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    Post  E.T. Thu May 27, 2010 7:21 pm

    Paa -Taal means an Abyss is Urdu.
    http://www.dictionaryurdu.com/Paa-taal.html
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    It's sort of that way ( i refer to recent GLP page where i've read some comments ) but not accurately that way . There's a lots in Biblical Genesis encoding the truth but there's also lots of lies.
    There's lots of truth sensed but not known , mixed up with lies . Truth tainted by lies can become anything from ideology to commodity. Have a good look at that no truth as such can become that.
    We breathe an oxygen is a description of phenomena we commonly understand and base our identity upon.

    Breathing oxygen can not then become an ideology . World of ideologies on the other hand, can't be quite based on facts.

    It needs legends, miracles and little mysteries to survive ..and it acts both ways of course, as the world of intuition connected to other beings, protects those mysteries untill its the time to solve them..
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    Post  E.T. Thu May 27, 2010 7:35 pm

    There's an old saying that 'truth has all names ' . But also the right sequence of the worlds is needed so that the sequence can represent truth ..it's like DNA coding i suppose..

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    Post  Mercuriel Thu May 27, 2010 7:59 pm

    Yeah We'd have to go back to Apocrypha (No worries - I and others are on It - Heheh) to understand It all...

    Heh heh

    Origins - If You did a Search on My Posts here and anywhere else I've tried to get the Message out - You'd see thats pretty much My whole Message - My Truth to share if You will as One of the many Truths We All came here and other places to finally Confront. Its really the only thing to do in order to go forward. We won't go forward in Ignorance. Only in learning Knowledge into Wisdom do We finally progress. It is so even in this Reality at a certain Level...

    Its the Manipulations - And It's need to see Itself and be seen through Us as Consciousness having a Body and not the Reverse so that We can finally be what We once were - Again...

    I digress though. I have read the .PDF and am contemplating what I can do to assist. Perhaps a Guerilla Documentary would be a good way to Out It ??? What do You think (?) or I should say now that I've read It - What are Your thoughts on how We should proceed with this ?

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    I've Ideas obviously but I would like to hear Yours, and The Watcher's too if Hes so inclined.

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    Post  E.T. Fri May 28, 2010 10:07 am

    Mercuriel wrote:Yeah We'd have to go back to Apocrypha (No worries - I and others are on It - Heheh) to understand It all...

    Heh heh

    Origins - If You did a Search on My Posts here and anywhere else I've tried to get the Message out - You'd see thats pretty much My whole Message - My Truth to share if You will as One of the many Truths We All came here and other places to finally Confront. Its really the only thing to do in order to go forward. We won't go forward in Ignorance. Only in learning Knowledge into Wisdom do We finally progress. It is so even in this Reality at a certain Level...

    Its the Manipulations - And It's need to see Itself and be seen through Us as Consciousness having a Body and not the Reverse so that We can finally be what We once were - Again...

    I digress though. I have read the .PDF and am contemplating what I can do to assist. Perhaps a Guerilla Documentary would be a good way to Out It ??? What do You think (?) or I should say now that I've read It - What are Your thoughts on how We should proceed with this ?

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    I've Ideas obviously but I would like to hear Yours, and The Watcher's too if Hes so inclined.

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    I would explain clearly where is the message left in the Book of Genesis and other scriptual resources, as far as their meaning follows and which parts were added to make us feel 'humanly better'. Some parts are obviously 'lacking'..
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    Many people are searching for truth but i doubt any scriptural analyzis as such can sort it out. Back to my 'younger days' , I've studied lots of esoterics from different spiritual traditions. When i looked back to it, after the ET encounter, i thought ..ok. that's so clear, it's there, but without seeing it in person i'd never guess this, it's not explicitely written anywhere ,
    no one did ever tell me and could not . With the deepest respect for all my teachers and their knowledge, wisdom and intuition, none of them could tell me this all. I came to know thousands of important things in my own eyes, in 4 hours and i will never forget it.
    I knew right after that night that it's my task to pass the data forwards ..my immediate thought was a panel of scientists and i still dwell on that .
    I'm not much of a preacher and this is not some kind of prophecy, i don't want to be a teacher now , even though i was a teacher before, gave lectures on eastern philosophies and meditation classes and sanskrit and all i was asked for,
    but i don't want to be 'teaching' this, as i also think that the audience is not ready .
    What can average crowd of people have from my description of our ET origins and all the details ? Very little , believe me , i've tried . I 've shared this with several independent individuals and my former meditation group here in Prague as well.
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    Another fact playing role in this equation is that I'm pretty isolated here from anyone who would be able to work with me on what to do or how to get the data in or out anywhere .
    So, working with people the way they expect you to work, on international platform, can be great, but i always do not fit in. It's different for life long researchers who are coming to share their experiences ..
    it's different in US where there's greater liberty of information ( and disinformation ) than anywhere else . It's different if you have group of people or partner who supports you and cares for what's going on with you than if you have none.
    I'm skipping over my thoughts sorry ..

    Barry knows about it a lot as we are working together in backgrounds, for quite few years now.

    From my solemn point of view, detailed debriefing and passing the data forwards to any science team who would be willing to incorporate them to their research ,
    is most important . That's exactly where you are on point Mercuriel and i know that many others too. Human status needs to be rectified from the scratch. It may seem to be a tiny difference on cellular level and no difference for readers , but alltogether ..
    the way how we 'came to existence' as humans starts very long chain of consequencies whose implications, right or wrong, can not be denied.

    I have much to say, but unless questioned directly, i might be feeling chaotic and uncertain how to connect to others so it does help the cause here .

    Documentary, allright, who would do it , you might be surprised with how many 'great people' out there fail to understand the text alone , mistaking it for something else . They're all a bit tired aren't they.
    Thank you for cheerful Spirits Mercuriel ,
    lets speak about it yet and find what to do ..

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    Post  Mercuriel Fri May 28, 2010 10:43 am

    I've already gained some Insights from the Information in the PDF and Your Story. Let Me detail them here if You'll allow Me to.

    1. The Ship used 4th Dimensional Energy (Energy from the Vacuum) to Torque Itself against 3D Reality (Using Gravity B to Torque against Gravity A) causing movement at Incredible rates of Speed while at the same time creating Its own Gravity/Reality Bubble to travel in. This is simply a result of using 4th Dimensional Zero Point Energy as a Power Source so as to be able to power the Engine/Craft with sufficient Power to accomplish It's task.

    2. The Ship of Animals was sent at that later Point - As taking the Members of the Original Crew back to the Originating Reality would have detroyed Them outright with the Frequency of the Originating Zone or Reality being too Energetic for such Dense Beings.

    Therefore - Those Trying to assist may have consulted Their Ancient Past or the Source for Ideas on how to bring the Crew back to the Representation They'd once Expressed. More on that as I think about It...

    3. The Navigators must have been in the first few Groups that were let out prematurely and this would be the reason why Ideas or Information on what had happened - And what "Help" was coming or had been sent for by the Ship - Became so general in understanding for the remaining Group.

    Once the Navigators had left the Ship and had become Dense - Their Information Stream was then lost to the Collective and could not be recalled through Telepathy by the remaining Group due to that.

    The above stated - A Guerilla Documentary implys that for almost no money at all - And with some Inconvenience to Us as the Producers/Creators of It in terms of time in geting it done - We could then seed the Information using the Earth's/Terra's crude Akashic records (The Internet as It's known now) to place It into the Mass Consciousness. All It needs is to be done and then the Mass Consciousness and the 100th Monkey Syndrome will accomplish the rest.

    Hmmm - Just thoughts though...

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    Post  E.T. Fri May 28, 2010 12:13 pm

    I will try to clarify each your points if you allow , Mercuriel. Forgive me if the terminology we both use might differ slightly but hope we are able to arrive at the same statement at last . In fact, there might be more information on the Ship and else squeezed in the original Gaya files where I tried to describe the events in my own words in detail . Just that due to number of facts I've tried to lay out in one piece , with plenty of them skipped over somehow, the resultant text is lenghty ( and some may find it confusing )
    It's like starting from the beginning and then trying to explain all of it anew , it's not really easy (for me ) to do all of it in written form and I think, that due to the sensitive nature of this information,
    some kind of serious and professional approach face to face would do just right with me . To name things correctly ..and record all that may be useful.

    Now, to the points you made ..
    1. The Ship indeed was capable of producing its own time-space field , alternate time-space field that was isolating the Ship and the crew from outer environment and its effects totally , no matter where it found itself , and as you 've noted ,
    it is what enabled the indecrible velocity and long space travel as well. It would literally cut through the physical space , similarly as if you pull curtains to both sides , cut is not the accurate term ok, pull away is better . I think it might be called 'hyperdimensional' travel in vague terms.
    I've not tried to describe the propulsion system and its nature anywhere so far, and it was not exactly 'zero point energy' system , or if you insist on calling it that way, it was many times more complicated.
    The ship was in fact 'charged forwards' and contained type of reactor , to liken to it to something , i'd say it used diffused particles accelerated to supra gravity component, like if you build a little controlled Star of your own.
    But it had also supportive propulsion system that was able to utilize free particles touching its surface during the long flights. So it has had many systems supporting each other, besides the navigation 'motherboard' that was fully automatized.
    2. The Ship with animals arrived here much later than we did and it was not ours .. not send from our home either. It belonged to someone who have collected the various species elsewhere in space as they do not originate on single planet .
    Each of them is home somewhere else, their ancestors i mean and originally, looked and behaved differently as well.
    The people who flew with this laboratory ship were not alive when it landed here .
    3. We did not have any Navigators as such, Mercuriel. As I've said, the navigation system was fully automatic, the Ship itself was euipped with AI responsible for all its operations , for the crew as well, it was virtually impossible from anyone to touch or alter these systems during the flight or simply till we came back home.
    The Ship has communicated to us what has happened so we were told , and we knew it's working on self-repair but that it might either take very long time or that we'll have to wait for help even. So i suppose also signal back home was sent immediately after landing here.
    You might be wrong on the assumption that those who left the Ship early carried more information and that it was destroyed. It was sort of the other way around. We all had the same access to information, as beings. Some had specialisations of various kinds and were tested and 'impregnated' for space travels . It's mostly this type of 'impregnation' that saved the likes like me from damage by local gravity and energy discharge from the ship.
    The Ship, in fact, is communicating to these days, on its own accord and in circumstances known fully to itself .

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    I think that we would also need someone with PR talent and experience who is not too shy and touched by the circumstances as I'm, who would understand the topic and would be able to contact some open minded science teams.

    That's my thoughts..
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    Post  Mercuriel Fri May 28, 2010 1:00 pm

    1. I agree that calling the Power Source of the Ship may have been crude in terming it Zero Point but it would obviously be a Quantum Power Source and that was more what I was trying to get across. I could only use Zero Point as a Term ATM as I don't have other Terms of Refernce to describe such a Complicated and Powerful Source of Propulsion for Hyperpace Travel.

    2. Roger that on the Mammals on the other Ship being from another Race and the Pilots (So to speak) of It being dead. That said - The reason why I went with that was that I was trying to figure out how this Event happened to You especially. Not the "why" - But the "how". In this I mean how was it figuratively accomplished. Did the Ship reconnect or call out to You (?) as You were at that time in Bodhgaya - In close proximity to the Craft - Or was it due to Members of the Original Race connecting with You and bringing up the Race Memories of that distant time 80 Million Years ago ?

    3. As quoted...

    Some had specialisations of various kinds and were tested and 'impregnated' for space travels.

    What I meant was that Individuals within the Collective of that Group who could have further Illuminated the Situation as They were "Impregnated" or Specialized with those Systems on that Craft - Could no longer do so or report on It when They stepped outside prematurely. This Event separated that Info from the Telepathic process and may have left an Information gap causing generalities to be understood rather than specifics. Again, just a thought...

    I'm excited about your idea of a documentary , that's certainly one step forwards...

    I think that we would also need someone with PR talent and experience who is not too shy and touched by the circumstances as I am - Who would also understand the topic and would be able to contact some open minded science teams.

    Has the Watcher or Yourself tried to Contact Dr. David Greer (The Disclosure Project) relative to this ?

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    Post  THE WATCHER Fri May 28, 2010 1:20 pm

    I passed the final pdf report to Dr Greer's team whom assured me he would receive it, I sincerely hope he did, but it might mean double checking via Disclosure Group AND CSETI
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    Post  E.T. Fri May 28, 2010 1:46 pm

    1. Guess I'd have to explain some backgrounds physics related to both time-spaces, one of our origins and what's known as this particular planetary -solar- galaxy ''earthly'' space-time to be able also to explain causality of their interaction,
    and how things 'worked' at our home and why they work here differently..

    2. Right, these are some of the most interesting questions for me as well. For example the adaptation of various species to earthly gravity and environment. More subtle and more complicate is the original living intelligence the more it suffers under the stress ( make it an axiom ? The Red Blue Button - Page 4 Icon_biggrin ),
    Animals are also more subtle in their original form and have beautiful and kind souls . They're never as aggressive as they're here , similar to humans .
    However they are not linked to us anyhow in the space genealogy , neither to each other in most cases. Now, your 'modern science' is based on different hypothesis and trying to confirm it its own way, it would need few alphabetal corrections though .

    How it has happened is another interesting question, my feeling is that i was guided to be there at that time, by the ETs. They have activated the ship and altered the space-time , so i found myself millions year back at the beginning, as if it was happening really once again.
    It's not exactly the same being as we are but they're close to us. I know about them..

    3. No, you are still not right there. Those who survived the accident without damage did not lose memory, connection or anything similar..
    It's those who were 'damaged' by the gravity, they've naturally suffered a lot and state of amnesia . That's where the long dream, long amnesia of mankind orginates ..
    There were two types of civilisations co-existing here since then, remind you .

    We've tried to contact Dr Greer but all where we've got were plenty of beautiful multicolored ladies in PR offices . I suspect he's busy with all his projects and no gurantee he's ever read the file, it might be right somewhere there in the stock with ET label. The Red Blue Button - Page 4 Icon_albino
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    Post  Mercuriel Fri May 28, 2010 3:47 pm

    No its OK - I understood the Causality of there versus here in the PDF.

    Relative to # 1. Zero point or Antigrav Devices DO Torque Themselves as a 4D Power Source against the 3D Reality or in more simple terms Gravity B Torques against Gravity A and produces movement.

    I was only trying to describe it as similar and yet not the same. I used Zero Point as an Example to detail that I can see the Torque being applied. That it is from a more complicated Technology and not necessarily Zero Point I get - All I was trying to let You know is that I understand the Principle of It's Torque and Self-Contained Reality.

    Relative to # 3.

    Its not the Ones Who survived WITHOUT Damage that I'm speaking of.

    I'm speaking of the Ones that WERE Damaged and that some of those Individuals may have been those "Impregnated" or Specialized in the Operation of the Craft and It's Inner Workings. This is in contrast to those that were "Impregnated" with other Information or Skills relative to the Trip and It's Objectives - Who weren't Damaged.

    I mean I see it as this so far. A certain Percentage of the Crew was Damaged - Yes ?

    So with that Damage - I thought It plausible that due to the Damage with some of the Crew - Some of those Damaged Individuals may have been "Impregnated" or Specialized in the Operation of the Craft and held that Knowledge. When They became Damaged - That Info was with Them and due to the rest of the Crew being woken later on after the Damage had already occurred - That Knowledge was simply not there anymore in the Form it had previously been.

    Otherwise - Then what ? Only the Unimpregnated or less Specialized were let out Prematurely and all of the Important Knowledge was retained in the Undamaged Crew ? If that is the case then It lends itself to a purpose or reason for the premature Awakening of others before They were ready or acclimated. That said - Again - I'm just wondering.

    To the Watcher ;

    Affirmative on already sending it to Dr. Greer. And as follow-up has produced no Contact or Information relative to It's Disclosure - I wonder if I offered to pay for the Research Hes needing Funding for - Whether that would get His Attention ?

    Huh ?

    What do You think ? We could even try the Russian Space Agency as well or perhaps the ESA (European Space Agency).

    Again - Just My Random thoughts ATM...


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    Post  mudra Fri May 28, 2010 3:54 pm

    Greetings ET I came across this man tonight and was guided to bring it you .

    George McMullen, is the author of One White Crow and an intuitive archaeologist and forensic remote viewer who performed archaeological remote viewing with many experts including Dr. Norman Emerson, Professor Emeritus of Anthropology, University of Toronto; Hugh Lynn Cayce, son of Edgar Cayce of the Cayce Foundation and ARE; and Stephen Schwartz, The Mobius Group.
    In criminology, George has accompanied Raymond W. Worring and Whiney Hibbard. He has been a research subject and has looked at intriguing mysteries including the Great Pyramid and Sphinx; the Knights Templar; the Crystal Skulls; Copper Mining in Minnesota; the Lost Colony and other subjects relating to the American Indians.

    George McMullen
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    From my earliest childhood I knew that I had abilities that were not common to most people. As a young child I could pick up an object and by just holding it I'd know who made the object, where the object came from and who had owned the object. I'd also know about the owners of the object; where and how they had lived, whether they were still alive or had died and the manner of their death. I could also foretell events, such as the illness or deaths of close friends and relatives. I could also "just know" certain things about people and often these were things that people didn't want others to know. I learned very early to keep my observations of objects and people to myself. While I was loved by my family and friends they didn't understand my abilities (nor did I fully understand them myself at the time). I was often punished for saying things I shouldn't have, teased for my wild imagination and sometimes feared for what seemed (especially to my religiously devout mother) to be an unholy ability to know things I shouldn't.

    Books available by George McMullen in Shirley's Library.

    I spent the first 45 years of my life keeping my intuitive abilities a secret from others, including my wife and children. In the mid-1960's my wife, Charlotte, joined an A.R.E. study group and as she began to read extensively on the work of Edgar Cayce and parapsychology research, I began to discuss with her my own intuitive abilities. At that same time, Charlotte had become good friends with a woman she met at the A.R.E. group, Ann Emerson. Charlotte shared with Ann our discussions about my intuitive abilities and Ann, in turn, told her husband, Dr. J. Norman Emerson, a prominent archaeologist and professor at the University of Toronto. In time, Norm and I were introduced to each other by our wives. Charlotte and Ann had become very close friends and Norm and I quickly became friends, too. Norm was interested in my intuitive abilities with respect to objects. As an archaeologist he had an interest in the complex relationships that people have with the material goods of their culture. He decided to set up a series of small tests with objects that he had unearthed at various archaeology sites in Ontario. He wanted to know what impressions I could get from these objects.

    On my part, I was interested in taking part in these tests. For my whole life I had hidden my abilities, partly for fear of ridicule. If this university professor could provide a means by which my abilities could be tested and some how measured, it meant that I could illustrate to others that my abilities were not the work of an over active imagination, or evidence of demonic influence, but rather a very real and scientifically proven mental ability.

    After testing me rigorously for many months with many objects and later on many archaeology sites, Norm became convinced that I had what he considered to be a psychic ability. I detested the word psychic at the time and I still do not like to be called "a psychic". When I hear the word "psychic" I think of someone who claims that they can solve your problems or put you in contact with a deceased relative - and all for the sum of $149.00 an hour! I have no doubt that many of these people can do as they claim and if the client is satisfied, it's all well and good. However, I decided long ago that this was not what I wanted to do with the ability I have.

    Norm was enthused with the potential practical applications of my abilities for the field of archaeology. Often archaeologists are given very little time to remove all the information they need from a site. Most archaeology is done as salvage work. I mean that the excavation is undertaken solely to clear a site before a new shopping mall is built over top of it or before the river valley is flooded for a new dam. There normally isn't much time for long term excavations or research and often only a small percentage of a total site is excavated before time and funding runs out.

    With my ability I can survey an area and see what existed there in times past and see what is there now beneath the ground. Often these sites have not been occupied for centuries. I can describe what the area looked like at a particular point in time. I can move through layers of time in the way an archaeologist moves through the layers of dirt with his trowel, each layer representing a different season or occupation. If I'm asked to I can pinpoint my observations to a specific date. When I am on a site for the first time I must orient myself and focus on the time it was in use and the people. When I first began working with Dr. Emerson it took me a few hours to accomplish this, but through practice I have learned to do this in a few minutes. I then tell what I see in my mind's eye. I can tell you the number of people who occupied the site, who they were and what they were doing. I describe the people and the clothes they were wearing. I can smell their fires and hear them speak I can even communicate with them if it is appropriate that I do so. While I'm observing that time period it's as if I'm in that time period. I'm aware of both the present and the past at the same time, I move between the two, back and forth, while I tell my observations.

    By moving back and forth between the present and the past I can tell an archaeologist where to dig in order to find signs of the occupation such as a dwelling, a fire pit or burial sites. Normally, the archaeologist marks the spot with a stake or draws the points on a map. Later, he will return to dig at the places I indicate. Norm would say that "the truth is in the digging" and, in his published papers, he claimed that I was accurate 80% of the time. That is, Emerson was able to find what I told him would be at a particular place 80% of the time. He jokingly estimated an archaeologist's ability to pick the right place to dig at 40 to 60% accuracy. He had personally excavated most of the sites that we worked on together and so I assume that he was in a position to know!

    I am always asked by archaeologists how I do what I do. How could I possibly know what I have just told them? Do I read their minds? What makes me feel confident enough to tell them what I do? I often ask myself these same questions. The only way I reassure myself is through the credibility that I have built up over a lifetime of doing this work. When I am wrong I am told.

    I know that I don't read minds. The people who have asked me to look at a site are usually seeking answers to specific questions they have. They do not have the knowledge they are looking for. So, if I relied on mind reading much of the time there would be nothing to read. I also don't get my information from reading books or other academic works. The archaeologists I work with are most knowledgeable in their field of study. I could hardly know more than them about their field of expertise. I have no formal training in archaeology.

    By and large professional archaeologists reject Norm Emerson's research on the use of intuitives in archaeology. In fact, in his lifetime he jeopardized a very successful academic career by publishing his work with me. It was because he held a tenured position at the University of Toronto and the fact that he was a respected archaeologist in Canada that he was able to continue working in his profession after he had made his use of intuitives in archaeology known. He continued with his research in spite of considerable opposition from his peers.

    Norm Emerson died in 1978 after a lengthy illness. Since his death, I have continued working with archaeologists not only in Canada, but throughout the USA, Australia, Egypt, Iran, Israel, Europe. Ecuador, Mexico and the Caribbean. I have an often uneasy relationship with the archaeologists I work with. While they are interested in the work done by Norm Emerson and are enthused at the prospect of digging at the places where I have indicated, they often take me to the sites on weekends or in evenings when students and fellow researchers have gone home for the day. They often request that I keep our visits confidential and they will in turn pretend that they've never heard of me if the subject of that Intuitive Archaeologist comes up. I can understand their reluctance to have it known that they have consulted me. After all, they have worked hard to get the education to become what they are. It must bother them when an uneducated person steps into their discipline and tells them with some accuracy what they wanted to know. Also, I believe that the word "psychic" conjures up the same image for the archaeologist as it does for me. The stereotypical image of a psychic in an academic endeavour is a source of discomfort for even the most liberal of academics.

    In closing, I believe that the use of intuitives in archaeology doesn't serve to replace traditional methods, but we can be used to make the job easier. I have never charged for my services when called upon to help. I do this out of respect for my friend, Dr. J. Norman Emerson. I have continued to carry on with this work and hope that other intuitives will see its value and look to intuitive archaeology as one way to use their ability.

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    Post  THE WATCHER Fri May 28, 2010 5:44 pm

    Mercuriel wrote:No its OK - I understood the Causality of there versus here in the PDF.

    Relative to # 1. Zero point or Antigrav Devices DO Torque Themselves as a 4D Power Source against the 3D Reality or in more simple terms Gravity B Torques against Gravity A and produces movement.

    I was only trying to describe it as similar and yet not the same. I used Zero Point as an Example to detail that I can see the Torque being applied. That it is from a more complicated Technology and not necessarily Zero Point I get - All I was trying to let You know is that I understand the Principle of It's Torque and Self-Contained Reality.

    Relative to # 3.

    Its not the Ones Who survived WITHOUT Damage that I'm speaking of.

    I'm speaking of the Ones that WERE Damaged and that some of those Individuals may have been those "Impregnated" or Specialized in the Operation of the Craft and It's Inner Workings. This is in contrast to those that were "Impregnated" with other Information or Skills relative to the Trip and It's Objectives - Who weren't Damaged.

    I mean I see it as this so far. A certain Percentage of the Crew was Damaged - Yes ?

    So with that Damage - I thought It plausible that due to the Damage with some of the Crew - Some of those Damaged Individuals may have been "Impregnated" or Specialized in the Operation of the Craft and held that Knowledge. When They became Damaged - That Info was with Them and due to the rest of the Crew being woken later on after the Damage had already occurred - That Knowledge was simply not there anymore in the Form it had previously been.

    Otherwise - Then what ? Only the Unimpregnated or less Specialized were let out Prematurely and all of the Important Knowledge was retained in the Undamaged Crew ? If that is the case then It lends itself to a purpose or reason for the premature Awakening of others before They were ready or acclimated. That said - Again - I'm just wondering.

    To the Watcher ;

    Affirmative on already sending it to Dr. Greer. And as follow-up has produced no Contact or Information relative to It's Disclosure - I wonder if I offered to pay for the Research Hes needing Funding for - Whether that would get His Attention ?

    Huh ?

    What do You think ? We could even try the Russian Space Agency as well or perhaps the ESA (European Space Agency).

    Again - Just My Random thoughts ATM...
    Perhaps if the team behind Dr Greer were asked to let us have a direct link with him to discuss the report. Also sending to ESA a good idea, maybe any similar agencies too
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    Post  Mercuriel Fri May 28, 2010 6:00 pm

    Affirm...

    That said - E.T. and Watcher - Do I have Your Permission(s) to do a Write-up or Foreword if You will for sending this Information to the Russians and the ESA ? No worries - I'll Submit this Foreword to both of You for Edits and Additions if any before Initiating Contact with these Agencies...

    I'll also write a Letter to Dr. Greer about this Issue as well as His Funding ( Heh heh ) - Again with a Submition to the both of You for Edits and Additions if any...

    Sound OK ?

    Huh ?

    Additionally - Any further thoughts about the Guerilla Video ?

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    Post  THE WATCHER Fri May 28, 2010 6:17 pm

    Sounds good to me, thankyou very much for your kind assistance. I was planning a video interview with ET since 2007 but alas time and circumstances prevented that
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    Post  E.T. Fri May 28, 2010 7:12 pm

    Thank you very much for your kindest help and assistance with this all . There are many possible places to where it could/should be sent , in my opinion, I suggest we share some more details with you Mercuriel, before proceeding forwards .

    I'd send it to NASA and elsewhere. It'd certainly need some good foreword and , find a contact person able to receive it with responsible attitude .
    Please wait for me till tomorrow or so, to make all points clear may take time anyway ...You don't have to send me to Russia if not necessary ..

    I've got some antibiotics for sore throat today and need to rest a bit. I've got these continuing sore throats since then too. It's not severe but it's just tiring ..
    Thanks to you Mudra and Mercuriel , please have a patience with me ..

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    Post  Mercuriel Fri May 28, 2010 7:28 pm

    You bet - Rest well My Sister - I will talk with You tomorrow then...

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    Post  Carol Sat May 29, 2010 7:46 am

    Aloha ET. I'm sorry about the sore throat. We use a teaspoon of fresh lemon juice in hot water with a bit of cayanne pepper to clear that up. Cayanne pepper also clears up inflamation. Vitamin D3 helps the immune system and needs to be taken daily.

    Next, I helped Paola Harris edit her books and she is a personal friend of mine and of Dr. Greer. She might also be interested and be of help. I also found a publisher (Authorhouse) where one can self-publish their book and they automatically list it with Amazon.com where it is for sale to the public over the internet.

    This information could easily be made into a book and put out to the public on a broad scale. Getting published is around $800 and you would have complete control over the content of the book.

    I want to thank both you and Barry for all you are sharing. Also, Barry, with all the info you have much of that could easily be edited and published the same way as well. It's a nice way of getting this info out to the public without censorship.


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    Post  E.T. Sat May 29, 2010 1:21 pm

    Mercuriel wrote:No its OK - I understood the Causality of there versus here in the PDF.

    Relative to # 1. Zero point or Antigrav Devices DO Torque Themselves as a 4D Power Source against the 3D Reality or in more simple terms Gravity B Torques against Gravity A and produces movement.

    I was only trying to describe it as similar and yet not the same. I used Zero Point as an Example to detail that I can see the Torque being applied. That it is from a more complicated Technology and not necessarily Zero Point I get - All I was trying to let You know is that I understand the Principle of It's Torque and Self-Contained Reality.

    Relative to # 3.

    Its not the Ones Who survived WITHOUT Damage that I'm speaking of.

    I'm speaking of the Ones that WERE Damaged and that some of those Individuals may have been those "Impregnated" or Specialized in the Operation of the Craft and It's Inner Workings. This is in contrast to those that were "Impregnated" with other Information or Skills relative to the Trip and It's Objectives - Who weren't Damaged.

    I mean I see it as this so far. A certain Percentage of the Crew was Damaged - Yes ?

    So with that Damage - I thought It plausible that due to the Damage with some of the Crew - Some of those Damaged Individuals may have been "Impregnated" or Specialized in the Operation of the Craft and held that Knowledge. When They became Damaged - That Info was with Them and due to the rest of the Crew being woken later on after the Damage had already occurred - That Knowledge was simply not there anymore in the Form it had previously been.

    Otherwise - Then what ? Only the Unimpregnated or less Specialized were let out Prematurely and all of the Important Knowledge was retained in the Undamaged Crew ? If that is the case then It lends itself to a purpose or reason for the premature Awakening of others before They were ready or acclimated. That said - Again - I'm just wondering.


    To you point 1 , Mercuriel, microgravity experiments produce often slightly different array of effects than what i've vaguely coined supra-gravity systems.
    It's my humble guess that local zero-point energy experiments are still in (cosmic ) diapers. However I can understand , hopefully, what you are trying to get to me .
    Space-times are sort of bubbles naturally appearing around objects in quantum space. Gravity bends space-time.
    The way how our systems worked and how they were able to move so fast and safe through space in not easy to explain strictly in terms of currently known physics. Still, there is knowledge that can be retrieved from what was available to us .
    I may get back to this point later ..
    Point 2 . I think, i'd be only repeating what was said clearly to the report ...
    We were about 10 000 beings on the Ship . I've tried to describe qualities of those beings in the text as well. We were all immortal beings , endowed with boundless knowledge, memories and experience ..we all were of the same importance to our civilisation..
    we all were valuable and dear to each other , we looked quite the same and we shared the same treasure of infinite knowledge.
    It'd be difficult to state exactly how many years old we were compared to earthly time. Our physical time, as i've tried to convey , was much slower than here as well. As far as i can recall, 4 hours of our original time equalled to 80 years of earthly time at the time of landing.
    You can continue the count from there ..
    Understand that what has happened to us was a disaster that has never ever happened to our civilisation before . It was very emotional for all of us, equally.
    There was no one more or less than someone else. We were all feeling damaged for what has happened to our kins. It was not problem of losing knowledge. Even if one of us remained, he'd still be able to tell all.
    Those who were physically damged ( that's of course the important difference in a course of speech ) , they later evolved to human beings. It's a very sensitive point I know .
    I thought I've described the sequence of what has happened within the report ..
    Few more things to do then will get back to it ..

    Thank you for Patience
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    Post  THE WATCHER Sat May 29, 2010 2:37 pm

    Carol wrote:Aloha ET. I'm sorry about the sore throat. We use a teaspoon of fresh lemon juice in hot water with a bit of cayanne pepper to clear that up. Cayanne pepper also clears up inflamation. Vitamin D3 helps the immune system and needs to be taken daily.

    Next, I helped Paola Harris edit her books and she is a personal friend of mine and of Dr. Greer. She might also be interested and be of help. I also found a publisher (Authorhouse) where one can self-publish their book and they automatically list it with Amazon.com where it is for sale to the public over the internet.

    This information could easily be made into a book and put out to the public on a broad scale. Getting published is around $800 and you would have complete control over the content of the book.

    I want to thank both you and Barry for all you are sharing. Also, Barry, with all the info you have much of that could easily be edited and published the same way as well. It's a nice way of getting this info out to the public without censorship.

    Hi Carol, not sure I want to go along the route of vanity or self publishing my history, or life's work, many have asked me over the years to write a book or three but so far I have little or no time nor incentive to do so.
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    Post  Mercuriel Sat May 29, 2010 3:57 pm

    E.T. wrote:Understand that what has happened to us was a disaster that has never ever happened to our civilisation before. It was very emotional for all of us, equally. There was no one more or less than someone else. We were all feeling damaged for what has happened to our kins. It was not problem of losing knowledge. Even if one of us remained, he'd still be able to tell all.

    OK - I now understand You'e saying that All the Knowledge of the Incident would be in All of You - Even if only One was left.

    Now I will let You know why I wanted to explore this so fully and exhaustively. When I was reading the PDF - I saw the Event as You'd described It - The Craft moving on It's way - Humming - Then the Diversion and the Emergency Landing of the Craft to recalibrate and or repair Itself.

    From Your description of that part of the Event - I kept waiting in the PDF for You to get into more specifics as to why the Craft would land like It had. I already knew from reading the PDF that the Craft had found Itself to be "malfunctioning" to some extent, and had then decided to Land on Earth as a way station so as to be able to do those Diagnostics and repair Itself.

    With that stated in the PDF - I then thought that You and the rest of the Crew would have remained in Stasis. I thought this because from reading the PDF - The "Malfunction" seemed to only be a matter of being "off" abit on It's Course towards Destination and nothing else that You'd described as an Issue. That is until the Premature opening of the Ship and some of It's Crew Cabins happened.

    That You and the rest of the Crew would have only been woken up when the Craft had already relaunched - Traveled to Destination and awoken on Arrival at the Target - Seems to be the way the Craft and Event should have behaved with the facts as stated by the PDF.

    As there was no further Information that I could gleam from the PDF as to EXACTLY WHY the Craft had done what It had done - It left Me thinking that those with that Knowledge had not made it and were part of those that had been "damaged".

    As it seemed in the PDF that the Crew had been trapped here because of the Craft "Malfunction" - Someone in the Crew had to have had intimate or detailed knowledge as to why this had occurred. After reading the PDF and seeing it absent of that detailed Info - It made Me curious so thats why I asked if those Who would have had that detailed Knowledge were in the part of the Crew that had been "damaged" or "densified" if You will.

    As You didn't provide that Information in the PDF - I thought others of the Crew had known but that It could not be retrieved or was not retreived as They'd been "damaged".

    That said - As You being One of Them - And knowing this due to All of the Knowledge of the Incident being in All of You, even if only One was left - Can You tell Us specifically why the Craft did what It did then ? What was the Malfunction and why couldn't it be repaired ? Why did the Craft let some out prematurely and others not ?

    Please understand - We need to figue out those Answers as They'll be asked by serious Investigators and note - The Science, Archaeology, Exobiology and AstroPhysics Teams that would handle such Information if given It - Would ask these questions and many more. We need to have answers for these "Issues" if it is to be treated seriously by Them...

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    Post  E.T. Sat May 29, 2010 7:34 pm

    Thank you for explaining me the course of your thoughts Mercuriel and what are you asking about . It's a good question. We just did not have time to go to all the details within the report, maybe that few more are covered in the orginal Gaya files i typed , but not all and questions and respective answers can turn endless,
    depends how deep you want me to go .

    The sequence is about as follows .. I enjoy you are sharing the mind space with me and can 'see' to the time of landing . I've had few different individuals talking to me who were claiming the same.
    I take it's time of 'awakening'.

    The whole problem resides with the central intelligence unit of the Mothership, the 'motherboard' . It's kind of computer in human terms of understanding, AI. It was responsible for all operations of the Ship including navigation systems , all operational functions , propulsion systems , major Information database etc.
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    It was very motherly to us , the Mothership intelligence , supplying us with information and care as much as it could. Nonetheless as i was questioned several times about it, it had no 'organic components '. We did not consider it 'living' in simple terms.
    It was essentially like a huge chip with diffused layers , visibly forming colorful patterns, as well. Not that huge, it was a size of a plate or similar. I'm not in mood of speaking about it all here .

    The central computer simply, detected ''some'' mistake in itself during the flight. It could be even as small mistake as if you mistype a letter now. It's essentially crashed on over perfection. It was not supposed to do any mistakes whatsoever .
    So on that account , since it's detected tiny little mistake, it decided it needs to repair itself. Because that tiny little mistake could change the whole course of the ship in several degrees. It does not quite explain why did the system regard the mistake as essentiel.
    But it was kind of like mistake in programming. Not hardware mistake.

    Then, it has decided to take rest on the nearest habbitable planet to repair itself and let us out. It would not be anything strange, as we would usually visit places on long travels and have a stop here and there .

    But, despite the Earth being labeled 'a habitable planet' , and it should have shown all its physical details forwards to our Ship , we've probably underestimated local gravity field proving exceptionally strong . Either or it had a way to conceal itself to us.

    So, at the moment we proceeded to descend to here some of the Ships back up mechanisms were blocked and we've landed in half fall. It further on demaged some of the systems and produced extra energy emissions as well.
    So then the Ship could not lift itself back without repair and it decided to wait for help .
    Then again, we as a beings could basically stay inside and wait for when help comes, the planet was considered not dangerous to us so the door opened , for everyone to go out ..
    we generally liked going out..
    But i can recall we thought we might be back home already , sort of like if you wake up from sleep and don't know where you are ..

    Never mind. So all went out . What's happened to them, i thought it was explained to detail in the report ?


    I don't mind answering questions about it, and I'm happy to share , provided I'm asked on serious grounds . Trying to answer to the best of my abilities and recall.
    If you are not sure with something please don't hesitate to ask . It can't be quite your mistake , i can't type as quickly as i speak or think even.
    I will be back to the rest of it soon...

    As for our previous discussion Mercuriel, with huge thanks for your abilities to help, I'd suggest as many considerations possible vis respective places unless you know exactly what are we doing with them.

    It 's much work ..

    A documentary is another exciting idea but i really don't know how do you think we'd do this .

    Thank you for your thoughts Mercuriel,
    hope the day is being kind to you ..

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    Post  E.T. Sat May 29, 2010 8:03 pm

    Carol wrote:Aloha ET. I'm sorry about the sore throat. We use a teaspoon of fresh lemon juice in hot water with a bit of cayanne pepper to clear that up. Cayanne pepper also clears up inflamation. Vitamin D3 helps the immune system and needs to be taken daily.

    Next, I helped Paola Harris edit her books and she is a personal friend of mine and of Dr. Greer. She might also be interested and be of help. I also found a publisher (Authorhouse) where one can self-publish their book and they automatically list it with Amazon.com where it is for sale to the public over the internet.

    This information could easily be made into a book and put out to the public on a broad scale. Getting published is around $800 and you would have complete control over the content of the book.

    I want to thank both you and Barry for all you are sharing. Also, Barry, with all the info you have much of that could easily be edited and published the same way as well. It's a nice way of getting this info out to the public without censorship.

    Aloha Carol . I hope you're keeping better than myself The Red Blue Button - Page 4 Icon_biggrin I'm generally fine with orange juice and lemons and have a blend of tea spice from India good for throat too but this one is being more like general inflammation, it's hard to describe.
    I sincerely hope that i don't have another ET bug.
    Did you have time to read the report yet ? I'm not really decided about going the road of publicity either, same as Barry sais. With that excuse ..ok again The Red Blue Button - Page 4 Icon_biggrin
    So, we'd need actually rather a science team who would be able and happy to examine the data in detail . Unfortunatelly there where I live they're not too friendly to the topic, it's nothing to do with me as such, they're all nice here to me but there's no knowledge about the subject among professionals , i asked quite few people about it .
    There was information blockade here for some 30 or 40 years and these people are just recovering spiritually mainly, very slowly ..i hope the youngsters will repair it all..the old generation , lots of them, means mediocre folks, are bull heads who only enjoy their bellies fed and were taught not to think much .
    You can't ask these people for anything ..
    And young ones are still in craddle, metaphorically..

    Never mind, there is space research in the world as far as i know and there are departments able to handle such materials etc. Barry has some contacts as others do but they do not always work straight that way as one would imagine.

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    Post  E.T. Sat May 29, 2010 8:15 pm

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    Thank you for your message Mudra. Interesting man, interesting message.

    What's generally understood as 'inuition' or 'psychic abilities' is just another part of your extended logical intelligence . Unfortunatelly, not all parts of our intelligence seem to be always joined together.

    That's how we have 'intuitions'. They are like islands of the vast super-logical net in us that does not work at all times, all places evenly . They're not more mysterious than we are to ourselves ..

    What a pity that some who consider themselves 'clever' and academics spend their lives using very little portion of their actual abilities. Guess it's also past now, next generations will do better ..


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    Post  Jenetta Sat May 29, 2010 10:11 pm

    the way how we 'came to existence' as humans starts very long chain of consequencies whose implications, right or wrong, can not be denied.

    Hi ET,
    I was wondering if you've heard of the Mel Fabregas show? The website is http://www.veritasshow.com
    He is an excellent commentator and might be willing to host you as a guest to get your message out...
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    Post  E.T. Sun May 30, 2010 10:42 am

    Jenetta wrote:the way how we 'came to existence' as humans starts very long chain of consequencies whose implications, right or wrong, can not be denied.

    Hi ET,
    I was wondering if you've heard of the Mel Fabregas show? The website is http://www.veritasshow.com
    He is an excellent commentator and might be willing to host you as a guest to get your message out...
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    Hello Jenetta, we know of Veritas show as Barry King was interviewed there recently as well. We have actually contacted Mel last summer after Barry received intel that we should release the data.
    It was a trap and I did not quite agree but to calm our conscience, Mel was sequestered for the release as we both shared high opinion on his style of work .

    The situation was not ready, Mel was given the old Gaya files to read and he did not quite understand nature of the message. He was extremely busy with getting other 'well known' whistleblowers for the show and bit disconcerted about interview with Sanni Ceto ( for whom he's not received enough applaus from listeners ). It was time of Andrew Bassiago and High Ciff ( Cliff High ).
    Mel did not understand what is it all about, yet, we spoke on phone couple of times. He was trying to get Barry for the show, and I'm not sure he ever understood what my role is, he was full of ideas from everyone and mixing them together as we spoke.
    When we spoke last, i was stressed ( as i actually needed to speak to someone rational ) while Mel was busy and kept repeating : ''and what do you really want to tell me ..''
    Few days later he told me that 'the problem is that i don't have enough accent for his show'' The Red Blue Button - Page 4 Icon_albino I suspect that he felt some kind of problem with me and did not have time to go too deep to understand enough. There was an intel problem in backgrounds.
    It certainly had nothing to do with my English or accent .


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