My ET experiences

We Are You wrote:

Thanks both your flags are nice.

I have not forgotten you and have been thinking how to best respond for a number of hours having written several things but not yet posted.

Sanicle wrote:

Lionhawk wrote:Shortly after that, in the beginning of March 2010, I left the house to retrieve some pictures I had in my camper at a storage facility. As I was approaching the camper door, about 15' away, I could feel like I was being hit by something but could not see it. I made it to the door and ended up collapsing on the ground. All I could do was breath. I had no strength whatsoever to get up. So I laid there focusing on breathing. I did a scan on myself while on the ground. Something had hit my legs at an angle, hitting my right leg first and then the left leg. The angle of approach was higher on the right leg and thus lower on the left leg. I could feel the energy hitting me and then feeding back up my legs. My heart was racing and my breathing became very heavy, but I knew my heart was okay. I laid there on the rocky ground for a good 45 minutes. I also didn't want to get noticed from anyone in the compound, so I finally managed to get into my camper and I barely got to the bed to lay down. I must have been there for a good 3 hours trying to recharge. I slowly made my way home. I was then sick for like two weeks, with respiratory issues. We did find out the day I was hit that it was from an alien source. From the Alpha Draconis sector. Our contacts said it was a transverse beam weapon. Everyone knew when it happened too. It was unexpected. Since then, the condition of my legs are getting worse. I have been informed that it can be repaired but not on the Planet. I have severe pain 24/7 and it has an effect as to draining my energy. Like a nagging back pain. Not to mention the charlie horses and the cramping with the power of 20. So it sounds like we all have our alien pains in a variety of forms.

I'm so very sorry to hear about the pain you're in Lionhawk. We keep reading how the 'good guy' ETs take people off-planet to do healing work and it sounds like they are long overdue to do this for you too. Hopefully you'll get some relief, one way or another, very soon.

Prayers for you and anyone else who may be reading this and suffering pain of any sort thanks to these idiotic, juvenile, negative entities.

Thank-you Sanicle. I can feel your compassion. Also you reaching out to join with this soul family. (now I'm starting to sound like Mudra Where is she?) It's all good!

Speaking of compassion, I would like to speak of one, who because of what Neteru started here as far as this thread and to what has been brought out so far, there is someone here who upon reading the testimony of my latest attack, took the time to try and address the condition of my legs, in a real way.

It turns out that because of my condition, I have to take a nap to recharge on most days. On the last nap I took, I felt what seemed to be like a finger touch the outside right ankle bone. At first I thought it was our cat, Sasha, as she takes a nap with me on most occasions. But it wasn't. Our property is also shielded and there has only been one person who has gotten through that shield. Simply because you have to have the right stuff to get through it. And that was Mercuriel and he did that inadvertently. Well, I have to add to that list now and say "WELL DONE Malletsky"! And a huge hug and thank-you! For your healing work. I never asked him for this.

I told Brook about what I had felt. I told her that I thought someone was trying to do some healing work on my legs. But there is a major problem with that condition. It's like the meshing between the physical components and the spiritual body components have been separated. It is the reason why, the Doctors will surely end up treating the symptoms and not fixing the problem. Also as to why it will have be done off world. We were also informed of this. The reason being is that it is more complex than what I have revealed so far. Complications due to another attack during the time of Atlantis where a nuclear device was detonated, which sank Atlantis, and really screwed up the soul body because I was at ground zero when the detonation occurred. I had to be patched back up and the soul data that was lost was reprogrammed as the best they could. But it was not done in a complete fashion because of timing. In other words, it would have taken to long to repair properly and would have effected the timeline my soul was on. In most cases, there is another facility to where souls are taken and repaired by nuclear mishaps. This did not happen in my case. So other codes were put in place so that my soul body would be functional. This is done with dimensional pixels. That is the best way I can describe it. So we were told that it can be repaired but not on the Planet.

So thank-you Sanicle and Malletsky for your compassion. and

Just scan the writtings and post, please, if you want.

"Dearest Carol

First of all, thanks to the people who create this place, it seems that this is the only one where ordinary péople can have paralel conversations and Conversations without interuptions. So, both your flags are lovely, one can only imagine how Lovely they are. As we know, people may need a minimum distance to be able to see true reality with both eyes, both feet on the raw ground, so let´s create a fair tale, let´s say WH meets KC and they really flirt with each other, they simply can´t avoid feeling each other, love and Love, let´s use your own word to avoid further misunderstandings, ok? So, let´s say they are the best half for each other, but what happens when at least one of them is already married, or at least one of them does not want to talk to Christ every moment or let´s say that at least one of them has no faith on "best half conversation and Conversation", Creator let´s us choose either best half or ethernal pain as long as it takes to at least one of them compreend Creator best idea, so, what can we do about this Fire Tale?"


I've been thinking how to best respond to these questions and spent several hours going over what appeared to be a heartfelt question. Initially, the flags were to represent not taking sides - hence Switzerland first. Yet Hawaii's flag looks much like the Union Jack as King Kamehameha was quite taken with England and would have preferred to be one of their colonies except being sovereign was more important. Where do loyalties lie? With flag and country? Flag and family? With the heart?

Seeing into the dilemma is not difficult. How to proceed getting to know members is not difficult as we often share interests, insights and sometimes things deeply personal on the forum with one another as trust builds and non-judgment (Switzerland) prevails. I enjoy when members share what's going on with them as this allows a window into the heart of the person and allows one to feel more connected to that individual and to humanity as a whole. And as my life is pretty much an open book sharing openly makes for easier communication when important issues surface.

What is friendship unless someone wishes for it to be more?

When my husband and I first met each of us was involved with someone else. And we both knew the person we were with was not who we wished to be with as a life partner. These were transitional relationships. Each of us had been in marriages where our partner cheated, so each of us had experienced heart-ache from living through something like that. When we first met - the timing was not right and the universe intervened moving us in different directions to complete relationship lessons to be learned before we could truly appreciate the gift that each had to offer. Faithfulness.

Since we are both attractive people, we knew from time to time others would show interest in us individually and also were aware that sometimes feelings arise where we would be attracted to someone else. We made an agreement that should this occur we would share our feelings with the other and not act on them. It was also our desire, before we came together the second time, to have a life partner that would be someone we could grow old with. We were each seeking a 7-chakra resonance. This meant that we wanted to be with someone we were compatible with on all 7 levels - hence, a twin flame.

I have experienced over the years that it is easy to fall in love with someone, or have someone fall in love with me. Falling in love is when the heart energy resonates and one experiences acceptance. Yet falling in love is a feeling, a sensation that is quite wonderful, yet not always what holds a relationship together for the long haul.

I too have been single and lonely. I too longed for someone I could share myself with. I too had numerous failed relationships and wondered what it was that I was doing that drew me into these situations. Upon my second divorce I went into therapy and took time to grieve for what was, what could have been and what was lost. You see - I had also discovered I had lost myself along the way in my attempts to accommodate others.

What I realized about myself is that in reclaiming who I was- it was important to identify what I stood for and not surrender my integrity to please someone else. And at the heart of all of this it was essential that I was also spiritually compatible with my partner. Given my eclectic spiritual history this is key because without being spiritually compatible, everything else can fall apart.

By the time I was ready to start looking for a life partner I sat down and wrote out a list. I listed all of the men who had been in my life. Father, uncles, cousins, brothers, friends... all of them. Then I made two columns. One listing all of the positive traits I liked and one listing all of the negative traits I didn't like. At the top of my list - what surfaced as most important to me was the quality of kindness.

It is somewhat ironic how this is the primary quality of my husband that everyone comments on. Being such a kind man makes it easy to fall in love with him over, and over, and over again.

So I've come to the conclusions that when someone is really ready for a long-term commitment some inner work may be needed. One needs to know oneself first to know if they would be compatible with someone else.

The 'getting to know you' phase is important. Getting to know oneself even more so. Self-discovery can be both exciting and painful. This brings us to Creator let´s us choose either best half or ethernal pain as long as it takes to at least one of them compreend Creator best idea, so, what can we do about this Fire Tale?

What does this mean to you personally? Did the information on the links you share make your life better? Are you happier with this knowledge? What type of spiritual path is this?

When I first studied yoga my teacher would speak of the different limbs or paths. I knew instinctively that the path of the heart, Bhakti yoga, the worship of the divine - The Sanskrit noun bhakti is derived from the verb root bhaj, whose meanings include "to share in", "to belong to", and "to worship".[11] It also means "being a part of" and "that which belongs to or is contained in anything else." was something that appealed to me as a personal spiritual path. So when you share your links and I did view them along with some of the youtube videos what struck me was how different this is from what fits for me on my individual path.

i am curious as to what it is about what is in your links that is appealing to you. Is it that it gives words or an understanding that is comforting? Is it intellectually appealing? Or are you seeking someone who is in alignment with these teachings so as to share your thoughts on this so as to experience companionship on the journey?

Or is it that you are seeking intellectual companionship with others who are like-minded?

But again, what does it mean to be like-minded? Or perhaps it is where we just resonate at a similar frequency, yet each with our own unique differences.

What makes Mists special?

For me personally, it is here where I can just be myself. No pretense. No facades. Just an ordinary human mucking about pursuing various interests and sharing discoveries with anyone whose interested. And I get pleasure sharing what I happen upon. So there you have the long and short of some thoughts that you triggered by your post.

I do apologize my identifying you as a flirt. Perhaps it would have been best not to mention it. I had noticed you being playful and was curious. Please forgive me.

And because this is an ET thread I recalled you sharing about viewing a craft and wondered if there was more to it then just a sighting.

I am compelled to ask everybody :
what will we all support or choose?

Will we chose to roll on with the old paradigm which is identifying with old patterns of being a body with soul.

Or we will accept that grow is a natural expression of God hence everything grows and changes in all directions.

If we choose to be stuck in "body" patterns where will that lead us?
If we choose to acknowledge supreme reality of soul ,where will that lead us?

Friends ,brothers and sisters I can tell you my choice (which is obvious). I chose to grow with God.
I recognize the body as divine vessel of God expression but I first and foremost acknowledge soul as part of God hence co creator.

As co creator and child of God and future God itself I chose to not be limited by any perception ( since only personal perceptions can limit) and choose Love.

On a side note stop for a minute and connect all the dots about ET`s.
Some are wanting our DNA to reach or create a short cut to God conscience and existence.
Others are giving advices how to be enlightened.
Third are mixing all the above.
Fourth are leading us by unseen means towards our true nature.

etc...

By connecting the dots you will see that whatever happens ,it`s about us . Always about us .
Something big is there ,otherwise no one would care about this piece of Universe at all...

That big secret are we.
Not Extra Terrestrials ,God bless them.

We are also ET`s since our souls are not from Earth. Earth is created because of us not we because of her and she knows and deeply honors this fact by giving us our bodies from her elements and nurturing us like good aunt or sister or mother.

Awake the soul within and reach to the potential you have to be.
Simple words but almighty ones! Potential to be .

Everlasting potential unimaginable potential in us - to be.
And who can BE?

I am who I am and I will become who I will become, I will be who I will be.
I am.

That`s the Creator. We are his children and I can not over emphasize that enough.
We are that I am . We are its children . Souls that are capable of all.

No ET tech can replace that for we are THE power when aligned with Creator.
It`s not like you can do this or that , it`s like you can become that! Or this.
You can be a thunder or lightening just to feel it.

You can .You can do all when one with Creator. Because you are that person who is I am.
Christ had come to remind us of who we are.
Bless his soul...

Blessings in abundance to everybody!
No excuses!

Dearest Carol and friends

Thanks for sharing your life for the sake of the best possible outcome.
We best answer your question about the links: The tools that are explained
on those links help us to overcome some problems that are exposed here, so
it seems a great idea to share this piece of information that once (and now) helped
with people who may also benefit from them, as far as they can feel the truth on them,
it does not matter who wrote them the first time or the last time because they are universal knowledge
made available for us from Creator. The only difference on these links is that, on everyday life, including
here on MoA, information and misinformation are mixed, and we take a huge effort to separate what is true fact and direct knowledge (not second hand coral repetition) from what is misinformation or just guessing, sometimes useful whenever intuition-based or heart-based or love-based. After 14 years reading those books the only misinformation that we could find was from people who try to explain them and also errors recognized by the authors on the last published books whenever they found out they were wrong or not perfects, or because people misunderstood them. Before learning about this knowledge we may have random intuition and the consequences as surprise (good ones and not so good ones), after reading these books we may avoid mistakes, we may understand dreams and use intuition on the best way, and we may have less difficulties to understand the meaning when we dream about other people, and MoA help to understand them based on the facts presented here and also based on other people life experience and intuitions and talks like this, sometimes private messages. It is like an everyday update and transformation from ideas to facts, good ones and the best ones.

Brook wrote:

Carol wrote:

We Are You wrote:Dearest Carol,

We can always eXchange private letters.

Are you aware that you have a reputation here as a flirt?

As much as I enjoy getting to know people exchanging private letters with you would likely hurt my husband's feelings. Given that it has taken a good 30 years for him to learn how to spoil me, I like to keep him happy.

However a nice open exchange here on the forum where you share your thoughts and feelings with others would be appreciated.

I'm curious what it is about the links you post that you find so appealing.

And I'm also curious as to your own ET contact experiences.

If I may......over a year ago I did some work on the missing children of ritual sexual satanic child abuse......in that I ran into Samuel Weor....who leads a gnostic cult. so In the words of someone else...and this may enlighten you a bit on the "flirting" status.....as Sexual white magic is a huge part of Samuel's teachings .....I leave you this....

This is from one of of the Aun Weor's websites. A Lecture by Victor Manuel Gomez Rodriguez (aka Samael Aun Weor) Titled "WHO IS SAMAEL AUN WEOR?" :



Many think that Samael Aun Weor is just a pseudonym. Therefore it is now very important to transcribe what the Venerable Master Samael said about himself. The following text is a transcript of a lecture that was dictated by the Master in the Civic Auditorium of the State of Guadalajara, in the year 1975.


"Many people believe that Samael is just a pseudonym. No! Indeed, I am Samael! By yourselves, you have read that in Kabbalah that Samael is classified as the angel regent of Mars. In the Bible, Samael is classified as a demon. It does not matter! The fact is that I am Samael! ......"


".... Samael Aun Weor is my true name as a Boddhisattwa. Samael is the name of my Monad! I am perfectly cognizant of the dawn of life in this Solar System! I saw the dawning of Creation! I am here with this humanity, from the very first moment, since the heart of this solar system started to palpitate after the long Cosmic Night. I came here (to this planet) because my Internal God, my Father who is within me, sent me! My only purpose is toserve and help this humanity! This is why I am serving my fellowmen. This is why I am working for the sake of this humanity! ..."



WHY SAMAEL AUM WEOR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REAL GNOSTICISM?



When a person called Victor Gomez changes his name to Samael Aum Weor because he claims that he is in touch with an entity which has that name and creates a Cult in which people is forced to accept the words of this "entity" as a sacred doctrine... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


When a person creates a Cult and forces his followers not to ever release sperm during sex and there are hundreds of testimonials of people who claim that after having joined the Cult they become Celibate because they were told that celibacy was better than releasing sperm... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


When people are coerced to donate their own houses to a Cult in order to have a better knowledge of God and demonstrate that way that they are not attached to the material world... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


When you find a stupid guru that says some stupid things like "the first master was Buddha, then Krishna, then Christ... and then I arrived, and I am like those other guys, so praise me"... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


When people follow a "Master" (and every "Master" needs servants or slaves in order to be a "Master", right?)... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


When a person like Samael Aum Weor claims that he has channeled ancient rituals which are practiced in his order and those rituals are full of literal quotes which come from a cheap Spanish translation of Wallis Budge's English translation of the Egyptian "Book of the Dead", a few rituals written by Krum-Heller and even a few quotes from Aleister Crowley's "Book of the Law" (who would probably have felt amused to know that a person that promotes a VERY DISTORDED and CHEAP version of Tantra is quoting his Book of the Law)... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


When an organization is known as "Gnosis" and yet it promotes that his students MUST have visions that match the "revelations" that a loon like Samael Aum Weor claimed to have... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


When the outcome of an organization is that several of its students end up getting absolutely alienated from society, in several cases living in mental hospitals, unable to have any social life beyond the organization... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


When an organization asks his students to promote it by leaving brief posts in forums that mention its founder or links to the webpage of the Cult... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


When Religious Fanatism is the main teaching of a Group... and when the stupid "revelations" of a stupid man like Samael Aum Weor become the core of a group... that's NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL.


Samael Aum Weor was NOT GNOSTIC AT ALL... and that the organization he has founded and its branches are not GNOSTIC, but a dangerous brainwashing cult. BE CAREFUL ABOUT IT!

From another site:

[www.fortunecity.com]#

"Gnostics


The Gnostics movement was founded by Samael Aun Veor, who claimed to be the "Avatar of the Age of Aquarius" and was an admirer of Lucifer, whom he called "Good Demon Christ", "Gnostic Sun" etc.


According to former senior members, Gnostics teach "witchcraft: meditation, astral projections, telepathy exercises, awakening of inner powers..." Among their basic methods is 'sexual alchemy', i.e. sex without orgasm, which aims in spiritual development! According to Veor, Christ and His... wife, practiced sexual alchemy, so Christ became a... superhuman. By these methods, Veor (who claimed to be an incarnated fallen angel), would form a New Race, whom he would lead to a secret place, to save it from destruction...


After the menopause of his wife, Litelante, Veor practiced sexual alchemy with one of his disciples, so Hulio Medina and other disciples accused him of adultery and split the organization. Before he died, Veor declared that his spirit will rest in an Egyptian mummy until his next incarnation.
After his death, the cult was split in many groups, which are led by Litelante, Medina, Ravolou, Baron and others. Each of these groups accuses the others for using black magic. Recently, the Greek branch of the group which is led by Ravolou, changed its name to "Gnostic Christian (!) Movement of Greece of the New Order"! Other groups are called
SEG, AGEAC etc. "


http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?5,933



I didn't write this.....it's here with a whole plethora of other things...some cult buster forum....

http://cultbustersgalactica.yuku.com/topic/127#.TzwwzfnyQs0

But I did post this on ritual child abuse and in particular those done in the name of ancient Egyptian gods.....

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t791p855-egyptian-folklore-and-the-red-pill-part-1#28800

My original post on this was form the prior page.....this was simply an extra.

I find myself in full agreement with Brook here. The deceptive infiltration of sexually abusive sex cults, following dogmas like the 'philosophy' of Samael Aun Veor are rather antithetical towards a real reconfiguration of the inherent sexism and inequality of the old world of symbols and archetypes often misused and misappropriated and 'disguised' as a real insight or gnosis into the actual workings and purposes of the universe both physical and metaphysical.

Owlsden wrote:Since Thuban is also about the Kundalini Rising (which I find a fascinating Subject and experience) I decided to post this video here.. I hope it is "on topic" and does not get deleted, else I may have to start my own thread...



Happy 28th, the Sun is "on the move" again.

To whom it may concern!

The above videos of owlsden are appropriate in their overview and Manly P. Hall represented the Dragon World rather poignantly. However the second video, whilst certainly appropriate in its generality; carries a 'deceptive carrot' in its association with the stated website alcione associations and http://www.giantredplanet.com/

The words and works of Manly P. Hall and many of the esoteric information of adherents to the 'Perennial Philosophy' have become subject to corruption by followers and 'gurus' mixing and blending aspects of that philosophy with NABS and various traditions of both western and eastern 'schools of belief systems'.


One particular such 'school of thought' is the 'creator' behind the alcione association website, which, as can be seen is 'infiltrating' this forum in the data sharing and is 'misleading' well meaning, but imo self-deluded contributors like 'owlsden' and 'We are You'.

The contra indication as to regards to human- and starhuman sexuality (say as in the stigmatisation of sexual orgasm as lifeforce depleting and impure for the achievement of sexual alchemy in the 'higher love dimensions') has been indicated by me before; but allow me to excerpt some of the 'antisex guru' foundations of http://www.giantredplanet.com/ and its, in Thuban referential terms, highly antithetical premises.

http://www.paganspace.net/forum/topics/samael-aun-weor-you-heard-of?commentId=1342861%3AComment%3A6470549

Samael Aun Weor, you heard of this dude?
Posted by Sara on December 14, 2009 at 11:36pm in Commonly asked Questions & Occult Related Discussions


So yeah. My co-worker asked me to watch this video "SEX: The Secret Gate to Eden".

And it kinda made me want to die a little. My problem was with the weird scholarship mostly, much I couldn't confirm because it seemed to relate to the Gnosticism & the Kabbalah (of which I know nothing). But how the symbols were discussed... and, well... basically according to this video having an orgasm is a route to original sin. In fact that's what eating the apple off of the tree of knowledge did, we got a big XXX O from it, and from that apparently we got the 7 deadly sins (which I thought were written by Pope Gregory I).

The group who put out this video is http://gnosticteachings.org/ (the 'about this video' suggested I donate some cash to them). Samael Aun Weor wrote many books. From what info I can glean in admittedly a short period of time, is dude seemed to be all about the sex magic, but thought the orgasm was super-bad for spiritual enlightenment. Screw all you want, but don't have your big arrival... btw he says we can procreate without having an orgasm. How can a dude make the semen without it? (aside from milking, btw link isn't safe for work, or super-prudes).

Anyway, I haven't been able to find much criticism about this guy or the group... mostly what I've found is followers extolling it's virtues. Most I found was this forum. According to one person, the reason why there is little criticism is because the books were only fairly recently translated into English (dude did most of his work in Mexico).

So anybody here heard of this guy? Thoughts? Criticisms? Snide Remarks? Rude Gestures?
Love em all, bring it!


Replies to This Discussion
Reply by Hels' Maire - Sailor Uranus on December 15, 2009 at 1:44am
I am able to think like a Christian...so I say this Guy is committing blasphemy against the Lord. Primates can have orgasms as well if I remember correctly, and science found out that an orgasm provides not only the brain but the body with tension release and relaxation (which is why some recommend it against migraine or depression, to my mild dismay). Repeating all the common knowledge is futile, everyone knows -.-

One thing I really dislike about Christians is that they spend far too much time obsessing over sex. I do not wish to waste time on sex obsessed Christians.

Reply by NegaNickthePessimistic on December 15, 2009 at 2:15am
I heard some people use it to cure hicups.

Reply by llunaticraven on December 15, 2009 at 1:12pm
...One thing I really dislike about Christians is that they spend far too much time obsessing over sex. I do not wish to waste time on sex obsessed Christians. :3
Yes and it's usually obsessing over Other peoples sex lives.
I have to admitt that I will probably not look at any of these links, because, well this dude just sounds twisted up inside, and it will only piss me off, so why bother? But sadly, this isn't anything new, from the very begining, the christian stance on sex has been negative, portraying sex as dirty, wrong, and of course sinful, too bad, I can think of a few christians that could really use a good lay.

Reply by NegaNickthePessimistic on December 15, 2009 at 2:14am
IMHO it is foolish to consider a joyful harmless act as evil. It is a gift.


Reply by Joseph Andrew Zuchowski on December 15, 2009 at 3:52am
I very vaguely remember seeing a video like that some time ago, maybe it was the same person, just can't seem to recall much about the man if anything.

Reply by Infernal Seraph on December 15, 2009 at 5:02am
I heard of this dude before, but never studied any of his works. I find it very bizarre that he is so into sex magic but believes the orgasm is counterproductive to all that. It makes no sense.

Reply by Myrddin Mac Art on December 15, 2009 at 8:47am
Even the Taoists and the Tantrics appreciate the value of a good old-fashioned orgasm...they seem to teach ways to have more of them and more intense ones when we do. And for men, orgasm does not always need to be about ejaculation. It does seem better to put that off for as long as possible. I am of the opinion that sex has been around long enough so that we should spend more time deriving a deeper understanding from what has already been studied and written about it, rather than wasting our time trying to coming up with something new as if it might not have been discovered before now.

Reply by Sara on December 15, 2009 at 9:31am
Bump for the morning crowd. Thanks everyone :)

Rely by philadelphos on December 20, 2009 at 10:18pm
I found this post via a google search and I just wanted to share my point of view...

It seems that some think that this type of system is only related with Christianity. It is not. The reason pagans were so easily converted to Christianity was because they held so many similar moral codes.

Lets first take a look at the word Magic itself. Magic comes from Magi, or Magos (greek), meaning "learned one," "wise man," or "priest." A Magi, or a real Magician, is a the same as a Priest. Magical acts, then, are priestly acts.

Sex of course always has something to do with the Priestly caste of any ancient civilization. Manly P. Hall (referencing Eliphas Levi) in his Secret Teachings of All Ages states in relationship to the Druidic Mysteries:

Eliphas Levi, the celebrated transcendentalist, makes the following significant statement: "The Druids were priests and physicians, curing by magnetism and charging amylets with their fluidic influence..." [...]

Eliphas Levi states that the Druids lived in strict abstinence, studied the natural sciences, preserved the deepest secrecy, and admitted new members only after long probationary periods. Many of the priests of the order lived in buildings not unlike the monasteries of the modern world. They were associated in groups like ascetics of the Far East. Although celibacy was not demanded of them, few married. Many of the Druids retired from the world and lived as recluses in caves, in rough-stone houses, or in little shacks built in the depths of a forest. Here they prayed and meditated, emerging only to perform their religious duties. [...]

Like nearly all schools of the Mysteries, the teachings of the Druids were divided into two distinct sections. The simpler, a moral code, was taught to all the people, while the deeper, esoteric doctrine was given only to initiated priests. To be admitted to the order, a candidate was required to be of good family and of high moral character. No important secrets were entrusted to him until he had been tempted in many ways and his strength of character severely tried.

So one can argue, and I would agree, that the idea of retaining the sexual nature is not founded in Christianity, but rather that it is as old as religion itself. There was always two basic doctrines, the exoteric or outer doctrine, and the esoteric or inner doctrine. The resounds in every religion. The outer aspect always taught basic beliefs and practices. But the real meat of any doctrine was always its secret aspect that was only revealed to those initiated into them. And it is only here, in the esoteric aspect, that the true reason for sexual purity is taught.

And what exactly is the foundation of Magic, according to again Mr. Hall and Eliphas Levi?

The practice of magic--either white or black--depends upon the ability of the adept to control the universal life force--that which Eliphas Levi calls the great magical agent or the astral light. By the manipulation of this fluidic essence the phenomena of transcendentalism are produced. The famous hermaphroditic Goat of Mendes was a composite creature formulated to symbolize this astral light. It is identical with Baphomet the mystic pantheos of those disciples of ceremonial magic, the Templars, who probably obtained it from the Arabians.

This Life Force, a fluidic essence, is precisely the sexual energy in man and woman. Sexual energy is indeed the origin of any successful magical practice. Yet, there are two fundamental ways to produce magical phenomena:, through the ascension or the descension of sexual energy. The orgasm is the ejection of both the physical and subtle forms of sexual energy out of the organism and out of the emotional and mental essence of the individual into the greater currents of Nature. Although, when combined with certain procedures, this can awaken the mind, it does so by further attaching it to the currents of Nature. This, in turn means one becomes a serf or slave to the mechanical evolution and devolution of energy that is Nature. (This is symbolized by the Egyptians enslaving the Jews.)

All currents of Nature return to their source in an endless cycle: evolution always ends in devolution. Birth always leads to death. The seed is planted in the soil, grows out of the soil, is consumed by the animals of nature and is returned back into the soil. Nature always works within itself, never beyond itself. The Creator created Nature to self-sustain itself, yet it is an obstacle for the one who wants to become a Master of Nature, a King of the Earth. Of course, the sexual energy is the condensation of our blood. Our blood is created by the liquid (water), solid (food), and gaseous (air) nutrition that Nature provides. Out of our blood, the hormones, semen and other sexual energy is created, so, from a biological standpoint this energy is very expensive to produce, and from an energetic aspect, very powerful. In fact, it is the most powerful energy in man. Now because it all comes from Nature, Nature wants it to be returned, and it usually is. The sexual impulse in man and woman is so powerful they cannot resist, and are always compelled to return their creative forces back into the larger currents of Nature (orgasm). This however is inconvenient for the ascension of the soul, because any mind or soul that is attached to these mechanical currents (which is basically everyone in the world) will eventually find themselves devolving in the Inferno, or Hell. This of course is very painful (the more attached, the more pain). It does end however, with the soul being purified of all desire, and eventually re-evolving back into a human again.

Anyway, the point is, this form of magic (using the descension of sexual energy), in the end, is not good for the soul, and even though certain physical or metaphysical things can be achieved through this method, it is nevertheless what what Manly P. Hall and Eliphas Levi would call Black Magic.

Now we can better understand what it means to apply one's fluidic influence upon an amulet or person in order to cure them, and why any Priest, Monk, Rabbi, or holy man needs to take care of his fluidic life force. For example, the Priest in a Christian Church performs the Eucharist, which is magical act. The Priest is responsible for taking the Christic forces from above and placing them in the bread and wine, but if the Priest does not have a magnetic-fluidic force vibrating within his own blood, then the forces from above will not be attracted into the Bread and Wine. Of course, today, no one in the Church knows these things. They do not know anything about the power of sex. They only know about repression. The fact that the Church has been rocked with sexual scandal proves that they know nothing about these matters. The Church has forgotten how to work with the sexual energy.

The basis of White Magic, then, is the transmutation of sexual energy. This is done in many different ways, but best way to to sexually unite but refrain from the orgasm or any type of fluidic or energetic loss. From a physical standpoint, this provides the blood with enormous enrichment especially for the brain and the pineal glad. From the standpoint of the soul, a redirection of the flow of creative-sexual energy begins. Instead of going down and out, it ascends upwards and makes contact with the higher or superior archetypes of the soul and begins to fertilize all the latent aspects of it. By transforming the octave of energy, the creative energy ascends back to its origin, to the Creator itself. By doing this, an active connection is found between God and Man. This is how the rebinding or reunion occurs (religion means "to fuse together")

If you want to know the truth behind the Old Testiment, you have to learn Hebrew alphabet and study the Zohar, which says: The narratives of the Doctrine are its cloak. The simple look only at the garment - that is, upon the narrative of the Doctrine; more they know not. The instructed, however, see not merely the cloak, but what the cloak covers. – The Zohar, iii. The story of Genesis is about the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. If you read Genesis, you will see that "to know" mean to have sex. (Adam knew Even and bore Cain.) So, the Tree of Knowledge is related with sex. The story of Genesis, Creation, is a symbolic story dealing with the creative, or sexual, energy.

The Seven Deadly sins are related with the seven aspects of the soul, the seven basic archetypes of the soul that are put into activity in a negative way. Seven, in kabbalastic terms, is Malkuth, Yesod, Hod, Netzach, Tiphereth, Chesed, and Geburah. Those aspects and be developed in a negative way (called by Christians the seven deadly sins) or a positive way.

With sexual magic, one needs to learn how to handle the sexual energy, which doesn't mean they can screw all they want. :-) A lifetime of this type of sexual magic means that one can be easily be 70 or 80 and still be very sexually potent, without the need for Viagra. Instead, we have men barely 40 who have problems with erections precisely because they have lost all their sexual potency. The method the Samael Aun Weor provides a way have a very healthy body and brain into old age, while also providing natural birth control, and of course, a development of the soul which is experienced directly in day to day living.

Semen is produced prior to orgasm. A single sperm can escape and reach the ovum without ejaculation. This type of sperm would be very strong, very healthy and produce a child with very good genes. To conceive without the orgasm is very possible and is one of the meanings behind Virginal Birth. :-)


Reply by Infernal Seraph on December 21, 2009 at 2:48am
The Seven Deadly sins are related with the seven aspects of the soul, the seven basic archetypes of the soul that are put into activity in a negative way. Seven, in kabbalastic terms, is Malkuth, Yesod, Hod, Netzach, Tiphereth, Chesed, and Geburah.

This is the first I've heard of this, did you read this somewhere or come up with it yourself? Either way, I'm interested in knowing which "sin" corresponds to which sphere.


Reply by philadelphos on December 21, 2009 at 8:31pm
I was speaking in synthesis there a bit actually. What I mean is, we can place correspondences of any number upon the Being. The whole tree of life is the Being, which can be divided into 3, 7, 12, 24, etc.

According to Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy, he explains the seven sins through the Circles II - VIII of Hell. The Nine Circles of Hell are the Nine Klipothic Sephiroth, but Dante's correlations are better understood as the correspondences between two of Klipothic sephoroth, because he reserves the first circle to limbo, and the second circle to lust. Lust is obviously Yesod (if we place the tree of life over the image of a man, Yesod covers the sex).

So, using that as a guide we would say:

Lust - Klipothic Malkuth-Yesod - 2nd Circle
Gluttony - Klipothic Yesod-Hod - 3rd Circle
Greed - Klipothic Hod-Netzach - 4th Circle
Spiritual Negligence - Klipothic Netzach-Tiphereth - 5th Circle
Wrath - Klipothic Tiphereth-Geburah - 6th Circle
Envy - Klipothic Geburah-Chesed - 7th Circle
Pride - Klipothic Chesed-Binah - 8th Circle

The names of each sin, of course, have changed. It is not the name of each sin which important, it is the principle behind it. The Seven Sins are the seven head of the dragon of darkness in the Book of Revelation, the Seven Demons that Jesus drove out of Mary, etc., etc.


Reply by philadelphos on December 29, 2009 at 9:50am
BTW: If you are looking for more information on the Kabbalistic aspects of Hell, there is a whole series of articles about that here:

http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/kabbalah-1-klipoth.html


To summarize; the Thuban Way of Life' is antithetical to that of the 'guru' Samael Aun Weor and its relations and inclusive of the quasi-gnostic philosophies sprouted by its adherents and its followers.

We Are You wrote:dearest Carol and friends

Thanks for sharing your life for the sake of the best possible outcome.
I need to answer your question about the links: The tools that are explained
on those links helped me to overcome some problems that are exposed here, so
it seems a great idea to share this piece of information that once (and now) helped me
with people who may also benefit from them, as far as they can feel the truth on them,
it does not matter who wrote them the first time or the last time because they are universal knowledge
made available for us from Creator. The only difference for me on these links is that, on everyday life, including
here on MoA, information and misinformation are mixed, and it takes a huge effort to separate what is true fact and direct knowledge (not second hand coral repetition) from what is misinformation or just guessing, sometimes useful whenever intuition-based or heart-based or love-based. After 14 years reading those books the only misinformation that I could find was from people who try to explain them and also errors recognized by the author whenever he found out he was wrong or not perfect. before learning about this knowledge I used to have random intuition and the consequences as surprise (good ones and not so good ones), after reading these books I can avoid mistakes, I can understand my dreams about myself and I can use my own intuition on a better way, I still have difficulties to understand the meaning when I dream about other people, and MoA help me a lot to understand them based on the facts presented here and also based on other people life experience and intuition and talks like that, sometimes private messages. It is like an everyday update and transformation from ideas to facts, good ones and not so good ones.

Thank you for your response. This thread has turned into something quite amazing to me. One reads what is shared and finds the deeper connections of what helps us at an individual level on this journey we call life. We share experiences, insights, knowledge and continue to come to a larger understanding of what is being presented.

I think some of us are also realizing we are ETs where our spirit inhabits a physical body on this earth. Some come in forgetfulness, some remember bits and pieces and in the sharing of our individual stories we continue to grow and learn about one another and ourselves. So do you wonder if perhaps we are moving toward remembering?

I would dearly love to know what some of these ET groups are up to. Including the human variety. Meanwhile, its time to sleep and dream.. and perhaps remember a bit more.

Lionhawk wrote:

Thank-you Sanicle. I can feel your compassion. Also you reaching out to join with this soul family. (now I'm starting to sound like Mudra Where is she?) It's all good!

Speaking of compassion, I would like to speak of one, who because of what Neteru started here as far as this thread and to what has been brought out so far, there is someone here who upon reading the testimony of my latest attack, took the time to try and address the condition of my legs, in a real way.

It turns out that because of my condition, I have to take a nap to recharge on most days. On the last nap I took, I felt what seemed to be like a finger touch the outside right ankle bone. At first I thought it was our cat, Sasha, as she takes a nap with me on most occasions. But it wasn't. Our property is also shielded and there has only been one person who has gotten through that shield. Simply because you have to have the right stuff to get through it. And that was Mercuriel and he did that inadvertently. Well, I have to add to that list now and say "WELL DONE Malletsky"! And a huge hug and thank-you! For your healing work. I never asked him for this.

I told Brook about what I had felt. I told her that I thought someone was trying to do some healing work on my legs. But there is a major problem with that condition. It's like the meshing between the physical components and the spiritual body components have been separated. It is the reason why, the Doctors will surely end up treating the symptoms and not fixing the problem. Also as to why it will have be done off world. We were also informed of this. The reason being is that it is more complex than what I have revealed so far. Complications due to another attack during the time of Atlantis where a nuclear device was detonated, which sank Atlantis, and really screwed up the soul body because I was at ground zero when the detonation occurred. I had to be patched back up and the soul data that was lost was reprogrammed as the best they could. But it was not done in a complete fashion because of timing. In other words, it would have taken to long to repair properly and would have effected the timeline my soul was on. In most cases, there is another facility to where souls are taken and repaired by nuclear mishaps. This did not happen in my case. So other codes were put in place so that my soul body would be functional. This is done with dimensional pixels. That is the best way I can describe it. So we were told that it can be repaired but not on the Planet.

So thank-you Sanicle and Malletsky for your compassion. and

Sorry I didn't ask YOU here...but I 'asked' somewhere else...and it was granted . This is why I could get thru to YOU here

It's allways a pleasure mate.

Many hugs back and Much respect
Mall...

Lionhawk wrote:
Thank-you Sanicle. I can feel your compassion. Also you reaching out to join with this soul family. (now I'm starting to sound like Mudra Where is she?) It's all good!

I am here Lionhawk in the loving presence always.
When I hear of suffering or am witness to troubled waters
I bring those to my Heart and ask the Creator to mend the broken
pieces back to wholeness.
I do not have much to say at times as silent work is taking place.
And then when words come to be said that would be meaningfull I hear
them expressed through the wisdom of others here in the forum and there
is'nt really anything to add. As I feel Love's quintessence flowing unhindered
and that spark of pure Light that we are, glowing in compassion through the dark
I thank the Creator for I know that Love is fading our soul family's pain away.



Love for You All.



mudra

This is a very interesting thread. I just started reading through the posts. I don't have an ET experience -- unless seeing UFO's and dealing with someone who claimed to be an Ancient Egyptian Deity counts. I've been rather tight-lipped about this close encounter -- but I have related select portions of this experience within 'The United States of the Solar System' thread -- especially in recent months -- as more and more time passes since the contact. There was no demand that I not talk about this -- but I considered this close encounter to be mostly 'off the record'. I think the contact probably occurred because of my internet activities. I don't seek this sort of thing at all. I don't experiment or dabble. I grew-up as a fairly Conservative Christian in a church which discouraged anything of that nature -- and I think for legitimate reasons. However, I do sometimes like to read about what others have encountered -- even though I feel very disoriented when I do so.

Lionhawk wrote:
Thank-you Sanicle. I can feel your compassion. Also you reaching out to join with this soul family. (now I'm starting to sound like Mudra Where is she?) It's all good!

You're very welcome Lionhawk. This really is a bitter-sweet thread but all the sharing is truly beautiful to see and feel and has to be healing in itself.

I also have been experimenting with "psychokinesis." Really all I have ever accomplished is being able to touch objects without physically touching them. I can "push" the space between my palms, or between my palm, and another object. I can physically feel a force between my palms, almost magnetic. I have caused my palms to push against, and pull from each other. It's the same when I try to push on another object. I've never managed to move anything to be honest. There was one instance where I managed to causes a very light, and very small piece of plastic wrap to go "sailing" away from my hand while it was sitting in a drawer. It believed that it was a small pocket that held screws in it at one time. It's as if I know for a fact that I should be able to manipulate objects in this way. We never truly touch anything with our skin since there is energy between our fingers, and even the keys on a keyboard. We are really just pushing against energy but very close in proximity. Anyways it may not be exactly related to my other experiences but it certainly is something I wanted to share. :)

As someone who was involved with the Gnostic Movement for several years, and also an abductee, I can't see the conection, except in terms of those who see ET as "demonic" .

Maybe we need a "Gnostis VS Thuban;- "the smackdown"" thread, and an "ETs; are they demons," thread ?

In bewiderment, Chimpsky.

I'm off to swing in me tyre for a bit

Chimpsky wrote:As someone who was involved with the Gnostic Movement for several years, and also an abductee, I can't see the conection, except in terms of those who see ET as "demonic" .

Maybe we need a "Gnostis VS Thuban;- "the smackdown"" thread, and an "ETs; are they demons," thread ?

In bewiderment, Chimpsky.

I'm off to swing in me tyre for a bit

I believe it is the opposite. What early man once believed were demons/angels/gods were indeed ET entities. I think that it's pretty misleading to say that ET are all "demons deceiving humans." That would imply that a particular religion is true, a religion that I broke away from, and have been all the better off since. We can get into a huge philosophical debate about religion, but that tends to stir up a lot of negative air. I personally tend to get carried away and very angry when talking about that subject. I had a very negative experience with religion. Very.

Neteru wrote:

Chimpsky wrote:As someone who was involved with the Gnostic Movement for several years, and also an abductee, I can't see the conection, except in terms of those who see ET as "demonic" .

Maybe we need a "Gnostis VS Thuban;- "the smackdown"" thread, and an "ETs; are they demons," thread ?

In bewiderment, Chimpsky.

I'm off to swing in me tyre for a bit

I believe it is the opposite. What early man once believed were demons/angels/gods were indeed ET entities. I think that it's pretty misleading to say that ET are all "demons deceiving humans." That would imply that a particular religion is true, a religion that I broke away from, and have been all the better off since. We can get into a huge philosophical debate about religion, but that tends to stir up a lot of negative air. I personally tend to get carried away and very angry when talking about that subject. I had a very negative experience with religion. Very.

We do not have to engage in religious debates for they serve no one.
But we have to examine the nature of phenomena of ET`s.
What I understand and feel though my experiences ,I see that entities are spiritual in nature-all of them and all of us.
It`s just that bodies and some other physical features are different.

Religious debates just stir the water when we don`t need to stir it for how should we see what`s in it?

In reality religions are imaginations of spirits and souls about God.
Truth is multi layered as we are.

Problems arise when one soul in certain body imagine all through narrow lenses of his or hers.
It`s like Gray would deny God, Reptilian would claim that God is a Dragon or arch Dragon ,Human would say God is a man or a woman and Insectoid would claim that God is an insect in nature.

Reality is far more complex for our current minds to grasp.

Christ stated that ;
Indeed, the time is
coming, and it is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the
Father in spirit and truth. The Father is looking for people like that
to worship him. God is a spirit. Those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4:23,24)

Since God is a spirit -allpowerful one and life itself and Love itself - it can be whomever it wants to be.
Man,woman,gray,snake,snail,tiger,air,earth,sun,galaxy,molecule of water,atom of iron,angel,insect,rose, and tar tar sauce.

So point of view and claim that God is this or that exclusively would be trying to limit the limitless.

If I come and say God is human I am saying the truth but God is also everything else in existence.

So when we speak about ET`s we speak about expressions of God who are or aren`t on a higher tech and spiritual levels that current us over here on Earth.

Yep maybe for me a body of dragon is repulsive or an insect but maybe human body is repulsive to them too!
Problem arise when one "body" decides that is better than others and starts to coerce other bodies to accept first one`s supreme being.
That`s like kids playing in the kindergarden saying my toy is better than yours hence all must play with this kind or type of toy or I will beat you!

:)

That would only give you a call of the teacher from me (I might add)

On the other hand beauty of God`s diversity in astounding!
I would very much like to experience other realities while in this body with other races in harmony and peace and sheer joy.
I just had enough of warmongering and fights among children of God.

Grays - come along in the spirit of Christ and present your case- maybe we can aid you fairly.
Dragons - come forward in the spirit of Christ and maybe we can see what troubles you.
All others come forward in the spirit of Christ and let us see who we are and how we can aid each other in any way though harmony joy and peace.

Warning:

Following list not tolerated :
abduction, human bodies aren`t food for anyone,mind control, abuse of any kind,coercion,fear mongering, mockery,cynicism,technology slavery.

Bring in Love, compassion,life .

That basically sums up how I see things. Religion is pointless to argue. The problem is when people start using terms like "demon" and "satan." I stay away from such words personally because to me, like you said, this reality is far greater than any mind can comprehend. I have first hand experience that tells me that ETs are not "fallen angels." Unfortunately I cannot show anyone my memories. I wish I could. But all I can do is talk about my experiences. We live in a vast reality. Very vast. So much bigger than any religion of man can describe. I personally do not even bring Earth religions into my own "system of belief." I know my soul is not from here, so why center my reality here? I do not use the names of any religious figure. I consider the Source God to be just that. A Source God. Perhaps this force is in the shape of a dragon, or is pure energy. There is no telling. I only know that it exists and multitudes of life forms and worlds were created in it's wake.

I used to think that the last image there was real. :(

Neteru wrote:I believe it is the opposite. What early man once believed were demons/angels/gods were indeed ET entities. I think that it's pretty misleading to say that ET are all "demons deceiving humans." That would imply that a particular religion is true, a religion that I broke away from, and have been all the better off since. We can get into a huge philosophical debate about religion, but that tends to stir up a lot of negative air. I personally tend to get carried away and very angry when talking about that subject. I had a very negative experience with religion. Very.

That basically sums up how I see things. Religion is pointless to argue. The problem is when people start using terms like "demon" and "satan." I stay away from such words personally because to me, like you said, this reality is far greater than any mind can comprehend. I have first hand experience that tells me that ETs are not "fallen angels." Unfortunately I cannot show anyone my memories. I wish I could. But all I can do is talk about my experiences. We live in a vast reality. Very vast. So much bigger than any religion of man can describe. I personally do not even bring Earth religions into my own "system of belief." I know my soul is not from here, so why center my reality here? I do not use the names of any religious figure. I consider the Source God to be just that. A Source God. Perhaps this force is in the shape of a dragon, or is pure energy. There is no telling. I only know that it exists and multitudes of life forms and worlds were created in it's wake

What I tend to come across on many forums is one of two positions, that of religous zelots who claim all ETs are demonic and are satan in disguise, and on the other hand the "if I cant kick it, it ain't real" brigade, ( in which I include the AA theory chaps) who think that all paranormal / spiritual / unexplanable things are Flesh & blood ETs, and every religion has its origin in ET visitations.

It is my opinion that it isn't an either / or scenario but a mixture of both, that is there are ETs, physical & otherwise, and Angels & demons. This opinion is based soley on first hand experience, and is not a belief or part of a belief sytem.

Religion was originally the entrance to the Great Mystery Schools, where the main thing to learn was concious faith ( not the same as belief ). Spirituality was explained using stories, the true meanings of which were well known to initiates.

However we are now in the situation where only the stories remain, and are taken at face value in a way that can only be described as superstition.

The tradgedy of this, is that this kind of stupidity ( which is always allied with power play ) is the most damaging to truely spiritual people such as yourself.

One of the most interestin aspects of the more benign ET encounters is that it usually involves those who are clearly on a spiritual path, and or are originally from else where and are incarnated here.

Wether this is some form of monitering, or to help the person remember who he is, I don't know, maybe its both. The really unpleasant thing is getting follow up MILABs as they try to get information about ET.

I totally agree with the Source / God concept, its just too big for our tiny brains.

" The entire universe is within the human mind. All minds are within all minds. We
mutually live within the thought spheres of others. The economic and social problems of each
person live in everyone; no one is alien to another. We are all within the mind of everyone
else. The beggar lives within the mind of the rich man and the latter lives in the mind of the
beggar. We are all submerged in the ocean of universal mind" and eternal LOVE.

Chimpsky wrote:

Neteru wrote:I believe it is the opposite. What early man once believed were demons/angels/gods were indeed ET entities. I think that it's pretty misleading to say that ET are all "demons deceiving humans." That would imply that a particular religion is true, a religion that I broke away from, and have been all the better off since. We can get into a huge philosophical debate about religion, but that tends to stir up a lot of negative air. I personally tend to get carried away and very angry when talking about that subject. I had a very negative experience with religion. Very.

That basically sums up how I see things. Religion is pointless to argue. The problem is when people start using terms like "demon" and "satan." I stay away from such words personally because to me, like you said, this reality is far greater than any mind can comprehend. I have first hand experience that tells me that ETs are not "fallen angels." Unfortunately I cannot show anyone my memories. I wish I could. But all I can do is talk about my experiences. We live in a vast reality. Very vast. So much bigger than any religion of man can describe. I personally do not even bring Earth religions into my own "system of belief." I know my soul is not from here, so why center my reality here? I do not use the names of any religious figure. I consider the Source God to be just that. A Source God. Perhaps this force is in the shape of a dragon, or is pure energy. There is no telling. I only know that it exists and multitudes of life forms and worlds were created in it's wake

What I tend to come across on many forums is one of two positions, that of religous zelots who claim all ETs are demonic and are satan in disguise, and on the other hand the "if I cant kick it, it ain't real" brigade, ( in which I include the AA theory chaps) who think that all paranormal / spiritual / unexplanable things are Flesh & blood ETs, and every religion has its origin in ET visitations.

It is my opinion that it isn't an either / or scenario but a mixture of both, that is there are ETs, physical & otherwise, and Angels & demons. This opinion is based soley on first hand experience, and is not a belief or part of a belief sytem.

Religion was originally the entrance to the Great Mystery Schools, where the main thing to learn was concious faith ( not the same as belief ). Spirituality was explained using stories, the true meanings of which were well known to initiates.

However we are now in the situation where only the stories remain, and are taken at face value in a way that can only be described as superstition.

The tradgedy of this, is that this kind of stupidity ( which is always allied with power play ) is the most damaging to truely spiritual people such as yourself.

One of the most interestin aspects of the more benign ET encounters is that it usually involves those who are clearly on a spiritual path, and or are originally from else where and are incarnated here.

Wether this is some form of monitering, or to help the person remember who he is, I don't know, maybe its both. The really unpleasant thing is getting follow up MILABs as they try to get information about ET.

I totally agree with the Source / God concept, its just too big for our tiny brains.

That is more or less how I see it. It's a mixture of physical and non-physical. Once you have spiritually evolved enough, you do not need a physical body anymore. That is why some consider ET to be demonic. Some races exist in a non-physical way. To them they are physical, or fluid really, but to us they seem to be completely ethereal. Higher dimensions will look very ethereal or non-physical to us if we look at them from third density.

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My name is Kelvin Curnow, and I live in Plymouth, England. I have had several experiences with celestial craft (UFO’s ) since early childhood, and have also had telepathic communication with these craft on many occasions during my lifetime. I have always felt very strongly since childhood, that I do not belong here, but have to accept the fact, that I answered a call, and incarnated here for a higher purpose.

Many of us are known as ‘ starseeds ‘/’ lightworkers ‘, we are human in appearance, but have extraterrestrial souls to carry out the work that needs to be done on ‘ earth ‘ to raise higher human consciousness, to assist humanity during the current transition of the ‘ earth changes ‘, as prophesized by the Mayans of Central America and the Hopi Indians of Arizona.

When I reached the age of 34, I decided to go public about my experiences and was invited to India, to give talks to people of all religions, on my experiences with highly evolved benevolent extraterrestrials, that I had interacted with since early childhood.

In one of my many experiences, I believe that I was either in a trance, or actually having an ‘ out of body ‘ experience, when at the age of 15, I remember getting out of bed, walking down the stairs, and walking out of the back of the house and into the rear garden. Just beyond the garden wall, which was about 1 meter high, there was an open field with 3 or 4 horses about 100 meters away, at the top of the field.

Roughly 15 meters from the garden wall, there was a saucer / disc shaped craft, roughly 10 meters in diameter, glowing with white luminosity, and standing right by the craft, there were three beautiful androgenous beings, with long blonde hair and blue eyes, wearing long white robes.

They communicated with me telepathically, and I felt very strongly that I knew them, and that they knew me. I must state quite clearly, that I was not abducted, but was ‘ invited ‘ to board the craft. I went on board the spacecraft at my own freewill, as I felt so much love coming from these beautiful beings and felt entirely safe with them.

When I was on the craft, I had no recollection of being taken anywhere, but do remember there being crystals in the centre of the craft, of which I felt at the time, was their power source, when traveling to and from the ‘ motherships ‘, which actually travel interdimensionally, as there are many different dimensions and universes of reality. Also, because these craft are able to travel interdimensionally, they also have the ability to manipulate time-travel.

During my experience on board the craft, I was shown different timeline scenarios, of possible future world events, including enormous climate change and the collapse of the world’s monetary system. I was also shown other possible future world events, of which I will not disclose, however, whatever happens to the future of humanity, we must remember that the future is not set in stone, and that we the inhabitants of this beautiful planet, have the power to bring about the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, if we so choose to, putting behind our prejudices against skin color and religions, as ‘ We Are All One ‘.

All three beings were on the craft with me, one on the other side of the crystals opposite me, one to my left, and another being to my right. To this day, I have no idea where I may of been taken, but I do remember that I was able to communicate with them telepathically, and I remember feeling sad, when I came off the craft. In the morning, I just woke up in bed, and went off to school.

It was not until the 31st August, 1997, when the Princess of Wales was killed in a car accident in Paris, that I was sitting at a computer, and felt that I was receiving information of which I typed on the keyboard. Much of the information that came through, was about what we are experiencing in the current timeline, such as accelerated climate change, resulting in millions of people, crossing international borders in search of food and water, as well as increased earthquake and volcanic activity and the imminent collapse of the world’s financial institutions.

When I was incarnated here on ‘ earth ‘ in 1958, I had no memory of my past life existence, however, I feel a very strong connection with the ‘ Pleiades ‘ star system, and I do know for a fact, that planet ‘ earth ‘ is the only inhabited planet in the galaxy, that has a monetary system.

It is my belief, that due to the current transition of the ‘ earth changes ‘ that not only are we experiencing geophysical and climatic changes, but also changes in our current out-dated social, political and economic system, which will finally result in the collapse of the monetary system.

As long as there is a planetary monetary system in place, there will not be ‘ peace ‘ on this ‘ earth ‘ as it is the banking system that finances the wars that sadly continue to this day, but for not much longer, as money is just an illusion, that was introduced by the Romans just over 2,000 years ago, when ‘ salt ‘ was used as the first currency before metal coins.

There are enough resources on this planet for everyone, and no-one should ever have to go hungry or not have a warm comfortable home to live in. As soon as the monetary system collapses, I have absolutely no doubt, that there will be a temporary difficult transition, but at least we can all move forward without the monetary system, and build a better and much more loving world, as the ‘ creator ‘ intended it to be.

If you are a person who has also had similar experiences as myself with extraterrestrials, you are welcome to contact me at my personal email address, which is: curnow.kelvin@yahoo.co.uk as this is a time, when all ‘ starseeds’ and ‘ lightworkers ‘ must gather together, to finish the mission that we volunteered to do, when we incarnated here on Earth to assist humanity to a higher level of consciousness, giving us the ‘ opportunity ‘ to lead all of us onto the ‘ Christ Consciousness ‘ when Jesus and the ‘ Masters ‘ of all the other religions spoke of humanity, having ‘ one consciousness ‘.

Above, is a painting that I had commissioned several years ago, in regard to my experience at 15 years of age, when three highly evolved androgenous beings, invited me onto their craft.

‘ Love, Light and Peace on Earth ‘

‘ Namaste ‘

Kelvin Curnow



I was ‘Invited’ Aboard a Craft by 3 Androgenous Beings in Long White Robes | Exopolitics Institute News Service.





Ladies and gentlemen, tonight we are going to speak about some very interesting subjects of living reality. Obviously, we are in times of extraordinary concerns for the world. Thus, it is necessary—if it is what we want—to deeply reflect on them at this present moment in which we live.

It appears that we have a powerful modern civilization, since many advances have been made in the fields of physics, chemistry, medicine, engineering, etc. In this, our great civilization, we have built powerful ships and directed them towards the Moon. Ships have scanned space, and have landed on the lunar surface, etc. Ships have also been sent to Venus, although they were not manned. Excursions to Mars are planned, and it has been said that around the year 1985, or maybe later, the United States is planning to send a manned nuclear rocket to Mars. We will wait for concrete results on this particular subject-matter. All of this is intriguing and extraordinary in its depth.

Television has fulfilled a great mission, since thanks to the television we perfectly followed the progress of the rockets that descended upon the Moon. Much about lunar life was learned, and this was abundantly investigated.

Many wise men previously thought that the Moon was a piece of Earth projected into outer space, yet the carbon-14 tests were definitive: Earthlings arrived at the logical conclusion that the Moon existed before the Earth. The Moon is older than the Earth, and this by itself is sensational. All those wise men that in the past maintained the theory that the Moon was a piece of the Earth projected into outer space were lamentably mistaken. I repeat: tests and rigorous analysis of the lunar rocks by means of carbon-14 indicated to Earthlings that those wise men who in the past maintained the thesis that the Moon was a piece of the Earth were mistaken.

Therefore, we are in times of great scientific concerns for the world. We must reflect deeply upon all of these things, at least for awhile.

You are here because you have scientific concerns for the world, and I am here because I also have great scientific concerns for the world. You have come willingly to listen to me, and I am prepared to converse with you; thus, between us there must be an exchange of ideas. Indeed, we have all met together in order to study many things, in order to analyze diverse important subjects that are interesting to you and me. Thus, I want all of us, all together, to analyze these subjects of living reality.

Obviously, we Earthlings struggle for the conquest of space, and we are sincerely doing it. Our scientists fly upon the wings of their projects towards a future in which the Earthlings definitively conquer other worlds. Nevertheless, we must not in any way become fascinated with so many sophisms. Instead, it is convenient that we—by our own means—investigate for ourselves. In this way, we will probably avoid many disappointments.

You know that in these times, much has been spoken about the subject of cosmic ships coming from other planets. There is a type of antinomy, a very interesting antithesis between rockets launched by “Tyrians and Trojans”† to the Moon or Venus, and cosmic ships originated from other planets. Among the “Tyrians and Trojans” there is a certain skepticism that leads to nowhere. There are therefore concerns on one side, and on the other—antagonistic concepts, clashing opinions; to reflect upon all of this is praiseworthy.

When we hear about flying saucers, we may pay attention or we just smile a little, skeptically, but listen: there is something real in all of this, since it does not seem to me—in any way—that our planet Earth is the only inhabited planet.

When one studies the “Panspermia” of Arrhenius, one discovers with mystical astonishment that the seed-germs of life come from other planets; thus, the theories of Arrhenius are intriguing.

Obviously, within the luminiferous dust of stars, our planet Earth is an inhabited world, a world that rotates around the Sun, a planet like any other in the infinite space. The law of philosophical analogies invites us to think that if our planet Earth is inhabited, then there also must be other inhabited planets within the infinite space. I will never think that the seed-germs of universal life are an exclusive patrimony of the planet Earth; it seems to me that exclusivism in this sense is regressive, reactionary, retarded.

I invite you to think: if we are fighting for the conquest of space, it is then possible that this same fight also exists on other planets. Therefore, I will never discard the idea of the possibility of extraterrestrial people, inhabitants of other spheres, who have already conquered outer space. To think that we are the only ones in such a huge space, made up of millions and millions of planets, is too reactionary and snobbish.

Remember that in the times of Columbus, many were those who laughed at that wise man, that great navigator, when he hurled, as they said then, through the ocean, beyond “Cape Finisterre.” Then, in the time of Columbus, there was the belief that the Earth was flat, square, thus nobody in Europe accepted the possibility of life beyond Cape Finisterre, which in Latin means “where the Earth (terre) ends (finis).”

It appears that sometimes there are those who think with a medieval mind, denying the possibility of conscious and intelligent life on other planets. Indubitably, they think with an old fashioned, anti-revolutionary, medieval criterion.

Let us admit the possibility of life on other planets.

The cosmic ships are a reality. People more cultured than us exist on other inhabited planets. They already conquered outer space, and about this I can give you a convincing testimony.

If I were to base myself on mere intellectual lucubrations, then indeed I would not have a basis to affirm the thesis of other planets inhabited by extraterrestrial people. If I were to base myself solely on purely intellectual conceptions of formal logic or dialectic reasoning in order to emphasize the idea of the possibility of the existence of extraterrestrial people, then I would be just another theoretician. Yet, truly, the existence of extraterrestrial beings is a fact for me. I know them personally, in flesh and bone, and for that reason I do not have any inconvenience in giving testimony about them. If you believe it, good. If you accept it, wonderful. If you reject it, that is your business. In any case, I will give my testimony.

One day, it does not matter which, when residing in Mexico City, I had to visit “El Desierto de los Leones” (The Desert of the Lions National Park). I wanted to peacefully abide there, even if only for a few hours. I wanted to deliver myself to the calmest of reflections.

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All of a sudden, I felt myself attracted towards a certain place in the forest. I saw a space there, in the woods. I do not know why I had the feeling of directing myself towards that place, even when indeed I found an enormous cosmic ship standing upon a steel tripod.

Obviously, I confess to you that I felt completely confused, moved; that discovery left me absolutely astounded. However the story does not end here: a metallic hatch opened, and I saw the chief or captain descend from that ship… the crew came behind him. Naturally, I addressed the chief, the captain; I saluted him, and he answered my greeting in perfect Spanish…

“Good morning,” I said to him.

“Good morning,” answered the captain…

Amongst the crew I saw two elderly ladies. What age could they be? I do not know. Unquestionably, their ages would have to correspond to other times, not to our earthly time.

I spoke to the captain, saying, “Sir, I would like to know the planet Mars, since my own spiritual, divine, sparkling seed-germ relates to that planet of the infinite space.” (My Monad, we would say, speaking in the style of Leibnitz, who occupied himself so much with the Monads)…

After some minutes, the captain in charge of that ship took the floor and said, “To Mars is what you said?”

“Yes, I would like to know the planet Mars, and I would like you to take me there. I am willing to go with you now, immediately; nothing can hold me on the planet Earth.”

“To Mars,” said the captain to me, “such a planet is just there; indeed, that world is very nearby.”

Thus, when speaking in this manner, I comprehended that my request, or that my pretension had been too poor. I believed I had requested something very great, but so… why lie? My request had been indeed very poor… By certain intuitive signs, they made me understand that the ship that seemed so splendid to me came down from a mother ship that was hidden, orbiting the Earth.

Our solar system—well-known with the name “solar system of Ors”—was not in any way unknown to the captain, yet it was but one of so many solar systems of the unalterable infinite… Undoubtedly, I found myself before intergalactic travelers, people who travel from galaxy to galaxy, wise and cognizant individuals.

“I am a writer,” I said to him, “and I would like to be taken to other inhabited planets, in order to write and give convincing testimony to this humanity about the existence of other inhabited planets… I am a man,” I said to him, “I am not a simple intellectual animal; the request that I make of you is not for me, but for this humanity in general. I would like in some way to contribute to the general culture of this world on which I live...”

In short, I set out many concepts; nevertheless, that captain kept silent. I even held on to that tripod of steel, with the purpose of not letting go of it until they agreed to put me inside the ship and take off with me. But everything was useless: they kept silent…

I examined that man and all the crew: they were personages of a copper color, ample forehead, thin body, stature of about one meter with twenty, thirty, or forty centimeters [3.8 to 4.4 feet], at the most…

The crew finally sat down on some wood trunks that were in the forest. The ladies were two venerable elders, and I could not do less than to observe such strange creatures…

I could not see in them our terrestrial perversity. I carefully noticed the sense of human responsibility that they had. They spoke little, because they have a very high concept of the word. They do not speak on a whim like us: they speak little and say much. For them, the word is gold, powdered gold. They only use it in very indispensable cases…

I did not see the face of assassins on them, like ours, the Earthlings, neither did I see that Machiavellian look on them (with which so many particular films are adorned). In those strange creatures only shone wisdom, love, and power. They are humans, but true humans, in the most complete sense of the word.

None of them wanted to abduct me. On the contrary, I fought too much, requesting from them that they take me. I am sure that if they had granted such a request to me, in no way would they have made me a “guinea pig for their laboratory.” We Earthlings are another thing. If by any chance we managed to catch an extraterrestrial, it is certain that he would immediately go to the laboratory, and as far as the ship, we would confiscate it, and with it, like a pattern, we would be able to build many other ships in order to bomb defenseless cities, in order to conquer other worlds by force, and make devilish things and more, because we Earthlings—beginning with me—are truly terribly perverse; that is the crude reality of the facts. In no way I have come here in order “to wash my hands” in front of you, and to say that I am a meek sheep; no! All of us here are “cut with the same scissors,” thus the defects that I have, you have them also, and vice versa…

Therefore, I assure you that the testimony that I give about those people is sincere, truly sincere. I am not trying in any way to deform the testimony, to deform the truth.

Finally, from those of the crew who were seated upon the wood trunks there, one of the ladies stood up, and in the name of all the crew she took the floor and said, “If we place a plant that is not aromatic next to another that is aromatic, the one that is not aromatic would be impregnated with the aroma of the one that is aromatic.”

Soon she continued, “The same happens on inhabited planets. Worlds that previously advanced poorly, with perverse humanities, were little by little transformed by the aroma, the vibration, of neighboring planets. But, as you see, we just arrived here at this planet Earth, and we do not see that the same happens here. What is happening on this planet?”

Well, the question that they asked me was tremendous, and I had to give an answer, then, of high quality… Thus, without reflecting that much, but of course taking care of the word very well, I said, “This planet Earth is a mistake of the Gods…” But soon I completed it, clarifying the concept as best I could, and said, “This is how the Karma of the worlds is.”

Karma is a word that represents or means cause and effect: by such a cause, such an effect. The Earth has causes that brought it into existence, and if within those causes are mistakes, more or less, the effects will have the outcome of those mistakes” …

Thus, when saying, “This is how the Karma of the worlds is,” with great astonishment I saw that the elderly lady who had spoken agreed, inclining her head with one respectful bow. She did not say anything, but simply agreed. The other elderly lady did the same: she made one respectful bow, and all of the crew, in moderate genuflection, agreed.

Well, I will say something to you: I thought that they were going to pull me by my ears, because it was terrible for a poor devil like me to give an answer to people who travel from galaxy to galaxy, but I did it. I did it, my answer worked, and that cheered me…

Of course, I resolved to take the best advantage of such assent. Thus, I said to myself, “Well, this is the moment,” thus, I returned to reiterate my request to be taken to another planet of the infinite space, in order to give testimony to the people about the reality of other inhabited planets…

“I am writer,” I said to them. “And it is not for me, it is for this humanity; take me…” To no avail. My requests were worthless.

The silence was terrible. Finally, the captain pronounced a phrase, nothing but that, because they speak little and they say much. They never utter the word if they are not going to fulfill it. They are not like us; i.e. we tend to say to a friend, “Tomorrow we will meet in the morning at nine in the café so that we can converse about the business,” and the friend does not arrive, and if he arrives, he appears around ten, or eleven, or twelve…

So, those people speak little and say much. It seems as if those personages were truly Gods with human bodies (they gave me that impression when conversing with them)…

Thus, I obtained an answer, and as soon as they gave it to me, it is clear that I was satisfied, “Along the way,” said the captain, “we will see…” Nothing more, that was the only thing that he said to me, but that for me was definitive. If an Earthling had said the same to me, I would simply have considered those words like an escape, like an evasion, for example as when one asks a job, and they say to you, “We will consider you when there is a vacancy.” When receiving such an Earthling-answer, one feels like leaving, running five hundred kilometers per hour, since we can be sure that we have failed in the request…

Yet, I was not conversing with Earthlings, but extraterrestrials. “Along the way, we will see.” Which “way” was that captain talking about? The esoteric path of initiation, the path that I am following, and that many are following; the path that leads to the Superman: that straight, narrow, and difficult path of which the Christ speaks, that mysterious path tread by Dante, Hermes Trismegistus, or Jesus of Nazareth. I follow such a path; therefore, the words of that captain filled me with strength.

Well, he gave me his hand (his right hand), then he boarded the ship by a stairway. Also, those of the crew boarded. I comprehended that I should withdraw, thus, I did so. I did not want in any way that my body be instantaneously disintegrated by the force of that ship. Thus, I withdrew a certain distance so that I could observe, through the trees, the moment in which the ship took off. It raised slowly, until a certain point, and soon it hurried through the infinite space, without making any type of noise...

I assure you that I am giving a testimony about people who already conquered space, about the extraterrestrials.

I have come here to tell you the truth and nothing but the truth. I have not come to give false testimonies, because with that I would not gain anything, nor would you gain anything; I would deceive myself and I would commit the absurd crime of deceiving my fellowmen. I am giving you a testimony of the truth, of what concerns me about the extraterrestrials. If you believe me, wonderful; if you do not believe me, it does not matter to me. If you laugh, well, that is your business, yet in any case, Victor Hugo in one of his works stated, “The one who laughs at what he does not know is an ignoramus who walks on the path of idiocy.” So, I give my testimony; the rest is up to you.

Yes, there exist other people who already conquered outer space, and who are not Earthlings. They are people who come from other densely populated planets. It is urgent to comprehend that those people—who already conquered the infinite space—do not have vices. They do not drink, they do not smoke, they do not fornicate, they do not adulterate, they do not rob, they do not kill. They are perfect, in the most complete sense of the word… Thus, I say to myself and to you, thinking aloud now: Have we, Earthlings, such merits? Are we worthy to conquer infinite space? And if we could attain it, what would be our conduct on other inhabited worlds? Are we sure that we are not going to go and drink there, to get drunk, to adulterate, etc.? Are we so perfect that we believe we are capable of conquering infinite space?

Now then, I understand that those cosmic ships are multidimensional. It seems to me that the three dimensions—length, width, and height—are not everything. Euclid’s three-dimensional geometry has been abundantly discussed. I.e. this table has length, width, and height, it has three dimensions, but there must be a fourth vertical in this table. What would it be? I say that this is time: how long has it been since this table was fabricated? Behold the fourth vertical there.

Indubitably, the fifth coordinate also exists; I understand that it is eternity.

And beyond the fifth dimension, there must exist the sixth, that is to say, a dimension that is not time, neither eternity, nor the three-dimensional world. The fifth coordinate is eternity, the fourth is time, but what would the sixth be, and the seventh? The sixth is beyond eternity and time, yet, as far as the seventh, it is the dimension zero, unknowable (pure Spirit, we would say).

Indubitably, there must be seven basic, fundamental dimensions. However, while we base our existence on the three-dimensional dogma of Euclid, we will remain in a regressive, retarded state… At the present time, modern physics is retarded, regressive, antiquated, old fashioned, because it is exclusively based on the three fundamental basic dimensions, of Euclid’s three-dimensional dogma.

Extraterrestrial ships are based on a different geometry. I say that a tetra-dimensional geometry must be created; this would be possible if we more thoroughly investigate the atom. Obviously, it is in the atom where the fourth vertical is drawn up.

The day in which we can draw up the fourth vertical on paper, we will be capable then to also create a tetra-dimensional geometry. With a geometry like that, we could then build ships of four dimensions, ships able to travel in time, now to a remote past, now to a remote future. With ships like that, we could conquer the infinite space. Regrettably, we cannot create those types of ships yet.

In order to travel to Mars in a nuclear rocket, we will take about two years, and according to the explanations of those extraterrestrials that I met in “El Desierto de los Leones” I understood that in less, in a matter of minutes, they are on Mars—for them Mars is “just there,” at the corner store, so to speak—and it is because they put their ships within the fourth vertical. Their ships are propelled by solar energy, and this is wonderful.

Nevertheless, we Earthlings needed to send rockets equipped with liquid fuel, and our astronauts performed fifty thousand acrobatics in order to land on the Moon. However, extraterrestrials do not need such acrobatics, since for them the Moon is “just there.” Therefore, I do not see why we have to feel so proud of our so-boasted modern civilization.

I invite you to comprehend that we Earthlings are nothing but embryos, and that our so-boasted modern civilization is not really that worthy. I invite you to thoroughly comprehend this subject of the conquest of interplanetary space.

It is necessary to analyze, it is necessary to study. It is necessary to comprehend that if we want the conquest of infinite space, we must begin to study ourselves, because the laws of the cosmos are within us, ourselves, here and now. If we do not discover the laws of the cosmos within us, we will never discover them outside of us.

The human being is contained within Nature, and Nature is contained within the human being. Therefore, if we want to conquer infinite space, we must begin to conquer ourselves.

At the present time, we are victims of circumstances. We have not learned how to handle the diverse circumstances of life. We still do not know how to determine circumstances. We are toys of all the forces of the universe.

We live in a convulsing world, a world that is going to pass through great catastrophes. Earthquakes are coming. They have been walking across America from south to north. One day, Chile is affected by great earthquakes and tidal waves; later Caracas, followed by Colombia. Nicaragua was shaken, followed by Honduras, and in Guatemala, earthquakes just happened. It is necessary to know that soon all of our cities in Mexico will be shaken by earthquakes.

San Francisco, California is called to disappear. There is a fault at the foot of the California peninsula that has already been studied. It is a deep crack that has already begun to devour California little by little. Obviously, California will sink to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean.

We live, then, in a world that is threatened by great convulsions, and the psychological state in which we are, and that of our civilization, etc., deserves to be reflected upon by us a little.

The bottoms of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans are full of deep cracks. In the Pacific, mainly, there are some cracks that are so deep that they already put the fire in contact with the water. The water of the ocean penetrates within the interior of the Earth in those zones where the liquid fire exists, thus this is forming pressure and steam that increase from moment to moment. The pressure and steam are originating earthquakes on a great scale, and all of you, distinguished gentlemen and ladies, are going to be convinced within a short time that there will be not a single place on the planet Earth where one can be safe.

The earthquakes and tidal waves must intensify, due to pressures and underground steam.

The ice of the North Pole is melting, and because icebergs float, they drift with water currents towards the equator into warmer water.

Hot currents of water are being produced at the South Pole. These currents are exiting through some craters. These hot water currents penetrate certain places of Guinea.

There are changes within the planet Earth, and if the pressures and steam continue, one day the terrestrial crust will erupt. There is no doubt that at the present time, any cosmic event, i.e. the arrival of some gigantic world, would be enough to produce such an explosion.

We are seated over a powder barrel, and we do not realize it. The Earth in its entirety is being prepared for formidable geologic changes. Thus, Nature at the moment is passing through difficult processes. Nature is experiencing a great agony. The fire of the interior of the Earth is uneasy.

Sadly, we, on the epidermis of this planet, believe we are very safe. We are raising powerful buildings, as if they will never fall to the ground. We build powerful ships, as if they will allow us to flee to other planets at any given moment. Yes, we feel like masters of the universe, yet regrettably, any stomachache is enough to put us in bed. Yes, we are weak, yet we believe ourselves to be invincible.

It seems to me that we must reflect upon what we are, upon what is happening, upon what is happening at this moment…

Two frightful world wars have occurred in this twentieth century: the world war from 1914 to 1918, and the world war from 1939 to 1945. And, there will be a third world war, and it will be atomic. Then, there will be a great holocaust: powerful cities will be reduced to ashes. Millions of people will perish. The gravest of all of this is that the abuse of atomic physics will take us to disaster.

A day will arrive on which the decomposition of the atom chain will occur, and then the scientists will not be able to control the atomic energy. There is no doubt that the radioactive contamination will be frightful; i.e. clouds loaded with radioactivity will pour over the harvests, contaminating them. Therefore, during the third world war we will no longer have the necessary food to eat, because the radioactivity will have contaminated the harvests completely. The contaminated food will be worthless for our nourishment.

At the rate that we are going, we should not feel very safe with a civilization that staggers, and we should not feel very safe with our theories, concepts, or ideas, either. It is worth the trouble for us to review everything we have learned in school, college, university, in books written by different writers.

I am not trying to attack any theory, no. I am only inviting all of you to reflection, and nothing else; this is the only goal of this lecture.

There is a law known as the law of universal entropy. If we take two full water kettles, one containing hot water and the other containing cold water, and we place them together, we will see in them a devolving disorder. Behold here, universal entropy.

If people do not work upon themselves, if they do not try to pass through a type of psychological revolution, if they do not modify their customs, their way of life and way of being, then they will march in accordance with the law of entropy. They will devolve over time, and a day will arrive in which there will be no difference between person and person. All of us will become terribly perverse.

As far as the planet Earth is concerned, we cannot deny that it is subject to the law of entropy. The atmosphere is completely contaminated, the seas have become enormous garbage containers, and many marine species are disappearing. Fish have died in the rivers. To find a river that is not contaminated is already difficult. The fruits of the Earth have been adulterated with grafting upon grafting. Now, it is difficult to eat a legitimate apple. Now we must eat “grafted apples”… All of this has altered the order of the universe, the order of Nature. Thus, there are soils that no longer produce.

At the moment, the globe has four thousand five hundred million people, and the food supply will not be of sufficient quantity to maintain so many people. In the coming years there will be millions of people who will die of hunger. Even at this moment, there are plenty of people who are perishing because of hunger.

Therefore, the Earth as a whole is perishing. It is progressing according to the law of universal entropy. The fields that once were cultivable, that bore fruits in abundance in order to maintain everybody, are now sterile. The experiments made with atomic energy and those chemical fertilizers have sterilized the fields. Everything moves in a devolving way.

At these moments, the Earth is in agony, and what is worse is that it is in agony and we do not realize that it is in agony. Obviously, if a person is in agony, we already know what will happen to him. Similarly, if our planet Earth is in agony, we must understand what will happen to it.

A day will come in which the Earth will become equalized everywhere, turned into a gigantic Sahara, or better said, turned into another moon of the infinite space.

Nevertheless, the wisdom of the creative Demiurge of the universe is magnificent. It is not irrelevant to emphatically tell you that transformation is only possible by means of sacrifice. I.e. if we did not sacrifice the coal in the steam engine, we would not have the steam-power to move the train. Similarly, we will say that by means of a great sacrifice, the transformation of the world will also be possible.

We know well that the axes of the Earth are rising up; the day on which the poles will become the equator is not distant. The day in which the equator will become poles is not distant, either. When this occurs, the seas will change their beds and will swallow the whole planet; there is no doubt that a great chaos will come…

Again, at this moment the ice of the North Pole is already melting. This is originating enormous hurricanes that are devastating entire cities and causing damage, as the hurricane that recently caused many terrible things and obliterated Honduras.

So, the icebergs are now moving towards the equatorial zone. No longer is the magnetic pole coinciding with the geographic pole. If at these moments an airplane takes off directly towards the North Pole, guided by a compass, and if it landed exactly on the magnetic pole, the pilots would find with astonishment that the geologic pole is no longer there: the geologic pole is rotating away; it is going towards the equator.

So the magnetic pole and the geologic pole no longer coincide. This causes the climates to change, starting with certain disorders in the seasons, mainly in the spring and summer. This causes the seas to rise from their bottoms, and this powerful civilization that we have created will be destroyed. What is gravest of all of this is that with it we will also be destroyed. We will also perish.

The ancestors of Anahuac said, “The Children of the Fifth Sun”—talking about us—“will perish by fire and earthquakes…” Now this is properly determined with the catastrophe in Guatemala (that, between parentheses, was very serious, since it not only trembled, but continues trembling in that unfortunate country, and the dead are increasing).

Therefore, this humanity will perish by fire and earthquakes, and finally will be definitively wiped from the face of the Earth, when the oceans leave their beds. Thus, after this tremendous and frightful sacrifice, someday from the midst of chaos, new continents will arise, where a new humanity will live. Virgil, the great poet of Mantua, said, “The Golden Age has arrived and a new progeny commands…”

Yes, we are so perverse that we brought about atomic wars, but the day will arrive in which a peaceful humanity will live on the face of the Earth, a humanity filled with love, an innocent and pure humanity, a beautiful and wise humanity.

So then, the planet Earth once emerged from the consciousness of that which is called God, from the ineffable divine, which is where we must return now. But until now, we have marched on the path of perversity, thus we will have to perish. But as Peter said in his Epistle to the Romans:

Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. - 2 Peter 3: 12, 13

There will be new heavens and a new Earth and in them also a new humanity will live.

Making reconsiderations on all of these principles, it is reasonable and worthwhile that we fight for a radical transformation. It is worth suffering the trouble to make a new man within us.

We do not know ourselves, and we need to know ourselves, since within us there are wonders that we do not know.

Somebody said to me the other day, “Sir, indeed I know myself.”

“It pleases me,” I responded to him, “that you know yourself, but answer the following question: how many atoms are in a single hair of your mustache?”

When asking him this question, he kept silent, and finally he exclaimed, “That, I do not know.”

I said to him, “If you do not even know how many atoms are in a single hair of your mustache, how do you dare to affirm with great emphasis that you know yourself in a totally integral manner?” The man remained confused.

Within us, there is something more than the physical body: there is a psychology that we must study. The physical body is not everything. You feel attracted towards your physicality. You know that you have a body of flesh and bones because you can touch it, because you can feel it, but scarcely can you admit that you have a psychology, because indeed it cannot be felt physically.

When somebody admits that he has his own psychological, particular, individual idiosyncrasy, in fact he begins to self-observe. Obviously, when somebody self-observes, he begins to become different from others, and has possibilities for changing.

A nucleus of people has to be saved from this humanity, people who will change, people who—ahead of time—will attain a psychological change. Such people will be helped and taken to a certain place in the Pacific Ocean, and thence they will contemplate the duel of the water and the fire over centuries. And finally, when new lands arise from the bottom of the oceans, those people that have changed will be able to live peacefully; they will become the nucleus of a future humanity.

We need to change, and we cannot change if we do not psychologically self-observe. For that reason I said that when somebody begins to self-observe psychologically, he provides hope for change, and to become a different person.

We need to self-observe our thinking, feeling, and acting.

It seems to me that psychological observation is not a crime. It seems to me that to attempt psychological change is not a crime.

The factors of discord that produce wars in the world exist within ourselves, within our persona. In these times, much is spoken about peace, i.e. Mussolini said, “Peace is an olive branch on the sharp edge of eleven million bayonets.” Behold his kind of words and concepts. The Italians executed him; they applied to him their famous “Italian vendetta,” giving him punches and kicks. Finally his corpse fell to the ground. A quite sadistic citizen, observing the corpse of “Il Duce” in the mud, exclaimed, “Il Duce has become a pig…”

Peace is not a matter of propaganda, pacifications, the UN, nor pro-peace armies, etc. Remember that the UN has sent armies to fight for peace. Do you believe that fighting for peace is peace? You yourselves are witnesses of the UN armies that have attacked other armies. The UN has bombed, has taken up the rifle. Do you believe that this is how one works for peace?

While the factors that produce wars continue to exist within us, there will always be wars in the world.

Fear is one of the main causes for world-wide armaments. If a man fears another man, he arms himself with a weapon, a pistol at his waist. Why? Because he fears the other. If he did not fear him, he would not carry a pistol.

If a nation loads itself to the teeth with weapons, if it acquires atomic bombs, ultramodern cannons, etc., it is because it fears that another nation will invade, it fears that another nation will attack.

Fear is the cause for many injustices to be committed. A man kills another because of fear. Fear for one’s life causes many to become thieves. Fear of hunger causes many women to prostitute themselves. Therefore, while the factors of fear, of fright, continue to exist within us, there have to be wars, prostitution, robbery, murders, etc.

If we want to fight for peace, we must end the factors that produce wars. Fear is one of them. Do we want peace? Well then, we must finish with egotism, since each one of us says, “First I, second me, and third, myself.” If such egotism is projected worldwide, if the nations say, “First I, second me, and third myself,” then there always will be conflicts of interests between country and country, and war will be unleashed.

Therefore, peace is not a matter of pacification, propaganda, nor of armies of peace, nor of the UN, nor of UNESCO, nor of OAS, since if the factors that produce wars continue to exist within us, there will always be wars in the world.

Peace is an ineffable atomic substance that is beyond good and evil, and that emerges from the abstract absolute space.

It is necessary that we explore ourselves in these moments of worldwide crises and bankruptcy of all principles. It is necessary that we observe ourselves psychologically.

At these moments in which the Earth is convulsed by earthquake upon earthquake, it is necessary that we reflect upon our present situation, about what we are, about what we project, about our thoughts, feelings, and actions.

Each of us here has a psychology, and this is not a matter of believing or not believing, but observation.

Anger that leads us to madness exists within us.

Covetousness also exists within us, and we not only covet but moreover, there are some who boast about themselves as being saints, thus they covet to not be covetous.

Within us is lust that turns us into true beasts.

There is also envy within us, which has become the means of social action, because if we see that someone has a pretty, ultramodern, and flaming car, we envy him and desire to have a car like that, or even better. If we see that a friend of ours has bought a pretty house and also has a beautiful spouse, we envy our friend and desire to have a house better than our friend’s.

And, if we want to boast about being virtuous, we affirm, “No, I do not covet, I am content with what I have: bread, shelter, and refuge, and that is all,” even if the desire of conquering fame, honors, prestige, money, etc., is burning within us.

Pride is corroding our heart, thus each of us has our particular, individual pride. We love ourselves too much and that is very grave.

There are many sluggish gluttons—piles and piles—but we believe that we are not sluggish nor gluttonous, but “holy little saints.”

The crude reality of the facts is that within us we have negative values that lead us to failure in these moments of world-wide crises and bankruptcy of all principles, in these precise moments in which the third world war approaches.

I say that each one of the psychological defects that we have in our interior is like a demon or a tenebrous entity. When one reads the four Gospels, we find a verse in which it is emphatically affirmed that the great Kabir, Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, cast seven demons from the body of Mary Magdalene. Behold the seven capital sins. If they are multiplied by seven, and many thousands of sevens, then what the great Kabir threw from the body of Mary Magdalene was a legion.

Virgil, the great poet of Mantua, said:

No, not if I had a hundred mouths, a hundred tongues, and throats of brass, inspired with iron lungs, I could not half those my horrid crimes describe, nor half the punishments those crimes have met. - The Aeneid, book six

Therefore, the Christic Gospel is correct when affirming that each of us is a legion.

If we affirm in a clear and precise manner that the “I” is not something individual, but that it is a plurality, we would not be exaggerating. Within each person there exists the pluralized “I”, i.e. I envy, I love, I hate, I am afraid, I am lustful, I have egotism, etc.

All of this multiplicity exists within us, here and now.

We are speaking of the field of revolutionary psychology. We are affirming that within us are multiple psychological entities, and this is already properly documented. It is properly documented in all the contradictions that we have in our own mind. As soon we are affirming one thing, soon we are denying it. Our mind is like the weather. We are full of psychological acrobatics; we never keep the same opinion. Therefore, from where emerge so many psychological contradictions?

The brain is nothing but the instrument of the mind. The brain is not the mind. It is made in order to elaborate thought, but it is not thought. Therefore, let us delve thoroughly: from where do so many psychological contradictions come? Obviously, they come from the plurality of the “I.”

If we state that each one of our “I’s” has the three brains—namely the intellectual, emotional, and motor brains—we would not exaggerate. In other terms, we would say: in the same manner that the three-dimensional space of Euclid exists, likewise psychological spaces exist within each person. There is no doubt that the psychological multiplicity that flourishes in us is a reality within psychological space.

Nevertheless, ordinary physical senses are not capable of perceiving psychological space, but other senses can. The sense of psychological self-observation can perceive that space. Regrettably, the sense of psychological self-observation is atrophied. Yet, while we observe ourselves from moment to moment, we are able to develop that sense. When this occurs, the multiplicity of the “I” will be a reality for us; we will see it, and we will also intelligently perceive the psychological space.

So, each of us is a legion, and we have our consciousness extremely asleep. The intellectual humanoid is not capable of seeing, feeling, or touching the great realities of psychological space. We need to awaken our consciousness, because our consciousness is bottled up, inserted within all of those “I”s that in their whole constitute the self-willed, the myself, the itself.

We need to disintegrate those “I”s that personify our errors, and that is possible by means of psychological self-observation. It is in the field of practical life, i.e. in the factory, in the office, in the house, in the street, or in the market, or wherever we can discover ourselves. When in relation with people, the defects that we carry hidden spontaneously emerge, and if we are alert and vigilant as a watchman in the time of war, then we see them.

Once a defect is discovered, we must severely judge it by means of the superlative analysis of the Being. Any discovered defect must be studied and later disintegrated.

Obviously, the mind cannot radically alter any defect. The mind can justify this or that error, change it, pass it from one department to another of our understanding, justify it or condemn it, but never disintegrate it.

We need a power that is superior to the mind, a power capable of annihilating any defect. Fortunately, such a power is latent within the depth of the human anatomy. I am emphatically referring to the astral signature of fire. In a clear manner I am emphatically referring to God-Mother, the principle of love, the Eternal Feminine Divine. I am in a clear manner addressing the Divine Mother Kundalini Shakti, Stella Maris or the Virgin of the Sea, Tonantzin, Rhea, Mary, Cybele, Adonia, Insoberta, Diana, etc.

God-Mother underlies in the depths of our own Being. It is a flaming power that only the Initiate with the sense of the psychological self-observation can perceive. Thus, if we appeal to that igneous and divine power—which is a variant of our own Being; God-Mother is our Being but a derivative—we can then totally disintegrate any psychological defect that we had previously comprehended in all the levels of our mind.

It would be enough to cry out, as when a child cries out to his mother because he is hungry or thirsty. Yes, it would be enough to beg to our Devi Kundalini Shakti for the disintegration of any previously comprehended “I”-defect; thus this is how it could be reduced to cosmic dust, to ashes, thus the consciousness that is bottled up within the “I”-defect would be liberated. By means of this procedure we could disintegrate all the “I”s-defects and liberate the totality of the superlative consciousness of the Being.

A liberated, emancipated consciousness is capable of seeing, touching, or feeling the great realities of the psychological space. A liberated consciousness is beyond the mind, and can perfectly discover the reality of all the phenomena that happen in the universe.

I want you to know that there are three types of mind. We can denominate the first one as “Sensual Mind,” which develops its basic concepts via external sensory perceptions. This mind knows nothing about psychological space; it knows nothing about reality, God, etc.

Mr. Emmanuel Kant, the philosopher of Königsberg, wrote a book entitled Critique of Pure Reason. Kantian thought, with all its syllogisms, pro-syllogisms, quasi-syllogisms, etc., is formidable. With Critique of Pure Reason, Mr. Emmanuel Kant demonstrated to the world that the Sensual Mind cannot know anything about reality, about the truth, about God, etc., since it develops its basic concepts via external sensory perceptions. Therefore, it cannot know anything about the truth.

Now, there is a second type of mind. I am referring to the Intermediate Mind, where all dogmas, religious beliefs, etc. are deposited. Everyone is utterly free to believe in whatever they wish, therefore, we, Gnostics, would never pronounce ourselves whatsoever against other people’s beliefs. We know how to respect our neighbor’s religion and all religions, because we consider that all religions are like precious pearls linked on the golden thread of divinity. Nevertheless, religious beliefs are not direct perception of the truth, either. The Sun exists whether we believe in it or do not believe in it. The Earth will rotate around the Sun whether we believe it or not. The fire will burn our finger each time that we put it within the flame, whether we believe it or not. Therefore, what we believe or stop believing is not the truth.

Fortunately, there is a third mind, the Inner Mind, which is beyond the Intermediate Mind. If the Sensual Mind works based on its external sensory perceptions, then indeed, the Inner Mind works with the precise perceptions of the superlative and transcendental consciousness of the Being. Therefore, the awakened consciousness can know the phenomena of Nature in a direct, complete, integral, and unitotal manner, and thereafter transmit such data to the Inner Mind. Therefore, the Inner Mind knows about reality by means of the data transmitted by the superlative consciousness of the Being. Thus, the Inner Mind knows about the mysteries of life and death; it knows the origin of life. It discovers what the ignorant Sensual Mind cannot.

The Inner Mind knows from where we come, to where we go, and what the objective of existence is, etc. The Sensual Mind cannot know the phenomena of Nature in themselves. I.e. we see a flower, a carnation. The Sensual Mind says, “It is a carnation,” but who told the Sensual Mind that this is the name of that flower? The Sensual Mind learned it at school, or it was taught to us at home or by other people. But, are we sure that this is the true name of this flower? This is how they taught it to us, okay, but what authority do they who put that name to this flower have? What is the true name of that flower? Are we perhaps the masters of the universal wisdom who know the name that the Divine Architect gave to this flower?

In the Inner Mind, everything changes. Thus, we say, “The true name of this flower is such-and-such, its components are such-and-such.”

At school, at college, at the university, the chemical formula of this flower was delivered to us, thus we see in this flower the formula that they placed in our memory, but we are not seeing the flower, we are not seeing its true name, we are just seeing what they taught us, we are placing on the flower what we learned at school, at college, at the university, but we are not seeing the flower.

To see it is different. For this we must be open to the new, so that the flower can speak to us. If we want to know it, we must place ourselves in a receptive state. But, we are proud. We believe we are greater than the flower, thus we name it in this or that manner, and we say, “This is a carnation, and its chemical formula is this,” because this is how they taught us at school. But we are not seeing the flower.

The consciousness can indeed see the flower and know its real name in the cosmos. The consciousness can know its true functionalism and its real elements. The consciousness can transmit that data to the Inner Mind, and the Inner Mind can comprehend it.

Regrettably, at the present time with our Sensual Mind, the only thing that we do is to project our ideas and concepts onto phenomena. With the Sensual Mind, nobody can learn the phenomena of the Nature and the cosmos, because life flows incessantly, and when we want to retain it—even for a moment—we kill it. Thus, only with the awakened consciousness expressed through the Inner Mind can we know for ourselves the phenomena in themselves, here and now!

There are two types of science: profane science and pure science. In pure science, theories do not exist, only facts. I.e. if I said to you that Count Saint Germaine, who lived in the fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth, eighteenth, nineteenth, etc., centuries, is still alive, you would believe that I am crazy, but nonetheless, I know count Saint Germaine and this is why I give testimony that he is alive. He lives based on a science that you do not know. This is the pure science, the science of the Superman, a science known by the extraterrestrials who travel throughout the infinite space, the science of the lords of life and death, the science of those who have opened the Inner Mind.

We are nothing but a part of the universal knowledge, and that is all. Yet, we can awaken our consciousness by destroying the undesirable elements that we carry within, thus transforming ourselves radically, so that we can become Supermen in the most complete sense of the word.

Now, at these moments of worldwide crises and bankruptcy of all principles, in these moments of terrible earthquakes and tsunamis, it is worthwhile that we explore ourselves. It is worthwhile that we try a psychological change, a radical transformation. It is worthwhile that we rise up in arms against all antiquated and extemporaneous concepts. It is worthwhile that we become true psychological revolutionaries, that we become true intelligent rebels capable of initiating a new civilization and a new culture…

Cosmic ShipsThis chapter is from Cosmic Ships (1955) by Samael Aun Weor.