The Infiltration of New Age Movement

starninja wrote:



I have been only watching him for 15 minutes and my intuition was screaming loudly.
I wouldn't trust him at all.

The same here...

Very interesting video that wraps it nicely. The ultimate mind control, a created enemy, a fake alien invasion


PS my consideration is, if the Aliens wanted to contact us, no one could stop them they will make themselves visible without the need of any goverment. This is a new age deception

starninja wrote:

Andromeda wrote:
Mmy consideration is, if the Aliens wanted to contact us, no one could stop them they will make themselves visible without the need of any goverment. This is a new age deception

Absolutely! I couldn't say it better.
We are waking up, aren't we?

It seems so

This video about Madam Blavastky, Aleister Crowley, White Brotherhood and the Nazis is not recomended for those that wish to keep the idea of a bening White Brotherhood

The notion that the New Age Movement has been infiltrated is a partially errenous one. There is a lot of unacademic stuff written about this on the internet. The British Empire, a bastion of the Illuminati took a good battering from Blavatsky and Beasant, leading figures in the Theosophical movement.

Blavatsky was a constant thorn in the side of British imperialism. Opening schools for buddhism, the indigenous religion in Ceylon in particular irritated the British Christian Missionaries. Beasant was highly influential in the Home Rule movement for Indian self governance and Independence from the British Empire. She was also influential in the womens sufferage movement in the UK. Early theosophists were also instrumental in Anti vivesectionism and prevention of cruelty to animals. None of the above seem particularly satanic to me. Yes, they were both invited to co-masonry but they were very astute women and knew they could spread their work through the highly influential lodges. Not all masons are satanic evil buggers. The later bastardisations of Theosophy that flourished in the United States known as the I Am movement and its offspring have become interesting phenomena as 'new religions' and the study of their origins and development is interesting however, I personally would not waste my time with them.

Also, to speak of an entity known as the 'new age movement' is errorneous as no such thing exists. Just as there is no such thing as Hinduism. Hinduism is a collective term for differing religious and philosophical schools existing in the sub continent of India. Like wise the so called New Age movement is a gross generalistaion for highly differing spritual and philosophical outlooks. It is not a singular entity and by its nature cannot be manipulated for an agenda. There are too many schisms in the movement for it to be united.

Interestingly, some say that channellers are being mind controlled by satellite technology. There have been channellers since biblical times. In a way, Blavatsky and other victorian era mystics were channellers. I was just wondering what satellite technology was in place to manipulate their minds back in the good old days?. I suggest rather it is the plan of the illumimati to discredit the ancient wisdom and the philosophy of the east traditions as they pose a threat to them.

There is no evidence to indicate Hitler was interested in Blavatsky. In fact one of the first things he did was to ban all occult groups.

Note that the White Brotherhood is a faction of the Ashtarian Collective or is supposedly in League with It.

The Ashtarian Collective was taken over by Negatives Who developed within It and as far as I have been able to find out - Have also been referred to in the past as the Gizeh Intelligence...

In fact - One of the Missions of this Shift is to take the Ashtarian Collective back to a Christ Conscious State as They were upon Inception. I even became a Member of that Group Online - Stating that I - Among others - Were there to take It back...

Lets just say that went over well (LOL), but how can You get rid of a Member - Who IS Christ Conscious ?

This is still a dilema for Them and one They'll never solve. They were never meant to anyways. That said - I must return there soon to stimulate the Membership as I haven't been there in over a Year now...

Thanks for reminding Me...

starninja wrote:Thank you, Andromeda. We love this, don't we? I read that Hitler kept The Secret Doctrine beside of his bed.

OMG of course! all these Aryan things makes sense now they do go together like a new religion

Great Star, thanks

Mercuriel wrote:Note that the White Brotherhood is a faction of the Ashtarian Collective or is supposedly in League with It.

The Ashtarian Collective was taken over by Negatives Who developed within It and as far as I have been able to find out - Have also been referred to in the past as the Gizeh Intelligence...

In fact - One of the Missions of this Shift is to take the Ashtarian Collective back to a Christ Conscious State as They were upon Inception. I even became a Member of that Group Online - Stating that I - Among others - Were there to take It back...

Lets just say that went over well (LOL), but how can You get rid of a Member - Who IS Christ Conscious ?

This is still a dilema for Them and one They'll never solve. They were never meant to anyways. That said - I must return there soon to stimulate the Membership as I haven't been there in over a Year now...

Thanks for reminding Me...

This is veeeeeery interesting Mercuriel, do you think Kerry Cassidy is part of the Gizeh Intelligence, she seems to be supporting them

Well - I can't be sure but what I can say is that One doesn't take a Forum down and then call It supporting Free Speech after having done so. For that reason the Thuban Thread was Gem in that It showed Us true'er colors than We were seeing up to that point...



That said - Polarisms make Me think of Negatives and so when Polarity is displayed - Even though it may not be of a Negative Impetus - It DOES show a need for more Soul growth in this Incarnation for an exhibitor of such behaviour.

That said - To be in the Lead of an Initiative such as K & B were over at PC/PA Version 1 - And then to have displayed the Polarisms We saw in the takedown of PC/PA Version 1 between the two of Them - It was obviously time to leave Them to Their own lessons and so I misted Myself and came over here.

Simply put - All I can offer K or even B as advice when dealing with the Gizeh Intelligence / White Brotherhood / Ashtarian Collective - Is be very wary and Discern. Things can change even for these Groups but I still say - Be very wary...

I would like to briefly remind people of this fact .
This is just my guess , but I have rarely heard of known people such as K or B , for example or many other personalities that appeared in interview being harassed and monitored by the secret services ..... I witnessed with my own eye during the conference in Zurich " B " in deep conversation with a chap that during lunch was part of a group mobbing and surrounding us . We noticed a lot of spies in the audience in those days ....
My question is this : how come that those people supposedly spilling to the public some information that the common folk is not supposed to know , are not followed , monitored, harassed and subjected to spy-op , but we ( my wife and I ) are ?
Please do not misunderstand , I am not blowing my own trumpet , I would dearly love to know the answer . So I can only come to the conclusion that the INFILTRATION is deeper than people could think .

We already know the answer to that.

One follows someone or something They want to keep and eye on. With TPTB - This means that when They don't follow someone or harass Them - They're not a Threat to Them or Their Agenda(s)...

When They do follow and harass Someone - They're a Threat to Them and Their Agenda(s)...

That said - We can make Our own conclusions from that point forward right ?

Here's another video series which is relevant to this thread. Forgive me if it has already been linked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0U8aA7vEM

[http://www.themistsofavalon.net/inspirations-f34/the-infiltration-of-new-age-movement-ii-t1142.htm

I dont think there is any evidence around that proves there is a link betwen Hiter, The Secret Doctrine and Occultism in General.
As I stated in a few posts above, Hitler in fact, banned all occult groups. Some members of his Nazi party were influenced by Guido Von List's frorm of Nordic Volkish Aryanism and Jorg Lanz von Leibenfells anti sematic Ostara magazine. Neither of these have any link to the Theosophical Society but they both bastardised theosophy as a subject. Hitler may have been interested in the superior Germanic and anti sematic aspect of the various occult groups extant in pre World War Two Germany but he was first and foremost an anti semite and a socialist. The sensationalist videos, books and amateur researching like to portray a link between Hitler and the Occult but there really isnt one apart from some of his cohorts being a little obsessed with it.

Is there a natural affinity between fascism and the occult? Today commentators and historians increasingly speak of occultist and pagan influences on Hitler. The subject is a favorite of cable-television documentaries. It has even spawned a subgenre of historical literature, ranging from the speculative to the serious, that casts the Third Reich as an occult empire....

But the following cannot be stated clearly enough: Hitler was not an occultist. He contemptuously dismissed the work of fascist theorists who dwelled upon mythology and mystico-racial theories. In Mein Kampf, he specifically condemned "volkisch wandering scholars" -- that is, second tier mythically and mystically inclined intellects who might have belonged to occult-nationalist groups, such as the Thule Society, with which the Nazis shared symbols. From the earliest stirrings of Hitler's career in the tiny Germany Workers' Party and its street-rabble allies, he was consumed with brutal political and military organization, not theology or myth. He employed a symbol as a party vehicle when necessary and immediately discarded the flotsam around it, whether people or ideas. He castigated those members of his inner circle who showed excessive devotion to Nordic mythology, dismissing the theology of Nazi theorist Alfred Rosenberg as "stuff that nobody can understand" and a "relapse into medieval notions!"

from Occult America by Mitch Horowitz


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Historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, who has done more than any other scholar to clarify these issues, noted that:

Hitler was certainly interested in Germanic legends and mythology, but he never wished to pursue their survival in folklore, customs, or place-names. He was interested in neither heraldry nor genealogy. Hitler's interest in mythology was related primarily to the ideals and deeds of heroes and their musical interpretation in the operas of Richard Wagner. Before 1913 Hitler's utopia was mother Germany across the border rather than a prehistoric golden age indicated by the occult interpretation of myths and traditions in Austria.

Under the Nazi regime, Theosophical chapters, Masonic lodges, and even sects that had produced some of the occult pamplets that a young Hitler may have encountered as a Vienna knock-about were shunted or savagely oppressed, their members murdered or harassed. Despite astrology's well-publicized appeal to a few of Hitler's cadre, the ancient practice was effectively outlawed under Nazism, and many of its practitioners were jailed or killed. The man sometimes mislabeled "Hitler's astrologer," Karl Ernst Krafft, had no contact with Hitler but briefly reached the attention of mid-level Reich officials for predicting the 1939 assassination attempt on him. Krafft later died en route to Buchenwald. Nazi authorities sentenced Karl Germer, the German protege of British occultist Aleister Crowley, to a concentration camp on charges of
recruiting students for Crowley, whom they styled a "high-grade Freemason.


from wikipedia
Adolf Hitler and Ariosophy (That is the Religion of Guido Von List)

[b]Hitler's contact to Lanz von Liebenfels makes it necessary to examine how far his religious views were influenced by Ariosophy, an esoteric movement in Germany and Austria that flourished from the 1890s to the 1920s. (Whether Ariosophy is to be classified as Germanic paganism or Occultism is a different question.) The seminal work on Ariosophy, The Occult Roots of Nazism by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, devotes its last chapter the topic of Ariosophy and Adolf Hitler. Not at least due to the difficulty of sources, historians disagree about the importance of Ariosophy for Hitler's religious views. As noted in the foreword of The Occult Roots of Nazism by Rohan Butler, Goodrick-Clarke is more cautious in assessing the influence of Lanz von Liebenfels on Hitler than Joachim Fest in his biography of Hitler.[79] A Hitler biography by John Toland that appeared in 1992 reprints a poem that Hitler allegedly wrote while serving in the German Army on the Western Front in 1915.[80] This poem includes references to magical runes and the pre-Christian Germanic deity Woden, but it is mentioned neither by Goodrick-Clarke nor by Fest.

While he was in power, Hitler was definitely less interested in the occult or the esoteric than other Nazi leaders. Unlike Heinrich Himmler and Rudolf Hess, for example, Hitler had no interest in astrology. Nevertheless, Hitler is the most important figure in the Modern Mythology of Nazi occultism. There are teledocumentaries about this topic, with the titles Hitler and the Occult and Hitler's Search for the Holy Grail.[81]

Comparing him to Erich von Ludendorff, Fest writes: "Hitler had detached himself from such affections, in which he encountered the obscurantism of his early years, Lanz v. Liebenfels and the Thule Society, again, long ago and had, in Mein Kampf, formulated his scathing contempt for that völkish romanticism, which however his own cosmos of imagination preserved rudimentarily."[82]

The notion that Theosophy and Nazism are the same is a falsehood

Thank you Starninja and orthodoxymoron for the vids, I have my work cut out lol

I think the biggest lesson for me in all of this madness - is to just keep researching - in a detached and unemotional manner - rather than latching onto anything in particular. The human race will probably be engaged in an infowar forever. I just hope that this will be a cold war. Violence is so old school...

starninja wrote:
It is clear why Eastern religion and New Age version is so focused on cutting us from our feelings and emotions. I sense that there is something very important I still don't know that is connected with emotions and our hearts.

Having studied Indian religious philosophy at university I think it is a nonsense to say its purpose is to cut us from our emotions. Like wise, the notion that the so called new age movement is being manipulated to form a new world religion cutting us off from our emotions is also a nonsense. The gems of eastern wisdom help us to understand ourselves and not cut us off. There is no agenda to them whatsoever. Blavatsky helped tp bring about a change in the way organised religion ie, Christianity was controlling and helped to bring about a sea change in the way westerners viewed the world and our place in the universe. The sensionalist, unacademic and poorly researched videos populating this thread are not to be taken seriously IMO. In fact,if the so called new age movement has been infiltrated, it is to put us off such philosophies as they are psycologically liberating.

Aleister Crowley was certainly a dubious individual but his biographies are an intersting read to say the least.

Blavatsky was the daughter of an aristocratic German general who financed her travels, although there is no evidence that she ever traveled to Tibet. There are no tickets, or any photos that indicated she was ever in Tibet

Other strange fact is that she was part of the Golden Dawn freemason lodge and one is to ask, how a woman in late 19th century was allowed to enter, yet alone be member, of such lodge? When here in Britain women were treated like "wards" or children and did not even had the right to hold their own money?...My conclusions after reading a lot about the subject are that either she was a powerful sorcerer (like John Dee = 007) or she had very hight level connections with the Royal Family

Either way, what is good for the illuminati is not good for us. In case no one knows, we are being demised by them and their very dark plans for humanity

Hitler was heavily influenced by Blavatsky and so was Alister Crowley. Both perhaps the most evil men of the 20th century, it makes you wonder what did they learned from her teachings that persuade them that being evil is ok. It is a fascinating subject

Information about the family trees of both Blavatsky and Crowley is readily available on the internet. Crowley himself came from a well to do family and studied in Trinity college Cambridge, a rare privilege in his time where university studies were only for the upper classes