Messengers of Deception

mudra wrote:Very glad you posted this one of Jacques Vallée Floyd.
I have got Forbidden Science of him on my Shelf to read as well.

Thank You

 

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mudra

In May 1955, Vallée first sighted an unidentified flying object over his Pontoise home. Six years later in 1961, while working on the staff of the French Space Committee, Vallée witnessed the destruction of the tracking tapes of an unknown object orbiting the earth. The particular object was a retrograde satellite – that is, a satellite orbiting the earth in the opposite direction to the earth's rotation. At the time he observed this, there were no rockets powerful enough to launch such a satellite, so the team was quite excited as they assumed that the Earth's gravity had captured a natural satellite (asteroid). A superior came and erased the tape. These events contributed to Vallée's long-standing interest in the UFO phenomenon.

In the mid-1960s, like many other UFO researchers, Vallée initially attempted to validate the popular Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (or ETH). Leading UFO researcher Jerome Clark argues that Vallée's first two UFO books were among the most scientifically sophisticated defenses of the ETH ever mounted.

However, by 1969, Vallée's conclusions had changed, and he publicly stated that the ETH was too narrow and ignored too much data. Vallée began exploring the commonalities between UFOs, cults, religious movements, demons, angels, ghosts, cryptid sightings, and psychic phenomena. Speculation about these potential links were first detailed in Vallée's third UFO book, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers.

As an alternative to the extraterrestrial visitation hypothesis, Vallée has suggested a multidimensional visitation hypothesis. This hypothesis represents an extension of the ETH where the alleged extraterrestrials could be potentially from anywhere. The entities could be multidimensional beyond space-time, and thus could coexist with humans, yet remain undetected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vall%C3%A9e

Vallee has given proof that the secret governments (or whatever you want to call them) and other power hungry humans have appropriated the UFO phenomenon to serve their own aims

Im afraid we are alone.  There are no aliens.

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6627p135-where-s-the-proof-the-anunaki-are-reptilians-who-said-that-why-and-what-is-their-agenda#95913

Floyd wrote:I would say that that there are no aliens.
Humans are adept at creating religious archetypes however.
They have to believe in something after all.
Aliens or gods.
I understand people have to objectify things they cannot possibly understand.
Alien religion is just like any another religion.
Waiting for hope from the skies that never will come.

Sanicle wrote:

Floyd wrote:I would say that that there are no aliens.
Humans are adept at creating religious archetypes however.
They have to believe in something after all.
Aliens or gods.
I understand people have to objectify things they cannot possibly understand.
Alien religion is just like any another religion.
Waiting for hope from the skies that never will come.

Apart from the first line of your statement........that there are no aliens..........I agree with you Floyd.  And Vallee pointed that out very succinctly also in 'Messengers of Deception'.  I wish more people would pay attention to that very important point as I think that, just as the PTW can recognize it, so can any ETs who may be visiting. In fact anyone who wants power and/or attention can work this to serve their own ends, for good or ill, and do.

Sanicle wrote:

Floyd wrote:I would say that that there are no aliens.
Humans are adept at creating religious archetypes however.
They have to believe in something after all.
Aliens or gods.
I understand people have to objectify things they cannot possibly understand.
Alien religion is just like any another religion.
Waiting for hope from the skies that never will come.

Apart from the first line of your statement........that there are no aliens..........I agree with you Floyd.  And Vallee pointed that out very succinctly also in 'Messengers of Deception'.  I wish more people would pay attention to that very important point as I think that, just as the PTW can recognize it, so can any ETs who may be visiting. In fact anyone who wants power and/or attention can work this to serve their own ends, for good or ill, and do.

Floyd wrote:
It is of course impossible for anyone to say there is no life out there apart from us. If there is though we have not yet experienced it.
Perhaps some have been manipulated to think they have within the constraints of the ufo/alien religious archetypes and experience.
I understand that many defend their alien religion with the same gusto a muslim, jew or scientologist would defend their own religion.

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v6/115

Now would Lord Sananda please send me a temporal kitchen sink!  

I'm tired of doing dishes on my knees during the remodel!

Sanicle wrote:
Please remember to double-check with your own inner feelings to be 100% sure that every creed they give you to follow, that you are augmenting with your own beliefs, is in harmony with your own heart and sense of rightness.  

You are denigrating your own Soul's light........AND ability to teach you what's right for YOU.......... if you give your belief to anything or anyone based on what they've told you to believe without questioning it within, regardless of who they are and what others would have you believe, and whether the main body of their teaching seems to ring true to you.

Ultimately, when we're done with this life, we'll need to answer only for what we've done with our life, the beliefs we've acted on and created from.  I doubt that saying, "Oh, if I made a mistake, it's his/her fault, because they told me what to believe."

If ufos were real we would have all seen one by now.
Not just a few reports here and there.

Floyd why do you have to keep harping on about alien religions on this site (not just this thread)?

If ufos were real we would have all seen one by now.
Not just a few reports here and there.
Of course there will allways be 'military reports' lol.

Now beam me up will ya!