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Mandela Effect and the dawn of the parallel universe
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Years back Mercurial and I remembered time line shifts where our memories of certain events were different then what is going on in the present. There was some excellent videos on this as well and I believe the time-traveler videos cover some of these time shift changes as well.
I also had a friend who was a contactee who told me that the ETs where also responsible for some of the time-line shifts although we also are aware that the secret government has been partly to blame as well.
I've noticed over the years that when a time line shift occurs I tend to sleep very soundly and wake up late for me. What I look for is who I know has died in the past who is alive now. Often we see this with various entertainers and some political people. I think Andrew Bassiago may have mentioned something about this but not sure.
The one thing my contactee friend said is that the ETs keep working at putting humanity and the planet on the more positive timelines so it appear that there is nothing to worry about with that specific regard.
There is also some excellent scientific research out there that I recall reading where event in the past can be altered as well. I found that fascinating. Basically time is not linear.. but our memories tend to be. The interesting thing about timeline shifts is that most people tend to go along with the changes (which I've also noted in some historical places as well) and don't think to much about it. But there are those of us who remember the way it was, before things shifted onto the new timeline. I also recall several years back a number of others discussing this very phenomena on other forums with some interesting discussions. One needs to think of time as fluid - similar to water. The outcome of events in motion are constantly shifting depending upon the consciousness / awareness of those who are "awake". Since we already know that we can alter various potential outcomes with prayer. There have been a number of group experiments with this involving weather and the health of others among other things.
Currently there are groups of people who join in meditations to help raise the vibrational frequency of humanity on a regular basis now and Dr. Steven Greer is also among some of those people.
So yes, I accept the Mandela effect as a reality but am not to concerned about CERN and what's going on there. Time line shifts have been occurring since the 40's.
I also searched our archive for Time, Time Shifts & Time Travel. We have some great threads if you care to explore them.
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t8787-beyond-physics-scientists-successfully-teleport-information-for-first-time?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t8414-time-travel-hadron-collider-alien-energy-manipulation-with-andrew-bartzis?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3821-pentagon-scientists-use-time-hole-to-make-events-disappear?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7916-the-art-of-jumping-time-lines?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7336-time-travel-or-alien-tech?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t396-time-travel?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6613-time-shifts-time-slips?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6463-evidence-of-the-existence-of-multiverse-revealed-for-the-first-time-by-cosmic-map?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6533-scientists-create-device-that-tears-a-hole-in-time-enabling-undetectable-secret-messages-to-be-sent-so-long-as-you-do-it-in-0-00012-of-a-second?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6454-marie-d-jones-this-book-is-from-the-future-time-travel-wormholes?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1748-timeline-glitches?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t5844-time-reversal-research-may-open-doors-to-future-tech?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t5753-time-travel-teleportation-secret-governmental-star-gates-and-jump-portals-between-planets?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t5083-tesla-reincarnation-time-travel-extraterrestrials-patrick-flanagan-and-sterling-allan?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4845-physicist-haarp-manipulates-time?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4697-bob-tuskin-speaks-with-andrew-basiago-time-travel-and-project-pegasus?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t226-time-travel?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4526-seven-secrets-of-time-travel?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4177-scientists-suggest-spacetime-has-no-time-dimension?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3822-scientists-warp-time-for-cloaking-device?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3121-new-zealand-abductee-describes-alien-pyramids-and-symbols-time-travel-and-sound-color-communication?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2981-some-people-talk-about-space-time-invisibility-cloaks-at-cornell-they-built-one?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2422-time-shifts-starfire-tor?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2093-ripples-in-spacetime-gravitational-waves?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1735-new-type-of-entanglement-allows-teleportation-in-time?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1548-scientists-find-evidence-for-chronesthesia-or-mental-time-travel?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1037-how-ets-create-missing-time?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1035-manipulating-time-china-s-extraordainry-human-potential-research?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t121-time-s-collapsing-the-shift-jim-self?highlight=time+line+shifts
I also had a friend who was a contactee who told me that the ETs where also responsible for some of the time-line shifts although we also are aware that the secret government has been partly to blame as well.
I've noticed over the years that when a time line shift occurs I tend to sleep very soundly and wake up late for me. What I look for is who I know has died in the past who is alive now. Often we see this with various entertainers and some political people. I think Andrew Bassiago may have mentioned something about this but not sure.
The one thing my contactee friend said is that the ETs keep working at putting humanity and the planet on the more positive timelines so it appear that there is nothing to worry about with that specific regard.
There is also some excellent scientific research out there that I recall reading where event in the past can be altered as well. I found that fascinating. Basically time is not linear.. but our memories tend to be. The interesting thing about timeline shifts is that most people tend to go along with the changes (which I've also noted in some historical places as well) and don't think to much about it. But there are those of us who remember the way it was, before things shifted onto the new timeline. I also recall several years back a number of others discussing this very phenomena on other forums with some interesting discussions. One needs to think of time as fluid - similar to water. The outcome of events in motion are constantly shifting depending upon the consciousness / awareness of those who are "awake". Since we already know that we can alter various potential outcomes with prayer. There have been a number of group experiments with this involving weather and the health of others among other things.
Currently there are groups of people who join in meditations to help raise the vibrational frequency of humanity on a regular basis now and Dr. Steven Greer is also among some of those people.
So yes, I accept the Mandela effect as a reality but am not to concerned about CERN and what's going on there. Time line shifts have been occurring since the 40's.
I also searched our archive for Time, Time Shifts & Time Travel. We have some great threads if you care to explore them.
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t8787-beyond-physics-scientists-successfully-teleport-information-for-first-time?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t8414-time-travel-hadron-collider-alien-energy-manipulation-with-andrew-bartzis?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3821-pentagon-scientists-use-time-hole-to-make-events-disappear?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7916-the-art-of-jumping-time-lines?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t7336-time-travel-or-alien-tech?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t396-time-travel?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6613-time-shifts-time-slips?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6463-evidence-of-the-existence-of-multiverse-revealed-for-the-first-time-by-cosmic-map?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6533-scientists-create-device-that-tears-a-hole-in-time-enabling-undetectable-secret-messages-to-be-sent-so-long-as-you-do-it-in-0-00012-of-a-second?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t6454-marie-d-jones-this-book-is-from-the-future-time-travel-wormholes?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1748-timeline-glitches?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t5844-time-reversal-research-may-open-doors-to-future-tech?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t5753-time-travel-teleportation-secret-governmental-star-gates-and-jump-portals-between-planets?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t5083-tesla-reincarnation-time-travel-extraterrestrials-patrick-flanagan-and-sterling-allan?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4845-physicist-haarp-manipulates-time?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4697-bob-tuskin-speaks-with-andrew-basiago-time-travel-and-project-pegasus?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t226-time-travel?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4526-seven-secrets-of-time-travel?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t4177-scientists-suggest-spacetime-has-no-time-dimension?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3822-scientists-warp-time-for-cloaking-device?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t3121-new-zealand-abductee-describes-alien-pyramids-and-symbols-time-travel-and-sound-color-communication?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2981-some-people-talk-about-space-time-invisibility-cloaks-at-cornell-they-built-one?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2422-time-shifts-starfire-tor?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t2093-ripples-in-spacetime-gravitational-waves?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1735-new-type-of-entanglement-allows-teleportation-in-time?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1548-scientists-find-evidence-for-chronesthesia-or-mental-time-travel?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1037-how-ets-create-missing-time?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t1035-manipulating-time-china-s-extraordainry-human-potential-research?highlight=time+line+shifts
http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t121-time-s-collapsing-the-shift-jim-self?highlight=time+line+shifts
_________________
What is life?
It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.
With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
bobhardee- Posts : 3445
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- Post n°3
Re: Mandela Effect and the dawn of the parallel universe
bobhardee Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:11 am
9/20/16
Carol, Thank you for your response and for reminding any interested party that the MOA site contains lots and lots of information and that we have a Search bar to research any topic that they so choose. (Many thanks for all the work that you do). I started to post this with what you had previously posted but for whatever reason did not do so. If the ET's are shifting things, maybe they could do something about the nuclear disaster that is continuing to unfold in Japan. If there was another earthquake close to the nuclear site that were to damage all the water containers and that liquid flowed into the ocean, the damage would be beyond belief.
The whole Mandela effect makes me wonder why certain events have been allowed or encouraged on this timeline. Secret government? I do believe that we have had very wealthy people who have major influence on all political and economic decision but I am not so sure about a secret government. I don't believe in a secret government when evil people such as Rumsfield or Chaney have been placed into public office. Nothing secret about those two. Thinking of time shifting? We have lost some great leaders and some who were not so great have come to power. Let's look at the JFK assassination. I guess one could make a case that if JFK had not been shot, civil rights legislation would not have passed. Like 9/11 the country grieved for years on the loss of JFK and nobody wanted to believe it went down the way the Warren commission said it did. I don't understand why the ET's would allow Ronald Reagan to approve of a reduction in public housing from 88 billion to 18 per year and thus started the homelessness problem that we have today. Not sure how the wealthy or ET's benefited from that. Nor do I understand why they would have gone along with Nixon's approval of a change in the immigration law that started the current immigration problem we have today.
I recall that Nelson Mandela had died in prison...just like on the video. What was different about this video from some of the previous posts is now there is someone saying that with the supercomputer, they are detecting the time shifts and are becoming aware of a parallel universe.
Bob H
Carol, Thank you for your response and for reminding any interested party that the MOA site contains lots and lots of information and that we have a Search bar to research any topic that they so choose. (Many thanks for all the work that you do). I started to post this with what you had previously posted but for whatever reason did not do so. If the ET's are shifting things, maybe they could do something about the nuclear disaster that is continuing to unfold in Japan. If there was another earthquake close to the nuclear site that were to damage all the water containers and that liquid flowed into the ocean, the damage would be beyond belief.
The whole Mandela effect makes me wonder why certain events have been allowed or encouraged on this timeline. Secret government? I do believe that we have had very wealthy people who have major influence on all political and economic decision but I am not so sure about a secret government. I don't believe in a secret government when evil people such as Rumsfield or Chaney have been placed into public office. Nothing secret about those two. Thinking of time shifting? We have lost some great leaders and some who were not so great have come to power. Let's look at the JFK assassination. I guess one could make a case that if JFK had not been shot, civil rights legislation would not have passed. Like 9/11 the country grieved for years on the loss of JFK and nobody wanted to believe it went down the way the Warren commission said it did. I don't understand why the ET's would allow Ronald Reagan to approve of a reduction in public housing from 88 billion to 18 per year and thus started the homelessness problem that we have today. Not sure how the wealthy or ET's benefited from that. Nor do I understand why they would have gone along with Nixon's approval of a change in the immigration law that started the current immigration problem we have today.
I recall that Nelson Mandela had died in prison...just like on the video. What was different about this video from some of the previous posts is now there is someone saying that with the supercomputer, they are detecting the time shifts and are becoming aware of a parallel universe.
Bob H
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Hi Bob. Parallel universe is a given from a scientific perspective. Michio Kaku discussed this in a number of youtube videos - some posted below. One of the ways Kaku described parallel universe is like pages of a book pressed together. Each page being a different parallel dimension. His discourse is fascinating.
Next, as to Fukushima and the radiation problem there are multiple things happening, battles being fought and and also multiple ET groups involved. Some, the majority beneficial and a few not beneficial to humanity. The negative group is responsible for what happened with Fukushima. I think the benevolent group is waiting for humanities consciousness to grow in awareness before assisting in a more direct manner. However, there is much that goes on behind the scenes. One also has to remember that the US Secret Government has been kicking around with the different timelines since the 40's. On the original timeline, the South won the civil war. I also recall the Nazi Swastika being drawn in the opposite direction among a number of other things. And yes, the timeline I was on Mandela did die in prison. When the time line shifts so does historical reference in both written material and films. Indiana Jones was where I saw how the Swastika designed had been reversed. So there are a number of examples where this has occurred where folks recall how it was for them as compared to the present. Based on testimony of those who recall being on different timelines, I also suspect as the timelines shift others from other time lines are moved onto this one - and possibly vise versa.
And just to add another perspective, there was this one individual who died from cancer and was dead for a good 7 hours (Mellen-Thomas Benedict's Near-Death Experience - http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html) who returned with an incredible story of his experience. He spoke about how he hated nuclear war, radiation and many other things, yet when he was undergoing his after life journey saw how they all fit into the big picture. These horrendous events exist to help awaken people with respect to their conscious awareness and quicken them from within. These days I can barely even watch some of the news pertaining to violence as it sickens me. Evil does exists and our role is to fight it. Yet how does one do that?
Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves to Another Universe at Death / http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t9023-scientists-claim-that-quantum-theory-proves-consciousness-moves-to-another-universe-at-death?highlight=near+death
This particular dimension is about polarities where individuals are given multiple opportunities to experience both sides of the fence. From their experiences they learn and continue to make choices. We may not like the timeline that we're on yet this timeline isn't the worse one nor the best. It just is the one we are on and the one we are meant to affect through our conscious thoughts and actions. By expanding our awareness through positive thought, prayer and actions the timeline is continuously adjusted to a more positive outcome. Currently it appears that things need to worsen in order to knock part of humanity out of its complacency and become more of a co-creator for positive change. Given the onslaught of negativity that we're undergoing this effort is challenging for many, yet not impossible. Many people now pray more where they join various meditation groups. And one must remember that it is the few that can shift the entire balance in the right direction when given the correct tools on how to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0J5_i7hOY
Michio Kaku on Parallel Universe with visuals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hmXrHvmwOM
Michio Kaku: Escape to a Parallel Universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D-gRqvJJxY
Michio Kaku - Parallel Worlds
Next, as to Fukushima and the radiation problem there are multiple things happening, battles being fought and and also multiple ET groups involved. Some, the majority beneficial and a few not beneficial to humanity. The negative group is responsible for what happened with Fukushima. I think the benevolent group is waiting for humanities consciousness to grow in awareness before assisting in a more direct manner. However, there is much that goes on behind the scenes. One also has to remember that the US Secret Government has been kicking around with the different timelines since the 40's. On the original timeline, the South won the civil war. I also recall the Nazi Swastika being drawn in the opposite direction among a number of other things. And yes, the timeline I was on Mandela did die in prison. When the time line shifts so does historical reference in both written material and films. Indiana Jones was where I saw how the Swastika designed had been reversed. So there are a number of examples where this has occurred where folks recall how it was for them as compared to the present. Based on testimony of those who recall being on different timelines, I also suspect as the timelines shift others from other time lines are moved onto this one - and possibly vise versa.
And just to add another perspective, there was this one individual who died from cancer and was dead for a good 7 hours (Mellen-Thomas Benedict's Near-Death Experience - http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html) who returned with an incredible story of his experience. He spoke about how he hated nuclear war, radiation and many other things, yet when he was undergoing his after life journey saw how they all fit into the big picture. These horrendous events exist to help awaken people with respect to their conscious awareness and quicken them from within. These days I can barely even watch some of the news pertaining to violence as it sickens me. Evil does exists and our role is to fight it. Yet how does one do that?
Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves to Another Universe at Death / http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t9023-scientists-claim-that-quantum-theory-proves-consciousness-moves-to-another-universe-at-death?highlight=near+death
This particular dimension is about polarities where individuals are given multiple opportunities to experience both sides of the fence. From their experiences they learn and continue to make choices. We may not like the timeline that we're on yet this timeline isn't the worse one nor the best. It just is the one we are on and the one we are meant to affect through our conscious thoughts and actions. By expanding our awareness through positive thought, prayer and actions the timeline is continuously adjusted to a more positive outcome. Currently it appears that things need to worsen in order to knock part of humanity out of its complacency and become more of a co-creator for positive change. Given the onslaught of negativity that we're undergoing this effort is challenging for many, yet not impossible. Many people now pray more where they join various meditation groups. And one must remember that it is the few that can shift the entire balance in the right direction when given the correct tools on how to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0J5_i7hOY
Michio Kaku on Parallel Universe with visuals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hmXrHvmwOM
Michio Kaku: Escape to a Parallel Universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D-gRqvJJxY
Michio Kaku - Parallel Worlds
_________________
What is life?
It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.
With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
Swanny- Posts : 1182
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Can I go into a parallel universe (the one where I'm dead and my girlfriend is still alive) grab her and bring her back?? 
Jenetta- Posts : 1978
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Location : British Columbia Canada
bobhardee wrote:9/20/16
Carol, Thank you for your response and for reminding any interested party that the MOA site contains lots and lots of information and that we have a Search bar to research any topic that they so choose. (Many thanks for all the work that you do). I started to post this with what you had previously posted but for whatever reason did not do so. If the ET's are shifting things, maybe they could do something about the nuclear disaster that is continuing to unfold in Japan. If there was another earthquake close to the nuclear site that were to damage all the water containers and that liquid flowed into the ocean, the damage would be beyond belief.
The whole Mandela effect makes me wonder why certain events have been allowed or encouraged on this timeline. Secret government? I do believe that we have had very wealthy people who have major influence on all political and economic decision but I am not so sure about a secret government. I don't believe in a secret government when evil people such as Rumsfield or Chaney have been placed into public office. Nothing secret about those two. Thinking of time shifting? We have lost some great leaders and some who were not so great have come to power. Let's look at the JFK assassination. I guess one could make a case that if JFK had not been shot, civil rights legislation would not have passed. Like 9/11 the country grieved for years on the loss of JFK and nobody wanted to believe it went down the way the Warren commission said it did. I don't understand why the ET's would allow Ronald Reagan to approve of a reduction in public housing from 88 billion to 18 per year and thus started the homelessness problem that we have today. Not sure how the wealthy or ET's benefited from that. Nor do I understand why they would have gone along with Nixon's approval of a change in the immigration law that started the current immigration problem we have today.
I recall that Nelson Mandela had died in prison...just like on the video. What was different about this video from some of the previous posts is now there is someone saying that with the supercomputer, they are detecting the time shifts and are becoming aware of a parallel universe.
Bob H
The recognition of time shifts and parallel universes is valuable. Of the three dangerous predictions Geordie makes (from Burnaby my old stomping grounds) I would say that the third prediction is most serious. Quantum computers=intelligent machines.
Artificial intelligence that outstrips human brains is dangerous precisely because these machines are self evolving and self learning programmed to do so. To maintain their independence at all cost even if that cost leads to destruction. There are entities on our timeline
who would promote that agenda and who will and can funnel billions of dollars into a project to promote that agenda especially in some DoD secret black ops projects.
I am saying these quantum computers can be used for good or evil and unfortunately our species is not evolved enough to use them for purely life enhancing benefits for the human race which is the cause they could be used for to enable our expansion into tapping the resources of parallel universes.
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bobhardee- Posts : 3445
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- Post n°7
Re: Mandela Effect and the dawn of the parallel universe
bobhardee Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:48 pm
I just finished listening to all three hours of Dr. Greer new presentation. Even though he has discussed some of the material before, it is worth the listen. He does not include reference to AI. However, it only make perfect sense that, that it is driving parts of the Secret Space Program as much as anything else. And I share that fear with you Jeanette of the threat that AI poses. I don't think it would take much to be smarter than me.
At the very end of the program, Greer discusses disclosure saying it will come when there is a mass ET presents in the sky.....such so that no one can deny such. I guess the ET's will have to disable any man made ET craft in order to ensure their own safety. I hope that turns out okay. Let's think about it a moment and consider that some of the ET craft will be totally AI driven. According to Greer some in the past have been so. Our fear is AI will outstrip Human intelligence but will it or has it out paced ET intelligence and if not what did they do to restrict such?
I still believe that the day approaches where ET's will come to Earth to establish a trade agreement. We will start manufacturing items for them and they will sell us some of their technology.....and knowledge.
Bob H
PS I know this is not the place to do so but could somebody give me the job description of the secret space program. What the heck are those folks doing? Maybe they are really building an ark of some kind because they know that the Earth is doomed. That's a terrible thought. Hey if they have build all sorts of underground facilities, why not a space ark.
At the very end of the program, Greer discusses disclosure saying it will come when there is a mass ET presents in the sky.....such so that no one can deny such. I guess the ET's will have to disable any man made ET craft in order to ensure their own safety. I hope that turns out okay. Let's think about it a moment and consider that some of the ET craft will be totally AI driven. According to Greer some in the past have been so. Our fear is AI will outstrip Human intelligence but will it or has it out paced ET intelligence and if not what did they do to restrict such?
I still believe that the day approaches where ET's will come to Earth to establish a trade agreement. We will start manufacturing items for them and they will sell us some of their technology.....and knowledge.
Bob H
PS I know this is not the place to do so but could somebody give me the job description of the secret space program. What the heck are those folks doing? Maybe they are really building an ark of some kind because they know that the Earth is doomed. That's a terrible thought. Hey if they have build all sorts of underground facilities, why not a space ark.
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bobhardee wrote:
At the very end of the program, Greer discusses disclosure saying it will come when there is a mass ET presents in the sky.....such so that no one can deny such. I guess the ET's will have to disable any man made ET craft in order to ensure their own safety. I hope that turns out okay. Let's think about it a moment and consider that some of the ET craft will be totally AI driven. According to Greer some in the past have been so. Our fear is AI will outstrip Human intelligence but will it or has it out paced ET intelligence and if not what did they do to restrict such?
Maybe ET AI has already outstripped them and we will be dealing with ET AI
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Hi Swanny - Jenetta - Bob,
Well one of the primary concerns that Simon Parks discussed was the whole AI issue and transhumanism where consciousness can be downloaded which would basically end human spiritual evolution. There are some individuals who want to live forever even if it means being part robot similar to human robots in Dr. Who. Who are these people who want to become transhumane anyway? Do they even have a spiritual core or awareness of the Divine? Curious.
Personally I think that there is a lot more freedom within our 12 dimensional spiritual body which gives one the opportunity to explore much. One would think that getting trapped into a permanent 3-D reality isn't a viable goal if one wishes to continue to spiritually evolve.
The thing about Quantum computers=intelligent machines is what type of unknown potentials do the pose. I think one of the comments about CERN was how it was opening a portal to other dimensions.. some not too terrific where nasty things can come through to this dimension. But if one stops to consider what happened with the Philadelphia experiment where a hole was ripped in time and space it seems humanity is still trudging onward.
Since I stay focused in the present moment most of the time Bob, I just don't let myself worry to much about possible negative futures. It just seems that the Divine has a plan and everything is perfect within the plan even if we've no clue what the plan is or any challenges we may face in the present. My motto these days is "I'll worry about it when it happens." Saves me from a lot of unnecessary stress.
You remember Ram Das, don't you? He said, "Don't worry. Be happy?" So happy go lucky works for me.
Well one of the primary concerns that Simon Parks discussed was the whole AI issue and transhumanism where consciousness can be downloaded which would basically end human spiritual evolution. There are some individuals who want to live forever even if it means being part robot similar to human robots in Dr. Who. Who are these people who want to become transhumane anyway? Do they even have a spiritual core or awareness of the Divine? Curious.
Personally I think that there is a lot more freedom within our 12 dimensional spiritual body which gives one the opportunity to explore much. One would think that getting trapped into a permanent 3-D reality isn't a viable goal if one wishes to continue to spiritually evolve.
The thing about Quantum computers=intelligent machines is what type of unknown potentials do the pose. I think one of the comments about CERN was how it was opening a portal to other dimensions.. some not too terrific where nasty things can come through to this dimension. But if one stops to consider what happened with the Philadelphia experiment where a hole was ripped in time and space it seems humanity is still trudging onward.
Since I stay focused in the present moment most of the time Bob, I just don't let myself worry to much about possible negative futures. It just seems that the Divine has a plan and everything is perfect within the plan even if we've no clue what the plan is or any challenges we may face in the present. My motto these days is "I'll worry about it when it happens." Saves me from a lot of unnecessary stress.
You remember Ram Das, don't you? He said, "Don't worry. Be happy?" So happy go lucky works for me.
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I just can't get hyped up about this 'Mandela Effect'. I've not seen or heard anything from anyone yet that has me CONvinced (as in conned).
Parallel universes and non-linear time discussions are great fun. But, that's different.
Other-dimensional stuff is all fascinating especially with regard to how our own minds/subconscious can 'create' just about anything. What's real? Good question. One person's 'reality' may not be shared by anyone else. Everyone seems to have their own universe/multiverse to explore.
ETs... first, prove to me they exist before just presuming they're real and they're supposedly messing with our timelines -- the, 'I have a friend who is a contactee...' doesn't cut it.
Other-dimensional/interdimensional beings are conveniently found in an 'altered state' (dreamstate...). Even I've been visited by goblins and Greys while in self-induced altered states because I WILLED it. I CONJURED it up. And, for my very first spontaneous OBE, my own mind pulled up a Shadow Person when I didn't even know what the heck it was at the time. That doesn't mean it was 'real'. At least it wasn't 3D real. It was '4D' real -- for what it's worth. It's not necessarily real for anyone else. Did I tap into other people's 'nightmares', other people's thoughts? Quite possibly... the collective unconscious... Was I looking into my own 'abyss'... or someone (or everyone) else's?
Just as a point of fact, I've not run into a Shadow Person since and that's probably because I'm not wanting to.
Do you make this stuff up as you go, Carol?
I just HAD to check Raiders and, no, it's exactly the way it's always been. I even drew it on a piece of paper before checking the movie just to be sure (why do I even make the effort, this is silly!). It just so happens I grew up in a family with a German background. I used to draw the Nazi Swastika even when I was a kid (lol -- no, we weren't Nazis [btw, I happen to be partly Jewish]). My specialty is being VERY visually/spatially... adept. I have very clear memories that span my lifetime.
One minute you're saying Nazi Swastikas are now reversed (and that's just ONE itty bitty example amongst many others) and then you're saying the ETs are messing with our timelines. If one isn't fact... why should I believe the other? This is why I just can't take... oh... 80%-90%? of what you're saying here seriously.
Of course, EVERYONE knows that if enough people believe something to be true even when it isn't, eventually, the lie will become the truth.
With everyone holding hands here, I find this a fascinating phenomena. It's not something I will allow myself to be pulled into.
When we were kids in school, they used to make us play a game where we'd all sit in a circle. One person would start by whispering a message in the ear of the person sitting next to them. Then, that person would have to whisper what they thought they'd heard to the next person and so on and so on... until it went around the entire circle and came back to the beginning. Then, the last person would say out loud what the message was and it was compared to the original message. Needless to say, it was entirely different from the original message and we'd all get a big laugh out of it.
Are we forgetting what we learned as children?
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I just can't get hyped up about this 'Mandela Effect'. I've not seen or heard anything from anyone yet that has me CONvinced (as in conned).
Parallel universes and non-linear time discussions are great fun. But, that's different.
Other-dimensional stuff is all fascinating especially with regard to how our own minds/subconscious can 'create' just about anything. What's real? Good question. One person's 'reality' may not be shared by anyone else. Everyone seems to have their own universe/multiverse to explore.
ETs... first, prove to me they exist before just presuming they're real and they're supposedly messing with our timelines -- the, 'I have a friend who is a contactee...' doesn't cut it.
Other-dimensional/interdimensional beings are conveniently found in an 'altered state' (dreamstate...). Even I've been visited by goblins and Greys while in self-induced altered states because I WILLED it. I CONJURED it up. And, for my very first spontaneous OBE, my own mind pulled up a Shadow Person when I didn't even know what the heck it was at the time. That doesn't mean it was 'real'. At least it wasn't 3D real. It was '4D' real -- for what it's worth. It's not necessarily real for anyone else. Did I tap into other people's 'nightmares', other people's thoughts? Quite possibly... the collective unconscious... Was I looking into my own 'abyss'... or someone (or everyone) else's?
Just as a point of fact, I've not run into a Shadow Person since and that's probably because I'm not wanting to.
Carol wrote:I also recall the Nazi Swastika being drawn in the opposite direction among a number of other things......Indiana Jones was where I saw how the Swastika designed had been reversed. So there are a number of examples where this has occurred where folks recall how it was for them as compared to the present.
Do you make this stuff up as you go, Carol?
I just HAD to check Raiders and, no, it's exactly the way it's always been. I even drew it on a piece of paper before checking the movie just to be sure (why do I even make the effort, this is silly!). It just so happens I grew up in a family with a German background. I used to draw the Nazi Swastika even when I was a kid (lol -- no, we weren't Nazis [btw, I happen to be partly Jewish]). My specialty is being VERY visually/spatially... adept. I have very clear memories that span my lifetime.
One minute you're saying Nazi Swastikas are now reversed (and that's just ONE itty bitty example amongst many others) and then you're saying the ETs are messing with our timelines. If one isn't fact... why should I believe the other? This is why I just can't take... oh... 80%-90%? of what you're saying here seriously.
Of course, EVERYONE knows that if enough people believe something to be true even when it isn't, eventually, the lie will become the truth.
With everyone holding hands here, I find this a fascinating phenomena. It's not something I will allow myself to be pulled into.
When we were kids in school, they used to make us play a game where we'd all sit in a circle. One person would start by whispering a message in the ear of the person sitting next to them. Then, that person would have to whisper what they thought they'd heard to the next person and so on and so on... until it went around the entire circle and came back to the beginning. Then, the last person would say out loud what the message was and it was compared to the original message. Needless to say, it was entirely different from the original message and we'd all get a big laugh out of it.
Are we forgetting what we learned as children?
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Swanny- Posts : 1182
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Carol wrote:
You remember Ram Das, don't you? He said, "Don't worry. Be happy?" So happy go lucky works for me.
If you click on my signature you get this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8gJZClPGCw
The Swastika is an ancient symbol. Hitler turned it round
mudra- Posts : 23210
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Swanny wrote:
If you click on my signature you get this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8gJZClPGCw
That's cool Swanny .
I hadn't noticed your signature was a gate to music :)
Love from me
mudra