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    Walking between The Worlds - Bilocation - The Final Synthesis ... So, who was The eXchanger from The Original Project Avalon & Camelot ? Susan Lynne Schwenger - curated lineages

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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:55 am

    Hugues I, châtelain de Douai is your 29th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Hugues-I-ch%C3%A2telain-de-Douai/6000000009304894095?through=6000000002188026417


    Hugues de Douai

    Birth:

    circa 1002
    Douai, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France

    Death:

    circa 1048 (46)
    Cambrai, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France

    Immediate Family:
    Hugues I, châtelain de Douai is your 29th great grandfather.



    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    james edward handy
    her father



    JAMES handy
    his father



    Marian Ruthven
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father



    Catherine Ruthven
    his mother



    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother



    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father



    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    his mother



    John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
    her father



    John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
    his father



    Philippa of Hainault, Queen consort of England
    his mother



    Guillaume III de Hainaut, graaf van Holland
    her father



    Jean II d'Avesnes, graaf van Holland
    his father



    Jean I d'Avesnes, comte de Hainaut
    his father



    Bouchard IV d'Avesnes
    his father



    Jacques d'Avesnes (Crusader)
    his father



    Nicolas d'Oisy, seigneur d'Avesnes, de Leuze & de Condé
    his father



    Wauthier I d'Oisy, eigneur de Condé-sur-L'Escaut, d'Avesnes & de Leuze
    his father



    Fastre II d'Oisy, Châtelain et avoué de Tournai
    his father



    Fastre I d'Oisy, Châtelain de Lens
    his father



    Hugues I, châtelain de Douai
    his father

    Husband of Adèle de Cambrai
    Father of Wautier de Douai; Hugues I de Douai, châtelain de Cambrai; Fastre I d'Oisy, Châtelain de Lens and Seigneur

    Added by:
    James Frederick Pultz on November 14, 2007

    Managed by:
    Stéphane Pierre Édouard Chappellier and 19 others

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    Adèle de Cambrai is your 29th great grandmother.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Ad%C3%A8le-de-Cambrai/6000000002187947278?through=6000000009304894095

    Adèle de Cambrai




    Birth:

    circa 1020
    Cambrai, Nord Pas de Calais, France



    Death:

    1046 (26)
    Y, Somme, Picardie, France



    Immediate Family:


    Daughter of Walter (Gauthier) de Cambrai, c. 972 and Ermentrude de Cambrai
    Wife of Hugues I, châtelain de Douai
    Mother of Wautier de Douai; Hugues I de Douai, châtelain de Cambrai; Fastre I d'Oisy, Châtelain de Lens and Seigneur
    Sister of N.N. de Lens




    Added by:

    James Frederick Pultz on November 14, 2007



    Managed by:

    Douglas John Nimmo and 20 others

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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:08 am

    Salvert of Dijon is your 50th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Salvert-of-Dijon/4657526?through=4657518#/tab/discussion

    Salvart van Dijon, mythical




    Birth:

    circa 580



    Death:

    circa 620 (40)
    Flanders (Killed by Lord Phinaert, the giant)



    Immediate Family:


    Husband of Princess Ermengaert (mythical)
    Father of Lydéric, 1st Forrester of Harlebec (mythical?)




    Added by:

    Robert Belien on May 9, 2007



    Managed by:

    Robert Johan Belien and 2 others

    Salvert of Dijon is your 50th great grandfather.



    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    james edward handy
    her father



    JAMES handy
    his father



    Marian Ruthven
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father



    Catherine Ruthven
    his mother



    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother



    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father



    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    his mother



    John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
    her father



    John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
    his father



    Philippa of Hainault, Queen consort of England
    his mother



    Guillaume III de Hainaut, graaf van Holland
    her father



    Jean II d'Avesnes, graaf van Holland
    his father



    Jean I d'Avesnes, comte de Hainaut
    his father



    Bouchard IV d'Avesnes
    his father



    Jacques d'Avesnes (Crusader)
    his father



    Nicolas d'Oisy, seigneur d'Avesnes, de Leuze & de Condé
    his father



    Wauthier I d'Oisy, eigneur de Condé-sur-L'Escaut, d'Avesnes & de Leuze
    his father



    Fastre II d'Oisy, Châtelain et avoué de Tournai
    his father



    Fastre I d'Oisy, Châtelain de Lens
    his father



    Adèle de Cambrai
    his mother



    Walter (Gauthier) de Cambrai, c. 972
    her father



    Gauthier I de Lens, châtelain de Cambrai
    his father



    Gauthier de Lens
    his father



    Lambert II de Boulogne, comte de Lens
    his father



    Eustace I, Sovereign Count of Boulogne
    his father



    Baudouin de Boulogne, comte de Boulogne
    his father



    Arnoul III, comte de Boulogne
    his father



    Arnoul I, comte de Boulogne
    his father



    Adelolf, comte de Boulogne
    his father



    Boudewijn II de Kale, Graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)
    his father



    Boudewijn de IJzeren, Graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)
    his father



    Otger van Vlaanderen
    his father



    Ingelram van Vlaanderen
    his father



    Liederik van Vlaanderen
    his father



    Lydéric IV (mythical?)
    his father



    Lydéric III
    his father



    Lyderic II van Vlaanderen, (mythical?)
    his father



    Estorede van Vlaanderen
    his father



    Burchard van Harlebeke
    his father



    Lydéric, 1st Forrester of Harlebec (mythical?)
    his father



    Salvert of Dijon
    his father
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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:39 am

    http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-William-Braveheart-Wallace-Kt/6000000003646008347?through=6000000012668053252

    Sir William "Braveheart" Wallace, Kt. is your 21st great grandfather.

    William Wallace


    Birth:
    January 1272
    Elderslie, Paisley Parish, Renfrewshire, Scotland
    Death:
    August 23, 1305 (33)
    The Elms at Smithfield, London, Middlesex, England

    Immediate Family:
    Husband of Marion Cornellia Wallace (Braidfute) of Lamington
    Father of Elizabeth Marion Wallace - Baillie

    Curated by:
    Ben M. Angel

    Sir William "Braveheart" Wallace, Kt. is your 21st great grandfather.




    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    james edward handy
    her father



    JAMES handy
    his father



    Marian Ruthven
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Mary Gray
    his mother



    Marion Gray
    her mother



    Helen Ogilvy (Sinclair), Lady Ogilvy of Airlie
    her mother



    Margaret Sinclair
    her mother



    Adam Hepburn, Master of Hailes, Sheriff of Berwick
    her father



    Ellen Hepburn
    his mother



    Miss Wallace, heiress of Elderslie
    her mother



    Helen Wallace (Baillie) of Ederslie
    her mother



    William Baillie
    her father



    Elizabeth Marion Wallace - Baillie
    his mother



    Sir William "Braveheart" Wallace, Kt.
    her father

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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:38 pm

    Schwenger - Ruthven - Stewart - through the heart of
    Old Avalon & Camelot through Cornwall to ...

    http://www.geni.com/people/Genuissa-Claudia-Queen-of-Siluria/6000000000977027128?through=6000000000977042088

    Genuissa Claudia, Queen of Siluria is your 58th great grandmother

    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    james edward handy
    her father



    JAMES handy
    his father



    Marian Ruthven
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father



    Catherine Ruthven
    his mother



    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother



    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father



    James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn
    his father



    Sir John Stewart of Innermeath
    his father



    Sir Robert Stewart
    his father



    Sir James Stewart
    his father



    John Stewart, Lord of Bonkyll
    his father



    Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
    his father



    Walter "Ballioch" fitzAlan Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland
    his father



    Alan Fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland
    his father



    Walter Fitz-Alan 1st Lord High Steward
    his father



    Alan Fitz Flaad
    his father



    Flaald, Seneschal de Dol en Bretagne
    his father



    Alain FitzFlaald, Seneschal of Dol
    his father



    Flaald de Dol, Seneschal of Dol
    his father



    Aimon I, vicomte de Dinan
    his father



    Binidic "Castellin"
    his father



    Budic de Cornouaille, I, Prince
    his father



    Diles de Cornouaille, Prince Cornwall
    his father



    Ulfret de Cornouaille, Prince Cornwall
    his father



    Alfrond de Cornouaille
    his father



    Justin de Cornouaille, Pr Cornouille
    his father



    Constantine Cornouaille, Prince of Cornwall
    his father



    Judon Ap Concar, Pr. Cornouille
    his father



    Concar ap Gradlon, Prince of Cornwall
    his father



    Gradlon Ap Judicael
    his father



    Saint Judicael
    his father



    Hoël III de Cornouaille, roi de Bretagne
    his father



    Alain ap Hoel Fychan, I, King of Brittany
    his father



    Hoël ap Hoël Mawr, II, King of Brittany
    his father



    Hoël ap Emyr Llydaw, I, King of Brittany
    his father



    Budic ap Erich, King of Brittany
    his father



    Erich ap Aldrien, Duke of Brittany
    his father



    Aldrien de Bretagne, King of Brittany
    his father



    Salomon I ap Gradlon, King of Brittany
    his father



    Gradlon ap Conan, King of Brittany
    his father



    Cynan de Bretagne, Brenin o Dumnonia
    his father



    Gereint ab Einudd, Lord of Meridoc
    his father



    Einudd Ap Gwrddwfn, King of Wales
    his father



    Gwrddwfin ap Cwrrig
    his father



    Cwrrig Goruc Mawr ap Meirchion, King of Wales
    his father



    Meirchion ap Owain, King of Wales
    his father



    Owain Eurgen ap Marius Cyllin, King of Wales
    his father



    St. Cyllin / Marius ap Caradog, King of Britain
    his father



    Genuissa Claudia, Queen of Siluria
    his mother





    Genuissa Venissa Julia Claudia, Queen of Siluria

    Birth:

    circa 15

    Death:

    50 (35)
    Britain?



    Immediate Family:
    Wife of Arvirargus ap Cunobelin, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni

    Mother of Eurgen ap Caradog, Princess Of Britain; Saint Claudia; St. Cyllin / Marius ap Caradog, King of Britain; Linus Lleyn ap Caradoc, Pope, 1st Bishop of Rome and Guid ap Caradog

    Curated by:

    Justin Swanström
    http://www.geni.com/people/Genuissa-Claudia-Queen-of-Siluria/6000000000977027128?through=6000000000977042088

    Venissa (Genissa, Genvissa, Genuissa),
    according to Geoffrey of Monmouth's 12th century Historia Regum Britanniae,
    was a daughter of the Roman Emperor Claudius,
    whom he gave in marriage to the British king Arvirargus
    after he had submitted to Rome.

    According to Geoffrey's account she was very beautiful, and so enchanted Arvirargus that he preferred her company to anyone else's.

    He founded Gloucester, supposedly named after Claudius, in her honour.

    When Arvirargus fell out with Rome and Vespasian was sent to enforce a reconciliation, Venissa acted as mediator between them.

    Venissa cannot be considered historical.

    She is not mentioned in authentic Roman history;
    her supposed husband Arvirargus is known only from a cryptic reference
    in Satire IV, a 2nd century satirical poem by Juvenal;
    and it is in any case inconceivable that a daughter,
    even an illegitimate daughter, of a Roman emperor could be given in marriage
    to a barbarian without attracting comment.
    Nonetheless, she and her husband, identified with the historical Caratacus, appear in many uncritical genealogies originating in the Tudor period.
    •"Venissa" at en.wikipedia.org

    --------------------

    Genuissa married Gweirydd (Aruirage or Arvirargus), King of the Britons,
    son of Cynfelyn (Cymbeline), King of the Britons.
    "Was neuer king more highly magnifide, Nor dred of Romanes, then was Aruirage, For which the Emperour to him allide His daughter Genuiss' in marriage:
    Yet shortly he renounst the vassalage Of Rome againe,
    who hither hastly sent Vespasian,
    that with great spoile and rage Forwasted all,
    till Genuissa gent Perswaded him to ceasse, and her Lord to relent."

    According to Geoffrey of Monmouth's twelfth-century Historia Regum Britanniae, she was a daughter of the Roman Emperor Claudius,
    whom he gave in marriage to the British king Arvirargus (Gweirydd)
    once he had submitted to Rome.

    His nobles persuaded Gweirydd to abandon his plans for battle
    and to accept the proposals of Claudius.

    Their argument was that it could be no disgrace for him to submit to the Romans, since they were the acknowledged overlords of the whole world.

    Gweirydd was swayed by these arguments and by others of a similar nature.

    He accepted their advice and submitted to Claudius.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genvissa for more information.

    Also see "My Lines"

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p79.htm#i10326 )

    from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )

    --------------------

    GENUISSA VANESSA verch TIBERIUS CLAUDIUS II DRUSUS NERO

    BIRTH: Abt 20 A.D. in Lugundum, Gaul - now Lyons, Rhone-Alpes, France

    DEATH:

    FATHER: NERO, Tiberius Claudius II ap Drusus - in Lugundum, Gaul - now Lyons, Rhone-Alpes, France

    MOTHER: Valeria MESSALINA - in Lugundum, Gaul - now Lyons, Rhone-Alpes, France

    MARRIAGE: Avarigus ap CUNOBELINAS-CYMBELINE

    BIRTH: Abt 10 A.D. in Isle of Avalon, Somerset, England (Britain)

    CHILD:

    1. Marius Meric ap AVARIGUS - Abt 40 A.D. in Montgomeryshire, Powys, Wales (Britain)

    --------------------

    2108788192027529. Queen Of Brittany Venus Julia (Venissa)
    ROMAN EMPIRE,1601,1746 daughter of Emperor Rome Tiberius Claudius Drusus Nero Germanicus ROMAN EMPIRE and Augusta Agrippina "The Younger" ROMAN EMPIRE,
    was born in 25 in Rome, Roma, , Lazio, Italy and died in Britain.

    Other names for Venus were Queen of Brittany Genuissa ROMAN EMPIRE,
    and Queen of Brittany Venissa ROMAN EMPIRE.

    General Notes:

    Caradoc and Julia took up residence in Britain and ruled the province with notable success, avoiding much of the civil unrest that plagued other provincial rulers of the time. They were contemporaries with Boudicca and Prasutagus, the legendary Icenian rulers.

    This genealogical material is derived from the Historia Britonum,
    a 9th century legendary history that purported to relate the history
    of British inhabitants from earliest times, tracing their kings to Troy.

    The text has been much expanded and amended in the retelling
    and was used by uncritical medieval chroniclers to write histories
    of both England and Wales, for want of more reliable sources.

    None of this tale is confirmed in any of the contemporary Roman historical sources.470

    Venus married King Arviragus BRITAIN 1601 in <, , , Great Britain>.

    Arviragus was born in 50 in , Avalon, Southern England and died in 74 at age 24.

    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mgholler/Caden/a51.htm#i547458883
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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:51 pm

    http://www.geni.com/people/Arvirargus-ap-Cunobelin/6000000000977042088?through=6000000000977027128

    Arvirargus ap Cunobelin,
    King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni is your 58th great grandfather.


    Arvirargus ap Cunobelin, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni is your 58th great grandfather.

    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    james edward handy
    her father



    JAMES handy
    his father



    Marian Ruthven
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father



    Catherine Ruthven
    his mother



    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother



    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father



    James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn
    his father



    Sir John Stewart of Innermeath
    his father



    Sir Robert Stewart
    his father



    Sir James Stewart
    his father



    John Stewart, Lord of Bonkyll
    his father



    Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
    his father



    Walter "Ballioch" fitzAlan Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland
    his father



    Alan Fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland
    his father



    Walter Fitz-Alan 1st Lord High Steward
    his father



    Alan Fitz Flaad
    his father



    Flaald, Seneschal de Dol en Bretagne
    his father



    Alain FitzFlaald, Seneschal of Dol
    his father



    Flaald de Dol, Seneschal of Dol
    his father



    Aimon I, vicomte de Dinan
    his father



    Binidic "Castellin"
    his father



    Budic de Cornouaille, I, Prince
    his father



    Diles de Cornouaille, Prince Cornwall
    his father



    Ulfret de Cornouaille, Prince Cornwall
    his father



    Alfrond de Cornouaille
    his father



    Justin de Cornouaille, Pr Cornouille
    his father



    Constantine Cornouaille, Prince of Cornwall
    his father



    Judon Ap Concar, Pr. Cornouille
    his father



    Concar ap Gradlon, Prince of Cornwall
    his father



    Gradlon Ap Judicael
    his father



    Saint Judicael
    his father



    Hoël III de Cornouaille, roi de Bretagne
    his father



    Alain ap Hoel Fychan, I, King of Brittany
    his father



    Hoël ap Hoël Mawr, II, King of Brittany
    his father



    Hoël ap Emyr Llydaw, I, King of Brittany
    his father



    Budic ap Erich, King of Brittany
    his father



    Erich ap Aldrien, Duke of Brittany
    his father



    Aldrien de Bretagne, King of Brittany
    his father



    Salomon I ap Gradlon, King of Brittany
    his father



    Gradlon ap Conan, King of Brittany
    his father



    Cynan de Bretagne, Brenin o Dumnonia
    his father



    Gereint ab Einudd, Lord of Meridoc
    his father



    Einudd Ap Gwrddwfn, King of Wales
    his father



    Gwrddwfin ap Cwrrig
    his father



    Cwrrig Goruc Mawr ap Meirchion, King of Wales
    his father



    Meirchion ap Owain, King of Wales
    his father



    Owain Eurgen ap Marius Cyllin, King of Wales
    his father



    St. Cyllin / Marius ap Caradog, King of Britain
    his father



    Arvirargus ap Cunobelin, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni
    his father

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    Arvirargus Gweirdd Ap Cymbeline ap Cunobelin, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni MP




    Place of Burial:

    Wales



    Birth:

    10
    Catuvellauni Territory, Wales



    Death:

    circa 60 (50)
    Rome, Lazio, Italy



    Immediate Family:


    Son of Cunobelinus ap Tasciovanus, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni and Wife of Cunobelinus
    Husband of Genuissa Claudia, Queen of Siluria
    Father of Togodumnus Catuvellauni; Eurgen ap Caradog, Princess Of Britain; Saint Claudia; St. Cyllin / Marius ap Caradog, King of Britain; Linus Lleyn ap Caradoc, Pope, 1st Bishop of Rome and




    Immediate Family:


    Son of Cunobelinus ap Tasciovanus, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni
    and Wife of Cunobelinus
    Husband of Genuissa Claudia, Queen of Siluria
    Father of Togodumnus Catuvellauni; Eurgen ap Caradog, Princess Of Britain; Saint Claudia; St. Cyllin / Marius ap Caradog, King of Britain;
    Linus Lleyn ap Caradoc, Pope, 1st Bishop of Rome; and Guid ap Caradog


    Brother of Adminius ap Cunobelin; Guiderius ap Cunobelin; Togodumnus ap Cunobelin and Gladys Ferch Cunobelin, of Camulod

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    Arvirargus (or Arviragus) was a legendary, and possibly historical,
    British king of the 1st century AD.

    A shadowy historical Arviragus is known only from a cryptic reference in a satirical poem by Juvenal, in which a giant turbot presented to the Roman emperor Domitian (AD 81 – 96) is said to be an omen that
    "you will capture some king,
    or Arviragus will fall from his British chariot-pole".

    Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae (1136)
    presents a legendary Arviragus who is contemporary
    with the emperor Claudius (AD 41-54).[2][3]

    However, Geoffrey's work is highly romanticized and contains little trustworthy historical fact, rendering his account of Arvirargus suspect.

    According to Geoffrey, Arvirargus is a son of the former king Kimbelinus.

    He succeeds to the throne of Britain after his elder brother, Guiderius,
    dies fighting the invading Romans under Claudius.

    Arviragus puts on his brother's armour and leads the army of the Britons
    against the Romans.

    When he learns that Claudius and his commander, Hamo,
    have fled into the woods, Arvirargus follows him until they reach the coast.

    The Britons kill Hamo as he tries to flee onto a ship and the place is named Southampton after him.

    Claudius is able to reassemble his troops elsewhere and he besieges Portchester until it falls to his forces.

    Following Hamo's death, Arvirargus seeks refuge at Winchester,
    but Claudius follows him there with his army.

    The Britons break the siege and attack the Romans,
    but Claudius halts the attack and offers a treaty.

    In exchange for peace and tribute with Rome,
    Claudius offers Arvirargus his own daughter in marriage.

    They accept each other's terms and Arvirargus aids Claudius in subduing Orkney and other northern lands.

    In the following spring, Arvirargus weds Claudius' daughter, Genvissa,
    and names the city of Gloucester after her father.

    Following the wedding, Claudius leaves Britain in the control of Arvirargus.

    In the years following Claudius' departure,
    Arvirargus rebuilds the cities that have been ruined
    and becomes feared by his neighbours.

    This causes him to halt his tribute to Rome,
    forcing Claudius to send Vespasian with an army to Britain.

    As Vespasian prepares to land, such a large British force stands ready that he flees to another port, Totnes, where he sets up camp.

    Once a base is established, he marches to Exeter and besieges the city.

    Arvirargus meets him in battle there and the fight is stalemated.

    The following morning, Queen Genvissa mediates peace between the two foes.

    Vespasian returnes to Rome and Arvirargus rules the country peacefully for some years.

    When he finally dies, he is buried in Gloucester, the city he built with Claudius.

    He is succeeded by his son, Marius.

    Geoffrey's legendary Arvirargus appears to correspond to some degree
    to the historical Caratacus, son of Cunobelinus, who,
    along with his brother Togodumnus, led the initial resistance to the Roman invasion of AD 43, and went on to be a thorn in Rome's side for nearly a decade after Togodumnus's death.[4]

    Welsh versions of Geoffrey's Historia call him Gweirydd and his brother Gwydr.

    Arvirargus is a character in William Shakespeare's play Cymbeline.

    He and his brother Guiderius had been kidnapped in childhood by Belarius,
    a nobleman wrongly banished by Cymbeline,
    and brought up in secret in Wales,
    but are reunited with their father and sister Imogen in time for the Roman invasion.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvirargus

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    Taking command of the British forces on the death of his brother Guiderius, Arvirgus emerged victor from a major skirmish with Claudius' troops.

    He eventually ruled the British as Rome's puppet-king,
    being interred in the city of Gloucester.

    British warriors at that time were famed for their ability to fight whilst standing on the pole of the chariot, and Arviragus was particularly adept
    at this as a certain Roman author testified:

    "Either you will catch a certain king, or else Arviragus will tumble from the British chariot-pole."

    Cassivelaunus.

    It was this king who withstood, in the year 55 BC,

    the invading armies of Julius Caesar.

    Arviragus was starved into submission after betrayal by Androgeus, his brother Lud's eldest son.

    The British resistance, however, had been great and fierce, evoking from the Roman author Lucan much praise concerning one particular engagement : Territa quaesitis ostendit terga Britannis, when Caesar fled in terror from the very Britons whom he'd come to attack!".

    The leader of the resistance to Caesar in both of his British campaigns. Cassivellaunus possibly formed the tribe later to become known as the Catuvellauni from a federation of smaller like-minded Belgic tribes
    living north of the Thames, specifically to counter Caesar.

    The next identifiable ruler of the Catuvellauni was Tasciovanus who came to power, though wh ether he was the son or grandson of Cassivellaunus is not known.

    [It is possible that Cassivellaunus should be translated as 'Vellaunus of the Cassi', i.e. his tribe was the Cassi and his name was Vellaunus.

    It follows that the name given to the amalgamated tribe
    gathered under his command could mean
    'the Followers1 or Smiters2 of Vellaunus'.
    1 Latin caterva crowd, troop, company, flock. 2 Gaelic cath to smite.]

    Author: Bill Cooper Title: After the Flood, Appendix 13 Britain's First Christian

    Author: Bill Cooper Title: The Table of Nations

    King of the Silures In a classical poem by Juvenal he is called the Black Bull.

    This probably refered to his strength and his black hair.

    The Welsh believe he was the King of Silures and lead forces against the Romans. He captured and taken to Rome where he was pardoned.
    Tradition says he returned to Wales and established the royal line
    from with the legendary King Arthur was descended.

    It is claimed that he was the King who welcomed Joseph of Arimathea
    to Britian in 63 b.c. and granted him land at Flastonbury for his church.

    Geoffrey of Monmouth, an ancient historian, who paid tribute to Roman and married Claudius' daughter.

    http://www.gencircles.com/users/nannyelc/1/data/12473
    •******************************

    {John S. Wurts, "Magna Charta," p. 2795: "...Arviragus, a Druid king, eleventh son of Cymbeline. Shakespeare tells

    of the kidnapping by Belarius of Cymbeline and his brother Guiderius."}

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    Granted land to Joseph of Arimathea (Jesus' uncle) in Glastonbury

    --------------------

    Refered to by the classical poet Juvenal as a "Black Bull",
    probably meaning his strength & his dark flowing hair,
    as he rode his chariot recklessly through the Romas streets terrifying Nero.

    Captured & taken to Rome where he was pardoned & married Genuissa Vanessa Claudia, the daughter of the Emperor Claudius.

    He returned to Britain & built the city of Gloucester, later defending Britain from invasion by Vespasian.

    Tradition states that Arviragus is the king
    who welcomed Joseph of Arimathea to Britain around 63 AD
    & granted him land at Glastonbury for his church.

    --------------------

    Though some people state his birth circa o44AD,
    having stated his eldest son was born circa 020
    and the one following this, circa 025,
    it's probably that his birth might have occurred circa 023
    or in between those two dates. --------------------


    Ruled 44-74 as tribute-paying king of Claudius, whose daughter he married

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Källor

    1) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jamesdow/s072/f000538.htm

    Taking command of the British forces on the death of his brother Guiderius, Arvirgu s emerged victor from a major skirmish with Claudius' troops.

    He eventually ruled the British as Rome's puppet-king,
    being interred in the city of Gloucester.

    British warriors at that time were famed for their ability to fight whilst standing on the pole of the chariot, and Arviragus was particularly adept at this as a certain Roman author testified:
    "Either you will catch a certain king, or else Arviragus will tumble from the British chariot-pole."

    Cassivelaunus.

    It was this king who withstood, in the year 55 BC, the invading armies of Julius Caesar. Arviragus was starved into submission after betrayal by Androgeus, his brother Lud's eldest son.

    The British resistance, however, had been great and fierce, evoking from the Roman author Lucan much praise concerning one particular engagement : Territa quaesitis ostendit terga Britannis, when Caesar fled in terror from the very Britons whom he'd come to attack!".

    The leader of the resistance to Caesar in both of his British campaigns. Cassivellaunus possibly formed the tribe later to become known as the Catuvellauni from a federation of smaller like-minded Belgic tribes living north of the Thames, specifically to counter Caesar.

    The next identifiable ruler of the Catuvellauni was Tasciovanus who came to power, though wh ether he was the son or grandson of Cassivellaunus is not known. [It is possible that Cassivellaunus should be translated as 'Vellaunus of the Cassi', i.e. his tribe was the Cassi and his name was Vellaunus. It follows that the name given to the amalgamated tribe gathered under his command could mean 'the Followers1 or Smiters2 of Vellaunus'. 1 Latin caterva crowd, troop, company, flock. 2 Gaelic cath to smite.]

    Author: Bill Cooper Title: After the Flood, Appendix 13 Britain's First Christian

    Author: Bill Cooper Title: The Table of Nations

    King of the Silures In a classical poem by Juvenal he is called the Black Bull. This probabl y refered to his strength and his black hair.

    The Welsh believe he was the King of Silures and lead forces against the Romans. He captured and taken to Rome where he was pardoned.

    Tradition says he returned to Wales and established the royal line from with the legendary King Arthur was descended.

    It is claimed that he was the King who welcomed Joseph of Arimathea to Britian in 63 b.c. and granted him land at Flastonbury for his church. Geoffrey of Monmouth, an ancient historian, who paid tribute to Roman and married Claudius' daughter. --------------------
    King of Britain
    --------------------
    King Gweirydd of the Britons was also called Arviragus of the Trinovantes.

    Gweirydd was a legendary, and possibly historical, British king of the 1st century AD.

    A shadowy historical Gweirydd (Arviragus) is known only from a cryptic reference in a satirical poem by Juvenal, in which a giant turbot presented to the Roman Emperor Domitian (AD 81 – 96) is said to be an omen that
    "you will capture some king,
    or Arviragus will fall from his British chariot-pole".

    Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae (1136) presented a legendary Gweirydd who was contemporary with the Emperor Claudius. However, Geoffrey's work was highly romanticized and contains little trustworthy historical fact, rendering his account of Gweirydd suspect.

    There was "neuer king more highly magnifide, Nor dred of Romanes, then was Aruirage, For which the Emperour to him allide His daughter Genuiss' in marriage: Yet shortly he renounst the vassalage Of Rome againe, who hither hastly sent Vespasian, that with great spoile and rage Forwasted all, till Genuissa gent Perswaded him to ceasse, and her Lord to relent."

    According to Geoffrey, Gweirydd was a son of the former King Kimbelinus. He succeeded to the throne of Britain after his elder brother, Guiderius, died fighting the invading Romans under Claudius. Gweirydd put on his brother's armor and led the army of the Britons against the Romans. When he learned that Claudius and his commander, Hamo, had fled into the woods, Gweirydd followed him until they reached the coast.

    The Britons killed Hamo (in AD 44) as he tried to flee onto a ship,
    and the place was named Southampton after him.

    Claudius was able to reassemble his troops elsewhere and he besieged Portchester until it fell to his forces.

    Following Hamo's death, Gweirydd sought refuge at Winchester, but Claudius followed him there with his army.

    The Britons broke the siege and attacked the Romans, but Claudius halted the attack and offered a treaty. In exchange for peace and tribute with Rome, Claudius offered Gweirydd his own daughter in marriage.

    They accepted each other's terms and Gweirydd aided Claudius in subduing Orkney and other northern lands.

    In the following spring, Gweirydd wed Claudius's daughter, Genvissa, and named the city of Gloucester after her father. Following the wedding, Claudius left Britain in the control of Gweirydd. In the years following Claudius's departure, Gweirydd rebuilt the cities that had been ruined and became feared by his neighbors.

    This caused him to halt his tribute to Rome, forcing Claudius to send Vespasian with an army to Britain. As Vespasian prepared to land, such a large British force stood ready that he fled to another port, Totnes, where he set up camp.

    Once a base was established, he marched to Exeter and besieged the city. Gweirydd met him in battle there, and the fight was stalemated. The following morning, Queen Genvissa mediated peace between the two foes.

    Vespasian returned to Rome and Gweirydd ruled the country peacefully for some years. When he finally died, he was buried in Gloucester, the city he had built with Claudius. He was succeeded by his son, Marius.

    Geoffrey's legendary Gweirydd (Arvirargus) appeared to correspond to some degree to the historical Caratacus, son of Cunobelinus, who, along with his brother Togodumnus, led the initial resistance to the Roman invasion of AD 43,
    and went on to be a thorn in Rome's side for nearly a decade after Togodumnus's death.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvirargus for more information.

    Also see "My Lines"

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p268.htm#i10322 )

    from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

    ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm ) -------------------- Kung över Silurisk stam. Blev ca 59 år.

    Noteringar

    Ruled 44-74 as tribute-paying king of Claudius, whose daughter he married

    --------------------

    Caradog ap Bran is the son of Bran the Blessed in Welsh mythology.

    According to the Second Branch of the Mabinogi, Caradog was chief of seven leaders left in charge of Britain when Bran's company travels to Ireland
    to rescue his sister Branwen from her abusive husband Matholwch.

    While Bran is away, the disgruntled Caswallawn (based on the historical Cassivellaunus, who fought Julius Caesar)
    dons a cloak of invisibility and slays Caradog's associates.

    He had intended to spare Caradog, his cousin,
    but Caradog dies of shock upon seeing what appeared to be a floating sword murdering his companions.

    Caswallawn then takes Bran's place as King of the Britons.

    Caradog's death is mentioned in one of the Welsh Triads;

    another Triad names him as one of the Three Supreme Servants of the Isle of Britain.

    Several children are attributed to him, including Caradog ap Caradog and Eudaf.

    Caradog is often confused with several others named Caradoc.

    One of these is Caratacus, who fought the Roman legions at the time of Roman Emperor Claudius' invasion of Britain in AD 43.

    He is also confused with the Arthurian character Caradoc Vreichvras.

    wikipedia.com

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caratacus

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    Taken prisoner in Rome by Claudius

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    Taken prisoner in Rome by Claudius

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    Taken prisoner in Rome by Claudius

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    Taken prisoner in Rome by Claudius

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    Caratacus King of Britain (Cantii tribe)

    Born :

    Died : Taken prisoner in Rome by Claudius

    Ruled Cantii from c40, Catuvellauni and Silures 43-51

    Father Cynfelyn King of Britain (Trinovantes tribe)

    Mother

    Marriage ?

    Children - - Cyllin Prince of Britain (Catuvellauni tribe)

    Forrás / Source:

    http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/persons/per08611.htm#0

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    CARACTACUS 'CARADOG' PENDRAGON ap CUNOBELINAS-'CYMBELINE'

    BIRTH: Abt 6 A.D. in Trevan, Llanillid, Glamorganshire, Wales

    DEATH: 54 A.D. in Rome, Italy

    FATHER: Cunobelinas-'Cymbeline' ap TASCIOVANUS-TENANTIUS - Abt 34 B.C. in Glamorganshire, Wales

    MOTHER: Cartismandua of the BRIGATES

    FIRST MARRIAGE: Abt 35 A.D. - Julia Gerunda verch TIBERIUS CLAUDIUS DRUSUS NERO

    BIRTH: Abt 10 A.D. in Lugundum, (Lyons), Gaul (France)

    CHILD:

    1. Gladys 'Claudia' verch CARACTACUS - Abt 36 A.D. in Lugundum, (Lyons), Gaul (France)

    SECOND MARRIAGE: Abt 38 A.D. - Eurgain verch MEURIG

    BIRTH: Abt 15 A.D. in Colchester, Essex, England

    CHILDREN:

    2. Lleyn ap CARACTACUS - Abt 39 A.D. in Trevan, Llanillid, Glamorganshire, Wales

    3. Eurgain verch CARACTACUS - Abt 41 A.D. in Trevan, Llanillid, Glamorganshire, Wales

    4. Cyllin Seal ap CARACTACUS - Abt 45 A.D. in Trevan, Llanillid, Glamorganshire, Wales

    5. Linus 'Kynan' ap CARACTACUS - Abt 47 A.D. in Silures, Glamorganshire, Wales

    Caractacus was a historical British chieftain and the main Welsh leader of the Catuvellauni tribe. He led the British resistance to the Roman conquest. He was also known as Caradog.

    Caratacus and his brother Togodumnus led the initial defence of the country against Aulus Plautius's legions, primarily using guerrilla tactics, but were defeated in two crucial battles on the rivers Medway (see Battle of Medway) and Thames. Togodumnus was killed and the Catuvellauni's territories conquered, but Caratacus survived and carried on the resistance further west.

    Caratacus is found in Tacitus's Annals, leading the Silures and Ordovices in what is now Wales against Plautius's successor as governor, Publius Ostorius Scapula. A fort was erected in 49 AD near what is now Gloucester. Along with this fort and a network of others brought pressure to bear upon the Silures, which forced Caratacus to flee to the Ordovices. In 51, Scapula managed to defeat Caractacus in the Battle of Caer Caradock somewhere in Ordivician territory, capturing Caractacus's wife and daughter and receiving the surrender of his brothers. Caratacus himself escaped, and fled north to the lands of the Brigantes. The Brigantian queen, Cartimandua, however, was loyal to Rome, and she handed him over in chains.

    Caractacus supposedly made the following speech taken from the 'Tacitus Annals':

    "Had my moderation in prosperity been equal to my noble birth and fortune,

    I should have entered this city as your friend rather than as your

    captive; and you would not have disdained to recieve, under a treaty of

    peace, a king descended from illustrious ancestors and ruling many

    nations. My present lot is as glorious to you as it is degrading to

    myself. I had men and horses, arms and wealth. What wonder if I parted

    with them reluctantly? If you Romans choose to lord it over the world,

    does it follow that the world is to accept slavery? Were I to have been

    at once delivered up as a prisoner, neither my fall nor your triumph would

    have become famous. My punishment would be followed by oblivion, whereas,

    if you save my life, I shall be an everlasting memoirial of your clemency."

    Tacitus tells us that Agrippina granted clemency to Caratacus and his family

    after this speech.

    SOURCE: Ancient Cultures: Welshpool History:

    http://www.welshpool.org/welshpool1/history_ancient.html

    --------------------

    CARACTACUS 'CARADOG' PENDRAGON ap CUNOBELINAS-'CYMBELINE'

    BIRTH: Abt 6 A.D. in Trevan, Llanillid, Glamorganshire, Wales

    DEATH: 54 A.D. in Rome, Italy

    FATHER: Cunobelinas-'Cymbeline' ap TASCIOVANUS-TENANTIUS - Abt 34 B.C. in Glamorganshire, Wales

    MOTHER: Cartismandua of the BRIGATES

    FIRST MARRIAGE: Abt 35 A.D. - Julia Gerunda verch TIBERIUS CLAUDIUS DRUSUS NERO

    BIRTH: Abt 10 A.D. in Lugundum, (Lyons), Gaul (France)

    CHILD:

    1. Gladys 'Claudia' verch CARACTACUS - Abt 36 A.D. in Lugundum, (Lyons), Gaul (France)

    SECOND MARRIAGE: Abt 38 A.D. - Eurgain verch MEURIG

    BIRTH: Abt 15 A.D. in Colchester, Essex, England

    CHILDREN:

    2. Lleyn ap CARACTACUS - Abt 39 A.D. in Trevan, Llanillid, Glamorganshire, Wales

    3. Eurgain verch CARACTACUS - Abt 41 A.D. in Trevan, Llanillid, Glamorganshire, Wales

    4. Cyllin Seal ap CARACTACUS - Abt 45 A.D. in Trevan, Llanillid, Glamorganshire, Wales

    5. Linus 'Kynan' ap CARACTACUS - Abt 47 A.D. in Silures, Glamorganshire, Wales

    Caractacus was a historical British chieftain and the main Welsh leader of the Catuvellauni tribe. He led the British resistance to the Roman conquest. He was also known as Caradog.

    Caratacus and his brother Togodumnus led the initial defence of the country against Aulus Plautius's legions, primarily using guerrilla tactics, but were defeated in two crucial battles on the rivers Medway (see Battle of Medway) and Thames. Togodumnus was killed and the Catuvellauni's territories conquered, but Caratacus survived and carried on the resistance further west.

    Caratacus is found in Tacitus's Annals, leading the Silures and Ordovices in what is now Wales against Plautius's successor as governor, Publius Ostorius Scapula. A fort was erected in 49 AD near what is now Gloucester. Along with this fort and a network of others brought pressure to bear upon the Silures, which forced Caratacus to flee to the Ordovices. In 51, Scapula managed to defeat Caractacus in the Battle of Caer Caradock somewhere in Ordivician territory, capturing Caractacus's wife and daughter and receiving the surrender of his brothers. Caratacus himself escaped, and fled north to the lands of the Brigantes. The Brigantian queen, Cartimandua, however, was loyal to Rome, and she handed him over in chains.

    Caractacus supposedly made the following speech taken from the 'Tacitus Annals':

    "Had my moderation in prosperity been equal to my noble birth and fortune,

    I should have entered this city as your friend rather than as your

    captive; and you would not have disdained to recieve, under a treaty of

    peace, a king descended from illustrious ancestors and ruling many

    nations. My present lot is as glorious to you as it is degrading to

    myself. I had men and horses, arms and wealth. What wonder if I parted

    with them reluctantly? If you Romans choose to lord it over the world,

    does it follow that the world is to accept slavery? Were I to have been

    at once delivered up as a prisoner, neither my fall nor your triumph would

    have become famous. My punishment would be followed by oblivion, whereas,

    if you save my life, I shall be an everlasting memoirial of your clemency."

    Tacitus tells us that Agrippina granted clemency to Caratacus and his family

    after this speech.

    SOURCE: Ancient Cultures: Welshpool History:

    http://www.welshpool.org/welshpool1/history_ancient.html -------------------- King of Siluria (now Monmouthshire, etc.), where he died. He was born at Trevan, Llanilid, in Glamorganshire. His valiant services to his country have been told in connection with the attempted invasions of the island. The Bards record his wise saying: "Oppression persisted in brings on death."

    Caradoc (Caractacus) was King of Siluria (now Monmouthshire, etc.),

    where he died. He was born at Trevan, Llanilid, in Glamorganshire. His

    valiant services to his country have been told in connection with the

    attempted invasions of the island. The Bards record his wise saying:

    "Oppression persisted in brings on death." He had three sons and two

    daughters as follows:

    o 1. Cyllin (Cyllinus). See below.

    o 2. Lleyn (Linus) the Martyr.

    o 3. Cynon

    o 4. Eurgain

    o 5. Gladys (Claudia), was adopted by Emperor Claudius and became

    Claudius Britannica. In her 17th year she married Rufus Pudens., a

    Roman Senator. She died in 97 A.D. She and her two sons and two

    daughters were instructed by St. Paul in the Christian faith.

    Around 100 A.D. all the children suffered martyrdom in Rome under

    Nero, who at age 16 succeeded Claudius as Emperor on September 28,

    53 A.D. -------------------- Reference: http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rwfurtaw&id=I71348&ti=5538 -------------------- AVARIGUS ap CUNOBELINAS'CYMBELINE'

    BIRTH: Abt 10 A.D. on Isle of Avalon, Glastonbury, Somerset, England

    DEATH: Abt 74 A.D.

    FATHER: Cunobelinas-'Cymbeline' ap TASCIOVANUS TENANTIUS - Abt 34 B.C.

    MOTHER: Cartismandua of the BRIGATES

    MARRIAGE: Genuissa 'Vanessa' ap TIBERIUS CLAUDIUS DRUSUS NERO of Rome

    BIRTH: Abt 10 A.D. in (Lugundum) Lyons, (Gaul) France

    CHILD:

    1. Marius Meric ap AVARIGUS - Abt 30 A.D. probably in Somerset, England

    He became a christian converted by Joseph of Arimathea

    after his arrival to Britain.

    NOTE: Some believe that "Avarigus" was a TITLE meaning "High King",

    and that AVARIGUS was the same person as CARADOC/CARACTACUS,

    and not his brother.

    I have kept them as separate individuals until I see further evidence.

    (Researcher: Dale Updike, Dec., 2005) -------------------- 2108788192027528. King Arviragus BRITAIN,1601,1746 son of King Cymbeline BRITAIN and Unknown, was born in 50 in , Avalon, Southern England and died in 74 at age 24.

    General Notes:

    [From Geoffey of Monmouth, The History of the Kings of Britain, trans. Lewis Thorpe (London:1966)]

    He (Claudius) therefore proposed peace to him (Arvirargus), promising to give him his own daughter, if only he would recognize that the kingdom of Britain was under the sway of Rome. His nobles persuaded Arvirargus to abandon his plans for battle and to accept the proposals of Claudius. Their argument was that it could be no disgrace for him to submit to the Romans, since they were the acknowledged overlords of the whole world. Arvirargus was swayed by these arguments and by others of a similar nature. He accepted their advice and submitted to Claudius. Claudius soon sent to Rome for his daughter. With the help of Arvirargus he subdued the Orkneys and the other islands in that neighbourhood.

    At the end of that winter the messengers returned with Claudius' daughter and handed her over to her father. The girl's name was Genvissa (=Genuissa). Her beauty was such that everyone who saw her was filled with admiration. Once she had been united with him in lawful marriage, she inflamed the King with such burning passion that he preferred her company to anything else in the world. As a result of this Arvirargus made up his mind to give some special mark of distinction to the place where he had married her. He suggested to Claudius that the two of them should found there a city which should perpetuate in times to come the memory of so happy a marriage. Claudius agreed and ordered a town to be built which should be called Kaerglou or Gloucester. Down to our own day it retains its site on the bank of the Severn, between Wales and Loegria. Some, however, say that it took its name from Duke Gloius, whom Claudius fathered in that city and to whom he granted control of the duchy of the Welsh after Arvirargus.

    Arviragus married Queen Of Brittany Venus Julia (Venissa) ROMAN EMPIRE 1601 in <, , , Great Britain>. Venus was born in 25 in Rome, Roma, , Lazio, Italy and died in Britain. Other names for Venus were Queen of Brittany Genuissa ROMAN EMPIRE, and Queen of Brittany Venissa ROMAN EMPIRE.

    The child from this marriage was:

    1054394096013764 i. Meric "Marius" King Of Britain (born in , , , Great Britain - died in 125 in , , , Great Britain)

    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mgholler/Caden/a51.htm#i547458883 -------------------- biographical and/or anecdotal: King of Siluria (now Monmouthshire, etc.), where he died. He was born at Trevan, Llanilid, in Glamorganshire. His valiant services to his country have been told in connection with the attempted invasions of the island. The Bards record his wise saying: "Oppression persisted in brings on death."

    notes or source: ancestry.com & HBJ King Caradoc's birth-book (pedigree register) records his own as well as others' descent from illustrious ancestors, through thirty-six generations from *Aedd Mawr

    Caratacus, the First British Hero

    An historical person with some legendary accretions, Caratacus (also spelled Caractacus) was the king of the Catuvellauni at the time of the Roman invasion under their commander, Aulus Plautius. Caratacus emerges from history as one of the few early Britons with a distinct personality, thanks in large part to the accounts of Tacitus and Cassius Dio. He and his brother, Togodumnus, were said to be sons of the British king, Cunobelinus, and, after the king's death, became the leaders of the anti-Roman campaign that managed to resist the invaders for a period of nearly nine years.*

    After some early defeats in the east, Caratacus moved west into more rugged territories that would be easier to defend. His numerically inferior forces survived an indecisive engagement with the Romans in the land of the Silures (modern-day Glamorgan in Wales) and so Caratacus moved north, to the land of the Ordovices (central Gwynedd, southern Clwyd, northern Powys) to find the ideal location for a battle which he intended to be decisive.

    Caratacus' final defeat came at the hands of the Roman governor, Ostorious Scapula, in 51 AD. Although his forces were defeated, Caratacus was not killed in the battle and managed to escape to the land of the Brigantes in northern Britain, where he hoped to find safety and a base for future resistance to the Romans. Unfortunately for him, Cartimandua, the Queen of the Brigantes, was bound by a client-ruler relationship with the Romans, so she handed Caratacus over to them.

    He was sent to Rome along with other captives, where he came to Claudius' attention for his courtesy and bearing and so was pardoned. He and his family were permitted to live out their lives in peace in Italy, but the date of his death is unknown.

    The account of these events is taken from Tacitus' "Annals," Book XII (translated by Alfred John Church and William Jackson Brodribb): The army then marched against the Silures, a naturally fierce people and now full of confidence in the might of Caratacus, who by many an indecisive and many a successful battle had raised himself far above all the other generals of the Britons. Inferior in military strength, but deriving an advantage from the deceptiveness of the country, he at once shifted the war by a stratagem into the territory of the Ordovices, where, joined by all who dreaded peace with us, he resolved on a final struggle. He selected a position for the engagement in which advance and retreat alike would be difficult for our men and comparatively easy for his own, and then on some lofty hills, wherever their sides could be approached by a gentle slope, he piled up stones to serve as a rampart. A river too of varying depth was in his front, and his armed bands were drawn up before his defences.

    Then too the chieftains of the several tribes went from rank to rank, encouraging and confirming the spirit of their men by making light of their fears, kindling their hopes, and by every other warlike incitement. As for Caratacus, he flew hither and thither, protesting that that day and that battle would be the beginning of the recovery of their freedom, or of everlasting bondage. He appealed, by name, to their forefathers who had driven back the dictator Caesar, by whose valour they were free from the Roman axe and tribute, and still preserved inviolate the persons of their wives and of their children. While he was thus speaking, the host shouted applause; every warrior bound himself by his national oath not to shrink from weapons or wounds.

    Such enthusiasm confounded the Roman general. The river too in his face, the rampart they had added to it, the frowning hilltops, the stern resistance and masses of fighting men everywhere apparent, daunted him. But his soldiers insisted on battle, exclaiming that valour could overcome all things; and the prefects and tribunes, with similar language, stimulated the ardour of the troops. Ostorius having ascertained by a survey the inaccessible and the assailable points of the position, led on his furious men, and crossed the river without difficulty. When he reached the barrier, as long as it was a fight with missiles, the wounds and the slaughter fell chiefly on our soldiers; but when he had formed the military testudo, and the rude, ill-compacted fence of stones was torn down, and it was an equal hand-to-hand engagement, the barbarians retired to the heights. Yet even there, both light and heavy-armed soldiers rushed to the attack; the first harassed the foe with missiles, while the latter closed with them, and the opposing ranks of the Britons were broken, destitute as they were of the defence of breast-plates or helmets. When they faced the auxiliaries, they were felled by the swords and javelins of our legionaries; if they wheeled round, they were again met by the sabres and spears of the auxiliaries. It was a glorious victory; the wife and daughter of Caratacus were captured, and his brothers too were admitted to surrender.

    There is seldom safety for the unfortunate, and Caratacus, seeking the protection of Cartimandua, queen of the Brigantes, was put in chains and delivered up to the conquerors, nine years after the beginning of the war in Britain. His fame had spread thence, and travelled to the neighbouring islands and provinces, and was actually celebrated in Italy. All were eager to see the great man, who for so many years had defied our power. Even at Rome the name of Caratacus was no obscure one; and the emperor, while he exalted his own glory, enhanced the renown of the vanquished. The people were summoned as to a grand spectacle; the praetorian cohorts were drawn up under arms in the plain in front of their camp; then came a procession of the royal vassals, and the ornaments and neck-chains and the spoils which the king had won in wars with other tribes, were displayed. Next were to be seen his brothers, his wife and daughter; last of all, Caratacus himself. All the rest stooped in their fear to abject supplication; not so the king, who neither by humble look nor speech sought compassion.

    When he was set before the emperor's tribunal, he spoke as follows: "Had my moderation in prosperity been equal to my noble birth and fortune, I should have entered this city as your friend rather than as your captive; and you would not have disdained to receive, under a treaty of peace, a king descended from illustrious ancestors and ruling many nations. My present lot is as glorious to you as it is degrading to myself. I had men and horses, arms and wealth. What wonder if I parted with them reluctantly? If you Romans choose to lord it over the world, does it follow that the world is to accept slavery? Were I to have been at once delivered up as a prisoner, neither my fall nor your triumph would have become famous. My punishment would be followed by oblivion, whereas, if you save my life, I shall be an everlasting memorial of your clemency."

    Upon this the emperor granted pardon to Caratacus, to his wife, and to his brothers. Released from their bonds, they did homage also to Agrippina who sat near, conspicuous on another throne, in the same language of praise and gratitude. Tacitus, in his account, gives us all the other details but fails to name the location of Caratacus' final battle. "One particular problem that has prompted much debate centres on locating the so-called last stand of Caratacus - who had strategically chosen to move the scene of his activities from the territory of the Silures to that of the Ordovices. Folk memory or antiquarianism has given the name Caer Caradog (Caratacus' fort) to three hillforts, one dominating the Church Stretton gap, another south of Clun and the third in Clwyd. Although the second is relatively close to known Roman marching camps around Leintwardine, none have produced and evidence of investment. Moreover, all lack the nearby river required by the Tacitean narrative. . ."A more likely possibility is offered by the massive limestone spur of Llanymynech which dominates the western edge of the north Shropshire plain. Evidence of a Roman campaign base has now emerged at the western foot of the massif close to a newly discovered Julio-Claudian fort at Llansantffraid to make Llanymynech a strong candidate for identification as Caratacus' chosen position." **

    Excavations done at the above-mentioned locales have failed to produce any conclusive archaeological fruit. So, it would seem that any location that one chooses as one's favourite candidate for Caratacus' "last stand," so long as it meets Tacitus' topographical qualifications and is found in northeastern Wales or western Shropshire, is as valid a place as any.

    Some investigators have come to the conclusion that Caratacus is the historic original for King Arthur, while others insist that he and Arviragus, another early British figure in the anti-Roman resistance, are one and the same.

    ....................................................
    •Cottrell, Leonard, "The Roman Invasion of Britain," Barnes & Noble, New York, 1992, p.91 •Jones, Barri and David Mattingly, "An Atlas of Roman Britain," Blackwell Publishers, Oxford, 1990. p. 66-7


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    Caratacus From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

    Caratacus (also spelled Caractacus) was a historical British chieftain of the Catuvellauni tribe, who led the British resistance to the Roman conquest. He may correspond with the legendary Welsh character Caradog (also written Caradoc, Caradawg) and the legendary British king Arvirargus.

    History Caratacus is named by Dio Cassius as a son of the Catuvellaunian king Cunobelinus (the inspiration for William Shakespeare's Cymbeline). Based on coin distribution Caratacus appears to have been the protegé of his uncle Epaticcus, who expanded Catuvellaunian power westwards into the territory of the Atrebates. After Epaticcus died ca. 35 AD, the Atrebates, under Verica, regained some of their territory, but it appears Caratacus completed the conquest, as Dio tells us Verica was ousted, fled to Rome and appealed to the emperor Claudius for help. This was the excuse Claudius used to launch his invasion of Britain in 43.

    Cunobelinus had died some time before the invasion. Caratacus and his brother Togodumnus led the initial defence of the country against Aulus Plautius's legions, primarily using guerilla tactics, but were defeated in two crucial battles on the rivers Medway (see Battle of Medway) and Thames. Togodumnus was killed and the Catuvellauni's territories conquered, but Caratacus survived and carried on the resistance further west.

    We next hear of Caratacus in Tacitus's Annals, leading the Silures and Ordovices in what is now Wales against Plautius's successor as governor, Publius Ostorius Scapula. Finally, in 51, Scapula managed to defeat Caratacus in a set-piece battle somewhere in Ordivician territory (see the Battle of Caer Caradock), capturing Caratacus's wife and daughter and receiving the surrender of his brothers. Caratacus himself escaped, and fled north to the lands of the Brigantes. The Brigantian queen, Cartimandua, however, was loyal to Rome, and she handed him over in chains. This was one of the events that led to an eventual Brigantian uprising against Cartimandua, and then the Romans, from 69-71AD led by Venutius, who had once been Cartimandua's husband.

    Legend places Caratacus' last stand at British Camp in the Malvern Hills,
    but the description of Tacitus makes this unlikely:

    Caracticus played his final card and chose a site for a battle
    so that the approaches, the escape routes, everything,
    was awkward for us and to his side's advantage.

    On one side there were steep hills.

    Wherever approaches were gentle he piled boulders into a sort of rampart.

    In front of him flowed a river of doubtful fordability
    and squadrons of armed men were in position on the defences.

    Although the Severn is visible from British Camp,
    it is nowhere near it, so this battle must have taken place elsewhere.

    After his capture, Caratacus was sent to Rome as a war prize,
    presumably to be killed after a triumphal parade.

    Although a captive, he was allowed to speak to the Roman senate.

    Tacitus records a version of his speech in which he says that his stubborn resistance made Rome's glory in defeating him all the greater, viz;

    Had my moderation in prosperity been equal to my noble birth and fortune, I should have entered this city as your friend rather than as your captive; and you would not have disdained to receive, under a treaty of peace, a king descended from illustrious ancestors and ruling many nations. My present lot is as glorious to you as it is degrading to myself. I had men and horses, arms and wealth. What wonder if I parted with them reluctantly? If you Romans choose to lord it over the world, does it follow that the world is to accept slavery? Were I to have been at once delivered up as a prisoner, neither my fall nor your triumph would have become famous. My punishment would be followed by oblivion, whereas, if you save my life, I shall be an everlasting memorial of your clemency. He made such an impression that he was pardoned and allowed to live in peace in Rome. After his liberation, according to Dio Cassius, Caratacus was so impressed by the city of Rome that he said "Why do you, who possess so many palaces, covet our poor tents?"

    Caratacus's name Older translations of Tacitus tend to favour the spelling "Caractacus", but modern scholars agree, based on historical linguistics and source criticism, that the correct form is "Caratacus", pronounced "ka-ra-TAH-kus", which gives the attested names Caradog in Welsh and Carthach in Irish.

    British legend Caratacus's name survived in British legend as Caradawg, Cradawg or Caradog, although his true historical context appears to have been forgotten. He appears in the Mabinogion, where he is named as a son of Bran the Blessed. He is left in charge of Britain while his father makes war in Ireland, but is overthrown by Caswallawn (the historical Cassivellaunus, who lived a century earlier than Caratacus). The Welsh Triads agree that he was the son of Bran the Blessed and name two sons, Cawrdaf and Eudaf. A later collection of Triads compiled by the 18th century Welsh antiquarian Iolo Morganwg, the authenticity of which is doubtful, adds that Caradawg's father Bran was held hostage by the Romans for seven years, and brought Christianity to Britain on his return. Iolo also makes the legendary king Coel a son of Caradawg's son Cyllen. Caradawg's line is traced through Bran to Aedd Mawr, giving him claim to the throne of Siluria (Monmouthshire).

    A genealogy of Lot, king of Lothian, Orkney, and Norway in Arthurian legend, appears in the medieval manuscript known as Harleian MS 3859. Three generations of his line read "Caratauc map Cinbelin map Teuhant". This is the equivalent of "Caratacus, son of Cunobelinus, son of Tasciovanus", putting the three historical figures in the correct order, although the wrong historical context, the degree of linguistic change suggesting a long period of oral transmission. This is particularly interesting as Tasciovanus's name does not appear in any surviving classical text or legendary tale, and has only been rediscovered in the 20th century through coin legends. The remainder of the genealogy contains the names of a sequence of Roman emperors, and two Welsh mythological figures, Guidgen (Gwydion) and Lou (Llew).

    Caratacus does not appear in Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae, although he may correspond to Arvirargus, a son of Cymbeline (Gweirydd, son of Cynfelyn, in Welsh versions).

    Caratacus and Christianity Caratacus is described as a "barbarian Christian" in Dio Cassius's Roman History (Epitome of Book LXI, 33:3c [1], Earnest Cary's translation for the Loeb Classical Library, 1914-1927). This is a fragment of a lost passage of Dio, preserved in two variant versions in the 6th century Excerpta Vaticana and by the 12th century chronicler Joannes Zonaras, both Christian documents which may not accurately reflect Dio's original. It should be noted that Herbert Baldwin Foster's 1904 translation [2] reads "Carnetacus, a barbarian chieftain".

    A theory popularised in The Drama of the Lost Disciples, a 1961 book by the British Israelite pseudohistorian George Jowett, claims that he was a Christian before he came to Rome, and members of his family who were brought to Rome with him became important figures in the early Christian movement.

    The theory centres on Claudia Rufina, a historical British woman known to the poet Martial (Epigrams XI:53). Jowett identifies her as a daughter of Caratacus, and with the the Claudia mentioned in 2 Timothy in the New Testament. Martial describes Claudia's marriage to a man named Pudens (Epigrams IV:13), in all likelihood his friend Aulus Pudens, to whom he addresses numerous poems; Jowett's theory identifies him with St. Pudens, an early Christian saint whom he claims was the half-brother of St. Paul. The historical Pope Linus is claimed to be Caratacus's son on the basis of being described as the "brother of Claudia" in an early church document. The basilica of Santa Pudenziana in Rome was supposedly once called the Palatium Britannicum and was the home of Caratacus and his family.

    However, Jowett's book is a pious fraud based on the deliberate distortion of sources and cannot be relied upon.

    -------------------- Some historians and writers place an alternative birthplace in Archenfield, Herefordshire, England, as well as being his parents 19 or 20 years old at his birth. --------------------
    About Arvirargus ap Cunobelin, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni: Arvirargus (or Arviragus) was a legendary, and possibly historical,
    British king of the 1st century AD. A shadowy historical
    Arviragus is known only from a cryptic reference in a satirical poem
    by Juvenal, in which a giant turbot presented to the Roman emperor Domitian (AD 81 – 96) is said to be an omen that
    "you will capture some king, or Arviragus will fall from his British chariot-pole".

    Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae (1136) presents a legendary Arviragus who is contemporary with the emperor Claudius (AD 41-54).

    However, Geoffrey's work is highly romanticized and contains little trustworthy historical fact, rendering his account of Arvirargus suspect. According to Geoffrey, Arvirargus is a son of the former king Kimbelinus.

    He succeeds to the throne of Britain after his elder brother, Guiderius, dies fighting the invading Romans under Claudius.

    Arviragus puts on his brother's armour and leads the army of the Britons against the Romans.

    When he learns that Claudius and his commander, Hamo, have fled into the woods, Arvirargus follows him until they reach the coast.

    The Britons kill Hamo as he tries to flee onto a ship and the place is named Southampton after him.

    Claudius is able to reassemble his troops elsewhere and he besieges Portchester until it falls to his forces.

    Following Hamo's death, Arvirargus seeks refuge at Winchester,
    but Claudius follows him there with his army.

    The Britons break the siege and attack the Romans,
    but Claudius halts the attack and offers a treaty.

    In exchange for peace and tribute with Rome,
    Claudius offers Arvirargus his own daughter in marriage.

    They accept each other's terms and Arvirargus aids Claudius in subduing Orkney and other northern lands.

    In the following spring, Arvirargus weds Claudius' daughter, Genvissa, and names the city of Gloucester after her father.

    Following the wedding, Claudius leaves Britain in the control of Arvirargus.

    In the years following Claudius' departure, Arvirargus rebuilds the cities that have been ruined and becomes feared by his neighbours.

    This causes him to halt his tribute to Rome, forcing Claudius to send Vespasian with an army to Britain.

    As Vespasian prepares to land, such a large British force stands ready that he flees to another port, Totnes, where he sets up camp. Once a base is established, he marches to Exeter and besieges the city.

    Arvirargus meets him in battle there and the fight is stalemated.
    The following morning, Queen Genvissa mediates peace between the two foes. Vespasian returnes to Rome and Arvirargus rules the country peacefully
    for some years.

    When he finally dies, he is buried in Gloucester, the city he built with Claudius. He is succeeded by his son, Marius. Geoffrey's legendary Arvirargus appears to correspond to some degree to the historical Caratacus,
    son of Cunobelinus, who, along with his brother Togodumnus, led the initial resistance to the Roman invasion of AD 43,
    and went on to be a thorn in Rome's side for nearly a decade
    after Togodumnus's death.

    Welsh versions of Geoffrey's Historia call him Gweirydd and his brother Gwydr.

    Arvirargus is a character in William Shakespeare's play Cymbeline.

    He and his brother Guiderius had been kidnapped in childhood by Belarius,
    a nobleman wrongly banished by Cymbeline,
    and brought up in secret in Wales,
    but are reunited with their father and sister Imogen
    in time for the Roman invasion.

    Taking command of the British forces on the death of his brother Guiderius, Arvirgu s emerged victor from a major skirmish with Claudius' troops.

    He eventually ruled the British as Rome's puppet-king,
    being interred in the city of Gloucester.

    British warriors at that time were famed for their ability to fight
    whilst standing on the pole of the chariot,
    and Arviragus was particularly adept
    at this as a certain Roman author testified:

    "Either you will catch a certain king, or else Arviragus will tumble from the British chariot-pole."

    Cassivelaunus.

    It was this king who withstood, in the year 55 BC,
    the invading armies of Julius Caesar.

    Arviragus was starved into submission after betrayal by Androgeus,
    his brother Lud's eldest son.

    The British resistance, however, had been great and fierce,
    evoking from the Roman author Lucan much praise concerning
    one particular engagement :

    Territa quaesitis ostendit terga Britannis,
    when Caesar fled in terror from the very Britons whom he'd come to attack!".

    The leader of the resistance to Caesar in both of his British campaigns.

    Cassivellaunus possibly formed the tribe later to become known as the Catuvellauni from a federation of smaller like-minded Belgic tribes
    living north of the Thames, specifically to counter Caesar.

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    Owain Eurgen ap Marius Cyllin, King of Wales is your 56th great grandfather.
    Julia, of the Iceni is your 57th great grandmother.

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    Boudicca, Queen of the Iceni is your 58th great grandmother.
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    Prasutagus, Brenin o Iceni is your 58th great grandfather.
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    Prasutagus, Brenin o Iceni is your 58th great grandfather.



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    Husband of Boudicca, Queen of the Iceni
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    Boudicca, Brehines o Iceni MP




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    THE PENDRAGON LINEAGE
    KING ARTHUR

    Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons is your 40th great grandfather.
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    Uther Pendragon "The Head Dragon" ap Custennyn, King of Britons

    Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons is your 40th great grandfather.

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    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
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    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
    his mother



    Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard
    her mother



    Joan de Menteith
    her mother



    Helena of Mar
    her mother



    Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar
    her father



    Elen ferch Llywelyn, Countess
    his mother



    Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
    her father



    Marared verch Madog
    his mother



    Madog ap Maredudd
    her father



    Maredudd ap Bleddyn
    his father



    Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
    his father



    Angharad verch Maredudd
    his mother



    Maredudd ap Owain
    her father



    Angharad verch Llewelyn
    his mother



    Llywelyn ap Merfyn
    her father



    Merfyn ap Rhodri Mawr, Brenin Powys
    his father



    Rhodri Mawr ap Merfyn
    his father



    Merfyn Frych ap Gwriad
    his father



    Gwriad ap Elidir
    his father



    Elidir ap Sandde
    his father



    Sandde ap Alcwn
    his father



    Alcwn ap Tegid
    his father



    Tegid ap Gwair
    his father



    Morgause (Anna)
    his mother



    Uther ap Custennyn, King of Britons
    her father





    Place of Burial:

    Stonehenge, Wiltshire, England



    Birth:

    circa 430
    Tintagel Castle, Cornwall, England



    Death:

    circa 496 (66)
    Cornwall, England



    Immediate Family:


    Son of Constantine ap Selyfan, King of Britain and Ivoire ferch Llancelod
    Husband of Igerna ferch Amlawdd, of Dumnonia
    Father of Gania de Cornouaille; Elen d'Anaumide; Arthwyr ap Uthyr, High King of Britain; Morgause (Anna); Madog ap Uthyr; Wife of Percival Verch Uther; Wife of Urien verch Uther; Cador Duke of Cornwall and Anna verch Uthyr

    Brother of Constans ap Custennin; Aurelianus Ambrosius; Alda verch Constantine and Morgause del Acqs

    Added by:

    Holly Peterson on January 24, 2008

    Managed by:

    Norris Dean Siebert and 30 others

    Curated by:

    Catherine (Erin) Spiceland


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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:02 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uther_Pendragon

    His son, King Arthur, succeeded his father in 516 at age 15, repulsed the invading Saxons and died 21 May 542, buried at Glastonbury with wife Guinever, per James S. Wurts, "Magna Charta" (Phila.: Brookfield, 1945), p. 163.

    alternate spelling: Uthyr Pendragon

    -------------------- King of the Britons Uthyr Pendragon1,2

    b. circa 410, d. circa 495

    Father King of the Britons Constantine ap Solomon of Britain1 b. circa 375, d. 411

    Mother Ivoire ferch Llancelod (?)1 b. circa 375

    King of the Britons Uthyr Pendragon was the brother of Aurelius Ambrosius, King of the Britons.3 King of the Britons at Britain. He was born circa 410.1 He was the son of King of the Britons Constantine ap Solomon of Britain and Ivoire ferch Llancelod (?).1 King of the Britons Uthyr Pendragon was called the "King of England," (regis Anglie), by the Ulster Annals in 467.4 Annals of Ulster 467: "Death of Uter Pendragon, king of England, to whom succeeded his son, King Arthur, who instituted the Round Table. / Bas Oiter Pendragen regis Anglie cui sucsessit filius suus, .i. Cingh Arrtur, .i. do orrdaig an bord cruinn."5 He married Ygerna verch Amlawdd o Dumnonia, daughter of Amlawdd Wledig ap Cynwal of Britain, circa 480 at Tintagel; Her 2nd. 3rd cousins, 2x removed.1,6 King of the Britons Uthyr Pendragon died circa 495. Already ill, he drank from a well poisoned by embittered Saxons, and he, along with hundred others after him, died.1,7 . As soon as the King's death was divulged, the bishops and clergy of the kingdom assembled, and carried his body to the convent of Ambrius, where they buried it with regal solemnity, close by Aurelius Ambrosius, within the Giant's Dance.7

    Family

    Ygerna verch Amlawdd o Dumnonia b. circa 452

    Children

    Anna Mawgawse Pendragon+ 2

    King of the Britons Arthwyr Pendragon b. c 480, d. 5371,8

    Madog ab Uthyr Pendragon b. c 4851

    Citations

    [S266] EBK, online http://freespace.virgin.net/david.ford2/…

    [S278] DfAdam, online unknown url, The Line of Constantine, King of Britain, 78.

    [S624] Geoffrey of Monmouth, Geoffrey of Monmouth, Book VIII, Chapt. 15.

    [S897] [unknown], AU, U467.2.

    [S897] [unknown], AU, U467.3.

    [S624] Geoffrey of Monmouth, Geoffrey of Monmouth, Book VIII, Chapt. 20.

    [S624] Geoffrey of Monmouth, Geoffrey of Monmouth, Book VIII, Chapt. 24.

    [S624] Geoffrey of Monmouth, Geoffrey of Monmouth, Book IX, Chapt. 1. -------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uther_Pendragon
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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:07 pm

    World news

    Found in India: the last king of France

    · Indian lawyer acclaimed as head of royal house
    · Prince Philip's cousin sets out 'incredible' theory


    Angelique Chrisafis in Paris
    The Guardian, Saturday 3 March 2007

    Balthazar Napoleon de Bourbon, a jovial Indian lawyer and part-time farmer,
    has always been fascinated by France.

    Framed pictures of the Eiffel Tower and the palace of Versailles implausibly decorate his house
    in a dusty, bustling suburb of the central Indian city of Bhopal.

    He gave his children French names even though he has never set foot in France.

    But he may soon make his first trip to Paris,
    after he was visited by a relative of Prince Philip,
    who told him that he is the first in line to the lost French throne.

    This Indian father-of-three is being feted as the long-lost descendent of the Bourbon kings
    who ruled France from the 16th century to the French revolution.

    A distant cousin of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette,
    he is alleged to be not only related to the current Bourbon king of Spain
    and the Bourbon descendants still in France,
    but to have more claim than any of them to the French crown.

    The story of a potential Asian dauphin to one of the most important royal houses of Europe
    appears to be a poke in the eye for colonial history,
    and has sparked a rush of interest among royals in Europe.

    Prince Michael of Greece, the cousin of Prince Philip,
    this week published a historical novel called Le Rajah de Bourbon,
    which traces the swashbuckling story of Mr Bourbon's first royal ancestor in India.

    Prince Michael believes Jean de Bourbon was a nephew of the first Bourbon French king, Henry IV.

    In the mid-16th century Jean embarked on an action-packed adventure across the world
    which saw him survive assassination attempts and kidnap by pirates to be sold
    at an Egyptian slave market and serve in the Ethiopian army.

    In 1560, he turned up at the court of the Mogul emperor Akbar.

    It was the beginning of a long line of Bourbons in India,
    who centuries later would serve as the administrators of Bhopal
    and become the second most important family in the region.

    Michael of Greece, who lives in Paris and is of Bourbon descent,
    believes his detective work on his newfound Indian "cousins" is more than just the latest whimsy
    in a history of attempts to uncover relatives of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette.

    "If I am right - and I don't have absolute proof, but I completely believe in my theory
    - then Balthazar Bourbon would be the eldest in the line," he told the Guardian.

    "This is the cherry on the cake.

    Mr Bourbon is head of a decent, dignified, middle-class Indian family.

    They look so Indian and yet bear this name.

    When you look at them, it seems incredible.

    The more unbelievable it is, the more I believe in it."

    He said several of his royal relatives in Spain and France were "quite excited and thrilled
    to have found a new branch".

    He was in favour of a DNA test, perhaps from a surviving lock of Bourbon hair, to establish the facts.

    From his home in the Bhopal suburbs, Mr Bourbon, 48, said he would be glad to take a DNA test,
    but remained stoical about the "hypothetical question" of whether he was heir to the throne.

    Conscious of the bloody outcome for royals in France, he felt royal status could bring "trouble", not to mention questions from skeptical historians.

    Still, he has long had a brass plaque above his front door reading "House of Bourbon"
    with the fleur-de-lis crest of the French monarchy.

    His wife runs the neighbouring school for local children, called the Bourbon school.

    The family is Catholic and keeps Bourbon relics, including a sword, in their home.

    He said he felt "a sense of pride" when contemplating the picture of Versailles on his wall.

    But he is aware that his family's fortunes waned in Bhopal long ago.

    He describes the Indian branch of the family as Bourbons on the rocks.

    "From the day I was born, I was made to understand that I belonged to the family of the Bourbons," he said.

    "I may be from a royal family but I live my life as a commoner.

    I didn't have time to learn French as a teenager because my father's death meant

    I had to work to look after my mother and sisters. Life has been very tough for me."

    When his sister went to France on holiday she visited a castle once owned by Bourbon kings.

    It was closed to the public but she showed her Indian passport with the Bourbon name and was allowed in.

    "I don't know if any of this will change my life," Mr Bourbon said.

    "The fact is, we've been having visitors from England, France and across Europe for years,
    curious about our family name.

    "All these travellers, all this publicity, but nothing has happened yet.
    So how can I believe that something will change now?"

    Backstory

    War, assassinations, child kings, opulence and revolution marked the two centuries
    during which the Bourbons ruled France.

    They were known as much for their colourful personal lives as their politics.

    The first king, Henri IV, came to power in 1589 and was reputed to have more than 60 mistresses
    and 11 illegitimate children.

    Later Louis XIV, the Sun King, became the most powerful ruler in French history
    and one of the longest reigning kings in Europe.

    In 1793, Louis XVI was guillotined by revolutionaries,

    followed months later by his wife Marie Antoinette.

    Different branches of the Bourbons were restored to the throne from 1814 until the revolution of 1848.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/03/india.france
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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:46 pm

    THE RUTHVENS
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    http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-William-Ruthven-1st-Lord-of-Ruthven/5464458449390117010?through=6000000000701212690

    Sir William Ruthven, 1st Lord of Ruthven is your 14th great grandfather.

    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother



    james edward handy
    her father



    JAMES handy
    his father



    Marian Ruthven
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven, Master of Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven, 1st Lord of Ruthven
    his father

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    William Ruthven, 1st Lord Ruthven
    Birth: circa 1458
    Ruthven Castle, Perthshire, Scotland
    Death: July 12, 1528 (70)
    Scotland
    Immediate Family:

    Son of Patrick Ruthven of that Ilk and Mrs. Patrick Ruthven
    Husband of Christian Ruthven and Lady Mabella [Isabella] Lindsay (Livingston)
    Father of Elizabeth Ruthven; William Ruthven, of Ballindean;
    Patrick Ruthven;
    William Ruthven, Master of Ruthven;
    John Ruthven and 2 others
    Brother of (No Name)
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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:12 pm

    Phriapites Parni is your 72nd great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Phriapites-Parni/6000000002447257767?through=6000000002447257760

    Phriapites Parni is your 72nd great grandfather.

    PART 1 OF 2
    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You

    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother

    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father

    JAMES HANDY
    his father

    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother

    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father

    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father

    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father

    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father

    John Ruthven
    his father

    George Ruthven
    his father

    William Ruthven
    his father

    William Ruthven
    his father

    Sir William Ruthven
    his father

    Sir William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father

    Catherine Ruthven
    his mother

    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother

    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father

    Joan Beaufort, Queen consort of Scots
    his mother

    John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset
    her father

    John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
    his father

    Philippa of Hainault, Queen consort of England
    his mother

    Guillaume III de Hainaut, graaf van Holland
    her father

    Philippa de Luxembourg
    his mother

    Hendrik IV, hertog van Limburg
    her father

    Ermesinde de Namur, comtesse de Luxembourg
    his mother

    Agnes of Guelders
    her mother

    Hendrik van Gelre, graaf van Gelre en Zutphen
    her father

    Ermengarde van Zutphen
    his mother

    Otto II, graaf van Zütphen
    her father

    Adelheid van Zütphen
    his mother

    Ludolph von Lothringen, Herr zu Waldenburg un Zütphen
    her father

    Mathilde von Sachsen, Princess of the Holy Roman Empire
    his mother

    Theophana Skerlaina, Princess of the Byzantine Empire
    her mother
    is your 31st great grandmother.
    Otto II Holy Roman Emperor is your 31st great grandfather.

    Otto I "der Große" von Sachsen, Römischer Kaiser is your 32nd great grandfather.

    Heinrich I 'der Vogler' von Sachsen is your 33rd great grandfather.

    Otto I, Duke of Saxony is your 34th great grandfather.

    Liudolf I "the Great", Herzog von Sachsen is your 35th great grandfather.

    Bruno III Von Wettin, Duke of Saxony is your 36th great grandfather.

    Bruno II Von Wettin, Count of Saxony is your 37th great grandfather.
    Ida of Autun is your 37th great grandmother.
    Thierry I, comte d'Autun is your 38th great grandfather.
    Aude of Austrasia is your 38th great grandmother.

    Charles "Martel", Prince of the Franks is your 39th great grandfather.

    Pepin II d'Héristal, Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia is your 40th great grandfather.

    Ansigisel de Metz, Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia is your 41st great grandfather.

    Saint Arnoul, Bishop of Metz is your 42nd great grandfather.

    Bodegiesel II, Duke of Aquitaine is your 43rd great grandfather.

    Saint Gondolfus, Bishop of Tongres is your 44th great grandfather.

    Mundéric, Lord of Vitry-en-Perthois is your 45th great grandfather.

    Clodéric "the Parricide", King of the Franks at Cologne is your 46th great grandfather.

    Siegbert I, King of the Franks at Cologne is your 47th great grandfather.
    Siegbert (Seigebert,Sigibert,Si... der Lahme,the Lame von Köln (Merovingian Dynasty), 460-509

    Chlodébaud, King of the Franks at Cologne is your 48th great grandfather.


    Chlodégar, King of the Franks at Cologne is your 49th great grandfather.

    Théodémir of the Franks is your 50th great grandfather.
    Blesinde von Köln is your 50th great grandmother.

    Chlodio IV, King of the Franks at Cologne is your 51st great grandfather.

    Dagobert II, King of the Salian Franks is your 52nd great grandfather.

    Génébaud II, Duke of the Salian Franks is your 53rd great grandfather.

    Dagobert I 'Magnus', Duke of the Salian Franks is your 54th great grandfather.

    Gauthier, King of the Sicambrian Franks is your 55th great grandfather.

    Chlodius III, King of the Sicambrian Franks is your 56th great grandfather.

    Bartherus, King of the Franks is your 57th great grandfather.

    Childéric, King of the Franks is your 58th great grandfather.

    Sunno, King of the Franks is your 59th great grandfather.

    Farabert, King of the Franks is your 60th great grandfather.

    Clodomir IV, King of the Franks is your 61st great grandfather.

    Marcomir IV, King of the Franks is your 62nd great grandfather.

    Odomir IV, King of the Sicambrian Franks is your 63rd great grandfather.

    Richemer I, King of the Sicambrian Franks is your 64th great grandfather.

    Ratherius, King of the Franks is your 65th great grandfather.

    Antenor IV (III), King of the Franks is your 66th great grandfather.

    Chlodomir III, King of the West Franks is your 67th great grandfather.

    Marcomir III, King of the West Franks is your 68th great grandfather.

    Chlodio II, King of the West Franks is your 69th great grandfather.

    Francio, King of the West Franks is your 70th great grandfather.

    Antharius, King of the Sicambrii is your 71st great grandfather.

    Cassander, King of the Sicambrii is your 72nd great grandfather.

    Merodocus, King of the Sicambrii is your 73rd great grandfather.

    Clodomir II, King of the Sicambrii is your 74th great grandfather.

    Antenor II (III), King of the Sicambrii is your 75th great grandfather.

    Chlodius I, King of the Sicambrii is your 76th great grandfather.

    Marocmir II, King of the Sicambrii is your 77th great grandfather.

    Nicanor, King of the Sicambrii is your 78th great grandfather.

    Clodomir I, King of the Sicambrii is your 79th great grandfather.

    Bassanus Magnus, King of the Sicambrii is your 80th great grandfather.

    Diocles, King of the Sicambrii is your 81st great grandfather.

    Helenus V, King of the Sicambrii is your 82nd great grandfather.

    Priamos V, King of the Sicambrii is your 83rd great grandfather.

    Antenor II, King of the Sicambrii is your 84th great grandfather.

    Marcomir I / II, King of the Cimmerians is your 85th great grandfather.

    Antenor IV / II, King of the Cimmerians is your 86th great grandfather.

    Helenus IV, King of the Cimmerians is your 87th great grandfather.

    Priamos IV, King of the Cimmerians is your 88th great grandfather.

    Marcomir I, King of the Cimmerians is your 89th great grandfather.

    Dilulius II, King of the Cimmerians is your 90th great grandfather.

    Plaserius III, King of the Cimmerians is your 91st great grandfather.

    Helenus III / II, King of the Cimmerians is your 92nd great grandfather.

    Dilulius I, King of the Cimmerians is your 93rd great grandfather.

    Almadius I, King of the Cimmerians is your 94th great grandfather.

    Gentilanor V, King of the Cimmerians is your 95th great grandfather.

    Priamos III, King of Troy is your 96th great grandfather.

    Alexandros, King of Troy is your 97th great grandfather.

    Basabelian II, King of Troy is your 98th great grandfather.

    Plesron II, King of Troy is your 99th great grandfather.

    Helenus II, King of Troy is your 100th great grandfather.

    Priamos II, King of Troy is your 101st great grandfather.

    Antenor I, King of Troy is your 102nd great grandfather.

    Plaserius II, King of Troy is your 103rd great grandfather.

    Zaberian, King of Troy is your 104th great grandfather.

    Eliacor I, King of Troy is your 105th great grandfather.


    Elesron I, King of Troy is your 106th great grandfather.

    Plaserius I, King of Troy is your 107th great grandfather.

    Basabelian I, King of Troy is your 108th great grandfather.

    Zelius, King of Troy is your 109th great grandfather.

    Esdron, King of Troy is your 110th great grandfather.

    Francus, King of Troy is your 111th great grandfather.

    Cestrinus, King of Troy is your 112th great grandfather.

    Helenos I, King of Epirus is your 113th great grandfather.
    Andromache is your 113th great grandmother.
    Eetion, King of Thebes is your 114th great grandfather.
    Gyotha Lake - The First Mother of Dream Lake is your 114th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Gyotha-Lake/6000000002187709957?through=6000000011476169455

    Priam, King of Troy is your 114th great grandfather.
    Hécube de Phrygie, I is your 114th great grandmother.
    Dymus, King of Phrygia is your 115th great grandfather.
    Aegimius of Phrygia is your 116th great grandfather.
    Dorus EK Thessaly is your 117th great grandfather.
    Iolcus is your 117th great grandmother.
    Cretheus, Founder of Iolcus is your 118th great grandfather.
    Aeolus - Αἴολος King of the Aeolians is your 119th great grandfather.

    Héllen - Έλλην King of Thessaly is your 120th great grandfather.
    Orseïs Ninfa is your 120th great grandmother.
    Daughter of Zeus - Ζεύς / Δίας - Iuppiter / Jupiter and Dino / Deino - Δεινώ Graeae (Γραίες)
    Wife of Héllen - Έλλην King of Thessaly
    http://www.geni.com/people/Orse%C3%AFs-Ninfa/6000000003828190587?through=6000000000497779843

    Deucalion - Δευκαλίων Survivor of the Flood is your 121st great grandfather.
    Pyrrha - Πύρρα Survivor of the Flood is your 121st great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Pyrrha-%CE%A0%CF%8D%CF%81%CF%81%CE%B1-Survivor-of-the-Flood/6000000000497957180?through=6000000006277429002

    Prometheus - Προμηθεύς - Forethought (Titan of Craft and Forethought)
    is your 122nd great grandfather.
    for more details on this connection, see here:
    http://www.geni.com/people/Prometheus-%CE%A0%CF%81%CE%BF%CE%BC%CE%B7%CE%B8%CE%B5%CF%8D%CF%82-Forethought-Titan-of-Craft-and-Forethought/6000000000437984094?through=6000000006277429002

    Laomedon, King of Troy is your 115th great grandfather.
    Strymo Placia Queen of Troy is your 115th great grandmother.

    Scamander River God of the Troad King of Boeotia
    is your 116th great grandfather.
    Idaea Queen of Troy is your 116th great grandmother.
    Coribus Trojan King is your 117th great grandfather.

    llus, King of Troy is your 116th great grandfather.
    Eurydice, Queen of Troy is your 116th great grandmother.

    Adrasius King of Argus is your 117th great grandfather.
    Arnpitea(Amphithea) of Argos is your 117th great grandmother
    Pronax is your 118th great grandfather.

    Talaus King of Argos is your 118th great grandfather
    Lysimacho of Argus is your 118th great grandmother.

    Biask of the Argives is your 119th great grandfather.
    Pero of Pytos is your 119th great grandmother.

    (add url - http://www.geni.com/people/llus/6000000001292589874 )

    Tros, King of Troy is your 117th great grandfather.
    Erichthonius, King of Dardania is your 118th great grandfather.
    Dardanus King of Arcadia is your 119th great grandfather.
    Basia, Queen of Dardania is your 119th great grandmother.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Dardanus-King-of-Arcadia/6000000006375582740?through=6000000007236373288
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    Tros, King of Troy is your 82nd great grandfather.
    Erichthonius, King of Dardania is your 83rd great grandfather.
    Dardanus King of Arcadia is your 84th great grandfather.
    Basia, Queen of Dardania is your 84th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Dardanus-King-of-Arcadia/6000000006375582740?through=6000000007236373288

    King Teucer of Teucria is your 85th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Dardanus-King-of-Arcadia/6000000006375582740?through=6000000007236373288

    Teucer B: 1390 BC D: is your 85th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/King-Teucer-of-Teucria/6000000005049520859?through=6000000000424692724

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    Flavius Richomeres, Consul of Rome (384) is your 51st great grandfather.
    Ascyla is your 51st great grandmother.
    Ascyllius des Francs is your 52nd great grandfather.
    NN Ascyllius des Francs is your 52nd great grandmother
    NN. des Francs is your 53rd great grandfather. .

    Teutomer, a Frankish general is your 52nd great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Flavius-Richomeres-Consul-of-Rome-384/6000000000316300005?through=6000000003828105311


    Bernarius is your 39th great grandfather.
    ww.geni.com/people/Bruno-II-Von-Wettin/6000000016129948766?through=6000000016130176241

    Chrodelinde de Autun is your 39th great grandmother.
    *************************************************


    Sophia Phokaina
    her mother
    Sophia Phokaina is your 32nd great grandmother.
    Konstantinos Skleros is your 32nd great grandfather.

    Photeinos (Munir) Skleros is your 33rd great grandfather.

    Niketas Skleros is your 34th great grandfather.
    Gregoria is your 34th great grandmother.

    Basil I the Macedonian, Emperor of the Byzantine Empire is your 35th great grandfather.
    Eudokia Ingerina, Byzantine Empress is your 35th great grandmother.
    Inger of the Varangian Guard is your 36th great grandfather.
    Melissena Martinakia is your 36th great grandmother.
    Theophylactos Rangabe, Byzantine co-Emperor is your 37th great grandfather.
    Michael I Rangabe, Byzantine Emperor is your 38th great grandfather.
    Admiral Theophylaktos Rangabes is your 39th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Admiral-Theophylaktos-Rangabes/6000000008959166268?through=6000000003645870800


    N.N. is your 36th great grandfather.
    Pankalo is your 36th great grandmother.

    Hmayeak is your 37th great grandfather.
    N.N. is your 37th great grandmother.
    Leon is your 38th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Hmayeak/6000000015565628122?through=6000000015565610154

    Leon Skleros is your 35th great grandfather.
    Anna Skleros is your 35th great grandmother.

    Prokopios is your 36th great grandfather.


    Theophylactos Rangabe, Byzantine co-Emperor is your 37th great grandfather.
    Irene Unknown is your 37th great grandmother.

    Michael I Rangabe, Byzantine Emperor is your 38th great grandfather.
    Procopia, Byzantine Empress consort is your 38th great grandmother.
    Nikephoros I Logothetes, Byzantine Emperor is your 39th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Nikephoros-I-Logothetes/6000000003645870815?through=6000000003645870795

    Admiral Theophylaktos Rangabes is your 39th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Admiral-Theophylaktos-Rangabes/6000000008959166268?through=6000000003645870800
    **************************************************************************

    NN. Skleros is your 36th great grandfather.

    Leo Skleros is your 37th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Leo-Skleros/6000000003827320390?through=6000000003827320396


    Bardas 'the Elder' Phokas
    her father
    Bardas 'the Elder' Phokas is your 33rd great grandfather.
    NN. Maleina is your 33rd great grandmother.

    Maleinos is your 34th great grandfather.
    Anastaso Adralestina is your 34th great grandmother.
    Adralestos is your 35th great grandfather.
    Adralestos is your 36th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Adralestos/6000000009305061134?through=6000000009305061129

    Eustathios Maleinos is your 35th great grandfather.



    Nikephoros Maleinos is your 36th great grandfather.
    N (~815-?) Argyros is your 36th great grandmother.
    Eusthatios (~785-?) Argyros is your 37th great grandfather.
    N (~760-?) Argyros is your 38th great grandfather.
    N (~735-?) Argyros is your 39th great grandfather.
    Eusthatios (~710-740) Argyros is your 40th great grandfather.
    Marianos Argyros is your 41st great grandfather.
    680
    http://www.geni.com/people/Marianos-Argyros/6000000009305061121?through=6000000009305061117


    Basileios Maleinos is your 37th great grandfather.
    Eudokia is your 37th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Eudokia/6000000009305061097?through=6000000009305061092



    Nikéforos Phocas
    his father
    Nikéforos Phocas is your 34th great grandfather.
    Anna Dalassena is your 34th great grandmother.
    Nicephorus Dalessenos is your 35th great grandfather.
    Sofia Palyolega is your 35th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Sofia-Palyolega/6000000002188304134?through=6000000002188304126



    Bardas (?-866) Phokas
    his father
    Bardas (?-866) Phokas is your 35th great grandfather.



    Marianos Mamikonian
    his father
    Marianos Mamikonian is your 36th great grandfather.
    Theoktista Phlorina is your 36th great grandmother.



    Artavazd II of Georgia
    his father
    Artavazd II of Georgia is your 37th great grandfather.


    Myartes (Hmayeak III)
    his father
    Myartes (Hmayeak III) is your 38th great grandfather.



    Artavazd I Mamikonian
    his father
    Artavazd I Mamikonian is your 39th great grandfather.



    Hamazasp II Mamikonian
    his father
    Hamazasp II Mamikonian is your 40th great grandfather.
    Princesse of the Roushtoni is your 40th great grandmother.
    Théodore I, Prince of the rshtouni - Théodore rshtouni is your 41st great grandfather.
    (unk) Rschtuni is your 41st great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/unk-Rschtuni/6000000002187596891?through=6000000002187596883


    Husband of (unk) Rschtuni


    Dawith / David Mamikonian
    his father
    Dawith / David Mamikonian is your 41st great grandfather.


    Vahan II Mamikonian
    his father
    Vahan II Mamikonian is your 42nd great grandfather.


    Mousegh I Mamikonian, Marzpan of Armenia, Sarapet Armenia is your 43rd great grandfather
    his father



    Hmayeak II Mamikonian
    his father
    Hmayeak II Mamikonian is your 44th great grandfather.
    Mamikonian or Mamikoneans (Armenian: ??????????)
    was a noble family which dominated Armenian politics between the 4th and 8th centuries.
    They ruled the Armenian regions of Taron, Sasun, Bagrevand and others.


    Vard Mamikonian
    his father
    Vard Mamikonian is your 45th great grandfather.



    Saint Hmayeak I Mamikonian, Viceroy of Armenia
    his father

    Saint Hmayeak I Mamikonian, Viceroy of Armenia is your 46th great grandfather
    his wife: Dzoyk (Dzuik) Arcruni is your 46th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Dzoyk-Dzuik-Arcruni/6000000008630623545?through=6000000008630636063
    Vram Arcruni, Of Artsruni is your 47th great grandfather.
    Prince Vatche 1, Prince of Artsrouni is your 48th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Vatche-Artsrouni/6000000004533535600?through=6000000003645859156



    Sahakanush
    Sahakanush is your 47th great grandmother.
    his mother

    Hamazasp I Mamikonian of Taraun, Sparapet of Armenia is your 47th great grandfather.

    Artashir III Mamikonian is your 48th great grandfather.
    Manuel Mamikonian is your 49th great grandfather.
    Vardanoysch is your 49th great grandmother.
    Artashin Mamikonides is your 50th great grandfather.
    Artavazd II Mamikonian is your 51st great grandfather.
    Prince Mamikonids is your 52nd great grandfather.
    Prince Mamikonids, Prince is your 53rd great grandfather.
    Frau is your 53rd great grandmother



    Isaac the Great of Armenia
    Isaac the Great of Armenia is your 48th great grandfather.
    her father







    Saint Nerses I the Great
    his father
    Saint Nerses I the Great is your 49th great grandfather.
    Sandukht Mamikonian is your 49th great grandmother.
    Vardan Mamikonian is your 50th great grandfather.
    Artavazd II Mamikonian is your 51st great grandfather.
    Prince Mamikonids is your 52nd great grandfather.
    Prince Mamikonids, Prince is your 53rd great grandfather.
    Frau??? is your 53rd great grandmother.



    Bambish
    Bambish is your 50th great grandmother.
    his mother
    At'anagenes is your 50th great grandfather.
    St. Husik I, Primate of Armenia is your 51st great grandfather.
    St. Vrtanes, Primate of Armenia is your 52nd great grandfather.
    Saint Gregory the Illuminator is your 53rd great grandfather.
    Mariam is your 53rd great grandmother.
    David Armenia is your 54th great grandfather.
    estimated between 195 and 255
    (Armenia), Turkey



    Khosrov III, King of Armenia
    her father
    Khosrov III, King of Armenia is your 51st great grandfather.



    Tiridates III, King of Armenia is your 52nd great grandfather.
    his father

    Ashkhen of Alania, Princess of the Alans is your 52nd great grandmother.
    Ashkhadar KING OF ALANI, King of the Alans is your 53rd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Ashkhadar-KING-OF-ALANI/6000000006999030219?through=6000000002512619756


    Khosrov II, King of Armenia is your 53rd great grandfather.
    his father

    Olympias, Princess of Bosphorus is your 53rd great grandmother.
    Rheskuporis IV, King of Bosphorus is your 54th great grandfather.
    Tiberius Julius Sauromates, King of Bosphorus is your 55th great grandfather.
    Tiberius Julius Rhoimetalkes, King of Bosphorus is your 56th great grandfather.
    Tiberius Julius Cotys, King of Bosphorus is your 57th great grandfather.
    Tiberius Julius Sauromates, King of Bosphorus is your 58th great grandfather.
    Rhescuporis King of Bosphorus, I is your 59th great grandfather.
    Cotys King of Bosphorus, I is your 60th great grandfather.
    EUNICE is your 60th great grandmother.
    Aspurgus is your 61st great grandfather.
    Gepaepirus of Thrace is your 61st great grandmother.
    Cotys VIII, King of Thrace is your 62nd great grandfather
    Antonia Tryphaena is your 62nd great grandmother
    Rhoemetalces I is your 63rd great grandfather
    Pythodoris I is your 63rd great grandmother
    Cotys VI. is your 64th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Cotys-VI/6000000010543208324?through=6000000010543242297





    (SEE PART 2 OF 2) in next post


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    Post  THEeXchanger Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:33 pm

    PART 2 OF 2

    Tiridates II The Great, King of Armenia
    --- Tiridates II The Great, King of Armenia is your 54th great grandfather.
    his father

    Soshandukht of Kushans aka Soshandukht of Vasudeva II of Kushans (arsacid) is your 54th great grandmother.

    Vasudeva, King of Kushana is your 55th great grandfather.
    Kanishka, King of Kushana is your 56th great grandfather.
    Vasudeva, King of Kushana is your 57th great grandfather.
    Huvihska, King of Kushan is your 58th great grandfather.
    Kanishka, King of Kushana is your 59th great grandfather.
    Vema, King of Kushana is your 60th great grandfather.
    Kujula, King of Kushans is your 61st great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Kujula/6000000003645912173?through=6000000003645912168


    Khusraw I King of Armenia is your 55th great grandfather.
    his father



    Vologaeses V Parthia, King of Parthia is your 56th great grandfather.
    his father
    Daughter of Pharasmenes III d'Ibérie is your 56th great grandmother.

    Daughter of Pharasmenes III, King of Iberia and Zenobia of Iberia
    http://www.geni.com/people/Daughter-of-Pharasmenes-III-d-Ib%C3%A9rie/6000000002187597295?through=6000000002837351098


    Vologaeses I of Armenia, King of Armenia is your 57th great grandfather.
    his father
    Birth: circa 55
    95 AD
    Death: circa 136 (81)
    Arménie


    Sanatroukes, King of Armenia is your 58th great grandfather.
    his father



    Meherdates, King of Armenia is your 59th great grandfather.
    his father
    Awde is your 59th great grandmother.
    Daughter of Mannos VI, King of Osrhoene and Daughter of Izates II d'Osrhoène

    http://www.geni.com/people/Awde/6000000002187597416?through=6000000002187597381

    Birth: circa 45
    Osroene, Turkey
    Death: Armenia





    Vologaeses I, King of Parthia is your 60th great grandfather.
    his father
    Iberia Wife of Vologases I is your 60th great grandmother.



    Vonones II, King of Parthia is your 61st great grandfather.
    his father
    Thracian Concubine Spouse of Vonones II, Unknown Wife is your 61st great grandmother.



    Darius II of Media Atropatene is your 62nd great grandmother
    his father

    Daughter of Phraates IV, King of Parthia is your 62nd great grandmother.
    Arsacia de atropatene (de parthia)
    Birth: -31
    30 BCE, (Parthia), Iran
    Death: (Parthia), Iran
    Immediate Family:
    Daughter of Phraates IV, King of Parthia and Thea Musa, Queen of Parthia
    http://www.geni.com/people/Daughter-of-Phraates-IV-King-of-Parthia/6000000001353854695?through=6000000003041009007


    Artavasdes I, King of Media Atropatene is your 63rd great grandfather
    his father
    Birth: -60
    abt 60 BC Media Atropatene, Parthia, or about 59 BCE
    Death: circa -20 (40)
    abt 20 BC
    http://www.geni.com/people/Artavasdes-I/6000000006970940899?through=6000000009874130110
    Athenais is your 63rd great grandmother.

    Birth: circa -70
    Commangene
    Death: -20 (50)
    Immediate Family:

    Daughter of Antiochos I Théos, King of Commagene and Isias Philostorgos


    Ariobarzanes I, King of Media Atropatene
    his father
    Birth: -85
    Parthia,Persia
    Death: circa -4 (81)
    http://www.geni.com/people/Ariobarzanes-I/6000000009874130110?through=6000000005957446290


    Mithridates III, King of Parthia
    his father
    Mithridates III, King of Parthia is your 65th great grandfather.
    wife is: N Of Armenia
    Daughter of Tigranes II and Cleopatra Of Pontus
    http://www.geni.com/people/Mithridates-III/6000000005957446290?through=6000000008021010081



    Phraates III, King of Parthia
    his father
    Phraates III, King of Parthia is your 66th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Phraates-III/6000000006971429075?through=6000000003218479907
    Piritana Arshakuni is your 66th great grandmother.
    Daughter of Sanatruces, King of Parthia
    http://www.geni.com/people/Piritana-Arshakuni/6000000008021010081?through=6000000006971429075


    Sanatruces, King of Parthia
    his father

    Sanatruces, King of Parthia is your 67th great grandfather.





    Mithridates I (~195-138 BC) Great King of Parthia
    his father

    Mithridates I (~195-138 BC) Great King of Parthia is your 68th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Mithridates-I-195-138-BC-Great-King-of-Parthia/6000000002187718586?through=6000000006971125534

    Rikinu Riinnu is your 68th great grandmother.



    Phriapatius of Parthia, Ruler (191-176 BC)
    his father

    Phriapatius of Parthia, Ruler (191-176 BC) is your 69th great grandfather.





    Artabanus I is your 70th great grandfather
    his father
    circa -255
    Parthia,Persia

    putri raja turkistan is your 70th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/putri-raja-turkistan/6000000005925048114?through=6000000006101366477


    Arsaces Parni
    his father
    circa -285
    Scythia,Ukraine


    Phriapites Parni
    his father
    http://www.geni.com/people/Phriapites-Parni/6000000002447257767?through=6000000002447257760

    Phriapites Parni
    Birth: -345
    Immediate Family:

    Father of Arsaces Parni
    Added by: Geoffrey Trowbridge on January 13, 2009
    Managed by: Geoffrey David Trowbridge

    http://www.geni.com/people/Phriapites-Parni/6000000002447257767?through=6000000002447257760



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    Post  THEeXchanger Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:59 pm

    Shǎo Diǎn 少典 is your 119th great grandfather.




    You
    Susan Lynne Schwenger



    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Janet Halyburton, of Seton
    his mother



    Janet Dunbar, of March
    her mother



    George Dunbar, 9th Earl of Dunbar and March
    her father



    Sir Alexander de Dunbar of Wester Spott
    his father



    Lady Marjory Brigit de Comyn, Countess of Dunbar
    his mother



    Sir Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan
    her father



    William Comyn, 1st Earl of Buchan
    his father



    Hextilda Comyn
    his mother



    Uchtred FitzWaltheof, Lord of Tynedale
    her father



    Judith de Lens, Countess of Huntingdon
    his mother



    Lambert II de Boulogne, comte de Lens
    her father



    Mahaut de Louvaine
    his mother



    Lambert I, graaf van Leuven en Brussel
    her father



    Régnier III, comte de Hainaut
    his father



    Regnier II, Count of Hainault
    his father



    Régnier I, comte de Hainaut
    his father



    Giselbert von der Darnau, Comte d'Aquitaine et Brabant
    his father



    Bertswinda de Hesbaye
    his mother



    Landrade of Austrasia
    her mother



    Charles "Martel", Prince of the Franks
    her father



    Pepin II d'Héristal, Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia
    his father



    Saint Beggue of Austrasia
    his mother



    Pepin of Landen
    her father



    Gertrudis of the Bavarians
    his mother



    Waldrada of the Lombards
    her mother



    Austrigusa of the Gepidae
    her mother



    Elemund, King of the Gepids
    her father



    Escam of the Huns, Queen of the Gepidae
    his mother



    Elak, 60th King of the Huns
    her father



    Attila the Hun "Scourge of God", 59th King of the Huns
    his father



    Mundzuk - Bendegúz, King of the Huns
    his father



    Kuridak de Hunnie, Prince of the Huns
    his father



    Uldin King of the Huns
    his father



    Donaton, King of the Huns
    his father



    Avitochola of the Huns
    his father



    Kama Tarkhan de Hunnie, King of the Huns
    his father



    Szemen 47th King of the Huns
    his father



    Ethei of the Huns
    his father



    Oposch Prince of the Huns
    his father



    Kadcha Prince of the Huns
    his father



    Barin of the Huns
    his father



    Huyen III
    his father



    Huyen II
    his father



    Huyen I
    his father



    Panghu 25th King of the Huns
    his father



    Eltekin 24th King of the Huns
    his father



    Yiu 22nd King of the Huns
    his father



    Ghuduarshi Davganoti 20th King of the Huns
    his father



    呼韓邪單于 Huhanye Chanyu of the Huns
    his father



    虛閭權渠單于 Hyuilui-Juankui Chanyu of the Huns
    his father



    狐鹿姑單于 Hulugu Chanyu of the Huns
    his father



    且鞮侯 Chedi Chanyu of the Huns
    his father



    伊稚邪單于 Ichise Chanyu of the Huns
    his father



    老上單于 Laoshang Chanyu of the Huns
    his father



    冒頓單于 Modu Chanyu of the Huns
    his father



    頭曼單于 Touman Chanyu of the Huns
    his father



    Tengriqut, Tribal Chief of the Huns
    his father



    Kia Huns, Kia, Kiahan, Xia,Čibik
    his father



    Othmar of the Huns
    his father



    Kadar of the Huns
    his father



    Biler of the Huns
    his father



    Kear of the Huns
    his father



    Kave of the Huns
    his father



    Kaled of the Huns
    his father



    Dama of the Huns, Prince of the Huns
    his father



    Ly-sze Chou
    his mother



    周幽王 宮湦
    her father



    周宣王 靜
    his father



    周厲王 㝬
    his father



    周夷王 燮
    his father



    周懿王 囏
    his father



    周共王 繄扈
    his father



    周穆王 滿
    his father



    周昭王 瑕
    his father



    周康王 釗
    his father



    周成王 誦 is your 90th great grandfather
    his father
    Princess Shang of China is your 90th great grandmother.
    Poss. is your 91st great grandfather.
    帝辛 (紂) is your 92nd great grandfather.
    帝乙 Emperor Yi of Shang is your 93rd great grandfather.
    帝太丁 is your 94th great grandfather.
    帝武乙 is your 95th great grandfather.
    帝庚丁 is your 96th great grandfather.
    帝祖甲 is your 97th great grandfather.
    高宗 武丁 is your 98th great grandfather.
    帝小乙 is your 99th great grandfather.
    帝祖丁 is your 100th great grandfather.
    帝祖辛 is your 101st great grandfather.
    帝祖乙 is your 102nd great grandfather.
    帝仲丁 is your 103rd great grandparent.
    中宗 太戊 is your 104th great grandfather.
    帝太庚 is your 105th great grandfather.
    太宗 太甲 is your 106th great grandfather.
    太丁 is your 107th great grandfather.
    商湯 Tang of Shang is your 108th great grandfather.
    主癸 is your 109th great grandfather.
    主壬 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第16世) is your 110th great grandfather.
    主壬 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第15世) is your 111th great grandfather.
    报丙 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第14世) is your 112th great grandfather.
    报乙 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第13世) is your 113th great grandfather.
    报甲 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第12世) is your 114th great grandfather.
    振土 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第11世) is your 115th great grandfather.
    冥 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第10世) is your 116th great grandfather.
    曹圉 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第9世) is your 117th great grandfather.
    昌若 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第8世) is your 118th great grandfather.
    相土 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第7世) is your 119th great grandfather.
    昭明 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第6世) is your 120th great grandfather.
    契 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第5世) is your 121st great grandfather.
    帝喾 (五帝之三) (林氏前姓黄帝后代第4世) is your 122nd great grandfather.
    蛴极 (林氏前姓黄帝后代第3世) is your 123rd great grandfather.
    Xuán Xiāo, 玄嚣/Shǎo Hào 少昊, 2,(林氏前姓黄帝后代第2世)
    is your 117th great grandfather.
    Huáng Dì, 黄帝, Jī Xuān Yuán 姬軒轅, 1
    is your 118th great grandfather.
    Shǎo Diǎn 少典 is your 119th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Sh%C7%8Eo-Di%C7%8En-%E5%B0%91%E5%85%B8/6000000002480278249?through=6000000001381274001


    周武王 King Wu of Zhou 發 Fa is your 91st great grandfather
    his father



    周文王 King Wen of Zhou 昌 Chang is your 92nd great grandfather
    his father



    周王季 季歷 is your 93rd great grandfather
    his father



    周太王 亶父 is your 94th great grandfather
    his father



    公叔祖類 is your 95th great grandfather
    his father



    Zhū Zhōu 諸盩, 23 is your 96th great grandfather
    his father



    Zǔ Gàn 祖紺, 22 is your 97th great grandfather
    his father



    Tài Gōng 太公, 21 is your 98th great grandfather
    his father



    Yún Dōu 雲都, 20 is your 99th great grandfather
    his father



    Yà Yǔ 亞圉, 19 is your 100th great grandfather
    his father



    Hóu Móu 侯牟, 18 is your 101st great grandfather
    his father



    Gāo Yǔ 高圉, 17 is your 102nd great grandfather
    his father



    Pì Fāng 辟方, 16 is your 103rd great grandfather
    his father



    Gōng Fēi 公非, 15 is your 104th great grandfather
    his father



    Huǐ Yú 毀渝, 14 is your 105th great grandfather
    his father



    Chà Fú 差弗, 13 is your 106th great grandfather
    his father



    Huáng Pú 皇僕, 12 is your 107th great grandfather
    his father



    Qìng Jié 慶節, 11 is your 108th great grandfather
    his father



    Gong Liu 公劉, 10 is your 109th great grandfather
    his father



    JJū Táo 鞠陶, 9 is your 110th great grandfather
    his father



    Bù Kū 不窟, 8 is your 111 th great grandfather
    his father



    Shū Wàng 叔望, 7 is your 112th great grandfather
    his father



    Mù Xǐ 楘璽, 6 is your 113th great grandfather
    his father



    Hou Ji 后稷, Zhou Qi 周棄, Ji Qi 姬棄, 5
    is your 114th great grandfather
    his father



    Dì Kù, 帝喾, 4 is your 115th great grandfather
    his father
    Jiangyuan 姜嫄 is your 115th great grandmother.



    Qiáo Jí, 桥极, 3 is your 116th great grandfather
    his father



    Xuán Xiāo, 玄嚣/Shǎo Hào 少昊, 2,(林氏前姓黄帝后代第2世)
    is your 117th great grandfather.
    his father




    Huáng Dì, 黄帝, Jī Xuān Yuán 姬軒轅, 1 is your 118th great grandfather.
    his father
    Léi Zǔ, 嫘祖 is your 118th great grandmother.



    Shǎo Diǎn 少典
    his father
    Shǎo Diǎn 少典 is your 119th great grandfather.
    Fù Bǎo 附宝 (Wife) is your 119th great grandmother.

    Shao Dian 少典




    Birth:

    estimated between 2762BCE and 2702BCE 



    Immediate Family:


    Husband of Fù Bǎo 附宝 (Wife) and Rèn Sì 任姒 (Concubine)
    Father of Huáng Dì, 黄帝, Jī Xuān Yuán 姬軒轅, 1; Yán Dì, 炎帝, 1; Xūn, 勋, 1 and Shén Nóng 神农, Yán Dì 炎帝, Yú Quān 榆圈




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    Fù Bǎo 附宝 (Wife) is your 119th great grandmother.

    http://www.geni.com/people/F%C3%B9-B%C7%8Eo-%E9%99%84%E5%AE%9D-Wife/6000000002630916964#/tab/discussion

    Fu Bao 附宝 (Fù Bǎo 附宝)




    Birth:

    estimated between 2762BCE and 2702BCE 



    Immediate Family:


    Wife of Shǎo Diǎn 少典
    Mother of Huáng Dì, 黄帝, Jī Xuān Yuán 姬軒轅, 1; Yán Dì, 炎帝, 1
    and , 勋, 1



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    Post  THEeXchanger Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:11 pm


    Seleucus is your 70th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Seleucus/6000000006019021001?through=6000000006018596002


    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Janet Halyburton, of Seton
    his mother



    Janet Dunbar, of March
    her mother



    George Dunbar, 9th Earl of Dunbar and March
    her father



    Sir Alexander de Dunbar of Wester Spott
    his father



    Lady Marjory Brigit de Comyn, Countess of Dunbar
    his mother



    Sir Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan
    her father



    William Comyn, 1st Earl of Buchan
    his father



    Hextilda Comyn
    his mother



    Uchtred FitzWaltheof, Lord of Tynedale
    her father



    Judith de Lens, Countess of Huntingdon
    his mother



    Lambert II de Boulogne, comte de Lens
    her father



    Mahaut de Louvaine
    his mother



    Lambert I, graaf van Leuven en Brussel
    her father



    Régnier III, comte de Hainaut
    his father



    Regnier II, Count of Hainault
    his father



    Régnier I, comte de Hainaut
    his father



    Giselbert von der Darnau, Comte d'Aquitaine et Brabant
    his father



    Bertswinda de Hesbaye
    his mother



    Sigrimaine, comte d'Hesbaye
    her father



    Lambert II, Bishop of Metz
    his father



    Doda de Poitiers
    his mother



    Warinus, comte de Poitiers
    her father



    Bodilon de Trèves
    his father



    Warnacher de Trèves, Mayor of the Palace of Burgundy
    his father



    Ansbertus / Ausbert de Moselle
    his father



    Ferreolus de Rodez, Dux
    his father



    Tonantius Ferreolus, III
    his father



    Tonantius Ferreolus, II
    his father



    [Syagria]
    his mother



    Flavius Afranius Syagrius, Consul 382
    her father



    [Afranius]
    his father



    [Afranius]
    his father



    Afranius Hanniballianus
    his father



    Flavia
    his mother



    Flavia Major
    her mother



    Claudia Capitolina
    her mother



    Tiberius Claudius Bassus Capitolinus
    her father



    Tiberius Claudius Capitolinus
    his father



    Tiberius Claudius Capitolinus
    his father



    Tiberius Claudius Capitolinus
    his father



    Tiberius Claudius Balbillus
    his father



    Aka of Media Atropatene
    his mother



    Artavasdes I, King of Media Atropatene
    her father



    Ariobarzanes I, King of Media Atropatene
    his father



    N Of Armenia
    his mother



    Cleopatra Of Pontus
    her mother



    Mithradates VI Europator Dionysos, King of Pontus and Bosporus
    her father



    Mithridates V Euergetes, King of Pontus
    his father



    Pharnaces I, King of Pontus
    his father



    Mithradates III Euergetes, King of Pontus
    his father



    Laodice II of Syria, Queen of Pontus
    his mother



    Antiochus II Theos, King of the Seleucid Empire
    her father



    Antiochus I Soter, King of the Seleucid Empire
    his father



    Seleucus I Nicator, King of the Seleucid Empire
    his father



    Antiochus
    his father



    Seleucus
    his father

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    Seleucus MP




    Birth:

    estimated between 455BCE and 395BCE 



    Immediate Family:


    Father of Antiochus and Ptolemy, somatophylax




    Added by:

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    Jennifer Kathryn Vaughn and 11 others



    Curated by:

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    Post  THEeXchanger Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:17 pm

    Walking between The Worlds - Bilocation - The Final Synthesis ... So, who was The eXchanger from The Original Project Avalon & Camelot ?  Susan Lynne Schwenger - curated lineages - Page 12 Caerlaverock_Castle_from_the_air

    Caerlaverock Castle is a moated triangular castle, first built in the 13th century.
    It is located 11 kilometres (6.8 mi) south of Dumfries in south-west Scotland,
    on the edge of the Caerlaverock National Nature Reserve.

    Caerlaverock was a stronghold of the Maxwell family from the 13th century until the 17th century
    when the castle was abandoned. It was besieged by the English during the Wars of Scottish Independence,
    and underwent several partial demolitions and reconstructions
    over the 14th and 15th centuries.

    In the 17th century, the Maxwells were created Earls of Nithsdale,
    and built a new lodging within the walls,
    described as among "the most ambitious early classical domestic architecture in Scotland

    *******************************************************************************************

    http://www.geni.com/people/Undweyn-Saxon-Lord-in-the-North-of-England/6000000003827859712?through=6000000003827859719

    Undweyn Saxon Lord in the North of England is your 28th great grandfather.



    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Mary Gray
    his mother



    Marion Gray
    her mother



    James Ogilvy, 4th Lord Ogilvy of Airlie
    her father



    James Ogilvy, 3rd Lord Ogilvy of Airlie
    his father



    John Ogilvy, Sir
    his father



    Elizabeth Ogilvy
    his mother



    Catherine Maxwell of Glamis
    her mother



    Herbert Maxwell, 1st Lord Maxwell
    her father



    Sir Herbert Maxwell of Caerlaverock
    his father



    Robert Maxwell, Lord of Caelaverock and Mearns
    his father



    Sir John de Maxwell
    his father



    Sir John de Maxwell, Lord of Caerlaverock
    his father



    Sir John de Maxwell, Lord of Caerlaverock
    his father



    Sir Herbert de Maxwell
    his father



    Aymer de Macuswell, Chamberlain of Scotland
    his father



    Herbert de Macuswell, Sheriff of Teviotdale
    his father



    Maccus Undweysson
    his father



    Undweyn Saxon Lord in the North of England
    his father

    Undweyn The Saxon Lord in the North of England (Norseman)




    Birth:

    circa 1045
    Scotland



    Death:

    circa 1115 (70)
    Scotland



    Immediate Family:


    Husband of Unknown


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    Post  THEeXchanger Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:24 pm

    http://www.geni.com/people/Zombor-Horka-of-Transylvania/6000000004690293123?through=6000000002187699244

    Zombor (Horka) of Transylvania is your 30th great grandfather.

    Zombor (Horka) of Transylvania is your 30th great grandfather.



    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
    his mother



    Archibald Douglas "The Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas
    her father



    Sir James Douglas of Lothian
    his father



    Elisabeth Stewart of Crawford
    his mother



    Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
    her father



    Bethóc nic Gille Crist, Countess of Angus
    his mother



    Marjorie de Huntingdon, Princess of the Scots
    her mother



    Henry, Earl of Huntingdon
    her father



    David I, King of Scots
    his father



    Saint Margaret of Scotland
    his mother



    ÁRPÁD(házi) Ágota - Agatha, Princess of Hungary
    her mother



    ÁRPÁD(házi) Vajk►Szent István - Saint Stephan, 1st King of Hungary
    her father



    Sarolt - Sarolta fejedelemasszony, az erdélyi Zombor gyula II leánya / Grand Princess consort of the Magyars, daughter of Zombor gyula II of Transylvania
    his mother



    Erdélyi Prokuj (Gyula), of Transylvania
    her father



    Zombor (Horka) of Transylvania
    his father
    is your 30th great grandfather


    Zombor (Horka) of Transylvania




    Birth:

    estimated between 850 and 910 



    Immediate Family:


    Son of Töhötöm - Tétény a magyarok vezére / Chief of Magyars / and Spouse of Töhötöm / Tétény N/A
    Husband of Spouse of Horka N/A
    Father of Erdélyi Prokuj (Gyula), of Transylvania and Zsombor of Transylvania
    Half brother of Elodus Dulo; Andus (Ond) Dulo and Tasuh Dulo




    Added by:

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    Managed by:

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    Post  THEeXchanger Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:33 pm


    "mother" of 'Hét vezér' / Seven hungarian Chief
    is your 32nd great grandmother.

    http://www.geni.com/people/mother-of-H%C3%A9t-vez%C3%A9r-Seven-hungarian-Chief/6000000004679019364?through=6000000004679239974

    "mother" of 'Hét vezér' / Seven hungarian Chief MP
    Birth:
    circa 840
    Immediate Family:
    Wife of Álmos, magyar vezér, (Árpád apja / father of Árpád);
    Chief of the Magyars
    Partner of Y2, Ond apja / father of Ond;
    Y3, Kond apja / father of Kond;
    Y4, Tas apja - father of Tas;
    Y5, Huba apja - father of Huba;
    Y6, Töhötöm apja / father of Töhötöm;
    and Y7, Előd apja
    Mother of Ond, magyar vezér;
    Kond, Magyar vezér; Tas, magyar vezér; Huba, magyar vezér;
    Töhötöm - Tétény a magyarok vezére / Chief of Magyars /
    and Előd, magyar vezér

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    http://www.geni.com/people/Y6-T%C3%B6h%C3%B6t%C3%B6m-apja-father-of-T%C3%B6h%C3%B6t%C3%B6m/6000000004679239974?through=6000000004679563653

    Y6, Töhötöm apja / father of Töhötöm is your 32nd great grandfather.


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    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
    his mother



    Archibald Douglas "The Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas
    her father



    Sir James Douglas of Lothian
    his father



    Elisabeth Stewart of Crawford
    his mother



    Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
    her father



    Bethóc nic Gille Crist, Countess of Angus
    his mother



    Marjorie de Huntingdon, Princess of the Scots
    her mother



    Henry, Earl of Huntingdon
    her father



    David I, King of Scots
    his father



    Saint Margaret of Scotland
    his mother



    ÁRPÁD(házi) Ágota - Agatha, Princess of Hungary
    her mother



    ÁRPÁD(házi) Vajk►Szent István - Saint Stephan, 1st King of Hungary
    her father
    (start here)


    Sarolt - Sarolta fejedelemasszony, az erdélyi Zombor gyula II leánya / Grand Princess consort of the Magyars, daughter of Zombor gyula II of Transylvania
    his mother
    is your 28th great grandmother.

    ÁRPÁD(házi) Géza, a magyarok nagyfejedelme / Grand prince of the Hungarians is your 28th great grandfather.
    Taksony, Prince of Hungary is your 29th great grandfather.

    ÁRPÁD(házi) Zoltán - Zsolt -Zaltas, Prince of Hungary
    is your 30th great grandfather.

    Árpád vezér / Grand Prince of Magyars, a magyar ÁRPÁD-ház névadója, a 'Honfoglaló'
    is your 31st great grandfather.

    Álmos, magyar vezér, (Árpád apja / father of Árpád); Chief of the Magyars is your 32nd great grandfather.

    Ügek - Ogyek, Álmos apja - Father of Almos, Prince of Magyars
    is your 33rd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/%C3%9Cgek-Ogyek-%C3%81lmos-apja-Father-of-Almos-Prince-of-Magyars/6000000004555466226?through=6000000006357694530

    Emese, Princess of Magyars, Álmos anyja - Mother of Álmos
    is your 33rd great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Emese-Princess-of-Magyars-%C3%81lmos-anyja-Mother-of-%C3%81lmos/6000000006906428333?through=6000000004555466226
    Venedobel - Őnedbelia Chief of the Magyars / a magyarok vezére
    is your 34th great grandfather.
    Avarius Chief of the Magyars is your 35th great grandfather.
    Elendus of the Huns (Magyars), Chief is your 36th great grandfather.
    Vegerus - Vegecus Chief of the Huns - Magyars
    is your 37th great grandfather.
    Edur, Chief of the Huns (Magyars) is your 38th great grandfather.
    Kulchug of the Huns is your 39th great grandfather.
    Chazew Dulo is your 40th great grandfather.
    Kadiha - Kudiha Chief of the Huns / Magyars?
    is your 41st great grandfather.
    Edus I Chief of the Huns / Magyars? is your 42nd great grandfather.
    Chaba / Chola Prince of the Huns is your 43rd great grandfather.
    Ernak, King of Huns is your 44th great grandfather.
    Attila "Scourge of God", 59th King of the Huns
    is your 45th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Attila-Scourge-of-God-59th-King-of-the-Huns/6000000000722248117?through=6000000005218821426
    *do female side down,
    and, continue with male/female side going UP





    Veget a magyarok vezére / Chefe dos Magiares
    is your 34th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Veget-a-magyarok-vez%C3%A9re-Chefe-dos-Magiares/6000000006357694530?through=6000000008838216943

    wife of Chief of the Magiares is your 34th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/wife-of-Chief-of-the-Magiares/6000000008838216943?through=6000000006357694530



    Erdélyi Prokuj (Gyula), of Transylvania
    her father
    is your 29th great grandfather
    Spouse of Prokuj Transylvania is your 29th great grandmother.



    Zombor (Horka) of Transylvania
    his father
    is your 30th great grandfather
    Spouse of Horka N/A is your 30th great grandmother. Spouse of Horka N/A is your 30th great grandmother.



    Töhötöm - Tétény a magyarok vezére / Chief of Magyars /
    his father
    is your 31st great grandfather
    Spouse of Töhötöm / Tétény N/A is your 31st great grandmother.



    Y6, Töhötöm apja / father of Töhötöm
    his father
    is your 32nd great grandfather
    "mother" of 'Hét vezér' / Seven hungarian Chief
    is your 32nd great grandmother
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    Post  Mercuriel Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:44 pm

    Uhhhmmm,

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    Post  THEeXchanger Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:48 pm

    Going to connect the dots
    and, tell some stories about some of these lineages
    -it might help you to understand
    some of the world history
    -how, someone like myself has all 4+ root races
    -and, of course, what it means to be
    - a hidden one Wink

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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:05 am

    ISIS is your 132nd great grandmother

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    www.geni.com/people/Isis/6000000018565219099?through=6000000018565098205 Isis is your 124th great grandmother.

    Isis is your 124th great grandmother.

    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother



    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
    his mother



    Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard
    her mother



    Joan de Menteith
    her mother



    Helena of Mar
    her mother



    Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar
    her father



    Elen ferch Llywelyn, Countess
    his mother



    Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
    her father



    Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain
    his father



    Gwladys verch Llywarch
    his mother



    Dyddgu verch Iorwerth
    her mother



    Iorwerth ap Cadwgon
    her father



    Elen verch Brochwel
    his mother



    Brochwel ab Aeddan, Lord of Powys
    her father



    Aeddan ap Cyngen
    his father



    Cyngen ap Cadell
    his father



    Cadell ap Brochwel
    his father



    Brochwel ap Elisedd
    his father



    Elisedd ap Gwylog
    his father



    Sanan ferch Nowy
    his mother



    Nowy ap Arthwyr
    her father



    Arthwyr ap Pedr
    his father



    Pedr ap Cyngar
    his father



    Cyngar ap Gwerthefyr
    his father



    Gwerthefyr ap Aergul lawhir
    his father



    Aircol ap Triffyn, King Of Demetia
    his father



    Triffyn mac Aed Brosc, Brenin Dyfed
    his father



    Aed Brosc mac Corath, King
    his father



    Corach ap Eochaid Allmuir
    his father



    Eochaid Allmuir mac Art Corp
    his father



    Art Corp mac Cairbre Rigron
    his father



    Cairpre Rigronn mac Fiachadh
    his father



    Fiachadh mac Fedelmid
    his father



    Fedlimid Rechtmar, 108th High King of Ireland
    his father



    Túathal Teachtmhar, 106th High King of Ireland
    his father



    Fiacha Finnfolaidh mac Feredach, Ard rí na h'Éireann
    his father



    Feradach Finnfechtnach mac Crimhthann, Ard rí na h'Éireann
    his father



    Criomhthann Niadh Nár mac Lughaidh, Rí na h'Éireann
    his father



    Lughaidh Sriabh-n Dearg mac Findemna, Rí na h'Éireann
    his father



    Bres, Nár and Lothar Findemna mac Echdach
    his father



    Eochaidh Feidlioch mac Fionn, Rí na h'Éireann
    his father



    Finn mac Fionlogha, King in Ireland
    his father



    Fionnlogh O'Henna, King in Ireland
    his father



    Roignein Ruadh Mac Esamon O'Henna, King of Ireland
    his father



    Eassamhuin Eamhna mac Enna
    his father



    Enna Aignech, Ard Rí na h'Éireann
    his father



    Aengus Tuirbheach, 81st High King of Ireland
    his father



    Eochaid Ailtleathan, 79th High King of Ireland
    his father



    Ailill Cas-Fiacalaig, 77th High King of Ireland
    his father



    Condla Cáem, 76th High King of Ireland
    his father



    Irero Gleo Fáthach, 74th High King of Ireland
    his father



    Meilge Molbhthach, 71st High King of Ireland
    his father



    Cobhthach Cóel Breg, High King of Ireland
    his father



    Úgaine Mór mac Echach, 66th High King of Ireland
    his father



    Eochaid Buaidhaig mac Duach
    his father



    Duach II mac Fiachach
    his father



    Fiachadh mac Muiredach
    his father



    Muireadhach I Balgrach mac Simon
    his father



    Simon mac Aedham, King of Ireland
    his father



    Aedham/Aodhan Glas, King of Ireland
    his father



    Nuadhat Finn Fail mac Giallchaidh
    his father



    Giallchaidh mac Olioll, 37th High King of Ireland
    his father



    Oilioll Olchaoin mac Siorna, King of Ireland
    his father



    Siorna Saoghalach mac Dain, Ard Rí na h'Éireann
    his father



    Deman mac Rotheachta, Prince of Ireland
    his father



    Rothechtaid MacMaen
    his father



    Maoin I Oilbhuagach MacAongus
    his father



    Aonghus Olmucadha The Big Headed One Mac Fiacha, Rí na h'Éireann
    his father



    Fiacha Labhrainne MacSimorgoill
    his father



    Simorgoill mac Eanbotha, High King of Ireland
    his father



    Eanbrotha MacTighearnmas King of Ireland
    his father



    Tighearnmhas Masius mac Follach, High King of Ireland
    his father



    Follach Folian mac Eithrial
    his father



    Eithriall, 11th High King of Ireland
    his father



    Irial Faidh mac Eremoin, 10th Ard Rí na h'Éireann
    his father



    Érimón mac Míl Espáine, 2nd High King of Ireland
    his father



    Scota, Queen of the Gadelians
    his mother



    Wehimbre Necho, King of Egypt
    her father



    Wahibre Psamtek I, King of Egypt
    his father



    Menkheperre Necho I of Sais and Memphis
    his father



    Prince Ibre Nakauba
    his father



    Wahkare Bekenranef of Sais, King of Egypt (d. 712 BC)
    his father



    Shepsesre Tefnakhte I of Sais, King of Egypt
    his father



    Osorkon, Great Chief of Ma
    his father



    Usermare Setepenre Pimay, King of Egypt (d. 773 BC)
    his father



    Djedbastesankh of Memphis
    his mother



    Takelot, High Priest of Ptah at Memphis
    her father



    Shoshenk, High Priest of Ptah at Memphis
    his father



    Princess Karoma
    his mother



    Hedjkheperre Setepenamun Harsiese King of Egypt
    her father



    Heqakheperre Setepenre Shoshenk, King of Egypt
    his father



    Princess Maatkare of Egypt
    his mother



    Pinudjem II Titkheperre, High Priest of Egypt
    her father



    Princess Istemkheb of Egypt
    his mother



    Akheperre Psibkha’emne, King of Egypt
    her father



    Henuttawy of Egypt
    his mother



    Khaemwaset Menmare Ramses XI, King of Egypt (d. 1070 BC)
    her father



    Amenhirkhopsef Khepermarc Ramses X, King of Egypt (d. 1098 BC)
    his father



    Khaemwaset Neferkare Ramses IX, King of Egypt (d. 1108 BC)
    his father



    Sethirkhopsef Usirmare Ramses, King of Egypt (d. 1126 BC)
    his father



    Usimare Meryamun Ramses III, King of Egypt
    his father



    Usirkha’ure Meryamun Seknakht, King of Egypt
    his father



    Usirmare Setepenre Ramses II, of Egypt (1314-1224 BC)
    his father



    Sety Meryenptah, King of Egypt
    his father



    Queen Sitre of Egypt
    his mother



    Nebmare Amenhotep III, Egypt
    her father



    Menkheprure Thutmose (Djehutymes) IV, King of Egypt
    his father



    Aakheperure Amenhotep II, King of Egypt (d. 1400 BC)
    his father



    Menkheperre Thutmose III, of Egypt
    his father



    Isis
    his mother

    Isis
    Immediate Family:

    Wife of Akheperenre Thutmose II, King of Egypt
    Mother of Menkheperre Thutmose III, of Egypt
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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:08 am

    St. Lucius Lleuver Mawr, King of the Silures
    is your 43rd great grandfather.





    Lleuver Mawr (Lucius the Great) the Second Blessed Sovereign ap Coilus, Saint, King of the Silures MP




    Place of Burial:

    baptized, Timothy, Winchester, abt 136



    Birth:

    circa 140
    Trevan, Llanilid, Glamorganshire, Wales



    Death:

    circa 156 (16)
    St Mary Le Lode, Gloucestershire, England



    Immediate Family:


    Son of Coilus ap Marius, King of Britain; King Coel of Britons and Ystdrawl
    Husband of Gladys "The Elder" Ferch Eurgen
    Father of Eurgen verch Lleuver Mawr; Cadwalladr (Cadvan) of Cambria, III Blessed Sovereign; Gwladys Princess of Britain (Silures tribe); Keribir ap Lucius, of Colchester and Gwladys Or Gladys Ferch Lleiffer Mawr Princess of Cumbria
    Brother of Emerita verch Coel, Saint; N.N. verch Coilus; Athildis verch Coilus (Fictitious) and NN ap Coilus, Grandfather of Aoife . of Gall-Gaidheal




    Added by:

    Joseph Bilodeau on June 19, 2007



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    St. Lucius Lleuver Mawr, King of the Silures is your 43rd great grandfather.



    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother






    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father



    JAMES HANDY
    his father



    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother



    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father



    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father



    John Ruthven
    his father



    George Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    William Ruthven
    his father



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father



    Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
    his mother



    Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
    her father



    George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
    his father



    Sir John Halyburton
    his father



    Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
    his mother



    Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard
    her mother



    Joan de Menteith
    her mother



    Helena of Mar
    her mother



    Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar
    her father



    Elen ferch Llywelyn, Countess
    his mother



    Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
    her father



    Marared verch Madog
    his mother



    Susanna verch Gruffydd
    her mother



    Angharad verch Owain
    her mother



    Morwyl verch Ednywain
    her mother



    Gwerful verch Lluddica
    her mother



    Lluddica ap Tudur
    her father



    Tudur Trefor ap Ynyr
    his father



    Ynyr ap Gwernen
    his father



    Gwernen ap Cadfarch
    his father



    Cadfarch ap Gwaeddgar
    his father



    Gwaeddgar ap Bywyn
    his father



    Bywyn ap Byordderch
    his father



    Byordderch ap Gwylawr
    his father



    Gwylawr ap Gwynfyw
    his father



    Gwynfyw Frych
    his father



    Gwdfil verch Brychan
    his mother



    Prawst verch Tudwal
    her mother



    Tudwal, King of Dumnonia
    her father



    Gwrfawr ap Cadfan, King of Dumnonia
    his father



    Gwladys Princess of Britain (Silures tribe)
    his mother



    St. Lucius Lleuver Mawr, King of the Silures
    her father

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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:20 am

    born: 137 110 119 or 105, 140, 5/28/130, 160, c. 5/28/137 , 120

    died: 201 180 or 181, 180, 12/3/201

    --------------------

    Lleuver Mawr (Lucius the Great) , the Second Blessed Sovereign

    (Cadwalader was the Third Blessed Sovereign), was baptized by his

    father's first cousin, St. Timothy, who suffered martyrdom at age 90 on

    August 22, 139. When in 170 A.D. Lucius succeeded to the throne of

    Britain he became the first Christian king of the world. He married

    Gladys, daughter of Eurgen, granddaughter of Marius and his wife, the

    daughter of Boadicea (Victoria). Lucius founded the first church at

    Llandaff and changed the established religion of Britain from Druidism

    to Christianity. He died in 181, leaving an only one recorded child, a

    daughter, Gladys.

    See the WIKIPEDIA article on Lucius at:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_of_Britain

    --------------------

    Lleuver Mawr (Lucius the Great) , the Second Blessed Sovereign

    (Cadwalader was the Third Blessed Sovereign), was baptized by his

    father's first cousin, St. Timothy, who suffered martyrdom at age 90 on

    August 22, 139. When in 170 A.D. Lucius succeeded to the throne of

    Britain he became the first Christian king of the world. He married

    Gladys, daughter of Eurgen, granddaughter of Marius and his wife, the

    daughter of Boadicea (Victoria). Lucius founded the first church at

    Llandaff and changed the established religion of Britain from Druidism

    to Christianity. He died in 181, leaving an only one recorded child, a

    daughter, Gladys.

    --------------------

    Lucius King of Britain (Silures tribe)

    Born : Abt. 110

    Died : Abt. 180 Wrote Pope Eleutherius for permission to become babtized as Christian

    Father Coel (Croilus) King of Britain (Silures tribe)

    Mother Dght. Princess of Britain (Catuvellauni tribe)

    Marriage ?

    Children - - Gwladys Princess of Britain (Silures tribe)

    Forrás / Source:

    http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/persons/per03441.htm#0

    --------------------

    Lleuver Mawr (Lucius the Great) , the Second Blessed Sovereign

    (Cadwalader was the Third Blessed Sovereign), was baptized by his

    father's first cousin, St. Timothy, who suffered martyrdom at age 90 on

    August 22, 139. When in 170 A.D. Lucius succeeded to the throne of

    Britain he became the first Christian king of the world. He married

    Gladys, daughter of Eurgen, granddaughter of Marius and his wife, the

    daughter of Boadicea (Victoria). Lucius founded the first church at

    Llandaff and changed the established religion of Britain from Druidism

    to Christianity. He died in 181, leaving an only one recorded child, a

    daughter, Gladys.

    --------------------

    Reference: http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rwfurtaw&id=I9619&ti=5538 -------------------- ID: I67792

    Name: Lleuvar Mawr "Lucius the Great"

    Sex: M

    Death: 3 DEC 201 in ,Gloucester,England

    Christening: 28 MAY 137

    Note:

    Source: Kraentzler 1796.

    Smallwood says he was King of the Britons from 170-181 A.D.

    Change Date: 12 JUL 2000 at 21:32:51 -------------------- King of Britain. In 179 he requested Pope Eleutherus to send missionaries to Britain. He established 68 dioceses with three archbishoprics.

    Possibly, he was married to his cousin

    His Feast Day is December 3.

    . -------------------- 2108788192027534. Good King Lucius BRITAIN 1601,1746 was born in 147 in , , , Great Britain and died in 181 in , , , Great Britain at age 34.

    General Notes:

    Lleuver Mawr was the second blessed sovereign, a great grandson of Carodoc. He was baptized at Winchester by his father's first cousin, St. Timothy, who suffered martyrdom at age 90 on 22 August A.D. 139.

    In A.D. 170 Lucius succeeded to the throne of Britain and became the first Christian king in the world. He founded the first church at Llandaff and changed the established religion of Britain from Druidism to Christianity.

    He died in A.D. 181 leaving an only recorded child , a daughter,Gladys.

    Lucius married Queen Gladys (The Elder) BRITAIN 1601 in <, , , Great Britain>. Gladys was born in , , Colchester, Great Britain and died in Y.

    The child from this marriage was:

    1054394096013767 i. Gladys (The Younger) BRITAIN (born in 174 in , , , Great Britain - died in Y)

    2108788192027535. Queen Gladys (The Elder) BRITAIN,1601,1746 daughter of Unknown and Princess Eurgen BRITAIN, was born in , , Colchester, Great Britain and died in Y.

    Gladys married Good King Lucius BRITAIN 1601 in <, , , Great Britain>. Lucius was born in 147 in , , , Great Britain and died in 181 in , , , Great Britain at age

    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mgholler/Caden/a51.htm#i547459186

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    Lucius of Britain

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    Saint Lucius of Britain

    Died 2nd century

    Venerated in Catholic Church

    Major shrine cathedral of Chur

    Feast 3 December

    Patronage Liechtenstein; Diocese of Vaduz; Diocese of Chur

    Saint Lucius is a legendary 2nd-century King of the Britons traditionally credited with introducing Christianity into Britain. Lucius is first mentioned in a 6th-century version of the Liber Pontificalis, which says that he sent a letter to Pope Eleuterus asking to be made a Christian. The story became widespread after it was repeated in the 8th century by Bede, who added the detail that after Eleuterus granted Lucius' request, the Britons followed their king in conversion and maintained the Christian faith until the Diocletianic Persecution of 303. Later writers expanded the legend, giving accounts of missionary activity under Lucius and attributing to him the foundation of certain churches.[1]

    There is no contemporary evidence for a king of this name, and modern scholars believe that his appearance in the Liber Pontificalis is the result of a scribal error.[1] However, for centuries the story of this "first Christian king" was widely believed, especially in Britain, where it was considered an accurate account of Christianity among the early Britons. During the English Reformation, the Lucius story was used in polemics by both Catholics and Protestants; Catholics considered it evidence of papal supremacy from a very early date, while Protestants used it to bolster claims of the primacy of a British national church founded by the crown.[2]

    Contents [hide]

    1 Sources

    2 Veneration in Chur

    3 Notes

    4 References

    5 External links


    [edit] Sources

    The first mention of Lucius and his letter to Eleuterus is in the Catalogus Felicianus, a version of the Liber Pontificalis created in the 6th century.[1] Why the story appears there has been a matter of debate. In 1868 Arthur West Haddan and William Stubbs suggested that it might have been pious fiction invented to support the efforts of missionaries in Britain in the time of Saint Patrick and Palladius.[3] However, modern scholars follow the argument first proposed by Adolf von Harnack in 1904 that sees the story as a deriving from a scribal error substituting Britanio, referring to Britannia, for Britio, referring to Birtha or Britium in what is now Turkey. In 179 Birtha was ruled by the Christian-friendly Roman client king of Osroene whose full title was Lucius Aelius Megas Abgar IX.[3]

    The English monk Bede included the Lucius story in his Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum, completed in 731. He may have gotten it from a contemporary who had been to Rome, such as Nothhelm.[1] Bede adds the detail that Lucius' new faith was thereafter adopted by his people, who maintained it until the Diocletianic Persecution. Following Bede, versions of the Lucius story appeared in the 9th-century Historia Brittonum, and in 12th-century works such as William of Malmesbury's Gesta pontificum Anglorum and the Book of Llandaff.[1][4] However, the most influential was that in Geoffrey of Monmouth's 12th-century chronicle Historia Regum Britanniae. Geoffrey's narrative emphasizes Lucius' virtues, and gives a detailed, if fanciful, account of the spread of Christianity during his reign.[5] In this version, Lucius is the son of the benevolent King Coilus and rules in the manner of his father.[6] Hearing of the miracles and good works performed by Christian disciples, he writes to Pope Eleuterus asking to join the flock. Eleuterus sends two missionaries, Fuganus and Duvianus, who baptize the king and establish a successful Christian order throughout Britain. They convert the commoners and flamens, turn pagan temples into churches, and establish dioceses and archdioceses where the flamens had previously held power.[6] The pope is pleased with their accomplishments, and Fuganus and Duvianus recruit another wave of missionaries to aid the cause.[7] Lucius responds by granting land and privileges to the Church. He dies without heir in AD 156, thereby weakening Roman influence in Britain.[8]

    Later traditions are mostly based on one of these accounts, probably including a medieval inscription at the church of St Peter upon Cornhill in Cornhill, London in the City of London. There he is credited with having founded the St Peter's in 179 AD.

    Saint Lucius's feast day is on 3 December and he was canonized through the pre-congregational method.

    [edit] Veneration in Chur

    The legendary first bishop of Chur and patron saint of the Grisons (Switzerland) was also named Lucius, with whom the British Lucius is not to be confused. It is possible, however, that the mentioning of Saint Lucius of Britain in the Liber Pontificalis soon led to a scholarly identification of the otherwise somewhat shapeless patron saint with his more prominent British namesake. His supposed relics are still kept in the cathedral of Chur, although there is little doubt among scholars that the bishopric was only established some 150 years after its alleged founder was martyred.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_of_Britain

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    King Lucius

    In his ‘Historia Ecclesiastica Gentis Anglorum’ (Ecclesiastical History of the English People), the Anglo-Saxon chronicler Bede writes that:

    “In the year of our Lord's incarnation 156, Marcus Antoninus Verus, the fourteenth from Augustus, was made emperor, together with his brother, Aurelius Commodus.”

    The emperors referred to in the above statement are usually known as Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus. Bede inherited the unfamiliar names from, his source for this sentence, Orosius. Bede, a pioneer in the use of use of Christ's incarnation as a method of dating, has calculated that their reign began in 156. They actually ruled jointly from 161 to 169.* Bede continues:

    “In their time, whilst Eleutherus [Eleutherius], a holy man, presided over the Roman church, Lucius, king of the Britons, sent a letter to him, entreating, that by his command he might be made a Christian. He soon obtained the object of his pious request, and the Britons preserved the faith, which they had received, uncorrupted and entire, in peace and tranquillity until the time of the Emperor Diocletian.”

    ‘Historia Ecclesiastica Gentis Anglorum’ Book I Chapter 4

    In a recap at the end of the ‘Ecclesiastical History’, Bede states:

    “In the year from the incarnation of our Lord 167, Eleutherius, being made bishop at Rome, governed the Church most gloriously fifteen years. Lucius, king of Britain, writing to him, requested to be made a Christian, and succeeded in obtaining his request.”*

    ‘Historia Ecclesiastica Gentis Anglorum’ Book V Chapter 24

    Eleutherius became pope, rather later than Bede reckoned, in about 174. Bede's are the earliest ‘domestic’ records of a British King Lucius. His source was evidently an, almost certainly erroneous, entry in a variation, made c.530, of the 'Liber Pontificalis' (Book of the Popes). There is a theory that the author of the error misread the word 'Britio' (referring to the fortress of Edessa, capital of Osroene, Mesopotamia), in his source, as 'Britannio'. The king being referred to, therefore, was Lucius Abgar (177–212) of Osroene – an identification which has the considerable advantage of being of someone who is known to have existed. At any rate, the (in all probability) non existent British Lucius' story was absorbed into history.

    In the early 1120s, the respected historian William of Malmesbury, in his ‘Gesta Regum Anglorum’ (Deeds of the Kings of England), wrote:

    “It is related in annals of good credit, that Lucius, king of the Britons, sent to Pope Eleutherius, thirteenth in succession from St.Peter, to entreat that he would dispel the darkness of Britain by the light of Christian instruction. This surely was the commendable deed of a magnanimous prince, eagerly to seek that faith, the mention of which had barely reached him, at a time when it was an object of persecution by almost every king and people to whom it was offered. In consequence, preachers, sent by Eleutherius, came into Britain, the effects of whose labours will remain forever, although the rust of antiquity may have obliterated their names. By these was built the ancient church of St.Mary of Glastonbury, as faithful tradition has handed down through decaying time.”

    ‘Gesta Regum Anglorum’ Book I Chapter 19

    Around the same time that William issued his ‘Gesta Regum’ (i.e. about 1125), a compilation of materials pertaining to the diocese of Llandaff, the ‘Liber Landavensis’ (Book of Llandaff), was being written up by an anonymous hand. It avers that:

    “In the year of our Lord 156, Lucius, King of the Britons, sent his ambassadors, Elfan and Medwy, to Eleutherius, who was the twelfth Pope of the apostolic see, imploring, according to his admonition, that he might be made a Christian, to which request he acceded; for giving thanks to God because that nation, which from the first inhabiting thereof by Brutus had been heathens, so ardently desired to embrace the faith of Christ, he with the advice of the elders of the Roman city, was pleased to cause the ambassadors to be baptized; and on their embracing the Catholic faith, Elfan was ordained a Bishop, and Medwy a Doctor. Through their eloquence, and the knowledge which they had in the Holy Scriptures, they returned preachers to Lucius in Britain; by whose holy preaching, Lucius, and the nobles of all Britain, received baptism; and according to the command of St.Eleutherius, the Pope, he constituted an ecclesiastical order, ordained bishops, and taught the way of leading a good life.”

    ‘Liber Landavensis’, ‘Of the First State of the Church of Llandaff’

    According to lore – as recorded in the, early-9th century, ‘Historia Brittonum’ (History of the Britons) – Brutus, a Trojan, was the eponymous founder and first king of Britain. In the late 1130s, Geoffrey of Monmouth wrote his fanciful, but apparently very popular, ‘Historia Regum Britanniae’ (History of the Kings of Britain). Geoffrey took the traditional anecdotes of the ‘Historia Brittonum’ and worked them into a fully developed pseudo-history of Britain. It was the inventive Geoffrey who brought King Arthur to a wide audience.* King Lucius is but another of the historical shadows his imagination fleshed-out:

    “Coillus had but one son, named Lucius, who, obtaining the crown after his father's decease, imitated all his acts of goodness, and seemed to his people to be no other than Coillus himself revived. As he had made so good a beginning, he was willing to make a better end: for which purpose he sent letters to pope Eleutherius, desiring to be instructed by him in the Christian religion. For the miracles which Christ's disciples performed in several nations wrought a conviction in his mind; so that being inflamed with an ardent love of the true faith, he obtained the accomplishment of his pious request. For that holy pope, upon receipt of this devout petition, sent to him two most religious doctors, Faganus and Duvanus, who, after they had preached concerning the incarnation of the word of God, administered baptism to him, and made him a proselyte to the Christian faith. Immediately upon this, people from all countries, assembling together, followed the king's example, and being washed in the same holy laver, were made partakers of the kingdom of heaven. The holy doctors, after they had almost extinguished paganism over the whole island, dedicated the temples, that had been founded in honour of many gods, to the one only God and his saints, and filled them with congregations of Christians. There were then in Britain eight and twenty flamens, as also three archflamens, to whose jurisdiction the other judges and enthusiasts were subject. These also, according to the apostolic command, they delivered from idolatry, and where there were flamens made them bishops, where archflamens, archbishops. The seats of the archflamens were at the three noblest cities, viz. London, York and the City of Legions [Caerleon], which its old walls and buildings show to have been situated upon the river Uske in Glamorganshire. To these three, now purified from superstition, were made subject twenty-eight bishops, with their dioceses...

    At last, when they had made an entire reformation here, the two prelates returned to Rome, and desired the pope confirm what they had done. As soon as they had obtained a confirmation, they returned again to Britain, accompanied with many others, by whose doctrine the British nation was in a short time strengthened in the faith...

    In the meantime, the glorious king Lucius highly rejoiced at the great progress which the true faith and worship had made in his kingdom, and permitted the possessions and territories which formerly belonged to the temples of the gods, to be converted to a better use, and appropriated to, Christian churches. And because a greater honour was due to them than to the others, he made large additions of lands and manor houses, and all kinds of privileges to them. Amidst these and other acts of his great piety, he departed this life in the city of Gloucester, and was honourably buried in the cathedral church, in the hundred and fifty-sixth year after our Lord's incarnation. He had no issue to succeed him so that after his decease there arose a dissension among the Britons, and the Roman power was much weakened.”

    ‘Historia Regum Britanniae’ Book IV Chapters 19 & 20, Book V Chapter 1

    Translations:

    ‘Liber Landavensis’ by W.J. Rees

    Bede 'Historia Ecclesiastica Gentis Anglorum' by J.A. Giles

    William of Newburgh ‘Historia Rerum Anglicarum’ by Joseph Stevenson

    Orosius ‘Seven Books of History Against the Pagans’ translator unknown

    Geoffrey of Monmouth 'Historia Regum Britanniae' by Aaron Thompson, revised by J.A. Giles

    William of Malmesbury 'Gesta Regum Anglorum' by John Sharpe, revised by Joseph Stevenson

    http://www.dot-domesday.me.uk/lucius.htm

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    The Good King Lucius

    Rev L Smithett Lewis

    from St Joseph of Arimathea at Glastonbury, James Clarke & Co, London, 1955. Chapter One.

    This book is now re-published by Lutterworth

    St. Joseph's little circle of twelve disciples was kept going by anchorites – as one died another was appointed; but in course of time a certain slackness seems to have come over them. William of Malmesbury tells us that the holy spot at length became a covert of wild beasts.

    Then in the days of Good King Lucius aforesaid came a revival. Llewrug Mawr, Llewrug the Great (grandson of Saint Cyllinus and great-grandson of Caractacus), nicknamed Lleiver Mawr or the great luminary (hence his latinised name of Lux or Lucius), was king in Britain in the middle and towards the end of the 2nd century. He increased the Light that the first missionaries, the disciples of Christ, had brought, by sending emissaries to Eleutherius, Bishop of Rome, requesting him to send missionaries to Britain. The Welsh Triads tell us that Eleutherius, in response, sent Dyfan and Fagan, Medwy and Elfan, all of them British names, in AD 167.

    Monkish historians say that Elfan was the second Bishop of London. (Theanus, who died AD 185, was the first Bishop of London.) The Latin Book of Llandaff says that he was consecrated Bishop at the time of his mission to Rome. Welsh authorities say that he presided over a congregation of Christians at Glastonbury (Ivide/I Rev. Rice Rees's ILives of Welsh Saints/I). Godwin (Ide Praesulibus/I, pp. 169-170) says that he was brought up at Glastonbury, and was sent by Lucius to Eleutherius, that he founded a library "near the aforesaid Church" (St. Peter's, Cornhill, which was his seat as Bishop of London), and that he converted many Druids. Pitsaeus, the aforesaid Roman Catholic Canon in his Relationes Historicae de Rebus Aeglicis (Paris, 1619), among many "illustrious British writers" names Elvanus of Avalon, whom he puts about AD 180, and says that he was educated in the School of St. Joseph of Arimathaea, and that he wrote "concerning the origin of the British Church"


    But John Harding, in the reign of Edward IV, puts their mission at AD 190, which fits in with the papacy of Eleutherius, as does the date 183 given by Cardinal Baronius. Geoffrey of Monmouth tells us that Gildas (AD 516-570) recorded the names and acts of these missionaries in a book now lost, The Victory of Aurelius Ambrosius.

    The story appears again in the second revision of the Liber Pontificalis about AD 685. The Venerable Bede, 673-735, tells the story of Lucius's appeal to Eleutherius. But we hear little or nothing of the appeal to Rome until after the Augustinian Italian mission to this country in 597. The Latin Book of Llandaff, or Book of Teilo (probably compiled by Bishop Urban in the 12th century, but based upon a book of Bishop Teilo, 540), and John of Teignmouth in his life of St. Dubricius (1346), and Capgrave (1393-1464), "the most learned of English Augustinians whom the soil of England ever produced", and Archbishop Ussher in his De Brittanicarum Ecclesiarum Primordiis (pp. 49-50) tell us that Medwy and Elfan were Britons who were sent as emissaries by Good King Lucius and returned with the missionaries Dyfan and Fagan.

    It is noticeable that the pedigree of Dyfan, as given in the Cambrian Biography, makes him a Briton. The pedigree may be spurious, or he may have been a Briton resident in Rome. William of Malmesbury calls them Fagan and Deruvian, and Geoffrey of Monmouth Faganus and Duvanus. These missionaries journeyed through Britain and came to Glastonbury.

    There, God leading them (wrote William of Malmesbury), they found an old church built, as 'twas said, by the hands of Christ's disciples, and prepared by God Himself for the salvation of souls, which Church the Heavenly Builder Himself showed to be consecrated by many miraculous deeds, and many Mysteries of healing.... And they afterwards pondered the Heavenly message that the Lord had specially chosen this spot before all the rest of Britain as the place where His Mother's name might be invoked. They also found the whole story in ancient writings, how the Holy Apostles, having been scattered throughout the world, St. Philip coming into France with a host of disciples sent twelve of them into Britain to preach, and that there, taught by revelation they constructed the said chapel which the Son of God afterwards dedicated to the honour of His Mother; and, that to these same twelve, three kings, pagan though they were, gave twelve portions of land for their sustenance. Moreover, they found a written record of their doings, and on that account they loved this spot above all others, and they also, in memory of the first twelve, chose twelve of their own, and made them live on the island with the approval of King Lucius. These twelve thereafter abode there in divers spots as anchorites - in the same spots, indeed, which the first twelve inhabited (tradition- ally in huts round the wonderful Chalice Well at the foot of St. Michael's Tor). Yet they used to meet together continuously in the Old Church in order to celebrate Divine worship more devoutly; just as the three pagan kings had long ago granted the said island with its surroundings to the twelve former disciples of Christ, so the said Phagan and Deruvian (Dyfan) obtained it from King Lucius for these their twelve companions and for others to follow thereafter. And thus, many succeeding these, but always twelve in number, abode in the said island during many years up to the coming of St. Patrick, the apostle of the Irish.

    William of Malmesbury's Antiquities of Glastonbury, cap. 2. Those who have contended that there is no earlier authority than William of Malmesbury for the Great St. Patrick being first Abbot and dying at Glastonbury are upset by the discovery, in 1924, of St. Dunstan's own Psalter which he used at Canterbury, in the Calendar attached to which we read of "St. Patrick Senior at Glaston", vide Dean Armitage Robinson's Times of St. Dunstan, p.100. This is some 150 years earlier than William of Malmesbury. It is very significant that Irish pilgrims haunted Glastonbury in the Middle Ages.


    Fox, in his Acts and Monuments (Vol 1, p146), gives Eleutherius's letter to King Lucius, in reply to his request. It runs thus: "Ye require of us the Roman laws, and the Emperor's to be sent over to you, which you may practice and put in use in your realm. The Roman laws and the Emperor's we may ever reprove, but the law of God we may not. Ye have received of late through God's mercy in the realm of Britain the Law and Faith of Christ. Ye have with you within the realm both the parties of the Scriptures. Out of them, by God's grace, with the council of your realm, take ye a law that can (through God's sufferance) rule your kingdom of Britain. For ye be God's Vicar in your kingdom, according to the saying of the Psalm, 'O God, give Thy judgement to the King,' etc.". In the margin, Fox has this note: "Ex vetusto codice regum antiquorum" – from an old writing of ancient Kings.

    Good King Lucius probably flourished about the middle of the 2nd century: the Latins said in the latter part, the Welsh said in the middle. Probably both are right, as the time fits in well with the reigns of the two Antonines, whose edicts favoured the Christians, and the date of the Embassy to Eleutherius is probably AD 183. In his time Britain, first of all countries, became Christian. Hence the proud title of our Kings "Most Religious King" - just as from St. Joseph came the precedence of British Bishops. The Welsh Triads tell us that Lucius "bestowed the freedom of the country and nation with the privilege of judgement and surety, upon those who might be in the faith of Christ."

    Cressy, the Benedictine monk, who lived shortly after the Reformation, and who had imbibed many of the traditions of the Benedictine Monastery of Glastonbury (he mentions that St Joseph died at Glastonbury in July 27th, AD 82) kept alive on the Continent, tells us in his Church History of Brittany that, in company with his sister, St. Emerita, King Lucius finally went as a missionary through Bavaria, Rhoetia and Vindelicia, and was martyred near Curia in Germany.

    The story of Good King Lucius appears in writing as early as the second revision of the Liber Pontificalis about AD 685. At Chur in Switzerland, they state that Lucius King of the British and his sister are buried in the crypt of the very interesting old cathedral there.

    Some, who have studied the subject of Good King Lucius, claim that he died a Confessor in the City of Gloucester, and was "buried in the Church of St. Mary de Lode there. They claim that the Roman Martyrology has confused the British with the Bavarian Lucius. Among those who think so is Monsignor Bernard Williams of Painswick, Gloucestershire. The tradition is that Lucius built the Church of St. Mary de Lode in Gloucester. It is worth remembering that the learned Fox in his Acts and Monuments, wrote:

    The said Lucius after he had founded many churches, and given great riches and liberties to the same, deceased with great tranquillity in his own land, and was buried at Gloucester the 14th year after his baptism, as the book Flores Historiarum doth count, which was the year of Our Lord (as he saith) 201, and reckoneth his conversion to be Anno 187. In some I find his decease to be the 4th and in some the 10th year after his baptism, and hold that he reigned in all the space of 77 years.

    We must not forget that the Abbey of Westminster, then the Isle of Thorney, included good King Lucius in her claims. The Most Rev. Bernard Mary Williams, Roman Catholic Archbishop in England (pro-Uniate Rite), has lent me his MS notes on King Lucius, many of which I cite or quote here. The Archbishop calls his notes rough MS notes on Lucius first Christian King of Britain. He cites an English abridgement (1718) of Sir William Dugdale's Monasticon Anglicanum as saying,

    There is a tradition that a Bishop and Preachers were settled at Gloucester immediately after Lucius the first Christian King of Britain embraced the Faith, that is in the year of Grace 189. Antiquity testified that Eldadryn was Bishop of Gloucester in 489, and Dubricius in 522. Nay, the ancients make Gloucester an Archepiscopal See, when Lucius by the advice of Fugacius and Damianus sent hither by Pope Eleutherius converted the three Archflamens of London, York and Gloucester into so many Archbishoprics. After- wards the See was translated to Menevia or St. David's in Wales, but in the year 679 Wolphen, the first Christian King of the Mercians, beautified and enlarged Gloucester.

    The Monsignor points out that the Book of Llandaff tells of Lucius' embassy of Elfan and Medwy to Eleutherius and gives the date as 156, and it says that "Elfan was ordained a Bishop, and Medwy a Doctor". He says that "it was from Glastonbury that King Lucius first heard of the Christian faith". He also tells that "King Lucius' embassy is mentioned in the Chronicle of Fabius Ethelwerd, 975 1011, in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle most likely written by King Alfred the Great, or at any rate up to AD 891 or so, and in Bede's Ecclesiastical History, AD 730. All these I have verified. None of these mentions St. Joseph of Arimathaea, or the first beginnings at Glastonbury, and this for two reasons: (1) they were of different race and unfriendly; (2) they all wrote after the coming of St. Augustine, AD 597, and were unwilling to mention a British Catholic Foundation older than Rome itself." It is interesting that the Archbishop, a strong champion of the Papacy, and myself, have separately arrived at these two reasons.

    Nothing perhaps is more revealing of the way in which the history of our Celtic Church has been forgotten than the story of good King Lucius. The man in the street knows nothing about him. But Bede, Nennius, the Book of Llandaff, the Welsh Triads, the Mabinogion, Achaury Saint, Geoffrey of Monmouth, William of Malmesbury, Cressy, Cardinal Baronius, Ussher and Rees have told of him. Ussher in particular has written long and fully. The very uncertainty of the exact date of his conversion tells the same tale. There is a great volume of tradition which recounts the Baptism of Lucius, and the early national conversion of Britain. St. Peter's, Cornhill, in London, proclaims it, so do the early centres of British Christianity, Glastonbury, Llandaff and Gloucester. And the story lingers in the name of the following churches (three in Glamorganshire): Llanfedwy (Medwy's Church); Merthyr Dyfan (Dyfan the Martyr); St. Fagan's and Llan-Lleirwg (Lleirwg's or Lucius' Church), now St. Mellon's, near Cardiff.

    Just as it is very suspect whether the claim that Pope Celestine sent St. Patrick to Ireland be not a claim of after centuries, so a typical claim about Eleutherius may have crept into the Good King Lucius story. It may be true. The story, as it is told, suggests that Lucius, great-grandson of Arviragus, before he quite embraced the Christian religion, sent messengers to Rome, the centre of civilisation. But the case of St. Patrick makes us suspicious. St. Patrick's name was Succat. The name Patricius or Patrick was used as late as the 7th century to denote gentle or noble birth.

    William of Malmesbury tells us that St. Patrick was the first to gather the Anchorites at Glastonbury, unbroken successors of St. Joseph and his eleven companions, under one roof. It has often been contended that the Glastonbury St. Patrick was not the Apostle of Ireland. We have pointed out the evidence of the calendar attached to the Bosworth Psalter supporting the claim in St. Dunstan's time. But there is evidence practically con- temporary with St. Patrick, that the great St. Patrick died and was buried at Glastonbury. It is very likely that he was born and brought up in the neighbourhood. His father was Calpurnius, a deacon; his mother was Concessa; his grandfather was Potitus, a priest and also a decimo or magistrate of a Romano-British colony; and his great-grandfather was Odissus, another deacon – a name strangely recalling the wily Odysseus of Homer. So he lived in some Church centre. He tells us that he was born near Nem Thor, which means the lofty hill or tor. Another name connected with his birth was Bannavem Taberniae. I hazarded the guess that this was a corruption of the name Bona Venta Hiberniae, good market or meeting place for Ireland. Dr. Davey Biggs of Oxford arrived independently at the conclusion that the first part was Bona Venta, a Venta being a well-known centre. I think that this may have been Bristol, 27 miles from Glastonbury. The Irish frequently raided the neighbourhood of Bristol, and Irish raiders carried St. Patrick as a prisoner to Ireland for six years. Be this as it may, there is the ancient evidence in the text of this book for the great St. Patrick being buried at Glastonbury.

    St. Patrick being a Briton, it was quite natural for him to return to his native country, and quite natural to choose Glastonbury, the great Church centre there, and possibly his birthplace. It is very suspect whether the claim that Pope Celestine sent St. Patrick to Ireland be not a claim of after centuries. St. Patrick was the nephew maternally of the French Bishop St. Martin of Tours. A marginal note in the Cambridge MS. of William of Malmesbury's De Antiquitate Glastoniae tells us that St. Patrick after his captivity in Ireland met in England the two French Bishops St. Germanus and St. Lupus (after the Alleluia victory) and that he was twenty-two years under the teaching of St. Germanus at Auxerre. The honest and learned Abbe Riguet says that Pope Celestine consecrated St. Palladius instead of St. Patrick. He says "some authors, anxious to connect the Church of Ireland with Rome, wish to say that the Apostle was ordained Bishop by Pope Celestine. This is a detail which older documents do not give.... The first Bishop of Ireland is certainly Palladius, and not Patrick. On hearing of the death of Palladius, Patrick retraced his steps to Auxerre, where he was ordained by St. Germanus."

    Furthermore, Bede, so devoted to Rome, never even mentions St. Patrick! He ignores the Celtic saint consecrated by a French Bishop.

    The marginal note above referred to is only more explicit in detail than Malmesbury is in the text, for there he says that at the time of troubles with the Angles and the Pelagian heretics St. Germanus of Auxerre came to the help of the British, winning the Alleluia Victory, and returning home "took Patrick into the company of his immediate followers, and sent him some years afterwards by the command of Pope Celestine to preach to the Irish." But there is very little doubt that, although Rome and the Celtic Church were quite friendly in those days, Germanus acted on his own initiative. This accounts for the silence of Bede about Patrick. Bede's interests and knowledge were wrapped up mainly in the Roman Church and not in the great missionary efforts of the Celtic Church.

    On the other hand, the remains of dedications of the above churches to Medwy, Lucius' messenger, and Dyfan and Fagan, the Pope's messengers in reply, as well as to Lucius himself, certainly appears confirmatory, not only of the whole story, but of a Pope's part in it. But if the date was 167 it was not Eleutherius: if it was 183, it was.

    To sum up, it is interesting that English tradition associates Lucius with building churches in four great religious centres, Glastonbury, London, Llandaff and Gloucester, and that there still stand associated with him St. Michael's on the Tor at Glastonbury, St. Peter's, Cornhill, London, claimed to be the earliest Metropolitan Church of London, and four churches near Llandaff, one actually dedicated to him as Lleurwgg, and the others respectively to Dyfan, Fagan, and Medwy. The Welsh Church commemorated the baptism of King Lucius on May 28, and his Martyrdom on December 3, the latter an interesting commemoration. The Festival of St. Dyfan was kept on April 8, and that of St. Fagan on August 8. They were commemorated together on May 24, obviously part of the King Lucius commemoration. St. Elfan's Day was on September 26, and St. Medwy's on January 1.

    Geographically and architecturally there is strikingly visible support to these ancient traditions of the early Church at Glastonbury. Just as to the south-west of the little city stands Wyrral Hill, where the feet of the first disciples rested, where once grew the Holy Thorn, so to the southeast looms St. Michael's Tor, visible over half Somerset, and even from other counties, and crowned with the tower of St. Michael's Church, successor of the one wrecked by a severe earthquake." A lonely church set on a hill far above human habitation bespeaks here, as elsewhere, the site of a primitive Christian church converted from, or taking the place of, a heathen temple. It was the wise custom of our forefathers when a country was won for Christ to consecrate to Him, by crosses or churches, spots which were sacred in the minds of the inhabitants. This explains such lonely churches on hills as St. Michael's. Another is at Churchdown in Gloucestershire, which rises sheer out of the plain, the church at the terribly steep top ministering to the hamlets of Hucklecote and Chosen at its base. But the examples are common. It is a relic of Baal or Sun worship, when people worshipped in the groves and high places often mentioned in the Bible. And it is not at all uncommon to find these loftily-placed, lonely churches dedicated to St. Michael, as here, to signify that Christ and His angels had triumphed over the devil and his angels.

    Rather more than one hundred years after the coming of St. Joseph to Glastonbury, and the setting up of his little wattle church, the religion of Christ prevailed. It had been fostered here by King Arviragus, by direct missionary work; by the return of the converted family of King Caractacus straight from the feet of St. Paul; by the coming of Christian Roman soldiers and traders and colonists; by Apostolic and sub-Apostolic missions; and finally consummated by a mission from the Church of the Great Mistress of the World. The temples of Baal fell, and Britain was Christian. The Church of Rome in modern days scoffs at our beautiful British tradition of the Arimathaean Mission. She did not do so as long as we were in union with her. And Robert Parsons the great and self-sacrificing Jesuit, a man of noble zeal, embalmed the tradition in his Three Conversions of England, viz., by St. Joseph, by SS. Fagan and Dyfan, and by St. Augustine. It is extremely significant that, of the "Three Perpetual Choirs" of Britain, Glastonbury is at the foot of the Tor, once a centre of Druidic worship (as the tower of the Christian church still amidst all weathers and lights triumphantly proclaims north, south, east, and west); and Ambresbury is close' to Stonehenge, the great temple of Druidic worship.

    This dominating Tor rises out of the plain, and is the centre of a great basin ringed mound with hills. It is one of the few places in England where you can see more than a clear mile in every direction, and you can see many miles in every direction. There is a perpetual breeze at the top. One wishes that the little church could be restored, and the hill become a place of pilgrimage for consumptives, who could breathe the pure air, and rest, and say their devotions on this age-consecrated spot, and perchance stop on their downward journey to crave a drink of water from the medicinal waters of the Chalice Well.*

    * After a dream by one Matthew Chancellor in 1750 for a short time the water was in great demand, and a small spa was formed. It is a strong chalybeate, reputed to be especially good for asthma, phthisis and cancer. The spring yields about 25,000 gallons a day, and never lessens. Radioactivity has been found in it.


    As one stands here on the Tor with an absolutely uninterrupted circle of view, one can well understand that the spot was chosen for the worship of the sun. Perhaps it was this commanding lane, with the sacred well at its foot, which led to the presence of the court of Arviragus. Certain it is there are no lake villages in the Kingdom equal to the two which lie amid the marshes which surround the town - those of Godney and Meare – and the remains found in them date, roughly, from 200 BC.

    http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/history/lucius.html

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    -------------------- Lleuver Mawr (Lucius the Great) , the Second Blessed Sovereign

    (Cadwalader was the Third Blessed Sovereign), was baptized by his

    father's first cousin, St. Timothy, who suffered martyrdom at age 90 on

    August 22, 139. When in 170 A.D. Lucius succeeded to the throne of

    Britain he became the first Christian king of the world. He married

    Gladys, daughter of Eurgen, granddaughter of Marius and his wife, the

    daughter of Boadicea (Victoria). Lucius founded the first church at

    Llandaff and changed the established religion of Britain from Druidism

    to Christianity. He died in 181, leaving an only one recorded child, a

    daughter, Gladys. -------------------- Noteringar

    Förste kristne kung i Silurien

    -------------------- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jamesdow/s034/f000067.htm

    aka Lleirwg (Lleuver Lleiffer Llewfer) of BRITAIN; (first Christian) King of BRITONS (SILURIA)

    -------------------- Born: Before 5/28/0137 -------------------- He was the son of King 'Cole' Coilus and ruled much the same as his father.

    King Lucius became the first Christian in Britain. The British nation accepted Christianity under good King Lucius about A.D. 179. Eleuterus sent out Fuganus and Duvianus as missionaries and they converted St. Lucius after which they began to establish a Christian order throughout Britain. Around 180, he requested from Pope Eleuterus to send missionaries to Britain to Christianize the people. He had great success throughout south-western Britain.

    The missionaries converted old temples to churches and cathedrals throught his reign. York became the center for Albany and Deira, London became the center for Loegria and Cornwall, and Caerleon was the center for Cambria. The missionaries returned to Rome and then went back to Britain with more aides for the purpose of establishing full order on the isle. Lucius gave lands to the church and helped convert the people.

    St. Lucius may have become a missionary himself and might have travelled to Switzerland to preach to the Grissons. He is said to have died in Gloucester.

    Ashley's book of genealogy "The Mammoth Book of British Kings and Queens by Mike Ashley:

    Published by Carroll and Graf Publishers, INC:

    ISBN 0-7867-0692-9:Chart 1 on page 67.

    (submitted by Ron Custer) -------------------- BIRTH: 28 May 0137 in Montgomeryshire, Powys, Wales

    DEATH: 3 Dec 0201 - Gloucester, Britain

    FATHER: Lucius ap CROILUS COEL - BIRTH: Abt 100 in Montgomeryshire,

    Powys, Wales

    MOTHER:Unknown

    MARRIAGE: Abt. 0168 - Gwladys verch EURGEN - BIRTH: Abt 140 in Montgomeryshire,

    Powys, Wales

    CHILDREN:

    1. Cadwalladr ap LLEIFFER-LLEUVER-MAWR - Abt 170 in

    Montgomeryshire, Powys, Wales

    2. Eurgen verch LLEIFFER-LLEUVER-MAWR - Abt 175 in

    Montgomeryshire, Powys, Wales

    3. Gwladys verch LLEIFFER-LLEUVER-MAWR - Abt 180 in

    Montgomeryshire, Powys, Wales

    He was the son of Lucius who was the first christian in Britain.

    Lleiffer Mawr ruled after his father's death and was much like his father.

    He married Gwladys verch Eurgen and they had three children.

    "Some sources say that Lucius and Lleiffer are the same person and son of Crolius Coel.

    However, in my thinking the dates do not fit for that to be the case.

    Other sources say that Lucius was the son of Crolius Coel and the father of Lleiffer.

    This is what I have put here as the dates make much more sense."

    (Site owner - Marj Gisi)

    SOURCES:

    Ashley's book of genealogy

    "The Mammoth Book of British Kings and Queens by Mike Ashley:

    Published by Carroll and Graf Publishers, INC:

    ISBN 0-7867-0692-9:Chart 1 on page 67.

    (submitted by Ron Custer)

    Title: Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet & Cecily de Neville

    Author: Ernst-Friedrich Kraentzler

    Publication: published by author 1978 -------------------- http://www.daveweaverfamily.com/a50.htm#i59632

    1056003075318670. Llewfer Mawr King Of SILURIA-[59632],3,8,9,24 son of Coel I Of COLCHESTER "Old King Cole" -[59633] and Ystradwl Of SILURIA -[59634], was christened on 28 May 137 32 and died in 181 at age 44.

    General Notes: 1 NAME Lleuvar /Mawr/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import:Jan 17, 2001 1 DEAT 2 DATE 3 DEC 201 2 PLAC ,Gloucester, England 2SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001

    baptized by his father's cousin, St. Timothy [De La Pole.FTW]

    Source: Kraentzler 1796. Smallwood says he was King of the Britons from 170-181 A.D.

    Llewfer married Gwladys Verch EURGEN -[59597] [MRIN:25679] 3,8,9.,24

    Marriage Notes: 2 _PREF Y

    Children from this marriage were:

    i. KERIBIR -[59596] died on an unknown date.

    ii. Cadwalladr Ap Lleuvar MAWR -[57160] was born about 172. 32

    528001537659335 iii. Gladys Verch Lleuvar MAWR -[56996] (born about 190)

    iv. Gwladys "The Younger" Verch LLEWFER MAWR -[41687] was born in 177 and died.

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    1.Birth: ABT 147 in Siluria, Wales
    2.Death: 181 in Gloucester, England
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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:31 am

    FROM THE LINEAGE of DRUID KINGS & QUEENS
    Part 1 of 2

    Arvirargus ap Cunobelin, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni
    is your 58th great grandfather.

    Arvirargus Gweirdd Ap Cymbeline ap Cunobelin, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni MP
    Place of Burial:
    Wales
    Birth:
    10
    Catuvellauni Territory, Wales
    Death:
    circa 60 (50)
    Rome, Lazio, Italy
    Immediate Family:
    Son of Cunobelinus ap Tasciovanus, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni and Wife of Cunobelinus
    Husband of Genuissa Claudia, Queen of Siluria
    Father of Eurgen ap Caradog, Princess Of Britain; Saint Claudia; St. Cyllin / Marius ap Caradog, King of Britain; Linus Lleyn ap Caradoc, Pope, 1st Bishop of Rome and Guid ap Caradog
    Brother of Adminius ap Cunobelin; Guiderius ap Cunobelin; Togodumnus ap Cunobelin, of Catuvellauni & Dumnonii
    and Gladys Ferch Cunobelin, of Camulod
    Curated by:
    Catherine (Erin) Spiceland

    Arvirargus ap Cunobelin, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni
    is your 58th great grandfather.

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    Susan Lynne Schwenger
    You




    Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
    your mother




    JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
    her father
    your grandfather



    JAMES HANDY
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Marian Ruthven - Handy
    his mother
    your great grandmother


    ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
    her father
    your great grandfather


    ROBERT RUTHVEN
    his father
    your great grandfather


    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father
    your great grandfather


    JOHN RUTHVEN
    his father
    your great grandfather


    John Ruthven
    his father
    your great grandfather


    George Ruthven
    his father
    your great grandfather


    William Ruthven
    his father
    your great grandfather


    William Ruthven
    his father
    your great grandfather



    Sir William Ruthven
    his father
    your great grandfather


    William Ruthven, 2nd Lord of Ruthven
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Catherine Gray of Buttergask - Stewart - Ruthven
    his mother
    your great grandmother


    Elisabeth Stewart, Countess of Argyll
    her mother
    your great grandmother


    John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl
    her father
    your great grandfather


    James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Sir John Stewart of Innermeath
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Sir Robert Stewart
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Sir James Stewart
    his father
    your great grandfather


    John Stewart, Lord of Bonkyll
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Alan Fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Walter FitzAlan, 1st High Steward of Scotland
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Alan Fitz Flaad
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Flaald, Seneschal de Dol en Bretagne
    his father
    your great grandfather



    Alain FitzFlaald, Seneschal of Dol
    his father
    your great grandfather



    Flaald de Dol, Seneschal of Dol
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Aimon I, vicomte de Dinan
    his father
    your great grandfather



    Binidic "Castellin"
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Budic de Cornouaille, I, Prince
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Diles de Cornouaille, Prince Cornwall
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Ulfret de Cornouaille, Prince Cornwall
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Alfrond de Cornouaille
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Justin de Cornouaille, Pr Cornouille
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Constantine Cornouaille, Prince of Cornwall
    his father
    your great grandfather



    Judon Ap Concar, Pr. Cornouille
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Concar ap Gradlon, Prince of Cornwall
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Gradlon Ap Judicael
    his father
    your great grandfather



    Saint Judicael
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Hoël III de Cornouaille, roi de Bretagne
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Alain ap Hoel Fychan, I, King of Brittany
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Hoël ap Hoël Mawr, II, King of Brittany
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Hoël ap Emyr Llydaw, I, King of Brittany
    his father
    your great grandfather


    Budic ap Erich, King of Brittany
    his father
    your 45th great grandfather

    Elaine verch Gwyrlys is your 45th great grandmother.
    Birth: circa 475
    Tintagel Castle,Din-Tagell,Cornwall,Britian

    http://www.geni.com/people/Elaine-verch-Gwyrlys/6000000003635740200?through=6000000003635746575

    Gorlois (Hoel) of Tintagel aka Gorlois (Hoel) of Tintagel
    is your 46th great grandfather
    aka Gorlois Gwyr Llew ap Sartog, Duke Of Cornwall
    Birth: 460
    Tintagel Castle,,Cornwall,England
    Death: 490 (30)
    St Dennis
    http://www.geni.com/people/Gorlois-Hoel-of-Tintagel/6000000003036875438?through=6000000003635740200

    Igerna ferch Amlawdd, of Dumnonia is your 46th great grandmother.
    Birth: circa 450
    Britain
    Death:
    Caerlaveroc,Solwayfirth,Dumfries-Shire,Scotland
    http://www.geni.com/people/Igerna-ferch-Amlawdd/6000000003827288033?through=6000000003036875438

    Owen Desposyni, Archdruid & Prince Bard
    is your 47th great grandfather
    http://www.geni.com/people/Owen-Desposyni/6000000000172756221?through=6000000003827288033

    Viviane del Acqs, Queen of Burgundy Lady of The Lake
    is your 47th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Viviane-del-Acqs/6000000019994383181?through=6000000000172756221








    Erich ap Aldrien, Duke of Brittany
    his father
    your 46th great grandfather
    NN NN is your 46th great grandmother
    http://www.geni.com/people/Erich-ap-Aldrien/6000000004089110065?through=6000000016143290495


    Aldrien de Bretagne, King of Brittany
    his father
    is your 47th great grandfather

    [Junia] is your 47th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Junia/6000000003036826686?through=600000000408911006
    Decimus Junius Rusticus is your 48th great grandfather.
    CIRCA 450 FRANCE
    Wife of Decimus Junius Rusticus is your 48th great grandmother.
    circa 450 FRANCE
    http://www.geni.com/people/Decimus-Junius-Rusticus/6000000016143290495?through=6000000003036826686


    Salomon I ap Gradlon, King of Brittany
    his father
    is your 48th great grandfather

    Flavia Flavius is your 48th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Flavia-Flavius/6000000004089072249?through=6000000002447112231

    Patricius Flavius is your 49th great grandfather.
    Wife of Patricius Flavius is your 49th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Patricius-Flavius/6000000008630655893?through=6000000004089072249
    Curated by: Catherine (Erin) Spiceland



    Gradlon ap Conan, King of Brittany
    aka Gradlon Mawr "The Great" ap Conan, King of Brittany
    his father
    is your 49th great grandfather
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    Son of Cynan de Bretagne, Brenin o Dumnonia and Saint Dareca

    http://www.geni.com/people/Gradlon-ap-Conan/6000000002447112218?through=6000000003828196455

    Tigridia verch Calpurnius is your 49th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Tigridia-verch-Calpurnius/6000000002447112225?through=6000000002447112218



    see part 2 of 2 (below


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    Post  THEeXchanger Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:34 pm

    PART 2 OF 2

    Cynan de Bretagne, Brenin o Dumnonia
    his father
    your 50th great grandfather
    http://www.geni.com/people/Cynan-de-Bretagne/6000000000437032765?through=6000000004089079896

    Saint Dareca verch Calpurnius is your 50th great grandmother.

    The PEDIGREE of
    Dareca verch CALPURNIUS of IRELAND
    (2nd wife); sister of St. Patrick of IRELAND; mothered at least 20 Saints or Bishops; (nic CALPURNIUS)
    Born: poss. abt. 310
    CHILDREN:
    Gradlon MAWR (King) of BRITTANY ; St. Echea ; St. Lalloca ; St. Mel-Noch ; St. Rioch ; St. Munis ; Cruman ; Midgma ; St. Loman ; St. Loarn ; Cieran ; Carantog ; Magalle ; Columb ; Brychan ; Brychad ; St. Branwaladr ; Fine ; Melchu ; St. Bolca

    http://www.geni.com/people/Saint-Dareca/6000000004089079453?through=6000000002447112218
    Birth:
    circa 340
    Eiré, Lugo, Galicia, Spain
    Death:
    387 (47)
    Bretagne, France

    Calpurnius is your 51st great grandfather. (ireland)
    http://www.geni.com/people/Calpurnius/6000000004089151161?through=6000000004089079453

    Conchessa is your 51st great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Conchessa/6000000002188327899?through=6000000004089151161
    Ochbes is your 52nd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Ochbes/6000000004089086258?through=6000000002188327899
    Sister of Saint Martin, Bishop of Tours is your 52nd great grandmother
    Father of Saint Martin is your 53rd great grandfather.
    Unknown is your 53rd great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Father-of-Saint-Martin/6000000003828196455?through=6000000003828196449

    Potitus is your 52nd great grandfather. Bretagne, France
    http://www.geni.com/people/Potitus/6000000004089137964?through=6000000004089151161

    Odissus Odais is your 53rd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Odissus-Odais/6000000002188327915?through=6000000004089137964

    Connudh Cornuithe is your 54th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Connudh-Cornuithe/6000000002188327925?through=6000000002188327915

    Leobuit Luibuirne is your 55th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Leobuit-Luibuirne/6000000002188327935?through=6000000002188327925

    Meurig mab Otter is your 56th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Meurig-mab-Otter/6000000002188327945?through=6000000002188327935

    Otter mab Oiric is your 57th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Otter-mab-Oiric/6000000002188327955?through=6000000002188327945

    Oiric map Meurig is your 58th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Oiric-map-Meurig/6000000002188327965?through=6000000002188327955

    Meurig mab Oiric is your 59th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Meurig-mab-Oiric/6000000002188327975?through=6000000002188327985

    Oiric map Leo is your 60th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Oiric-map-Leo/6000000002188327985?through=6000000002188327975

    Leo map Maximus is your 61st great grandfather
    http://www.geni.com/people/Leo-map-Maximus/6000000002188327995?through=6000000002188327985

    Maxime (Maximus) is your 62nd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Maxime-Maximus/6000000019414719163?through=6000000002188327995

    Othrag is your 63rd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Othrag/6000000008177398547?through=6000000019414719163

    Encrede mac Erise is your 64th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Encrede-mac-Erise/6000000008177398552?through=6000000008177398547

    Erise mac Piliste is your 65th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Erise-mac-Piliste/6000000008177398557?through=6000000008177398552

    Piliste MacPherine is your 66th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Piliste-MacPherine/6000000008177398562?through=6000000008177398557

    Ferine mac Briotan Maoll is your 67th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Ferine-mac-Briotan-Maoll/6000000003828031654?through=6000000008177398562

    Britan Máel mac Fhearhgais is your 68th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Britan-M%C3%A1el-mac-
    Fhearhgais/6000000003828031660?through=6000000003828031654

    Fearghus Lethderg mac Neimhidh is your 69th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Fearghus-Lethderg-mahttp://www.geni.com/people/Agnoman-of-Scythia/6000000003828031684?through=6000000003828031678
    c-Neimhidh/6000000003828031666?through=6000000003828031660

    Neimhidh the Farmer is your 70th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Neimhidh-the-Farmer/6000000003828031678?through=6000000003828031666
    Macha is your 70th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Macha/6000000003828031672?through=6000000003828031678

    Agnoman of Scythia is your 71st great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Agnoman-of-Scythia/6000000003828031684?through=6000000003828031678

    Paimp is your 72nd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Paimp/6000000003828031690?through=6000000003828031684

    Tait is your 73rd great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Tait/6000000003828031696?through=6000000003828031690

    Seara is your 74th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Seara/6000000003828031702?through=6000000003828031696

    Srú Esra is your 75th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Sr%C3%BA/6000000003827409561?through=6000000003828031702

    Easrú is your 76th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Easr%C3%BA/6000000003827409534?through=6000000003827409561

    Braiment / Fraimaint is your 77th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Braiment-Fraimaint/6000000003828031708?through=6000000003827409534

    Faithechta is your 78th great grandfather.
    http://www.geni.com/people/Faithechta/6000000006290693763?through=6000000003828031708

    Magog (Irish version) is your 79th great grandfather.
    Wife of Magog is your 79th great grandmother
    Birth:
    estimated between 2565BCE and 2505BCE 
    Immediate Family:
    Husband of Wife of Magog
    Father of Bathath; Faithechta; Emoth and Jobbath
    Brother of Joham

    http://www.geni.com/people/Magog-Irish-version/6000000009440188552?through=6000000006290693763
    *****************************************************************


    Gereint ab Einudd, Lord of Meridoc
    his father
    your 51st great grandfather


    Einudd Ap Gwrddwfn, King of Wales
    his father
    your 52nd great grandfather


    Gwrddwfin ap Cwrrig
    his father
    your 53rd great grandfather


    Cwrrig Goruc Mawr ap Meirchion, King of Wales
    his father
    your 54th great grandfather


    Meirchion ap Owain, King of Wales
    his father
    your 55th great grandfather
    http://www.geni.com/people/Meirchion-ap-Owain-King-of-Wales/6000000003645788750?through=6000000002941484402

    NN verch Animadab is your 55th great grandmother.
    http://www.geni.com/people/NN-verch-Animadab/6000000002188327875?through=6000000003645788750


    Owain Eurgen ap Marius Cyllin, King of Wales
    his father
    is your 56th great grandfather
    http://www.geni.com/people/Owain-Eurgen-ap-Marius-Cyllin-King-of-Wales/6000000006775928585?through=6000000003645788750

    Eurgen . verch Lleurig or Beli is your 56th great grandmother
    http://www.geni.com/people/Eurgen-verch-Lleurig-or-Beli/6000000002941484402?through=6000000006775928585



    St. Cyllin / Marius ap Caradog, King of Britain
    his father
    your 57th great grandfather

    http://www.geni.com/people/St-Cyllin-Marius-ap-Caradog-King-of-Britain/6000000003827309556?through=6000000000977042088

    Julia, Julia Victoria verch Prasutagus of the Iceni
    is your 57th great grandmother

    http://www.geni.com/people/Julia-of-the-Iceni/6000000000977252112?through=6000000003827309556

    Prasutagus, Brenin o Iceni
    is your 58th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Prasutagus/6000000002118940751?through=6000000000977252112

    Boudicca, Boudicca, Brehines o Iceni, Queen of the Iceni
    is your 58th great grandmother.
    http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/029/1/4/Boudicca_warrior_queen_by_Mystic_Oracle.jpg[/img]
    Birth:
    circa 30
    Iceni Tribal Lands, Britannia
    Death:
    circa 62 (32)
    West Midlands, Britannia
    Immediate Family:
    Wife of Prasutagus, Brenin o Iceni
    Mother of Dau verch Prasutagus, of Icenia and Julia, of the Iceni

    http://www.geni.com/people/Boudicca-Queen-of-the-Iceni/6000000003827309569?through=6000000002118940751

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    Arvirargus ap Cunobelin, King of the Britons and the Catuvellauni
    his father
    is your 58th great grandfather.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Arvirargus-ap-Cunobelin/6000000000977042088?through=6000000003827309556

    Genuissa Claudia, Queen of Siluria is your 58th great grandmother.

    http://www.geni.com/people/Genuissa-Claudia-Queen-of-Siluria/6000000000977027128?through=6000000000977042088

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