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    United States AI Solar System (11)

    orthodoxymoron
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    Post  orthodoxymoron Sun Jun 05, 2022 10:25 am

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    Carol wrote:Love your X-Files Oxy. However the reptilians, before they went to the dark side were a luminous iridescent white with incredible angelic type wing span. Those few who have accepted Christ are reversing their condition with their wings growing again. Wonder if they will turn white as well.

    Next.. and something close to my heart are the med-beds which hopefully will be available to the public this year. We are thinking of purchasing one. May be around 20k. These med-beds will be in hospitals and eliminate the need for surgeries restoring the body to it's optimum function. We have one friend whose kidneys are non-functional and she has to give herself dialysis every 3 hours 24/7 if she wants to stay alive.

    She actually spends the majority of her time in the 5th dimension as no ordinary person could survive what she has to do to maintain her organ functions. We're envisioning a med-bed that restores organ function for her.. which they do have.

    So let's hope the Galactic Space Force Alliance is successful sooner then later in ridding the planet of the evil ones. Gene DeCode did have a video of one of the Alliance ships taking out the cabal ships as they attempt to escape the planet.

    Here are his two videos. Enjoy.

    https://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2021/06/gene-decode-shares-rare-footage-of-space-fleet-fighters-taking-out-ships-and-pictures-of-ets-and-star-wars-on-earth-2553782.html

    You really do have some of the most interesting threads on Mists. Love the photos and video clips. Awesome!
    Thank-you, Carol. Sherry Shriner spoke of 'White-Reptilians beneath the Gobi Desert'. They are supposedly the Royals with Ancient-Records and such. As you know, I am highly-distressed regarding what we know and don't know relative to what we think we know and don't know. How Do We Know?? The KJV and EGW might not be what people think they are (or are not). I am honestly thinking in terms of The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and Exercise in Nature as a Pragmatic Middle-Way in Modernity. I guess I've mostly lost my faith, being reduced to mumbling and fumbling with religious and political science-fiction within the context of The Mists of Avalon. I know you know but I mostly don't talk about that. I just read between the lines. I'm actually quite embarrassed by my internet adventure and I'm not sure how to let go of this tiger-tail and/or reptilian-tail. I might publish some of my notes, but what are the copyright rules regarding posting on an internet-forum such as the Mists?? How might permission be granted or denied?? I'm frankly thinking of walking away from the madness, and attempting to write something completely random. Regarding the Med-Beds, I don't know, but it seems reasonable for people to be more thoroughly examined and analyzed on a regular basis with state of the art allopathic and naturopathic prevention and treatment, but what are the ethical and economic implications and ramifications?? Here is something you probably already know about regarding your friend, Paola Harris.

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    Carol wrote:Thank you Oxy. Paola is a close personal friend and I help her edit a few of her books.

    As for the rest.. it seems we can't believe MSM or much of the hoopla generated by the media at any level. I was listening to Gene DeCode's recent interview where he also said that Antartica was really the north pole. Imagine that? We've been lied to our entire lives and our history is filled with fabrications. However, Gene DeCode is probably the most knowledgeable individual I've listened to and tells the truth. I think his death experience.. 30 minutes dead and sitting with God that entire time where many things were explained to him is beyond amazing. This guy is great and seems he can be trusted to share accurate intel.

    I've got links to 41 of his Dumb interviews and more. I was going to join BackStage where one can access all of Gene's Decodes.  The information presented is a treasure trove.

    As for all of the SciFi stuff... much of it is real yet distorted to fit the cabals viewpoint of what the want the masses to believe. However, Gene and some of the super soldiers did share stuff that is freaky scary. I did a regression a couple of weeks ago with a super soldier who had his mind wiped where his memories were surfacing and wanted to know what was being kept from him. Of course it included one terrifying memory with a reptilian.

    These days I generally spend reading mystery who-done-it books. Carla Neggers is a new author I recently discovered and have read 9 of her books to date.

    I just have zero tolerance for the news except from those in the know who share the truth about what's going on. Not too many of those folks around but enough to squeeze out a dabble or two of real intel.

    All of my military COMMs sources are in a black-out mode. No intel from any of them. Which means that they are busy and engaged in a variety of military operations.

    Meanwhile, we're enjoying the snow being gone, green grass, trees leafing out and warmer days. And of course there are lots of birds at the feeders and deer. Nature is awesome.

    I do enjoy your posts and unique perspectives.. and know deep in your heart that the med-beds are based on quantum alien technology sent to earth to help humanity. They are already in use and President Trump used one too when he had COVID. You too may have an opportunity to be healed in one.
    Thank-you, Carol. I don't know how to respond. I tend to put my foot in my mouth. Perhaps its because the Matrix made me do it. I tend to not be much of a conversationalist (online or in real-life). Thank-you for the research-resources on an ongoing-basis. I probably take this for granted as a research-baseline. I consider as much as I can in the Mists but I usually don't directly respond (which probably makes me seem standoffish and aloof). Ending my threads might be expedient. I've got a bunch of Ann Rule books regarding true-crime in a northwest-setting. I even emailed her many years ago, when I thought I might've encountered bank-robbers. She didn't think so, which was a relief to me. This was regarding her book, End of the Dream, regarding bank-robbers with a HUGE treehouse in Olympia, WA. I don't know what to think about Gene, so I treat it as science-fiction. In a couple of recent videos, Gene seemed to make show-hosts nervous, and they wished to not talk about certain things. I treat my own thoughts and experiences as science-fiction. I don't trust my own thoughts and experiences. When 'RA' contacted me for a few months, I had no idea who he and/or she really was. I still don't know. It's weird but I spend too-much time with accident videos. I guess it's a morbid-curiosity. The videos tend to make me face myself and think. I've recently been watching videos concerning the recent plane-crash of seven high-ranking 'cult' leaders, led by Gwen Shamblin Lara. I'm leaning toward pluralistic-education but obviously not in a university context (for me, at this late-date). Tangentially, someone should exhaustively study Sherry Shriner's stuff, but not as a believer. The agencies undoubtedly have her all figured-out but they don't brief me!! The Jesuits know what I'm talking about but they don't talk about it!! Silas might get me!! I'm considering exhaustively studying Deuteronomy, Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes regarding Ethics and Law. What Would Hyam Maccoby Say?? What Would Meredith Kline Say?? What Would Graham Maxwell Say?? What Would Michael Heiser Say?? I've been to several Whole Life Expos but I resisted becoming a part of that scene. I'm frankly wary of All-Religion and New-Age. It might be Spiritual-Quicksand. The Matrix probably gets us one way or another. God Got Me. Be careful. We're dealing with Men of God. Here's where I get my best intel (in the videos below). Regarding Disclosure, Perhaps We Should Be Careful What We Ask For. Standing on the Gas-Pedal might suddenly result in Standing on the Brake-Pedal. Consider Steven Spielberg's first movie, Duel (especially at the end). What Would David Mann Do?? Get Out of Dodge?? Notice the name on his briefcase when he wedges it against the gas-pedal with four spaces and the final 'n' covered. DAVID ****MAN. 87% of Us Might Go Completely Insane When We Learn the Real-Truth. Researchers Beware. Decades ago, I spoke with Vicky Cooper of UFO Magazine, and she privately told me she was sort of sorry she investigated UFO's. I'm definitely sorry I half-heartedly went down the rabbit-hole. Raven suggested, "The Rabbit-Hole Mostly Goes Right Up Your @$$!!"
    Carol wrote:As usual a very thought provoking post and links Oxy. Sticking with Sherry Shriner might be fun. Meanwhile, I'm sticking with Gene. What he has to say about God resonates with me. And Raven is right with what she said.

    I'm looking forward to when the world is turned right side up again. Watching all the dead people walking around is very disturbing. The ones who have already been executed and now have body doubles, clones or actors pretending to be them. Biden's visit to England is a blatant example. The queens dead, Charles and Carmella are dead. Biden's dead. Most of the other heads of state have been arrested and out of commission.  So sick of the pretense and how it's all made out to be real when it's all just a miserable facade.

    How can anything one seeks to know about be real given the ongoing pervasive misinformation which is supported by the media. Thank god, we're in with a unique group of truthers who are ahead of the curve... and know what's around the corner given what's going on with the Guardian Space Command Alliance. Being in nature and away from MSM is the best therapy one could ask for while waiting for the EVENT to occur. And knowing that we are on the Great Awakening timeline is also heartening.
    Thank-you, Carol. I guess I'm concerned about the Fate of the Soul regardless of Goodness or Badness. I'm not a big-fan of Annihilation or Burning in Hell for All-Eternity. "Life is Hell and then you Burn in Hell for All-Eternity but don't ever forget that God is Love!!" WOW!! Just WOW!! Perhaps we simply need to be educated in various regions of the Matrix (for want of a better term). I've experienced what seemed to be a particular soul in various bodies (but I'm not sure about that). Sherry Shriner repeatedly spoke of multiple President Obamas (and not just body-doubles). When Cabal Spaceships are supposedly destroyed, what happens to their souls?? As an SDA, I'm an off the charts heretic!! But still, I consider myself SDA in a special-case exploratory-manner. I'm so conservative I've become liberal. I jokingly refer to myself as a 'Renegade French Jesuit Organist'!! Honesty Should Count for Something in This Present Madness. I don't know enough about Gene to be pro or con. I simply expose myself to this and that, regardless of how confused and confounded I become. England is an interesting study (for better and worse) going way, way back. I'm a fish out of water and a thorn in the flesh within the Mists. Consider the case of Blue Roller. I've been putting this off for a long time and I'm not sure how to proceed. It has to do with the long-lost posting by Blue Roller. I don't necessarily resonate with his editorial-slant but he made me think in rather unpleasant and uncomfortable ways. I might simply do a name-search and post chronologically (with or without context).
    Carol wrote:Blue Roller had no clue as to what God is about. God is the creator. Satan or the dark side is the destroyer. What God wants is for people to spiritually evolve and help others to evolve as well. Satan is about de-evolution and death.

    God's greatest gift was freedom to choose. So to both sides of the spectrum, both sides exist to explore throughout ones life.

    At least we now know not to go to the light at the time of death, a gift of the matrix to keep one trapped in the cycle of reincarnation so that the recycled humans can be used as a food source (spiritually and physically) for the cabal, Satan's followers.

    The EVENT is an opportunity to get of the cycle of reincarnation and burst forth as a free sovereign being and bust forth into their original potential. Humans really were created in God's image with 64 genetic strands. They contain the source DNA for all living non-terrestrials. That's why the non-terrestrials come to earth to collect human DNA. They're not the source of their own genetics. Humans are. Unfortunately humans are down to one functioning DNA strand. Can you imagine the potential if all strands were activated?

    At the time of death when leaving their physical form all one has to think of is returning to source - to God so as not to be deceived by those entities controlling the matrix.

    Humans have been enslaved for who knows how long have forgotten who they are and along with their potential. They can create or manifest anything once they learn how. Can you imagine how we would be if both hemispheres of the brain were fully functional and communicating with the other half. All knowledge would be fully available and accessible with just a thought / intention to seek an answer to a question. It's all there in the field. And our souls are part of that field. So of course the real answer lies within for those who seek access to the field that already exists within.

    The questions that you ask Oxy are the questions and answers others explored. Yet did they have full access to the field or were they limited to access due to their own personal limitations and/or beliefs.

    I'm sure we can entertain ourselves with the "what if?" Yet can you even possibly imagine that in the creator's world.... all the "what ifs" exist simultaneously? If not on this timeline, in this dimension... on another timeline or dimension.

    So for every question you pose... the ultimate answer is yes. All probabilities, all possibilities exist simultaneously.
    Thank-you, Carol. Once again, I mostly post the work of others, without directly and intricately responding and/or reacting. I allow others to say what they have to say without me interrupting and talking over them. Their comments often inspire my comments. But really, my threads are mostly study-guides for the worthy to contemplate, possibly after I'm long-gone. I mostly don't deeply analyze my own threads. I'm not qualified and the process is too painful. I leave the heavy-lifting to others. I don't know what to make of Blue Roller. His posts seemed to be One Big Harangue, often with significant insights (good and bad). I'm going for a walk, but I'll be back in a couple of hours. I need to emphasize that my threads are more systemic than personal. I've modeled the good and the bad with text, comments, videos, and images. There really is a method to my madness, rather than Random Acts of Madness. Consider the Order in the Chaos. The possibilities are horrifying. I honestly fancy myself as a Scriptwriter with no jobs or prospects. It's thankless work, scorned by the ungrateful and unworthy, but don't blame me. Blame Each-Other. I just finished reading what I just posted, and I was floored!! I'll give it a rest for a while, but I won't delete it, for now. Remember, this is a collection of posts, rather than a speech!! I'm NOT endorsing it!! Still, it is my policy to provide a Tempest in a Teapot for educational purposes only!! How many people will read any of this?? Probably less than a dozen!! I'm not sure where I'll go with this. Probably nowhere. Anyway, don't take any of this personally. I'm honestly trying to create a new sort of Religious and Political Science-Fiction!! Have you EVER seen or heard ANYTHING like this in a movie-theater or on television?? This is more fun than Alex Jones!! Come-On Alex!! SMILE!! More seriously, here is a very serious video. Please remember that I employ contextual-superimposition. I do it for answers. Notice the first few minutes. Prophetic, eh?? Notice Jackie emerging late. Was that somehow significant??


    This is actually quite strange, even by my standards, as if it were some sort of glorified 'Freudian Slip.' I was honestly thinking about Blue Roller's inflammatory posting for the last few months without doing anything about it until now. Was this a 'Manchurian Phenomenon'?? I had a stroke approximately two-years ago, yet I mostly recovered, still with significant residual difficulties. Perhaps this is a glitch in the Matrix. Who Knows?? I'll probably continue with that project but I find it somewhat suspect, even if I'm the one seemingly causing a wound to be reopened. I've suggested that I might've been messed-with for decades, with increasing severity. Perhaps this was a subconscious cry for help. Perhaps it was just bad-timing. My contrarian tendencies might ultimately be indicative of an undetectable neurotoxicological-condition with a supernatural-component. I continue to say I'm fine even though I obviously am not. Some of you might need to do double-duty regarding analyzing my posting but researchers beware. This is not for the general-public or for those with unstable-dispositions. I continue to think in terms of 'Religious and Political Science-Fiction'. Properly edited, this might result in a fascinating finished-product. Unfortunately, this might result in stepping on everyone's toes (including my own). What if this is 'Archon-Influenced Artificial-Intelligence?? Tangentially, I've been listening to Jeffrey Daugherty for couple of years but recently his YouTube account was terminated. He still posts on other platforms, but I haven't been watching and listening. His somewhat shrill approach reminds me of Blue Roller. Might there be a connection?? Is there a Sherry Shriner connection?? What if this is all interrelated?? What about the inflammatory Pro-Republican and Anti-Democrat material in the Mists?? I mostly take this sort of thing in stride, but I keep thinking I need to go more mainstream (even if this implies a Fake-News component)!! The video below is highly upsetting yet what if crisis-material is somehow related to the totality of the Mists?? What if reality is more startling and troubling than science-fiction and horror-movies?? What if both Trump and Biden have been highly compromised and tampered-with??
    Carol wrote:Oxy, I'm sorry about your stroke. It's scary when something like that happens and recovery is often challenging. Perhaps it's time to give yourself credit for doing such an amazing job of keeping your interesting thread going.

    As for Blue Roller.. one thing that I'm sensitive to is the energy coming from what people write. Not what they write... the emotional energy that is embedded within the texts. I don't read Blue Roller. I'll skim a few sentences... speed read and picked up how toxic the energy is. Blue Roller is on a rant. He comes across as a tortured soul. Someone experiencing deep emotional pain. His energy toxic as he has yet to reconciled deep conflicting emotions or enter into a place of inner peace. It's helpful to remember that even in the midst of a tornado there exists the eye of the storm - a place of inner stillness. Until one taps into that center, it's easy to be tossed about by conflicting emotions.

    I don't find your energy toxic. Never have. You do tend to post a variety of things of interest to you. Some I can dive into and some repels me. Pushes me away. That's because I made a decision not to feed the beast or allow that type of energy to have access.

    In working toward the 5th dimension frequency or higher, the primary objective is to set what is negative aside, don't indulge in it with thought or actions. I no longer watch movies I used to enjoy knowing actors and actresses are pedophiles. There is no enjoyment in viewing something a pedophile puts out as entertainment. Its energy is repulsive. Unfortunately the entertainment industry has become one of spiritual exploitation.

    The goal is not to be deceived and continue to move into alignment with the Christ energy of compassion.

    One must choose which road to take.

    I recall back in my early 20s thinking about reincarnation and how to get off the cycle of rebirth. I've thought about this for many years exploring many spiritual paths. And only recently.. clarity exists. Yet the issue of life in physical from or spiritual form also has many sides. Much to consider.

    The dark side seeks to exploits ones spirituality to exist. It feeds off the negative. The light just keeps moving closer to the Throne of God as it feed off of the creator.

    It really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. Does it? What matters is what you think. How you wish manifest your god given gifts. Have you stopped to consider what they are? Personally I find you an exceptionally interesting person.

    Meanwhile, I've been dithering back and forth on the merits of physical form (sans reincarnation if one can really be regenerated with the med-beds) or spiritual form. As long as one is in service to others they could continue to live on having multiple types of experiences. In the past I never really had a desire to live forever in a physical body given the aging process. Moving back into spirit seemed a wonderful reward for enduring a variety of physical and emotional challenges. And not wanting to become trapped in the reincarnation matrix controlled by the cabal dark side wasn't all that appealing either.

    What to choose? What options are available? Obviously unlimited.  Perhaps each individual does the best with what options they are aware of in a limited capacity. Yet if options truly were unlimited... then what would one want for oneself?

    I learn a lot by listening to Gene DeCode and he has open up endless vistas for me to consider. I appreciate his perspective and knowledge.

    An attitude of gratitude and willingness to enjoy each day for what it offers goes a long way to experiencing inner peace.

    I've always enjoyed the variety of perspectives and questions you present. Your energy triggers places within that put me to task of inner exploration. I thank you for that friend.
    Thank-you, Carol. I'm tired tonight, but I'll post something which I might expand upon in a day or two. I might even condense the last dozen posts into one, without the Blue Roller material. I keep sensing I'm dealing with beings who are different than humans (as we know them to be). I know I'm not even close to getting the whole-story. I see though a glass, darkly. I almost need to just sample this and that without trying to be a Big Man on Campus, and without attempting to figure everyone and everything out and without creating simple statements to make everything OK (or something to that effect). I might not be able to even do my thread writing much longer. I'd be a disaster in a debate. Retreating into a 600 square-foot office-apartment while vegetating upon the impossible might be as good as can be expected from me at this point. Blue Roller almost seemed to be a deposed somebody who had seen it all, done it all, and become quite jaded, cynical, and bitter. I've purposely sheltered myself from a lot of crap, but what would I think, say, and do in a variety of contexts?? What if I'm a somewhat-reformed ancient-badass?? Context, Absolute-Morality, and Situation-Ethics are extremely important. I'll probably continue my unmarketable speculation and posturing within the Mists or elsewhere. I'm crude, rude, socially-unacceptable and politically-incorrect. I don't know what's really going-on in this solar system, regardless who I might've been (or not been) for thousands of years. I can't properly deal with my own stuff in the Mists. I'm a hypocrite and underachiever. I doubt I'll experience much peace. Just the opposite seems to be my fate (by accident and/or design). I think this thing is much nastier than most of us can imagine. Attempting to be a standoffish Knight in Shining Armor might be an extremely bad idea. Anyway, I'm rambling and exhausted. Now I'm going to put myself to sleep with an airplane-crash video. I wish I were kidding. At some point, the situation gets out of control. Going-Around and/or Diverting to Another Airport might be a splendid idea. Fiddling with the Instruments While the Plane Crashes and Burns might be a horrific idea. I'm basically attempting to land at an alternative airport (so to speak). There are too-many factors which just don't add-up. The whole-thing stinks. Whoop-Whoop!! Pull-Up!! Whoop-Whoop!! Pull-Up!! Too-Low!! Terrain!! Too-Low!! Terrain!! Just letting things go, hoping it will somehow be OK is probably a bad-idea. Faith, Hope, and Love are SO Overrated!! Research is My Religion!! Possibility-Thinking Trumps Positive-Thinking and Self-Esteem!!
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Someone might find these videos interesting (to say the least)!! I've watched various versions of this incident throughout the years but these videos take the cake!! Following are video comments: GEEZ! He pushed the aircraft as the description states BUT, WHAT IT DOESN'T STATE.... BECAUSE Mr. Russell Started the engine BEFORE PUSHING BACK....when he disconnected the tow bar and backed the tractor....THE AIRCRAFT STARTED MOVING ON IT'S OWN . Richard runs up to OPEN the forward door, hops in WITH THE AIRCRAFT MOVING,  closes the forward entry door and begins the final moments of his life! SO GLAD nobody else was killed! From start to finish just an amazing story. The balls and competence to start, push out then take off and fly that plane by himself with no real life previous practice. Not saying it was ANYWHERE close to right. Thankfully no one else got hurt and/or killed. Every other person in/on this audio track is level headed, sincere and seems to be working as well as can expected considering the situation. If he could have landed that plane undamaged after barrel rolling it around I think it would have made for interesting times in the aftermath. Sky King,...Damn. I love the ground controller... his day just went to shcrap, workload radically increases, stays calm cool and collected enough to even joke with a pilot about "you're not gonna hijack that plane are you?"
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    Carol wrote:Good morning. I like the last one the best with the alien craft. Too cute. Do you realize that we've been chatting back and forth for 11 years now on Mists. On one hand it doesn't seem like that much time at all. I just don't know where it all went as it seems to be flowing by like a fast running rapid river down in the Arizona Grand Canyon gorge. We went river rafting down there for a week back in 1983. I was stung by a very large scorpion and also ended up with heat stroke. I sat in a creek thinking this was a good place to die. Of course the zip lining through the tropical jungle on Big Island in 2017 almost did me in as well. Half way through I was laying down on the trail staring up through the trees at the blue sky thinking the same thing. Didn't realize the type of heart condition I had at the time. Keep in mind that I'm afraid of heights and almost ripped my arm out in attempts to slow down when coming to the end where the spotter was to catch me. That was my last "physical" adventure. Now the swinging I do is from a net swing hammock hanging from the beam in the cabin. Much safer and more relaxing.

    My younger sister died last October from a stroke. It was unexpected and quite a shock. I'm still having difficultly is thinking of her as gone. I do miss her wacky sense of humor. I did have an ongoing premonition for about 3 months that I kept discounting. Odd how we know what's going on subconsciously yet our conscious mind keeps an effort to deceive and trick us. Perhaps it's just a self-defense mechanism when we're heading into an emotionally overwhelming state of knowing. Shock, denial, grief, loss.. so odd how it all fits together floating around like bubbles floating through the air.

    Several of your attributes on Mists are your humility, quest for making sense of the unknown and how polite you are. You're not really one for the ordinary peanut butter and jelly type of life. Definitely a scribe and very willing to be vulnerable sharing your innermost quandaries.  Approachable and yet you leave so many open-ended questions allow others to explore their own inner musings. It's always amazed me how willing you are to travel the road less traveled in the musings you share.

    Your attempts to reconcile is possible with some ADAM or MDA.. a little something that helps strips away the facade so that one can see beyond to where all things are connected.

    Personally I'm looking forward to where we all get to experience the Great Awakening. A God Gift that allows us to experience truth and how we're all connected.

    I did make some HCQ yesterday with lemons and grapefruit. It taste pretty good. We put it into ice cube trays for the individual doses and will put some of the mason jars in the freezer.

    Well I'm jumping around a bit and have some things to do. Hope you're feeling better today. The heart stuff does tend to leave one tired. The med beds are looking better and better these days. PAX
    Thank-you, Carol. I'm sorry about your sister. What if strokes and various neurological conditions are becoming more prevalent?? What if this has something to do with COVID?? What if COVID is a cover-story for something much more dangerous and sinister?? That scorpion sting in a hostile environment is horrifying. Your Hawaii tribulation was terrifying. I happened upon a rattlesnake when I was probably 5 years-old. I was just a couple of feet away from the coiled-creature when my father noticed my plight and pulled me away from it!! If it had struck me, I'm sure I would've died at the age of five. I hate to say it, but it might've saved everyone a lot of time, money, and trouble. I am profoundly troubled by the misery, pain, confusion, and suffering in the world. Bart Ehrman became an atheist because of suffering-issues. Theodicy and Eschatology deeply trouble me. Who made scorpions and rattlesnakes?? Who causes and/or permits suffering?? These past eleven years are not what I would have imagined eleven years ago. I am deeply troubled and embarrassed. There seems to be no resolution or satisfaction. Judeo-Christianity and New-Age seem to mock the longings of the sin-sick soul (or something to that effect). Is it coincidental that your sister had a stroke and that you have a heart-condition?? I've had open-heart surgery, atrial-ventricular fibrillation, neurological and cognitive symptoms (for starters). I suspect a lifelong neurotoxin, supernatural, electronic, and past-life aspect to this, but what do I know?? The Matrix at Work?? I need to sleep a bit before work, but I'll properly deal with all of your recent comments on my days off. When I'm miserable and befuddled, its difficult to properly respond to intelligent conversation. I try, but it just isn't working for me. I'm not sure if I'm humble or arrogant. I might be self-centered, which involves a superiority and inferiority complex (simultaneously). Some of this involves modeling but some of it is real. The alternative prevention and treatment of COVID (whatever it really is) is exemplary. Those in the know KNOW but We the Peons seem to be at the mercy of our controllers. We seem to be deceived and bullied a lot. What is one to do?? What Would Helena Blavatsky Say??

    Sorry about the videos. They seem to be a troubling contextual-collection as a mental and spiritual exercise (or something to that effect). I slept for a while, so I'm more rested, but I need to go back to sleep for an hour or two. Anyway, I was thinking about your concern to avoid negativity, and to be positive, but a lot of your posting involves a lot of negative, upsetting, and disruptive material (even though you mostly post the work of others in this regard). I don't wish to be negative, yet I find myself immersed in a negative and upsetting context. How did this happen?? The Bible, Religious-History, American-History, and Current-Events are extremely-problematic. What's Going On Here?? How Many People Read the Federalist Papers and Anti-Federalist Papers (straight-through, over and over)?? What Are the Religious and Political Implications and Ramifications?? Must the Secular Become Sacred and the Sacred Become Secular?? The last four-years have involved a lot of anger. The current regime seems to involve a sock-puppet mascot-spokesperson (or something to that effect). A prominent 9/11 truther privately told me (around 2008) that Presidents would become worse and worse. Now, it seems as if conservatism is becoming somewhat militaristic (with the best of intentions, of course). What if a One Solar System Secret-Government has existed for thousands (or even millions) of years?? If so, what if this hypothetical governance-modality is fundamentally Ancient Artificial-Intelligence in nature?? What is my Role in the Rabbit-Hole?? I suspect that you know, but I beat around the burning-bush. I suspect that Linda Moulton Howe knows. Sherry Shriner seemed to know (in a somewhat crackpot manner). Individuals of Interest which I've directly encountered seemed to know. But no-one has openly spilled the beans (so to speak). Perhaps I should expand my canon to The Federalist Papers, The Anti-Federalist Papers, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and Exercise in Nature.


    Carol wrote:Hmm... for myself I existed within the world of crisis mode for a number of years. Relationship, health, working with others and their crisis. There is nothing wrong with being in a survival mode as one learns how to dive deep into their own psyche and hopefully discover and/or develop new coping skills. I don't regret those years. I learned a lot. And there were many days when the physical pain was so severe all I could do was just lay paralyzed, unmoving so as not to create more pain. All nerve endings were inflamed.. even the surface of my skin. In the midst of pain I discovered that inner place of stillness where gratitude exists. I was happy I had a roof over my head. A comfortable bed to sleep in. Sheltered from the rain and wind. I discovered how to be happy by going inward. Although the scorpion sting was one of the worst experiences and it took months for the nerve endings to regrow... they did regrow. The herniated neck discs did heal and I was forced by physical circumstances to deal with both pain and emotional survival. Did I claw my way to inner peace? Nope. It was always there hanging out or in - as a core component of spirit.

    Probably the most profound experience was almost drowning at around age 6 where I was presented a choice to continue to exit this life. Personally I think choosing a human life is courageous given all that exists. We're just here for experiences so that our souls/spirit can continue to develop into compassionate beings.

    I recall in San Francisco I would watch the people walk by and think about their different and unique lives. How vast their various experiences reached out and all of the other lives that each life touched. All connected when it comes to consciousness and consequences... yet each life appearing separate and apart.

    As for the heart issues.. runs in the family. We all had issues of one sort or another. My dad had open heart surgery. Younger brother as well. I just never expected my younger sister to die of a stroke.

    I also post health info. Yet it's true that what is unfolding politically and spiritually when it comes to catching my attention. I just want to see the world right side up and those who are corrupt, who seek to exploit others reap justice.

    Since where we live is paradise on earth it helps provide a balance. I really don't enjoy being around people all that much unless they're family. Being a self-impose hermit is peaceful. Never boring.

    If I want to liven things up I just read your threads. hahaha
    lol!
    Thank-you, Carol. I don't know what to say about the pain and medical issues. I tend to not talk about such things, but oddly, I tend to expose myself to highly-upsetting internet-content. I seem to have double (or triple) standards. I think I might care so much that I shut-down (or even go a bit crazy). I'll need to review the entirety of the posts on this page for a few days. Again, I don't know how to proceed. I don't know who I really am, or who the Mists forum-members really are. I've purposefully and methodically avoided knowing who anyone really is. My threads are issue and concept oriented (in a very tentative manner). The descriptions of pain are sad and disillusioning. My father had severe chronic back-pain for years. Somewhat tangentially, I remember an Episcopal rector recalling how nice and courteous people were in New York City just after 9/11. I spoke with him after church regarding that phenomenon. Years before that, I asked a Christian psychology professor, "Do we need to go to Hell before we can go to Heaven??" He brushed it off with a curt, "No." But he was sort of a jerk. There's nothing quite like 'Christian-Love'. Oxymoron or Wave of the Future?? I've been vaguely modeling the Matrix and Royalty as the vulgar-commoner I truly am, but I do the best I can. Most people really don't like me when I start asking questions and when I start getting too-clever. I spent a significant amount of time walking the streets of San Francisco, watching people and wondering what life was all about. Once, a clown mocked people as they walked, seemingly able to see their inner-selves as he walked next to them. He did that to me in an alarming and disarming manner. I once conversed with a prominent psychiatrist, in his home overlooking San Francisco, regarding harsh-religion. Take another look at the 1972 movie What's Up Doc? Artificial-Intelligence?? What Would Dr. Who Do?? Anyway, my medical insurance is suggesting that my recent surgery might not be covered, which would result in tens of thousands of dollars of out of pocket medical expenses, so I'm a little down in the mouth right now. I'll do some more posting when I'm in a better state of mind. The fun never ends, and it just gets more and more ridiculous. Unfortunately, I don't think we've seen anything yet. I SO Hope I'm Wrong. Hope Springs Eternal. Do I have a Galactic Sense of Humor?? Or am I just a Scoffer at the End of Time?? I almost forgot. Consider Charles Spurgeon, the 19th century preacher who had chronic-pain (especially near the end of his life) which seemed to propel him to amazing levels of understanding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Spurgeon

    Consider reading Luke, Acts to Jude, Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations (just to see where that leads). This might need to occur with a pastoral-scholarly dynamic-equilibrium and hermeneutic-neutrality for completely-ignorant fools with a god-complex. I wish to continue to make it clear that I am incredibly miserable and hamstrung, and its getting MUCH Worse. I'm beginning to suspect that somehow the Hypothetical Ancient-Matrix cracks-down on ALL Threats (Good and Bad) as a Harsh Governance Modality. The Messianic and/or Melchizedekian Concept might reach far-beyond the Historical-Jesus (as found in the Gospels). This thing might be much different and worse than we think. Consider the Discipline of Scripture in Luke, Acts to Jude, Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes (for starters). Dr. Graham Maxwell spoke of the Larger-View. I enjoyed his books, recordings, and Sabbath-School Classes but I kept getting the sinking-feeling that there was a Larger-View of a Larger-View lurking in the shadows. When we see past the Cover-Stories we might NOT like the Real-Deal. Decades ago, I noticed some very grim-looking high-profile elite-theologians, and I wasn't sure I wanted to know what they knew. Still, I suspect we need to labor onward and upward, for better or worse, till death do us part. Will most of us Stand Before a Holy God Without a Mediator?? Stop, my friend, as you pass by. As you are now, so once was I. As I am now, you will surely be. So prepare yourselves to follow me.





    Carol wrote:I hope you get the medical issues straightened out Oxy. Irrespective of what's going on that is a bill you will never have to pay out-of-pocket, so try not to stress too much over it.

    You ask interesting questions that require people to think about things from a variety of perspectives. You have a lot of different types of info to draw from and cross compare.

    I think you're on target about not seeing anything yet. Just watched another Gene DeCode video with clips of the weather war in China, the CCP kidnapping college students, China's attempt to nuke Oahu and more. Yet none of this info is in MSM. So in the truest sense we're not likely. Trump won't be back until WWIII is over. Because we are in WWIII to get rid of the cabal on a global scale. Gene also had maps of where other GUMBs were being taken out and those cabal ships were also being taken out when the attempt to leave the planet. HUGE stuff... lots of stuff. Trump did meet with Putin on June 10th in Europe.. so much stuff going on behind the scenes.

    Gene did mentioned that the best timing for things to switch over to the Republic would be on the Sept/Oct timeline. Once that happens NESARA/GESARA will come into play. It will a major financial jubilee for many.
    What if the Matrix-Mediatrix and/or Goddess of This World have-been (and are) Multiple-Personality Matrix-Pawns?? "Legion, for We Are Many!!"?? What is the True-Nature of the Ancient-Anunnaki Supercomputer-Matrix?? Evil-Neutrality?? This thing might be MUCH Worse than we can imagine. Contrast Matthew 4 and 28. Consider 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. Sherry Shriner referred to the Apostle Paul as "Satan's Pawn." In her 2016 book, Interview with the Devil, Sherry seemed to be living what she had written. At some point, I'll probably continue with my Blue Roller download, but what if this is indicative of Artificial-Intelligence Bio-Robotics?? What Would Paul Benjamin Say?? I might need to re-post that. The Jesuits Know What I'm Talking About but They Don't Talk About It. What Would Malachi Martin Say?? I Discussed Hostage to the Devil with 'RA'. 'He' Warned Me that Reading It Often Results in Demonic-Possession. Honest. What Would Corrado Balducci Say?? What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say?? Consider reading Acts of the Apostles (EGW) and Volume 6 (Acts to Ephesians) of the SDA Bible Commentary. What If What God Said in the Old Testament was More Important Than What Jesus Said in the New Testament?? What Would Graham Maxwell Say?? This stuff might be an unimaginable Can of Worms.
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    Don't Be Frightened!! We Mean No Harm!! This is uncharted territory, and I'm not sure where this is going. Consider watching the old (1983-85) and new (2009-11) versions of the 'V' series. I've suggested that a third version of 'V' might be quite interesting in light of how fast things have transpired in 2011 to 2021. The earlier versions were somewhat prophetic. What Would Anna, Erica, and Chad Say?? I've recently suggested that 'V' might have more of an Artificial-Intelligence aspect than a Reptilian component. Consider the 'V' Healing-Centers. What if the 19th century was humanity's last-chance?? What if the 20th century was the beginning of the end?? What if the end is near in the 21st century?? Consider The United States of the Solar System in the 22nd century!!

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    Carol wrote:Hoped the rant post released some stress. Similar to popping a boil. Just let it ooze all out.

    I did think the series V had a lot of truth in it about some of the negative non-terrestrials. Yet we all know with a variety of species (human and non-terrestrials) one can expect the good, the not so good and the exceptionally bad. Those that wish to enslave humanity and use humans as a food source are in the exceptionally bad category. I tend to learn toward those who wish to free humanity from enslavement and focus of spiritual evolution.

    Gene Decode mentioned something rather interesting as to needing a bit of the darkness to dwell within so that we develop a sense of guilt.. know when we're off the mark, learn the difference between right and wrong. Never did think of it that way before. It was in one of his recent interviews.

    Possibly in this interview.. but not sure:

    Gene Decode - Pearl Harbor Intel: Attempted Nuclear Strike From CCP Thwarted! - Video - Monday, June 14, 2021

    https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2021/06/gene-decode-pearl-harbor-intel-attempted-nuclear-strike-from-ccp-thwarted-must-video-3584090.html


    Anyway, my dear friend who caught the flu two years ago and ended up in renal failure called yesterday. She's the one who has to give herself peritoneal dialysis  every 3 hours 24/7. She had been in the hospital with a combination of pneumonia and infection. Her doc told her that now she needed a defibrillator implantation. She was not happy as she is tiny, 109 lbs, which means she can no longer drive. All of her medical problems have been an ongoing challenge the often staff at the hospitals are just incompetent. We put her on several prayer lists. One with the Buddhist monks and another that has about 4-6 thousand people on it. She's now too weak to do much walking and has one of those little motorized cart/cars to get around. She's decided she wants to make short videos with her dog, Omar, dressed up in a motor cycle leather jacket with helmet sitting in the basket on her riding her cart driving into a biker's bar to chat up the guys. Omar is a Maltese.. also tiny.

    And this is the woman who trained for the Olympics with her horse. Lots of determination, good spirits, good sense of humor and discipline. She's also a fitness trainer. Her medical condition is so sad.

    I think she's afraid of the upcoming heart surgery but doesn't feel that she has a choice as she wants to get back on the list for a kidney donation. The hospital stole her last donated kidney and gave it to someone else. Bloody outrageous.

    I was sharing with her what Gene DeCode said about the throne of god being located in the midst of the Central Sun in the Andromeda Galaxy just in case she discovers herself sans physical form and decides to make a quick exit. And not to be fooled by the matrix ET guardians or go into the light (trap) unless she wants to be recycle/reincarnation for the next 25k years.

    Her earlier life experiences were similar to Simon Parkes along the lines of being taken by the Mantis at a young age. Her mental abilities are remarkable.

    So she is one of the few individuals where we can chat about med-beds or if we what to spend the next 800 years getting up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night, or would it be better to just hang out in our spiritual body and dwell in the Andromeda Galaxy. Or would it be more fun to get to a stage where transfiguration would be more appealing, along with some inter-galactic traveling. After all, the possibilities are endless.

    We tend to entertain ourselves along the lines of exploring new possible creative endeavors.

    So that's it for a bit. Thanks for the videos to view. Nice variety.
    Carol wrote:Hmm?

    Gene DeCode said that we have the original 64 strands of DNA (the junk DNA is not junk and only waiting to be activated). He mentioned that we/humankind were down to one active strand. Now if one can imagine everything going against humankind (toxic food, toxic air, toxic water, toxic injections, toxic government and the pedophile Satanic reptilians/cabal control agenda along with AI, et al... ), one can see that the human spirit may be burdened, yet in many areas around the world still pushes forward with creativity, curiosity and a desire/drive to unite with Source. In the end, God wins.

    As for the bombing of Sol, that was beyond shocking. Totally unbelievable yet another example of how the cabal is out to destroy our solar system and humankind. What I didn't see in that video was a date of when this happened.

    A key element that most of humankind is completely unaware of is how the matrix is set up to recycle souls for their own agenda. For years in studying Eastern/Yogi philosophies were discourses on reincarnation and only how a few Masters had developed spiritual bridge ways to escape the cycle of rebirth.

    Reincarnation and the Self Theme in The Bhagavad Gita ...The more sattva composes a body, the closer the eternal self occupying that body gets to reincarnation. This higher, “supreme self” is pure, free from sensory pleasures.

    In the Bhagavad Gita, human beings—and all worldly creatures—have two components, which are variously described as matter and mind, the body and the eternal self (atman), or the “sacred ground” and that which knows the sacred ground. An eternal self sheds various bodies but in fact remains unchanged, as this absolute component is born from Krishna (as a conduit for Vishnu) and destined to return to him after completing the cycle of reincarnation known as samsara. Krishna shows Arjuna that humans should aim precisely to advance their souls along this cycle by shedding their attachment to the gunas (the constituent parts of matter that bind this soul to various bodies) and reincarnating into progressively holier bodies until they transcend reincarnation altogether and are reincorporated into absolute being.

    Krishna explains that all beings are the union of an eternal self and a body. The body, which he also calls the “sacred ground” of knowledge, involves the senses, desires, self-awareness, pleasure, and even thought. It is a mere vessel, which is why Krishna sees nothing wrong with Arjuna killing his family members in accordance with his dharma. All matter, including bodies, is composed of three material forces called gunas: sattva, which brings joy and wisdom; rajas, which brings passion and greed; and tamas, which brings confusion, laziness, and neglect. The more sattva composes a body, the closer the eternal self occupying that body gets to reincarnation. This higher, “supreme self” is pure, free from sensory pleasures and desire, averse to a “sense of ‘mine,’” and eternal—it approximates the Western notion of an immortal soul.

    In reincarnation, the eternal self continues from body to body unchanged, carrying its past attachment to gunas with it. By entering different bodies, the eternal self partakes in the gunas, although it is not composed of them. One is only reborn at all because the eternal self clings to various gunas from past lives; Krishna compares the way the eternal self sheds bodies to the way people shed old clothing. Krishna governs reincarnation, placing those who lived demonically in demonic wombs and offering the wise progressively purer bodies as they move toward enlightenment—for instance, he suggests that someone dedicated to yoga can be reborn in a family of yoga practitioners, which would offer them a better opportunity to practice yoga in the next life and move closer still to the divine. As a result of reincarnation, one need not achieve enlightenment in one’s present life to be rewarded for their devotion to God; rather, one can move progressively closer to him, finding a purer body in each new cycle of life.

    By living well and eventually achieving this divine purity, a soul eventually supersedes reincarnation altogether: it becomes liberated from any material body and moves entirely outside the cycle of death and rebirth to join Krishna in an “imperishable place” beyond life and death. Once one is purified of rajas and tamas (the lower gunas), the self eventually dissolves into pure Brahman, losing all sense of individuality. According to Krishna, this dissolution brings endless pleasure and the cessation of consciousness, allowing the soul to overcome all dualities. Notably, this transcendence is desirable because it follows logically from basic features of the Gita’s worldview—namely, the nonidentity between the true self and the body, the ephemerality of such bodies, and the inevitability of destruction and death—rather than because it is “good” in any conventional moral sense. Instead, pursuing the good—which includes embodying virtues like patience and humility—is a mere means to these ultimate truths. Krishna uses this promise of transcendence through virtue to persuade Arjuna to return to battle. At the beginning of the Gita, Arjuna worries that killing his family will doom his ancestors to fall from heaven, but Krishna convinces him that fighting actually offers his own only chance at heaven (even if he dies, he will be reincarnated in a superior body).

    By centering reincarnation and the promise of eventual transcendence, Krishna shows Arjuna—and other wavering mortals—that they stand to become divine themselves if they learn to live morally. Since the Gita, this belief in reincarnation and its ultimate transcendence through moral ways of life has remained a staple of Hindu religious tradition. Regardless of one’s present ethical composition, there is always something to be gained by turning to the divine and ridding oneself of the vicious lower gunas, even if doing so only promises to move the soul one step closer to transcendence.


    So I've been reading and studying this for a good 50 years and only now am coming to another level of understanding as a result of the information Gene DeCode has been sharing. With Sant Mat (the path of the Saints) one spends years in medication focusing on repetitions of the holy names of entities in charge of higher dimensions building spiritual bridge ways to these realms as a way to by-pass the cycle of reincarnation. One has to learn how to let go of attachments (addictions, emotions, food, relationships with things and others, etc.) in order to spiritually ascend.

    Yet I know from personal experience along with the spiritual experiences share by others that one can also ascend by grace. A desire along with a commitment to be connected to source is another spiritual bridge way where one can have momentarily connections that completely by-pass the matrix.

    Yet there is a quandary. The matrix is pervasive - especially with electronics available to so many and the AI addictions that develop between the human brain and electronic media. Most people upon passing are greeted by matrix representatives that pose as ones relatives or religious figures. Going into the light is to go into the matrix jail cell holder until it's time to be recycled via reincarnation. The cabal feeds off of humanities spiritual essence, so that they can survive.

    What is a soul to do when it crosses over so as to not get caught up, tricked or trapped within the matrix?

    Good question.

    I can't even begin to explain how many years it has taken me to even get this far in understanding a reality that is so far outside of the mainstream "normal/abnormal" thought process. Different remote viewers did provide clues. The movie, the Matrix was a mega clue. Various spiritual practices and philosophies offered insights. Yet, Gene DeCode was the one who hit the ball out of the ball park when he talked about the throne of God being located in the Andromeda Galaxy which he discovered during his 30 minute death experience.


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    Simon Parkes also offered info regarding what to do upon passing and that was to just say to oneself that they want to return to Source.

    So it would seem if one wishes to escape the Matrix, along with the cycle of death and rebirth, one has to transcend attachment to the human condition and focus on returning to Source, the Throne of God located in the Central Sun at the heart of the Andromeda Galaxy.

    Now Gene DeCode did have this opportunity to remain with God but decided that he wished to serve humanity and help them spiritually ascend. So he requested that he return to the physical form so that he may continue his selfless service. He said that God had to return him as his vibrational signature no longer existed in human form since his body was dead.  His details on what happened are amazing. So he's back doing his spiritual work - meanwhile, also dealing with Morgellons disease.

    He also discussed the EVENT, which is a God spiritual awakening that is to occur soon. I suspect our Sun is involved and also the Central Sun located in the Andromeda Galaxy. A pulse will be generated that will travel through space affecting everything in its path. Not sure when this is to happen, but nothing can stop it. Of course that wouldn't stop the cabal from trying and might be the reason for our Sun being bombed.  Whose to know how this will all play out.

    And whose to know how many will die with the cabals Agenda 21 game plan in play. At least we have help from the non-terrestrials who have gathered in our solar system and are working toward taking down the cabal reptilian non-terrestrials.
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    WRITTEN BY DR MICHAEL SALLA ON JUNE 26, 2021.
    POSTED IN FEATURED, GALACTIC DIPLOMACY

    In December 2020, the father of Israel’s space program, Professor Haim Eshed, created an international media frenzy when he described President Donald Trump communicating with an alliance of extraterrestrial races called the Galactic Federation. Eshed said Trump wanted to disclose the truth about alien life, but the Galactic Federation replied that humanity wasn’t yet ready. Eshed’s impeccable scientific credentials and intimate knowledge of classified space programs meant that his comments about a Galactic Federation monitoring human affairs had to be taken seriously and could not be easily dismissed.

    This raised a host of questions about whether such an extraterrestrial organization truly existed and was poised to openly intervene in human affairs, as Eshed claimed. Even more importantly, how did Eshed’s ‘Galactic Federation’ relate to previous claims by different researchers, insiders, contactees, etc., dating back several decades, concerning the activities of different interplanetary organizations intervening in human affairs or playing a role in the genetic engineering of humanity.

    In this two part series of articles, I plan to discuss five interplanetary organizations that have been described by different insiders and contactees that are relevant to any discussion of a Galactic Federation. Three of them can be easily confused as their membership, functions, and activities can overlap but nevertheless have significant differences. Two other interplanetary organizations are often cited as antagonists to the Galactic Federation and are therefore easier to identify.

    To begin this series, I will open with the efforts of Dr. Courtney Brown, Director of the Farsight Institute, to answer some of these key questions raised by Professor Eshed’s comments over the existence and activities of a Galactic Federation.

    Dr. Brown organized a team of five remote viewers to gather intelligence on the Galactic Federation in multiple sessions conducted and publicly released in February 2021. He  explained his rationale for the remote viewing session as follows:

    "In quite a number of projects here at Farsight, the words “Galactic Federation of Worlds” have been used to reference a group of planetary civilizations that seem to be supportive of humanity and opposed to the influence of other groups and species that appear hostile to humanity. Well, now it is time to find out more about what those words mean.

    "Exactly what is the Galactic Federation of Worlds? Or perhaps, who are they? Are they one species, or a group of species and civilizations, sort of like a United Nations of the galaxy? Do they have meetings? Do they work together on projects, such as a project that may involve Earth and us humans? Are they a diverse group with diverse interests, or are they all of one mind?

    "And importantly, if they really do desire to help humanity in its hour of need within the context of a galaxy that contains a significant number of threatening or hostile forces, can the Galactic Federation of Worlds really do something helpful? What are its resources? Moreover, does it really need Earth humans to step up to the plate in order to help us out, or is it strong enough to help us out regardless of what we humans do?"

    The results of the remote viewing sessions yielded many valuable insights into the existence of a ‘Galactic Federation of Worlds’, and other questions raised by Dr. Brown. This was particularly the case with understanding the Federation’s command structure, its internal policy debates over the extent to which it should intervene in human affairs, how its intervention was part of a “temporal war” over the Earth’s future, and what private individuals can do to support the Federation’s efforts to assist our planet’s evolution in a positive direction.

    As with previous remote viewing sessions conducted by the Farsight Institute, the sessions were held under blind conditions, and the participants were only told to focus on two targets presented to them in sequential order. No details of each target were given in order not to frontload the remote viewers’ own personal views and biases into their observations.

    The two targets for the remote reviewing sessions were:

    "Target 1: The headquarter of the Galactic Federation of Worlds / The most relevant meeting of the GFW dealing with the subject of Earth and humanity.

    "Target 2: The command ship for the GFW responsible for Earth now and its commander."

    Each of the remote viewers reports on the two targets was remarkably consistent in their overall observations even though details varied from case to case. As far as both targets were concerned, there were several notable observations, among which were:


    • The Galactic Federation of Worlds (GFW) is a large and diverse body holding many viewpoints about how to deal with humanity.
    • There were members of the GFW who were opposed to further intervening in human affairs.
    • The enemy of the GFW, powerful rival extraterrestrial coalitions, had a tight grip over humanity and would not be easy to displace.
    • There were significant armed conflicts between the GFW and its rivals over the Earth, and this had placed great stress of the Federation’s military commander.
    • If the GFW stopped its operations, there would be significant planet-wide destruction and Earth would descend into a post-apocalyptic nightmare.
    • The GFW leadership is aware that rival extraterrestrial alliances were more powerful in overall military terms, but the latter would abandon Earth operations if the GFW was committed.

    The opposing interplanetary forces that the remote viewers are referring to are the Draconian Reptilian (aka Ciakharr) Empire and the Orion Alliance (aka Collective), which have been discussed in previous remote viewing sessions focusing on Nazis and Reptilians in Antarctica, and US Presidential meetings with extraterrestrials.

    In his evaluation of the data given by the multiple remote viewers, Dr. Brown offered up the following conclusions and insights over these competing extraterrestrial alliances vying over control of humanity:

    "Regarding the Galactic Federation of Worlds, let’s pull things together. I will get straight to the point. We humans on earth need to realize and soon that we are in a very precarious situation. The Galactic Federation of Worlds clearly is trying to help us, but the resources are limited. They are up against forces that seem huge even to them. They do seem to have the ability to help us, but it really looks like they will need our help in order to do it.

    "There were two reasons. First, the membership of the Galactic Federation of Worlds seems to be divided. Most of the membership clearly desires to help, but there are huge doubts within the organization regarding their actual ability to do this, especially on the level of military capabilities. Earth is a relatively backwater planet on a peripheral part of the Galaxy, so that is a factor in our favor. If opposing galactic forces were to make a major effort to stop the Galactic Federation of Worlds from assisting humanity, well, it seems clear that those opposing forces could push the Galactic Federation of Worlds aside; but, on the other hand, are we worth such a major effort?

    "It appears that part of the thinking process of the Galactic Federation of Worlds is the calculation that the opposing forces would not be interested in a major confrontation regarding earth at this time. If it is going to cost the opposing forces a lot, then they are likely to pass on the big confrontation idea."

    The opposing galactic forces—the Draconian Empire and the Orion Alliance—have a powerful hold over humanity through their respective minions and controlled assets, which allow these alien alliances to manipulate humanity’s destiny. William Bramley succinctly describes this in his book, Gods of Eden (1993), which traces out centuries of contrived extraterrestrial conflicts through controlled political elites designed to manipulate humanity’s evolution.

    Dr. Brown next draws attention to the long-term involvement of the Galactic Federation of Worlds in human affairs and what this entails:

    "Clearly, many in the Galactic Federation of Worlds consider humanity to be a successful end result of a project that they started long ago from an evolutionary point of view. Probably one that resulted from a lot of genetic and cultural manipulation, and adaptation over a great many years. We are their children, they care for us, and they want to protect us, but what would any parent do if the child does not want to be helped at some point? All parents need to let go to allow their children to determine their own forward path, but if children openly recognize the challenges that they face and if these same children then turned to their parents for needed assistance which parents would not want to help their own children?

    "So, this is the key. The greatest inhibiting factor that the Galactic Federation of Worlds faces right now is internal disagreement. If they were strongly united and wanted to help humanity in its hour of need against a very threatening and hostile set of aggressors, then they could do something with meaningful success."

    The idea that one or more extraterrestrial civilizations are responsible for seeding or creating humanity dates back to Erich von Daniken’s groundbreaking 1968 book, Chariots of the Gods. He was followed by others, including Zecharia Sitchin, author of The 12th Planet (1976), who devoted considerable attention to extraterrestrials genetically creating our human ancestors, according to ancient records from Sumer and elsewhere.

    According to Dr. Brown’s analysis drawn from his remote viewing team, the Galactic Federation of Worlds has been involved in human history for a very long time and was part of the genetic seeding of humanity. But is there more than one group of friendly extraterrestrials trying to assist humanity, some of which have been involved in long term genetic engineering experiments?

    To be continued in Part 2

    https://exopolitics.org/remote-viewing-the-galactic-federation-of-worlds/
    The Galactic Federation of Worlds - TRAILER

    Feb 15, 2021

    Farsight


    This is the trailer for the full remote-viewing documentary that can be found on
    http:farsightprime.com.

    Just about everyone has heard the words, “The Galactic Federation of Worlds.” Sometimes the words even pop up in the mainstream news, such as when Haim Eshed, the former head of Israel's Defense Ministry's space directorate stated bluntly in December 2020 that the organization exists and that some governments have interacted with it. In quite a number of projects here at Farsight, the words “Galactic Federation of Worlds” have been used to reference a group of planetary civilizations that seem to be supportive of humanity, and opposed to the influence of other groups and species that appear hostile to humanity.

    Well, now it is time to find out more about what those words mean. Exactly what is the Galactic Federation of Worlds? Or perhaps, who are they? Are they one species, or a group of species and civilizations, sort of like a United Nations of the galaxy? Do they have meetings? Do they work together on projects, such as a project that may involve Earth and us humans? Are they a diverse group with diverse interests, or are they all of one mind? And importantly, if they really do desire to help humanity in its hour of need within the context of a galaxy that contains a significant number of threatening or hostile forces, can the Galactic Federation of Worlds really do something helpful? What are its resources? Moreover, does it really need Earth humans to step up to the plate in order to help us out, or is it strong enough to help us out regardless of what we humans do?

    Those are big questions, really big questions, and they are exactly the type of questions we set out to answer when we began this new project at Farsight.






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    I have suggested reading Job through Malachi (straight-through, over and over) in a Stand-Alone manner, noting what these 22 books tell us about the other 44 books. What if one attempted to write an alternative Genesis through Esther and Matthew through Revelation, based solely upon Job through Malachi?? What if one wrote a Job through Malachi Commentary based solely upon Job through Malachi?? This might be an unimaginably difficult project for even the most gifted scholars!! I'm sort of a 'Brainstorm Guy' but I am NOT a 'Follow-Through Guy'!! My threads will always be a pseudointellectual-potpourri of philosophical-perplexities!! Do your OWN Homework!! What if literally ALL Approaches to Life, the Universe, and Everything are ultimately disappointing and unsatisfying?? What if Bertrand Russell was correct concerning 'Unyielding Despair'?? What if my threads would be strongly-rejected by the general-public?? I suspect that they would be. They've certainly been ignored and/or rejected on this website. Judeo-Christianity promises varieties of glory, grandeur, triumph, victory, paradise, utopia, and heaven, with each group thinking they're going to run the show for all-eternity (or something to that effect). I'm tired of the Alpha Foxtrot Bullshit connected with our WONDERFUL Technological 'Civilization'. Everyone seems to be an Insider-Spy these days. WTF?? I'm sorry we couldn't work together, but too much bullshit has gone under the bridge. Sorry About That.
    mudra wrote:
    Timeline for the Sun's Solar Kill Shots Entering the Grand Solar Minimum

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pc2iEph6wk

    This is a culmination of years of research putting together a timeline for the Eddy grand solar minimum intensification based on planetary geometry, overlapping of cooling cycles on 51, 2016, 3740 year cycles, primer field on the Sun, magnetic field changes on Earth and solar system, ancient societies, and maps from 5000BC societies. As it looks the first major food price rises will happen at the end of 2018, then by 2022 it really intensifies. I go year by year from 2018-2025 so you have a clear picture of where, when and how intense the changes will be.

    Love Always
    mudra
    mudra wrote:Solar activity predicted to fall 60% in 2030s, to 'mini ice age' levels: Sun driven by double dynamo

    July 9, 2015

    A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645.  

    Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.

    It is 172 years since a scientist first spotted that the Sun's activity varies over a cycle lasting around 10 to 12 years. But every cycle is a little different and none of the models of causes to date have fully explained fluctuations. Many solar physicists have put the cause of the solar cycle down to a dynamo caused by convecting fluid deep within the Sun. Now, Zharkova and her colleagues have found that adding a second dynamo, close to the surface, completes the picture with surprising accuracy.

    "We found magnetic wave components appearing in pairs, originating in two different layers in the Sun's interior. They both have a frequency of approximately 11 years, although this frequency is slightly different, and they are offset in time. Over the cycle, the waves fluctuate between the northern and southern hemispheres of the Sun. Combining both waves together and comparing to real data for the current solar cycle, we found that our predictions showed an accuracy of 97%," said Zharkova.

    read on: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150709092955.htm

    Love Always
    mudra
    mudra wrote:
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    In 2011 I was diagnosed with a rare and rather new auto immune disease, putting the proper functioning of my kidneys in liability. Ensued years of regular surgery, pet scans, echographies, urine and blood tests sometimes 2 to 3 times a year plus on occasional emergencies until these present times. The cures the hospital had to offer me was a choice betwwen arsenic and rat poison. For someone like me who had barely been sick in this life time and had swallowed antibiotics once only this is how this choice felt. I had a try at one of these but after a year treatment nothing had changed so I asked to stop it which my wise doctor accepted. From then on its been faith alone and a deep and patient knowing the condition would vanish in due time. I remained particularly receptive to whatever came to me in terms of natural remedies,  spiritual development, quantum healing techniques ... that were ringing a bell in me. I had to face the various shocks that brought about the condition in the first place and their far reaching consequences. This has been a high adrenalin experience in its own, sort of a thriller. We are now 10 years later and I would like to announce that the latest tests and scans I passed last week show I am in perfect health. Last hospitalisation was in february and there is no further need for any further ones in the future. This is a victory. Hugs Now the reason I made this post is to share the miracle with everyone here and also to acknowledge 3 persons in particular who consistently supported me during the nightmarish times I underwent during the first few years of falling ill. They emailed me regularly and offered a kind ear and sound advice to what I was going through. If they have been impeccable friends to me I must recognize I have not been as good a friend as they were. Mainly because I realized at some point that not everything can be discussed over the web and that the remaining road I had to travel alone without further explanation. I apologize for this. But this does not mean I have forgotten the kindness that was once offered to me. My Heart remembers and will forever remain grateful to you Sanicle, e-Monkey and Bushycat. I also want to thank those of you who messaged me at times to inquire about my health. Thank You you made  made a  Flowers  Hugs difference to me :heartpulse:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:That's fantastic news, Mudra!! I lean heavily toward natural and preventive health and healing, but the fame, fortune, and power seems to reside in the drugs and surgery medical-military-money complex!! Have you noticed how many of us have had serious (and even fatal) medical issues in the Mists?? Is this by accident and/or design?? I wasn't aware of the extent of your situation (but perhaps I wasn't paying attention). I'm so happy things worked out well for you!! Think about Mercuriel, Hadriel, Brook, Carol, Myself, and even Sherry Shriner (though on her own websites and shows). Is this somehow interrelated?? I've suggested that BOTH Good and Bad get controlled with a somewhat-sinister Bag of Tricks!! Perhaps we ALL get roughed-up in various ways for idealistic and/or nefarious purposes. The Lord Works in Mysterious Ways?? I'm not wishing to sermonize so I might delete this post from this thread and include it on my own thread. I tend to muck-up the threads of others, so I mostly stick to myself. Its easier that way...
    B.B.Baghor wrote: ortho's words: "I wish to move-on to Clean Sheet of Stone Solutions -- but History must be properly handled -- so as to provide a Sustainable Foundation for New Theologies and Philosophies. For me -- studying theology is sort of like the guy who hits himself over the head with a hammer -- because it feels so good when he quits!!"

    Some parts of your posts, like the last sentence in this one above, could well fit in the Humour thread, ortho, You keep hitting the nail on its head, it seems, in your view on studying theology and other statements you make about how you manage and maintain your thread. If I've understood your explanations in your thread, ortho, your intention is to invite members and visitors here and to discuss its content and find understanding and clarity due to that.

    Thank-you B.B. All of this involves a rarely achieved understanding of the world, solar system, and universe -- which I suspect "Top-People" understand very clearly. This is NOT a touchy-feely support-group. This is a royal-model walk on the wild-side!! It involves a lot of experience and experiences -- along with material provided by others. What people (and other than people) do with this is up to them.

    I keep coming back at my trying to understand, what it is that you're looking for in your thread. I'm having a go at it and move forward, by groping and trying, no hunt for an answer as if the end of this discussion should be near. The question mark may remain in it, if you get what I mean. To me it looks like this, that you show up in your thread in two different ways (or roles, deliberately chosen?)

    I guess I'm attempting to give substance to my suppositions. This discussion might never end. This is about Revelation and Mystery. A "Space-Cowboy" Individual of Interest spoke to me about "Mystery" in an approving manner. They also spoke about the "good-side" of Anna in "V" in an approving manner. They spoke to me about pre-cognition and remote-viewing (with military-applications). They spoke to me about who should "really run the world". They spoke to me about how UFO's work (something about gravity and always falling). They spoke of wishing to construct a UFO. They spoke of working with the Pentagon. They spoke to me about Orion. They reminded me of the "Cowboy" in Mulholland Drive.

    At times you're the observer looking at its content from without, which seems to be the intention of the initial plan, with your US of the SS-Final Cut. At other times you're the person actively present in your thread, sharing your observations and feelings on how you see yourself doing and the probable futility of it in the eyes of others, as you seem to perceive may be the case.

    I pretend to be someone I'm not -- to create a Science-Fictional Psycho-Drama -- to make points which could not otherwise be made. This mostly seems to have fallen on "deaf-ears". It's probably mostly a personal-exercise which I am sharing with a few alphabet-interns. I wonder how many of them have gone nuts? I'm actually being somewhat serious.

    This seems to come from within you, ortho, as if it's felt that way, real time. If this is what you call "modelling", I can't say I understand what you mean by that and what it's purpose is. And besides, I'm not sure if that's what it is, ortho. Is it with the intention to share your large amount of documentation and views, to see if they're appreciated as subjects for a discussion? Without the need to find understanding, for this is already material that is understood by you?

    It sometimes seems as if I am "Channeling-Myself". I sometimes imagine myself in important historical, contemporary, and prophetic roles -- so as to provide myself and others with rare-insights into the "Way Things Might've Been or Might Be" as the "Saddest Words That Fingers Can Type". I've actually found some remarkable evidences that I might be some sort of a "Significant Historical Soul" -- but I have no idea whether that would be a good-thing, or not. Some of my questions are rhetorical -- but most are inquisitive. I keep hoping that the right-individuals will systematically and exhaustively answer my many questions (here or in some other context).

    Or is your need of understanding, with the help of discussions, that you welcome here? I risk wrapping conclusions around my questioning here, due to a groping for my understanding. Forgive me if that's perceived that way, by you, ortho. This is the thing, you see, we always have to deal with being at risk in misunderstanding, for the difficulty of only exchanging views in this virtual way. I can imagine there must be some sort of strong drive in you, connected to an urge to find a way to a life with purpose. To me, it seems to be like this, that you feel the clarity for finding it is present outside of you.

    I doubt that I will find a "Purposeful-Life" in "Real-Life" so I am forced to construct a "Significant-Existence" in Cyberspace as some sort of a "Cyberspace-Cowboy". I am often forced to bring discussions from other threads into this thread -- so as to artificially manufacture conversation within this particular thread. I often seem to be "shunned" on this site -- and in "real-life".

    To me, at times, there seems to have happened a reversal of priorities, in the way you handle your thread, as if the exploring and research that you do, have moved to the first position, as a goal in itself. For I see you asking questions, asking questions about the asked questions, ignoring investigations by others sometimes due to the insistent questioning popping up in you. At times, reading parts of your posts, I wonder if there are answers that will satisfy you, if they're searched for.

    The Rare Responses by Others are often catalysts for further questioning and speculation. Most of the material on this thread is the work of others (ignored or otherwise). Responses are sometimes off-topic -- and I seek to stay on track -- which might appear to be ignoring various responders. Thinking deeply about the words of others does not always produce direct-responses from me. I'm sometimes a bit like a psychiatrist or psychologist asking leading questions. Jesus asked a lot of questions. Consider reading Jesus: An Interview Across Time by Dr. Andrew G. Hodges.

    http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Interview-Psychiatrist-Christs-Humanity/dp/0825427908


    I truly wonder what will happen if you at any given moment will find an answer or give up this quest, quieting that mind of yours. I don't mean to suggest that you should stop posting, ortho, I simply wonder in what way your arrival at the end of your quest, feeling that you've found the answers you need, will affect you. Do you expect to feel you will miss the ponder and wonder, the multifaceted way of reflecting on topics that you express in your thread here in the Mists? It's a genuine question, I hope you will perceive it that way Cheerful

    The quest will probably become so dark and controversial that I will be forced to not talk about it publicly or privately. This thing might honestly end in tragedy and great sorrow. I'm NOT expecting a happy-ending.
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    Consider reading the 21 New Testament Epistles (Romans to Jude) straight-through, over and over (in the NIV Reader's Bible). Paul only wrote 7 of the 21 Epistles but how do we really know who wrote what and when?? Just try taking all 21 Epistles as a Whole (plus nothing). Then, try reading Deuteronomy, Job to Isaiah, Daniel, and Luke to Jude straight-through, over and over (in the NIV Reader's Bible). More down to earth, what if we live in a HUGE Hollow-Planet the size of the solar system?? What if Earth is a Flat-Globe, with the world as we know it, occupying less than half the surface of this globe, as a somewhat-flat Earth?? Alternatively, what if the Asteroid Belt, the Oort Cloud, and the Kuiper Belt are more extensive than commonly-known?? What if many of the larger 'chunks' are spaceships (piloted in a variety of methodologies -- possibly to defend the inner-planets)?? What Would Emperor Palpatine Say?? What Would Darth Vader Say?? What Would David Bowman Say?? What Would Frank Poole Say?? What Would HAL 9000 Say??
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    Morpheus wrote:
    "Hope Everyone is Well!"

    orthodoxymoron wrote:
    I have no opinion regarding these videos.

    orthodoxymoron wrote:I hope you are well. I crashed and burned. What else is new?? How do we distinguish between Perception, Deception, and Disclosure?? What if we're NOT supposed to know a lot of things?? What if humanity is stuck in quicksand?? What if we need to choose our battles wisely??
    Morpheus wrote: I don't know what folks are thinking here at the Mists concerning my last post. Thanks for the "like" Clearwater. As some of you are aware, I have revealed my interactions with Sol, on the Bridge-Way. So for me, this is very personal. The connection to this incredible being. I have been blessed. My intention was to share that blessing with all of you. That hasn't changed. The intention. But something within me has. My priorities. Especially after watching Sol getting attacked like that. They made it very personal.

    The connection... Easy Peasy! Someone here said we had one active strand of DNA. Bingo!!!!! The rest of those strands are inactive, IMO. This is by reptilian design. And the greys were also involved with this agenda. Once upon a time, there was another strand joining this one strand. The bridge-way between the two was severed, compliments of the regressives. Why did they do this? For control over you. The first strand is networked into your chakra system and is also the primary network that plugs into the planet. This network plugs into Gaia's chakra system. IF Gaia dies, we all die. The second strand is the connection to our solar system. In organic form. Giving you access to various places you could travel to with your light body. Wormholes, temporal displacements, stargates, etc. become available. To activate this second strand will take a few minutes to do. Like maybe two? All we have to do is repair the bridge-way between the two. Join the two together. Like a filament in a light bulb. Tiny weld job. Now focus, clear your brain, see the light bulb and the severed filament. Now focus on your intent till you can feel it energizing and now focus on the severed section as in exactly the point. Wait for it.

    The connection, part Deux... is no different than a connection with family, friends, and so on. There is a genuine personality there. A Soul. What I found with Sol was that he had a great sense of humor in his tone. Not his words. He was joyful throughout each exchange. Showed me some wild stuff. He was also very positive. Let me just say, he will grow on you in a hurry. What he conveyed in those meetings, is how the regressives try to change his codes. The "reasoning" behind it. Take the sun out and we take out the whole system and we will have total control. Less time and resources to do that instead of taking each planet, one by one. Hijacking a whole solar system.

    Each time, I was treated very well. Respect was automatic. He also has spoken his truth and now we bear witness as to what he said. Time-stamped before the event. Incredible if you ask me on one level and on another level very disturbing all at the same time. A paradox. What would OXY say? What would Gene Say? What's coming next? Another huge war similar to the Orion War?

    A portal device was used. This has a Reptilian signature to it. It wasn't a survey probe! It was a weapon of real mass destruction. Take a moment and visualize the scope of this event. The blast field? The size of the device? If we got a direct hit like that, we would be toast right now. No?

    The Galactic Rumor Mill is in full swing. Has been for a while now. There are Galactic newspapers. Also, news transmissions flying in all directions. Remember, AS ABOVE, SO BELOW. For many that are out there, our little planet is their preferred TV station. And you are one of the Stars. The value of media out there is much more valuable too. A much more wider audience. An Audience that is multi-dimensional. To add the fact that everything is recorded and being stored on some famous place. Galactic stock exchange? What if the tMoA forum was a stock in that exchange? What would be the going rate? Everything is monitored. News travel faster than light speed. You are on stage 24/7, even when you sleep. Heaven forbid if you post on a forum expressing your POV. In defiance of their invasion of your privacy. Social score? How about Galactic score? What is your Galactic worth? Are you worth abducting? DNA value? How does that get traded across the markets? How does your meat suite rate? 80/20?  What grade? What do your toxin ratios look like? Slave Space Auctions? They apparently also like our beer here and rumor has it that it is a good thing to trade with. Do you think that we are the only ones in this galaxy with addiction issues? As above, so below! Imagine being a Galactic Psychologist. Talk about a position that will screw your own mind. Another paradox.

    There's a poker game out there. They don't call it 5 card stud either. They call the game, Free Agency. I'll let you ponder on that one. Pending on your galactic score we will place you at a table with the right parameters. You'll feel right as rain. What am I playing for? High stakes my friend. What's in the pot? How about your soul? Winner takes all! We also use stacked decks so you can't possibly win. We sent a memo through your Simpson network to let everyone upfront know so you wouldn't think any funny business was going on. And if we don't like the results, we will shuffle you back into the deck and deal you out on the table as long as it takes to get what we want out of you. A poker career if you will in a matrix of time and space of our choosing. We own you.

    How's this for an option? Inform everyone we are claiming our sovreignty on this planet and all of you ETs, every council, which includes all versions of the GF, and take your regressives with you, and leave our world and leave us alone so that we can realize our potential on our own! Without all the prime directives that have been violated anyway. All these factions, good and bad have only gotten in our way by all their interferences. Policies that only reflect their hypocracy just like the a@@holes we vote in. As above, so below. We are done filling your quotas as a resource. We will choose what factions we will interact with on a global scale, instead of the Simpson network.

    All liabilities are null and void since you stole everything from us to begin with. We should send you a bill! For thousands of years of our time serving your STS agendas.Then bomb the crap out of our sun to top things off? Are you serious? Take your starseeds with you too! Quarantine us, PLEASE! And at the same time, quarantine yourselves from our world. Your combine efforts only reflect pain and suffering. We're done with that. Like I said, being in a higher density or dimension, doesn't mean everything is better.

    Last many years we heard of the Reptilians getting their butts handed back to them, to the point that we were told, "WE WON!" As if it was over. I didn't fall for that because I could still sense them down below the surface. Using one of the oldest tactics to get you to drop your guard down.

    Independence Day is coming up. Some things to think about here.

    Have a good night.  Sleep
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Good to see you posting, Morpheus. I value your point of view, yet I never know what the real-story is in a variety of contexts. I'm reduced to being a pseudo-journalist who publishes nothing. My misery and incapacitation are NOT Nice. I recently wondered if some of us are under a Conservatorship or Regency (perhaps by our own choosing)?! What if David Bowman (figuratively) was a Matrix-Architect who created HAL 9000 yet was ultimately subject to HAL under an Ancient Regency or Conservatorship (perhaps similar to Britney Spears or Queen Victoria)?? The Victorian Regency might've been hypothetical, or was it literal?? Who Knows Who Controls Who?? How Do We Know Anything Absolutely?? I'm Over the Hill and Going Downhill Fast. I Recently Seemed to Not Properly Converse with Carol. Perhaps I Should Not Converse with Anyone Regarding Anything. I Seem to be Shutting-Down in a Semi-Retirement of Quiet-Desperation as I Twist Slowly, Slowly in the Wind...
    Lionhawk wrote:Between you and me, I have always been drawn to what you proposed 12 years ago as far as your thread regarding some kind of Constitution to be put in place on a universal level. All the reasons for implementing one are totally justified, IMO. Not by any outside parties either. Which includes societies that come from out there. They incarnate here to further their STS agendas. As an example, the Thuban Society. You have all these factions out there, good and bad dictating to us here, their version of what should be as defined by their opinions, without any consideration of what we want, as if we were some herd of brainless beings. You want the real story? Just look out your window or better yet, look in the mirror. You are living proof and a story that is alive here on the planet. All these factions dictating policies don't live here. Many of them are not even human. So how is it that they are the experts on humanity? Plus add the fact that there is not one council here representing this planet with 100% integrity. IMO of course. We don't even have a global council with a head representative to attend any negotiations or anything else for that matter, with these outside factions. This whole planet and everyone on it is in the wind. Many of these factions don't even see us as a viable race. So my question is why do we give them all this power over us? Are we that stupid? Just like the V series you posted up referencing how they do it. I prefer the Twilight Zone's, "To Serve Man," episode. We have been served! Literally!

    The deeper I go into this rabbit hole, the more disgusted I get. I'm sick and tired of all the excuses disguised in love and light. From out there and here. Love and light band-aids that are warm and fuzzy for a few seconds of your time, meanwhile, the harvesting continues. Nothing has really changed. Same crap, different day. Reacting is what we end up doing. Hoping for sanity and a sliver of peace just to survive another day. Fat chance on that.

    And all this 2nd hand information that traps your brain with nothing but distractions that only prevents you from realizing your potential. Then add the matrixes that some of these factions put into play. So you are constantly being screwed with. Remember OXY, fractal mechanics are always in play in the backdrop of all that is. In other words, there are limitless matrixes out there. Limitless supercomputers as well. It's not a question any longer as to whether they exist or not? I am not just talking out my butt here. I have seen and can validate some of the questions you have posed. In the first hand. Hold a gun to my head, and just ask and I will answer you with my life hanging in the balance. I have no reason to lie to anyone. I have no agenda or anything I need from anyone to exert an agenda that seeks for the self. In other words, I am here to serve this planet. And I know some folks have taken my intentions and twisted them around to fit their emotional bodies. The fears of their emotional body go into reaction mode. And if they can't feel warm and fuzzy from what you say... you can figure out what comes next. You've been there. So you know what I mean. Especially with those who think they have some kind of authority over you, with their linear titles in hand or hanging on their walls. A conflict of interest will occur when those emotions of fear start to move from their embedded positions. I don't know how many times I have found myself on the short end of their sticks. Which is a good thing, IMO. It means I am serving them, doing what I came here to do by revealing to them what they have buried within themselves. Or have forgotten. That is what your sacred light does. And it just happens naturally for me. My apologies in advance for anyone who may take offense to these last few lines.

    Like you, I am not much into being a social butterfly these days. I refrain from posting nowadays. A couple of reasons why that is. "I took your advice." Even though you didn't direct it at me. Where you keep telling us you shouldn't be posting. For probably the same logical reasons as to not create a conflict with some member's emotional body. For me, it is a trust issue. I don't trust two-faced forum jackals who operate with double standards. Plain and simple. Who would? And don't ask me who?

    Thanks for posting and for taking down your post. You are always welcomed here OXY.  Cool
    Carol wrote:Here are a ton of doctors explaining why the ‘’Jab’’ is not a wise decision to take.

    Doctors who explain clearly why vaccines aren't safe or effective!!!!.

    1. Dr. Nancy Banks - http://bit.ly/1Ip0aIm  
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    35. Dr. Richard Deth - http://bit.ly/1GQDL10  
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    Hundreds more doctors testifying that vaccines aren't safe or effective, in these documentaries....

    1. Vaccination - The Silent Epidemic - http://bit.ly/1vvQJ2W  
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    Thank-you, Carol and Morpheus. I'm especially puzzled by my recent posting. Perhaps there is a subconscious component to this. I somehow require input and insight regarding Regency and Conservatorship. I'm thinking in terms of Britney Spears, Queen Victoria, Jupiter Jones, Chad Decker, David Bowman, and others. However, I suspect those who know don't want me to know. I could say more but perhaps I should not talk. It might be easier that way. I've been deleting most of my recent posts on the threads of others, but I mostly include them on my own thread. I often include the quoted material of others. This helps to facilitate a meaningful dialogue where there is mostly only a monologue (or something to that effect). Supercilious-Soliloquys are SO Overrated. I'm not on a mission. I sample, watch, listen, and learn. For what its worth, I've encountered someone who looks and acts like Diane Feinstein, but my level of certainty is quite low. Whoever it was didn't seem to like me. I seem to be universally hated, especially by those in the know. Unfortunately, I know I don't know. I wish I weren't so miserable and hamstrung. That throws a monkey-wrench in the machinery but hopefully we'll learn something (or amuse ourselves). My dental problems are escalating in a bizarre manner. I don't know what the hell is going on. I employ Contextual-Superimposition, so I don't necessarily connect dots or clinch arguments. I often create more problems than solutions. It's a nasty-job but someone has to do it. It seems as if this is some sort of a stupid power-struggle and/or popularity-contest which I obviously lost, but I don't even know what it's all about. Ignorance and Virtue are SO Overrated. To All Concerned and Unconcerned, I've been requesting detailed analysis and recommendations for at least a dozen years. The Silence has Been Deafening. This Could've Been Good. BTW, I'm NOT the Good-Looking Guy with the Motorcycles, but I Am Quite Envious!! What if This Present Darkness is Mostly BS VS BS?? What if We Need to Start-Over Without Starting-Over?? What if My Threads Are Ultimately Wrong, Yet an Excellent Conceptual-Laboratory?? Should I Buy a Restored Vintage Husqvarna 500CR?? Should I Buy a Restored Vintage Honda CR500R?? I Am NOT Sirius!! My reflexes are too slow and my bones are too brittle!! Should I Just Fvck the Shut-Up?? Should I End the Quest Once and for All?? Should I Just Read Old Books?? Should I Love Big-Brother and Big-Mother?? Should I Like Things Just the Way They Are?? I Hope No One is Disappointed When the Veil is Lifted. Then We'll See!! Purgatory Incorporated in Perpetuity?? The Song That Doesn't End?? The Fun Never Ends?? I Can't Fake It Anymore!! Have a Nice Eternity. Namaste, Godspeed, and Geronimo. Yours Truly, Neo.


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    Brook wrote:
    orthodoxymoron quoted: I would really like to know if anyone has taken a close look at this thread - or any of the other threads I have posted??

    Raven wrote: Barely, as its full of nothing but egotestical puritanical rantings from a completely ignorant fool, who would rather spend hours typing endless bathering bullshit out of his incessant mouth, and listening to his own "higher" ego then the True higher ego of the Divine.

    If one reads your bullshit enough, one gets an idea as to the degree and level of how deep your rabbit hole goes. Mostly the hole leads right up your XXX.

    Oh bullshit oxy, you LOVE this XXXX, its all you talk about and point people in the direction of it!! Get over yourself already. You are an incredibly ignornant Xxxxx hiding behind a false puritanical skirt, who needs to grow some balls and accept his own self responsibility. Law of attraction baby, what you dish out will be in kind served back to you. Your so called sincere search is nothing but your own whining out loud, hoping for some small platitude from anyone taking the time to read your vomit.

    Brook Responded: Has someone got their panties in a bunch?  Oh wait....it must be that "True higher ego of the divine" speaking". Self Governance comes from knowing and understanding the Divine...............I'll bet that venom comes from one of those "aspects", or "archetypes" Divine understanding?  not so certain about that........ but none the less, "enlightening" words Raven.

    Truly sent with love
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    I'm tired of being ignored and/or hated as I attempt to 'figure things out' and 'solve the world's problems' without appreciation and/or compensation. Apparently 'casting one's pearls before the swine' constitutes a 'grave-threat to national-security'. I've been incognito for nearly two-months, and no-one has added to this thread. Why am I not surprised?? Is Rich@$$Hole the New-Normal?? What if Earth is supposed to be Purgatory Incorporated for All-Eternity?? What if Earth is NOT Supposed to be Made-Better?? 'RA' told me "You Can Leave Things the Way They Are, If You Choose" and "You'll Be Sorry If You Try to Save Humanity". What if 'Resistance is Futile' even for the Borg-Queen and/or Matrix-Mediatrix and/or Matrix-Creator?? Anyway, I'd appreciate some wise-advice regarding any of my Threads aka Exercises in Futility, but I won't hold my breath. I might contrast [Genesis to Esther] and [Matthew to Acts] with [Job to Malachi] and [Romans to Revelation], just for the hell of it. You know, the Historical-Books contrasted with the Theological-Books. Didn't you go to Sabbath-School or Sunday-School?? Consider reading [Job to Daniel] and [Romans to Philemon] straight-through, over and over, in the 'NIV Reader's Bible' (by Zondervan). [Wisdom-Books, Major-Prophets] and [Pauline-Epistles]. This might be a Missing-Link in your Sophisticated Alternative-Research. The Bible is a Can of Worms which must be properly understood and managed IMHO.

    What Would Dr. Carol Williams Play?? What Would Dr. Francesca Stavrakopoulou Say?? I Love to Hear Francesca Say "David!!" 'RA' Told Me "I'm Close to God!!" What If God Doesn't Believe in God?? What Would George Zebrowski's 'Heathen God' Say?? https://epdf.tips/george-zebrowski-heathen-god.html Ever Heard of the 'Human (G)nome Project'?? What If God Isn't 'God-Enough' for Us?? A Famous Attorney Told Me "If Jesus Showed-Up the Church Wouldn't Know What to Do with Him!!" What If God is a Slob?? What If We Achieved Eternal-Freedom from God 5,000 to 15,000 Years Ago?? What If Our 'Proxy-God' is HAL 9000?? What Would David Bowman Say?? This might be much more significant than 'Patristics'. What Would Joseph Farrell Say?? Consider the following Individuals of Interest. Is there a past-life connection?? What if they are the Same-Soul?? Dr. Who was called 'Your Holiness' in 'The Vampires of Venice'. What Would a Renegade French Jesuit Organist Say?? Several Insiders (in all factions) need to study my nine USSS threads exhaustively. I'm an outsider, and I won't dig-deep, go-nuts, or sell-out, so I'll probably never know the Real-Deal and/or Real-Truth. It might be easier that way. What Would Ovid Say?? What Would Michael Say?? What Would the Black Knight Say??

    1. Martin Luther (1483 to 1546).
    2. Francis Bacon (1561 to 1626).
    3. Dietrich Buxtehude (1637 to 1707).
    4. John Carroll (1735 to 1815).
    5. Prince Albert (1819 to 1861).
    6. Eugenio Pacelli (1876 to 1958).
    7. Dr. Who (1963 to ????).

    I understand the experiential and devotional aspects of 'He Lives Within My Heart' but I keep encountering sacred-texts such-as 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 New International Version:

    Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.



    Consider this lecture by Dr. Desmond Ford. There is a problem here. The deeper I dig, the more resistance I encounter, which I find highly-suspicious, as if the Matrix-Oracle is cracking-down on an Uppity Completely-Ignorant Fool with a Monkey-Mind and a God-Complex!! We seem to be in some sort of a Galactic-Prison aka Hotel-California, but perhaps it's better not to know. Ignorance seems to be Bliss and Virtue. Perhaps I should read 'Q' instead of the 'Holy-Bible'. It might be easier that way. I understand the Christ Concept, but the details seem increasingly problematic, such as the 'Hard Sayings of Jesus' (see Dr. F.F. Bruce) or the 'Quest for the Historical Jesus in Acts to Revelation'. There are numerous 'Hard Sayings' and the 'Life and Teachings of the Historical Jesus' (as found in the Gospels) don't seem to exist or be acknowledged in Acts to Revelation. However, visualizing a Perfect Being of Ethics and Responsibility named 'Christ' and/or 'Jesus' is spiritually expedient and effective. My current problem with religion is that people are scared and superstitious, and seem incapable of being open and honest regarding their church and sacred-writings. Perhaps Pluralistic-Education and Corporate-Employment is the New-Religion for a New-Age (or something corny like that).

    Perhaps one should tell people what they wish to hear about 'Jesus' and 'Religion'. Perhaps one should say (in essence) "I Think Like You Do." Perhaps one should make as much money as possible, and "Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow." The Revelation of Jesus Christ is highly-violent and highly-upsetting. The first and last chapters should be carefully examined before buying into the rest of the Last Book of the Bible. I appreciate supernatural-experiences, but I don't seek them. I don't astral-travel or channel-archangels, but what was I supposed to do when someone showed-up, saying "I AM RA"?? I'm going to let this go for a while, but I'm presently thinking in terms of reading 1 Chronicles to Malachi in the Reader's NIV Bible (without verse numbering) straight-through, over and over. James Dean (in East of Eden) would love that version! I have no idea where this might ultimately lead, but it might shed significant light on Genesis to 2 Kings and Matthew to Revelation. Something is very-right and very-wrong with Religion and Spirituality (as we know it).

    I sometimes visit an Old Masonic-Cemetery (which is sort of a ritual with me). It makes me face myself and think. I'm feeling worse and worse, with my 'one-eye out of alignment with the other-eye' episodes occurring much more frequently. I'm seeing those 'streaming white lights' much more often (which I'm interpreting as nefarious remote-viewing). Some 'wandering-souls' might not make it back to their bodies. My computer has been running very-hot, with the battery draining very-quickly, which means that someone has been messing with my computer. I hope you guys are cracking-down on the Bad-Guys as hard as you crack-down on the Good-Guys. If I don't have much-longer would that be a good-thing or a bad-thing (for me, the good-guys, and the bad-guys)?? What if I left, and never returned??

    I wish I were a scholar, but the inconvenient truth is that my misery regarding the predicaments of humanity and myself propel me to seek unconventional explanations and solutions, which is why I hang out on this website. I suppose I'm attempting to understand the real characters and circumstances behind the mythologies and theologies. The Christ (as we know Him) seems to be a shadow of a very-ancient lost-somebody. I'm leaning toward some sort of Zeus and Artemis (figurative and/or literal) conflict and/or collaboration. I'm merely a reflector of the brilliance of others (including members of this website). I've merely created a study-guide for Sirius-Researchers (and NOT a manifesto and/or ultimatum). I know that I don't know, but I suspect that humanity (and myself) are in a HUGE amount of trouble. I'm truly an Apostate-SDA, and possibly a Past-Life Renegade-Turncoat Roman-Catholic and/or Ancient-Hebrew. I might be an Ancient Hermaphrodite-Reptilian System-Lord (for all I know) with a HUGE amount of Karmic-Debt. I simultaneously accept and reject the Bible and EGW. I simultaneously accept and reject the UFO and Alien reports and theories.

    Consider a 40 Acre Horse-Ranch in Langley, British Columbia, Converted into a One-Year All-Girls Boarding-Academy (with Uniforms) Based Upon Hard-Work, Equestrian-Excellence, Academic-Excellence, Sacred Classical Music, the Five-Book Conflict of the Ages Series (EGW) and the Seven-Volume SDA Bible Commentary. I Could Explain but Not Now. 1913 was an Interesting Year. Rockefeller is an Interesting Name. Kellogg is an Interesting Name. Charitable Foundation is an Interesting Concept. Homeostasis is an Interesting Concept. Prevention is an Interesting Concept. Fame, Fortune, and Power are Interesting Concepts. Survival is an Interesting Concept. That's All I'm Going to Say About That (for now). I'm reduced to reviewing my threads in a MOST miserable manner. Probably the less-said the-better. It might've been...Shalom.

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    Seashore wrote:
    GERM THEORY VS. TERRAIN THEORY (VIRUS VS EXOSOME)

    First published at 02:34 UTC on June 19th, 2021.

    CONSCIOUSLY WOKE

    In 1913, John D. Rockefeller Sr. took full control of Western Medicine and promoted what's known as "germ theory" in hopes to control the world and peddle patented vaccines & pharmaceuticals on unsuspecting, fearful citizens...

    This short, informative video will explain the 2 theories and how they relate to health, the PCR tests, and the Covid "vaccine".

    Germ Theory: The current accepted (false) theory of disease, that has been instilled, taught and permeated throughout the much of the world, states that microorganisms known as pathogens or "germs" can lead to disease.

    Terrain Theory: States that diseases are results of our internal environment (terrain) and it's ability to maintain homeostasis against outside threats.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/9OoEO2oTS64v/
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    Would You Buy a Used Car From These Men??
    orthodoxymoron wrote:With a Space-Force and Military-Bases in Most Countries of the World, What if Donald Trump is Ultimately Replaced with an Adolph Hitler on Steroids (or Estrogen)?! This Might Make for Some Interesting Science-Fiction!! I've Hesitatingly Spoken of a United States of the Solar System, BEGINNING in A.D. 2133, But Would This Play Into the Above Hypothetical Scenario?! I've Taken My Foot Off the Gas, and Applied the Brakes. I've Encouraged the Agency-Academics to Take a Close Look at My Tripe, and Somehow Let Me Know What Their Conclusions Are. I'm Frankly Extremely Apprehensive. Good Intentions Often Pave the Road to Hell. The Horror.
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    Carol wrote:Oxy, what if you kept telling yourself that you're blessed and filled with faith that Donald Trump is getting the job done and has support of the heavens. Yeah, do that. Repeatedly, for the rest of the year and your negative outlook may be reborn into something a bit more positive.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, I'm wary of the Primrose-Path. The German People probably thought the rise of Hitler was the Second-Coming of Christ, but things went to hell. Sherry Shriner spoke of Donald Trump being led down a path he wouldn't wish to travel. There could be such a thing as Progressive-Compartmentalization wherein seemingly innocent steps are taken, which cumulatively can be assembled into multiple End of the World Scenarios. I suspect there are at least three VERY Powerful Factions fighting for control of the solar system, but they might ultimately be controlled by ONE CEO. We seem to be playing a MOST Dangerous Game, and Due-Diligence is probably in order. I might not be opposed to these hypothetical factions if I knew the whole-story, but I don't get invited to Bilderberg or the Dark-Side of the Moon. I don't belong to the CLUB, so I'm left with being speculative and negative on the internet. If I really wanted to be positive, I should probably avoid this thread, because it is quite inflammatory and accusatory (which I don't object to) but I sort of enjoy wallowing in the mud and dirt. I employ Possibility-Thinking (both positive and negative) relative to This Present Darkness (for better or worse, I know not). Such is the life of a completely-ignorant fool with a morbid sense of curiosity and a dry sense of humor.
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    Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them; While the sun, or the light, or the moon, or the stars, be not darkened, nor the clouds return after the rain: In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble, and the strong men shall bow themselves, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those that look out of the windows be darkened, And the doors shall be shut in the streets, when the sound of the grinding is low, and he shall rise up at the voice of the bird, and all the daughters of musick shall be brought low; Also when they shall be afraid of that which is high, and fears shall be in the way, and the almond tree shall flourish, and the grasshopper shall be a burden, and desire shall fail: because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets: Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity. And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs. The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth. The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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    Vidya Moksha wrote:I found this while looking at magnetic field reversal. I like his science, so far..i have barely scratched the surface..

    Doom...but interesting to know the truth

    Diehold Foundation Video series 4, Part 1, covers the causes of the ice ages and why they happen immediately after a geomagnetic reversal. The videos cover the causes of the Ice Ages at the time of Geomagnetic Reversals. The earth does not flip over on itself. Only the magnetic field reverses. This information has never been taught before because government felt it was too disruptive to society.  Those with degrees in geology, astronomy were deliberately never taught this information. You were taught wrong alternate explanations for the phenomena. The research revealed the Greatest Secret the Country has and the CIAs Involvement. You are going to find out what event caused the government to engineer the concealment. I am going to give you the Education you were supposed to have gotten when you went to College. I am going to present this information unblemished and treat all of you like mature adults, but I warn you that this information will scare you and change your life. I present this information because I want some people to survive the reversal event. If you have any questions on any of the videos, just send your questions to research@dieholdfoundation.com or info@dieholdfoundation.com  and they will be answered directly or in a Q&A video in that series. List of all the video Series:

    Video Series 1 The Theory of Multidimensional Reality.
    Part 1: The two different ways to describe the Universe: https://youtu.be/FYnb2GvCEWw.
    Part 2: Defining the Problem. How I found the Clock Cycle in the Universe; https://youtu.be/NCrczGaUv0Y .
    Part 3: Creation of the Atom and Defining Dimensions; https://youtu.be/hA14BIEWsOY.
    Part 4: Dimensions 5-8. What is Gravity; https://youtu.be/uxIBL0fyVZE.
    Part 5: What is Light; https://youtu.be/ykeLiKP9RW4 .
    Part 6: The Subatomic “Particles” and what they Really are; https://youtu.be/Y-HvHvF3LMU .
    Part 7: Where Quasars get their energy; https://youtu.be/b8OsDwPaBzM .
    Part 8: The Crisis in Physics; https://youtu.be/LmIUoDpFrnk .

    Video Series 2. Creation of the Hebrew Alphabet.
    Part 1: The creation model of the Hebrew Alphabet; https://youtu.be/G_Fiyij2FP4.
    Part 2: The science philosophy behind the Hebrew Alphabet; https://youtu.be/HgzTQxJT3HQ.
    Part 3: The Three Shapes the Letters Form; https://youtu.be/x4YsD-23yJY.
    Part 4: Dating the Torah and the Technology; https://youtu.be/KBDV70e1W2Y.

    Video Series 3. Gravity & time experiments.
    Part 1: Field Experiment at Oregon Vortex, Santa Cruz Mystery Spot; https://youtu.be/NFBGxi_InoI.

    Video Series 4. Causes of the Ice Ages & Polar Reversals.
    Part 1: Clock cycles that cause the reversals; https://youtu.be/bMr-5HHnAmU.
    Part 2: Proof Sun novas; https://youtu.be/PS_yq19Af-s.
    Part 2B: Proof all stars Nova; https://youtu.be/R2SolQPKlag.
    Part 3: The great flood; https://youtu.be/m-g4Xt-VVzA.
    Part 4A: Sea level changes; https://youtu.be/GD30QvUJfXQ.
    Part 4B: Meteors do not cause extinctions; https://youtu.be/7LmCyDp0RDI.
    Part 4C/E: 14C dating Issues; https://youtu.be/7N2q2DZ23PM.
    Part 4D: Greenland crater; https://youtu.be/my9Ba1ZAyVY.
    Part 4F: Earth’s rotation reverses during polar reversal; https://youtu.be/BhENb-Su9WE.
    Part 4G: Mechanism that creates the Earth’s magnetic field & rotation?; https://youtu.be/QtT_kBRXtnM.
    Part 5A: Ways to survive the reversal; https://youtu.be/iJPWnZjuUbA.
    Part 5B: The easy way to survive; https://youtu.be/dtFwzbJ6rkk.
    Part 5C: Most coded secret in the Torah; https://youtu.be/Qew56PacOeQ.

    Video Series 6. Moses 10 Code Systems:
    Part 1: Code systems 1-7; https://youtu.be/iBXOFwHov0E.
    Part 2: Code systems 8-10, #12,068 Embedded in the Torah; https://youtu.be/NVe-uGEdtZs.

    Video Series 7. God’s Code System:
    Part 1: God’s 11th code system; https://youtu.be/FlnGSMtyBe0.
    Part 2: 12,068 day cycles: https://youtu.be/sp3HtKU6I4U.

    Video Series 8. Abraham & the cave:
    Part 1: Why Abraham Sold his Half Sister 2X; https://youtu.be/vm-yBMMl5f0.
    Part 2: Coded Names for Mount Sinai & the Technology in the cave; https://youtu.be/yghxYTKTAdw.

    Video Series 9. Joseph & slavery for 11 Tribes:
    Part 1: Young Joseph; https://youtu.be/nAydLkyvolA.
    Part 2: Becomes prime minister; https://youtu.be/6puAK4HhvD8.
    Part 3: 11 tribes enslaved; https://youtu.be/c26yb54mfh8.

    Video Series 10. The Exodus and Finding the Real Mount Sinai: Part 1: the Pharaoh; https://youtu.be/o9u2UTPyXTo.
    Part 2: Moses & the cave; https://youtu.be/Ge_QR6vloZI.
    Part 3: The Altars; https://youtu.be/lSvAqGROWdw.
    Part 4: The Ark:  https://youtu.be/RNTO98i5mwg.
    Part 5: After Mount Sinai; https://youtu.be/rAMFPcH-ySE.
    Part 6: The missing 12 tribes: https://youtu.be/vuNWKbMddr8.

    Video Series 12. How & who Changed the Science:
    Part 1: How & Who; https://youtu.be/5RxSAScquPY.
    Part 2: Why the Piso’s did it; https://youtu.be/pJIiieYFWvI.

    The books mentioned can be purchased through www.Amazon.com or www.vectorpub.com & www.dieholdfoundation.com. The Diehold Foundation is a 501(C)3 Public Science Foundation. Donations are tax deductible and are welcomed.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for this thread, Vidya. I've spent some time on this topic, including books and videos by Douglas Vogt, but there's only so much I can digest and verify, so I've mostly moved on. Regarding 2046, there are some 87 year periods (fourscore and seven years) I find quite interesting (which coincide with 2046) but I won't comment on them at this point. Some of them are personal. I'm not sure what to make of this, but regarding the Torah (and the rest of the Bible) we're probably not dealing with a bunch of primitive-warriors and sheep-herders in the middle of the desert. We might not be dealing with God (or god) as we know this being to be commonly known. We might be dealing with Ancient-Technology, including Supercomputers, Robotics, Planetary-Propulsion. Weapons of Mass-Destruction, etc. This thing might be worse than we can imagine. Judeo-Christianity (as commonly known) might be a collection of Cover-Stories. Jesus said, "I have many things to tell you, but you can't bear them." In other words, "You Can't Handle the Truth." Unfortunately, we might be in the process of having the Truth crammed down our throats, regardless of whether anyone can handle the Truth or not. I continue my contextual-study but I have reached few-conclusions. What if HAL 9000 (for want of a better term) has run this solar system for millions of years (for better or worse)?? What Would David Bowman Say?? What Would Raven Say?? "@#$%^&*#$%^!!!!!"

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:HELLO HAL. More Blue Roller. Just Do a 'Member' Search and Select 'Posts'. I'm Approximately Half-Way Through the Chronological Download (Without Context, Editing, or Paragraphing). Just the Raw Data. Just the Facts, Ma'am. Actually, I Occasionally Add My Notes but I Don't Think Outside the Box. Enjoy.
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    Yeah ,the breatharian thing . I have tried it now and then and I find its a state of mind that allows that energy to replenish you . Sea Water or River is a good conduit . Or walking barefoot in the morning dew . People don't seem to realize that skin is a digestive organ as well as a breathing one . All comes back down to making the love connection in the end . The tricky part is that a lot of people attach to many expectations to that love when they experience it for the first time and they associate it with need rather than receiving without expectation. To locked up in the systems welfare state of mutual dependence. You can actually get overweight being breatharian if your still eating too . But so what . You can always tell when someone has a breatharian component in their diet . You see that glow about them . Very beautiful. My Mentor was getting ready to die and just wanted to prove a point to himself . Never place limits on Love, because you cant . Its a limitless source that gives without thought of return. Lunch time. I get what your saying and I still get shocked sometimes by nature too . Last year I was watching two native pigeons doing their courting ritual right in front of me on the grass when BAM ! a sparrow hawk hits one right there on the ground ,kills its instantly ,then fly's off with it leaving its partner crying . I mean really shocking stuff . I see things like that and my soft compassionate side is shocked and also I have intervened to stop the crows stealing young ducklings. Its hard to accept death in the raw like that I know but only because we over identify with our bodies because we fear death is the end. Life is a privilege and yes you fight for it and defend it but we have to accept the shadow of death without it crippling our day to day enjoyment of life . Farms are not all slaughter though . In the old days it was done with very minimum fuss ,quickly and gently so the animal does not suffer . Nobody likes to make animals suffer anymore than they want humans to suffer in pain. Unless they are really sick . Just now actually I googled 'vegan malnutrition' and I was not surprised to find there have been many cases of parents loosing babies/children to undernourishment . Even when breast feeding because the mothers milk is only as good as the food she eats . My wife breast fed our daughter for way longer than most mothers but it took a lot out of her .Her hair became dull and her nails weak even with plenty of meat and dairy to replenish her energy stores . Our Daughter loved breastfeeding ! Oh boy . No doubt about it , my wife ate way more dairy and meat during that time and she needed to. A number of cases of child death have gone to court because of vegan obstinacy actually. I know someone personally who miscarried partly from malnutrition . Vitamins A and B12 in particular are hard to get in adequate amounts. Iron is not as bioavailable in plants as in meat either. Herbivores have much bigger digestive systems to extract enough nutrition . We just did not evolve down that path. I have seen to many people who are not fully engaged enough to make vegan Work safely . One friend has severe osteoporosis as a direct result of to little calcium in her diet. Very hard to rebuild that later in life .  Women in particular need to be well on top of that . Its kind of scary when I actually tot up the number of people I know personally who are not getting it right and suffering . Having said that I know plenty of meat eaters who are disastrously unhealthy too. I find myself asking vegans "do you have to be quite that strict ,cant you just be a little flexible and at least get some dairy/eggs in to the mix ?" Got to go. There you go Swanny . God has spoken. So that will just be ten hail mary's and a generous donation to the church. Now go , and dont sin again without shelling out some more serious guilt and dosh to your 'heavenly father'. Yeah yeah yeah, here we go with the spiritual guilt trip. Lets break out the incense sticks and the Fat gilded Buddha's and set up a stand for the poor stupid white westerners to throw money at our Fat self righteous Guru's . 'Oh yes you are so so guilty and we are thinking you need to be punished with ten life times of bad Karma............................' All aboard for the Karma train to Bombay Central. Make my 'Miracle' a fake Rolex please Sai Baba . Admiral Swanny ! Nice . So you confess you are a cereal Killer ? May you rot in the further most abyss for your sins you naughty , naughty person . So GFL eh ? That's the Galactic federation of light or the Galactic Federated Legion ? No wait , its the Grand funky liaison Officer from Boscombe Down .Dude ! Damn! Give me some skin bro ,what you doin' back in the Hood. Nature is not about being right. It is about Being. The most precious wisdom and experience often comes from the biggest mistakes . What does not kill us makes us stronger and if its time to die its time to die . Natures strength and beauty comes from its fantastic Diversity . Its a System that starts at the infinitely small and gets as big as the galaxies and beyond. Let it be and it will let you be . Animals love and live in the moment very easily because they know the other side of life from birth . We have been blinded so we cannot see and cross the bridge to infinity without first living fully and intently. I have another friend ,just another example among many , who has struggled greatly to get past the self recrimination and self punishment. Talk about a spiritual fad surfer . She has done it all . Love her to bits for her courage in doing so though. Anorexic for most of her youth she has had to work damned hard to get beyond the guilt that was dumped on her as a child. People who lay spiritual/sexual guilt trips on others are just passing on what was done to them . Its time to stop that cycle of abuse. Nurse ! Chocolate please and make that a LARGE Banana shake with full cream Milk . Yes I know its Bad for me , that's why I want it. To clarify ,just in case anyone chooses to take Offense , no Offense is intended but if you choose to be offended ,that's you choice. Because Religious and 'spiritual' people love to get offended and use it as an excuse to condemn to hell , those who refuse to 'Believe' in their punishing Dogma's. Fear and dietary restrictions always go hand in hand. I don't care about 'facts and statistics' . I care for (and only refer to ) the people I know personally first hand who suffer for lack of a healthy Diet , whatever that diet consists of. Babies don't deserve to die for Vegan Fundamentalism or suffer Downs syndrome for parental consumption of Junk food. But I also have to respect it is their life and their choice too . I don't storm up to vegans and say 'how can you live on Rabbit food like that ?' I remember though a Hilarious occasion when having just sat down for breakfast at a restaurant , the waiter put down a Hamburger on the table next to us . A Kookaburra swooped down , crash landed on the table and swept off again with the whole Burger in its Mouth . Funniest thing I ever saw . He literally belly landed across the table with his Beak open and Voom , it was gone . To those of you who I have never met in Person I have this to say . Its your life and you have the right to live it as you choose as long as you don't impose your beliefs on others . Period .End of story. No matter how you choose to eat your going to die eventually . If you find 'Killing animals' distasteful , fine ,dont do it . Crawl under a rock with the flesh eating insects and keep your fingers crossed they will respect your boundaries . But down here the sand flies and Mosquito's dont give a damn how big you are . They will go for a free lunch if they can get away with it. Life is movement and change and Evolution. Its not going to stop for your raw vegan lunch break or Fruitarian superiority complex . If you are stupid enough to upset the natural balance by harvesting flesh to extinction instead of respecting the need to maintain biodiversity ,then you are practicing Genocide. Nobody gets off the hook when greed outweighs common sense and reason. If India is such a superior 'Spiritual' country for being a nation of vegetarians why do parents poke out eye's and sever limbs to make their children's Begging more profitable ? Why is there so much chronic poverty, filth and misery ? Answer. Religion. Always Religion. Because poverty concentrates power in the hands of the Few. The caste System in India is every bit as disgusting as that in the UK and the USA. Because all these Class systems were created by Religious organizations. First comes the 'Messiah', then come the laws, then comes the control of energy exchange via money, then come the land titles and control of the resources it provides. Then you have slavery. Its not Rocket science . Its Tyranny Science.  
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Nature is Beautiful -- but when one takes a closer-look Nature is Cruel and Unusual. The Bible is Beautifully-Written and Spiritually-Inspiring -- but when one takes a closer-look the Bible is Cruel and Unusual. Human-Nature is sometimes described as being Fallen and Sinful -- but is Nature and the Bible also Fallen and Sinful?? Lucifer is often blamed for causing all the trouble -- but there is only one reference in the Whole-Bible which specifically-refers to Lucifer -- and this text in Isaiah is regarding the King of Babylon -- without describing Lucifer as being some hideous and horrible creature. God is described in violent, unethical, and unflattering terms throughout the Bible. With a God like that, who needs Lucifer and/or Satan to be a Fall-Guy for all the Murder and Mayhem??!! Religions and Churches are supposed to be Helping Humanity -- but they often seem to be Exploiting and Disempowering Humanity. I have attempted to be Open and Honest regarding This Present Madness -- but I have been Ridiculed, Shunned, Ignored, and Persecuted for my Time and Trouble. The Best-People seem to make the Least-Money -- and the Worst-People seem to make the Most-Money.
    Yes I hear that . Thing is though that until you get in to the thick of it and live close to nature , you wont understand how she works . Religions exist to drive a wedge between you and Nature. The Bible is a guilt ridden, fear mongering  toxic waste heap of contradictions designed to keep you fearful and ignorant .Same with just about any religious text . Its fear porn/propaganda to keep them rich and you poor. If you confront their control mechanism your going to get attacked . Greed fears truth. Nature lives its truth. Religion enslaves man and nature to feed greed . When your eating fruit your a fruitarian , but later that day you may feel like a potato bake at which point you 'sold out' and went Veggie . But the next day after a long hike the craving for meat was so bad you snuck out and ordered a burger and fries . Of course that leads to guilty feelings of  failure and you swear off of meat forever and beg forgiveness. Ashamed and suitably humbled you truck on down to the organic co op and stock up on nuts and grains and whatever the latest diet god says you need to eat to get right . You know what that really is ? Consumer marketed Diet propaganda . Here is the reality. If your marooned on a tropical island your going to eat what you can get. Coconuts ,Fish, fruit and hopefully some edible plant material . You have no choice but to eat whats available if you want to live. And if you got marooned with a beautiful woman and you end up getting pregnant well then your going to have to work  that much harder to feed three mouths.  Coconuts are Boob's on tree's ! Don't say mother nature does not know how to put on a feast with flare and originality . Wild roasted pig if available will eventually be on the menu . But being a small island you will soon learn the limits of what it can and cannot provide without upsetting the balance . Same when you grow organic in your own garden. My soil grows apple trees really well but Olives, forget it. Tried it ,got root rot. They all died. Attention seekers always take offense where none was given because its always about them . So to maximize their hits and indignation they take on as many emotive labels as possible to increase the number of excuses to cry victim. When Diet becomes a Religion instead of a way of being its no longer about nutrition and self respect. Its about feeding the ego through ritual, self denial and moral grandstanding . My position is no position so refusing the labels I am called disruptive , predatory etc . Well if it justifies starving yourself and misleading the innocent to build your case you must accept the consequences .Including the deaths of malnourished innocents forced to eat Vegan before they are old enough to make their own decisions. It does not matter if you drive a car , use a chainsaw or cross the road . Get it wrong and your going to hurt yourself and others too ,potentially. If your a Vegan you will take personal offense at any criticism from anyone who questions your faith. When you ignore or walk away from someone who has narcissistic insecurities , same problem . Its like gay people who get angry at bisexuals for 'wavering' and betraying their gay brothers and sisters ! What ? You scream for equal gay rights then deny them to those who are not 'of the faith' ? Absurd . End 'carnism' the Vegans scream . Well you cant have that law without consequences that will negatively impact you. Im sorry but I dont buy that tosh about being Vegan making you more 'spiritual'. How can it when the spirit is not flesh . Are Dolphins, a favorite of the new age spiritual crowd , less than you in spirit ? Hardly . A vegan once asked me to be a surrogate Father for her. Turns out she was incapable of bearing children. Her diet had damaged her reproductive organs to much . Very sad. Now there were many contributing factors there but the result was nonetheless the same. Many female victims of sexual abuse choose not to have children and I respect that . Often when they do ,the trauma's they suffered rise to the surface and their ability to parent naturally is dangerously impaired. Seen it many times. These are people I know personally. One on one ,in the flesh , face to face , hugging and kissing personally. Not casual acquaintances on line personally. There is a Heart breaking story in the Independent Newspaper about a couple who raised their kids vegan until they could no longer ignore their children frantically gnawing on a packet of Butter in the super market ! and attacking any chicken that they could get their hands on and eat . Vegan Parents have lost custody of their children because they refused to listen to their doctors orders to feed them a balanced diet. Children have died from vegan diet. That's just crazy irresponsible and selfish . Okay , cut the meat to a minimum if you must and restrict the dairy if you can get away with it but if you cant get the quality balanced fresh food necessary to make Vegan work you have to compromise. Life is compromise. Relationships are compromise . You cant take a knife to a gun fight and expect to survive . If someone said to me "BR your a bloody fence hopping hypocrite for not going full Carnivore" that would be stupid Right ? Of course it is . And what the hell makes any human here think they are more spiritual then the rest of the natural world ? Please ! If only they reached parity it would be progress. Now let me be frank . I dont like to see any creature suffer unduly but animals are lucky . They have much shorter average life spans so they get to come back in young healthy bodies way quicker than us poor arthritic , bone creaking wrinkly humans . So why do you all have to make such a big deal out of it ? Death IS evolution. Death is the way of life . Its not the end , its the beginning . I have had a gun stuck in my face and said "do it" . If its my time , its my time. Sure I may not be ready to go yet in terms of the love I bear for my family but infinity is nothing to fear. Now or later your going to have to face separation but if the love is true you will find it again next time around .Its the ultimate compass ,true love. It always finds the way. Your all so Convinced of your spiritual credentials yet you cling to your bodies with the desperation of a child to its teddy bear. You make death sound like a prison sentence when its just a very short passage to complete liberation from pain and suffering for a while. If any of you had AUTHENTIC experience of OBE ,you would know that to be true, Not just Believe it or boast about it . Oh thank god (sorry ,did I say God) for that . Galactic federation of light ! Yes , well the saving game is always about empty promises and any church you care to mention will happily put in a good word .Empty Promises put butts on Pews .Or at least they used to . Sorry to hear about your fleet getting destroyed mate . We always told those guys at GFL to upgrade their Shields but they insisted on the retro hubcap look and failing to move with the times , the result was inevitable. Crap name for an armada anyway . To wishy washy , Like Ashtar command . Talk about your fake tan telly sales scam. You can open the cage door for a human but they rarely come out of their own accord . To much like taking responsibility for your own happiness. Caged animals go through severe withdrawal symptoms when they are freed but once their genetic instincts kick in they are usually fine . Humans ,not so good. GMO , a division of GFL . Why am I not surprised. Still , I like the Amen , sorry Neam ,no Name ,that's it . Admiral Swanny of the star corp , a division of GFL Inc. Our battle cruisers now on sale at this incredible one time offer ! Not available in any store , hurry while stocks last. Call 1800 SUKONTHIS Now ! "Oh captain , is that you on the bridge ?" "Admiral Please ,IF you dont mind " "Love the new uniform" "yes, I had it tailored at the salivation army store" "Nice fit" Love is not love when it exists in a cage . Guilt is what keeps the cage door locked . No more shame, no more self blame. The truth is to easy. Humans expect complicated answers to all their spiritual expectations so they turn away from the simple solution. Locked in the past they do what the church tells them and create a personal hell 'to redeem themselves'. Would you do that to your kids, make them suffer because you had to ? Answer often is YES . Im damned if I should go through hell and you be happy. That is pretty messed up but its how Karma , guilt and all the other ritualized BS keeps you under their thumb . Guilt teaches you Nothing until you reject it entirely . Guilt is just a lame excuse for wallowing in self pity or giving up on yourself . Guilt drives hate drives denial drives murder of the soul. Guilt is the worm that chews on your heart like , like Oprah on Baked Ham. I am going to have a guilt free breakfast , a guilt free day and a guilt free trip in to town for a guilt free coffee with a friend. Maybe get some guilt free love while i am there. Truly BR ? Yes ,guilty as charged. In the meantime, My unlimited love to you all , if you can handle the big one. La Cage aux Folles. The bird cage. Pavo is latin/italian for bird. Its related to the word Pavilion. A sheltered area . Bird in the pavilion is a euphemism/metaphor for the Pineal gland in the exact focal point center of your skull. Accident ? Hardly. When we are love lorn and lonely we Pine dont we ? We pine for the Fjords. We pine for love. But if we are trapped in a cage and cannot fly away we are force fed a diet of seeds and any other sh*** our captor feeds us. Not much of a life really . A dead Parrot nailed to its perch. Ever made that connection between the Parrot sketch and Life of Brian ? Make a little love , do a little dance, get down tonight..........F***ing and feasting in freedom. Its what brings joy to hearts in bodies. Why fight it ? Why feel guilty about it ? More fool you for towing the company line . Guilt never gave me an Orgasm . What happens to priests who are not allowed to f***. They molest innocent children instead. Yeah ,like that's real natural Jesus. Often when i post my thoughts they are not directed at anyone in particular , unless I address them by name . Pavi Lion . The bird and the cat . Appropriate image with apple blossoms for a crown . When Orpheus journeyed in the under world ,Ariadne gave him a golden thread so that he could find his way back ,not get lost . There is nothing more sad than pulling someone out of there only for them to run back to the dark . The first Journey in to the under world is often referred to as entering the lions Den Via his Mouth . The lion is a guardian and only allows those who are worthy to enter . Cats are rarely fooled by lies and liars never care for the stare of cats. But what has this got to do with Diet ? Everything. Because we are what we eat and food is powerful stuff. People who live with guilt and shame are lying to themselves as well as others. Nailed to the perch they parrot words to appease the crowd . Norwegian blue parrots stun very easily. Starved of life and freedom ,forced to eat whats given them . Pretty Polly gets another cracker and does the dirty work for his/her paymaster. Alladin sane . The genie in the lamp is the pineal Gland . Activated by sunlight . Pineal is an anagram of Alpine. Pineapple's look like pine cones. When the pine cone opens it releases seeds. Appell means to call together . Roll call . Music is the food of love . Play on. There we go again ,stealing the moral high ground . Nature is not listening to you though and its not likely to start any time soon . If it was not for corpse eaters like crows and vultures ,hot country's like India would stink to high heaven of rotting flesh and cholera/plague and other epidemics would be rife . So tell me , Why don't radical vegan's call themselves herbivores and graze outside like serious plant eaters ? maybe they don't have the stomach to take their religion seriously. How many microscopic bugs and bacteria do you eat when you chew on a plant leaf or fruit ? Ever looked at one under a microscope ? No I doubt it. Bacteria are the only reason you get away with eating what you do . And since all 'flesh' is composed of tiny cells/bacteria in one big sack, whats the difference ? There is no such thing as 100% vegan/vegetarian. But if you feel superior to the rest of nature by eating only plant corpses ,be my guest. And one final thought. The only difference between Blood and Chlorophyll is this. Blood has an iron Ion in its molecular structure. Chlorophyll (plant blood) has a magnesium Ion . That's all . So the logical inescapable conclusion is that all life evolved from the same simple single celled organisms, plant and flesh. Its called the circle of life . Cow eats grass . Cow dies and its corpse gets eaten by crows ,worms and people. People Die and get buried which feeds the worms which fertilize the grass. Cow eats Grass......Simple enough for you to grasp ? Probably not. And there you have it .A small minority pushing their religion on the rest of nature . Its a good job nature ignores their Sh** and cleans up after them anyway. If your sincere in your condemnation of carnivores , Why do you like cats and dogs and dolphins and every other gift of mother nature ? Where is the consistency in your arguments ? There are none ,so you resort to slander and sneering ,demeaning comments . How very democratic and non judgmental of you . The last word is not mine or yours or any one else's on this thread. The last word is evolution baby .If you cant cope with evolution ,go to a desolate rock on some other distant planet and see how long you can stomach hydroponic lettuce in a plastic dome. You wont last long trust me . Lentil Soup tastes just like Chicken soup . NOT. Lentils are about as tasty as cardboard , unless you add chicken/ broth. Then I can eat lentil soup. But nothing beats the taste of Spam. Spam ,spam,spam,spam................. If I was starving to death and someone offered me Lentil soup I would say "Christ haven't you got ANYTHING else ?" Austerity sucks . Your right. Its absolutely pointless. But when your living a pointless life, chowing down on boring veggie food and denying your body what it really wants , it all turns in to a huge navel gazing exercise. Sure there are veggies who just dont make a big deal out of it and that I can cope with . But when you get the big long boring lecture with all the New age guff about evolving to a higher plane by abstaining I just want to fire up the barbie and slap the biggest bloodiest steak I can find on it and crack a pack . Next time my cat catches a cute fluffy bunny wunny I am going to post a picture of it hanging from my Killer Pet's maw ! Get real people . The SH has already hit the Fan anyway so it wont be long till that barge rat looks real tasty . If you want to know how such a small band of communists gained control of Russia ,the answer is simple. They withheld so much food from people that they were starved in to submission . Hunger will drive people to despair quicker than you can say Chicken soup. Or Coq au Vin . Or Veggie Burger. Specify the cat before you put it on the menu Swanny , because size does matter and the hunter often becomes the hunted . Especially when chasing the game from a wheelchair. UNLESS of course your wheelchair is a Cheshire cat and punts for Cambridge. If on the other hand it tastes like chicken and looks like chicken then somebody finally came up with a half decent tofu. Much easier on the dentures . Its a funny old world and you gotta laugh Guv . No matter what the menu , and who's credit card flashes. Even the waiter knows your eventually dust and ashes. Still its always worth asking for a doggie bag. For the cat of course .
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    orthodoxymoron wrote:I don't know where this is going. Probably nowhere. Perhaps I should continue with my Blue Roller Download. I should probably somehow converse with forum members but I have no idea who they are or who I am. Watching documentaries and accident videos might develop my character in unlikely ways. Perhaps nature must take its course in This Present Darkness. I'd still like to see and hear an agency-briefing in a conference-room someday but I'm not holding my breath waiting for hell to get air-conditioned. Ignorance might be relative-bliss. The Whole-Truth might be REALLY Bad. I'd like to write something for publication but I have no idea what might be proper and beneficial. I have no idea how to proceed. I'm lost in space and cyberspace. I might delete this post (or relocate it). Cheers.


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    Food for thought. Heavy water is a by product of ammonia production. Ammonia used for Artificial fertilizer and explosives. A Scandinavian invented TNT . The reason agriculture is driven by Ammonia from petro Chem is so that they can provide heavy water for nuclear reactors and warheads. Its a closed loop of the war machine. That's why corporate agriculture is destroying the planet. Its dysfunctional symbiosis . In the end ,this madness is burning the soil ,the air and everything else . So its far wiser to let animals fertilize the soil with their guano than try to feed the world with closed loop vegan gardens that assume you can just plant stuff together and it will fertilize itself ! No, its not that simple .You need diversity to maintain diversity . In Australia ,Rabbits have to be controlled or they would eat everything and lay waste to huge areas of productive land. But if you want a lap full of fluffy wuffy then maybe its time to grab that bunny by the ears and put him in the pot before he eats out your garden plot. Seriously. Rats have their place as long as they don't get out of hand . Same as any other creature . Humans are out of hand at the moment ,way out of hand. A plague upon your houses ! Rabbit tastes a lot like Chicken. Tofu still tastes like congealed toothpaste though . I hate Soy unless its fermented soy sauce . During the depression in Australia ,Rabbits were what kept many people alive . So you know ,I like rabbits . Great food source in hard times. Rabbit pie . Yum. Nothing beats the taste of wild game . So much tastier . You know whats really good to eat in NZ ? Possum . Amazing flavor because they eat only the highest quality wild plants and leaves . Fresh young shoots full of vitality . But dont worry , They are an invasive non native Plague in NZ . Like Goats, Pigs and Deer . Its a massive job keeping the numbers in check . When the SHTF in NZ there will be plenty to hunt and eat . No worries. Time was when we were all wild . Wild and free. Now though all the land is fenced in like the humans. Less Intelligent ? Developed Consciousness ? Are you telling me YOU know better than Mother earth ? The whole of nature ? That's not intelligence ,that's arrogance . Is death harming living beings ? Is it immortality you want ? If nature did it your way the planet would die and you with it. You cant have it both ways. You condemn those who eat meat , but not plant flesh right ? Okay ,plants are living conscious beings . Yes they are . They breath , they reproduce ,they die, just like you and me . But you think your better than them ? More conscious ? I don't think so. How often do plants Kill ? They do kill you know. How often do people get struck by lightning and die ? It happens. Must be god doing some 'Karma' on someone. Or maybe its a Volcano/tsunami wiping out thousands of women and children in one fell swoop. You admit death happens yet admonish nature for allowing it occur ! Why do you fear Death if you are so sure of your spiritual evolution ? Why does death threaten you ? Especially if you believe in reincarnation . Humans more conscious . Would that it were true. Behind every self righteous Preacher there is usually a corrupt power hungry fiend . Never have I said I wish to harm or hurt any living creature willfully and consciously but sadly, realistically, our bodies must be fed by living matter of some kind in order for the cycles of life to continue. If you have a problem with that ,take it to whichever god/s you worship. Don't expect a quick reply though. When Buddha achieved enlightenment the first thing he did was EAT . He realized that punishing the body, starving it, was not the way . Where every other living species eats only what it needs to live , HUMANS only, take more than required .They steal from each other ,starve each other , enslave each other , and you call it 'greater consciousness' ? You have to be kidding me. For those who say from the heart they don't like to eat meat I say nobody is denying you that choice as long as you can accept that others need to. You are not qualified to judge them and you presume to much . Only psychopaths enjoy killing . If you saw a child starving in your neighborhood and it asked for meat ,would you deny that child ? Compassion does not carry those kinds of condition . Starving children WILL eat just about anything and who are we to judge them for that ? You make it sound like meat eaters are voracious killers . Yes, factory farming and slaughter houses are horrific because they are inhumane ,I agree with you there . Death and Killing does hurt . Love can hurt , hate can hurt, kindness can kill . But in the face of eternity and our Immortal souls, its not the end, so I refuse to dwell on what cannot be changed and work on what can be improved. When Buddha was close to death he left his body as anyone who has been there long enough will testify . I have 'died' and come back many times now. So have we all . Its okay . Anyone who has died (NDE) will tell you when they were revived that they overcame their fear of death and found peace. They realized that their true essence is not physical . No matter what form life takes , its conscious and in a state of enlightenment you realize to your amazement that we really are all one and the same thing. In the end, though I have said a whole bunch here the only point I am trying to make is this. Fear of death and hate is the absence of love . Attachment leads to suffering . We are attached to the illusions of flesh . It took me a long time to experience that truth but I dont think that makes me better than anyone else . I just feel sad to watch others suffer . Love alleviates and heals suffering but only if its accepted . Many ,many years ago now I ended a relationship because I knew it would lead to her suffering way to much. So I had to walk away. She has never forgiven me for that though and still harbors hate towards me. Who was right ? Me for avoiding her being rejected by her entire family or her for surrendering to hate and marrying a man she did not love ? That's the tragic part . To often we punish when we should forgive .We hate because we did not get the love on our terms. In another instance later I had the same issue arise BUT in this case my beautiful GF was able to forgive me and went on to find lasting happiness with a really great guy . Its choice. Love or hate. I can still talk to her and she is happy and at peace . That's wonderful. Food is energy. Life takes energy to sustain . No sunlight ,no plant growth , No water , no life at all . It an amazing dream this experience called physical Life but its finite . Energy is not .Nor is consciousness. That's what peace is , the knowledge of that . I look forward to dying now . Strange to reach that place but I know whats on the other side and I am growing impatient . The only thing that keeps me here is not money or possessions. Just the two people I love the most .My family. That's it. It took a lifetime to get to know the pleasure of living just in the moment but without the journey the end would not mean anything. The angels don't think of themselves as gods , they just know love is the answer and the rest is just words really. Sorry Burgundia , but that has got to be the lamest excuse I have heard yet . Are you seriously telling me your cat is possessed by Satan ? Are you telling me that every carnivore has canines because the devil put them there ? Do you need to exorcise your cat before feeding time ? maybe put some garlic around his neck to ward off the evil eye. No , Im sorry . You can apply Satan to human behavior to a degree maybe , but not Nature . I dont see Cats with machine guns cutting down mice in a dark alley wearing Gucci suits and dark sunglasses. "I'm gonna make you an offer you cant refuse Mickey" So let me get this straight .Cows are of the one true god and anything that eats meat is of the devil because of a ringed planet in the outer solar system ? Is that the best answer you can give ? I mean even the catholic church is not that desperate. So lets put the shoe on the other foot . Do plants think that plant eaters are evil and of the devil ? Is there a plant devil out there tempting plants to consume flesh ? Must be Uranus . Vegans say as an excuse that they always bless their food before they eat it . But they still eat it. Last rights lettuce ! Any last requests before I eat you ? "I dont want to be chewed by a human covered in salad dressing even if it is extra virgin " To late green freak , your goin' down and your tomato buddies too. What about all those plant eating veggie bugs with their razor sharp teeth , like caterpillars and leaf eating ants ? Are they plant Satan's little helpers ? I mean how far down the Rabbit hole of implausible excuses do we have to go ? I love my Tree's and my plants . I love the herb tree's too. But when I take a snip of rosemary for dinner it does not die of fright . Rosemary grows thicker and stronger when you prune it and trim it. My fruit tree's know they are on to a good deal. I pamper them rotten with mulch and seaweed and water them when its dry. Talk about spoiled rotten. You may argue its not intentional but it is . Your eating . Nothing unintentional about it at all . You eat and you take life . Billions of microscopic bugs and bacteria dissolve in your stomach acid along with the Greens and nuts and fruit. Its hell down there ! So really what you are saying is that we are all Satan's children along with all of nature and need to be punished eternally ? Well worry no more , we are being punished . Does that make you feel better knowing we suffer ? because I don't. No , I don't buy that. Its a choice between love and hate ,that's all. Not Cow Satan's herbivorous molars grinding the innocent blades of grass for all eternity and stewing them pitilessly in not one stomach but two . Damn you Cow Satan and all your lumbering herd of Veggie biters ! Have you no pity ? Talk about surreal. You know why I keep coming back to this thread ? Because I am just gob smacked at the absurdity of it . Its like a script out of Monty Python . An Amazing act of grace occurs for any creature in a body when it faces death . Its called shock and I know because I have been in a near fatal accident . This is what happens. For maybe a minute at the most I was in extreme pain yes , at which point a voice inside me said the pain will be gone in a moment and it did even though I had broken bones and was covered in road rash . Shock is natures pain killer and it kicks in so you experience no pain . In fact I felt real joy and when the ambulance turned up I was laughing and joking . Now at this point of course shock can and does kill because you are facing the choice to live or die and the body is waiting for you to decide. By the time I got to the hospital the Doctor asked if I was in pain and I was fine , just a slight numbness . I made a conscious choice to live because at that point I realized for the first time that my Wife really REALLY loved me . I could not leave her. Love stopped me dying that day and I made a remarkable recovery. I should have died and indeed I had a premonition the week before that I would. A part of me wanted to because I did not think I could heal my wife's deep wounds . I was to deeply wounded by her wounds and felt only despair. That day forced us both to a realization . Is that bad ? No , I don't think so . Strangely though , if it was not for that NDE I would not have had the massive breakthrough. We admitted to ourselves and each other that we had a reason to live . Each other. A little later My wife had a ridiculous NDE car accident and saw someone in front of her fly out of her soft top car and land in a field narrowly missing her and certain head on collision ! Only in facing death did my life shift and the OBE's begin . The fantastic lucid dreams and the ET contact . So for those of you that think that death ,pain and suffering should be avoided at all cost I would say yes, you can make that choice , but your life will be Dull, dull, dull. The devil will wrap you in cotton wool and give you anything to keep you asleep. He is compliance and political correctness . He is the safe boring partner who rides the TV remote . The Wife who obsseses about every ones opinions and refuses to have fun anymore. Nature, if you observe it closely rides by the seat of its pants . Birds will play dare /chicken by flying perilously close to whizzing cars . They will do crazy stuff for the shear hell of it . I have seen older chickens surrender to a fox instead of run for their life . They are ready to die so they crouch down and its over in a split second . Nature only appears cruel because most humans are so detached from life . Teenage Boys do suicidal things because they instinctively know its what makes them grow . You can run from fear , but you cant hide . Face it and you grow stronger . All life is a trial run for the next . Its okay to let go. Its okay if you loose this round early .Only the good die young .So true. Death is scary but imprisonment far worse . My biggest dread is loss of freedom. Always has been. Prison films make me angry as hell. Visiting a convict jail in Australia just is the most painful thing I have ever experienced . I cant bear to see people trapped. It hurts . To me ,death is the welcome exit if freedom is lost. I think we are on Burgundia's Menu Swanny . Better change my undies and freshen up. Do you think he would prefer the red lipstick or the coral Pink? I'm thinking something casual but not to slutty , maybe a leopard print handbag with the gold rimmed Gucci sunglasses. If your gonna get eaten by words , may as well go down with a fake ID . I do love giving people surprises. So you want me to keep it brief Burger ? Okay. Love is trust. Hate is Betrayal. Love gives , Hate steals . Hate conquers and enslaves. Love Free's the soul from the illusion of flesh. Love Lives and speaks from experience , not second hand, recycled, fear based Dogma. That's the difference between you and me. I bare my soul, you put it in a box called flesh. I speak of what I know , you speak from Saturn's rings ...or is it Uranus? Whatever. If your so deep, how come your replies are so shallow ? I gave a lot of thought to this post because its a really thoughtful and good one .I tried to start answering it in those long posts I just did . I suppose the point I am trying to get to is this. At a quantum level we are everything .The plant ,the soil, the insects and the grass. Many who have experienced tribal initiations speak of becoming one with all life . At that point we consume ourselves to experience ourselves in as many ways as imaginable . My Mentor once said to me that I must not under any circumstances artificially open the third eye using drugs or whatever . Without the Journey , the destination will not be authentic . You cannot steal the crown ,you must earn it through humility. He also said that you must experience a willingness to risk your life before you get the big message . You have to be ready for that eye opener or it will drive you insane . I wake up in the morning and see beauty everywhere in nature. I see life that does not fear death . I see now what I could not before .But I had to die before it could happen. Nature always acts with mercy and the crossing from life to death is anesthetized . I had bones poking out of my leg yet felt no pain in that accident . I was raw flesh ground to the bone in places . But because in the moment I surrendered to the prospect of dying and did not fight it , paradoxically I was spared and reborn a different man .I really was. I chose to live this life as consciously as possible ,not just a wage slave 9 to 5 drone. We are not our bodies .I know that . But that does not mean we cannot enjoy them and savor the experience. You cant just write about life and read about it and say 'that's the truth' because someone famous said so . Until you have experienced truth its just theory /empty words. You learn to play an instrument (your body) by practice. Just blowing on the end will not make music. Well Sanicle , I like to engage people in depth when they have depth to give . But if a person is heavily invested in religion or Dogma or any kind of fanatical devotion that to me is an ego that needs taking down a peg. A very aussie thing as I am sure you would know. I dont mind admitting I am conflicted on diet . All I can say is that the higher the quality of your home grown food , the less you need to supplement with meat . Organic meat is something I need but not to much . Dairy ,Organic preferably , I have to have . My bone density is way higher than average and I need to keep it well stocked up . But i take a very hands on experimental approach to diet in depth because I need the energy levels to go lucid dreaming and O of B. Had a really exceptional one a few nights ago. I lead two lives in parallel so before I go out I have to build enough reserves . I work out hard on duty so I have to consume a lot of bio available fast conversion protein . If I dont im in trouble. I certainly dont condone boiling live chicks in their shells and I dont condone allowing any living thing to suffer. But where they can make it work I can respect and admire Veggie diet . Its a touchy subject though. The thing I would point out is that I have NEVER EVER seen hate in any animals eye's . Fear ,wonder ,love, humor, curiosity, devotion, and so on yes. But never hate or jealousy or greed . That to me says a lot about the human condition. So I take great exception to anyone who demonizes animals no matter what their diet . Actually ,tell a lie , my cat sometimes gets a tad jealous when I snuggle with my wife but its only a a fleeting thing. I work very hard to build up the soil health of my trees and plants with seaweed and trace minerals. We are on volcanic clay with great top soil too so we are very fortunate . It makes a huge difference to my families health along with our free range chickens which we adore . Our cat guards them along with the wild birds. I talk to everything living in or visiting our garden . Wild birds ,echidna's , everything. They love it . Walk in to any native bush and you see wild nature gardening. The running Lizards in our gully are a marvel to watch and they love to watch us too . I dont Hunt because I dont need to , but I would if a had to to feed my family in a serious economic downturn . I would have no hesitation . But never for pleasure . Its easier in our western economy to source veggie but for many third world economies ,meat becomes an essential part of survival along with goat/cow milk. I think we need to respect that. I love food .Spicy ,savory, French ,Italian, Spanish ,whatever . I use lots of fresh ginger and chilli to keep good circulation and vital organs healthy. Garlic is great stuff. I dont care if Milk does have casa Morphine's in It . When I crave a banana shake ,which is not very often, I just do it. Truth is we do need fat in our diet to maintain good health but it has to be balanced with plenty of fresh greens too. We use tons of lemons from our tree next to the septic tank .I put lemon juice in anything I can think of. Its a great way to marinade meat and tenderize it . The enzymes in lemon juice break down the bad fats and the extra flavor means you need far less meat . Lemon juice is a great substitute for salt but i like using the Himalayan mountain salt . Tastes very nice. Balanced Diet is very rare for most people. Lots of extremes. We try to steer a middle way. I go with my cravings and enjoy variety . It works for us. Garlic works wonders for inflamed joints and tissue repair . I could talk for hours about this stuff. Do I know why I am here ? Yes ,very much so . More than you can imagine judging by the anger and bitterness in your response and your condescending attitude. Its called freedom of speech . But if that offends you then your in the wrong forum. Swanny ? I don't know Swanny from adam or eve and I dont have anything invested in Swanny . You however seem to need adulation and deference. Something I dont give unless its earned. In the real world. Nobody listening eh ? Why would you need to make that put down comment ? You have your opinions. I have my experience in the real world. You have what you want, I have what I want . So why so bitter ? I always ask someone who comes on at me like this the following question but they NEVER answer . 'Why are you so angry and unhappy ?' I dont presume to answer the question for you . Your life , your choices. Just dont expect meek submission when you IMPOSE your beliefs on others . Its called Tyranny and it never goes down well with real people. Only fanatics deal in absolutes . I shall no longer reply to any of your input so save your self the bother of trying to troll me. I know how passive aggressive assassins work. But sometimes you have to dance with them before they play their cards unfortunately . And they hate it when you ignore them so much that they accuse you of doing things to hurt them even when you shut the door and refuse to answer. Hate is not unique different or special, its the main currency of humanity. They speak it,eat it, live it and throw it around to keep it going. Because they live off of it. The only thing I am arguing for is an honest relationship with nature, not a deal with the Devil. Because the Devil WANTS YOU to hate him. He feeds on it. You empower him with it. Hate is the absence of love. No amount of righteous Veg diet will fill that emptiness . You cant steal the moral high ground and deny the one thing you need to hold it justly. Love. Post on any forum for any length of time and you see group/herd think. After a while the genuine free thinkers get routed by the cowardly consensus because fear of abandonment and isolation from the herd outweighs sanity. Even now the ranks are closing and the poor me mentality is the excuse. Run with the herd you can . But eventually the fear that drives it will lead you to a well fenced prison. Most food comes from farms. Most farms are fenced to keep in stock and keep out unwanted feeders . Farms are really no different to concentration camps. Barbed wire , strict regimes , an inbred autocratic farmer dictating to the animals he enslaves for profit. Its the perfect metaphor for a book called Animal Farm. Except the real victims on this farm are Humans . Before Jesus Hit Europe and turned free people in to Flocks of sheep to be herded , tribal land was shared and worked for mutual benefit of all , not the few . Before the Brahmin's carved up India in to fiefdoms and created the caste system , India would have been the same. Before the pilgrim fathers invaded America and fenced in Indian lands , the native Americans lived in harmony with all life. Where do you get your food ? never mind for a moment what your chosen diet is. Where ? from a farm ? Probably . Most likely . So your eating the products of stock enslavement ,land enslavement and you are enabling slavery which is technically and actually Illegal in most countries. I am surrounded by farms with barbed wire fences. The fence is to keep in the cows , but also to keep OUT the native wildlife such as Kangaroos that eat the farmers Grass . I refuse to put barbed wire on our fences for that reason , so the wildlife can eat our grass anytime they like. Our humble block has become an oasis because nature is welcome , not excluded . Thousands of kangaroo's die each year when they jump over a fence and get their legs caught in barbed wire . Its a cruel slow death . I hate barbed wire . Its a symbol of imprisonment. It is imprisonment. The cabal that controls this planet does so through fear and intimidation . Religion is their main tool. Start any sincere movement for change and they will infiltrate it and corrupt it. Herd mentality is the subject of Orwell's book 1984 . Who dares to put animal life above plant life in sanctity ? Plant life is the foundation of all other life . Consume plants uncontrolled and the whole system collapses . We should humbly thank all life for allowing us to co exist with it . Not vaunt ourselves above it . Fanatics crave hierarchy so they can be part of it . They seek empowerment through enslavement instead of sharing. They love to stand in Judgement and ridicule those who dare to speak honestly . They sneer ,jeer , and steal through hypocrisy, the righteous way and all behind a mask of 'good intentions'. The road to hell . And in case you had not noticed , your already on it. Is it any wonder so few humans get meaningful lasting contact from ET civilizations . Contact should humble you and it does , but earth humans don't like being humble. They like being the man in charge with their rules and their religions and their socially superior dietary habits. Ignore the the truth of balanced life you can . But when life is out of balance it dies and you will die with it . Unloved ,unrespected and ungrieved for . Your planet will be your gravestone and a sober warning to all those who embrace greed and refuse to be honest. The circle of life is obvious to those who live with nature and see all life as equal . I think you know that Sanicle . But most are behind the fence and do not see that fighting over rules keeps the rules enforceable . They end up asking for the freedom to be dominated . The irony is lost on them. It does not matter which bird you back in the cockpit . Even if you take home the winnings the fight was misdirection and the money is soon spent on tax and rent . No such thing exists in Natures realms. I see people trading 'friendship and loyalty' on line in a rigged Casino . The internet is now their distraction from the monotony of jail time . The mother net is being destroyed and the epitaph when this planet is turned in to a gravestone will be ; We never listened because we already Knew and 'god' was with us until the end . Being the biggest fish in a tiny bowl is small comfort when your heart and soul are withered away by hate . I don't come here for favors Sanicle and this planet is not my home . Most animals that are farmed can be returned to the natural world and their instincts kick in . But with so many fences physical, psychological and electromagnetic, the circle of life is dying . Food choice without freedom is no choice at all . Replacing one hierarchy with another just perpetuates the hate and polarizes the mind . Jail time and worst of all ,solitary confinement, does terrible things to the mind of a person . No longer able to socialize , the victim swings between love and hate . fear and need. Trust is long gone and hard to regain. Example. Ex friend of mine here in Oz . Massive health /fitness nut . Omnivore .Eats lots of meat and fish and hot on the latest fad diet . Used to be big in to Chili peppers . So one day I ask this person ' got any more of that awesome chilli paste you made ?' 'Oh no ' she says 'I dont eat anything like that anymore ' 'Why so ?' 'Its a member of the deadly nightshade family !' So that's it. Because she read that somewhere on line she now believes tomato's , potatoes ,chilli etc are poison too ! Sub text to this person is she was raised Mormon so we are talking inter generational sexual abuse as SOP. MPD as well . Like all MK ultra women she was sterilized before going operational and in denial about her barren state . End result , a tortured soul broken by the most extreme abuse possible. Now she punishes herself in Cross fit Gym's . The latest body killing exercise fad where people push until they throw up without warming up and lift weights without the proper training to do it safely . Before MK ultra it was just called Catholicism , or puritanism or whatever blind faith you were brought up in . This is what I see day in day out when I meet people . The staggering cost of self hate trying to redeem itself through more self punishment.
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    Has anyone read Job to Isaiah and Luke to Jude straight-through, over and over in the NIV Reader's Bible?? What are the implications and ramifications?? What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say?? What if a website (not necessarily this one) with a dozen foundational forum-members were really just one member pretending to be randomly-diverse?? We Are All ONE?? What if sixty-six books of the Bible were really written by just one soul pretending to be randomly-diverse?? What if multiple-personalities were involved in all the above?? What if ancient to modern artificial-intelligence were involved in all the above?? Imagine how many variations on this theme might be possible!! What if God is a Composite?? This thing might be more complex than anyone can imagine!! The more I think about it, the more I think I probably need to write a short, simple, yet profound book without all the craziness of my many threads. It might be easier that way. My threads are NOT for the General-Public. They're probably not even for me. I've requested guidance which has not been forthcoming. In fairness, I've openly and repeatedly stated that my threads are mostly Religious and Political Science-Fiction for the worthy. I require a Few Good-Geniuses with Photographic-Memories who probably read a Book a Day!! I'm just the opposite but I know of people (and other than people) who are highly-qualified!! Here is more of that Blue Roller Download!!

    How does a Mother or Father recognize the difference between their identical twins ? No matter how exact the copy , its the soul that animates the features, the smile , the timbre of the voice . That is how you can tell the difference. The most vital factor that animates a 'copy' is the soul signature. Bodies do no animate souls. Souls animate Bodies . Bodies are easy to create but without a soul , its dead flesh. No driver , no movement. If you were born by natural reproductive means your body is a 50/50 copy of your parents Genes , plus whatever your souls brings to that body . Its a vehicle , just like a car is a vehicle. The beauty of natures system is that if the child is conceived in a state of deep love between the mating couple ,that love will imprint deeply in the DNA of the child and give it a much stronger head start over a child conceived in lust or rape. Just because your neighbor happens to drive the same year ,same model of car does not make that person Evil. Unless your a purist who likes to think they deserve to be Unique ,different and special. Cloning does not cheat death. Only the soul cheats death. Cloned bodies still die. In fact they generally suffer shorter , not longer life spans . The lack of love being a critical factor. Without Love ,the copying of bodies is degenerative as is in breeding , another method of closed loop copying. If the master Copy is preserved though and appropriate measures in place , cloning can allow a soul to rinse and repeat . But far better to allow the clone to be born through conventional means. Then the process of evolution is able to preserve and rebuild what was lost and share its heritage creating non cloned bodies with partners. Such is the Choice Spock faces as a Vulcan. A man who lives in two time lines yet shares the same voice . Do we demonize twins and call them Evil ? Do we demonize IVF ? NO . But certain individuals fail to understand that when a species has been brought to near extinction ,then cloning , sadly is the only way forward. On this world ,where Soul Memory is erased between lives to create the fear of death , often the only recognition left to them is facial recognition. Blinded by hate and fear , most of humanity is unable or willing to feel with or trust their inner voice . Their soul is drowned out by programmed responses and duplicity. They listen to their Guru's ,their priests , their whatever . The cabal is composed of souls who fear not death , but loss of wealth and power . The ability to inherit material wealth is predicated on 'Legitimate issue'. But the father does not want his son or the soul that animates it ,to take whats 'his'. So he tortures him on a Cross , or just before he faces death . Walk in occurs. The father becomes the son and the family cant help noticing the change in the heir to the throne. So to say that cloning is cheating death is largely incorrect and demonstrates ignorance of the facts. All that happens when you make multiple clones of the same body is that you Need multiple souls to animate them ! Soul Identity is beyond Flesh . Facing death and experiencing it while still in flesh is the whole point of Tribal initiation. Beyond the face and the mask , the soul can adopt any number of ID's . But what makes a face handsome or beautiful to behold ? What makes a person fall in love with one twin and not the other ? Why do Twins share such a powerful connection ? The Jewish faith in particular heavily instills fear of extinction when they die. They are told over and over its a one shot deal ,so make the most of it and grab as much wealth as you can, while you can. This tragic lie has enslaved them very effectively for many thousands of years. It is a very materialistic patriarchal culture held together by sexual shame and abuse. All cults are held together by such means. This tragedy is best illustrated by the Film 'A Dangerous Method'. A film that exposes the tragedy of Mind Control and its techniques . Its the story of how Freud tries to set up Carl Jung and use him as a front man to gain wider acceptance of his Psychoanalytic movement . Jung See's the trap for what it is but nevertheless springs the trap to expose Freud and try to heal his victim and tool, Sabina Spielrien. I have been through this procedure a few times myself. Sometimes you can reach past the programming and effect positive change ,sometimes the programming is to strong to break . Its a choice between love and Hate. Spielrien was severely abused by her father and then used by the extended Jewish family to advance their goals. Domination through mind control ,hate fear and shame . Where Freud has largely fallen in to disfavor and his techniques no longer practiced , Jung's pioneering work has inspired countless artists and freed many people from their pain. Given them access to their soul's language. The power to make their own choices free from guilt. Freedom. What makes a person authentic is to be free of any labels that define and confine them . Only you know what you need to be you . No one should dictate to you what brings you fulfillment. Jew or Muslim ? these are not you . YOU are you and only you know the way to free yourself from an identity foisted on you by the selfish . Often a Child will look almost exactly like one parent . Should we burn that child at the stake or assume its the result of some evil agenda ? Its never that simple . Do you love a person because of their 'faith' or nationality ? How can love be limited by such trifles ? Yet those who identify themselves through their faith surrender their conscience and self respect at the door of their Church . They are prisoners. Their mind is not their own . It belongs to those who tell them what to think ,what to feel ,who to marry , where to live and why. Nature copies/divides all the time but with one vital added ingredient . Love and the evolution that flows from it . Is that a rhetorical question ? If not you will need to be specific Carol. What part of my testimony do you wish to bring in to Question ? Or do you not believe love is the defining factor in life and reproduction ? Everything I have stated in this post can be researched if you need verification . Prostitution is not a subject unfamiliar to anybody , nor are the basic principles of cloning and reproduction. Twins happen . Cloning outside of the reproductive system is possible but has many limitations . The real questions is this. If one body exists simultaneously in many times lines is it still a clone ? If time is not linear then the answer can be No . But it can be yes too . What holds the body together ? Who's body will you inhabit when you come back ? Your great Granddaughters ? Or maybe a completely different bloodline ? Its all choice in theory . But supposing your soul's narrative goes back many gens and your heritage in that species was nearly wiped out . What would you choose to do ? Knowing that your soul family was forced in to crippled Hybrids ? Would you walk away or try to rescue them ? If all the souls who shared your bloodline where forced in to bodies that tortured their souls , your children, your parents ,your lovers . What would you be prepared to do ? Do YOU have the courage to answer that simple question ? Yes or No ? How would you feel when ,having passed over ,you found your grandchildren were being sexually/psychologically abused ? Their karma ? Or your duty to help ? Good question . How do you tell if your car is sentient or has AI ? Okay that's not the best example. The simple answer and I'm sure you know this , is to look in their eye's . They will be cold and their ability to smile warmly non existent . Very hard to fake a warm smile because it activates all the fascial muscles in harmony and balance . No soul , no warmth . Ever been treated to a fake smile by a car salesman ? Ever been smiled at by a liar ? Life and love is a warm feeling that brings peace . That's the best test . Don't demonize cloning outright though because its not that simple . Androids are not technically speaking clones but the physical resemblance can be exact to the last detail and still not feel right . The soul gives the body an energy signature that another soul can feel electromagnetically . The modulation/complexity in its frequency is dynamic and responsive in a way that drones cannot keep up with because the soul signature is authenticated by the Mothers . Does that make sense ? Its the same as how you can recognize your children in a vast crowd . What you call a Clone ,we call a Drone. That's the technically more accurate description . Drones operate on a very narrow part of the electromagnetic spectrum so they are glitchy . They can be hacked , smoked and disabled easily . A strong soul can disable a drone with a strong stare . Cold eye's ,cold heart . No heart. Human souls are full spectrum quantum singularities. Authentic ones . That's why you get the intensity of feeling that a mannequin cant give . You , your soul ,not your body , is here, there and everywhere . Its not a localized phenomenon. Love is much more than remembered anniversaries and valentines day. Its the carrier wave of all consciousness . It is life. I thought you were rather partial to the 'we are not our bodies' rap Sanicle . I really like my body and it works really well for the kind of life I live and the kind of work I do . Are you happy with yours ? I sense disappointment. Having said that I like going out of body and I accept that bodies don't have an unlimited shelf life. Sure I can incarnate in to other types of body if I want to and I have . I used to incarnate in to much taller bodies than this one but this body works well for this planet and its higher gravity. Its a practical choice partly but its also my heritage and its keep alive the DNA of the first advanced humanoid species so Yes ,kinda old school on that one. Its a Nordic thing. We don't believe in 'gods' but we know how to party. And sure ,your free of physical ailments and pain when you die which is nice , but sooner or later your going to miss smelling air and tasting food and making love. So many humans hate their bodies ! Such a shame and a waste of precious opportunity . Bodies are so expressive and fun when you actually make full use of them . Maybe you should try incarnating as a raptor to get the feel of something different Sanicle but you will have to harden up a bit if you want to experience that culture ! and if your soul does not have a raptor heritage you wont fit in to well. Not to mention the species prejudice you will have to endure from neurotic self righteous humans who think they are so tasty. Cant believe how pathetic and Victim minded Humans are sometimes. Especially western democratic judeo Christian ones . Its a non stop pity party of stealing one minute and crying wolf the next . Don't worry ,I am evolving and rebuilding my genetic heritage to boot . Its partly why I am here and I have a few bastards roaming the planet and getting on with their lives. Yes , I know that probably shocks most humans monogamous sensibilities but at least my kids are making a difference instead of leaching off the system. If its on the Ledger and makes life a little better I don't mind throwing an Oliver Twist in the works. Pragmatic Women are always looking for a leg up on the DNA evolution curve . Always happy to serve , for a Lady. That's Fine Admiral . If you prefer being the product of a tuppeny Knee Trembler behind the dog and goat or a fast and furious down lovers lane in the back of a Mini , who are we to judge ? And if growing up on a council estate in Brixton turns you on , that's fine too . Souls do choose hard routes for Kicks . But the point is that no matter how rough the journey you choose , its love that holds your soul intact while your doing the hard yards. Its all good. I took a very hard road when I left school. Wouldn't change any of it. Good point Admiral . Ever been in love Swanny or do you kinda eschew that stuff ? Loving is something you learn by doing . I am very much of the Casanova School when it comes to young love . I was an incurable skirt chaser in my youth and I am not ashamed to admit it. I loved the chase and the girls loved being chased . Its silly to deny that vital part of youth . I see over and over again what happens to those who don't or are not allowed to live their youth in all its crazy vitality and glorious mistakes . Once youth is gone , the opportunity to grow through experience is lost with it and grief turns to bitterness and hate . Religion and social pressures kill to many youthful spirits and cripple them for life . Only experience brings maturity and wisdom to love and loving. But it stays with you once you have savoured the chase and are happy with what you finally caught . Then you can relive the glory days of youth in the subtler moments you share with the one you love . Romeo and Juliet . That play has imprinted deeply in Human consciousness exactly because it deals in profound truth. A truth we all know deep down. Deny love and you deny what makes life Vital. Don't tell me Ladies that you don't envy those who found it to the point of hate . Don't tell me Gentlemen ,that you do not yearn for that one PARTNER WHO TICKS THE BOXES and allows you to be you . When your in Love , the whole world is brighter . Colours more intense , the air smells more sweet and the touch of your lovers skin is heaven itself . Poets know this . When a man falls in love he sings ,he cant help himself. He finally knows what it is to be alive. He no longer cares what his male friends say or do . He becomes himself and they must acknowledge that or loose his friendship . That is true devotion. Some people abuse the word Love .They reduce it to a bargaining chip to be withheld when they don't get their way . That is not love . Religion hates lovers. Hates the loss of control when love usurps their authority. So they invented this sick parody called marriage ceremony. A vulgar display of wealth and social status to try and trump true love. And it works for so many . Marriage takes place when lovers eye's meet and twist together . The knot is tied outside of time . Roger that . You cant buy that experience . I have walked over broken glass and piles of dead bodies for love . And If I have conceived a child under an oak tree in the middle of a thunderstorm knowing I may never see that child, I gave an opportunity to live to some soul with a sense of adventure . I don't know about you Swanny , but I used to make love any time ,anywhere ,anyplace . Hot and sweaty on the jetty , fast and loose in the caboose , ready and able under the nearest table . YES! Life is an adventure and finding a willing partner on the journey makes it all the sweeter. I don't give a F*** who is shocked by it either . I will be back for more ,that's for damn sure. Do you know how many women are not virgin's but never really had sex ? NOTHING matches the intensity of making love . Denial does not make the want go away . I have lost in love too , but I don't regret it . True love regrets nothing. Good stuff Carol . I don't bother to go to rense or any of those other sites anymore . You do all the footwork and cherry pick all the good stuff for me. I think we can safely say without fear of being ridiculed or marginalised now that the financial $hit has hit the fan. Well im glad your happy in your body because so many people seem to be miserable in theirs . I think you have misunderstood me in thinking I am promoting cloning in preference to natural reproduction . Not at all. Of course what we tend to forget is that by the time the average person dies their body will have cloned itself completely numerous times . I think the average time it takes for your body to completely replace every cell in the body is about seven years . So the body your were born with no longer exists except as a replica ! Nothing wrong with that but of course every replication causes some degradation and thus aging. Its natures way . Its easy to get caught up in strict definitions but I think its more important to have an in depth understanding of what creating and recreating is and does. If for example you can maintain an original master in stasis a second copy will suffer only very minor loss /degradation. But once you copy from a copy from a copy then you are in big trouble eventually . Sadly for many species on this planet ,genetic diversity is being destroyed as habitat is lost . Nobody has greater sympathy for that situation than an endangered species. Which is why a few of us , the few that are left of us , stayed behind to try and put things right. For our trouble we are demonized. Usually by those responsible for this tragedy. Its all in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy . Its also like saying I'm not actually human or posting from Earth when in fact I am . Its like saying my postal address is Wilts but my soul is C/o the universe ! Your right of course in a sense . But do the same people who refuse to identify by their species turn a blind non judgemental eye to species not their own ? In this life your Human Right ? Your body to be correct is humanoid yes ? So as long as your in this body on this planet and assuming you have been reincarnating here for a while, you have a track record on this planet wether you like it or not actually . Only resident aliens get to come and go from this planet at the moment unfortunately. My history , my soul heritage/culture if you like , is Nordic going back many millions of years in this dimension anyway. I have memories from before the last galactic war and before . Point is that souls incarnate for the experience and develop bonds of love with those souls who choose the same path . BUT I have many soul friends who are totally non humanoid so my association with them through love and respect gives me a share if you like in their evolution as a species. Souls evolve through bodies too , its not just souls evolving bodies only. There is more to it than that of course because we can inhabit any number of physical vehicles , If we choose to. Its a choice thing . I don't care about my nationality on this planet at all. But I do identify with being Nordic ,true Nordic , because of the Honor code that lies at its core . Its really more about that than species actually . Its a way of living . Purposefully , heroically and highly individualistically . Would you like to see all the creatures on this planet wiped out by greed ? The elephants, the tigers ,the birds and trees ? I don't think so. I would not . I am them and they are me . We need each other and respect the diversity of each other . That's honouring diversity not vaunting your species above another . As tool makers my ancestors created the first weapons . Now that's a good thing and a bad thing potentially of course . But all animals have a defensive mechanism of some kind. Horns ,teeth, poisonous bite, whatever. The Welsh ,Celts, Picts etc are all in fact Nordic in ancestry so you know you need to be carefull how you joke about these things . That's why they have been hunted ,persecuted etc by the Christian church and its Jewish handlers , the blind servants of Jehovah. Or Morgoth/sauron. But here is the essential Point. My people Honour all life .Jehovah is trying to destroy or enslave it. Your kidding me right ? There are thousands of people out there fighting to protect species diversity , BUT you wont hear a great deal about them from the MSM . Because who controls the MSM ? Here is the problem. Your defining good in terms of Labels ie good guys/bad guys. That's where the confusion starts and the sense of futility begins . May I suggest we start with what we can all agree on ? That a soul should be free to incarnate where it wants when it wants . I think we all agree on that . But your not, not on this planet . This is a prison colony and your soul is held captive as well as your body . That's why your angry and confused and cynical and I don't blame you guys for that for one second. Look around you and its obvious. You are being farmed for profit . By Jehovah . That's it in a nutshell. Hard to take yes ? But you all know it ,you can all see it . So what does it take for you to get contacted by Benevolent ET's who are trying to help you out of this mess ? Simple. Walk away from the system. How ? Buy a backpack ,hand in your notice and hit the road . Free yourself long enough to see the system from the outside. If you can do that you will have enough breathing room in your new found freedom to make contact viable and worthwhile. How many do that though ? Very few . And many who are contacted cant handle the responsibility of answering to their conscience and they return to their old ways . Back to the system and its laws and its money and its long term debt. Back to their dysfunctional families who are quick to ridicule them if they talk about strange encounters. The only other way we can reach you is through what the native Australians call the Dream time . But again ,as my contact with Pris thread demonstrated , it usually does not take long before the ceiling is hit and the fear kicks in. The contactee withdraws in to denial and hate and the opportunity to grow is lost. Because the price of freedom is to high for most humans and the cabal knows how to play on your fear to bring you back in line. Read the thread and watch how it develops . There are in fact a great many 'Jews' on the inside who are good people .They are trying to wake you up without over stepping the mark . They know how messed up the system is and they want out .But they know it will take a major shift in perception before they can get critical mass and break the cycles of abuse. They are no longer jews ,they are endeavouring to express themselves as free individuals. There is a good reason why cops don't like transients/travellers. Because they are ripe for contact and that threatens the system . Why do Native Australians go walk about sanicle ? Why do you think ? To make contact in the dreamtime. They know we are not alone in the universe better than anyone. That's why the Australian govt persecutes them .Why the catholic church abuses their children. Admiral. Supposing, just supposing your an ET and you get assigned as a volunteer to help out on this godforsaken rock. You see humans constantly raping stealing warring and hating on each other and you ask your self 'why even bother ?' Many do and don't bother because when they try the first thing humans cant cope with is anyone who looks different to them . Blue Skin! WTF ! So you know that the only chance you have to reason with Humans is to go in disguise and look like them . Easy enough with technology but its a deception nonetheless and even humans can pick up subconsciously when something isn't quite right . Humans are caged animals. They are fearful distrustful and ignorant . That makes meaningful contact very, very hard . Especially in England Which is in total lock down. For the most part. The first vital ingredient to successful contact is lack of fear. Most humans are addicted to fear though. How fearful are you ? You are living in the cabal's back yard mate . They own everything in the UK , Almost, but not quite. Because their claim of ownership is fraudulent and illegal and they damn well know it too. No , I agree ,deep down they are not bad and they want to live in peace and love/be loved . But they are not allowed to do that are they . Hate drives the machine/economic system. And more importantly your right on the first count too. ET cant save you , you have to do that yourself by making the choice to be free . We can show you the door but only you can choose to walk through it . The door is inside you ,always has been. But its been sealed off and you have to break that seal by force of will. Its called breaking the bread (your Loaf ie Brain) Breaking the seal that allows your brain to reconnect fully with any dimension. Jehovah put that seal in your ancestors so they could not see with their eye's closed . But you can bust it open. Who taught you to ride a Bike ? ET , your mum ,your dad ? Nope ,you have to learn to ride yourself. You have to get on and keep falling off until you get it. Its your body ,you have to program it to ride through experience. Same with OBE. We can and do take people for joy rides on our 'Bike's' to get them to see what its like , instil the hunger for the experience. Some go wow ! and hunger for more , others crap their pants and say no thanks. It really is that Simple Swanny I promise you . You don't have to sign any contracts or sell your soul . You already own that outright and its illegal and impossible to sell anyway. You have the balls and the passion Admiral , you are the captain of your vessel. That is the way it should be. Exactly . Its the main reason I am still here too. Kudos to you Swanny and well said. More importantly Swanny , if you want to help those you love ,you need to break yourself free first before you can help them . Its what the story of Orpheus is all about . Once you have broken the seal you can journey to where they are trapped and communicate with them again . Its not without hazard but it can be done . Yes I have done it. Yes ,on duty its my main job . Sometimes we get through but often we have to accept the soul is not ready . You would be amazed where people get trapped when they die . If they don't go to the Light they just drift in limbo looking for kicks and cadging a free ride where they can . Ever tried reasoning with an alcoholic or drug addict ? Infuriating isn't it ? Until they hit rock bottom though ,they wont ask for help . But even then , it still up to them to free themselves from addiction. Its no different to that really at all. Your love for your partner as you say ,does not end with death . If you need to make a voyage to rescue someone you lost , you need a Vessel to do it with. You need a compass ,you need charts, you need to know how to sail and navigate the vastness of ocean and space. You already have all you need but you have to take back the helm and kick off the customs and excise flunkies. Make them walk the plank and if they need a nudge with a sword point ,use it. That's what the Pirates of the Caribbean films are all about . The Kraken is the beast/soul trap. I never cease to be amazed at the duplicity of human Logic. So your saying you don't care about species dying and that they will be okay with planet plan B ? Leaving more room for humans no doubt ? You allow these species to die and your time is up too. The ecosphere will grind to a halt because the High stand on the low ,not the other way around. Kill the plankton and Krill and the Ocean Dies. Kill the oceans life and everything on land will soon start dying off too. You cannot see that ? Do you really want this planet to die ? What is your definition of a clear answer ? There can be no one clear answer when there are many choices and many options . You don't live on a free planet though. You are a slave here . So what do you want for the endangered species ? The same fate as yours ? Because that's where humanity is heading unless there is a huge change in their attitude. There are a number of standard tests when My people make contact. The first ones are tests for fear ,greed and ego. Fail those tests and the contact ends . There is no point in continuing . You are using standardised propaganda preconceptions regarding Greys, Nordics, Raptors and whoever to form an opinion based on what personal experience exactly ? Perhaps you prefer the sickly sweet rhetoric of the GFL brigade . Jesus on a popsicle stick. I don't care who I dine with on duty . Table manners with a raptor ? Mercifully non existent. Asgardians ? Food is food and drink is drink . Die tomorrow ?perhaps . Back soon enough after a pleasant break in Valhalla. You think all Nordics are blond blue eyed and 7ft6" . Not even close . We are black, yellow, white, Grey, Olive skinned and all shapes and sizes . Oriental , Polynesian , Aryan, and more besides. But you would not know that . The nine realms is a big chunk of space , not just one third rock from the sun in a dusty backwater. You refuse to change and grow in harmony with nature and nature will disown you . Because human behaviour is largely unnatural . Unless you think Jehovah's new world order is more to your liking and slavery gives you a sense of belonging. Why does the rest of nature deserve to loose their home because humans refuse to grow up ? A clear non evasive answer would be appreciated. You are perhaps offended by my defence of the NATIVE Australians ? They lived in perfect harmony with nature before your god came along. Honour them if you cant honour my people. Its their land . Jehovah is not what you think he is . Oh dear. Same old same old. Everything is choice UNLESS you like being seduced so you can cry victim. Humans are deeply programmed to do that . From frivolous law suits to 'there's something I need to tell you' . Always on the hustle. The planet is a mess because a tiny dysfunctional minority has seduced the majority through mind control . Lets deal with the accusation that I am recruiting . If you want to make a difference in the world , sure you can join the military and kill for uncle Sam . Or you can join the salvation army and molest children behind a convenient cover. When it come to sleazy recruiting No one does it better than Humans on this planet . From prostitution /drug rings to the Mormon church et al , there is nothing even remotely close off world to the depravity and sleaze of which Humans are capable. For this reason very few earth humans ever get to work with us . To much baggage , to much hate and jealousy . We don't need that and we sure as hell can get a few better men and Women just about anywhere else but here. We are not desperate . We recruit between and before lives are started here . We do make an effort to reach out but only if a measure of integrity is shown . In practice though it does not take long for social pressures to destroy any hope of regular 'classic' contact . Humans are just to spineless to be frank. They lack the courage to break free and run back to mommy. You all seem to think we should show ourselves and put things right for you but YOU are the dysfunctional majority screwing it up when we try to help . So we don't go shouting from the roof tops . If you cant get the simple message in the good art then stick with the Junk art your addicted to. This is not a message of hate , its an expression of frustration with a mind set Bent on self destruction. There is nothing more frustrating for us than self righteous Humans crying like babies when they don't get what they want on their terms. The truth is most of the 'savvy' people on this forum have no security clearance and have cobbled together their opinions second hand through the propaganda mill . The other fatal mistake evinced here and everywhere else is the us and them mind set . Goodness and decency is not about that . You all have an antagonistic attitude to ET because we don't do things your way . No we don't , because your way sucks. You don't need to ask for proof of that . You are the proof. Look what you've done here. You know who we contact most and hang out with on friendly terms ? Tribal people's . Not because they are 'savvy' but because they are Honest decent people who don't cry and whine like babies . Some of my very best friends on this planet are tribal elders. They know where they came from because they know how to travel 'in spirit' . They Honour mother earth while you all live in gift wrapped bubbles of me, me, me. There are many resident aliens here who know to keep their mouths shut about their true ID. Tell a human your an ET and within a day or two they will be back asking for special favours. They think they have won the Lottery ! Uh no . No freebies. We do freedom and adventure not free rides for lazy hides. But white people in particular get their hackles up when I say that because you are wracked with guilt at what you have done in the past . What you continue to do now. So you look for an excuse to be "Offended" so you can project your guilt on to us . So predictable. This thread is supposed to be about Cloning . What it is and what it is not. But in practice the ME crowd stears the conversation to score cheap points and win arguments . My people are not interested in 'winning'. We are endeavouring to do what is right by nature, mother Earth and the decent humans who live honourable lives. What have you done to make this planet a better place Swanny ? Your awake to the problem , that's a start. While you have been puttering along in civvy land my people have stopped your people nuking the planet many times over . But perhaps you prefer a fused rock to a pint of milk from the local 'Paki'. The problem very simple is this. YOU are the problem. The majority of humans. We cant change the way you think and act . Only you can do that . Its your planet, even though you really don't deserve it . I don't care what you believe . You need to decide whats worth chasing. Knowledge and experience or blind faith. I recommend the former but its up to you. If a person chooses to be 'insulted' by simple truths that are impossible to deny anymore then we have a problem. Enabling the problem by denying it exists is hardly the act of an honorable person. The simple Truth is this Carol. Humanity is killing this planet and all that lives on it, for greed . The majority enables the minority because they want what the minority has . Fame, wealth, power . They worship when they envy . They empower through hate . The simple solution to this co dependent relationship is self respect and unconditional love. But Humanity as a whole plays the same game as their masters because they like hating, lying, cheating and destroying. ET can only do so much when humanity refuses to listen either to us or their conscience . You can dance around these basic facts if you choose to but they wont be going away anytime soon. You want to have your cake and eat it. You want ET to clean up your mess then complain that they don't do enough ! There will always be an excuse wont there ? But its never humanities fault . No , they just go to confession so they can start the abuse again on Monday. Your planet is dying at the hands of Human 'evolution' . It's not a pretty picture. Us and them eh ? No . It was never meant to be that way . But humanity has bought in to the lie that they are special ,chosen,better than. You know that favored lie in new age circles , 'Humans are royalty' . This twisted perversion of the truth is what enslaves you all. You want special treatment without the responsibilities it entails . NO. It does not work like that . Love is not a free ride to Blissville .Its a responsibility that lives its truth, not leverages souls with empty promises. The 'Devil' promises you Blissville and you wait for your lottery ticket to pay out. You choose false hope over honest endeavor. Love gives without thought of return because the future is yet to be won. Hate embraces the lie and returns to its prison cell. The only true thing Jesus Ever said was this , 'The Kingdom of Heaven is Within you' . But he never told you Exactly what that meant in practice of course because ,well obviously, you were not worthy . Nature teaches all her students without fee or expectation. No new age waffle or saccharin. Just experience . No forum , no Bible ,no ET can show you the way. You have to live it . Then , when your spirit soars above the crowd , you will get the answers . Not from me , not from Zen Gardner or the church of later day conspiracy theories. Until that time ,those who serve do what they can to preserve the balance of life . No ego trips. Just doing whats right. Using mind control to enlighten people does not work . Truth is fully conscious engagement and experience , not a hypnotic trance where you surrender control to blind faith and hope for the best. When the North wind blows Cold ,the native tribes people know we have come to visit . Not in space suits with blasters on our hip. But dressed Humbly and simply to share stories by the fire and honest food . True North and a guiding star to steer by . You think 'Nordic' means something completely different to what we are. You want to know how we interact with Humans ? Watch the Film Chocolat. Its a classic example of the abuse we suffer for our efforts to engage humanity. We are not going to give you weapons to kill each other . What we want you to see is the beauty of simple pleasures , tolerance and kindness. The problem with your request is very simple . YOU voted your leaders in and we have to respect that . They are your leaders ,not ours . We can and do to try to reason with your leaders but their response is always 'we are accountable to our electorate ' . As if....... So Carol has abused her position as admin and given me an avatar I never asked for . She has 'painted' me as you all do because ridicule and jeering is your response when you don't get what you want on your terms. If we over step the mark and intervene directly by removing your corrupt leaders , what do you think will happen then ? Hmmm? That would be direct contravention and illegal intervention in your planetary affairs and we would be guilty of the same crimes as the cabal . Cant you see that ? You want control of your planet and fix the problems ? Get on and do it. We legally cannot . We can only intervene when your use of atomic weapons threatens neighboring systems and the life of the planet itself. There has already been congressional testimony about out confiscation of nuclear warheads by USAF officers . In WW2 we intervened in the same way . I gave proof of that in my thread . You must understand that you have to help yourselves get past this. If you cannot see your errors ,you will repeat them . Now re Nordic . Your use of the English language is basic . Mine is more studied . North is not a nation or a species .North is a direction that traditionally points up yes ? To the stars . That's what we mean by Nordic .You use words so two dimensionally . You miss out on the layers of meaning and the true depth and color of what I am trying to share here. Nordic legends do come from the stars as do you all . You are star dust . Stop limiting the words you use to justify enslaving yourselves. When the wind blows ,when the mothers talk........ The wind blows when a stargate is opened from another dimension to this one . The north wind blows down cold from the stars because its IS from the stars . That's what it means. Why is the wind cold ? Because space is cold. Why the chill up your spine as the gate opens ? Massive electrical energy ,that's why . You will see the sky darken and the clouds spiral round as the gate opens. Its no regular thunderstorm your witnessing. You have been buried here a long time . Buried in ignorance fear and hate . You can deny we exist ,that's fine ,that's your choice. But are you happy that way ? I think not . You want your freedom ? Earn it. You want justice ? Fight for it . No ,we cannot intervene and override YOUR choices ,your mistakes ,your denial. The cabal does that. They are your problem ,not us. That's why the cabal projects on to US ,their sins ,their crimes. And you guys buy in to that when you believe all that BS on conspiracy sites. Wake up. Its called Misdirection. No , I am not recruiting here . Why would I ? Seriously ? What do you have to offer in your current state ? Not much . Why would we even bother trying to engage you when you hate on us and blame us for your problems ? Excuses ,always excuses. Never an apology and the humility to ask "what are we doing wrong and how can we fix this mess ?" You are the answer . We can point weapons that would end your problems in a split second but that's not how we do business. Do you want to save this planet or don't you ? Yes or no ? Because you wont be to welcome elsewhere in your current mental state of hate and blame .You just wont . Your planet ,your responsibility .Deal with it. Because as you rightly point out , No we don't see it as ours and we wont help those who refuse to help themselves. That's the spirit . You go Girl. I had to take off the training wheels sooner or later . One day you will comprehend all that happened and why . Its your life and your choices that count . I cant do it for you . Never promised I would . I don't make promises I cant keep . What your going through right now is perfectly normal and expected . It was never about me but I did what I could to respect your need to know. Its okay , I do understand what your going through but you have to walk this path alone and you have take on the responsibilities Pris. What I am posting here is Follow up for anyone who read that thread because you cant just read it and get it. You have to live it , be it , get it wrong get wires crossed , get confused . Its all part of the process. No journey worth taking is easy . One last recommendation .A film called The Way . Its okay to be angry ,its okay to get mad . Its part of the healing and letting go . Well ,well, well . Burning books is the first sign of tyranny . The first casualty of war eh ? So much for free speech . You used to be so hot on that did'nt you ? There's a turn around. Its all predicted or rather predicated on Choice . Your choice Pris . Be sure you can live with it. Because where we are standing what you call life is not much of a life at all. Sorry to have wasted so much of your time. Must be another Pris I was communicating with ,because I don't recognize this one at all. So much hate and venom . If you like that avatar ,use it yourself by all means but its not my choice . I like having a bag over my head , suits me fine . I dont like investing my identity in Images. I prefer to use just words. I Only communicate with those who choose to engage me . There is no shortage of preconceptions about me and my opinions and that's fine but a debate that does not allow debate is rhetoric . I could go deep in to my families history to back up my arguments but its all deniable because of official secrets. I have merely touched on my genetic history and that's the way I intend to keep it . It creates way to much anguish if I reveal to much . I am not terribly interested in developing personal relationships here . To hazardous . I am not interested in validating second hand opinions but I can always respect those who can speak from REAL experience . Big difference. In the Film Chocolat , a wandering lady of french/south american heritage enters a small French Village and has to confront a very narrow restrictive church centric culture where individuality is frowned upon . But chocolate and chilli is a powerful combination that stirs hearts and minds , just as truth and love does . Its a happy ending but not without pain on the way . If enjoying good food and companionship is predictive programming ! well what can I say ? Its a very common experience for ET's who try to engage humanity ,this theme . Very Common indeed . The wanderer who enters town without religion or baggage or identity. Someone who lives their own truth , not the Normal consensus. It was bound to happen though . Only a matter of time before the ranks close and the stranger gets his house boat burned. You Locked my thread without my permission Carol. Did you tell Pris that ? I decided to end MY input yes , but I left the door open for Pris to do her own thing . Now you have Deleted it ! Again without asking . What does that say about you ?


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    Seashore wrote:By Whitney Webb of Unlimited Hangout:  A “Leap” toward Humanity’s Destruction
    THE "WELLCOME LEAP" INTO TRANSHUMANISM -
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    Whitney Webb of www.UnlimitedHangout.com joins us once again, this time to discuss her latest article, "A “Leap” toward Humanity’s Destruction." Even if you're familiar with the transhumanist agenda, what the ex-DARPA, ex-Silicon Valley old hands at the newly created Wellcome Leap are planning to do in their quest to transform the human species in the coming decade will blow your mind.
    More Blue Roller. I'm Attempting Responsible-Neutrality. Good-Luck with That?? There's One in Every Forum.

    Whoa , She is a ginger ! Well that's one selfie the Spanish inquisition never expected . Look I never needed to know THAT much about you .Still it is revealing and thanks . Did you have the camera the right way up though ? So I was doing a bit of research on the INFJ door slam . Your up to three now or is it four ? Is there an upper limit ? I thought you only ever got one . Must be some kind of mistake. That's alright .Changing her mind is a female prerogative . I know you miss me but Pris I have a life to get on with and I told you from the start that it would not last forever. Why so cranky ? It had to end someday . You know .Threads don't last forever and this one will soon be extinct too like the other. Erased , Finito ,dead ,shuffled off its mortal coil and gone to meet its maker ,bereft of life it will breathe no more . This thread wont squawk if you put a million volts through it. Soon it will join the celestial choir indivisible . Good Job I cloned a Copy Eh ? Cloning will always have its limits but I am not the evil person you make me out to be all of a sudden . But as unfortunate as cloning is , repeating mistakes because of self hate is a copy cat behavior that harms only you. Ride on , ride free . The past is poor compensation for loss of the present. Today I got unfortunate news from a friend . No ,I'm OK . He has lost his marriage though and what's sad is the reasons behind her pain. So common ,so repetitive. I could see it coming long before he told me . Its not her fault ,its not his. Abusive alcoholic ex mil father . Powerless to help . Another happy family broken . Is that good ? Is that acceptable ? What will it do to the Kids ? Its not about ET . Its not about what planet you are from or what species . Bugger all of that . Love has no boundaries . It flows everywhere like water and energy . Because it is that and more. There is no other message , no subliminal crap . No hidden agenda's . The separation you feel is a refusal to allow love back in. When life is a journey you will walk with strangers for a while but paths meet and diverge and the journey goes on. What you leave behind lets you go and what you return to is never the same again. Separation is an illusion and no matter how hard you tried to lock me out you could not resist reading what I have put down. I have chased down in my youth but now I am chasing a different mistress . The bridge to infinity has already been crossed and soon I will be gone. You accused me of abandoning you and yes in a way that's true . But mourning the death of a body is irrational really . Especially if its just a clone. Putting words in my mouth is not baiting the hook . Your anger persists with no logic and its not helping you , its hindering you . The trap is only as effective as the hate you feed it . Let it go Pris , just let it go . You have tried to bury one thread and now you will push to have this one deleted too no doubt . But what is written is written . Until you write a new story. Your story . A new story . Not the same old fairy tale that haunted your childhood. Im sure you want to ban me and if Carol says okay , that' fine , I have no problem with that . You can chalk that up as a moral victory . How quickly you have become everything you deplore in others though. All that rhetoric about free speech means nothing now I take it. I never 'threatened' to abandon you because there is no personal relationship between you and I . I shared some time with you writing a thread That I started but was happy to share with just you . That's all. We are on opposite sides of the planet Girl. How the Hell does that make us partners ? I tried to resolve your sudden turn against me privately but you refused to communicate . In the meantime I wanted to share some observations that you choose to assume always refer to you so you can claim you are being victimized. Your not the only woman on the planet Pris ,hate to break that to you . And on a suffering scale of one to ten your maybe a two at best . Be thankful for that . Unlike you , I KNOW personally many women who have suffered terribly ,men too . S**t happens on this planet . Big time . Your story isn't that special actually . You got off Lite. Your not the only Vegan , your not the only Canadian ,your not the only person who has issues . Accept it. You can be every bit as quick to judge others. But that's your right . You are entitled to your opinion. AS AM I. You cannot realistically expect me or anyone else to agree with you 100% . That's no excuse to get nasty and slam the door . You seem to think that your way is the only way. It is . For you . But not everyone. People disagree with me all the time and that's ok . I dont take it personally . I dont take vegetarians personally. I dont take Orthydoxymorons pain personally and hate that person for it . I sympathize with this person actually though im powerless to help. Now the last time I looked you were not a cat but if you really want to identify as one , well go for it Girl. If you want to be Ironic , if you want to be a redhead , or you want ? What do you want ? What is the natural you ? Only you know the answer to that question .I am not that interested in you . I discouraged you from wanting to know to much about me . I tried to tell you its would be better not to .To focus on the thread . But you needed validation and in getting it you wanted more . Im sorry , but I cant give you that . I see your unhappy but if you say your not then your not . So whats the problem ? Really ? I regret giving you that validation now because it did not help you . Locking the thread and removing it is as good as deleting it . You claim it as yours Now . Take it. My words are not mine alone and they live outside the strictures of this forum. Its no loss to me, really it isn't . It can all die. The words ,the thread, my presence here . I dont come here for hit counts and attention . For me its an exercise , a writing exercise . I put down thoughts and enjoy the process . For you Pris the motivation is different. You spend to much time online ,IMHO . Its not always about you Pris . Its about a whole damn planet of people suffering . Your just one person in what ? 7 billion ? A lot . We are not special or better than . We are just a small part in the vastness . I love being nobody in this body , I am nobody in this body . I chose to be simple , poor ,humble, anonymous . Not a big fish at all in this life . Big fish are big targets . What I choose to share though is free thought .Take it or leave it but if you insist on taking the whole worlds pain on your shoulders how can you find peace ? Only tyrants demand absolute agreement . Your never going to get it. Exactly ! Do you have any idea how angry Fukushima makes me ? But you see I personally think we should have stopped that happening . But we did not because the Council said its would be interference . Absolute BS . However that may be the case , Japan was warned many times NOT to put nuke reactors where they could be vulnerable but being a very corrupt country politically ,they ignored us . Again. They also failed to put in fail safes in the event of coolant flow loss . The reactors were never designed for civilian use. They were designed for Nuke Subs by G.E. ! Outdated pieces of crap. The problem with many earth Humans is they never admit they are wrong. They often tell us not to interfere with their affairs . Its like this Swanny. You may know for a fact that your neighbors wife is being beaten by her husband when he comes home drunk , but you cant interfere directly. You can call the Police and hope they catch the guy in the act . Worse ,you may suspect a child is being molested just across the national border between your country and say , France . But you cant do anything about it because its not your jurisdiction . There are a million things you may not like but you are powerless to intervene directly . As a race , a species ,Earth humans are an Illegal Genetic experiment . So that makes the legal stuff even more complex. The Cabal claims your DNA as their patent , just like they claim GMO crops as their exclusive property. This is how they claim jurisdiction over you and technically they know how to play that card. You are corporate slaves ,corporate property . As long as you remain asleep. But once you wake up and regain access to your soul ,they have to rescind their legal claim on your body because you are no longer dead cargo. That's what it means ,the seal. Until you break the seal your bonded cargo . You have no rights. Sure we can rescue a cat , we can rescue a child that's about to drown . The small stuff goes under the radar . But if we get directly involved without requesting assistance first , we are trespassing/spying . Which is exactly the kind of pretext the cabal is looking for to have us removed . They also set up traps for us when they engineer disasters in the hope of gaining our technology. They escalate to create an excuse to frame us as the bad guys. They hold you guys hostage and hold us to a high standard they never conform to themselves. Yes, it sucks .It sucks big time and many of us would love to say F*** the cabal and do the right thing. But we cant . Our job would be so much easier if enough of Humanity finally says 'enough' . I have had big arguments with higher ups about this . Its a huge cat and mouse game . Its wrong. I agree with you completely BUT justice on this planet ? Forget it. You dont have it until you demand it . Look at your Birth certificate . Its got a number on it . That number is traded on the stock exchange. You body is stock ,an asset. You are not a man ,you are an asset. A trade able asset. The cabal comes to council and they state that . Until you refute the contract as the soul owner of that body. Now all this rubbish about predictive programming in movies .Yes ,that used to be very much true of a percentage of media but look at the change in emphasis now. The Catholic church is getting hammered by Indie and MSM. The lid is OFF . Same with the banking system. The lock down on truth is breaking down now. That is because a great many Jewish people within Hollywood are doing the right thing as well as none Jews. Sure there is compromise ,there is politicking . But its a shift and that's better than no change at all. The subliminal stuff only works on the weak minded anyway. When people start seeing everything they worked for getting stolen , S**t gets real fast. I don't mind you getting in my face Swanny , Damn right you should . Keep doing it . Give me hell , give ET hell too . They need a ripping. I am as disgusted as many are at the bureaucratic excuses and wavering . That's good . We need more people like you saying this . At least you admitted you unilaterally locked out our thread without asking me . Censorship , I believe its called. You see what you want to see. Not interested in playing that game. Now I need to get back to the topic in hand . Excuse me. Swanny actually gave me a great lead in to the next part of the topic . Thanks Swanny. So you've got clones and you've got drones. Drones such as worker Bee's dont have a mind of their own .They follow orders until they die. That's it. Humans who's souls are asleep are drones.They obey the programming instilled in them by religion etc. In Attack of the Clones ,George Lucas throws out a big clue regarding cloning and the fate of earth humans. On Camino Obi wan gets a guided tour. ..."we modified their genetic structure to make them less independent than the original host. They are totally obedient ,obeying any order without question". Sound familiar ? There are many clues to prove that Human DNA has been tampered with. Cancer being one. Cancer results when the kill switch on an old and worn out cell refuses to die. Instead of being recycled ,it multiplies and starts to eat healthy tissue just like an invasive parasite. The RH positive Rhesus Monkey Gene marker in Human blood. Its should not be there , but it is. That's just the start though and of course there is the huge amount of so called 'junk DNA' to explain too. Unfortunately , because my first thread has been locked and withdrawn , I cant refer people to it . Politics Eh ? Replication is part of new life and mother knows best when it comes to doing it properly . But when nature is messed with it creates all sorts of problems. Because Balance in the force is what gives us all this astonishing variety of life . Its beautiful , why mess with something that amazing ? Good parents who really love their children allow them to make their own choices when they leave home. Its called unconditional love. Bad parents lay the guilt trips on thick and fast . They molest their children and humiliate them so they can control and enslave them. Which parents would any of you choose ,if you had the choice ? When bad parents instill self doubt in innocent children that child will struggle to build healthy relationships in adulthood. It will identify love with pain and humiliation and seek out those who supply it. Healthy love , they will not understand ,or try to coerce in to an abusive self punishing form. They lash out because its the only 'love' they have ever known . Jehovah , the 'father' of humanity, knows that and exploits it. He pimps you all for profit. To him you are sheep, expendable canon fodder and slaves. A cheap weapons system.



    Thank you so much for putting this up Carol. Awesome . I hope you picked up the bit about the love connection at the beginning. Anyway , i'm getting back to watching the rest of it now. Hi Carol. Yes , excellent input and with a good rounded overview. This is the kind of reply i can interact with intelligently. Okay , lets get me out of the way first . I am largely but not completely cloned . Now the reason for that in my case is several fold but I will try to keep it very brief. In the last galactic war my people were Nordic yes , but specialists, colonists, who took to living on worlds with high gravity . So we ended up getting over time ,shorter and very muscular, stocky. We built very high value specialized systems . We built them for defensive purposes . When the war began we were among the first targeted for special attention and most of my ancestors were wiped out . So being one of only a few left with the genetic memory to build what we built, we were given that dubious privilege of being allowed to clone in order to rebuild. Its not something to boast about , its just the sad reality . But in order to safe guard our DNA the mothers agreed to be the guardians of our genetic heritage . Its a great honor and privilage to have that level of protection but we need it . There is more to that but I shan't bore you with it here . Now of course Cloning can be bad news , and often is . Its an abuse of natural reproductive processes of course and comes with all sorts of potential problems because without a stable evolved soul matrix ,the damn things can go rogue and get jacked by all sorts of Yahoos and they do. Cloning and soul transfer without proper virus protection and oversight (the mothers oversee us to keep us clean) means that the Cabal is propping up their degraded genetic heritage with all sorts of half assed breeding programs .End result ,which is good for humanity, is that they are crumbling and loosing viable control of their family. Inbreeding is the other way that they circle jerk their genes to work . The grid they put in place around the planet stops both human souls from communicating with the outside and theirs . They are victims of their own stupid plots . Ordinarily your computer updates your virus protection automatically right ? Same with DNA in a healthy planetary system where life has open source communication across many dimensions. No different to that of a native forest ecosystem only its intergalactic/dimensional. Earth is locked down so human life here is largely in stasis along with the Cabalists families too. Earth Mother is constantly kept in a state of trauma by them so she cant reach out as well as she would like . She is caged and tortured . Its a sick sick system here. I have to go off world to upgrade and clean up every now and then, but I also run two bodies simultaneously. This one is entirely civilian .The other one is working with the ET's given clearance and resident status here . We have a license to intervene if you like. Its not as broad in scope as we would like but its better than no scope. The cabal hates us with a passion of course but they know its not wise to cross us. They envy our 'immortality' as they cal it. Its not really that at all but its what they desire most for themselves. I gave some photographic proof of that in my thread and a bit of background . We do reproduce and father children naturally and prefer to do it that way. Love is the best viral protection you can give your children . If your a good mother you know that right ? We are sadly often absent fathers because of duty but our kids know who we are and we keep in touch . What I have tried to do Carol is give a sane overview of the pro's and con's of cloning because way to many people typecast these subjects and it just turns in to a massive paranoid fear fest . That helps no one. My civvy body gives me time out, literally. My duty body is younger but looks the same only fitter of course . There are only a few of us left now. Hopefully when this mess is over with ,we can go home and move on . By then we will have rebuilt our heritage enough not to keep cloning anymore. When the original Clone wars took place , just like it states in the star wars movie revenge of the sith , the codes were scrambled to safe guard what was left of us. We had to go in to hiding though in practice that hiding was more sophisticated than just finding a remote planet . So yes , cloning has its uses and there are exceptional circumstances where it is done properly by the experts as indeed happens in the Film Avatar. That's such an important Film to understand Carol. It goes in to all this stuff in a very realistic and technically accurate way. Any questions, hit me up .I will try to answer them . My godmother, so to speak, keeps my DNA somewhere safe. A good tool preserved in oil ,she calls it. Its an old Joke my people have . Others refer to these Mothers as The Three Graces. Mine is the short stocky one . There is a famous painting of them with Italian Greyhounds . See if you can find it if you like. Soul transfer whether from clone to clone or body to clone or soul to body depends on having a good connection. If you have a lousy slow internet connection the downloaded data can be compromised or interrupted before complete Right ? Not good. In a healthy planetary system the the planet itself is the womb for soul transfer as illustrated in the Film Avatar. On this planet the prison bar grid system disables mother earths ability to manage soul transfer in a natural healthy way . That's why you get so many problems here . We have a good connection to our mothers so we are fortunate in that regard .We could not operate successfully here without it . Its really not that hard to understand actually is it ? Not saying that in a patronizing way at all. So yes , the cabal does all sorts of sick crazy stuff to keep its agenda going . It fears mother Earth getting free of her chains . It fears us constantly throwing a spanner in the works that they cant predict . Charlie Chaplin is one of us. But he hacks the cabals grid through being a clown , not a clone . Though the word play in that is no accident . The cabal is in a double bind though because if they allow the human genome/soul matrix to degrade to much ,they cant get humanity to work at all . So they tolerate our efforts to touch people's hearts because they have to . Does that make sense ? So you see Hollywood is a very complex diplomatic stand off . They need our 'star quality' yet they hate us for connecting with hearts and minds. They cannot make money without our 'pull' .We connect with people because they instinctively recognize deep down ,the good stars, and need that connection just to give them something beyond the mediocre slave existence . Even the worst slave drivers know they have to give their minions some respite . Its very important to understand this point actually because deep down ,humanity does remember and their souls are crying out from that deep abyss in to their hypnotized daily grind. "wake the f**k up !" Now when people say Hollywood is ALL mind control they are just wrong . Sure ,some of it is pure drivel . Junk . But not all . Love is a force of nature . Its seriously powerful stuff. Best protection in the multiverse . Let it in and give it back . Let go of your hate and fear. Best advice I can give . Trust your heart and you wont get hurt . Give in to hate and fear and anger and you just hurt yourself. My Mother takes on a Human body ! yep . Planet Mothers incarnate .Well why would they not ? I mean seriously , if you have an arse the width of a planet you can do just about anything when you shake that Booty. Funny eh ? But im not joking. My mother has a house up the road from here . Not my birth mother , my souls keeper mother . Or for short that's what we call them , Keepers. My designation on duty is seeker . Because that's what we do, We seek out the lost and try to help them . Not an easy job here . That's what an authentic 007 does. Because the name means 'The bond of love between heaven and earth ' or J'aime Bond for short. People think James Bond is all sex and violence but no , its really very often about trying to rescue damaged women who are being used by the cabal . In order to effect a rescue we do use our charm and we do make love to make the connection. That's part of it anyway. Tricky though. But the Earth Mothers are nothing if not pragmatic when it comes to getting the job done . Now I think I know who you are talking about when you mention your friend Carol but this friend needs to get to grips with the fact that there is a lot of growing to do and learning to do . No short cuts . Pris has hit a wall and I have a pretty good idea why . But she has to get her sh** together herself . No one can do it for her . Same applies to everyone. To many women and men are looking for a free ride home . It does not work until you clean up your act and deal with your fear. Once you have done that you wont need to cadge a lift from anyone. You wont need to worry about being part of an evacuation team to get a ticket off this rock . Saving your body is not our main concern. Saving your soul is. The first Humans created by Enki were cloned from a mish mash of whatever he could scrape together from what was left after his army and battle fleet was destroyed by us. It was total war because the bastard would never negotiate ,never give up , and was ruthless in his objectives .So we had to put the hammer down hard on the son of a bitch . By the time the war had ended he had laid waste to thousands of Innocent species with biological weapons . We chased him down to this planet where to avoid total annihilation he took many of our soul mates hostage in the machine. That's the only reason why we put up with him. The only reason . That's why James Bond is Always seducing beautiful women in those films. He is trying to rescue them . Now you know about MK Kitten Programming Carol ? I was married to one. This programming is very common amongst women and to make it stick the cabal encourages all Kittens to 'look out for each other' . SO that turns in to a chronically dysfunctional pity party that's very hard to break. My first Wife had a Teddy bear , the one they gave her to comfort her after torturing her . That was her comfort zone , a stuffed rag ! No wonder she was a mess . Long story, shan't go in to it here . That's why American Cops carry so many teddy bears in their cars. Damage control. So to hold the programming in place and give cold comfort ,Kittens develop an attachment to either stuffed dolls/Teddy bears etc OR pet animals. Could be a Cat , a Dog ,a hamster ,whatever. This desperate over identification with and love for the comfort creature displaces any hope of a meaningful intimate relationship with a real person. Having experienced hurt rejection and betrayal in Human relationships they seek safer options and safe partners who are dull lifeless drones OR turn out to be their Handlers . Clones dont experience love and warmth but at a deep genetic memory level ,they know its missing and long for it. It drives them insane trying to fill that void . Ask any child what is most important to them and they will always say the love of their mummy and daddy. Deny that love and you crucify the child . Churches uses that trick all the time. Jesus wont love you until you accept him as your personal Savior . What a crock. Many MK Kittens are clones or IVF using stolen DNA . The cabal does this deliberately to try and steal , torture and punish US , the alliance that destroyed Enki's plans for inter galactic domination. The clone wars are still going on . Now I dont know much about this Italian Job actually because off duty , I choose not to know to much . To painful. Im supposed to be on R and R. But even off duty its hard for me not to try and reach out to help . Our soul mates and wives were raped, tortured and turned in to Breeders by Enki you see. So for us , its personal, Deeply personal. That's why I get banned so quickly usually. Now the 'alien abduction thing'. We don't do that . That's a false flag cabal operation to demonize us. Anyone with technology as advanced and civilized as us does not need to do crazy crap like that ! Why even bother ? Anal probes ! When the cabal does these abductions to impregnate/breed with their Dolls/Kittens they can then blame it on someone else. Standard operating procedure for these creeps. Then if a Kitten does have a child and she gets out of line they threaten to torture their child. Its the old hostage meme over again. So please have a Second thought Carol before assuming its the Greys . The authentic Greys just dont do that stuff . Nor do we. Steve Greer has a lot of useful info but he is sometimes played and unwitting . Not his fault really . Simon Parkes is a limited hang out I suspect but again not all bad . Just somewhat relatively not completely in the picture. I never trust guys with a comb over . The Film Sky Captain and the world of Tomorrow is a tongue in cheek homage to us . The evil totenkopf (derivative anagram of potentate) and his 'Unit 11' is an oblique reference to Enki and his Elves . Elf is German for Eleven. And of course Eleven is an anagram of Elven. Thus a staged event dated 9/11. The lord of the Rings Films have essentially peeled the lid off the Nice guy image of the Elves . Sauron is an Elf as was his master  Morgoth. The orcs are Elves who have suffered horrific genetic manipulation and abuse. Not all Elves are bad , but when they screw up they dont do it by halves. Your not listening Swanny. What part of not our planet dont you get ? Your planet ,your responsibility. Ever Lobbied your local MP about Fukushima ? How many people do you know actively demanding action ? Like I said , we could help more if Humanity grew a pair but your cowards most of you. Out and out back stepping ,arse crawling ,self pitying, spineless tools. The fact that we dont like it either does not make it easy for us . Try going to Japan yourself and see how far you get trying to do something about it. Sadly and realistically , part of the reason the council did not allow full intervention was this . "Earth humans never learn anything here until it slaps them in the face " They do have a point. You are Orcs, you are Enki's slaves and bitches. You are his property ,his race . Not ours. Tough love ? yes it is. You are blaming us for your Gods and your people's sins. Not a good argument in Court Mate. Do you use your gods Dollar and spend his pound ? Do you submit to his authority ? Driving licence , tax number ? Yes you do . And that's why your getting the results you get. Your going to have to do better than that. You grow a pair and ask for help with humility and contrition and your far more likely to get Help. Steal the moral high ground and you just come off as a professional victim. Which leads me to the next big question nobody has quite figured out . Why is it that the highest percentage of alien abductees/implant victims are Rh negative blood types ? Simple answers is because they are our people and Enki loves to use and punish our people the most. But being a minority who are the most enslaved of all, their voice is the least powerful and rh positives are conditioned to hate and marginalize rh negatives because they are the out of the box thinkers who are least prone to full deception. Et's do not abduct anyone or force them to submit to anything . Only cabal operatives masquerading as us play that game . So when people attack me on Forums I know exactly why and where they are coming from. Conditioned hatred, jealousy and fear. Many people Lie about being Rh negative for the Kudos or to deliberately deceive and ingratiate themselves. There is a basic rule for any resident ET on this planet and that rule is "Never ever trust an Earth Human". The currency on this planet is Lies . The money system is a lie, history is a lie , your governments always lie . So what chance is there that being honest will get you ahead on this planet ? Zero , basically. When ever ET tries to negotiate therefore with Earths representatives they are dealing with a species that cannot be trusted and therefore our efforts must necessarily take that in to account. The only weapon that the average human has though that can change this mess is the truth and the courage to pursue it at any cost . I cant say for sure what all the reasons are for not intervening more thoroughly in respect of Fukushima but there are many factors that could be involved. Being underwater contamination there are I am sure, measures being taken to re mediate the situation but exactly how much I would not know . Any contamination that our bases come in to contact with can be harvested and neutralized easily enough . Its a lot like the underwater equivalent of the chemtrailing program. A desperate attempt to smoke out our craft and monitor them amongst other things. But Humans pollute everything .They pollute the water with flouride and Chlorine and god knows how many pharmaceuticals .The soil , the air ,the sea. So you know Swanny , Fukushima is just their latest, greatest dumb move. But its not their fault , oh no . Its our fault for not doing something. Its not a black and white thing is it ? Personally I think we should have stopped it happening in the first place for the sake of the sea life and mother Earth , but every intervention is a calculated risk here because the Cabal are desperate bastards looking to set up any excuse for preemptive action. Not to mention the on going hostage/blackmail operation they use on civilians. For us we are forced to choose the lesser of two evils because we are dealing with pure Evil. You dont deal with evil without making hard choices. Its war . If you were in our position Swanny , what would you do ? When this mess happened in the first place many ET's argued for the Planet to be destroyed as a mercy killing and to stop the ongoing horror . Could you make that choice and live with it ? We tried to kill the beast but that backfired and it simply submerged under the Bermuda triangle. We stopped its offensive weapons capability but it still harvests/rapes souls. What I find difficult to accept from you Swanny is that while i go to considerable length and depth to reason with you , you just jump to summary judgement and refuse to take any share of the responsibility with your fellow humans . Not very impressive. This behavior is very typical and its why so few humans getting meaningful extend contact. They usually play along for awhile then pull out the knife and put it in your back . Just like their creator 'God'. When my people tried to negotiate with him directly he abused the laws of parley and slaughtered all of them . He made a very dangerous enemy that day. His end is coming and we have this planet locked down tighter than a crabs arse in a tsunami. He isn't going to escape this time . Once he is gone and the machine shut down , maybe then we can get more done. Ah Swanny , how long have you been stewing in the basement chewing on regret ? Why play 'the game ' if you dont think I am who I say I am ? Bit hypocritical. But since you know better may I suggest you not waste your time here ? I mean dont let me stop you if you want to keep coming up with lame arguments but its not going to change anything because just like most humans , you know better. Pris said That to me when she first engaged me. Thought it was just a game . It is a game in a sense . Life is a game. You can stew in front of a computer all day having fake relationships . OR you can get out there and live an authentic life and meet with ET's . IF you have the balls to get humble and listen instead of preaching like a teenager. Most humans are total wimps. They like their cages and their junk food and their conspiracy theories . But living authentically is not theory , its practice. You helped mess up this planet, not us. You who claim if you had the power you would fix it ! But you don't and you wouldn't if you could. Fact is matey , you would not still be breathing if was not for us. We do what we do voluntarily while you sweat on your complacent butt preaching. Not one of my arguments have you addressed reasonably by point. You just sneer and smear , like most Humans . Yes the pacific ocean is in big trouble and yes it is tragic but on a galactic scale your home planet is a drop in the ocean and life will go on no matter how much YOU humans f****d it up here. Thank the heavens for that much. Your an experiment that was never meant to go right and maybe its time to pull the plug on your lame excuse filled dead end lives. Your 'voice' is just an echo of Jehovah's hate . You have no authentic voice of your own. And in that sad fact lies the source of your demise as a race. Only those who honored their mother will be remembered when she vacates. Planets do Die , but the spirit that animates and gives them life is eternal. If Mother earth has to vacate her body here and take her soul elsewhere , she can do that and who would blame her , after the way you humans have treated your own mother . Life on this planet is on a Knife edge now. Human apathy and greed is the cause of it. We have a place prepared for your mother but you ? Hey, you chose your god a long time ago .Enjoy his company. He may be your god , but he sure as hell is not ours. The entire galactic community thinks YOUR responsible , That's what it thinks. Or are you just passing through Swanny ? Realistically Swanny ,we have done everything we reasonably can to wake up humanity and get them to see whats going down. BUT like I keep saying ,its your planet and your choices that will decide your fate . Humans are lazy . They want daddy to take care of everything and if God does not show up to rescue their lame, fat, complacent arse's ,then damn it ,why isn't ET doing our grunt work for us ! No swanny boy . Your mess , your responsibility. We are not going to clean up the crap in your bedroom just so you cant take another crap in the corner and smear it on the walls when we leave. You want to behave like a spoiled brat , you get to live in a room smeared with your own defecate. Humans are the only species that wont crap in the corner if they are caged , did you know that ? They will crap everywhere. And they do. My words are not a message of hate .They are a cry of despair for your total lack of real love . Your self destructive hate .




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    The BR download is mostly sans the comments of forum members. Those in the Know seem to be greasing the skids of my demise without telling me what is really going on. Is this fair?? I had a high-school teacher who asked us, "Who's Talking About Fair??" Dr. Robert H. Schuller preached, "Life Isn't Fair but God is There!!" Consider Theodicy and Eschatology in the context of All My Threads. This is mostly an in-house Tempest in a Teapot. I probably need to write something to pay the bills but dragging the dirty-linen into the limelight is NOT my MO!! I'm leaning toward an innocent devotional-book no-one will read. Of course, I could simply give them what they want and tell them what they wish to hear. I could get a publisher to tell me what to write and say. It might be easier that way.

    Carol your not reading my words at all. Its not us and them at all . Its called free will and the fact of the matter is most humans are choosing this fate, NOT US . Its this classic poor me victim mentality you all insist on clinging to. Mother earth simply cannot go on living here when you people keep poisoning her. Cheap political gestures are not going to cut it. YOU have to pull your collective fingers out NOW , not later . The follow up Avatar films have been delayed over and over again by Politics. Why do you think that is ? Because the Cabal fears the message getting through ,that's why . Every time we intervene we are prolonging Mother earths suffering . She is on Life support .Do you think she really likes living like that in constant agony ? Answer me that please ? I dare you. I am not judging anyone here . YOU are judging yourselves by YOUR actions. Its called responsibility and your not taking it. Your addicts. Your addicted to self pity and hatred of anything or anyone that does not enable your addiction . And I keep saying to you all , this is the message in these films ,these artists ,these songs ,these brave people who are trying wake you up. For heavens sake listen to them. Its not about me. Your always looking for excuses to sabotage the real relationships because your pre programmed by YOUR god to do so . You talk love but you are not practicing it. You of all people should know Carol that you cannot treat/help an addict until they admit they have a problem. I am pointing you guys to the message that's there to help you help yourselves but you have to see it for yourselves. But no , that message has been sabotaged by a turncoat and all that good work Hidden from view. Apparently its all 'predictive programming' now. The prediction will come true in Avatar IF you people don't wake up. You will Kill your mother and you will have no other home to go to that we will provide. Try knocking on Hells door and ask for jehovah. He may answer it if you give him a DNA sample but I sure as hell would not . So much of your response Carol is based on secondhand leaks and dis info . Again your allowing species Labels/prejudice to color your perception and I keep telling you to stop doing that . Your relying on prejudice instead of personal experience. I don't give a tuppenny hoot what Mr Morton or any of these other 'insiders' claim to know. They are invariably dis info peddlers. When you meet a stranger on the street who feels different and you like the feeling of that person , do you judge him or her by race ,skin color ? I hope not . Okay ,supposing this stranger says hello with a beautiful warm smile and invites you to stop for a moment and have tea. You say why not and have a wonderful couple of hours chatting about anything really and at the end of it you feel wonderful but cant quite say why. Has it ever occurred to you that person may have been an ET ? ET's can take on many forms and still be authentic. You cant judge them by their body type. Ever woken up from a dream like that ? Is that what you want ? More of that ? Its there if you want it but if all you can do is feel sorry for yourself when ET tries to touch base , your not listening ,your just ranting while he /she indulges you. You guys have got to get past that . You make it so hard for us to get through . ET's will not show you their real face if you are prejudiced against them by govt disinfo/propaganda. Your here because you chose to be eh ? So what does 'source' have to say about the condition of your planet ? SO one second you say you have no idea , the next your convinced of your opinion. Well at least your consistently inconsistent. Nice Moves in the ring Rocky ! What a contender. So your still identifying this argument in terms of bodies ,species and race and I keep saying its not about that . Its about what are you doing to save the planet ? Arguing with me wont make a difference . Taking your bitch to the man will work a lot better . Growing your own food and disconnecting from the grid as much as you can will send a far stronger message than being a smart arse with me. But maybe you know better . In which case I suggest you start a thread detailing your plan for saving planet Earth and it had better be a good one. See , here's the thing . Humanity is not natural in the strict sense of the term . You are a dangerous question mark that we have tried to fix with limited success. Its like This My old China. Suppose your old girl had a fling on the side with a scientist and a test tube and you find out your sister is not your dad's daughter . How would you feel about that ? How would your old man feel about that ? I know you wont answer the question but anyway. Now here's the real point . If your mother took that sister to full term in her womb and gave birth to a child , IF she is a good mother ,she will nurture that child and give it the love it needs regardless of what issues you may have . So that's the case with Mother Earth . She did not nurture Humanity in the usual natural evolutionary way. She got lumbered with you. She got chained up , thrown in prison and forced to breed humans by Jehovah. And now you have a humanity killing their own mother as they breed like catholic rabbits. You are not powerful enough to make a difference directly .Well at least your humble enough to admit that much . We on the other hand are faced with several painful and difficult choices and sooner or later we may have to respect one of them. So lets use your mother as an example and hope she does not mind being used experimentally so to speak. The old dear has been forced to smoke and drink excessive alcohol for years while she is used as a breeder on a human cattle farm . Now ,sadly its caught up with her and she is dying of lung cancer and liver failure . (its a metaphor but you get the idea) You never liked her that much because she was never there for you and you were to busy doing your own thing but hey , now the house is up for grabs and you dont want that bitch Nordic Hybrid clone sister of yours getting it ! Your Mother Wants to die , but your still living at home and have nowhere else to go so Whadya gonna Do ? Whack her on the head and and hope nobody notices the will has been re written illegally to favor you ? Oh XXXX ! she left it to the RSPCA ! Damn. Now you cant afford for her to die so you get her put on life support in Hospital . She begs you to let her go but you dont want to loose the house so your refuse to allow the life support to be cut off. Well that makes you a bit of a bastard doesn't it ? So how does this pan out in the real world ? Your Planet is dying and your mother is in agony but humanity is not doing anything to address the problem because they want their lifestyle choices and cars and stuff. Most humans dont give a Damn about the planet until it hits them in their pocket . And it will ,it already is. So we , the ET's of christ knows how many different species finance and work on a film to try and get a simple message across . But the vegans dont like that message because the Navi are meat eaters ! and the the greenies don't like it because it does not go far enough and on it goes.......... There's always an excuse to ignore the message and attack the people trying to help ! Just like your doing here Swanny , Admiral of the rubber duck fleet. So as smug and self righteous as you are , its not going to help your planet and its not going make any difference . Meanwhile , we have to respect mother Earths wishes and give her the respect she deserves . The respect most of humanity withholds. I want her to live , but its not my decision or yours . I want to see reason prevail and ALL SPECIES benefit. Then I can go back home with a clear conscience knowing I played my tiny bit part the best I could. I have a Civvy 'human' body for a very good reason .I am a beta test being run by my me to see if I could wake up without any previous memory of who I was . I pulled it off but it took time. How ? I trusted my Heart and it lead me home to my family . A family that is ALL LIFE . Because when mother takes you back in her arms that's what you remember. So you see all your snide remarks about Nordics are meaningless because its just a label . Its part of me but only a fraction. A tiny tiny part of a vast infinite source. You claim knowledge of source but you have not experienced it yet .If you did I would know. You would not talk the way you do now. So having been diverted by the 'righteous' to long ,funnily enough ,the misdirection makes the point best. Simple choice between natural evolution and reproduction and artificial corporate slave breeding. That's what the Film Avatar is about basically .The contrast between Eywa and the machine. A dying earth and a new world teeming with life. The choice that Jake makes is between Nature and imminent death from human greed . Despite the fact that his Navi Body is a hybrid clone , Eywa accepts him as one of her own . Because deep down at a soul level of course ,he always was one of the Navi ,as was Grace Augustine. Simple message. Not hard to figure out . Choices and consequences. Choose life ,choose death . That's the choice you all face now . It's not me preaching , its the message of the film . Its the message in many films out there . Your 'God' did not create you to be free . He Stole DNA and created a slave race . If you cant see that now in this 'wonderful world' of ours where the main occupation of women is prostitution then you really are blind. You all like to typecast other species because the propaganda machine tells you all ET's are bad basically . You make all your choices based on other people's input , not your own experience . That's freedom of a sorts but soon even your thoughts will be restricted and viewed for possible deviation from acceptable Norms . What am I saying ? ! They already are. So what are you going to do while you still have some freedom left ? Be an obedient clone Hybrid human and walk to the slaughter House ? Or wake up? Sure you can make excuses when there is no water left in So cal or the pacific Northwest . 'It was those damned Nordics and Greys who refused to help , man !' 'It had nothing to do with the collapse of the Gulf/Jet stream and the electrical grid we use everyday. Okay there's the cabal and stuff but the Nordics could have stopped all that and they didn't. "It sucks Dude and its all Their fault man." Yeah sure we could intervene and Kill all the cabalists and then what ? You will replace them with more Greedy humans ? Yeah that's really going to sort things out. Sure we could give you our technology to clean up the mess and you would turn it in to even more lethal weapons and say 'hey , its our Freakin' planet dude and we can defend it ourselves' . 'Screw the Nordics man ,we got their sh** and we can give them a taste now ' No ,that isn't going to be allowed to happen. Your not a civilized Planet . You dont meet the criteria at even the most basic level. Times nearly up. There will probably be no grand farewell if/when Mother takes exit stage right . Humanity will be to busy preening their ego's and blaming whoever for the crap storm . It does not have to be that way but until you have learned to live in Harmony with nature there is no way we will share the Tech with humanity. We learned that lesson the hard way before and we don't want to go there again. When Humanity gets itself off self pity welfare entitlement from ET syndrome, then you will see progress. But the clock is ticking. So just a Quick review . I am a Nordic with a God complex who looks down on everyone and thinks I am better than you all ? Even though I dont exist and the Nordics don't care and you don't care that they don't care because you are perfectly capable of screwing up the planet without our help . Well that much we have proof of at least . Did I miss anything ? Wow . So when I tell you guys we don't consider ourselves gods and refuse to worship them, especially Yours , that gives me a god complex how exactly ? Never mind. So we have a bunch of Evil Nordics who are secretly trying to take over the world because they need lebensraum despite being part of a huge federation of many species living in peace , Because some disinfo monkey wrote a book and that 'proves' it beyond doubt. Yes it all makes sense now . The Swedes ,Danes and Norwegians are conspiring to take over the planet via their Ikea warehouse network, smuggling Nordic /human/grey hybrids in flat pack containers and making sure every home has a wobbly set of bookshelves transmitting data back to their undersea base in the Fjords !! You nailed us Guys , we confess . But there is more I have to admit to so grab your seat arms because its going to get hairy . Your Monkey gene's are recessive which means eventually you will revert to RH negatives and start singing Viking saga's .But wait, it gets worse .You will also get a compelling urge to buy a Volvo and drive very slowly but surely around the world seeking out Blond blue eyed Scandinavian's at Disco's where DJ's with a god complex seduce young virgins with their breathy smooth patois. Oh man , you guys crack me up. Now tell me , how many blue eyed Nordics did you see in Avatar ? Blue skinned very tall Feline humanoids with tails that eat meat ( oh the unspeakable horror !) sure, but I think that's a tad different. But look if your God makes you happy and you trust him to turn up at the last minute and save your planet like the last time he didn't then hey , choice is good Yah ? Seriously though for just a moment . Why are you guys so bent up about the Nordic thing ? Have we not bought you great Bands Like Abba and cost effective furniture for newly Wed's ? Does that mean nothing to you ? What have the Nordics ever done to you ? And hey , look at Iceland, Nordic central .The only country with the balls to jail the Bankers instead of increase their annual Bonus and bail them out. Its a crazy old world . Let's hear it for Jesus though because when he comes back via one of the inbred House of David Royals , we can rest easy , sure in the knowledge that a fresh batch of chintzy marriage mugs will be minted to celebrate the birth of a new Empire. Its a Miracle .He IS the messiah . No Jennetta , you save your soul . We can only encourage you to let go of the guilt and hate and start living so your soul wakes up and realizes its missing a really good party . No I am not joking . You guys ! Come on. There is a fantastic universe out here waiting for you to explore if you can just stop beating yourselves up. Why do you defend the things that make you unhappy ? All this materialism and spiritual Bird feed is just a distraction. Have you ever met a Grey in Person ? Or a Nordic or an Arcturian ? How do you know you have not ? Oh man , you don't know what your missing being so species averse. Get over it . Enlighten your self by being yourself . You don't need me to figure this out . Trust yourself . Its okay. Ask for safe happy contact , give love a chance and let the universe in . Its so simple once you get it. Sanicle, your ability to twist words and up end them to make an argument is truly epic. But everyone gets what they want . Most humans live lives of quiet desperation . They love to play the poor me record over and over and over . Then its out with the spiritual credentials card to back up their life story. A story of mind numbing boredom and repetition with a few sanitized manufactured Horror stories to justify retreating from an active life. Its what people in prison do when they are lonely and unfulfilled .They just create a fantasy world of paranoid imaginings and benevolent fairies that only they can see . My wife comes home with their stories every day . Women who hug teddy bears to replace aborted Children . Broken men who compensate for their failures and self contempt with heroic bluster and alcohol. Is this your idea of heaven on Earth ? You see them every day ,dragging their heels around and clutching their crystal balls , shopping the new age gimmicks for a cheap slice of feel good . They turn suffering in to a religion and self pity in to a marketing tool. And ET ? Well we are the Demons who are responsible . Uhuh. Why would we waste our time on that guff ? No, you go on demonizing us if it makes you feel better about your life . We will leave you alone , dont worry about that. But if the poop ever hits the fan and you dont want to take responsibility for it , blame us . Feel free , its what Demons were invented for . How do you reach a slave who is institutionalized ? You can try to reason with them but the guards run a tight ship and fear of punishment keeps most humans in line. Traumatized and reduced to parroting the party line from some book they read once with a scary picture on the cover care of CIA publishing inc. Thanks Whitley . Everyone Dies Swanny and so will you and I . Its making your life count that counts. My mother died over a year ago of systemic organ failure and motor neuron , So what ? Death happens . Do you want the Nordics to send you a condolences card ? Is that why your pissed off about our non existence ? Or an Ikea gift card ? Abba's greatest hits ? No ? Would sir care for a Swedish Penis enlarger ? Or how about a two week cruise of the Stockholm Disco's ? Hey ,now you can accuse us of being cruel, insensitive and disrespectful ! Okay, we dont exist but dont let that stop you . Humans. Always crying poor little old me . When is this pity parade going to end ? Don't you guys realize that's the trap right there ?
    Religion is all about engineering self pity and imprinting victim mentality . And man it works.  Send these grunts to war and cull the population down a bit ,then all the Cabal has to do is hire one of their masons to erect a war memorial to glorify their sacrifice. Suckers fall for it every time. Welfare is slavery with bread and circuses . The 1% steal the Earth and you get the sympathy vote . Is that good enough for you ? And you wonder why we are cynical about 'gods'. So I am making assumptions about you ? And yours about me dont count ? Its your Life Swanny. Your choice . Just don't complain about us being at fault though when we don't exist. As long as you insist on being a Human you will experience just what that means. The hue of man instead of the man. No Jenetta . You are turning it in to us and them because you want to continue claiming victim status welfare . We are all one . But of course when I say that you will retort 'That's Hive mind Mentality' . Oh dear. But the only way you can make an argument is to play the pity card. Because you like being a slave . You want the status so you know where you belong in the un natural order . That picture is not The Three Graces . It is La Primavera by Botticelli . Yes the three graces are in the picture . The orange grove denotes the house of David and the central female figure is pregnant with no doubt ,the Messiah . Anagram of Orange is Grange which means a farm. A Grainger is a farmer . Specifically a farmer of souls. Grain , obvious enough , Ger , a Gyre or rotating crown. A device for seeing far away by collapsing the time function . The Italian greyhounds do not appear in this picture though. They are sight hounds . Dogs that Hunt by sight not scent . They symbolize the ability to see far when the Bodies of the three graces are joined . Its a symbol for a physics phenomenon. The twists and turns of Human Denial ? Addiction in a Nut shell . No matter how you try to reason with an addict they will find an excuse. But if you can get them out of their wheel chair and teach them how to ride their own Crown . Then you have made progress. When you are able to see through dimensions you will see through matter and everything will be suffused with a golden orange light . The light of the inner sun . Its a wonderful place to get to . You will feel it too . Just dont abuse it for personal gain . No Greys of Nordics required . You can do this yourself without anyone's help if you have the will and the courage to overcome your physical limitations. Do you want to remain blind for the rest of your life or do you want to know how to see as the three graces do ? Yeah ,its paradise down here on planet Earth. Well it was once until your god came along . But lets not play the blame game. Enjoy your trophies , im Sure you earned them. Human Bodies are a curse to be conquered , not bragging rights for a Broken Bike. If you want to hang it in the garage until death meets you unprepared then the cabal will be happy to recycle your still un free soul in to another crippled body . If the planet still exists by then . We can only say we did what we could but they refused to listen or even try to see. In the light of eternity we are all one and the same . How we choose to express our uniqueness in that oneness is entirely up to us . We can choose to be grey, mantid, lizard ,whatever . But no matter how we choose to do it we should always reserve our freedom and never give it to anyone Else's custody . Especially when in a physical body , Unless we can trust that entity completely. A certain god decided that only he was worthy of the crown and went about stealing everyone Else's birthright . On this planet he achieved that through extreme abuse of technology ,souls and DNA. You are blind in human bodies . The only second sight most humans have is their dreams at a very basic level . Even the Bible tells you the gods blinded you and confused you. Tribal initiation if done properly can open the doors of perception. But the warrior/hunter has to be ready to go there . She or he must have humility and compassion before facing the trials . Otherwise they will be corrupted by the power that far sight gives. Nature teaches humility through experience .Farmed humans living in city's do not grow naturally . They grow up twisted by vanity ,fear and hate . No basis for a happy life or second sight to occur. The illuminati force open the doors for their chosen . But soon enough the gate they have opened is fried from misuse and they loose what they took by force instead of accepted humbly . So they initiate proxies to see for them. MK's . Disposable, kept women usually, Like Solitaire in Live and let Die. Orthy , could you please give me a brief reasoned summary of what you just posted because its a bit hard sometimes to grock such a huge download ? I will try and read through what you have posted now. I have never EVER said we are superior. I have said we work very hard to live in harmony with Nature .That is the difference Swanny . Typical programmed human response , project your own issues on the 'enemy' Accused of the arrogance you are so want to display. You dont get it because you dont want to get it. YOU get off on the abuse you suffer and inflict on others , no matter what you say to the contrary. One second you scream like a spoiled little girl because we dont help you sort out YOUR MESS. The next you deny our existence because 'we look down on you'. Do you have any idea of of how absurd you look when you spin round in such tight hypocritical circles ? The only Intelligent input I have seen so far is from Mudra . She gets it . She cares. That's the whole point . If you care you will do the right thing. If you just whine and complain and show nothing but crappy attitude your going to be left out of the negotiations. I don't give a rats arse if you believe a word of what I say but this much is certain. Your Planet is not a haven of sanity .Its a crap storm of hate ,fear and poisonous attitude and you Swanny are a perfect example of just how messed up Humans are in their attitude. If we decloaked above your house tomorrow to say hello , you would crap your pants so fast and faint ! BUT that's not what we are trying to do here. My ancestors seeded this planet a long long time ago and let nature take its course .Unfortunately Jehovah discovered it and the results are plain for even you to see. Misery suffering and a dying world. Your attitude of blame and denial is a virus ,just like your god. You worship him by using his arguments. Circular ,illogical and inconsistent . Keep going Swanny , its your own hole your digging . Hi Orthy. Hope you dont mind the short handle being used. Its like this. If your a lab rat which most humans are , you dont know who is playing you or why. You just know your hungry and sometimes the door on the right gives you a shock and some days the door on the left gives you a shock when you try to get food from it. So most humans do not speak from a position of knowledge because they have not risen above the Lab and seen the men in white coats messing with them, YET. At night though when the men in white coats have gone home to kick the dog and humiliate their wives , we try to connect with the lab rats and give them a vision of running wild through the grass. They still wake up in cage but wow , what was that dream about ? SO one day a careless scientist leaves a cage door open and a rat escapes to the wild outdoors and f**k ME ! Finds out the dream is real. He meets other free rats and they say yes , we have been trying to free you guys for years but we could not break in so we came to you in dreams . The rat then says to his wild friends "we have to go back ,there are more of our kind in there suffering unspeakably !' His wild friends want to help so they arrange a break in. But when they go back they find all the lab rats are being subjected to a new experiment involving extremely addictive drugs. They break open the cage doors but their lab friends dont want to leave. But you can be free ,the free rats say . But the lab rats say hey ,we get fed and housed and all they want is a blood sample everyday. It hurts a bit but so what. No you go back to the wild ,we are happy here. At that point , the Scientist enters the lab and see's the wild rats and goes ape s**t ! He does not want his experiment f****d up by thoughts of freedom ! So he kills the free rats and drugs the lab rats to put them back to sleep. So they think it was just a dream the next day. You can tell a lot about a woman by the hand bag she carries . Its like an advertisement for her . Leopard print and lots of gold chain says I am looking to be a sex kitten for any many who's got enough money to keep me in a Mercedes convertible and a house full of overstated excess. You know ,white furniture that no one gets to sit in comfortably and relax . Show home for show pony. Then you get the new age types with the ethnic handbags who don't shave their legs and fill their heads with non threatening fairy's and Granola rat feed diet. They obsess about astrology and tarot and whatever the next spiritual fluffy guru has to say about how beautiful they are . These women are usually the result of the abusive narcissistic Leopard print brigade. Its a circle jerk of greed and self hate . Either way , the compensations they embrace do not fill the emptiness they feel inside. Outside this closed circle of recrimination and blame a Young woman leaves home and makes her own way in the world .She keeps an open mind . Learns from her mistakes and moves on when it no longer works for her. She see's all these slave mentality types and knows only that they are not happy and at peace. She likes being in nature and dresses how she feels without regard for what other people think. She is natural. One day she meets a guy who has an easy smile and a kind heart . He does not worry much about what other people think or say either .He just does his own thing . They fall in love and find great happiness in each others uniqueness and share a life. Their children are happy and full of joy. The other women learn to hate this couple for finding what they dont have . They put it down to blind luck ! and wait for the man who will never come . Because that good man will take one look at them and see a selfish Bitch /desperate flake incapable of genuine warmth or affection, either of them. Thank you Mudra. Ever been hugged by an ET ? Its like being hugged by a Frenchman only with a bit more savoir faire. Unless that cheeky french man is an ET in disguise . In which case you get good food and good love . Works for me anyway. Love is not something that happens to you , its the place where you are love and live love and give love. Its a state of being . You dont have to search for it , its searching for you . But most people dont open the door when it knocks. You cant buy it ,you cant sell it .You can be it , then you can see it . Don't sell yourself short Orthy . That's what the men and WOMEN in white coats want you to do . Yes ,they know who you are and yes they are trying to keep you in play on their terms by messing with your head and throwing you half truths dressed as fresh food . Dont look for the food , look for the invisible bars that enslave you . Guilt ,shame, fear ,self doubt, anger ,hate. Look at how Swanny works if you need to understand these types. Always trying to get emotive responses through false accusations . But the more he plays his hand to try and get you to bite ,the more he shows his hand. Sooner or later he's going to run out of cards and unlike him I have plenty of fresh decks to choose from. And worse , I am not in the lab , I am a visitor who can walk through bars. The lab owners are the biggest experiment of all. They are experimenting on themselves behind a barbed wire electric fence ! yet they think they are in control . Now that's Dumb. Let the fools play games in their little Lab . Old souls with Alzheimer's  go nowhere fast. Right ? orthy , you spend a lot more time watching TV and films than I do ,which is good and it seems to me you are latching on very accurately to what your soul is prompting you is the right track. I took the more experiential track myself so a lot of this stuff is not familiar to me. The Important thing is that unlike most people you are seeing the subtext that underlines all these different threads /films etc. Dont forget to get out there and live though . You can only spend so much time at the feet of a master before he is going to get impatient , kick you in the Bum and say "get out there and experience truth , talking about it is just a primer ". Life is not a spectator sport . Only the dead watch from the sidelines. No worries Orthy .I will check out your work now I know about it and get back to you . So back at the Rat Lab the next day there is an urgent meeting of all the whitecoats . The conversation went something like this. "Ladies and gentlemen ,what happened yesterday was a serious breach of security that could undermine everything we have achieved here and seriously affect our profitability as well so I want all the Rats that witnessed this event terminated NOW." So after the 'guilty' rats have been taken care of the White coats try to continue their work, But now Orthy , things are not the same . Rats who used to play the game and go through the labyrinth of torture to get a feed just sit in the corner , vacant and unmotivated. Other Rats just give up and die . Punishment is meted out to Rats that dont behave . In the meantime the quality of DNA samples is degrading and profits are slumping. Consternation reigns , beards are torn and the share price slides. The junior white coats ,not having any real idea why the fuss ,start their own investigations in to exactly what these DNA samples are used for .............. But what the Lab does not know is that the Rat that escaped had children. As soon as they were old enough ,white lab rat told his Children where he came from and about the suffering he experienced there . He told them ,never go near fences with big buildings behind them , no matter how curious you feel . Its dangerous. Now the Children have lost their father and grieve for him and his brothers and sisters in the lab .They call the lab the citadel ,or city for short. A place where innocent rats are turned in to slaves and made to do things they hate to get food and live. So to give hope to their rat cousins the children learn how to leave their bodies just like all wild rats learn to do .They visit the Lab unseen and start to case the joint for a weakness they can exploit. They call themselves the Reconnaissance rats which means the Rats who want to give their cousins a rebirth and new life ,free in the wild . Time goes on and the story is passed down through the generations . A new breed of rat emerges. Passionate, focused and idealistic ,combining wild rat cunning with a peculiar and unique knack for problem solving . Meanwhile back at the lab , the white coats are forced to become more and more brutal and extreme to get the Rats to stay the course. They have some success but the increasing instability of the Rats genome from genetic engineering is backfiring. The rats seem to be hallucinating or having extended REM episodes when they sleep............. No one can explain this strange turn of events except perhaps one man. The man who owns the lab and he keeps quiet. Im building a house at the moment. The reason they want you on the grid is because they control you through the grid. Disconnect and they loose control. You nailed it Pris . Could not agree more . The PTB knows that marketing the truth with a hidden agenda is always the way to Hijack people's aspirations and needs . They are con merchants . HOWEVER , the good guys know this and play along with it because in the end , The heart decides , no matter how the message is Massaged by the cynical power brokers. Broken promises are the testimony of the Greedy and their work is writ large now for all to see . It all boils down to choice. Chicken Run ,An Aardman Production , brilliantly illustrates the dillema of humanity. Contained , harvested and plucked. For freedom to take wings you have to have knowledge and act on it . Buying the tool is one thing .Its what you do with it that determines its usefulness. Diversity is the key , not conformity . They are selling the later as the former. When your stomach is used to lies , the truth is a big mac and fries . Before France was corrupted partially by Christianity it had long evolved and still maintains a love for nature , Good food and the joy of living and loving . Its the cultural hub of Europe and a beautiful country. So I am deeply upset about the disgusting acts perpetrated by extremists in Paris. ALL religions practice intolerance and hate. All Religions harbor the conceit of being better than and empowered by a 'god' with a mandate to abuse power in the pursuit of its Mission. I have no prejudice at all when it comes to religions . Its all a huge crock . Female circumcision ( removal of the Clitoris, often with a razor blade) is disgusting but commonly practiced in the Muslim world. The demeaning and abuse of women is abhorrent to me . But the same abuses occur in every faith I have had dealings with. Pedophilia is rampant in the Judaeo/ christian faiths. Its off the charts. I am convinced the murder of innocent civilians was a false flag that plays in to the hands of the Zionist agenda . But the Zionist's play book is no longer working as well as it used to as resolve is stiffening against Israel's shocking and deplorable apartheid system. The shame game has long been a part Of Zionist covert control . Its an art practiced by all the worlds major religions though. Power hungry people prostitute anyone and everyone they can . Yet all those demi gods like mohamed ,Jesus, etc are painted up as righteous and above sin. Yeah right . Saint Paul was a notorious woman hater . The Vatican is a hub for every criminal Enterprise imaginable . Child sex/drug trafficking , illegal money laundering, you name it ,those bastards are in to it . Lecherous ,two faced sleaze bags . Loyalty and faith they call it. Moral cowardice would be a more accurate description. There is nothing more tiresome than a Christian judging a Muslim when both faiths have a common root. Fanaticism. Crabs fighting in a bucket and dragging each other down while God pours in the water and puts them all on a slow boil. Is there anything more laughable than using Churchill and Jefferson to make a case against Islam ? Jefferson the hypocrite who sold a constitution only valid for white Christians of pure blood ! Churchill, the bastard son of Nathan Rothschild, who instigated war in Europe with his machinations and blatant hypocrisy ! A bastard Jew professing to be 'christian' while he ordered carpet bombing of non strategic cities . Churchill could not order a Bacon sandwich without screwing it up. Sure , Mohamed was a sick son of a bitch and so is his legacy . But to use the words of the condemned to lend credence to your argument just demonstrates hypocrisy and duplicity , the favored tools of despots everywhere. Churchill was an incompetent windbag who twisted every word he ever uttered . Jefferson , a cynical opportunist who played all sides to line his purse and steal the moral high ground when he was not sleeping with his female slaves. But no Mention of the true and authentic wisdom of Native Americans who spoke a far simpler and straight truth.The White man speaks with a forked tongue. Condemnation from condemned men is no recommendation. " I dont want to set the world on fire, I just want to light a little Flame in your Heart" Free Speech has been denied to the majority for so long that all they know how to do is scream the company line from a very small cell in another country bound by national identity , Flags and laws. Martin Luther was Co opted by the establishment , like all genuine Hero's , to cover the tracks of the Elite and make them look good. Its an old Formula that works . So 'Free speech' from an ignorant tool of the establishment adds nothing but hot air to the dialogue . It may get a balloon off the ground , but it wont get you out of your mental prison . Meanwhile the 'revolutionaries' become willing tools of the Establishment and do the dirty work of the string pullers for them . Pinocchio never looked so helpless and unconvincing. Talking Free wont get you free. Living free is just a matter of walking through the door naked with no religion ,no politics , no skin color and no hidden agenda. Personally speaking ,I die quite often for the cause but I dont feel the need for self pity or martyrdom. I avoid it because show boating wont get hope floating . Have a nice day you lovely people and take a chill pill. Love aint that complicated sweetheart , and you need to pay the bar tab before the piano man will play our tune. I always put the onus back on the owner . Then they have to take responsibility for their freedom and happiness . True Entertainers understand that fundamental premise . Show Boaters on the other hand.................. take the retirement option and leave the ships navigation to a Captain in Persian robes playing the fiddle while the engine room burns. Okay its a metaphor but it works to get the message across. Have a nice Day and dont worry , I pick up the tab so many times My wallet can play honkey tonk while I lay some honeyed words on the show girls. I may be a fly boy but the Hookers know I don't condemn them and a dead man walking leaves his pension to the most deserving. So I was reading the tea leaves today and thought Hmm, best leave that to the experts like you know who . What these horoscope readers don't know is that shorthand is common in code writing . Here is an example .Fk tht sht m kpn t rl. Brook you need to chill out and get off your high horse because punting illuminist theology like it was truth makes about as much sense as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. One eye ,one leg , one queen bee in a locked down hive . yeah that sounds about usual. During the last war my Grandfather served VR in a number of rolls. Recon Pilot , code breaker and liaison with the French resistance. He worked directly with Medmenham (photo Intelligence), Bletchley Park (code Breaking) and flying with various X squadrons . To break the enemies plans you have to break their code and preempt their next action. THAT is why words are powerful. That is why they fear open discourse on the internet . Key boards lost the war for nazi Cabalists . Hacked keyboards of the Enigma typewriter (ultra) and paradoxically , piano keyboards ,used to send code to the resistance in France and foil the Nazi machine. Music makers and musicians became vital comms that stopped Hydra. Break the code and you break the enemies next move. Real time action Makes entertainers a vital part of fighting the REAL war on Terror. My Mentor spent his entire life preempting the cabal and pre warning of planned events so that they could be met head on . No one who dies innocently as the result of cabal actions is left to wander. WE are always at the scene of their crimes to console and assist those who are lost . My Grandfathers ability to break code intuitively was legendary . After the war he spent much of his free time In France , a hero who did much to free France from Nazi Tyranny. So my family feels deeply the hurt of Illuminist machinations in France . Its true that the cabal like to use anniversary dates for their ritual killings/events in order to nail home the message. But what they dont like to admit is all the times they have boasted and predicted an event which did not transpire because VR intervened and stopped them . So its not written in stone, the future, and its dangerous to give to much credit to the Cabal when so many of their dates fail to transpire. Indeed , all to often their Killings are turned against them and backfire . Why ? Because Death does not fix their problems with those who do not comply . The Illuminati Killed my father but he is already back , younger than me now and looking exactly the same as he did before . Immortality ? Of a sorts . Engineering the future so they can predict it and appear infallible and all powerful is an old trick but the new world order is still failing to complete because there are many who work tirelessly AND UNSUNG to stop them . No names on scrolls or remembrance day .No statues or plaques . The work is done , the Kingsman/woman retires with no recognition or expectation of it. This false flag is not the first or the last that will take place . But fabricating the future instead of creating it is a dead end . Every time individuals have the courage to point out a blatant lie they are undermining the Cabal . That is change i can believe in. So Kudos to you Burgundia for bringing this to public attention and playing a vital part . Every man or woman that preempts the cabal ,weakens the cabal . The future is yet to be won. So that's all I will say on this thread . Words are powerful. The pen is mightier than the sword and the key (board) to change in the digital age is open dialogue. Without public acceptance the cabal will fail to cement their Order .


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    Notice the Contextual-Superimposition in my threads. I do it for answers. Do we live in Purgatory Incorporated?? What if Divinity and Humanity were divorced in antiquity?? What if Humanity demanded Freedom from Divinity?? What if Divinity granted Humanity's demand?? What if Freedom from God resulted in a Prison for Mankind?? What if Humanity has been playing God for thousands of years?? What if the New World Order is Ancient?? What if ALL of US are deceived?? What if the LIE is different at every level?? I won't refine my ideas. An individual of interest told me, "Mystery is a Good Thing." No-one (except for a dozen or so researchers) will pay any attention to my threads. Then, there might be a flare-up which will result in a hundred or so unstable conspiracy-theorists acting irresponsibly for a couple of years. Then, it will all blow-over and I'll be forever forgotten (which might be just as well). I Don't Want to Argue. By popular demand, I need to stop saving the world and start mowing my grass. Actually, I need to do a lot of stuff in the yard and around the house. Guess I'm Crazy and Lazy. Besides, I Had a Stroke. Plausible Deniability. Have a Nice Eternity. Jesus Wept. More Blue Roller.

    And they did not even highlight the really juicy stuff like wiping out whole tribes and nuking whole cities ! Oh and don't forget the forced circumcisions, Abraham procreating with his daughters , Jehovah's many jealous tantrums and the whole 'my tribe is holier than your tribe' thing . YES, if you want dirt ,sleaze,incest, betrayal ,fratricide , sons of god Breaking their promise to return next week and countless other soap opera style acts of immorality to justify your own ,its all there in one tiresome, laborious, preachy package . Don't delay ,order your copy today . Available in any twisted translation your church requires to feel better than the others . But wait there's more . Order now and you also get Drosnin's latest Bible decoded prophecies that PROVE Beyond Doubt that its okay to Nuke , kill innocent Palestinian children and rule the world with the iron hand of The Torah . Because God say's so in a code nobody understands or believes . It must be true ! Batteries not included . No logic or common sense required. Any nature loving tribes excluded from this one time offer . So get right with your Psychopathic God right now . While stocks Last. Okay Brook , I think we get that your defending the indefensible by quoting out of context , twisting and mixing metaphors to make an argument and generally smearing ,slurring and defaming to make a lame point . BUT the point being made is simply this. The bible is barbaric and if your foolish enough to identify with it to justify your existence you are going to play and get played . You label Pris and I 'Odinist's' to try and get traction enough to win an argument ! Already off topic and heading nowhere fast. Religious fervor in a nutshell . All you have demonstrated so far is exactly what that video proves. Fall for the cover and you fall for the lie . Religion steal's individual identity and replaces it with blind conformity so you and everyone else who insists on a race/religious label can be played by the 'gods' for profit . Its like those 'Brave' American revolutionaries who threw the Tea over the side in Boston dressed as Native Americans so that if their Plan went tit's up they could blame the natives and justify yet another land grab like the Israeli's do all the time. Dont paint me 'anti Semitic' to make an argument . I love the soul of the person because THAT is what is real. The bible does not give you Carte Blanche to justify Evil. But it worked for Jehovah and his many aliases. Loki is the name some of my people give him but ***hole is the most popular. Show me one other creature on this planet that lives by the Bible .Just one. You cant .Because unlike brain washed humanity ,they are not that stupid. They try to live in Harmony with life not make it their footstool as Jehovah tells his chosen people to do. Jehovah despises Life and nature . People are SICK of fanatics . They want peace and harmony again . Not spiritual snake oil. Jehovah may be your god but he sure is not mine or my People's. We kicked his ass and locked him up down here for a good reason. He is a Murderer. Pure and simple. But you probably already know that don't you. Goes something Like 'There was war in Heaven (space) and the Devil and his angels were cast down upon the Earth.................' My people are used to being framed for your 'God's' Crimes but you go on ranting if you must . Pris Has met my people now and she know's what we are really like . Legally a Jew ? What does that mean ? No really, what do you mean by that ? You want to have your say then demand that your 'Race' be immune to any criticism whatsoever ? Im British . That does not mean I cant and don't criticize the British Govt for murder, lies , tyranny and betrayal . I am a Blue Blood. But that sure as hell does not stop me criticizing those idiots most of all for their shameless betrayal of their code of Honor. I was Born Church of England and thus 'Legally Christian' but I could not give a flying **** about that ! You can call me Christian scum till the cows come home and I will just Laugh my Ass off. So Religion can bash , kill , enslave and steal with impunity because its 'bad form' to bash Religion ? Why does religion have diplomatic immunity ? Because it does doesn't it ? No good reason for it but people always hide behind their faith when they need an excuse to justify Evil. Religion is offensive. Its not spiritual . Its Political. Pris is making a powerful point exactly because its power lies in its self evident simplicity . So in order to try and hide it , her adversaries resort to every kind of Projection and scapegoating they can muster, Jenetta . People live in Harmony with people. Its nothing to do with religion until the churches and politicians make it so. I have friends of every conceivable denomination but I dont care about that crap. But if they do it gets them hurt , it blinds them and confuses them . The video proves it . End of story really . But nobody wants to admit that ! And what, Please enlighten us, has this latest dump got to do with a simple video pointing out how cruel and nasty the Bible is ? You know ,its considered smart in genuinely civilized societies to lock up murderous psychopaths . Here on planet earth ,they end up Pope , President , Prime minister and reserve bank Chairman. The reason this planet is so Brutal and uncivilized is because it has the perfect blue print , THE BIBLE. If you cant or refuse to dialogue on this premise on the thread and insist on seeing smurfs under the bed instead of communists then do it somewhere relevant . Brook wants me banned for criticizing the Bible ! The Bible is a Jewish Document . You identify with it, you claim all that goes with it. Why punish yourself ? I refute it absolutely as the scandalous fear mongering pile of crap that it is. End of story .Video Proves it . History backs it up . Or do you all want another millennium of apocalypse to fear monger everyone in to submission to you and your silly prophecies ? IF Brook, as a Jew you believe life is a one shot deal then death is not going to be an issue for you is it ? IF on the other hand you have experienced leaving your body you reach the inevitable conclusion that when the body dies ,you will still be conscious and have to make conscious decisions . If you want to serve your Jewish God Jehovah you will go dutifully to the light , get stripped of all your memories and recycled dumb as a post and ready to have your empty cup filled with his Lies . Again . So take your pick Honey . Your choice . For those who have made the effort to break free and think and feel for themselves , religion no longer serves them . They see that it has oppressed and enslaved them . When they summon the courage to break free , the keys to freedom are already inside them. Vouchsafed by mother nature , not your 'god'. YOU identify your self as a Jew . I identify myself as part of a much larger family of many colors, cultures, races and species . A family free of labels like 'chosen' ,Pure , Christian and whatever other limiting definitions Earth humans choose to enslave themselves with. Your ancestors 'God' was a tyrant. An evil psychopath . End of story . Let the bastard go and set yourself free if you dare. I don't backpedal . I tell it as I see it . Simple, straightforward. You can try all those tiresome Human tricks to label , smear and dismiss but your god will still strip you naked when you die and leave you with nothing . If that's love you can keep it to yourself. I aint buying it . Nice Back peddling Brook and very extensive too . I would expect no less. I have a much simpler suggestion for you and Sanicle . Stop trying to be royal queen bee's and allow Pris to have her voice here without your trying to grandstand her with your endless , bloody endless credential stamping ! I dont give a damn how many celebs you know and blow, where you came from or where you are going. Every time you post you place yourself on the throne and expect everyone else to cow tow to your presence because you have been here longer ! Like Pris and I give a crap about that . Newbies Sanicle ? Well there's a patronizing comment if ever I saw one . Get over yourselves, show some humility . Oh and the Blue blood thing . Before your 'God' screwed up their DNA, ALL humans were rh Negative . But he spliced their genes to a rhesus Monkey for kicks . Ever seen the social habits of the Rhesus Monkey ? Not nice . You don't represent for the arts with Humility . You get on your high Horse and Dictate terms to everyone. You are rude ,arrogant and bitter. But despite Pris's repeated request's for you to just go elsewhere ,you just keep coming back with your expanding empire of Diatribe . What you really want is sole distribution rights to truth here ! How dare you steal what is EVERYONE'S COMMON RIGHT , NOT YOUR PRIVILEGE. Truth without experience is a wheelchair without brakes on a steep grassy slope to a vertical cliff. Enjoy the Flight without wings. Its gonna be a bumpy ride sister. Every time some clown represents 'for their faith ' in some fake love in , they reinforce the prejudices that keep the fight going . Its like Christians for Israel ! Yeah we will send you the bombs and aircraft to colonize Syria! Yes , we are all brothers in Old Testament blood and guts. David and Goliath Eh? Who's the Goliath Now Brook ? Palestine or Israel ? Come on ,answer the question for once . Religion is the excuse for war . Period. Churchill ,Balfour and Rothschild created the Jewish state as a Trojan Horse to gain lordship over the middle east for control of Oil and trade routes . Your 'Country' is a strategic creation. And you are the excuse they use to set the middle east on fire for money. How does that feel for you ? The more you spin to rationalize your argument ,the more absurd it looks Brook. I will deny every label you try to foist on me because I don't live in a labeled Jar . I don't live behind concrete walls and snipe Palestinian children to justify the state of Israel . I don't bulldoze olive tree's, I plant them. I admire Jews who move beyond that stupid enslaving label and choose to just be themselves. I dont give a damn about citizenship but I have to play along with passports to move freely ! That's freedom ? Not in my book it isnt. Do you approve of In breeding Brook ? Because its bad ,sorry to have to point that out , but its just not a good idea. Mayflower families do it , Jews do it because their religion tells them they must not marry 'outside' their faith and 'race' . Royalty ,well they are the worst offenders for sure . Why ? Money and power . That's why. Cant let it go outside the family even though its killing their bloodline doing so . Epstein Barr , heard of that ? Very common amongst Ashkenazim Jews as a result of close line breeding . Not very good. Nature avoids in Breeding like the plague , but Religion encourages it ! If the Queen can in breed its good enough for me . I have actually heard someone say that when they married their first cousin . Inbreeding is not a uniquely Jewish thing at all . Its frighteningly common in isolated rural communities where the Churches have more influence. I have lived in Rural communities all over the world and its always there , filling the asylums with crippled children . Its just very sad and so unnecessary . What makes you Jewish ? Your skin color , your Husbands Faith ? Truth is your body is a sack of symbiotic microbial life living in harmony so your soul can have a body to experience . Does your Gut flora read the torah ? Do your white blood cells get right with the lord at church on Sunday ? Do they even give a stuff what music your in to ? Actually they probably love the music , but the rest . I honestly dont think your body gives two hoots. My Body loves organic food , sunlight ,clean water and exercise . Doesn't act up if I don't go to church . In fact it prefers the beach and an early night with my Wife . And who can blame it . Yes Brook, its a Virus . Kinda like religion. The point however is this. Inbreeding corrodes the immune system regardless of your faith or race. Inbreeding is chronic amongst many Ashkenazi Jews and many religious cults obsessed with their 'pure blood'. Having dated an Ashkenazi Jew myself for a number of years i became very familiar with the effects she has suffered as a result . She cannot have children because her Husband suffers too from the debilitating effects of both Epstien barr and other Genetically inherited faults. They have been cursed by the folly of their forefathers and mothers. But you seem to think its funny to mock and ridicule the suffering of people you claim as your own . We shan't go in to the humiliation she suffered from her father though. THAT is truly heartbreaking. If you think misdirection and denial will avoid the effects of religious fanaticism you are in chronic denial. The effects of inbreeding are obvious and unavoidable when families or tribes vaunt themselves above others through blind faith. The Native Americans are far wiser and have strict taboos against in breeding and marriage to close kin. Would that the Religious had a more enlightened attitude to nature . Chosen by God eh ? No wonder antisemitism is rising at a rapid rate . Its a tragedy and innocent, decent Jews will suffer along with every other creed while the Elite laugh at your infantile conceits. Even as they exploit them . Madness , utter madness. And all because some 'god' declared his people above all others on the Earth . Stupidity and criminality of Biblical proportions. The middle East Eh ? talk about a breeding ground for extreme patriarchal fanaticism. Must be the lack of something or the presence of someone evil. Oh hey , maybe its that Jealous God who hates women and does not allow them equal status. Jehovah . So powerful and conceited he gets jealous if you worship someone else ! PATHETIC. Is there anything more heartbreaking than watching people you love , Jew ,Christian , Mormon, whatever , Suffering through no fault of their own ? And now Brook Threatens us with legal action because we care about the issues that hurt all faiths ? What I want to see is peace amongst all people's . Is that a crime in your book Brook ? This is not about hate. Its about taking responsibility . The world cannot much longer endure terrorism in any form. Inbreedings ill effects are not going to go away because you go to church on Sunday . It is what it is and there are consequences to all choices. One of my dearest friends in America was a Jewish Musician . A more kind and loving soul you could not wish to meet . But it wasn't about his 'Jewishness'. It was about his humanity Brook for crying out loud . I dont see the faith. I see the person . I dont care whose church they were born into . Period . End of discussion. In breeding is Okay ? Well okay . If it 'works' for you , be my guest Brook. Heaven forbid that I should advise against you sleeping with close Kin . Closer the better Eh ? No Im not going to say any more than that , but it would explain a few things. Genetic Drift ! Is that what they call they call the ill effects of inbreeding these days . You've got an excuse for everything haven't you Brook ? I knew a mother once who Sold her daughter in to sexual slavery and slept with her son. Its actually a very common phenomenon. The effects are disastrous for any family but narcissism has no ethical boundaries . So if it works For Abraham it works for his Wife I guess . The 'puritans' sure took incest seriously . Along with the Mormons and every other rabid offshoot that settled the Americas. I am not to hot on the Egyptians but Greek Legends ............ Now let me think ,what was his name ? Oedipus. Man I feel for that poor sod. Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make blind. Another Mother Once claimed for herself the mantle and responsibilities of Mother Earth and put her in chains . You call her ISIS. Why did she put her son back together and how ? Those Egyptians eh ? Oh yeah ,they took inbreeding to its illogical conclusion didn't they and look where that got them. Better Stay tuned in then and whatever you do , DON'T DROP THE SOAP. Because in this prison everyone is someone's Bitch. The bars are made from guilt and shame . Times may change but the plots the same. Am I angry ? No ,I work hard to avoid getting in to that death spiral. Sad ? yes . Bemused by religious fervor and denial ? absolutely. The Video says it all really . People are waking up to the smoke and mirrors of the propagandized perception management Mass media. They are not buying the Zionist Line, the corporate line or the Govt line any longer. Religion is mass mind control. That's all. I have met over the course of many years , many people who walked away from their religious upbringing after they had had enough of the lies ,the sexual and psychological abuse , the corruption and greed. They realized slowly and painfully how religion was used by their perps to excuse their actions. Having the courage to walk away means loosing family ,career etc. The catholic church is in desperate damage control from years of abuse coming to light across the entire spectrum of its 'good works' . The same will become more true of many other religious institutions as the people realize they are not alone in their shame and sadness. So many innocent souls raped .So many abused. And all in the name of god, Jesus, Allah, Mother mary et al. Makes me sick to my stomach . Circumcision of Girls is disgusting . Any one who comes to Australia and tries to claim moral authority to do so should be deported. No exceptions. Anyone who claims incest is a religious right should be deported . Inbreeding is cruelty ,pure and simple. It cripples innocent children and leaves them outcasts. Circumcision of boys without their own consent also is abhorrent . Its a deliberate trauma inducing event ,it induces PTSD . As a voluntary tribal initiation event at sexual maturity in a warrior culture I think its acceptable but other than that , no way. Religion makes a mockery of civility. It short circuits reason and morality and gives an excuse for any number of Horrors . For that reason my Wife refuses to have a Bible in her house and I respect that. And that's all I want to say on this thread now. Its to painful talking about this stuff. I don't want to get in to hate and anger. I just want to see a world where we are all allowed to be who we want without getting soaked, poked and raped by the Cabal and its cocktail/ smorgasbord of Religious Crap. All religion is the surrender of reason, love and compassion to hate . All religions serve one agenda .Its how divide and conquer works . If you accept the label of Jew , you are subject to a religion called Judaism. If you accept the legal definition christian, you become subject to its cannon laws. Reject the label and you are free of its legal strictures. You become you and 'god' can no longer claim you as his subject. Oh look, I came back . I MUST be the Messiah . With Love eh ? Sounds more like bitterness to me . You defend one faith so you can condemn another ? Where is the Logic in That ? You all keep going round in circles because that's what Religion gives you permission to do . You can condemn the evil in other religions while refusing to see it in your own. The funny part is none of you can see humor or Irony as result and you take everything at Face value. That is stupidity. But if you think circumcising defenseless girls makes Islam cool by all means go on backing it . Its all one religion disguised as many. I personally find that all religion is the abnegation of responsibility and if your conceited enough to take me seriously when I say I am the messiah ,what does it say about you ? Show me the church of Blue Roller. Show me where I have said I am an 'Odinist' . Life is not a religion , its to busy living to give a crap about your silly infantile preoccupations with projecting your sins on to others so you can steal ,murder and destroy for Allah. Fools, the lot of you . Ignorant ,hate filled ,power hungry ,self righteous fools. Buddhism is not a religion. Its a philosophy that was corrupted in to a religion. 'Earnestly seek your own salvation' Buddha. Lao Tsu , same thing . Religion demands obedience .Love says Its your life, your choice. Freedom without choice ? No such thing. I respectfully beg to differ . What you are doing is hijacking my input ,claiming it as your own when the truth belongs to no one person, then using my words to up end me . Kinda Like Religious people and their Messiahs do . Its like the preacher in Mosquito coast .Comes across all friendly and happy smiles until you beg to differ with his missionary Zeal and his efforts to enslave people to his faith. No SophiesChoice , your not going to play me that easily . You are trying to tar me with your brush and make me look like a bigot so that you dont have to see the bigotry that is inevitable when people hide their true identity behind the mask of Religion. You cant have it both ways . You are either you or you are theirs . When you belong to a Faith you are owned. That's what belonging means. Like I keep saying. I dont acknowledge the religion. I acknowledge the authentic person . If you choose to loose your authentic self behind the skirts of the church and hide like a frightened baby at your age then you have some growing up to do. I should not need to use Emoticons to make a cogent point . This subject is to serious to mince meanings behind half statements and plausible deniability. Its like that old BS Line 'Religious Freedom'. What that actually means is your religion gives you the right to persecute others without consequence ! In the land of the Free no less . Ah the irony . The puritans were not 'escaping religious persecution' when they went to America , they were introducing it . They got kicked out of England because they were hate filled fanatics. Incest practicing ,murderous thugs who hired a Dutch mercenary backed thug called Cromwell to enslave the people of England . The REAL Insult is Religious identity. Because religious people are ALWAYS looking for excuses to feel 'insulted' so they can wage war . "He insulted me ! " "Oh well that's it then , we are at war now. Our god has been offended." Insult Allah and a thousand human bombs can be strapped to a brain washed fool and sent in to a crowded mall. If you think that's Okay , then we have a problem Houston. No . The truth is God does not care about you and you dont want to see it. So you defend the indefensible . Buddha and Lao Tsu were right . Mans Folly lasts for a long time. Violence Begets Violence . That's the whole idea . Because your 'god' thrives on it , and all those you profess to care about are victims as a result of it. I read your words very carefully and look for contextual and syntax errors . All the Churches 'preach' love. Of course they do .Because that's how they suck people with good intentions in. But once your in , you have to accept without questions , the tenets of said Church. You surrender your right to be a free thinking moral individual and you can be used to create a consensus of hate. Its no use saying ,'well just because I go to the mosque does not mean I would Bomb people'. YOU dont have to , the fanatics do that from your donations for you . You turn a blind eye to evil and you enable it. People are not people any more when they accept the label of a faith. They are chattel , usable slaves to a lie. That's my issue. That's why I refuse to adopt any faith . I refuse to fill in the blank where it asks for your religion. I just put NONE. Do the birds flying over and nesting in Lebanon or Syria get called Muslim or Jew ? No. They simply live there. Birds don't circumcise their innocent defenseless children to imprint fear and submission. They are free to fly away and live their own lives . Why cant we ? Why do we tolerate Circumcision ? Because its 'tradition' to molest a defenseless child ? That's okay ? So what happens when the Mosques are no longer filled with Victims looking for vengeance ? What happens when all those churches are no longer able to be used as safe houses for the crimes of the cabal ? And don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about there. Buddha had to reject all faiths and dogmas before finding enlightenment UNDER A TREE. In the bosom of mother nature , Not the Ashram or the Preachers Dogma's. Religion is like a bunch of flees arguing over who owns the Dog. All sucking its blood and fighting for the crowning title. Your Dog , your addiction , your excuse for not taking responsibility . Humanity , in its arrogance ,fear and ignorance ,needs to be 'right' . The Jewish flee's lay their crimes at the feet of Muslim Flee's . The Muslim flee's ,just as drunk on the rabid blood of their host' , protest with the same words and yet all are drinking from the same bitter cup . Your 'god' is your dog . Your words carry as much weight . Your dog would have no life to live without the Mothers . But who on this thread gives due respect to them ? You worship the dog and dismiss the love that bears it . And now the flees clamor for 'justice' and take out their vengeance on the dogs owner . Jehovah ! Allah ! Come here , there's a good dog . The dog can twist and bite and growl all it wants but when its caught stealing the masters food and eating its children , the time for patience is over. In the Intelligence community they don't call it Religion , they call it Misdirection. The concept is simple .In order to deceive and manipulate your enemy , you lay down a trail of tasty tid bits manufactured to be alluring enough to lead your prey in to a well laid trap. We have all laid down crumbs to lead the Chickens back in to the Pen. That's all religion is . I have seen wild birds talking to domesticated ones . Its fascinating to watch . In order to imprint and secure the slaves to their system of thought (or rather lack of it) , the churches encourage addiction ,perversion , and forbidden pleasures of every kind . Its called the eleventh commandment. 'Thou shalt not get caught'. The mental prison bars are built with a well crafted veneer of tasty ego indulging lies and half truths . Conceit is a powerful way to manipulate people. Just tell them they are 'special' or 'chosen of god' and they will have a sense of Mission and entitlement. Before you know it they will use every sleazy trick in the book to line their pockets and acquire as much power and influence as possible for 'their god'. There is a Famous piece of literature that everyone knows Called hamlet and in his famous soliloquy he ponders the meaning of bridging two worlds. The living and the dead. He is talking about OBE. To sleep, perchance to dream. For in that sleep of death WHAT DREAMS MAY COME. (Robin Williams Film)...The dread of something after death ,the undiscovered country (Star Trek) ,from whose bourn (jason) no traveler returns.............Those who would dare to dream will no longer be in chains . To overcome the fear of death you must face it . Alone. In the cave of your own mind . Where the monster implanted by religion waits to be slain . Jesus cant do it for you . No one but you . Who exactly funded and enabled ISIS and all these other wack jobs ? Christian/Jewish power brokers ,that's who. And your trying to convince us that Jesus is the answer ?! You took their land ,their oil , their independence and now you get the blow back. I dont care which bloody religion it is. Your all barbaric self righteous fanatics who use god as an excuse to murder ,rape ,torture and despoil. Your 'god' is playing all these religions to drive his own agenda . First rule of conquest . Sow disunity amongst the people. Is there any thing more galling than listening to a Christian painting the kettle black ? Two thousand years of war,crusades , genocide ,inquisitions of unimaginable horror and you think Jesus Is the answer ? There is this phenomenon called scapegoating. Might wanna look that up if you read anything other than that damn bible of yours. Jesus was a poster boy/ front man for Jewish power brokers. The acceptable face of financial/religious terrorism ! Nothing ever changes . The Romans were no better but they needed a new angle to prop up their power base and embraced their enemy. Its called the ROMAN catholic church. No ,I am not defending Islam. Its disgusting . Probably the most overtly abusive religion to come out of the middle east yet . But then the middle earth has always been the breeding ground for fanatics of every stripe. Money grubbing , female humiliating sleaze bags . Decency and respect is innate, you dont need to go to Church/synagogue or Mosque to be a virtuous person. In fact your more likely to be virtuous avoiding those dens of iniquity and perversion. If you surrender power and responsibility to a 'god' ,don't be surprised when he does things you don't like. Lazy people look for 'God' to do it for them . The devil makes the same proposition. Let me take care of it for you ! Trust me ! Welfare state ,same thing .Communism, fascism, religious affiliation. Support us and we will support you . They are all protection rackets. They are all pimping you for profit. In the old days they called it paying tribute. You had to submit a regular donation to keep up the policy. Yes there you have it Sophieschoice . You just proved my point . Any god you like BUT YOU MUST PICK ONE . That's Choice? No, Its the illusion of choice. They are all one and the same . How ? Because all these gods Tell you exactly that. Funny thing eh ? Coincidence ? hardly. Choose me and I will be anything you want me to be as long as you just surrender to me ! Talk about the devil and the deep blue sea. Amazing how twisted the mind of a believer can be and still be convinced they are right. Is that the same logic you would apply to someone who asked you to jump off a cliff to prove your faith ? Because they get people to do that ,the 'gods'. The question I would ask is "who is raising who up exactly" The parents, the church ,Jesus, allah, some dude down the road who likes kids a little bit to much? Innocence is a precious thing. When  loving parents have children they protect them ,love them , teach them, and hopefully encourage them to think for themselves. Church says " Dont think ,just believe in Jesus/Allah/Jehovah or who the hell ever and put your blind faith in our God ,our religion and our way ' Otherwise you will go to hell . Circumcision is 'gratis' (thanks for nothing) but the guilt you will be paying out for a lifetime . Some deal. Every religion knows the best time to get adherents is when they are young and vulnerable to suggestion/manipulation. There is nothing cute about forcing kids to look cute and sing fluffy hymns at church. I Hated it . Jesus wants me for a Sunbeam ! Barf. It should be Illegal to press any religion on innocent minds . Its a violation of the mind, not care. Children instinctively sing , paint, create and play. They are already in the kingdom of heaven. The church takes them out of it and puts them in a mind prison of fear and lies and Bible class. 'Oh god please not the Bible class Mum , its all thou shalt not do this and thou shalt worship that and I am not worthy lord to suck your toenails clean with my desert parched tongue...................' And Kneeling in church to pray ! Why does god need you to grovel before he will listen ? What does that say about him ? Nuke Hypnotize. Here's a good definition of Religious Writing. Every institution driven by the lust for power uses the innocent and the naive to front their agenda, their hidden agenda. As a father nothing is more insulting to me than religion. It's gods excuse for war, hate and famine. Look how many churches are being exposed as abusers of children . Choir/altar boys are fodder for lecherous priests . TV prostitutes children everyday to sell garbage with a cute innocent smiling face wrapped in corporate cotton wool. Is there anything more sickening than a politician kissing babies ? Then you have the sickly sweet machinations of the 'spiritual' . All talk , little substance. I used to sing in a Choir Carol BUT I did so because I enjoyed it , not because I was compelled by guilt and the iron hand of the 'righteous'. I love music passionately and indeed it is my business ,which makes it even harder to watch the Beauty of life raped by the cynical marketeers of religion etc. Power for its own sake invariably hides behind the mask of beauty . All the more effectively to seduce the unwise . Beauty cannot be denied though and we all of us Know that. We grieve the loss of it and consumed by anger and grief , lash out . Nazi Germany is but one example . A great tragedy to befall such a beautiful country. The land that bought us Bach and Beethoven . Interesting isnt it , how those who steal the moral high ground by twisting the words of others like to consider themselves the high priestess of truth ? Fascinating to watch how someone who worships a burning man consuming her son's ashes can accuse another of 'worshiping death' when he simply said he has overcome his own fear of it and volunteers to defend the innocent against Circumciser's. Its a quick snip and then the Rabbi puts an innocent boy child's freshly cut penis in his own mouth ! Interesting how such a diabolical act can be condoned . Religion. No morality required. Just rabid denial and projection of your own sins on to those who are trying to protect the innocent . Where I was born its neither condoned or widely practiced. But in the 'land of the free' its a routine Hospital Practice done WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE PATIENT . They strap the baby to a board so it cant struggle then slice the poor little child's most sensitive exposed organ. Oh and please dont try to sell me the 'health benefits' . What a crock. Charming . No actually its just plain disgusting. But hey ,that's America for you . Where the constitution protects religion's from justice and the devil takes the hindmost. My country right or wrong eh ? No country that professes to love freedom should be 'the worlds police force' . Or kill people in electric chairs. In god we trust , everybody else pays us in cash , tribute and enslavement. Stars and prison bars. Oh say can you see by the sun's fading light. A bunch of self righteous puritans. Looking for monopoly on right . We came saw and conquered under the false flag of freedom. In the land of the coward and the home of the weak . Until the darkness is exposed to the light it will go on predating on the innocent Carol. Everyday I make a huge effort to do what I can to heal wounds. I am all to familiar with the dark side and its consequences. My wife works with the abused everyday and brings home her pain . She needs to talk it through with me to cope with it. So she can go back and help these people heal. I play my part dont worry about that. Religion is not going to stop predating on the innocent until they are exposed for the criminal organizations they are. Political correctness says " cant we all just get along ?" Justice says 'ENOUGH'. You don't fix the problem by ignoring it. It is made very Clear to my Wife in her work that ignoring abuse IS ENABLING IT . Therefore she has a clear and legal duty to report it whenever she see's it . As should we all. Because when we turn a blind eye the innocent suffer. Predators are cowards who bully and betray those least able to defend themselves. Religious affiliation is their favorite cover. Poverty and free shiite . What a combination. Its a win win for walmart , a loose loose for everyone else . You know you can get all the raw materials you need to build an IED at Walmart ? Oh that's its , funding terror through the back door ! By going through the front door. Genius. Walmart makes it easy. Gotta love those guys. NOT. I was not trying to have a dig at you Carol. What I was trying to say is how tragic it is to see all that's good and beautiful exploited . It hurts . It hurts a lot. I don't have the time or the computer literacy ( I hate computers) to dig up stuff and attach it . I just say what I think . We all got used/abused as kids didn't we ? We all know what its like to be bullied , ridiculed and marginalized by a system that exploits our vulnerability. I learned early to fight back and never give way to bullying from other students or Teachers. I never picked a fight but I ended a few when pushed to far . The predators normalize tyranny so people think its 'just the way it is' . You don't see that in the natural world. You will get brief disputes over territory and mating rights sure , but not the sinister extremes that humanity endures. There is nothing acceptable about forcing women to cover themselves up and be turned in to domestic slaves for their Husbands pleasure and disposal. Nothing can persuade me Religion is anything other than Mind control and slavery . I therefore refuse to allow proselytizers of any stripe to dictate to me or my family . If they persist with their mind rot ,they get both barrels. Metaphorically speaking of course. There is a turning tide now where the victims are refusing to submit and standing their ground . I applaud their courage and I support them by letting them know there are people out there who share their outrage and understand /care about their pain. Now that these victims have a voice they are at last getting the respect they deserve instead of being cowed by church fathers . Silence is a slow death . Speaking truth and living it brings lasting peace. Not some guy tortured on a cross and 'dying for your sins'. Like its Our fault he got nailed up ! yeah right . So its not okay to express myself freely ? Its Pris's thread. If she has a problem with my input then let her decide . You accused her of being swine for pointing out the abuse of innocent children by Nazi's. That's my definition of rude. And hey , if nailing religion to the cross gets me banned its another nail in the coffin of yet another 'free speech' Forum. SO your a Lioness Eh ? well that's being up front isnt it ? Classic Limited hang out disinfo from a trained assassin using his 'death smile'. A lot. That's why they are called smiling assassins and they do smile just like this guy does as they come in for the Kill. He is a reaper . Subtext is " The price you pay for knowing the truth is death" Perfect timing .But ultimately futile. Is he telling the truth ? Some of it has elements of truth . But its compromised by its economy. Same with Simon Parkes . They throw a few bones to chew on but the meat has already been removed . The real Message. Finding out the truth and pursuing it will cost you your life. The fear based commands in the subtext do the damage while the conspiracy hounds woop for their new disclosure Hero. Typical US cointel leakage. And on that final note I will take my Leave.





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    Consider reading volumes 3 and 4 (1 Chronicles to Malachi) of The SDA Bible Commentary straight-through, over and over, for several years, just to see where it leads. It is heavily influenced by KJV and EGW but it is not particularly central to Judaism or Christianity as we have known them to be. What if this is a road-less-traveled which is hidden in plain-sight?? I keep thinking the SDA scholars had 'help' from the Vatican. I have no proof or mysterious stories but the language and editorial-slant is irresistibly-intriguing. What if Pope Pius XII had something to do with this?? What Would Dr. Taylor Marshall Say?! I hesitate to wade into this spiritual-quicksand, especially when I suffer from relentless hamstrung-misery of a nefarious-nature. I hate to keep complaining but I think this is central to understanding what the hell is going on with orthodoxymoron. I wish I knew the whole-story. On the other hand, perhaps I'm really NOT supposed to know. Perhaps ignorance is bliss and virtue. I just think the Jesuits and Agencies know exactly what is going on, but they never tell me anything. As I keep repeating, 'RA' told me, "The Jesuits Don't Like You but the Inhabitants of Phobos Like You." I might've paraphrased and combined the material in that sentence for brevity and clarity. Anyway, I'm tired, miserable, and rambling (worse than Brandon).




    God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had* by himself purged* our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore* God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool*? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

    Therefore* we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will? For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little* lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. But we see Jesus, who was made a little* lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee. And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

    Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house. For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house. For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God. And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after; But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. Wherefore* (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily**, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses. But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

    Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh* day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein*, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and* spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not an high priest which cannot* be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

    For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins: Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity. And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins. And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and* supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec. Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

    Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if* God permit. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them* by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak. For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end: That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises. For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, Saying, Surely* blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee. And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise. For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife. Wherein* God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

    For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually*. Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better. And here* men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. And as I may so say*, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him. If* therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood,* (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life. For he testifieth*, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. And inasmuch as* not without an oath he was made priest: (For those priests were* made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. And they truly were* many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: But this man, because he continueth ever*, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; Who needeth* not daily*, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

    Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and* sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least* to the greatest*. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

    Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary. For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein* was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread*; which is called the sanctuary. And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all*; Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant; And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot* now speak particularly*. Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God. But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people: The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood. For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book*, and all the people, Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear* the second time without sin unto salvation.

    For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year* continually* make the comers thereunto perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Above when he said*, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And* every priest standeth daily* ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool*. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; And having an high priest over the house of God; Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering;* (for he is faithful that promised;) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions; Partly*, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used. For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward. For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. For yet a little while*, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

    Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age*, because she judged him faithful who had promised. Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed* to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff. By faith Joseph, when he died, made mention of the departing of the children of Israel; and gave commandment concerning his bones. By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment. By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures* of sin for a season; Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned. By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace. And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. Women received their dead raised to life again*: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword*: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins*; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

    Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about* with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. Now no* chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby*. Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed. Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby* many be defiled; Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward*, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear* and quake:) But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: For* our God is a consuming fire.

    Let brotherly love continue. Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby* some have entertained angels unawares. Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor* forsake thee. So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein*. We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come. By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name. But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased. Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. Pray for us: for we trust we have a good conscience, in all things willing to live honestly. But I beseech you the rather to do this, that I may be restored to you the sooner. Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. And I beseech you, brethren, suffer the word of exhortation: for I have written a letter unto you in few words. Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you. Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you. Grace be with you all. Amen*. [Written to the Hebrews from Italy, by Timothy.]

    James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing*. If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted: But the rich, in that he is made low: because as the flower of the grass he shall pass away. For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways. Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried*, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. Let no man say when he is tempted*, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted* with evil, neither tempteth he* any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Do not err, my beloved brethren. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

    My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw* you before the judgment seats? Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can* faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute* of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone*. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith*, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise* also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

    My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body. Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth*. Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind*: But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can* the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh. Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth* not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure*, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

    From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot* obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever* therefore will be* a friend of the world is the enemy of God. Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy? But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will*, we shall live, and do this, or that. But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you. Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh. Grudge not one against another*, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door. Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience. Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy. But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation. Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms. Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months. And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit. Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.


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    A Psalm of Life

    What the Heart of the Young Man Said to the Psalmist

    Tell me not, in mournful numbers,
      "Life is but an empty dream!"
    For the soul is dead that slumbers,
      And things are not what they seem.

    Life is real! Life is earnest!
      And the grave is not its goal;
    "Dust thou art, to dust returnest,"
      Was not spoken of the soul.

    Not enjoyment, and not sorrow,
      Is our destined end or way;
    But to act, that each to-morrow
      Finds us farther than to-day.

    Art is long, and Time is fleeting,
      And our hearts, though stout and brave,
    Still, like muffled drums, are beating
      Funeral marches to the grave.

    In the world's broad field of battle,
      In the bivouac of Life,
    Be not like dumb, driven cattle!
      Be a hero in the strife!

    Trust no Future, howe'er pleasant!
      Let the dead Past bury its dead!
    Act,--act in the living Present!
      Heart within, and God o'erhead!

    Lives of great men all remind us
      We can make our lives sublime,
    And, departing, leave behind us
      Footprints on the sands of time;

    Footprints, that perhaps another,
      Sailing o'er life's solemn main,
    A forlorn and shipwrecked brother,
      Seeing, shall take heart again.

    Let us, then, be up and doing,
      With a heart for any fate;
    Still achieving, still pursuing
      Learn to labor and to wait.

    Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
    1807-1882



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    Don't Laugh. Your Daughter Might Be Inside.

    Archangel ??? = Lilith = Enki = Martha Jones = Jupiter Jones = Indiana Jones = Richard Hillary = ????? Who Knows?? Dr. Who?? Who?? Regarding the images and videos below -- I had a 1975 AMC Pacer (purchased by my parents in 1975). My father drove a "Ghostbuster" 1959 Cadillac Sedan de Ville while working at CBS (with 076 CBS plates -- if I remember correctly -- or was it CBS 076??). He kept the stars cool. I spent a significant amount of time within CBS Television City in "Hollywood" (throughout the building). The atmosphere was heavy and a bit strange. The Executives Could Burn a Hole Through You -- Just by Looking At You!! The CBS Eye is Always Watching!! The 1977 movie Oh God!! was extremely prophetic of my pathetic-life -- and I didn't see that movie until probably 5 years ago!! I even drove a CAB!! My name is quite similar to Dr. Venkman (in Ghostbusters)!! Notice that Darth Vader also involves D.V. What Would David Mann (from Duel) Say?? What Would David Bowman (from 2001: A Space Odyssey) Say?? What Would David Bowie Say?? What Would Alan Rickman Say?? Is Azazel a Victim?? The Russell Crowe and Ben Affleck thing is somewhat creepy to me!! What Would Mitchell Say?? Something is REALLY Screwy about my life!! What Would Jupiter Jones Say?? I was honestly born in the "House of Leo" (but not astrologically)!! Jupiter Ascending = Jupiter Rose?? What Would David Rose Say?? What Would Judy Garland Say?? What Would Red Skelton Say?? What Would Michael Landon Say?? Some of you might know what I'm talking about!! Please remember that I'm modeling a general-phenomenon in a highly-speculative manner. Take this Siriusly -- but not too Seriously!! What Would the Prince of Sirius Say?? BTW -- I lived next to that olive-orchard shown below. What Would Glen Hill Drive?? The fan in my laptop just went into overdrive -- which probably means that someone is messing with my computer -- possibly because of the content of this post.

    I'll read and re-read these U.S.S.S. Threads -- but I'm honestly burned-out and quite-miserable -- so don't expect a lot of responsiveness out of me. I'm in the middle of attempting to understand some problematic key-concepts in my theological-education -- and it's not going so well. I really don't wish to drag others along with me down a really-nasty rabbit-hole. I certainly do not wish to bog any of you down with my heavy-spirit. I don't socialize much -- and I'm contemplating becoming even more isolated. I honestly appreciate buoyant-spirits and profound-logic -- but it's the sort of thing one must become immersed in -- in order to properly comprehend and respond to. I'm just not up to speed at this point -- and I might not be vibrating fast enough for this sort of discourse for the remainder of this present incarnation. I think I'm screwed in more ways than I can imagine. The plan was probably to build me up -- and then cut me down -- but I screwed-up everyone's plans by being a screw-up. Sorry about that. An Absolutely-Obedient Exemplary-Telegenic Perfectly-Possessed Teleprompter-Reading Eschatological-Scapegoat should be easy to find. I respectfully request that whatever bad-things have significantly and nefariously happened to me and/or will happen to me -- be mercilessly-avenged (even if it takes all-eternity). I'm talking about the really-major stuff. It's all fun and games until someone loses a wiener!! What Would Set Do?? What Would Osiris Say?? "*&^%$#@!!!!!"???? What Would Isis Do?? What Would Horus Do?? What Would Serqet Say??

    Consider one last minimal-list (as a mental and spiritual exercise):

    1. Job through Malachi (NKJV).

    2. Prophets and Kings (Ellen White).

    3. Volume 4 (Isaiah through Malachi) of the SDA Bible Commentary (1977 Edition).

    4. Daniel 8:14, the Day of Atonement, and the Investigative Judgment (Desmond Ford).

    5. The United States of the Solar System: A.D. 2133 (Books One to Eleven).

    6. The End of the World, A.D. 2133 (Lucio Bernardo Silvestre).

    You might not be able to find The End of the World, A.D. 2133. I've looked high and low for information about that book and it's author -- with no-luck whatsoever (even with the help of a librarian). My book was in the Library of Congress -- but that particular book is no longer available. I paid dearly for my copy -- and I'm beginning to wonder if it's the only one?! It's really creepy that I got fixated on that A.D. 2133 termination-date for the 2300 days/years of Daniel 8:14 -- and then happened to find that book on Amazon -- at a very-high price. I waited for many months, until they lowered the price, before I bought it -- but it was still very-expensive. It's unbelievably complex and articulate. It reminds me of the apocalyptic-work of Isaac Newton!! Who Knows?? It's almost as if the book were specifically intended for me!! I like the book -- with the exception of the last couple of chapters, which are quite horrific and harsh. I'm trying to achieve some sort of Galactic-Justice without Fire and Brimstone. I'm a Law and Order kind of guy!!

    I think William Miller got it wrong. I think the SDA Church got it wrong. I think Desmond Ford got it wrong. I know that I don't know BUT an Investigative and Executive Judgment between now and A.D. 2133 wouldn't surprise me one little bit. What if we live in a Universe of Ruthless-Conquest and Kangaroo-Courts??!! PLEASE Study All of the Sources Listed Above (with the probable exception of that last item). I think this might be EXTREMELY Important!! I don't think you all realize how utterly screwed we might really be!! If you studied what I've studied -- spoke with the individuals of interest I've spoken with -- and agonized over the whole mess as much as I have -- you'd probably be as screwed-up as I am (or worse)!! But you would KNOW!! Notice that I'm not trying to get you to join the SDA Church (even though I include a lot of fringe and out of date SDA material). I continue to consider myself as being sort of a Renegade French Jesuit Organist (even though I'm not even close to that description)!! I think I'm truly a Lone-Nut!! But I think certain members of this forum KNOW Exactly What I'm Talking About!! I think the City-States KNOW Exactly What I'm talking about!! Unfortunately, I think Mankind might have to Learn the HARD-WAY!! This might NOT End Well!!

    What would an extensive Old-Testament Major and Minor Prophet Study reveal?? You know -- Isaiah through Malachi. I tend to shy-away from prophecy. I don't usually play numbers-games -- or indulge in speculative futuristic adventures BUT what if these 17 books are somehow a script or a verdict which MUST be followed (rather than being predictive in nature)?? What about Messianic-Prophecy and Eschatology in the Major and Minor Prophets?? What is the Law of God revealed in these 17 books?? Deuteronomy?? Proverbs?? Both?? Neither?? I've started reading Volume Four of the SDA Bible Commentary -- which covers Isaiah through Malachi. Some of my former teachers are contributors. The authors of that volume are SDA Scholar Rock-Stars!! One shouldn't take their 1950's work lightly. This was a different era, wherein the Bible was seemingly taken more seriously than more recently. In many ways, I'd rather just live in the NOW -- but I seem to be compelled to properly deal with history as a prerequisite to being properly-qualified to deal with the present and the future.

    I get the sinking-feeling that this game is NOT what we might wish for it to be. We tend to interpret what is happening to us in terms which make us feel good about ourselves -- but what is the REAL REALITY?? I think I've gotten WARM within my two latest U.S.S.S. Threads -- but I don't think I've gotten HOT. Please at least read that SDA Bible Commentary (volume 4 -- Isaiah through Malachi). I mentioned the possibility of a missing Inter-Testament Old-Testament Commentary. Well that volume might approximate such a commentary. What if 99% of humanity have gotten it wrong -- lifetime after lifetime after lifetime?? What if humanity is running out of lifetimes?? Regarding Religion -- What If Bigger Does NOT Equal Righter?? What if "getting it right" primarily involves getting Isaiah through Malachi right?? How much of Genesis through Song of Solomon is contained or discussed in Isaiah through Malachi?? How much of Matthew through Revelation is genuinely prophesied in Isaiah through Malachi?? How much of the Old-Testament is contained or discussed in the New-Testament?? Does each religion and church MAKE the Bible Say What They Want It To Say?? Is God the Father perfect in the Bible?? Does God the Father keep the Ten-Commandments?? Is Jesus perfect in the Bible?? Does Jesus keep the Ten-Commandments?? Are the Angels perfect in the Bible?? Do the Angels keep the Ten-Commandments?? Is the Bible simply a Tool to Keep People In Line?? Why do I feel as if I might be in conflict with Both Humanity and Divinity Within This Particular Solar System?? What if I'm NOT From Around Here?? Is It OK for US to Compete with God?? Is It OK for God to Compete with US?? Once again -- consider Possibility-Thinking Relative to Sacred-Scripture.

    Is the New-Testament really a product of the Roman-Empire?? Have we lived under a Roman-Empire since the Second-Century B.C.?? Is the Roman Catholic Church just the Tip of a Roman-Empire Iceberg?? Is the Roman-Empire the Real Secret-Government?? Is the Roman-Empire controlled by an Orion--Babylonian-- Egyptian--Persian--Grecian--British--Israel Empire?? Does the Roman-Empire do the dirty-work for a Huge and Ancient Galactic-Empire?? What if Past, Present, and Future Politics and Religion MUST be Combined with Science-Fiction to get-at what is REALLY Going-On in This Solar System?? Am I risking my life by uttering such things?? Don't Be Frightened. I Mean No Harm. Not Much, Anyway. For Now. Consider the possibility of the Editorial-Content of Patriarchs and Prophets -- Prophets and Kings -- and The Desire of Ages -- as having Messianic-Significance in a Non-Traditional Sense. The Medium is the Message?? What Would Marshall McLuhan Say?? Think Long and Hard About What I Just Said.

    Anyway, I thank all of you for taking the time to talk to me. It adds a lot to what I'm trying to communicate. I combine a particular conceptual-core with the profound embellishments of others -- which produces a delightful potpourri of enlightenment. I've enjoyed our conversations over the past few years. I've completed my threads (for now) and I intend to privately reflect upon the territory covered in this pseudo-intellectual quest -- as a somewhat focused research-project. I'm sure I don't have the answers. Just the questions. I know that I don't know. No matter how one puts things together (pursuant to the truth) it always seems to be wrong. I'm OK with that. I'll just keep asking questions -- and seeking answers -- mostly privately. Someone once said "The World is Full of Questions. The Idiots Are Full of Answers." I recently posted that quote -- and then removed it. I thought it was too harsh -- but perhaps I should've kept it. I think I might be one of those idiots. I've been repeatedly told that I need to "Empty My Mind" But How Do I Empty My Mind When I'm Already a Completely Ignorant Fool?? Perhaps what I really need is a Real-Education in a Subterranean 600 Square-Foot Office-Apartment in a Cool-Location. Hope Springs Eternal. What Would Gizeh-Intelligence Say?? East of Giza is a Pyramid-Scheme?? I should STOP!! They have ways to make me STOP!! Many Ways...


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    You've Been Repeatedly Warned...

    I should finish my BR Download tonight or tomorrow, and I'll try to give it a rest for a while. However, I have some historical material to post relative to current posting by me and others, but I might not start with that for another week or two. Actually, I might not start. Period. It's getting that bad. As you know, I try not to dig too deep and fast, and I honestly could, but I'd rather not. I am honestly miserable and hamstrung to an unimaginable extent. God Got Me?? The Matrix Made Me Do It?? Damned If I Know. Damned If I Don't Know. Damned If I Do. Damned If I Don't. Damn.

    If your so happy ,why do you protest and project on to me your own inner anguish , City Dweller ? Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds. Or makes exceptions for those who do not tow the party line. If your 'happy' then that's all that matters . But when some people protest to much its hard to avoid the impression there is unresolved hand baggage. Why do you even bother with 'worst offenders' ? Let it go . Before I came along ? Did we have some kind of secret Trist I am not aware of ? Did you develop some kind of attachment to me ? You see ,whats happening is that you are subconsciously emoting towards me to fill an emptiness . Now I am not judging you for that. You are. This is what happens when loneliness confronts truth. Don't be ashamed of what your feeling , get more aware of what your really saying . Through all the vicissitudes of corporate lab management a bright innocent young assistant starts work. Fresh out of University with a Degree in applied cloning technologies .A rookie with a soft heart in the wrong game. She starts out at the bottom ,cleaning out the cages , monitoring the new births and doing all the grunt work for the lab techs and senior research scientists . One day she watches a mother rat give birth ,fascinated by the loving attention the mother gives her new babies . For reasons she cant quite explain she feels compelled to keep a close eye on this litter. After a while she notices one young rat amongst all the pink eyed albinos has astonishingly beautiful bright blue eye's . She picks it up out of the cage and stares in to its eye's, captivated by the color and sparkle behind it . Then she does something that is a cause for instant dismissal .She gives it a name . Worse, she fakes its death in the Log book and takes it home. The name she gives the Rat is Nordy . Nordy becomes more than just a pet , he becomes her best friend because he is so funny ,cheeky and alive . She could swear he listens intently to her when she talks to him and he watches her when she sits at her lap top, patiently observing . On weekends she takes him shopping and he snuggles in her Blouse , peaking his head out as she wanders through the market . He is quite simply adorable . She gets a tee shirt made that says 'love me ,love my rat'. Its a joke but its somehow serious too. And it becomes Nordy's favorite top too. Nordy and Sarah become inseparable but she knows she must keep Nordy a secret from everyone at work. If word got out she would be the laughing stock and loose her job . She cant see why its such a big deal but its in the contract for some stupid reason......... One thing is for sure .You dont learn much about life or nature living in a cage or box. Often the prison isn't physical but mental .People in Fear are afraid to take risks of any kind. In its extreme form its called agoraphobia. Most people have a milder sub clinical form which is sanitized and called Normality. So its okay to be normal ? I don't think so . People who are in a constant state of fear tend to lash out for no apparent reason , but look a bit deeper and the reason is actually quite obvious. Sensual deprivation or in the common tongue , loneliness. But since loneliness is equated with failure , no one will admit to it openly. Travel for any length of time on your own and you will overcome shyness . The isolation combined with confronting each day as it comes soon teaches you to be adaptable and open. In the old days they called it pilgrimage or peregrination . Normality frowns on freedom so it replaces it with the Bullshit equivalent , Democracy . Or mob rule for short. Sameness replaces individuality and cloning starts to make sense to people who want to be THE SAME. funny how that works. There comes a breaking point when the self denial can no longer be contained and the lonely person reaches that place called desperation and shouts out . It could be a friend or work colleague or online acquaintance but whoever it is will have to process a barrage of pent up emotion . Ordinarily that pent up emotion is cynically channeled and harvested by the Church and state and corporate world for profit . But sometimes it leaks out elsewhere . Art , music , riots , forums. In dreams , the soul is trying to tell a story too , but most people make no effort at all to interpret their Dreams . That's a great loss . So what do most people do to damp down this emotional Fire ? They reinvent it and start to lie . They make up cover stories just like their govt does. Women can be the worst offenders in this regard . If they are attracted to a man they wont just say 'Hey fella I totally fancy you ,why dont you invite me out sometime ?' Oh no . Quite the opposite. They will make a scene over some silly thing and expect you to figure it out . Men then find themselves in the dubious entrapping position of decoding an agenda that is deliberately ambiguous and men don't like ambiguity. This is where it pays to do your Handbag Psychology homework guys or face the consequences. Failing that the avatar they choose is usually very indicative. Women are born advertisers. What made you think I was talking about you ? Do you suffer from the delusion you are the only female on the planet too ? If you don't believe me , try checking out the availability of a wide range of handbags that cater to every psychological profile down at Victoria markets . Or David Jones has a good selection if your taste leans more to the conventional . Controlling women is very profitable for the cabal because many women will happily pay twice as much for clothes/accessories of half the quality than men will put up with. Men have many faults but by and large they are better able to asses the relative real value of things and not waste so much time on body and clothes Image. Isolating women from real choices by indulging their vanity is the Cabals main tool of control. The cabal is male dominated so what would you expect ? In the mean time I have a story to tell and the story is not based on you or anyone else on this forum . Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental . Enjoy the ride . The story Tellers and cartoonists are an interesting bunch. Traditionally anarchic they get away with telling the truth by anthropomorphism .Turning their stories about humans in to animals. Pinky and the Brain Being a classic example amongst many . Professional psychology is a rats nest of abuse. Easily seduced by the influence they enjoy over their patients , many mental health professionals prey on their clients . But if you can find a good one they can be an enormous help in dealing objectively with your unresolved hand baggage. That's why they limit hand luggage on planes. Because women carry way to much . Just kidding. Nordy did not mind being left at Sarah's home and having the run of the house everyday at first .He toilet trained himself and never left a mess . Pee went in the pot plants and the toilet seat was always left up for him to do his number two's. Sarah was that rare female who could accommodate a male rats needs and not make an issue out of it . But eventually his curiosity got the better of him and Sarah , being an intensely practical introverted type had a very large leather Handbag she took to work . Nordy just cadged a lift one morning when she was not looking. He knew he was not supposed to so it was the first secret he kept from her . He felt bad about that but he also felt very protective of Sarah and needed to know what she did during the day . Sarah had only a basic security clearance at the Lab and worked in the nursery section only. She had no access to the other parts of the lab at all. Better perhaps if she had never found out what happened elsewhere. But in the canteen she started to notice a guy that drew her eye . He was a techy by the look of it . Some what careless of his dress habits but he had an easy and kind smile . So one day Sarah deliberately accidentally spilled some coffee on him as she squeezed past him . That's how they met , over coffee. Destiny ? perhaps. One thing lead to another and Mike who had fancied her too from the first time he saw her took her out on a date. First date's are not for pets so Nordy had to stay at home . He was cool with that because he liked Mike. Its a given on this planet where choice is limited to one ,that in relationships you are conditioned to look for love within strictly defined boundaries of class religion, race, skin color , nationality, etc. Some choice. So with that level of cultural behavioral conditioning there is a tendency for artificiality and manipulation to enter people's interpersonal relationships. Or in crude language ,selling lies to get the guys. When a woman who is insecure therefore tries to get a mans attention she will do the very thing that works against her efforts. She will criticize him unfairly. Whats even more astonishing though is her failure to realize this behavior pattern will NEVER WORK. Ever. Men are every bit as vulnerable to criticism as women if not more so. Until they grow up at least . Most men never do reach psychological maturity though . The cabal cant control men and women who do. They need infantile dependence to maintain control and have an army of 'experts' to define your tolerated behaviors , such as Doctors ,scientists ,professors and Shrink's. Inverting truth and making false accusation is their main trick . But it only works on the weak minded. It is very typical for guilty parties to feign indignation and project their crimes on to the very person who exposes their lies . The term for this is projection . Kind of like Projectile ,being a Bullet. Its also axiomatic of control based tyranny's that they routinely censor/delete any and all information that could incriminate them. Truth embraces disclosure , liars routinely bury the truth. Sarah and Mike ,being shrewd individuals , knew that they needed to keep their relationship quiet to avoid unwelcome attention from the security police so they avoided moving in together . This put a strain on things sometimes but they learned to accept it. Sarah Noticed that Mike was reluctant to talk to much about his job and he kept it to very generalized comments. But true love does not like to keep secrets and one day when the large part of the staff was away for one of those 'team development training' trips Mike walked in to the Nursery and said "Come with me". Sarah could not believe her eye's when she entered the secure area Mike worked in. "This is what I do " he said . Before her she saw a vast spaghetti network of pipes, cages and spiraling loops . "You built this ?" "Yes, they call it the Labyrinth and I have to design ,build and reset it everyday to the Scientists Specifications." "Its Huge . This is where my babies come when they are grown up ?" "Part of it .I don't know where they go after they have been tested here .Now we must leave .Your not supposed to see this." That evening in a public park ,Sarah could tell Mike was excited and nervous. She knew that they had crossed the rubicon and he needed to talk . It came out in a long Burst of enthusiasm and urgency mixed with a degree of nervousness . "What I am going to tell you strictly speaking is classified so it must go no further. I trust you but do you trust me ?" "Yes of course I do Mike but whats troubling you ?" " I am cheating the Labyrinth to help the Rats .Yes I know its wrong but I cant do all those things the Scientists ask me to do. Please just listen ,I need to get this off my Chest . You know they do behavioral tests with electric shock ? Well I found out this amazing thing one day when I turned off the shock plate on the feed door . The rats pretended to get the shock to keep the scientists happy ! The rats are playing the scientists at their own game and I am helping them do it. Its amazing Sarah. Those arrogant stuffed shirts think they have the Rats figured out but those little buggers are so smart they are playing the white coats at their own game. They know when the plates are charged and will suffer the shock . Other times they will pretend to get the shock so the scientist assumes the plate is on when its not ! "I dont know exactly how the rats figure it out so quickly but when the coats arent looking I talk to them Sarah and I swear I think they understand ! You think I'm nuts right ? " "No actually Mike , I dont." Then Sarah went to her bedroom and bought back her Friend . "He's Gorgeous ,you know you could get it in a lot of trouble over that though " "Yes well now we both know each others secrets and we need to keep it that way." There is a very telling scene in the second to last Bond film where the villain explains to Bond how his mother created a rat trap where all the rats fell in to a large hole and were forced to eat each other to survive . Last rat standing is now no longer able to eat anything except meat. Its nature has been changed. It will kill every other rat to be top rat . This is behavioral indoctrination/modification in a nutshell . Its how the cabal engineers society and individuals . When Freud Boasted to Jung that he was bringing the 'plague' to America with his psychoanalytic movement he was not joking , and Jung soon realized just how sinister Freud truly was. A good teacher will only suffer a student for so long before he/she will tell their charge . "I can only teach you so much. you have to live your truth." So while I dont consider myself fully qualified to teach I do know enough to say from experience just a very few basic truths that will stand anyone in good stead . Dont Lie , dont cheat . Tell the truth always no matter how much it costs .Stay close to nature and let her teach you through experience . Eat a healthy balanced diet .Stay away from all spiritual guru's ,churches and cults and make your own way as much as you can . Travel when you are young and free. Youth is a precious window of opportunity to grow and mature . Dont squander it getting drunk ,doing drugs and making an arse of yourself to look cool and tough . Trust your own voice , listen to your conscience . Dont beat yourself up when you make mistakes , learn from them. In relationships apply all you have learned through your travels and dont be afraid of rejection. If someone interests you and you are attracted to them , go for it . Don't mess around and dither. You may win ,you may loose but the experience you gain will be priceless the next time around. Feint heart never won fair lady . Its always been true. Ladies , dont play all those silly games you play with men . Reverse psychology , tantrums and rumor mongering . Men do it yes and its stupid but don't think your exempt from the same consequences .Getting pregnant to reel in a man will always backfire in the end . Men don't respect manipulative women and women will not respect men for the same reason . You wont get true love without honesty and integrity. To often ladies sabotage each others best hopes out of jealousy . If your in to a guy , let HIM know and keep your female friends out of the loop . Only you know what you need to feel fulfilled as a person . Dont let anyone else tell you what that special something is . How the hell would they Know? There is a very clever Film called Bedazzled where 'the Devil' played by Elizabeth Hurley with relish ,teaches a very insecure man how to overcome other people's expectations and be himself. Well worth watching . Brendan Fraser Plays the insecure Nerd so well . But you know some of the nicest people you will ever meet are geeks . Im an alpha male but my daughter is a total Geek . Its not a problem. Real alpha males dont strut and bully. That's another myth that does a lot of harm. I did ask for help and I did get it. I had some incredible teachers ,mostly ET family but they did it by setting up experiences that I grew through without them declaring it . Only much later did I realize . Never harmful though sometimes scary , growth does not happen without pain and hardship. If you cant accept that then your going to lead a dull uneventful life. So if that's what you want that's what you will get . But if you do wimp out you will regret it later . Because real women seek out real men and real life . Not a boring same old existence in a rat trap. Geeks can kick ass just as much as an alpha . Its not a physical strength thing at all . Its not about where your from , its about where you are inside . There is no monopoly on 'the best' in nature . In tribal cultures the shaman does not charge by the hour for consultations . He knows he is maintaining the cohesion in the tribe by playing his part and benefits in other ways .He can show the way , he can give guided demonstrations of the inner path and guide the tribal members. Westerners are quick to ridicule tribal 'superstitions' but then they go to church and swallow a crust that's supposed to be the body of Christ ! Who's the real dumb ass ? The tribal hunter who can see in the dark because his inner eye is open or the self righteous alcoholic Catholic who confesses every Sunday ? Those who seek power for its own sake will study the 'truth' only. Those who seek to make the world a better place for everyone , live what they are taught and apply it. Well I have not got time to say much right now but this thread is massive . I am going to have to take some more time to get my head around your head so to speak . Its the human rats that worry me Orthy . Right now my concerns revolve around attaching a roto tiller to my tractor. That I can figure out .Attaching files and pictures to a post ? Forget it . I would not have the first clue how to do it. Whenever i have tried it all goes to S***.



    “Civilization is a hopeless race to discover remedies for the evils it produces.”  
    -    Jean Jacques Rousseau

    I predict that in twenty-years (if anyone is still alive) my seemingly-meaningless threads will be deemed quite-right (unfortunately). I think I've reached the silly-stage in my descent into madness -- and I think I sort of "lost-it" with this ridiculous post. I thought I had more time. The End is Near. What Would David Mann Do?? Time to Get Out of Dodge?? What Did Steven Spielberg Know?? When Did He Know It?? We Might Be Surprised!! What Would Paul Say?? "The Rats Shall Inherit the Earth??" Think About It -- But Don't Strain Yourself...
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    The Old-Testament might be Too-Old for our Modern-Sensibilities BUT does the OT reflect how things REALLY Work in Heaven and Earth?? Regardless of it's original-intent, has Christianity been a Religion of the Conquered (enforced by the conquerors)?? Consider the following numerically-symmetrical Old-Testament groupings:

    1. Genesis through Esther (17 books).
    2. Job through Song of Songs (5 books).
    3. Isaiah through Malachi (17 books).

    Group 1 is the most unethical and violent. Group 2 is the most ethical and upbeat. Group 3 is sort of a "middle-way" between Groups 1 and 2. The New Testament contains the most harsh and violent book in the entire Bible -- The Revelation of Jesus Christ. The Bible is highly-problematic when deeply-studied BUT what if the world, solar-system, and universe are highly-problematic when deeply-studied?? Should I join the Medical-Military-Money Complex?? What if I've been a Medical-Military-Money Man in previous-lives and other-planets?? Don't forget that I am presently leaning toward a Dynamic-Equilibrium between the Medical-Military-Money Complex and the Prevention-Peace-Philanthropy Complex -- possibly with an Ethics-Center mediating in the middle!! Wouldn't THAT be Fun??!! Should I study war some more?? Is Star-Wars the way things REALLY work throughout the universe?? What if this solar-system was supposed to be a laboratory-experiment to End All Wars?? If so, is it working?? Should I watch The Rat Patrol?? What Would Loki Do??



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7th_Armoured_Division_(United_Kingdom) The 7th Armoured Division was an armoured division of the British Army that saw distinguished service during World War II where its exploits made it famous as the Desert Rats.

    After the Munich Agreement, the division was formed in Egypt during 1938 as the Mobile Division (Egypt)[2] and its first divisional commander was the acclaimed tank theorist Major-General Sir Percy Hobart. During January 1940, the name of the unit was changed to the 7th Armoured Division.[2]

    The division fought in most major battles* during the North African Campaign; later it would land and fight in the Italian Campaign during the early stages of the invasion of Italy before being withdrawn to the United Kingdom where it prepared to fight in North-west Europe. It began landing in Normandy during the afternoon of D-Day, 6 June 1944, and fought its way across Europe ending the war in Kiel and Hamburg, Germany. The 7th Armoured Brigade was detached from the division during early 1942 and fought the Japanese during the fighting in the early stages of the Burma Campaign, it then returned to the Mediterranean Theatre and fought in the Italian theatre.

    Although the 7th Armoured Division was disbanded during the 1950s, the history, name and the famous 'Desert Rat' flash is carried on by the 7th Armoured Brigade.[3]

    When Italian troops were massed for the invasion of Abyssinia in 1935, a Mobile Force was assembled in Egypt in case the war spread. When rain and sandstorms led to vehicles being bogged down, it became known as the "Immobile Farce" within the ranks.[4]

    After the Munich Crisis, elements of what would become the 7th Armoured Division arrived in the Middle East in 1938 to increase British strength in Egypt and form a Mobile Division.

    The 'Mobile Force' – initially the "Matruh Mobile Force" – was established on the coast some 120 mi (190 km) west of Alexandria. It was formed from the Cairo Cavalry Brigade (three armoured regiments: the 7th Queen's Own Hussars, the 8th King's Royal Irish Hussars and the 11th Hussars) and supported by the 3rd Regiment Royal Horse Artillery, a company of the Royal Army Service Corps and a Field Ambulance unit.

    The Force was organised as a cavalry brigade (the Hussar regiments with Light Tanks, 15-cwt Ford vehicles, and armoured cars), a tank group (older medium and light tanks and latest Light Tanks) and a "pivot group" (artillery with 3.7-inch Mountain guns and tracked vehicles to tow them).

    It was joined by the 1st battalion of the King's Royal Rifle Corps from Burma and then its first commander, Major-General Percy Hobart. Hobart was an armoured warfare expert and saw that his troops were properly prepared to fight in the desert despite their poor equipment. Stewart Henry Perowne, the Public Relations Attaché at the British Embassy in Baghdad, perhaps uncharitably referred to the unit as the "Mobile Farce" because it included some obsolete tanks like the Vickers Medium Mark II.[5]

    The King's Royal Rifle Corps battalion joined the pivot group as a Motor Battalion. By September 1939 the artillery was equipped with 25 pounder gun-howitzers and 37mm anti-tank guns. The next month the first cruiser tanks were issued.

    In December 1939, Major-General Sir Michael O'Moore Creagh succeeded Hobart, who had fallen foul of his superiors.

    The unit was meant to be equipped with 220 tanks. However, at the outbreak of war, the 'Mobile Force' only had 65. Most of the unit's troops had already been deployed for two years by 1940 and it took as long as three months for mail to arrive.

    On 16 February 1940, the Mobile Division, which had changed names during the middle of 1939 to be called the Armoured Division,[6] became the 7th Armoured Division.[2]

    After the Italian declaration of war, the Western Desert Force was massively outnumbered. However, the Italian army largely comprised leg infantry; its artillery dated back to World War I, it had no armoured cars and a few antitank weapons, which were effective only against light and cruiser tanks. As such, it proved to be no match for the British. The Western Desert Force captured 130,000 Italians during December 1940 - February 1941 in piecemeal battles.

    During the January 1941 Italian retreat, Major-General Richard O'Connor, the Western Desert Force commander, ordered the Desert Rats to travel south of the Jebel Akhdar and cut off the Italian forces at Beda Fomm, while Australian forces pushed the Italians west. On 7 February, as the tanks were unable to travel fast enough, the manoeuvre was led by an ad hoc brigade of armoured cars, towed artillery and infantry, which completed the trip in 30 hours, that cut off the Italian retreat and destroyed the Italian Tenth Army. Lieutenant-Colonel John Combe led this ad hoc group, which was known as "Combe Force" after him. After this, the tanks of the 7th Armoured Division, after eight months of fighting, needed a complete overhaul and the division was withdrawn to Cairo and temporarily ceased to be available as a fighting formation being replaced in the line by *2nd Armoured division.[7]

    The Italians had proven so weak that Hitler was forced to send the Afrika Korps as reinforcements under the command of General Erwin Rommel. In April 1941, the allied troops in Tobruk were cut off by the Germans and Italians. In June, the 7th was again prepared for battle as part of Operation Battleaxe, having received new tanks and additional personnel.[8] In the attack plan for Operation Battleaxe, the 7th force was divided between the Coast Force and Escarpment Force. However, this Allied push failed, and the 7th was forced to withdraw on the third day of fighting.[9] On 18 November, as part of Operation Crusader the whole of the 7th Armoured Division was concentrated on breaking through. They faced only the weakened 21st Panzer. However, XXX Corps commander Norrie, aware that 7th Armoured division was down to 200 tanks, decided on caution. During the wait, in the early afternoon of 22 November, Rommel attacked Sidi Rezegh with 21st Panzer and captured the airfield. Fighting was desperate and gallant: for his actions during these two days of fighting, Brigadier Jock Campbell, commanding 7th Support Group, was awarded the Victoria Cross. However, 21st Panzer, despite being considerably weaker in armour, proved superior in its combined arms tactics, pushing 7th Armoured Division back with a further 50 tanks lost (mainly from 22nd Brigade).[10]

    The Western Desert Force later became HQ XIII Corps, one of the major parts of Eighth Army. The 7th Armoured Division took part in most of the major battles of the North African Campaign, including both Battles of El Alamein (the First Battle of El Alamein in July 1942, which stopped the Axis advance, and the Second Battle of El Alamein in October/November 1942). It also participated in the destruction of Axis forces in North Africa in Tunisia in 1943.

    On 27 June 1942, the 7th Armoured Division, along with units of the British 3rd Hussars, suffered one of the worst friendly fire incidents when they were attacked by a group of RAF Vickers Wellington bombers during a two-hour raid near Mersa Matruh, Egypt. Over 359 troops were killed and 560 others were wounded.[11]

    The division was not an assault force in the invasion of Sicily, instead remaining in Homs for training in amphibious warfare, but did participate in the early stages of the Italian Campaign. It came ashore at Salerno, on 15 September 1943, to help repel heavy German counterattacks during the Battle for the Salerno beachhead (Operation Avalanche). Shortly after landing on the 18th the 131st (Queen's) Infantry Brigade (which become part of the division in November 1942 and consisted of the 1/5th, 1/6th and 1/7th Territorial battalions of the Queen's Royal Regiment) relieved its 'sister' duplicate, the 169th (Queen's) Infantry Brigade, (consisting of 2/5th, 2/6th and 2/7th Queen's, all formed in 1939), which was part of the 56th (London) Infantry Division, and had been in continuous combat since 9 September. The assembley of six battalions of a single regiment has since been considered a unique moment in the regiment's history.[12] The 169th (Queen's) Brigade was commanded at the time by Brigadier Lewis Lyne, who would later command the 7th Armoured Division from November 1944 onwards. Then, as part of Lieutenant General Mark Clark's U.S. Fifth Army's British X Corps, commanded by Lieutenant-General Richard McCreery, and supported by the British 46th Infantry Division, it drove on and took Naples. The Desert Rats, used to fighting in the desert, had to adjust to the confined Italian roads. The division crossed the river Volturno in southern Italy, constructing a pontoon bridge. This paved the way for many divisions heading north.

    On the wishes of the Commander of the British Eighth Army, General Sir Bernard Montgomery, the 7th Armoured Division was recalled to the United Kingdom, along with the 4th Armoured Brigade, 8th Armoured Brigade, 50th (Northumbrian) Infantry Division and 51st (Highland) Infantry Division, all of which had seen extensive service alongside the 7th Armoured in the Mediterranean and Middle East, to participate in the invasion of North Western Europe with the British Second Army. The division left Italy in late December 1943, arriving in Glasgow in early January 1944.

    In November 1943, the division left Italy for the United Kingdom; with the last units arriving on 7 January 1944.[13][14] The division was re-equipped with the new Cromwell cruiser tanks and in April and May received 36 Sherman Vc Fireflies; enough to organise each troop so that they had a complement of three 75 mm gun Cromwell tanks and a 17 pounder gun Firefly.[13] 7th Armoured was the only British division to use the Cromwell as their main battle tank.[15]

    The division was one of the three British follow-up divisions of the two British assault Corps earmarked for the Normandy landings.[16] The 22nd Armoured Brigade embarked on 4 June and most of the division landed on Gold Beach by the end of 7 June.[13][17] The division, part of XXX Corps, initially took part in Operation Perch and Operation Goodwood, two operations that formed part of the Battle for Caen, itself part of Operation Overlord. During Perch, the division was to spearhead one arm of a pincer attack to capture the city. Due to a change in plan, elements of the division engaged tanks of the Panzer-Lehr-Division and the Heavy SS-Panzer Battalion 101 in the Battle of Villers-Bocage.[18] Following the capture of Caen, the division took part in Operation Spring, which was intended to keep the German forces pinned to the British front away from the Americans who were launching Operation Cobra and then Operation Bluecoat, an attack to support the American break-out and intercept German reinforcements moving to stop it. The division then took part in the Allied advance from Paris to the Rhine.

    The division's performance in Normandy and the rest of France has been called into question and it has been claimed they did not match those of its earlier campaigns. In early August 1944, Major-General George Erskine, the division's commander, Brigadier William Hinde, the armoured brigade commanding officer, and up to 100 other officers of the division were removed from their positions and reassigned. Historians largely agree that this was a consequence of the "failure" at Villers-Bocage and had been planned since that battle.[19][20][21][22] Historian Daniel Taylor is of the opinion that the battle's result provided an excuse and that the sackings took place to "demonstrate that the army command was doing something to counteract the poor public opinion of the conduct of the campaign".[21] Historian Mungo Melvin has commented approvingly of the 7th Armoured Division's institution of a flexible combined arms structure, which other British armoured divisions did not adopt until after Operation Goodwood.[23]

    Following the advance across France, the division took part in the Allied advance through Belgium and the Netherlands; liberating Ghent on 6 September. The division then took part in the advance to and securing of the River Maas. In January 1945 the division took part in Operation Blackcock to clear the Roer Triangle, followed by Operation Plunder; the division crossed the Rhine near Xanten and Wesel and advanced on the city of Hamburg its destination, as part of the Western Allied invasion of Germany.

    The replacement of the division's commanding officer, following Normandy, did not change the performance of the division and in November 1944, Erskine's replacement, Major-General Gerald Lloyd-Verney, was relieved, by Major-General Lewis Lyne, after he "was unable to cure the division's bad habits well enough to satisfy Montgomery and Dempsey."[24]

    There is almost no doubt that the division was suffering from collective and cumulative battle fatigue. As Verney put it, with some prescience: "There is no doubt that familiarity with war does not make one more courageous. One becomes cunning and from cunning to cowardice is but a short step."[25]

    The Division remained in Germany as part of the occupation forces and then into the 1950s as part of the British Army of the Rhine standing watch against the Warsaw Pact. As the British Army became smaller, its higher numbered divisions were removed from the order of battle. The Division's long and illustrious career finally came to an end in this fashion, in April 1958, when it was converted into 5th Division. However, the traditions and iconic nickname ("Desert Rats") of the Division are maintained by 7th Armoured Brigade, which forms part of 1st Armoured Division.

    The name was coined by the first divisional commander, Major-General Percy Hobart on a visit to Maaten Bagush. There he met Rea Leakey, then GSO 3 Intelligence, who had a pet jerboa, or “desert rat”. Hobart took to the animal and decided to adopt “The Desert Rats” as a nickname for the division. The shoulder flash was designed by the wife of his successor, Major-General Michael O'Moore Creagh, using a jerboa from Cairo Zoo as a model. The resulting shoulder patches were made of scarlet thread. These were unofficial; the War Office did not adopt the flashes until the summer of 1943 and then redesigned them to look, in the opinion of Leakey, more like a kangaroo than a jerboa. The colour was also changed to black.[26]

    Notes

    1.Jump up ^ This is the war establishment, the on-paper strength, of the division for 1944/1945; for information on how the division size changed over the war please see British Army during the Second World War and British Armoured formations of World War II.
    Citations
    1.Jump up ^ Joslen, p. 129
    2.^ Jump up to: a b c "4th Mechanised Brigade: History". British Army. Archived from the original on 3 March 2008.
    3.Jump up ^ Welcome to the new British Army Website – British Army Website
    4.Jump up ^ British and Commonwealth Armoured Formations 1919–1946
    5.Jump up ^ Kelly, Saul, The Lost Oasis, p. 121
    6.Jump up ^ Playfair, Volume I, p. 36
    7.Jump up ^ Wavell, Archibald (1946). Operations in the Middle East from 7th February to 15th July 1941. Wavell's Official Despatches. first published in The London Gazette: (Supplement) no. 37638. pp. 3423–3444. 2 July 1946., p. 2 (see The London Gazette: (Supplement) no. 38177. p. 310. 13 January 1948.)
    8.Jump up ^ Playfair, Volume II, pp. 1–2, 32, 163–164
    9.Jump up ^ Liddell Hart, Basil H.. The Tanks: The History of the Royal Tank Regiment and its Predecessors, Heavy Branch, Machine-Gun Corps, Tank Corps, and Royal Tank Corps, 1914–1945, pg. 90
    10.Jump up ^ Murphy & Fairbrother, pp. 103–105
    11.Jump up ^ The Rommel Papers, Liddell-Hart, Basil Henry pp.238–239 (New York, NY: Harcourt, Brace, Javanovich, 1953)
    12.Jump up ^ "The Italian Campaign". The Queen's Royal Surrey Regimental Association. Retrieved 27 November 2015.
    13.^ Jump up to: a b c Fortin, p. 4
    14.Jump up ^ Delaforce, pp. 1–2
    15.Jump up ^ Taylor, p. 6
    16.Jump up ^ Ellis, p. 79
    17.Jump up ^ Forty, p. 36
    18.Jump up ^ Buckley, pp. 23–27
    19.Jump up ^ Fortin, p. 10
    20.Jump up ^ Forty, p. 104
    21.^ Jump up to: a b Taylor, p. 84
    22.Jump up ^ Wilmot, p. 398
    23.Jump up ^ Buckley (2006), pp. 28–29
    24.Jump up ^ D'Este, Carlo (1983). Decision in Normandy. London: William Collins Sons. p. 286.
    25.Jump up ^ D'Este, p. 273
    26.Jump up ^ Rea Leakey, Leakey’s Luck, paperback edition 2002, p 23 and pp 24-25n; photographs of original and redesigned flashes between page 102 and 103.
    27.^ Jump up to: a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o Joslen, p. 19
    28.^ Jump up to: a b c d e f Army Commands

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    blue roller wrote:Well I have not got time to say much right now but this thread is massive . I am going to have to take some more time to get my head around your head so to speak . Its the human rats that worry me Orthy . Right now my concerns revolve around attaching a roto tiller to my tractor. That I can figure out .Attaching files and pictures to a post ? Forget it . I would not have the first clue how to do it. Whenever i have tried it all goes to S***.
    blue roller wrote:There is a very telling scene in the second to last  Bond film where the villain explains to Bond how his mother created a rat trap where all the rats fell in to a large hole and were forced to eat each other to survive . Last rat standing is now no longer able to eat anything except meat. Its nature has been changed. It will kill every other rat to be top rat .

    This is behavioral indoctrination/modification in a nutshell . Its how the cabal engineers society and individuals .

    When Freud Boasted to Jung that he was bringing the 'plague' to America with his psychoanalytic movement he was not joking , and Jung soon realized just how sinister Freud truly was.

    A good teacher will only suffer a student for so long before he/she will tell their charge . "I can only teach you so much. you have to live your truth."

    So while I dont consider myself fully qualified to teach I do know enough to say from experience just a very few basic truths that will stand anyone in good stead .

    Dont Lie , dont cheat . Tell the truth always no matter how much it costs .Stay close to nature and let her teach you through experience . Eat a healthy balanced diet .Stay away from all spiritual guru's ,churches and cults and make your own way as much as you can . Travel when you are young and free. Youth is a precious window of opportunity to grow and mature . Dont squander it getting drunk ,doing drugs and making an arse of yourself to look cool and tough .

    Trust your own voice , listen to your conscience . Dont beat yourself up when you make mistakes , learn from them.

    In relationships apply all you have learned through your travels and dont be afraid of rejection. If someone interests you and you are attracted to them , go for it . Don't mess around and dither. You may win ,you may loose but the experience you gain will be priceless the next time around.

    Feint heart never won fair lady . Its always been true. Ladies , dont play all those silly games you play with men . Reverse psychology , tantrums and rumor mongering . Men do it yes and its stupid but don't think your exempt from the same consequences. Getting pregnant to reel in a man will always backfire in the end . Men don't respect manipulative women and women will not respect men for the same reason . You wont get true love without honesty and integrity.

    To often ladies sabotage each others best hopes out of jealousy . If your in to a guy , let HIM know and keep your female friends out of the loop .

    Only you know what you need to feel fulfilled as a person . Dont let anyone else tell you what that special something is . How the hell would they Know?

    There is a very clever Film called Bedazzled where 'the Devil' played by Elizabeth Hurley with relish ,teaches a very insecure man how to overcome other people's expectations and be himself. Well worth watching . Brendan Fraser Plays the insecure Nerd so well . But you know some of the nicest people you will ever meet are geeks . Im an alpha male but my daughter is a total Geek . Its not a problem. Real alpha males dont strut and bully. That's another myth that does a lot of harm.

    I did ask for help and I did get it. I had some incredible teachers ,mostly ET family but they did it by setting up experiences that I grew through without them declaring it . Only much later did I realize . Never harmful though sometimes scary , growth does not happen without pain and hardship. If you cant accept that then your going to lead a dull uneventful life.

    So if that's what you want that's what you will get . But if you do wimp out you will regret it later . Because real women seek out real men and real life. Not a boring same old existence in a rat trap. Geeks can kick ass just as much as an alpha . Its not a physical strength thing at all .

    Its not about where your from , its about where you are inside . There is no monopoly on 'the best' in nature .

    In tribal cultures the shaman does not charge by the hour for consultations . He knows he is maintaining the cohesion in the tribe by playing his part and benefits in other ways .He can show the way , he can give guided demonstrations of the inner path and guide the tribal members. Westerners are quick to ridicule tribal 'superstitions' but then they go to church and swallow a crust that's supposed to be the body of Christ ! Who's the real dumb ass ? The tribal hunter who can see in the dark because his inner eye is open or the self righteous alcoholic Catholic who confesses every Sunday ?

    Those who seek power for its own sake will study the 'truth' only. Those who seek to make the world a better place for everyone , live what they are taught and apply it.
    blue roller wrote:So this post is a reply to your input Orthy for which many thanks . I love the pinky and the brain ones and yes I found all your stuff interesting and relevant to the topic. May be others dont but you can never please everyone.

    I did check out your thread and its massive, dude I just dont have the time to read all that stuff.

    You know its funny , I can see your dead keen to explore the galaxy and I totally get that of course but a lot of earth humans are a bit stay at home you know. They still struggle with the whole life out there thing . They dont like to be reminded they are at the bottom of the civilized scale . There are a lot of things they refuse to come to terms with so you know I catch some serious Crap for being a declared ET .

    But you know its just their preconceptions that blind them to all the fantastic opportunities they can have if they just let go of all that resentment. 99% of the stuff on ET is just propagandized garbage pumped out by the corporate to suppress humanity . If you cant control it ,paint it as evil. Its lame but most people fall for it.

    People will often tell me , when they think that no one else is listening in, about a strange experience they had . Of course ,to me its obvious it was an exploratory first contact but usually they dont handle much beyond the initial stuff.

    Why ? They freak. They dont want to change or take responsibility for their own freedom. They want the Rat race . So they get Rat race . Instead of electric shocks they get tax shocks and bill's going up shocks and marriage infidelity shocks and whatever guilt trips the church can lay on them shocks. They eat food that gives them cancer , that's a major shock. The rat trap is designed to make maximum profit for the few . Its a Labyrinth of pain with no gain . Its a Faraday cage of hate and rage . Its the beast that feeds on flesh and fear and ignorance.

    To see the farm is to leave the farm . But most dont see it until near the end . That's when the regret and grief overwhelm those who are near to death .

    Ever traveled Orthy ? Ever seen much of the world ? Ever wondered if this planet might be worth checking out before you check out ? I want to see some more before I check out .

    But you know , most humans envy ET's Technology and that's their big mistake . Sure it has its advantages but there are many scary downsides to advanced tech and it has to be treated with the utmost care . My people have some scarily advanced kit but we still go home to simple places in the country most of us . My homestead is really not much different to a farmhouse in France . Simple old stone house . Very few mod cons. I like it like that. Some ET's LOVE space but most cant wait to get their feet back on the ground after a tour. Its not so much different to being at sea for a long time in some ways .

    All that cold titanium alloy and basic accommodation gets old . Our battle cruisers are not built to be luxury cruisers . Unfortunately some species/races have to take on the strong arm role and that's why my people get demonized. Without a strong military presence to deter them there are species that will try their luck. Yes we have recreation decks and holo suites and all that stuff but its still synthetic . And dead planets like mars ? interesting for a few weeks or so but it gets old real quick. Nothing beat the smell of fresh planetary air and natural life . Its going back to where you were born and you body really needs that.

    Before this universe there was a previous race , humanoidish probably . We have some remnants of their tech . Super crazy advanced stuff ,still way beyond what we have . But they are gone now or at least they appear to be . Probably because their tech got out of hand. We dont know for sure what happened . Not sure we want to know . Some say they will return in the future . Who knows ?

    Dont be blinded by the science Orthy . Its cool but it can get cold . Right now I could care less about it . I like to keep things simple.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Blue Roller. I never know what to think of "ET". I suspect that all of us are "ET" at the soul-level (going way, way, way back). I also suspect that most "ET" are "Local ET" (from this solar system). I suspect an ongoing Ancient Civil-War Among Soul-Relatives (with varieties of governance and physicality) -- but I'm too frightened to dig too-deeply. So far, I've simply proposed a hypothesis (within this website) -- and now I need to analyze the hell out of this theory -- without talking about it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Rat_(film) King Rat is a 1965 World War II film directed by Bryan Forbes, and starring George Segal as Corporal King and James Fox as Marlowe, two World War II prisoners of war in a squalid camp near Singapore. Among the supporting cast were John Mills and Tom Courtenay. The film was adapted from James Clavell's novel King Rat (1962), which in turn is partly based on Clavell's experiences as a POW at Changi Prison during World War II.

    Corporal King (George Segal) is an anomaly in the Japanese prison camp. One of only a handful of Americans amongst the British and Australian inmates, he thrives through his conniving and black market enterprises; whereas others, nearly all of higher rank, struggle to survive sickness and starvation while trying to keep their civilised nature. King recruits upper class British RAF officer Flight Lieutenant Peter Marlowe (James Fox) to act as a translator. As they become acquainted, Marlowe comes to like the man and appreciate his cunning. King respects Marlowe, but his attitude is otherwise ambiguous; when Marlowe is injured, King obtains expensive medicines to save Marlowe's gangrenous arm from amputation, but it is unclear whether he does so out of friendship or because Marlowe is the only one who knows where the proceeds from King's latest and most profitable venture are hidden.

    King has a different relationship with the lower class, seemingly-incorruptible British Provost, Lieutenant Grey (Tom Courtenay). Grey has only contempt for the American and does his best to bring him down. Then Grey has to deal with an unrelated dilemma when he accidentally discovers that the high-ranking officer in charge of the meager food rations has been stealing. Grey rejects a bribe and zealously takes the matter to Colonel George Smedley-Taylor (John Mills). To his dismay, Smedley-Taylor tells him the corrupt officer and his assistant have been relieved of their duties, and orders him to forget all about it. Grey accuses Smedley-Taylor of being in on the scheme, but the tampered weight he presented to the colonel as evidence has been replaced, so he no longer has proof of the crime. Smedley-Taylor offers to promote him to captain; when a troubled Grey does not respond, Smedley-Taylor takes his silence as consent.

    The camp commandant summons the senior British officers, and notifies them that the Japanese have surrendered and that the war is over. After overcoming their shock and disbelief, the prisoners celebrate – all except King. He realizes he is no longer the unquestioned (if unofficial) ruler of the camp. A British paratrooper (Richard Dawson) walks up to the prison gates and disarms the guards. The prisoners are stunned and refuse to speak to the paratrooper, except King, which makes the paratrooper suspicious. King manages to squelch a premature attempt by resentful underling Sergeant Max (Patrick O'Neal) to reassert his rank and authority, but that only delays the inevitable. When Marlowe speaks to him before King's departure from the camp, King ignores his overture of renewed friendship.

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    blue roller wrote:orthy , I want you to repeat after me " I am a freakin' Genius !"

    Perfect research . See , these guys explain this sh** way better than I can .

    Like I keep saying ,the message is out there and its been put out there over and over again in very varied forms to get people to see the obvious hidden right in front of their eye's.

    King Rat is Ra the King . Ra the sun god ,Ra the sun of god , Jesus the son of Ra . Ra T for short . The Ra who was crucified on a T bar or cross. The guilt trip that puts the prisoners hard earned in the Church's back pockets. War is the King rats game . But not every rat is bad .

    So the labyrinth in the prison camp works in favor of the liar and thief and attempts to destroy those who have integrity and HONOR.

    Im going to go watch that film Orthy. Good work.

    So here's the point I have been trying to make . Google is a search engine that will break the code if you combine the right words. All I am trying to do here is give you guys the Cipher . Its a rat race to the finish .

    But you already instinctively have it Orthy , Your authentic wild rat is on the hunt . Your getting it , you just don't know exactly how much your getting it . YET.

    Toast
    Thank-you blue roller. This might not resonate with anyone BUT there are two Ellen White Books which I am becoming increasingly interested in (for a variety of reasons):

    1. Patriarchs and Prophets.
    2. Prophets and Kings.

    To me, they are the definitive Old-Testament devotional-books by Ellen White. They are written in a Royal-Model Lawyer-Like manner. They are "Whole-Bible" from the perspective of the Old-Testament. They are probably Plagiarized Historical-Fiction BUT they are VERY INTERESTING (to me anyway). The churches seem to brainwash people (with various pleasing delusions). Private Historical-Studies seems to be the place to begin solving the puzzling mess humanity is in. But I don't know if a solution exists. Research might simply reveal how Screwed We REALLY Are. BTW -- I had extended contact with one who might've been ET -- and who I call "The Ancient Egyptian Deity". One night, they said "I AM RA!!" Another night, they said "Do You Want to Have Another War??" I suspect that humanity had a Good Local-God in the beginning -- but subsequently got a Bad Local-God by choice and/or force. Think long and hard about what I just said. I don't wish to be any more specific. Another thing. Notice that in the Dr. Who Trial of a Time Lord -- when Dr. Who was reinstated as Lord President of Gallifrey -- He Turned It Down!! Notice that when Jupiter Jones was offered the Title to Earth -- she ultimately seemed to wish to keep things as they were. What if Captain Tsing is one-aspect of Jupiter Jones?? What if Kalique Abrasax in another aspect of Jupiter Jones?? What if Dr. Who is yet another aspect of Jupiter Jones?? What Would Lilith and Eve Say?? I have speculated that the existing God of This World might have control of Earth till 2133 A.D. -- and that it might not be wise for a New-Guy or the Original-Guy to try to Restore the Sanctuary to It's Rightful-State Prematurely. One More Thing. I Don't Think That's Ben Affleck in the Dogma Poster!! What Would Azazel Say?? That's All I'm Going to Say...

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    Carol wrote:Hmm... for myself I existed within the world of crisis mode for a number of years. Relationship, health, working with others and their crisis. There is nothing wrong with being in a survival mode as one learns how to dive deep into their own psyche and hopefully discover and/or develop new coping skills. I don't regret those years. I learned a lot. And there were many days when the physical pain was so severe all I could do was just lay paralyzed, unmoving so as not to create more pain. All nerve endings were inflamed.. even the surface of my skin. In the midst of pain I discovered that inner place of stillness where gratitude exists. I was happy I had a roof over my head. A comfortable bed to sleep in. Sheltered from the rain and wind. I discovered how to be happy by going inward. Although the scorpion sting was one of the worst experiences and it took months for the nerve endings to regrow... they did regrow. The herniated neck discs did heal and I was forced by physical circumstances to deal with both pain and emotional survival. Did I claw my way to inner peace? Nope. It was always there hanging out or in - as a core component of spirit.

    Probably the most profound experience was almost drowning at around age 6 where I was presented a choice to continue to exit this life. Personally I think choosing a human life is courageous given all that exists. We're just here for experiences so that our souls/spirit can continue to develop into compassionate beings.

    I recall in San Francisco I would watch the people walk by and think about their different and unique lives. How vast their various experiences reached out and all of the other lives that each life touched. All connected when it comes to consciousness and consequences... yet each life appearing separate and apart.

    As for the heart issues.. runs in the family. We all had issues of one sort or another. My dad had open heart surgery. Younger brother as well. I just never expected my younger sister to die of a stroke.

    I also post health info. Yet it's true that what is unfolding politically and spiritually when it comes to catching my attention. I just want to see the world right side up and those who are corrupt, who seek to exploit others reap justice.

    Since where we live is paradise on earth it helps provide a balance. I really don't enjoy being around people all that much unless they're family. Being a self-impose hermit is peaceful. Never boring.

    If I want to liven things up I just read your threads. hahaha
    lol!
    Thank-you, Carol. I don't know what to say about the pain and medical issues. I tend to not talk about such things, but oddly, I tend to expose myself to highly-upsetting internet-content. I seem to have double (or triple) standards. I think I might care so much that I shut-down (or even go a bit crazy). I'll need to review the entirety of the posts on this page for a few days. Again, I don't know how to proceed. I don't know who I really am, or who the Mists forum-members really are. I've purposefully and methodically avoided knowing who anyone really is. My threads are issue and concept oriented (in a very tentative manner). The descriptions of pain are sad and disillusioning. My father had severe chronic back-pain for years. Somewhat tangentially, I remember an Episcopal rector recalling how nice and courteous people were in New York City just after 9/11. I spoke with him after church regarding that phenomenon. Years before that, I asked a Christian psychology professor, "Do we need to go to Hell before we can go to Heaven??" He brushed it off with a curt, "No." But he was sort of a jerk. There's nothing quite like 'Christian-Love'. Oxymoron or Wave of the Future?? I've been vaguely modeling the Matrix and Royalty as the vulgar-commoner I truly am, but I do the best I can. Most people really don't like me when I start asking questions and when I start getting too-clever. I spent a significant amount of time walking the streets of San Francisco, watching people and wondering what life was all about. Once, a clown mocked people as they walked, seemingly able to see their inner-selves as he walked next to them. He did that to me in an alarming and disarming manner. I once conversed with a prominent psychiatrist, in his home overlooking San Francisco, regarding harsh-religion. Take another look at the 1972 movie What's Up Doc? Artificial-Intelligence?? What Would Dr. Who Do?? Anyway, my medical insurance is suggesting that my recent surgery might not be covered, which would result in tens of thousands of dollars of out of pocket medical expenses, so I'm a little down in the mouth right now. I'll do some more posting when I'm in a better state of mind. The fun never ends, and it just gets more and more ridiculous. Unfortunately, I don't think we've seen anything yet. I SO Hope I'm Wrong. Hope Springs Eternal. Do I have a Galactic Sense of Humor?? Or am I just a Scoffer at the End of Time?? I almost forgot. Consider Charles Spurgeon, the 19th century preacher who had chronic-pain (especially near the end of his life) which seemed to propel him to amazing levels of understanding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Spurgeon
    Carol wrote:
    The Removal From Power of Benjamin Netanyahu is a Game Changer
    By Benjamin Fulford Weekly Reports  - June 14, 2021

    The formal removal from power of Israeli Crime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a geopolitical game-changer.  Netanyahu’s departure means the messianic Zionist fanatics who want to kill 90% of humanity and rule the survivors from a greater Israel have lost.

    “This is momentous to counter KM (Khazarian Mafia) geopolitics,” MI6 sources say.  Netanyahu is being taken into protective custody so that he can sing about his hidden controllers before he is killed and silenced, they add.  Mossad sources insist the real Netanyahu is long gone and what we are seeing is a clone.  However, the MI6 version of events is more in line with what most of us understand as reality.

    In any case, some recent news items show how big a change is coming to the Middle East.  Just before Netanyahu was ousted the Mossad linked site DEBKA posted the following:

    “Iran’s nuclear breakout may soon be a matter of weeks. This assessment by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Monday, June 8th, confronts the incoming Bennett-Lapid government with its first major challenge – indeed the most ominous test that has faced any past Israeli government.” https://www.debka.com/first-test-for-emerging-israeli-government-iran-is-galloping-towards-breakout-says-blinken/

    Do these idiots actually believe anybody listens to them anymore after repeating this weekly for over 30 years?

    Now instead we see the Israeli colony of Saudi Arabia trying to make peace with Syria and Iran. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/8/times-have-changed-saudi-syria-in-rapprochement-talks

    The Russians, for their part, know full well that “Hamas and IS were created by Israeli intel and all their leaders are working for ‘Mossada.’” This is the sort of behavior that prompted a collective decision by the world’s military to tell Israel to “stop or else.”

    What has now happened is that the people of Israel decided they did not want to go through another Mossada-like collective suicide.

    In any case, Russian FSB, MI6, Mossad, and CIA sources all agree that humanity faces a common enemy in the form of the Khazarian Mafia (KM).  The KM members are now circling their wagons around their G7 slave civilian governments, NATO, and the banksters in Switzerland.

    When an FSB source asked if the White Dragon Society was going to hit Geneva, Switzerland with a nuclear strike in order to take out the KM’s Octagon politburo, they were told the WDS “have decided…

    that pinpoint surgery is the way to go.” To this, the FSB replied their analysis of the KM was that “the total top management is 2,500 people and at the very top are 200.”  These people are now being actively hunted by MI6, the FSB, the CIA, and Asian secret societies.

    To understand what kind of people we are dealing with we have been given a report by MI6 that former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair’s doctor operated to repair vaginal damage he did to his daughter by repeatedly raping her.  Meanwhile, Chief Cabinet Secretary Simon Case has been taking children from a certain hospital, raping them, and killing them.

    That is why death warrants have been issued for these people, they say.

    However, MI6 sources say that if push comes to shove “better millions dead than billions, that is how the real world we live and work in is… and it’s not for the faint-hearted.”

    This is no exaggeration.  Top-level military and agency personnel have taken action after receiving scientific proof the vaccines being pushed on much of the global population are highly toxic. That is why suddenly the pandemic and vaccines are vanishing from public discourse.  In a sign of this, some corporate media have started to refer to Covid-19 by its traditional name “the common cold.” https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2021/06/08/reemergence-cold/

    Despite this, the G7 slave governments issued a communiqué last weekend where they promised “starting immediately, to vaccinate the world…providing for one billion doses over the next year.” They added that “ending the pandemic in 2022 will require vaccinating at least 60 percent of the global population.” In other words, they are still bent on genocide. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/media/50361/carbis-bay-g7-summit-communique.pdf

    Fortunately, the G7 is increasingly irrelevant.  They accounted for 80% of world GDP when they were founded in 1976 but now, on a real purchasing power parity basis they account for more like 20%.  This did not stop them from promising $40 trillion, way more than their collective GDP, to “fix global infrastructure.”  Needless to say, the $40 trillion is just a giant fiat hallucination.

    “Few still remember how our societies and economies were threatened by high inflation 50 years ago,” David Folkerts-Landau, Deutsche Bank chief economist and head of research, wrote in a paper co-written by his colleagues Jim Reid and Peter Hooper.”

    The most basic laws of economics, the ones that have stood the test of time over a millennium, have not been suspended.  Explosive growth in debt-financed largely by central banks is likely to lead to higher inflation.” In other words, there is such a thing known as reality and the fiat bankers have bumped into it.

    There was also weird talk in the G7 communiqué about “action to decarbonize areas such as iron and steel, cement, chemicals, and petrochemicals,” as well as “decarbonized mobility including buses, trains, shipping, and aviation.”  With all these weird reports about vaccinated people becoming like magnets, it makes one wonder if, as the Gnostic Illuminati say, the G7 works for a rogue artificial intelligence that also wants to “decarbonize” humans.  In other words, it is working towards a shift from carbon-based life (like us) to silicon-based life.

    In any case, “the Military were all watching the G7 summit and laughing,” MI6 promises.  They say the Rothschilds are bankrupt because of lawsuits related to Libor manipulation.  Now, this satanic family is “now desperately clinging to power using their poor cousins the Rockefellers.”

    The fake Biden regime has shown itself to be a Rockefeller proxy by brazenly promoting their business interests.  That is why they cut off the Keystone pipeline as the first order of business for their bogus regime.  Also, if you look at their so-called “Three Seas Initiative,” you will see it consists of building ports and pipelines, etc., to allow European countries to import expensive Rockefeller LNG, oil, etc.

    The Rockefellers are also desperately trying to woo Russia to join them as junior partners in a new cold war against China when their so-called President Biden meets with Russian power avatar Vladimir Putin in Geneva on June 16th.

    Here is the official Russian take on this meeting:

    “No one wants a return to the Cold War.  But as was true then, improving security in the Euro-Atlantic region today will require leaders to recognize their mutual interests and act boldly and together to promote them.  The June 16th meeting between the U.S. and Russian presidents in Geneva, Switzerland, offers the opportunity to begin an important new dialogue on strategic stability.  One of history’s lessons is how quickly nations can move from peace to horrific conflict.  In the aftermath, we have looked back and wondered not only how it could have happened, but how it happened so quickly?” https://russiancouncil.ru/en/analytics-and-comments/analytics/advancing-strategic-stability-in-the-euro-atlantic-region-2021-and-beyond/

    The Russians are also aware they are dealing with a failed state as “Putin” recently noted on the official Tass news site when he said:

    “Problems keep piling up.  And, at some point, they are no longer able to cope with them.  And the United States is now walking the Soviet Union’s path, and its gait is confident and steady.” https://tass.com/economy/1299287

    The signs the U.S. is a failed state continue to multiply. For example, as the chart below shows, the purchasing power of the domestic U.S. dollar (as opposed to the international one) continues to plunge: https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/its-permanent-not-temporary-dollars-purchasing-power-plunged-fastest-pace-1982

    Also, all the funny money the Biden people have been distributing in an attempt to bribe the American public has caused 40% of small businesses to raise prices while 48% of these businesses are unable to find workers.

    It also turns out that more than half of the unemployment money the U.S. handed out in response to the fake pandemic has been stolen and sent overseas by fraudsters. https://www.axios.com/pandemic-unemployment-fraud-benefits-stolen-a937ad9d-0973-4aad-814f-4ca47b72f67f.html

    There is also a continuing slide into anarchy. For example businessmen in Fell’s Point Maryland threatened to stop paying taxes unless the city government did things like collect trash, enforce parking offenses, stop the illegal sale of drugs and alcohol on the street, and let the police do their job. https://www.scribd.com/document/511058781/Letter-to-City-Leaders-From-Fells-Point-Business-Leaders-6-8-21-Final#from_embed

    In Oregon meanwhile, they decided to give the homeless their right to camp and live on public streets and property.  In other words, say goodbye to parks and public streets. https://thepostmillennial.com/oregon-legislature-passes-bill-to-allow-homeless-to-legally-camp-on-public-property/

    There is also a continuing descent into violence and lawlessness as this headline illustrates:

    “After historically deadly 2020, Atlanta homicides are up nearly 60% in 2021.” https://www.ajc.com/news/after-historically-deadly-2020-atlanta-homicides-are-up-nearly-60-in-2021/N63RJ5OKQZCZVOCNH2D6376S3E/

    Also, there were more than 600 mass shootings – those involving four or more people who were shot – in 2020, and that record is expected to be surpassed in 2021.

    Even as their U.S. slave regime continues its collapse, the KM is still not planning to go quietly into the night.  They are now threatening to shut down global commerce. Their World Economic Forum division issued the following veiled threat last week saying, “The key message voiced by experts at WEF and other international platforms is that supply chain security is to become a major cybersecurity issue in 2021.”  They also said “the world is becoming ever more interconnected… In this context, a single vulnerable link is enough to bring down the entire system, just like the domino effect.” https://cyberpolygon.com/about/#link-s181

    https://cyberpolygon.com/news/bezopasnoe-razvitie-tsifrovykh-ekosistem-stanet-glavnoy-temoy-mezhdunarodnogo-cyber-polygon/

    The G7 communiqué hinted at specific targets by noting “risks to the resilience of the critical global supply chains, in areas such as critical minerals and semiconductors.”  A taste of this came when the Taiwanese government ordered “King Yuan, which is a key supplier for Nvidia, Intel, MediaTek, and many other top global chip developers, to stop all of its foreign laborers from working.  The order was effective immediately, regardless of COVID test results.”

    Russian FSB sources for their part say KM mercenaries disguised as “IS,” “Boko Haram” etc. continue to steal gold and other precious minerals from Africa “on behalf of investors residing in the U.S.”

    From a military perspective, the way to stop these criminals is to remove their control of central banks, because then they will lose their ability to finance mayhem. We have talked to IS and other mercenaries and they say they are paid in Swiss francs.  So Switzerland remains a high-priority military target.

    Also, KM control of the UN, the WHO, the International Civil Aviation Organization, and the International Maritime Organization needs to be ended.  It was control of these organizations that allowed them to use a fake pandemic to shut down the world economy and blackmail humanity.

    A good look also needs to be taken at certain Chinese factions.  There was a report on Jim Stone freelance about students being grabbed at 100 schools in China during lunch hour.  Recently I have been unable to read his reports on my computer but was able to on my iPhone.  However, the report was deleted from my iPhone as I was reading it.  This is a good sign the Rockefellers, as a part of their deal with a certain Chinese faction to get support for their Biden avatar government, handed the keys of Japanese digital censorship to China.

    Also, although I do not know why the students were taken, I do recall the head of a Taiwan-based Asian secret society saying that their revenge for SARS “would be unpredictable and worse than you expect.”  The fact that only Westerners have been injected with dangerous vaccines in response to this fake pandemic gives rise to the question of whether or not this was their revenge.  If so, China may be sheltering its best and brightest from the inevitable retaliation that will come if they are proven to be behind the vaccine campaign.

    On a final note this week, we got the following intelligence from our source in the secret space program:

    “All the news about Antarctica is being pushed now to keep everyone off of what is happening in Greenland. Russia is working closely with the U.S. military (Trump and Putin) developing a unique underground base that is directly connected with our off-world family.  They are sharing new technologies that are not available here yet.  This is the new area 51.  China is not part of this operation”.

    Let us see how this develops as time will tell.
    Consider Situation-Ethics and Possibility-Thinking Relative to the Information-War in the Context of Artificial-Intelligence, Undetectable-Poisons, and Nefarious-Entities. This Might be Just the Beginning of Sorrows for Humanity as the World Becomes Smaller, Faster, and Crazier. The Omega of Apostasy Might be of a MOST Startling Nature. I've Pulled My Punches in a Benevolent Yet Realistic Mental and Spiritual Exercise but Others Might NOT be Nearly as Nice. It Might be MUCH Later Than We Think in a Potentially No-Win Situation. Consider reading Luke, Acts to Jude, Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations (just to see where that leads). This might need to occur with a pastoral-scholarly dynamic-equilibrium and hermeneutic-neutrality for completely-ignorant fools with a god-complex. I wish to continue to make it clear that I am incredibly miserable and hamstrung, and its getting MUCH Worse. I'm beginning to suspect that somehow the Hypothetical Ancient-Matrix cracks-down on ALL Threats (Good and Bad) as a Harsh Governance Modality. The Messianic and/or Melchizedekian Concept might reach far-beyond the Historical-Jesus (as found in the Gospels). This thing might be much different and worse than we think. Consider the Discipline of Scripture in Luke, Acts to Jude, Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes (for starters). Dr. Graham Maxwell spoke of the Larger-View. I enjoyed his books, recordings, and Sabbath-School Classes but I kept getting the sinking-feeling that there was a Larger-View of a Larger-View lurking in the shadows. When we see past the Cover-Stories we might NOT like the Real-Deal. Decades ago, I noticed some very grim-looking high-profile elite-theologians, and I wasn't sure I wanted to know what they knew. Still, I suspect we need to labor onward and upward, for better or worse, till death do us part. Will most of us Stand Before a Holy God Without a Mediator?? Consider this Gravestone: "Stop, my friend, as you pass by. As you are now, so once was I. As I am now, you will surely be. So, prepare yourself to follow me."



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    I thought I had more time but things are getting REALLY BAD (Physically, Mentally, and Spiritually). I should probably stop complaining because I get the sinking-feeling that EVERYONE is going to get what I've got and I'm NOT talking about a virus. Think in terms of Undetectable-Poisons, Artificial-Intelligence, and Nefarious-Entities. If I'm some sort of an Ancient to Modern Emissary-Warden, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemies. It might be an eternal-sentence rather than an executive-privilege. Again, this is just modeling the unthinkable and unknowable for research-purposes. Learn what you can but don't try this at home, kiddies. It's a nasty-job but someone has to do it (or something to that effect). More Blue Roller.

    Hey Nannu , glad you enjoyed the interaction and sorry I had to keep the focus narrow. Just got back from awesome holiday in NZ , did not want to come back . To busy to continue here but hey Oz is a beaut country despite the bastard Polies and you will be alright . Articulating is a big part of making your point felt . Saw the Star Wars Movie again yesterday which was great . 'Its true, all of it.' (Han Solo) I mentioned years ago how X pilots traditionally wear brown leather jackets and still do now. So it was nice to see the top gun hand his jacket to the Storm trooper who defected. That's kind of what I have tried to do here . Because its the right thing to do . Love and truth, just let it in . When the force awakens, it awakens those who are ready . The trick is to not confuse compassion with need. Hope you find what your looking for . Because its right under your feet and over your head down here ! Cheers I do get the Vegan thing up to a point , and only up to a point . When does vegetable matter become flesh though and what if any is the difference between live leaf and live flesh ? All plants are conscious and the evidence for that piles up really quickly if you care to search. I don't like factory farming of animals, plants or people , but most humans are factory animals . They live in Boxes instead of nature .They live in front of computers instead of amongst life. Vegans don't cope well with wild nature on the whole. They are domesticated idealists who claim the moral high ground by calling flesh eaters 'murderers' ! Quick to judge but slow to get real. No native tribes people of any culture can survive without some kind of flesh/meat source. Evolution baby. Its still here and you would not be here without it. So do we kill all the carnivores to make it right ? The cats, the dogs, the chickens ( yes they love flesh when they can catch it ), the mice and rats that eat cockroaches/bugs, and on it goes ? Mother Nature is a pragmatist not an idealist . Carnivores and Carrion eaters pick up and dispose of the old and dying before their rotting flesh causes outbreaks of disease . Left unconsumed , those carcasses can cause a huge imbalance in the circle of life. If your an old Springbok with arthritis, chances are you will happily make your self prey for a Hungry lioness and her children to be free of the pain and futility of old age and a worn out body. Your gonna go sometime anyway so may as well get it over with . Fact is , unlike most of Humanity , animals know death is not the end and meet it with dignity when the time comes. Humans , ignorant and fearful of life itself, rationalize it with fundamentalist beliefs that have no bearing in fact or experience. Dogs can see the dead , so can Cats . Its common for Soldiers using infra red night vision to see 'Ghosts' too . Open your eye's and the truth is harder to ignore. Are Enzymes Live ? yes. And fresh vegetables are full of them. In the natural world, carnivores only take what they need and no more . Omnivores likewise . Monkeys do hunt for and eat meat when they can get it. There is always a bigger fish but its the smallest creatures that consume the biggest when they too die. In OZ the ants can consume a full grown wombat carcass in a week ! Just pick it clean . Those disgusting little creatures ! Yet without them the soil would not remain fertile for fruit and nut tree's . So when the only creatures left on the planet are vegans its going to be a very boring, up tight place. No Birds , no mammals , no felines, no Venus fly traps ! Lots of ruminants that are not kept in check by predators and thus consume to much plant life ,followed by catastrophic feed shortage and mass death . End result . Dead planet. Behind every obsessive belief is a dirty little secret . People who are OCD clean freaks are usually victims of some kind of sexual abuse . As are so many church goer's . Nature is not Un natural. Human beliefs are. Not trying to justify murder or immorality . Just saying the circle of life has to be diverse . We are not our bodies. Our bodies have a finite life span. Deal with it. Humans indulge weakness .Turn a blind eye to inbreeding . Hide from life instead of embrace it . Compensation is no substitute for elevation. Anyway, must get back to living . The rain will end soon enough. Humans are omnivores . That is the oldest lamest excuse that Vegetarians and Vegans always drag out . Your a primate Burgundia , deal with it . Monkeys/chimpanzees LOVE flesh when they can hunt it down. And they do , Google it. Many Humans have sharp pointed upper incisors . Human teeth are adapted as are their digestive systems ,to an omnivorous diet. You would not enjoy the Brain mass equivalent to a Dolphin if your ancestors , like Dolphins ,did not eat meat. Amazing. And if you really think Ruminants such as Elephants dont ingest meat as they forage then you really are in denial. Elephants eat tree's and in every tree canopy there will be masses of small insects. It all goes in the Pot . Fruitarians look down on Vegans, vegans look down on vegetarians and They look down on meat eaters. Such a ludicrous class structure. Fruit Trees feed on decaying plant and flesh matter ! Worms feed on buried flesh . Best start you can give a tree sapling ? Plant it on top of road kill. Yes I have done that . Chickens eat grass and meat . Free range ones anyway. Humans ! So quick to Judge , so slow to build an honest relationship with nature. I dont have a problem with anyone choosing not to eat meat but all diets are relative. Spinach is a great source of protein Yes , BUT its very high in Oxalic acid too , so you dont want to eat it to often or it will damage your vital organs ! Same with Meat . To much meat and to little fresh greens ,asking for trouble. To much fruit sugar and not enough fibre ,same potential problems. Buddha ? ,well its all apocryphal in the end . He always seems to look well fed though. Personally my experience tells me I need all the food groups in proportion to maintain energy ,bone density and general good health. I know of a few Vegans around here with premature osteoporosis . You can see their backs hunching over as their spinal column caves in. Also ,they look malnourished and pale . The problem is unless you grow your own fresh, the food is dead . Store bought is to late to provide the live enzymes your body needs. Eat grains ? Good. Because they are full of dead weevils . Great source of Vitamin B. I only buy organic free range as far as possible when it comes to meat . I did a stint on a factory pig farm when i was young. It made me sick to my stomach . That farm is now gone due to public outcry thankfully. Its a great tragedy yes and I agree its not evolution at all , its the reverse . My daughter loves animals and does not know how to be cruel to them but she loves meat to much . I struggle to get her to eat more vegetables and it annoys me . Before the Spanish came the native south Americans got most of their protein from beans but the conquistadors soon realized that in order to get them to work as slaves for long hours they had to get them to eat more meat . Factory farming meat keeps the machines wheels moving . I dont like it at all . Sedentary farm based societies all have this problem . Very little food is fresh , meat or veg or fruit. I grow as much of our own as we can but not as much as I would like. I like my food raw and as unprocessed as possible . Juicing leaves from our garden helps me a lot I find . dandelion leaf with carrots and apple ,stuff like that . Food is life , but to much of what most people eat is dead . Junk food from factories laden with poison . I remember when my wife was pregnant . Normally she eats very little meat but one day she got a serious craving and ate a huge T bone so quick it was gone in 30 seconds . I dont eat nearly as much as i used to and I feel better for it . But i think you have to avoid being dogmatic . Quality food means a lot of effort. I had a massive year of oranges this last year . Fantastic fruit for tissue repair . Improved my eyesight by five diopters in one year . I was juicing and drinking ten oranges a day. The tree was heavily fertilized with sea weed. Trace Minerals are so important . Garlic is another great one for that . I eat loads of it . Mediterranean diet works best for me. I cant vote on this because, perversely perhaps, I believe its almost impossible to be a 100% pure vegan in practice . Not saying its not okay or bad . Classic example. Many Indian vegetarians started suffering from severe malnutrition when they moved to Britain even though they were eating the same traditional diet they brought with them . Why ? because the unpolished ,unwashed and untreated rice they ate in India contained live and dead Weevils and their eggs ! In the UK it was found that the polished, treated, sterile white rice they ate did not provide a vital source of B Vitamins. Vitamin B deficiency leads to all sorts of problems . Rickets I think is one (actually I think that's more Vit D). This is why the British developed yeast extract spreads such as Marmite. Our Immune system eats bacteria . We breath in billions of microscopic organisms everyday which Our lungs have to process too ! Nothing is wasted though. The human body is an amazing system. So I just got back from two weeks in New Zealand staying with a friend who has an Organic Dairy Farm. Grass fed all year round .Best quality milk in the world . You have not tasted Milk until you have drunk it raw straight from the vat . So sweet . Cows that are loved and well fed/looked after will happily give milk . Most processed Milk is of course compromised . I like Prosciutto (pig meat), salted raw meat . If its free range . Only very occasionally with a salad and fresh bread . What I do think is counterproductive is naming anyone who eats meat as part of their diet , a Carnivore . Its just not technically correct to do so. So no I cant vote on this one because also the debate has been skewed by the polarized framing of the question. The French make the best Cheese because they are allowed to use unpasteurized milk . So the calcium is still bio available . Love a good runny French Brie . Yoghurt is so good for you . Never gonna give that up. Food is one of the great Joys of life . IF its fresh, healthy and pure . Good food should be almost orgasmic in the pleasure it gives to eat it . No ,i am not joking .
    Indian Curries are one of the great inventions . Love Indian Food. Cook Indian all the time . I do agree that excessive meat consumption is really bad for you , but I doubt if I will ever be able to cut it out of my diet . I have tried and found after a while my energy level drops to low . My DNA did not evolve on a veggie diet and i am not lactose intolerant. Chicken Eggs are a fantastic source of Omega 3's IF free range . Not gonna give them up either. I don't care which hole they come out of. But they have to be our own eggs. Store bought ones are horrible. Finally I am told that in Queensland, where tropical fruit of high quality is grown everywhere, you can pretty much live just on fruit and little else. But again , only if fresh and in season . Not irradiated ,waxed and god knows what else they do to it. You just cant have a one perfect diet for every location .Local Availability is key to a healthy balanced diet. Why do Humans always have to polarize the debate ? Because being chronic narcissists they are not 'happy' unless they are 'wining' the debate. Its not an issue of wining the debate or being 'right'. Try telling an Eskimo to go vegan, its not going to happen. Try telling a Dolphin to let go of his barbaric Fish eating ways . This debate is not doing anyone any favors because its not realistic . You can only optimize your nutrition and maintain a healthy body by eating FRESH food . Rubbish in ,rubbish out. If your Vegan diet comes from a supermarket instead of the garden , your going to hurt yourself over the long term. In the Midi Pyrenees the french locals eat a diet super high in fats. Duck Liver pate , freshly hunted wild boar and tons of Dairy. Yet they have very low rates of heart disease . Why ? Because its clean ,healthy ,locally produced and eaten along with garden grown Cabbage and other fresh local produce like Walnuts full of Omega 3's. So if a certain cat lover tries to make his pet go Veggie ,whats going to happen to that Cat ? Our cat HUNTS , it does what it evolved to do . Its happy and healthy , not fat and fluffy. You want to be a couch potato ? Keep drinking the fundamentalist Vegan Kool aid. "I dont like to Kill or hurt any living Being". Oh please . You will live and die in your meat sack and get eaten by worms. Accept it. Every day your white blood cells are mercilessly eating invading bacteria to keep you alive . You don't hear them whining about the morality of eating flesh. Well if Milk is 'addictive' may as well give up on food altogether because I am always going to come back for more .Good food gives me a High , no doubt about it. Veggie Curry , sushi , whatever . If that's bad or a sign of 'addiction', frankly I am past caring . Soy is poisonous until its fermented so I avoid that stuff but a lot of vegans/vegetarians are drinking soy 'milk' etc . I went to college with a Vegan who seemed to subsist on nuts and fruit. He looked deathly pale most of the time and worked very slowly ,appearing to lack energy and 'go'. Same with vegetarians I have worked with over the years . But I dont think that means necessarily that they are malnourished so much as maybe the availability of sustained energy levels for physical work is less . So many factors involved. How fresh is their food ,is it organic ? Some weeks I will go minimal meat by eating Sushi and Salads ,potato bakes and the like . But if I do my energy level starts to fade and my ability to focus and concentrate on my work is impaired. No doubt about that in my mind. A lot of fruits contain hormones etc that the tree deliberately provides as an inducement to sell it's seeds for propagation ! talk about natural marketing. Some of the these fruits have mind enhancing properties too . Does that make them bad ? I dont think so personally. Just wish I had access to more of the exotic tropicals . Chocolate ,coffee , in their natural form are full of good stuff but when processed become addictive and sugar laden killers. I just think this is a fascinating subject and I am still learning every day . In south American jungles ,any animal that is sick will eat raw coffee beans for their medicinal properties . Apparently they are very sweet and taste like honey . We grind organic coffee beans and have one cup a day . There is no going back once you have tasted proper organic coffee . Its rich and chocolaty in flavor and I swear its been very positive for me. BUT only one cup a day . Any more and its overstimulating . I have to laugh at the baby food milk thing a bit though. The hormone you are referring to Pris I think is Oxytocin. The same naturally occurring Hormone that gives you the feel good feeling during a peak experience of joy and contentment . Oxytocin helps the body/muscles relax during child birth and OBE's . Hormones are regulated by the pineal gland . OBE is not possible without the Pineal anesthetizing the body and putting it to sleep while the brain remains conscious. So for me I think its premature to dismiss milk in its unadulterated form as bad for you . Most of the time I only have it in tea to neutralize the tannic acid but when i get a craving for it I make massive banana milk shakes and get long all night Lucid dreams. I just listen to my body . I think this is a complex subject and highly relative . One mans meat really is another mans poison. So many variables. I figure if I lived in the south American Jungle I would eat differently to Australia out of necessity . Australia is great because you can grow just about anything if you make the effort and have the land to do it. I just think Food , good food , is the art of living a full and healthy life. Its a spiritual path too , not just a basic necessity. I struggle to understand 'spiritual' people who scorn food or punish themselves with bland boring 'healthy' restrictive diets. The Pus thing first . Caused by Mastitis. Cows that are stressed or milked incorrectly can get an infection in the udder that's true . I have milked Cows on dairy farms when I was younger so I speak from experience there . As soon as a cow gets it , the farmer will siphon off the cows milk so it does not go in the vat. High cell count will destroy his income for that milking and lead to heavy fines . The cow will be treated with anti biotics until the infection is gone . Organic dairying massively reduces the chances of mastitis because the cows are only milked once a day and eat a healthy diet. No antibiotics allowed. So the Pus thing is largely fear mongering and it works . Milk is a food . If you have issues with feeding off a Teet then your relationship with mother earth is one great big teet ! Seriously . Your a parasite riding mother earths back. You pee on her , defecate on her , help yourself to her bounty then complain about the service ! Chlorophyll is plant milk ! Fruit Juice is a trees menstrual fluid and reproductive organs ! And lets not go to deep in to your love of nuts . Why do you attempt to ridicule, infantilise and mock a food source rich in protein ,calcium,magnesium and zinc ? Three of the most important minerals your body needs ? Are Bats infantile for drinking blood? Are fish infantile for breathing water ? Does a tree need to grow up and ween itself off of ground water and stop being a mummy's boy ? NO. There is a reason why ancient cultures called Mother earth mother and carved images of a woman with large hips and huge breasts (Venus of Willendorf) We all are her children and we all suckle from her breast . What possible harm could come from a domesticated cow sharing her excess milk production in exchange for food and protection from predators ? None ,if its done with respect and love. Cows are wonderfully affectionate creatures when you get to know them . If you treat them with gentleness and respect they enjoy being milked by hand . It used to be one of the great pleasures of working on the farm for me. Resting your head against the side of a cow as you gently milk her is an amazing feeling. Food and sex . Two great joys of life . Which is why religion demonizes and guilt's them to control people. If your not getting enough of both you will be miserable and feel unfulfilled . Because your pleasure hormones are not being stimulated. Behind every fanatic is pain ,shame and fear. We are part of nature .Not separate and superior . Oxytocin . Its what gives pregnant women that beautiful glow . The same glow you feel after orgasm with someone you love .The same after glow everyone around you notices when you are happy and in love . Love is the presence of sharing and respect. Anger and hate is the jealousy of those who deny themselves the joy of life and hide from living it. Damned if I will be made to feel guilty for that. A good mother will lay down her life to protect her young and will go to any lengths to feed and protect them. Love is a force of nature not a politically correct, sappy, new age, feel good, self righteous excuse for denying yourself joy and living in a box like a caged animal. Because that is what most people are forced to do. They are factory farmed for profit like battery hens . Cage any animal including humans and it will go mad with despair because of sensual deprivation. No sunlight , no freedom , no choice , no love , no Joy . Having been in and around the creative arts all my life I know, from experience hard won, what makes people tick and the subtext to their beliefs and habits. When I first met my wife she rented a block of land with a friend who had suffered severe sexual abuse as a child . She had, as a result, all sorts of projected baggage that she used to cope with it . A strict Vegan , she embraced the new age movement in all its crazy diversity and dogma's. Her story is heart breaking really and I did not judge her for her pain but I knew to keep my distance. She was profoundly jealous of my relationship with my wife . A very attractive Girl, she knew it and used it to get what she needed and created a mask so complex and contradictory that she was always tied up in knots maintaining the spiritual high ground. It made her feel 'better than' the same way religion props up the low self esteem of insecure people. She shared a dog with my Wife and my wife adored that dog. But when the friendship ended her friend got the dog and chained it up for weeks at a time . After a while the Dog went mad and vicious and had to be put down. Subconsciously ,the girl was punishing her abuser by proxy and my wife for finding love . Unable to hurt my wife directly she punished the dog my wife loved. When a Dog bonds emotionally , its for life . All animals are capable of bonding with others species when they are loved . You cant fake true love. This young lady was vain yet hated her self. She was beautiful but abused her looks to manipulate those around her . She lived for 'approval' yet scorned any genuine help . Mothers who are healthy and loving sacrifice their bodies and looks to raise their children .Its an amazing thing to witness . Another friend ,who my wife and I still keep in touch with is just an amazing, grounded, hard core ,no BS, super Mum. Cows are very motherly and very loving if you grow up with them and spend time with them . They can melt your heart with their big brown eye's and huge lashes . Wish we could keep one. So am I characterizing all Vegans as nut Jobs ? No ,absolutely not . What I am saying is that there is room for tolerance of all dietary habits because the perfect diet does not exist for every one person. I know people who just dont like meat and that's it . Its a choice . My wife does not eat much meat. She does not need it as much . Its all related .Diet , love, food and sex . Its all survival, nurturing and reproduction. Sometimes its hard to witness mother natures apparent extremes but that's only we because we are conditioned to believe we are just our bodies. Men who Hunt , the good ones, know that the hunter often becomes the hunted and that what you take must always be accounted for . You can cut down a tree to build a house but the tree knows its part of the earth and sky and will come again . Soon enough your bones will be a trees next meal . Your last breath, its intake of carbon. All energy is borrowed and sooner or later you have to give it back. Living close to mother earths bosom has taught me so much . And brought me the peace of knowing death is not the end. I took the road less traveled and strangers taught me kindness without thought of return. We shared precious moments and parted but the gift grew in the heart and bore much precious fruit. The courage to love life and live for every day without regret or shame. Let us eat and be merry , for tomorrow we may die. Yes your right ! We need to end the slaughter . So lets start by killing the cats ,the dogs, the raptors , rats and mice and any other creature that dares to predate on other poor innocent creatures . Those murderous Bastards with their fluffy faces and cute looks. How could I have been so cruelly deceived ? Okay ,its genocide but sometimes you gotta get tough to put mother nature in her place. Cant you people see how ludicrous your self righteous arguments are ? But if you want to be 'Milked ' By a predatory financial system that puts you in mortgage cages or forces you to live with your parents , hey dont let me stop you enjoying your 'freedom' to do so . Chickens are omnivores like us. I know that because ours are free range , not kept in a chicken run. We dont farm our chickens. We have a symbiant relationship with them . We provide them with shelter and food and they are happy for us to have any SPARE eggs they are not choosing to sit on . Nature is full of symbiant relationships between species but most URBAN self righteous Diet Police dont know that . Chickens love to be loved and cared for but they are not caged pets. They are free to live everyday on their own terms and forage wherever they want to. They have to run the gauntlet of Foxes and Hawks but I know they would rather that than being cooped up. Can you do that ? How much food do your grow for yourselves ? Or do you buy it with Blood Money ? Its not as simple as you all try to make it. You presume to steal the moral high ground but do you live your truth ? I rather think not. The real world. You cling to Life because you fear death . But death will find you wherever you hide . No animal wants to die before its time and yes we all have the right to fight for our lives . But when your body is worn out ,its worn out and nature provides everything needed to recycle your meat so it does not get wasted. What is wrong with that ? I Love Cheese and if its "not good for me" Frankly I dont care and I dont believe its true anyway. So if being Diet fascists makes you feel good , go for it. But the anger in your words Pris says more about where you are really at than your arguments. For myself ,I only take what I need and no more . But if you really think this one life is all there is then your not being honest with yourselves nor do you grasp the essence of life . Your clutching at straws and arguing for the scarecrow. Whats the main ingredient of Milk ? water . What are the most important minerals we need to maintain healthy bone density ? Calcium and magnesium. Food is food . And just a reminder , I don't actually walk up to cows and suckle while they Graze though its not unusual for starving children to do so in third world countries. Cows and goats have been living with humans for centuries , accept it. When a carnivore eats a carcass , nothing gets left behind but the bare bones. The tree's are allowed to have those. Physical life is a testing ground for evolution. And yes it is dog eat dog in some ways . But it would not exist in all its fabulous variety if you did not have a mix of herbivore's ,omnivores and Carnivores . They need each other to maintain the diversity ,Can you people not see that ? The worms will not suffer any pangs of guilt when they chow down on your redundant breasts and legs and brain . They just know they are hungry and serve a vital function in maintaining soil health and fertility. Or are you going to start digging them up and give them a good talking to ? "Now listen here ,you slimy little bastard ,that's disrespectful eating someones body , its only been dead a week ! Have you no Pity ?" "Nope". The only reason I am bothering to post right now is because the rain has stopped me putting down the foundations on my house and because I think Food is the vital essence of a happy life . The French and Italians know this better than anyone else and have turned the enjoyment of quality food in to a pivotal part of their culture. I admire that greatly . We are all made of star dust ,the building blocks of life . DNA is the code that puts it all together to make a body. The most primitive single celled organisms eat each other , recycle each other. You would not be here if that was not true. Often the worst murderers are the fanatics who promise peace and justice . The human body is incredibly adaptable in its dietary requirements IF the food is fresh and of high quality. But if your a lazy idealist someone else ends up putting the food on your table . The price is usually your freedom. Animal farm is a metaphor for fascism and socialism . So really , what are you prepared to do to live YOUR truth ? Or are you just recycling someone Else's at face value ? If people stopped arguing over the moral high ground and started looking for common ground to grow food on , maybe this polarized and fruitless arguing would be unnecessary ? Funny thing about food > if you eat the right combination you will start to change sex. How awesome is that ? Hey , I could start suckling on my own breasts if I worked hard enough . Heh heh Naughty Whistle Talk about your circle of life . But nah , not really . Baramundi is an Aussie fish that does just that and man it tastes good too. Food high's are the best . I also found out a very interesting thing .If, like Mediterraneans you want the pleasure of eating meet without clogging your arteries , no problem. Eat plenty of Garlic , lemon and fresh veggies because the DMSO, Lemon Juice and Vit C dissolves the harmful fats . Its the ultimate natural fat solvent combo. A bit of red wine helps too. Red red wine............ I eat meat but my Cholesterol levels are optimal . Not worried about that at all. Orthy, you just do what makes you happy . If your happy with what you eat that's all that matters, right ? I Mountain Bike to keep fit and its a great fat burner . Meat is for people who are very active and need protein conversion FAST. I'm not an expert on sports diets really , but I know what works and what does not. Some weeks I cant eat meat at all. I just crave salads with loads of Beetroot. Variety is good . I just listen to my body. If I do a really long hard ride of 35 K's or more by the time I am done I crave meat badly and need to get a big fat juicy steak on the barbecue. Sorry but where my people evolved from we eat meat . Don't like it , go to planet Zog where spindly politicaly correct Vegans breath pure prana and heavily blessed lettuce leaves .Its all good. Okay nanu . Which came first ? the free range Meat or the cows Udder that fed the calf ? My cat LOVES cows milk and Cream. If we make a cheese sauce we always put some in her Bowl . She laps it up. On the other hand a calf would have a hard time wrapping its big slobbering mouth around a cats teet . Cant believe you would think of subjecting a poor little cat to that kind of humiliation . Sick sick boy. I worked on a dairy farm in Denmark . The barn was full of Barn cats . Barn Cats are a huge tradition on farms because they keep the rats and mice under control and come milking time always hanging around for a drink of milk. If I pulled on a cows teat and aimed it at the Cats they would all snap at the milk . Funny. Some cats like raw Eggs but it upsets our cats stomach , to alkaline apparently . Sometimes its hard to keep a straight face when Vegans get all hot under the collar about dairy . Making out like dairy eaters are babies who cant grow up ! Nuts are baby food for tree saplings , Hello . True. Just put an avocado seed in a glass of water and watch it consume the nut as the sprout grows. So Keep on eating those baby nuts Vegans because its a saplings life you are depriving with your greed .

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    Former Pfizer VP and Virologist, Dr. Michael Yeadon, is one of the most credentialed medical professionals speaking out about the dangers of the Covid19 vaccines, yet it has fallen on deaf ears. With great honor, The HighWire gives Dr. Yeadon the floor to break down his “list of lies” that keeps him up at night, when it comes to lockdowns, masks, PCR testing, natural immunity, and why he thinks our health leaders have abandoned science and reason.

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    Reports are coming in claiming that many public buildings in Washington, DC are, today, CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC.


    I was informed a few minutes ago that all buildings closed to the public and all tours suspended until further notice in DC.

    National Zoo closed
    Holocaust Museum closed
    National Archives closed
    JFK Center of Performing Arts closed
    National Cherry Blossom Festival canceled
    Arlington National Cemetery Closed to the public
    Museum of the Bible closed
    National Capital and House and Senate Buildings closed to public and all tours suspended
    Library of Congress closed to public
    FBI Building closed to public
    Pentagon closed to public


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    UPDATE 1:43 PM EDT --

    Closures now CONFIRMED by a sitting member of the US Congress:

    United States Capitol and House and Senate Office Buildings: All Buildings CLOSED to public and tours SUSPENDED until further notice

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    White House (Call 202-456-7041 for updates)

    FBI Building: Building CLOSED to public and all tours SUSPENDED until further notice

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    Holocaust Museum: Building CLOSED to public and all tours SUSPENDED until further notice

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    John F. Kennedy Center for Performing Arts (season info): Building CLOSED to public and all performances SUSPENDED until further notice

    National Cherry Blossem Festival: All events CANCELLED

    Arlington National Cemetary: CLOSED to public; OPEN to families for visitation; scheduled funerals will CONTINUE as planned

    Museum of the Bible: CLOSED (through January 28)

    International Spy Museum: OPEN

    National Arboretum: Grounds only OPEN (The National Bonsai & Penjing Museum and Administration Building are still CLOSED to the public)
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    My Mentor was largely vegetarian and a man of very slight build . At the end of his life he decided to go breatharian and ate little more than a handful of nuts and water . I still have his hand typed notes on how to do it successfully . He passed on in his late nineties . He had a long and healthy life free of any major ailments . I miss him greatly even though I know he is alive again in another body. Energy takes on so many different forms. We bathe in it .Solar, electromagnetic ,Gravitic etc. Our Physical bodies feed on all these sources and food and oxygen. I LOVE being in a Physical Body. I love making love to life in my body. I am not ashamed of my body at all . I have been blessed by good Genes because my family see's the virtue in looking after the soul that keeps the body in good condition. Its not enough to feed the body if you neglect the soul. Love starved people are eating way their bodies with anger and grief ,no matter how well they protest they feed it. The soul is hungry for experience , not empty promises and chatter . The soul does not care much for TV and computers. It wants to get out there and do stuff . It wants to feel alive in a body, not imprisoned/dead . My chickens don't want to survive in a cage .They want to run around .They want to come in our house and check out the furniture . They want my daughter to pick them up and stroke them. The soul craves diversity and stimulation. It wants the madness ,the hurt ,the pain and the fulfillment . It knows tomorrow is another day on the road to infinity. It does not worry about the crap that fear programmed minds do. Soul Food . Why eat alone when you can stare across a candle lit table at someone beautiful ? Don't lie to me and tell me you would prefer the former to the later. I like Eartha Kit. I too live on an old property which precedes all the corporate legislation. If you dont reserve your rights explicitly its implied consent to theirs. I watch Sci Fi and enjoy it in the evening now and then when the days work is done . The problems occur when the screen becomes the main theme. A lot of celebs are very tuned in people who know how important it is to escape the Hollywood meat grinder and keep it real. Staying grounded when you are surrounded by greedy egotists is vital for your sanity. There was a famous actress who way before her time spoke openly about white sugar being a poison . So true. We dont keep any in our house and soda/coke etc is banned . Thankfully my daughter has no taste for it at all. Funny how people who miss romantic love in their lives often dismiss it as something they dont want or need . Denial does not make the need go away. Love can take so many avenues though .Passion for an art form or adventure travel . Infinite possibilities when you dare to imagine for yourself. Love denied is one of the most self destructive avenues. Men who deny their feminine side become bitchy .Women who dont allow their masculine side free expression become angry and cruel. When we listen to our heart , we go with the flow of nature and nature happily reaches out to communicate with us . If we listen. Chickens will talk back if you talk to them. They will hang out with you in the garden . Cats and dogs we know do that but all animals will consider communicating with you if you can be proven trust worthy. Beam love, my Mentor use to say. Beam love to everyone and everything . It reminds me of the young man who asked his father for advice on Girls. "Dad , how can you tell if a Girl likes you ?" "Easy, she will let you know she hates you for no good reason !" "why do they do that ?" "So that they can get your attention and have an emotional connection" "That does not make sense to me" "I know , but they think we are to stupid to notice without making a fuss , which is pretty much true " "So there's this Girl I like and I think she likes me but one minute its on and the next its off. Whats that all about ?" "She feels vulnerable and does not want to experience hurt or rejection , just like you " "So what do I do ?" "Be yourself and ask her for a date. Or do you want to spend the rest of your life asking yourself 'what if' ?" "How did you figure this stuff out Dad ? " "By dating ,failing and learning the hard way. Dont worry .If its meant to be it will happen naturally. If it does not you move on and I guarantee it wont be long before another girl captures your attention." "They are good at that dad " "Youth is to precious to waste waiting for someone else to do the footwork for you .You just have to get out there and do it. You will win some and loose some , but the experience will make you stronger ,wiser and more attractive to the Girl who is worth the bother."
    "you make is sound so easy!" "It is, once you get the hang of it" "Dad ?" "Yeeeeees" "Can I borrow your car ?" Bob , I cant figure out how to attach anything with computers otherwise I would have . Never give much time to figuring out anything that uses a keyboard. I look forward to the explosion of inexpensive gadgetry from 3D printing. Unfortunately , if 3D printing gets taken over by AI we are in big trouble. I got solar on my workshop now.Enough to run three phase machinery on a sunny day. So I am happy about that . Massively reduced my electricity bill. $80 a quarter instead of $320. But you know panels in future will be way more efficient and store energy as well. At least they are cheaper now. I like to have a mix of high and low tech . Love the gadgets that make life fun and interesting but computers are not my thing. The Military round here trains with cloaking cammo all the time . It works pretty good except in bright head lights at night . Sometimes you will see an invisible but slightly grey shadow of a person . Its not a perfect cloaking system but it works well at a distance . Once they get within about fifty yards though it starts to be fairly obvious. Sometimes they will play tricks on me for laughs because they know I am on to them but its all in fun . Jung had an expression for this sort of thing . Being in the grip of your anima/animus. The need for approval ,acceptance and belonging is perfectly natural .In a natural world . But this is not a natural world . Its an urbanized Nightmare where masks are worn to appeal at face value and the real face is not welcome. Its the prisoners dilemma. There is only one way to get past that madness . Let go of the need for approval. People who seek it because they lack it have no faith in their own ability to find fulfillment . Narcissists always slam the door when you dont play the game to supply their need. Then your supposed to grovel and beg your way back in to their favor! They play you back and forth with conditional hints of approval and doll out the occasional throw away compliment. Empty words don't fill wounded hearts though. "Was it something I said ?" "No , it was your failure to submit" Its Fascinating to watch the shifting sands on forums where people nitpick over the silliest things. Parents who put conditions on their approval do so to enslave their children . Then the child, crippled emotionally into adulthood, is unable to find the courage within themselves to be themselves. They 'live' waiting for the change and the acceptance to occur but it never comes from Narcissistic parents. So very sad .So very common. Love starved adults feeding their face but neglecting their soul. How many adults eat badly because they hate themselves ? How many deny the flesh because they are ashamed of it ? Extreme neglect leads to extreme denial and extreme beliefs. I see so many crippled daughters of selfish parents every day. Mothers who cripple their daughters self esteem with cutting remarks 'that meant nothing'. Fathers who are to spineless to nip it in the bud. Its never just about food, or 'God' or things in general . Its what is not said that colors the conversation and creates issues. Men who hide their inadequacies behind big toys and BS. Women who obsesses about birthdays ,anniversaries ,weddings and funerals so they can turn them in to emotional Crap storms. You dont leave home until you find your own voice . And once you have you may find just two or three people in your life with authenticity . The rest you leave to their games. Emotional crutches ,wheelchairs , adopted beliefs . I would rather be content with one loving partner than another stage prop in a wedding drama. Talk about getting down to the emotional meat and potatoes ! Oops . Did I mention meat and a vegetable in the same sentence ? Whip me with soggy organic rice noodle. Heh heh Cheer up Oxy .Sure there is no hope for me. Im going to meat lovers Hell but you know , whenever I feel someone in pain the first question I ask myself is 'do they have a partner that fulfills them ?' . Its hard , really hard to find that right person. And when you do ,you have to fight for them and with them to keep the love alive . Everyday I go out I see, because of hard won experience , whats not there you know ? Sure , everyone may smile, bluff and joke their way forward but deep down you can see/feel the emptiness and loneliness .The sheer lack of meaningful connection. People who are content and happy in their own skin are the fortunate few. They dont identify with religion or Diet or Sexual orientation. They don't place that stuff at the center of their identity . Its peripheral , incidental. There is only so much entertainment can do to distract you and getting meaningful feedback on a forum makes about as much sense as looking for a committed partner in a singles bar. And if you do connect on a meaningful level without it being real and face to face ,your tortured by it. Its a long distance relationship. So if you dont mind me asking, What do you feel is missing in your life ? And if so does it seem beyond reach ? Dont feel obliged to reply if it makes you uncomfortable of course but putting aside all the 'stuff', whats the essence ? The only reason I am posting right now is boredom and frustration because of the weather holding me up. And I enjoy hearty banter with a bit of edge to it . And okay ,I cant resist winding up people who take their dietary identity a tad to seriously . Comfort Food. Chicks love it . Cheese, Pizza,chocolate, ice cream, etc. And why not ? Sure Its important to eat a healthy diet but there are a million other reasons to eat too. Some people eat like its Church on Sunday every bloody day . Bugger that. Oh and sure , Barbecues are bad for you because of the burnt flesh and blah blah blah . But every now and then Im going to fire the damn thing up and enjoy every last bit of it with a cold beer . Im sorry , I don't remember addressing you directly in any way shape or form Pris. I DID specifically make an effort to engage Orthodoxymoron. So, with respect, may I ask you not to interfere ? Or are you convinced my input in this thread revolves around you ? Its not your thread , its not mine either . So if your still aggrieved about closing the thread I started may I politely suggest you get over not being the center of attention. OR start another thread with someone else in Dialogue form . And since I am entitled to an opinion that does not gel with yours you need not concern yourself with my input any further . Its not always about you . Its about diet . Its about choices. Its about everyone having the right to eat ,think and feel however they choose. You think your issues are unique to you ? No , far from it. They are as common as mud . Sorry to burst your bubble but while you may feel exalted by your Diet choice ,the vast majority of people are struggling with many issues that affect their food choices. Its a serious subject which could use some levity to keep it real . Having seen the issues first hand that color people's eating disorders and choices I choose to share them here .The fact that I am prepared to be candid and frank rather than pump vegan propaganda may rankle. I am not impressed by Vegan body builders pumping up their bodies with useless muscle in a Gym! How lame is that ? Gyms are a hot bed for insecure people with body image issues. Not to mention the steroids and testosterone. My opinions may not sit well with you but I don't care . I have friends who did permanent damage to vital organs trying to be healthy eaters. Its not easy getting a healthy diet in to your body these days . There are many traps and pitfalls and not all of them are the result of junk food and processed factory farming. I have seen to many friends and loved ones starve themselves by taking a dogmatic approach to diet . I have seen what happens when the underlying issues are not addressed and the diet is an act of desperation rather than a natural expression of that persons needs and personal preference. These are people I knew long before you . One is now suffering from chronic organ failure . This is a woman I was deeply fond of in my youth . Eating disorders are epidemic these days and there are a great many factors involved. These vulnerable people are not helped by those who adopt a fear based fundamentalist attitude to eating. Eating should be Joyous and guilt free .Not a politically correct mantra. To repetitive for you ! ? At least my diet is not . And my argument is for tolerance of diet choice, not demonizing omnivores. If i did not make that clear before then hopefully I have now. I will not be addressing you again Pris. If you choose to assume I am then its because you think your different. Your Not. Nobody on this forum avoids the need for love ,food and compassion. Its called nurturing and respecting differences. Its called being happy and at peace . When people attack each other because they dont agree then whats the point ? Forums are not about agreeing with everyone else. They are by definition ,places where people debate issues and express their own unique opinions. People can and do evolve through debate . Nothing wrong with a bit of heat in the Kitchen. Personally , I enjoy and admire those who take me on and dont share my perspective IF they are sincere and passionate. Time for a glass of red wine I think. And a Big lump of cheese with sliced apple. Excuse my if I dont feel guilty about it either . F**k It , I have had enough too . Never ,ever try to reason with a Narcissist . Your only an extension of their ego and I have not met one yet that had anything original to say beyond recycling other people's words without understanding a single word of it. But getting back on Topic I remember this Danish Girl I fell in love with many years ago now. Wow, what a babe she was . Talk about falling off a cliff and landing in the brambles . I was working on dairy farm at the time and met her through my then GF (that's boo hiss on two counts in one sentence ,hammer hammer). She was a vision of sophisticated beauty ,elan , style and cool . You could have pushed me over with a wet noodle even though I am not gluten intolerant. You know what its like when you fall in love ? I was possessed by her from the moment I set eye's on her . How does that work ? So eventually I went to visit her and she showed me around Copenhagen, a beautiful city . We never did anything beyond a goodbye hug but a few years later I wrote to her when I was at college and told her how smitten I was with her . She asked if she could visit me and stay with me in London and of course I said hell yes . Here is the sad part. When I met her at the airport I hardly recognized her. The slim trim elegant girl I met before had put on quite a Lot of weight . Not obese by any means but she was overweight . But we had a great time and laughed a lot .She enjoyed my friends and my friends graciously put us up at their apartment in a swanky inner suburb. Of course she asked me what was wrong when I felt unable to rekindle my feelings. That was the hard part , realizing that the confidence and self control she had before was an elaborate act . So as we sat in the park, she told me why . She suffered from Bulimia . The result of being abused by her father . A left wing radical who hid his real nature behind any good cause you cared to mention . She hated her body because it brought unwelcome attention from her father . So she starved herself half to death trying to discourage him. Of course ,eventually she swung the other way and got very overweight, when that did not work . All the time using veggie diet as an excuse to rationalize her eating habits. So much of the damage I did to my body cannot be undone now , she said . I choked up. This is just one example of many I could relate . But I think that's enough to make the point . So when anyone tries to steal the moral high ground and preach their dietary habits , I am asking myself , is this the real you or an excuse ? Do you where a mask in front of the mirror or do you take it off and at least be honest with yourself ? Why punish your body when it can give you so much sensual pleasure. You know. Eating , making love , walking in the park with a special someone , for crying out loud. You don't have to be lovers to enjoy real companionship but when people lash out at each other for no good reason , its usually because they hate themselves. They cave in and give up on life . Its a beautiful morning here in NSW Sanicle and as long as I am in this body I am going to savor every special second of it . Coffee Pot On ! Seamless integration under whom and what ? Its like the flea claiming owner ship of the dog or the vegan claiming moral superiority over omnivores and carnivores . Never gonna happen. But dont worry. Your Lizard overlords are to busy chasing wild game to waste their time on fat, lazy, self obsessed humans with atrocious eating habits. They prefer free range to factory fodder , bit like me. The lone free ranger wandering through the factory and watching the pigs bark for food instead of freedom. Tragic. Seriously though. Its another beautiful day when you let go of the self recrimination and guilt . You need a break from this forum. To many grandstanding guru's pitching for a Bitching instead of getting busy in the Kitchen. I'm watering my fruit trees this morning with solar power . Then I am going to drink a gallon of fermented Urine with a poop sandwich. Just kidding. Humans ! you cant make this stuff up .They do it for you. Chinatown ? Nice . Melbourne is quite probably the only city I could cope with living in, for a while anyway. Sydney is nice for the harbor but pretty grim otherwise . Re the narcissist thing, I use that term in the most general sense as being symptomatic of a society motivated by greed . Seen its ill effects to many times. It casts a long grey shadow over to many people's lives and hamstrings them . I blame the parents myself. Thankfully the younger generations are cottoning on to it now and don't let that crap fly. Getting fairly warm outside now. Yesterday was stinking hot . I was getting cooked . Had to leave my body for a while .

    orthodoxymoron wrote:I really am leaving for a while BUT as I leave, I'd love to know what you all think about the possibility of a seamless integration of the following (in the context of the twenty-second century)??

    1. The Catholic Church.
    2. The United Kingdom.
    3. The United States.
    4. The United Nations.
    5. The United States of the Solar System.

    I realize this is off-topic -- but I'm interested in the opinions of those who have recently been posting on this particular thread. I might not comment for a while -- so don't take it personally if I don't respond. I need to walk alone. Online and in Real-Life. I don't want to drag anyone through my nightmare. It's easier that way. Namaste.



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    Grass Fed meat is universal in Australia Nanu ! you know that .That's why it tastes so good. Way better than that corn fed ,feed lot American crap. Beef farming is actually pretty ethical here . Its all free range , low input raised . Americans love to boast about their meat but its super toxic . But then Boasting about exceptionalism is a national pass time . Beef and dairy in the US is a disaster area that keeps the billions pouring in their extortionate "health" care system. Its not the fat alone that clogs the arteries , its all the chemicals ,hormones and pesticides for crying out loud. Its the same with Dairy here , mostly grass fed all year round like NZ . So that's why I dont loose any sleep over red meat . Actually I sleep better after a nice rare steak . Oh yeah. I really shouldn't but I cant help myself . Maybe One day when you are all fed a 'vegan' diet inside a big barn with bars and barbed wire , you will re think freedom of choice a bit. The Sandwich: Every shame we choose to ignore. Get's projected outward , more and more. Love denied turned to hate. Those who care turned away at the gate. We missed the Boat , we missed the train. Turned down the wings of a liberating plane. Chewing on our stale plots. Refusing to undo the binding locks . Behind a cage for so so long. Cant even see what makes it wrong. Don't take me away without my crutches. I'm used to living in Rabbit Hutches. Freedom called us long ago. But when the call came we refused to go. Addicted to our predictable life . Hen pecked husband meet angry wife ! Food for thought and thought for food. Get me in a better mood. Take within what empowers two and pack a lunch that will provide for you. Never to late to start a Journey.... Until death steals it from the unworthy. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Only the same old tired games . Old and frail, all hope lost. To ashamed to reckon the cost. Dim and silent , eye sight gone. All alone and abandoned. Never saw the prison cell. Until my Life expired and I woke up in Hell . Hey nanu. My cats to lazy to jump up under a cow and hitch a free meal even though we have them next door . BUT keeping it real here she loves Milk. A Cats mouth would not be to welcome on a cow's teet anyway . Can you imagine the sight of a cow tearing across a paddock with a cat locked on its teet ? I have enough problems with my cat padding my Nuts when she jumps on my lap with her sharp claws . Burmese cats have claws like needles . Anyway , we get our Beef from a local butcher who sources from local farmers . We are surrounded by dairy and beef farms here . Its good meat and I can tell the difference between the good stuff and imported . I dont touch the generic crap even though it may say Aussie on the label . Yes I know they export a lot of high grade stuff and people will pay because it is Better Quality . Thing is nanu that when you pay extra for organic you are getting far higher nutritional value and need to eat far less volume . I will treat myself to a steak maybe ten times a year max. Its a treat but that makes it taste even better. The local Coles here services high end money so they get the best quality for the same price as a Bogan in Minto ! There is no justice my friend. But there are choices and right now I choose to make a fresh ground organic coffee with organic milk and local stringybark Honey . Oh baby . So you know , we have to eat . We have to make choices that maybe we dont always like but as long as your in a body it needs feeding .Your car needs petrol .Your govt needs taxes . Your mother in law needs to make you feel like Crap . Its just the way things are . Bottom line is this > I don't like cruelty to animals any less than anyone else but unless we get away from emotive and polarizing name calling re food choices people who would listen are reluctant to embrace the changes that are taking place . A lot of extremists Like that guy durianrider on youtube love to preach but trees are omnivores . They need decomposing flesh , fungal interaction and loads of decomposing mulch to give you guys fruit . XXXX happens so you can happen . Life is feces ,urine, death and rebirth. nature cannibalizes nature to keep the circle rolling. Minno. That's what I said ,youz. LAMAO If your a Kiwi Living in Penriff its Pinruff. I worked in Minno for a while to help a mate out. Jeez, its a shocker of a place . More sleaze , depravity , Drugs and prostitution than a Termite mound full of cross dressing, coked up, Fire ants .From Minno of course. Nothing natural survives in Minno . Its the place where all that's good and true dies next to a Heroin addicts Needle and a handful of scratchies. Clint Eastwood considered doing 'a fist full of Scratchies' there at one stage. Then he went to straight to 'a few scratchies more' . Never got released though. That's what a bloke in Minno told me anyway and those guys never Bullsh*t mate Eh ? Minno is the kind of place where school girls will offer old men a blow job in return for a packet of cig's at the train station. Its tragic really . If Ridley Scott had known about Minno he would have done all his location shooting for Blade Runner there and saved a butt load on extra's . I used to go to the CBD for lunch just to drink it all in . The color ,the culture , the foxey ladies . Ah Minno , you sweet saucy old bucket full of westy life . I have a very simple answer to your input Brook. If your worried about human Impact the answer is simple. Reduce the number of humans. But the Catholic church wont be to happy about loosing its income stream from its huge customer base in south America now we have a Pope from there . The CIA wont be to happy either or corporate JEWmerica . They are the ones bleeding South America dry and raping the forests . There is a good reason why we decided to have only one child , not three or five or ten . If you have a problem with deforestation ,as do I , put the blame on the Catholic Churches Absurd banning of contraception and the resulting pressure for more food. You want the answer to that problem , its Religion. Judeo Christian religion .The ultimate raper of earths resources . Before your ancestors came along , the prairie was teeming with Buffalo and the Native Americans only took what they needed to live . Then your white ancestors came with their colt 45's and lever actions and destroyed it all for manifest destiny and Jesus and Jehovah. Jesus Saves .Like hell he does . End world Hunger ! Great, lets all just chow down on Parrot feed and sing pretty polly wants a cracker till the cows come home. Now on the subject of Grains versus Meat . Before corporate farming came along , most every farm in Europe was a mixed farm where communities shared the burden of raising cattle , grain ,fruit ,vegetables in a wholistic sustainable system. Until Jewish bankers forced them in to mono culture farming practices and destroyed all that wonderful sustainable balanced farming practice. Once you no longer fertilize your grain fields with animal manure ,you have to use artificial fertlisers . Once you break up the natural cycles that support ALL LIFE you get sameness. Mono culture causes imbalance which leads to disease . Because Nature's checks and balances have been removed in the name of greed. Yes , I know all about that stuff . More than your one sided, skewed distortions of the facts . So if you want just grains you had better be sure you have a way to fertilize them without using petro chemicals . How are you going to do that? Its amazing how easily the facts can be distorted when you leave out the variables and down stream pay back on Husbandry .
    In Australia they invented or rather rediscovered something called Permaculture . A homestead where chickens provide manure along with goats or whatever . So that's what I am doing on our humble property . Creating a sustainable micro culture . No Church B**lsh*t on our homestead. Just a healthy relationship with Mother Earth. How much of your own food do you Grow Brook ? What your statistics fail to point out is that while Stock need high input they give back in other less obvious ways as long as you dont mess up the diversity . But if you want to just eat beans and grains and feed a massively over populated planet then by all means pitch for corporate farming because that's what your really doing. Battery Hens never get to forage for the worms and insects they love . They just get fed toxic grain feed. Maybe you want to join them ? Meat is a luxury and we dont buy any more than we feel the need for . If we invite someone over for dinner and they say no meat that's fine , we can easily accommodate that . I am trying to steer my family more towards fish actually and making progress but my daughter is a meat fiend, she just loves it. I know why ,its genetic, but meat is expensive so to steer her away from eating to much I have to do Pizza quite a lot . So guess what her favourite Pizza is ? Marguerite with cheese . She loves cheese . Back in the day before middle eastern religious madness infested Europe , people lived close to nature , worshiped Mother earth , not Jehovah, and lived sustainable lives close to nature .Fruits ,grains, nuts, wild game and milk from domesticated goats, cows. Then came the Royals ,all claiming direct lineal descent from Jesus (yeah right ) and stealing the land from the people 'in gods name' of course. Divine right to rule, land enclosures ,theft of common land and forests . Thanks Jesus , we have been in debt for your fake crucifixion ever since. Its really just the Moses story (another fake legend) recycled. And Abraham too , the guy who likes sleeping with his own daughters . Hey , its a royal tradition already. First Europe , now the world bends to the knee of this rabid Rabbi cult of celestial celebrity. What an absolute crock. All religions impose silly restrictions on food .Kosher ! What a rip off that racket is . But if you control what people eat you control their lives. All religious enslaver's know this . No two people like exactly the same kind of food ,even within the same family . Accept it ,tolerate it. Dont dictate to people what they can and cannot eat . Who the hell do you think you are when you do that ? God almighty ? Pretty much. When wild predators hunt its usually very quick . But there is a subtext to the chase and that is that it is also sexual . For every life taken , new life is nurtured . The falcon feeds a rabbit to its young and the circle of life goes on . Rabbits are hardly an endangered species and they Breed like Catholics. Well okay they dont breed that fast but a close second. Falcons keep vermin in check , Vermin keep cockroaches in check, cockroaches keep rotting scraps from breeding disease. If you mess with natures system you end up with chronic diseases like cancer etc. How can you condemn drinking cows milk ,then embrace coconut milk ? Whats the difference ? Seeds are made for growing baby plants yet you have no trouble depriving them of the chance to grow, Grain Killer ! How can you say its wrong to eat dairy because it was designed only for cow babies , then eat plants ? If we pursue that logic to its finality we should only be eating each other . All life feeds on other life in some way shape or form . If you cant accept that ,go eat rocks. Actually there are plants that do just that , why not pull up a chair and chow down . But I dont think omnivorous teeth are quite evolved to work on that stuff. Sorry Mudra ,I am not sure I fully addressed your input though I think you made many excellent points. Its raining cats and dogs outside which is great for my fruit and nut Trees but is ruining my building schedule. There are so many different balances of diet that are good for you I think. I love Spinach for example so we make spinach curry a lot . But its got a lot of Oxalic acid so I have noticed if I eat it to often my Urine starts to get that distinct smell that indicates damage to Kidneys/Liver. Its strong stuff Oxalic acid. So the best way to neutralize it is with an alkaline calcium fat buffer . Dairy Cheese and yoghurt . Palak Paneer is Spinach curry with home made cheese . Paneer is easy to make . Jug of milk,warm it up ,then add the juice of a lemon to make it curdle. Rinse it through cheese cloth to separate the curds from the whey and bingo . Cheese in half and hour . Indian spices are so good for you . Tumeric ,ginger ,cumin, all that good stuff. But yes I also like to pick raw and eat raw . You get an instant rush of energy and feel good from raw food . And its concentrated goodness , not bulging store bought fake fruit that's Pretty to look at . Store bought oranges are terrible . Pulpy tasteless rubbish. Food freedom is direct connection to the source because it is the source . I thank my Orange tree every time I pee underneath her . She healed my eyesight big time last year . My Lemon tree gives us fruit all year round . Bulk Vitamin C is precious stuff . No way you get that quality from supplements or store bought fruit. The other thing I think is so true is that variety really is the spice of life.Your body needs change as much as you do. You cant feed it the same menu for weeks on end. It gets bored and craves something different. Everyone should grow at least a percentage of their own food or be part of a community garden . When you have time and experience invested in real food it transforms your relationships and understanding of it. Starve the body of balance and you starve the mind . I caught a vegan friend eating a burger and chips on a date once ! you could see she was loving it. Sure she said , i know its not good for me but right now I am enjoying it. So I think,well okay , whats wrong with breaking the mold now and then? It should be law for local govt to provide a minimum amount of land for common gardens, Land to plant fruit and nut tree's , land to raise and keep chickens. Kids Love spending time with animals. My daughter adores her chickens and hugs them . They love the attention once they get used to it. Its time to make time while there still is time ,to heal this planet with healthy food. Good food can pull people out of the severest depression with just one meal. Its the junk food that makes them depressed. Sharing a healthy meal just brings so much joy to people's faces . Nature is happy to share her bounty with us if we respect her and not rape her . Nobody who has gone organic and tasted real food for the first time ever wants to go back to factory farm crap. Organic is High octane super food, not empty calories gift wrapped in plastic. Really all I am trying to say is , whatever your food preference is fine by me but if we start trying to claim moral superiority via our Diet ,its a slippery slope to division and resentment . People say pigs are dirty and roll in mud so you should not eat their meat. Rubbish. Mud is an amazing body detox . Its draws out anything bad and makes a great sun block for pigs in summer so they dont get sunburn. Yes they do eat feces but so what . Keeps their immune system strong. Pig manure is one of the best manures you can get for organic gardening too. Im thinking of getting a small black one in the future . My daughter used to love getting covered in mud and running around naked in the grass. Its so good for kids to do that. But dont let the church goers know you walk around naked in the garden in the morning . To late for me . I do it all the time and I dont give a damn who sees it either. Sunday Best ? I was born wearing it , whats your problem ? You go church to worship BDSM on a cross and you say I am sick for enjoying my bare feet on cool grass ? ! WTF. Soil health is the sum of ALL life from the bottom of the food chain to the' top' . Its all related. Your body is an assemblage of micro organisms ! Biological Lego Bricks. That untouched virgin soil does not happen overnight , it is the product of MANY inputs . Its the life you cant see with the naked eye that is most important though. Healthy soil needs Iodine ,for example. But that comes from the sea in the form of Rain via methyl iodide , a by product/waste gas produced by sea weed. Methyl Iodide seeds rain ! Rain forest Trees release Volatile oils to encourage rain fall. We live next to one. You can see it happening in the early morning when the trees make dew precipitate . That's just one example. Plants host and build relationships with billions of micro organisms in order to feed. They Harvest with their root and leaf systems just like farmers do. They shelter and nurture flesh eating microbes to secure manure or whatever you choose to call it. Soil health comes from decomposing organic matter as well as minerals. But sooner or later you are going to have to accept that flesh eats flesh. Life eats life . Leaves are solar panels ,roots are in many ways like fibre optic cable. The Sun is a power source . This is a massive subject .Much like a rain forest . A vast complex interactive environment . If you guys want to go Vegan on Moral as well as personal choice grounds you are setting yourselves up for an argument that judges the natural world and tries to redefine it . JUST LIKE JEHOVAH DOES. Some vegans just seem to be on a self righteous moral crusade that abandons reason and common sense. Jehovah is at war with mother nature .Just look around you if you dont believe me. "the earth is the lords and all that dwells there in" No Jehovah .The MOTHER Earth is the people's and you are a parasite . I mean seriously . DO you really expect me to shoo away the flesh Eating Echidna's when they come to dig up termites ? Its their garden as much as mine . Termites eat tree's . But they too are part of the ecosystem here and they have a vital part to play in maintaining soil health. Deal with it. Do I have a problem with Black snakes hunting rats and mice under my house ? Hell no I dont. Help yourself. The whole system would collapse without these creatures . Re 'fertilizer' I think we are getting bogged down in semantics a bit. When a bird poops on my vegetable patch , that's fertilizer. When the worms are thick in the ground , they are fertilizing my soil by eating decomposing organic matter . If you want to get a very quick indicator of soil health ,just count the worms in a handful of soil. Tree leaves are mulch . Organic dust particles drifting through the air and settling in the grass are mulch. I dont look at my garden in isolation. I look at it as part of a much larger system . We live next to national park so we have many birds of many species passing through. Pooping ,singing, nesting and reproducing. They contribute to my gardens health too. Big time . Echidna's ,ants and termites aerate the soil so i dont have to dig it . Along with cicadas and trap door spiders . Nature rocks .Let her do her stuff and she will take care of your stuff too. I do use some blood and bone , one bag a year , just to fire up the compost heap a bit faster . Then maybe a bag or two of Chicken Poo. Cow poo I steal from the Paddocks next door on the odd occasion . The main source is composted veg/leaf/mulch/sawdust/chips and the piece de resistance , Sea weed from beaches nearby .Van loads of the stuff. OR I just dump the mulch and seaweed under the trees and on the beds and let the worms/microbiota do the hard work for me. Anyone who says they dont need inputs is telling porkies . Unless they happen to be planting deep rich soil . Many dont have that luxury so they have to build the soil up and that is not a crime for crying out loud. Its amazing how quickly the purists infiltrate and distort the important message in genuine movements. They end up discouraging wider acceptance because like religious fanatics they Always have to one up everyone around them .Boring. Truth is you do the best you can with the stuff you have and the local flora and fauna. You probably cant grow lemons in Canada unless you have a heated green house . You cant grow some European fruit tree's in Oz unless you get frost in winter . If your soil is just sand your going to have to introduce somehow , lots of organic matter to hold moisture and build fertility . Some plants do grow well in poor soil though . Maybe not the ones that will provide food though. This one size fits all Dogma stuff just does not help. Sorry, but in the real world you dont get ideal conditions very often. Inputs have to be scaled for the results you are trying to obtain . In the old days fields were rotated between grazing ,cropping ,fallow and root cropping to avoid disease , put fertility back in the soil and turn in the organic matter that was not harvested and used. I know this thread may appear to be drifting off topic but the thing is our environment largely determines our food choices . I mean if a Vegan wandered in to an Eskimo Community and asked if they were eating meat , killing animals for food and using their skins , the Eskimo would be like "are you taking the Piss Lady ?" Talk about an entrapping question . In any extreme northern climes your going to struggle if you cant eat meat . Its not impossible but its not going to be easy either . Now I seem to be getting type cast potentially as a big stock proponent but no , I am not saying that at all. Far better for most communities to have a diverse range of smaller animals to help keep the soil cycling in a healthy way. Ducks, Geese, chickens ,Pigs, goats, Rabbits . And then the wild component encouraged to share the bounty . I dont net my trees . I take my fair share along with fruit bats ,parrots, and any other bird that needs a snack. In return they take care of the bugs and poop for payment . Birds really appreciate being welcome to a share . Now they say hello when they fly by . Nice. Think I am Joking ? That's because you don't coexist with nature. I watch the wild ducks that nest and breed next to our Pond , hang out and chat with our domestic chickens. They look out for each others young . Actually the whole Bird community looks out for the Ducklings when they hatch because they are far more vulnerable than most bird species until they can fly . That's what most people dont see . The mother and father ducks know they will be lucky to successfully raise more than two of the eight ducklings they hatch , but they dont seem to grieve . They just accept it is part of their Life . These wild Ducks poop all over our lawn every year as they eat our grass . We love to see them and their poop is most welcome . Thank you for your kind words Mudra . You know I did a very rough calculation of my food input to get a fix on where I personally am at in terms of consumption which would make me about 30% fruitarian , 20-25% Vegan, 35% vegetarian and 10% Carnivore ! It shifts a bit of course depending on the time of year . My Daughter shockingly is way to high on the meat scale but I cant force feed her what she wont eat . My wife only needs a very little meat and could easily go without . My appetite for meat is reducing as I age but I could not cut it out completely at this stage without struggling . My DNA profile is way to hunter gatherer to manage without it . What does give me hope is watching the huge rise in organic food consumption here . Lots of dairy farmers are making the switch and that's good for everyone even if you cant eat dairy . Even with the economy being as bad as it is ,people are prepared to pay more for quality food because they see the better value in it . We cant afford health insurance but healthy diet is the best health insurance in my opinion . Everyone I know has diet issues but then we are our diet so how can you not ? I have had huge arguments with my daughter because she refuses to eat more veg , yet its my wife, who eats less meat , who insists that I let her eat what she wants ! I have watched my daughter eat a whole leg of roast lamb sometimes! Must be when she is getting a growing spurt but that's a lot of meat . The more I learn ,the more I have to accept that there are so many ways to eat healthy , but fresh home grown has radically improved My health and reduced my need for meat , so in relative terms I can actually say I am evolving slowly away from meat by improving the quality of the rest of my diet. So yes , I do actually think Vegan/vegetarian has a great deal of Merit as long as its a process that is non judgmental . Its all so relative but if more people see the value in sharing and community growing of food there is hope for the future . Because if we dont get away from factory food and factory farming of people then we wont have a planet left. I guess the other thing that colors my opinion is the number of anorexics/Bulimics I have known over the years ,who punish their bodies and minds with extreme dietary habits. I had an anorexic GF who lived on dried fruit/nuts and lettuce leaves , god love her . Usual story , history of sexual abuse ,so her diet gave her a sense of control over her life . Visually she was stunningly beautiful but in a Bikini I did not have the heart to tell her she looked half starved to death. At times like that I just wanted to stick a large steak dinner in front of her and say "for gods Sake Wibs , eat it !" Her reply. "Im already fat" . Thing I notice most .Poor quality food is addictive . High quality food just hits the spot and makes you feel great without consuming excessive amounts. My meat cravings go up when I do a lot of heavy work or exercise .I have tried substituting other protiens but my concentration and eyesight suffer . I cant do my work safely without those two. Cool .Very Cool. Seen the invisibility cloak you tube yet ? I like the indoor aqua/hydroponic fish tank . I want to do a large scale outdoor version of that . Of course they neglect to tell you that you need to feed the fish to make it work but that's okay. A lot of these technologies become even more amazing when you start combining them . Solar power collecting paper/graphene capacitor/battery plane for Eg. Unlimited flight duration. Got any more ? I Did get around to checking out Jane Goodall's Message today . Pretty much agree with her one hundred percent . My aunt worked with her occasionally and was involved in rescuing chimps from experimental labs with another lady back in the UK . Cant remember her name now. I will never forget watching a wildlife documentary where they filmed wild chimps in Africa hunting down, killing and eating smaller Monkeys to eat .It shocked me actually a lot but should we really be surprised ? Watched that film supersize me again today . Brilliant expose of the junk food industry . Real time thorough documentation of how quickly junk food can destroy your health. If herbivores went unchecked in Africa by Carnivores, the Savannah would quickly be reduced to overgrazed desert . If rats go unchecked they can start plagues . If locusts go on a feeding frenzy for lack of control by flesh eating insects such as the praying Mantis , the vegans go hungry. If humans continue to argue over who is the most right and who is the most wrong ,they will all die in the same barrel of monkey's. Sooner or later though the limits of every diet choice are found. Peak predators get trampled to death by Elephants . Giraffes can mortally wound a Lion with one well placed Kick . The only certainty in the natural world is uncertainty and eventual death . No matter what species you are , you have a common heritage with every species . You will live , you will die. You will come back . Suckling on a teat soon enough and taking your first baby steps again . Growing up in that life or remaining a child is a choice. But regardless of your diet choice , your white Blood cells will be feasting on Bacteria today to keep you alive . Thank 'god' some creatures are not squeamish and self righteous. Fear of Death haunts the urban pet Human like a Plague . They fear death so much they never really live. So they run back to their cages where big brother can take care of them. Today , I walked out in to the natural world to pee under my lemon tree and watch our chickens scratch around for Bugs to eat under the Nut tree's . I watched my 'Evil predatory Carnivorous Cat' Sunbathe on the Veranda. I saw the Kookaburra hunt skinks. A reptilian Bird hunting and eating Lizards from a fence post. That is just Sick. Not. Its Life . Life. Its a good job some Vegans dont get to see Nature in the raw . Butcher Birds smashing snakes against rocks and impaling them on thorns. Shocking , absolutely shocking. Tree's poisoning other saplings with death dealing enzymes in their fallen leaves . Its a jungle out there Missy ! Vegans jumping in to four wheel drive vehicles and riding rough shod over and through a thousand tiny insects. Its slaughter I tell you , sheer bloody slaughter. But in the face of infinity , not such a terrible thing really. I got used to being Killed some time ago . Its really not such a big deal and a great excuse to start over in a hot young body. Conservation of energy clearly states that Energy can neither be created or destroyed. Only transformed. The Chase IS better than the catch. And life is a gift to be lived at full throttle, not kept unopened in a Bottle. If you have never lived you have never really loved. Hate is an excuse for wimps. People Say " I hate My life !" Mother natures reply would be "Live it before you diss it"
    Carol wrote:
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    http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2022/06/21/june-21-2022-a-midway-point-in-the-end-days-solstice-energies/


    Jupiter Ascending is the greatest “Disclosure” film ever made, for Starseeds and Lightworkers and other people who want to truly understand our existence here on Earth.

    For awake people, it’s the highest level movie ever made, because it reveals everything, including the ET agenda, artificial life forms, and how easily they can erase and block memories from the Human mind. But more so, contracts, and how ancient contracts are used outside of Earth, and on other planets.

    Also, see: “The Adjustment Bureau,” with Matt Damon and Emily Blunt.

    Watch these 2 movies immediately, and watch them multiple times. Look at all the clues. Listen to every single word. They reveal so much. These movies can completely change your understanding of reality, because they are real films, written as fiction..

    The concepts may be slightly inaccurate, but they are 80% accurate, And that’s huge. Similar to the revolutionary first “Matrix” film.  Link to Telegram.

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    There are plenty of questions now about a lot of things. Some might ask, well if this is a starship, where are the stars? I would say, “We are, my beauties; we are.” We are the best and the brightest and volunteered for this most difficult mission where many failed. We’re bringing up the rear; the tail end of this monumental saga.

    Yes, we are still here, making the extraordinary, exclusive journey of souls. We will go on to tell our stories; astounding our audiences with our wisdom, humor, and valor. I believe the real warriors, however, are those battling in the hidden realms with horrific demons; dark environs most of us can’t even imagine. Whether in tunnels deep within the Earth or the astral and beyond, it’s an ugly fight.


    We have learned so much and are not the same sparks who first embarked on this near impossible operation to free Humanity from bondage and certain genetic annihilation.


    As the markers come and go, we are ticking down the seconds to the most historic events in Humanity’s history. If the architects of this grand rescue didn’t believe we were up to it, we wouldn’t be here. We are the ones. The chosen ones, if you will, as Trump stated he is.

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    There is so much we yearn to know. We are still wondering how a “millennium falcon” came to rest on the floor of the ocean, as shown by a team of researchers. Try as they might, the control freaks cannot detract from the other-worldly nature of the Baltic Sea Anomaly. To suggest it is a naturally-occurring relic from the ice age is pure folly. Compare the images.

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    I have questions of my own. We understand that we are “watching a movie”, according to the Q team. Others have also told us that after we are plucked from our meat suits and are being reconstituted and upgraded in the light chambers, we will be brought up to speed on all that has happened as we watch a movie-like training sequence.

    My question is, which movie are we watching now?—because we know that time is much different “in here” in this artificial construct and what seems like a lifetime to us is probably a few hours on the other side.

    So while it seems like we are living a nightmarish existence, laboriously going through an endless process of education and awakening… waiting, waiting, interminably waiting… what is it like outside? What if we will shortly wake up in our new world outside the matrix? Crazy times, my friends. Crazy times in the battle between good and evil.


    Phil G has an update show slated for tonight at 7 EDT/4 Pacific. He indicated he had important information to impart, with another show on Thursday evening, followed by Saturday.


    That concludes today’s solstice post. Go forth; find and speak truth. Live long and prosper.  ~ BP

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    Woke up hung like a ton of bricks
    Don't know where the hell I am!
    Whos this naked next to me
    What did I do?!
    I gotta pee!
    Can't work or go to school today
    Can't remember if I do that anyways.
    Got some money
    Got no clue, the world's a mess!
    I hate my life!
    I hate my life!
    Hate my life!
    I hate my life!
    Crashed the car
    Lost the job I'm dirty, smelly, a total slob
    Lot's of sex
    Little love stimulation, no satisfaction.
    Life is hard
    Life is stress
    Life is such a pain in the ass
    Saturday night, I'm not dressed how can I go on?!
    I hate my life!
    I hate my life!
    Hate my life!
    I hate my life!
    Woke up hung like a ton of bricks
    Don't know where the hell I am!
    Whos this naked next to me
    What did I do?!
    I gotta pee!
    Can't work or go to school today
    Can't remember if I do that anyways.
    Got some money
    Got no clue, the world's a mess!
    I hate my life!
    I hate my life!
    Hate my life!
    I hate my life!
    Your life's so bad
    Theyre gonna take it take it all away
    Your life's so bad
    Theyre gonna take it take it all away
    Complain! Complain! Life sucks anyway!
    It it's all so hard let them take it all away.
    Why the competition?
    Why stress to death?
    Be happy with what you have!
    Most have so much less
    I hope some day we realize how good it really is.
    Yeah, I may hate my life at times but I always try to live!
    Complain! Complain! Life sucks anyway!
    It it's all so hard let them take it all away.
    Why the competition?
    Why stress to death?
    Be happy with what you have!
    Most have so much less
    I hope some day we realize how good it really is.
    Yeah, I may hate my life at times but I always try to live!

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    blue roller wrote:You are far to hard on yourself because others are to hard on you . Its the price of free thought on this planet though.

    There has always been and always will be a lot of good stuff in the Doctor Who Series . I don't have time (excuse pun ) to follow it with the devotion you probably do , but I do enjoy it when I catch up with it.

    Ben Affleck is one of our boys . Matt and Ben go back a long way and always work together . Just dont tell anyone they are repeat offenders using the same bodies because ,well you know , not everybody approves.

    Physical resemblance is a funny thing because depending on which soul animates the body , its features can change radically . That's why your not allowed to smile when you have ID pics taken anymore . You can fool Facial recognition tech with an authentic smile completely. That's why they Demand a 'Neutral' expression . SO every body has to remain neutral now !

    Smile for the camera . Say Cheese ! Free rats love cheese.

    Oh , and by the way , your right ,that's not Ben in the angels picture but it is a close relative . I don't like to repeat myself though.
     Cool
    blue roller wrote:Oh and yes I have picked up on the resemblance and the relatedness of the blue box/boy/girl/androgyne meme.

    But coming from a solar system with a big blue sun I am ahead of the game there.

    Cheers.

    Time is relative and we are all related .
    Thank-you blue roller. A Catholic-Priest once told me I was too-hard on myself (and that's saying something)!! It's sort of like when the Pope called Evolution a "Dogma"!! He should know one when he sees one!! I hate to repeat myself BUT here is an interesting study-list:

    1. Job through Daniel (NKJV).
    2. Patriarchs and Prophets. (EGW).
    3. Prophets and Kings (EGW).
    4. Daniel 8:14, the Day of Atonement, and the Investigative Judgment (Desmond Ford).
    5. Solomon: Pharaoh of Egypt (Ralph Ellis).

    I try to provide a "context" and a "feel" to help Sirius-Researchers. This stuff is really out of my reach. I simply do NOT have the resources -- and I'm honestly a "shell of a guy". It's too-late for me. I know the Vatican knows -- but they're not talking!! Why am I NOT surprised??

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    "Do You Know the Way to San Jose??"

    Please remember that my threads are an experiment, which does NOT reflect who I am in "Real-Life". I plan to analyze my threads in the coming months and years -- hopefully without adding to them. I've needed to STOP for several years -- and I keep trying to cease and desist. I might write a couple of watered-down devotional-books -- but that might not even happen. Expect little or nothing from me. I think my work might be over before it ever begins. Perhaps I have simply prepared my soul for my next-life (as crazy as THAT sounds). Notice that in the second-season of Helix, the first episode features a gruesome and deadly biological-disaster onboard a sailboat, named The Mist of Avalon!! The plot centers around a strange isolationist-group led by Brother Michael -- on the island of St. Germaine!! Don't these names sound familiar?? Is this merely coincidental?? Think long and hard about the Ilaria Corporation -- Dr. Hatake -- Mr. Edgars (in Babylon 5) --  Dr. Ishii (in WWII) -- and the Medical-Military-Money Complex. That's All I'm Going to Say About THAT!!
    blue roller wrote:Sirius is a phonetic anagram of Rhesus but you wont make a monkey out of me because I will Brook no intervention by dogmatic Vegans . Unless they are from Vega . THOSE Chicks know how to party.

    There is the semblance of truth and there is the substance of truth. Humans here are easily fooled by the former and rarely listen to the latter.

    They eat the Lie and reject the Pie .

    But if you want some genuine Hot cherry without looking in the fridge , its time to drop the Catholic guilt and get some in my friend .

    If your feeling guilty about making love your doing it wrong .I don't let dogma get in the way of keeping it real and letting myself feel ,and neither should you .

    A common though not infallible marker for Rhesus Negative humans is a widows peak . Catholic church had been hunting us down for centuries . Now the hunter has become the hunted and the Pope does not have a Hope ,except in Hell. Its where they feel most at home.

    Let them have their cake . Start baking your own .

    Dessert Rats or Desert Plater , either way you cant beat a sweet pudding after a hearty meal.

    Im afraid I am not to hot on Biblical stuff Orthy . My wife cant stand that SH** and I dont care much for it either. Gives me indigestion. And that's without swallowing it.
    Toast  Cool
    Thank-you blue roller. Are you from Sirius?? Am I from Sirius?? Siriusly!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius I'm attempting to solve the Bible-Problem, the Religion-Problem, and the Government-Problem. The Bible has been a standard (though often not an optimal one) for thousands of years. Much Religion has been Bible-Based. Even Government often claims Biblical-Authority and Divine-Rights. Consider the Monarchical-Episcopate. I am working under the assumption that the Bible must be properly understood and handled -- as sort of an "Open-Sesame" to bigger and better things (such as "Clean-Sheets of Stone"). Establishing proper and sustainable standards of Ethics, Law, Liturgy, Business, Governance, and Law-Enforcement is really a nightmare (to me anyway). I'm trying to live within my United States of the Solar System threads -- but this isn't going so well. My nervous-breakdown keeps breaking-down more and more, as I dig (my grave) deeper and deeper. I honestly think I might end-up in some sort of a nuthouse before I kick the bucket. I keep trying to imagine and model a City-State Based United States of the Solar System -- in a twenty-second century context. Again, this project isn't going so well. I'm honestly thinking in terms of living in my very-own 600 square-foot Shallow Underground Civilian Base (probably in the mountains) -- with a kick@$$ computer (with an InterPlaNet connection) and an Absolute-Access Password!! BTW -- Vega Rocks!!



    Consider dividing (and conquering??) the Bible into the following groups (imagining what a stand-alone religion based upon each particular group might be like):

    1. Genesis through Deuteronomy.
    2. Joshua through Esther.
    3. Job through Song of Solomon.
    4. Isaiah through Daniel.
    5. Hosea through Malachi.
    6. Matthew through Acts.
    7. Romans through Jude.
    8. The Revelation of Jesus Christ.

    Ellen White jumps around. She didn't do the "Commentary-Thing" with Grammatical-Historical Hermeneutics. I'm looking for the best earliest commentaries on each of these groups. Continuity and Excellence in Politics and Religion are somewhat lacking. I'd still love to know what Religion and Governance were REALLY like, prior to the Garden of Eden. We seem to have purposely screwy Politics and Religion, presided-over by a Sun-God (Undod??) who doesn't seem to approve of Earth-Humanity (as we know it). Is the God of This World an Alien from Sirius?? The Prince of Sirius?? I suspect a Takeover in the Garden of Eden -- and I tend to doubt "The Greatest Story Ever Told" (even though I believe in some sort of a Historical-Christ). Did Eve overthrow Lilith?? I can barely endure thinking about the problems facing Humanity and Divinity. "Do you know the way to San Jose??" "What Does the Fox Say??" "Beam Me Up, Scotty!!"



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    Dream Weaver wrote:


    Russia Issues Grave Warning:
    “Prepare To Defend Earth, Fallen Angels Have Returned”

    This copied editorial resonates to my inner knowing, and why 'flight' is my cup of tea, to be humble and walk away and leave, no one lives to tell this tale of the coming events! You have to really wonder whats going on, a different story at every point of reference on this planet. I'm inclined to believe more with Russian reports. And what was said yesterday in Mothers own words, THE WHOLE PLANET IS LYING, JOHN. I've leaving and that is that, if not my form, my soul will leave a cesspit right in the making. So much for all the Galactic Pitch-Forks, my higher-self said. They are all phonies. Anything remote about ships have only come from Mother. She wants me RIGHT OFF THIS PLANET NOW.

    The bee string has energies, another sting and I'm gone, The dose of antihistamine I took was like a overdose! I had no time to measure in out as 5mls, it was a part shot glass and was sleepy for 24 hours! I felt the Fight & Fright with the Ego that requires a Adrenaline Burst, that would be fatal for me as I have no ego left in my body, so figure that one out. I don't scare off too easy. The ego is a Jehovah DNA Gene in every living being, Show the public fear and they will panic.


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    Put Up Your Mitts, as they say! I'm not being a coward in the face of danger. What is it with people who seek a death wish. We are all, mostly brain-dead!

    Because I'm new here, posting a link will not work, so this is a full copied report. As I have stated, Heaven is not on this world, this is Satan's Playground. Heaven is in a Parallel World, I was there today in a dream on a farm. I have dreams that show only the truth. I can go right through the matrix grid, but on my return to my form, the Matrix scrambles my recall energy looking like some tossed salad! It happened again today, its happening every day since I registered as DREAM WEAVER. The messages are so perfectly clear and they are meant for my reports right here! Anywhere else, all the trolls will come out of their bunker-burrows like blind rats. I'm talking about the harvest. One detail slipped my mind to telling you on my last INTRO post was messages from HG WELLS and War of the Worlds, with the remake version starring Tom Cruise. If this planet is up for grabs, and all electricity world wide is knocked out, its a harvest come for us all.

    This planet I'm sorry to say, is like a cat with Nine Lives (EVER-READY), this planet only has one left. So whats my name: The Schrödinger's Cat!

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    Schrödinger's cat is a thought experiment, usually described as a paradox, devised by Austrian physicist Erwin Schrödinger in 1935. It illustrates what he saw as the problem of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics applied to everyday objects. The thought experiment presents a cat that might be alive or dead, depending on an earlier random event.

    Then there is this movie trailer (below) match which I came across hours before this post: Reported on Veterans Today: US Sabotages Syrian Power Grid.



    The post... An extraordinary report prepared by the Military Scientific Committee of the Armed Forces (MSC) on the just completed trials of the Almaz-Antey high energy laser directed energy weapon system project by the 27th Central Research Institute (27-CRI) states that their “immediate dispersement” to Federation allies India, China and Brazil is needed to defend our planet against “inter-dimensional entities” who could soon attempt to recapture Earth.

    Important to note about this report are that the references to “inter-dimensional entities” contained in it date back to the Great Patriotic War (World War II) when then Soviet intelligence services confirmed the German Nazi regimes existing “communication link” with what can only be described as “fallen angels/demons”, but which our planets oldest written records refer to as the “gods”. These “fallen angels/demons”, this report explain, were once vanquished from our Earth about 5-6,000 years ago in what was then referred to by the ancients as “the great overturning” that nearly instantly froze millions of wooly mammoths of Siberia, destroyed the vast city-state known as Atlantis, and is recorded in the stories, religions and legends of all of our planets peoples as “the great flood”.

    Most importantly, however, to have been destroyed in “the great overturning”, this report continues, was the main geographical area inhabited on the Earth by these “fallen angels/demons” located from the Indian subcontinent, through the Himalayan mountain range to what is present day Ukraine, and whose human offspring were known as the Aryan race.

    The two major Sanskrit epics of ancient India, the Mahabharata and the Ramayana, this report explains, fully details the interactions of these “fallen angels/demons” with the Aryan race including the use of their Vimana air/space vehicle described as “an apparatus which can go by its own force, from one place to place or globe to globe”.

    Verifying this incredible ancient claim of the power of the Vimana to not only transverse our own planet, but those of others too, this report says, can be found in the symbol of these “fallen angels/demons” called the Swastika being discovered all over Earth, including prior to World War II when the soldiers of the United States 45th Infantry Division proudly wore this symbol prior to rise of Nazi Germany.

    In fact, this report notes, the earliest known object with Swastika-motifs is a bird from the tusk of a mammoth from the Paleolithic settlement of Mezine, Ukraine dated to 10,000 BC, and its ancient use has also been discovered in the Mississippian-era sites in the Ohio and Mississippi River valleys, the Hopi and Navajo Indians of North America and among the Celts, ancient Germans, Finns…and too many other worldwide cultures to mention in just one article. To our human race reconnecting with these “fallen angels/demons”, this report says, appears to have occurred in the 16th Century when a brilliant new star appeared on the sky in early November 1572, and which we now know to have been Tycho’s Supernova occurring in the constellation Cassiopeia and which was one of about eight supernovae visible to the naked eye in historical records.

    More critical to note about the Tycho Supernova, MSC experts in this report state, is that it also appeared to cause an “inter-dimensional rift” allowing humans to once again communicate with the “fallen angels/demons” who had previously been expelled from our planet, the most important of whom was the personal astrologer-sorcerer to England’s Queen Elizabeth I, John Dee.

    From the historical records from the 16th Century about Dee and his assistants contact with these “fallen angels/demons” we can further read:

      “Dee would perform ritual invocations of the angels, and Kelley would stare into a scrying mirror or crystal ball, wherein a series of angels appeared, transmitting prophecies, instructions and furious pronouncements on the spiritual nature of mankind.

       The angels were not charitable. Raging at the fallen state of humanity, who have only become progressively worse since being sent East of Eden, they consistently liken humans to “harlots”—not in the sexual sense, but in the sense that they weakly allow their attentions to be captivated by literally anything except God.

       Over years of Actions, the angels described the ordering of the cosmos; a series of instructions for ritual invocations; predictions of apocalypse and events to come in European politics; and, finally, the Angelic or “Enochian” language, which they explained was the ur-language of humanity, spoken before the Fall of Adam.

       For Dee, this was not magic, but religion—he supplicated himself to the angels totally. Kelley, though, was terrified of the spirits, considering them demons and constantly begging Dee to cease the sessions. Dee insisted on pushing ahead, overworking Kelley to exhaustion and keeping him virtually prisoner at Mortlake.

       The angels, for their part, detested Kelley, clocking immediately that he had previously engaged in demonic grimoire magic, and quickly became exasperated with both Dee and Kelley. Though Dee may have been the smartest member of the species, he was still perceived as an inconsequential gnat by the angelic hyper-intelligences—particularly when Dee and Kelley began begging them for money (Kelley even asked if the angels could loan him money!). But for all of Dee and Kelley’s embarrassing lack of evolution, they would have to do, because the angels had a plan, and Dee and Kelley were on the hook.

       Put simply, the angels wanted nothing less than a New World Order, run by divine principles, and proposed what must be one of the most dangerous ideas in Western history: A world religion, based on love and unity—a supra-Christianity or Terminal Monotheism which would not only reunite Catholicism and Protestantism but even Judaism and Islam into a fused whole; all made possible, of course, by the technology the angels had provided for direct individual contact with the spiritual agents of God instead of relying on terrestrial authority or scripture.

       Combined with the foundation Dee had already laid for a temporal New World Order under Elizabeth, this new religion would unite the souls of the entire globe, fusing all humanity into one State, and one Church, all directed by the angels themselves—the New Jerusalem.

       So fervent were the angels that they commanded Dee and Kelley to present themselves to the court of Rudolf II, the Holy Roman Emperor, tell him he was possessed by demons, and command him to heed the angelic message. This was a death sentence—but Dee and Kelley, shockingly, made good on it. Rudolf ignored them, but the Papal nuncio did not, and plotted their destruction. The Church, it seems, took Dee and Kelley’s claims seriously—perhaps as a threat to their very existence. Humans talking to God without scriptural or institutional mediation was not on the menu.”


    To the evidence of the success of England under the direction/guidance of these “fallen angles/demons”, this report says, cannot be denied as it began the British Empire on which “the sun never set”, that is until the end of the 20th century when upon the death of Queen Victoria, in 1901, the German House of Hanover (of which Queen Victoria headed) disseminated their “occult knowledge” throughout all of the royal houses of Europe. What began then, this report grimly notes, was a century of wars “deliberately initiated and controlled” by these “fallen angels/demons” intent upon total destruction so as to establish their one world religion, the most destructive being World War II.

    Causing World War II to be so destructive, this report continues, was the German Nazis successful establishment of an inter-dimensional transport/communication device called Die Glocke (The Bell) allowing for the first time since 1561 a Vimana air/space craft to appear on Earth in 1937.

    The previous attempt of these “fallen angels/demons” to reintroduce their Vimana air/space crafts on Earth since “the great overturning”, this report notes, occurred on 14 April 1561 when John Dee traveled to Nuremberg, Germany and using the “occult mechanisms” he had been taught by these entities caused to erupt a furious sky battle witnessed by all of the residents of the city, and in which the “fallen angels/demons” were defeated.

    By 1937, though, this report says, an intact Vimana air/space craft was not only in the hands of the German Nazis, they were able to start duplicating it resulting in what are now referred to as the “foo fighters”, a term used by Allied aircraft pilots to describe various UFOs or mysterious aerial phenomena seen in the skies over both the European and Pacific theaters of operations.

    Even after World War II, MSC experts in this report say, the Nazi Germans remaining “foo fighters”, along with the Die Glocke “device”, were secreted to Antarctica where they remain today, and attested to by numerous high-ranking present and former Russian military officials.

    To how great of a danger our planet is in due to these “fallen angels/demons” reappearing with their Vimana air/space crafts, this report warns, is evidenced by the mysterious 9 December 2009 event called the “Norway Spiral” where a fantastical otherworldly spiral appeared in the night sky over both Norway and Sweden and which the ancients of people of our planet had all recorded was sign that always preceded the arrival of the “gods”.

    Equally as critical to note about the 2009 “Norway Spiral”, MSC experts state, is that within days of it occurring “dozens, if not more” mysterious crafts began erupting from deep beneath Siberia leaving massive craters and hurtling into space with one of them being tracked this week where it has taken up an orbit around our Sun.

    As President Putin this past August (2014) classified as a “Potential National Threat” any news/information relating to these mysterious crafts erupting from beneath Siberia, this report does note…however, it further states that what is now called the Chelyabinsk meteor event of 15 February 2013, that exploded with 20–30 times more energy than was released from the atomic bomb detonated at Hiroshima, was (based on orbital trajectory) in actuality an “apparent attack” against the Siberian region where these mysterious crafts are being launched from, and was “exactly like” the 30 June 1908 meteor attack upon this same region that is now called the Tunguska event.

    Also, and perhaps most disturbingly, this report concludes, US-EU attempts to demonize President Putin and embroil Russia in war are, in fact, “an elaborate masquerade” designed so that these Western powers can overrun Siberia to destroy/dismantle what by all appearances seems to be an ancient defense system designed to protect our planet from these “fallen angel/demons” who are now in league with, if not outright controlling, nearly all of the Western nations on Earth.

    And finally, though not exactly referred to in this MSC report, Western scientists appear to be preparing their citizens for what is to come by publishing many scientific papers this past year proving that parallel worlds exist and interact with our world, a position, mind you, first stated by the renowned French scientist and UFO researcher Jacques Vallée, who decades ago warned that what are commonly called aliens from other worlds may, in fact, be fallen angels and demons.

    Conspire Planet
    blue roller wrote:For what its worth and you have to decide which way you pick , there are two main choices. The first choice , fear and enslavement has no options ,just blind unquestioning obedience .

    There is a lot of that here and in order to maintain the fear level and thus control there is always the next Armageddon they are prophesying ,right ?

    Its a game . You get to fear the reaper , they get to reap. You reap what you sow. Its a closed loop .

    I recommend the second option which has so many choices that you cant fathom them . That choice is freedom. Freedom from Fear and its enforcer ,Religion.

    Free Souls don't carry Bibles and self help books full of though shalt/must do this to find happiness ! BS.

    Freedom is the lack of rules and regulations. Religion means regulation. Freedom and love go hand in hand. Hate and fear tear each other apart.

    Love cooperates. Hate annihilates .

    Its that simple. So when some guy starts posting doom and gloom without choice , ignore them.

    You have always had choice but you have to choose .Dont surrender your choice unless you want to become a slave to a 'GOD'.

    Dream weavers are viral mind hackers . This planet is controlled by a dream weaver . It looks like a spiders web because its is a spiders web . The Beast is a dream weaver . It hacks your soul and takes control. Reject it .

    Your soul is boundless because it was created at the beginning .So really you are not any species or race of whatever . The essence of you is timeless ,boundless.

    But adventurous souls incarnate for kicks and that's where the party's at. Why create a physical universe and not dive in ? The Waters Fine.
    blue roller wrote:Don't try to solve a problem that cant be fixed . That's the Bible trap . Its designed to be irreconcilable so that in trying comprehend it your mind is caught in the paradox and shuts down to avoid break down.

    Walk away from the problem and it no longer owns you.

    There are no answers in the Bible .Its just corrupted code that disables free thought. Its a Bowl of Sh** masquerading as fruit salad.

    When you overheat an Engine on a dessert Highway , do you try to fix it by pouring more water in the radiator ? Trust me. Once you have blown the head gasket , its F*****d.

    Hitch a Ride to the nearest Town and get a new set of wheels.
     
    Thank-you blue roller. I remember a story about Jim Jones throwing his Bible to the ground, and telling his followers to forget about the Bible, and listen to HIM!! I might lack refinement and enlightenment BUT I support the RIGHT kinds of Government, Religion, Law, and Law-Enforcement BUT I'm NOT Sure how to achieve a Utopian-Version of All of the Above. I do NOT endorse Anarchy and Rule by Sinister and Exploiting SECRECY. There's always a KING RAT lurking in the Shadows of Purgatory Incorporated. I'm committed to agonizing over what I've already posted (including all links and lists). I guess this is my Private Hell. We all have our crosses to bear, don't we?? I've tended to rely more upon the word RESPONSIBILITY -- rather than Love and Freedom. I've tended to support Dr. Robert H. Schuller's concept of Possibility-Thinking -- rather than Positive-Thinking and Self-Esteem. These seem like minor-matters -- but the long-term implications and ramifications are HUGE and Potentially-Devastating. Having said all that -- consider the following:

    1. Religion: Pay to be Told What to Do!!
    2. Government: Pay to be Told What to Do!!
    3. Work: Get Paid to Do As You're Told!!
    4. The United States of the Solar System: Get Paid to Do As You Choose!!

    I obviously don't have this all worked-out BUT the idea is to Financially-Reward "Good" Behavior -- and to Financially-Penalize "Bad' Behavior -- through a well thought-out reasonable and rational System of Rewards and Punishments. That's the Theory. My target-date for the implementation of a highly-refined version of my "Bright-Ideas" is 2133 A.D. (plus or minus a decade or two). Hope Springs Eternal.

    Carol wrote:I suspect others are planning for the EVENT. lol!

    The Truth Call from Friday Night with Fisher (RV intel about minute 35)
    https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback/?n=DeFL7/jnBQq

    Some notes:

    Fisher on the Real Truth Call Thursday Night:
    https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback/?n=DeFL7%2FjnyH8   Fisher is a highly connected individual, says he has a Majestic security clearance (ET and space issues).  He has been gone for many months, but returned 2 days ago, and has given long Q&A sessions. Here is the one from Thursday night, beginning at 75 minutes in:

    Letters from the US Treasury went out to a special list, telling the recipients that their currency was ready to exchange.  [remember the guys in Mexico and Canada who got such letters about crossing the border?]

    81min:  IRS will go away, agents will go to work at the UST refunding your tax returns.
    Seniors will get 2500 per person to the seniors.

    134:  Shortages in US are beginning because corporate government is not working with the rest of the world.  Longshoremen are idle.  But there are warehouses full of supplies when the government allows the exchanges to go thru, if we need them.

    Fisher: Bankers will now create a common law trust for you, to receive your currency exchange funds.  Strawman (birth certificate) trust will be issued to Social Security recipients, and will be 25M dollars.  IRS will work to refund federal and state income taxes.  In 2 years, there will no longer be a need for money.

    Cashless society program now is promulgated by the galactics and the white knights.  Was favored for control by the PTB, but they are no longer around. Most have been snatched up, more will be.  Bank CEO levels are all on lists.  They are working on the lists.  I have seen 170 odd pages of names.

    Replicators, light chamber devices, tachyon units, Cobra was responsible for getting that tech released early.  Cars will use an excited dark matter device, and will fly.  Free energy device attached to your house. Upgraded water facilities all over the planet—what will you need money for?  All your needs will be met.  Combined ayurvedic and standard Western  medical practice.

    St Germain is real.  Sheldon Nidle was a living man, now is an ascended master.  Will be returning.

    We do not have to worry about earth changes.  Earthquakes have been ameliorated and are being monitored, and energy pulled away.  Galactics monitor timelines, and can choose which we follow.  There will be galactic representatives monitoring most exchange centers.

    New notes will be different sizes, and ATM machines may need to be exchanged.

    Everyone will have a card, attached to an account.  It is not your account to use, except when you need the assets out of your regular routine life (visit to Las Vegas).

    Operation Northern Thunder is a military agreement among 60  countries that they will have peaceful coexistence, and not follow banker’s directives.

    Announcements are coming in the next month to shake everyone to their boots, and wake them up to what they are, March and April.

    152 min—summary of political changes.
    Congress has agreed on a 17% flat tax only on new items.  Dodd-Frank is going to be repealed, and Glass-Steagle renewed.  New currency will roll out in phases.  Phase has already started.

    Exchanges: Whales go first, then bank selected individuals, then Admirals group, then smaller groups, probably Gen64 group and internet people who keep track of what is going on.  Between now and the next 2-3 weeks.  Probably this week end.

    Chemicals in chemtrails are being pulled out now [by ETs?].  Plants will start growing better now.  Why not just stop all the chemtrails?  They are keeping up appearances.

    Big three changes are the agreement with the banks that the USD will be treated as a gold backed currency, repeal of Frank Dodd and reinstatement of Glass-Steagel act, and the coming 17% flat tax.
    I don’t think there will be an election, not the one you are planning.  Bank Bail-in section has been taken out.

    188: Light chambers.  Sheldon N said a year or so away.  Have a 3D and a 5D model.  The time frame you want to hear is 4-6 weeks.  Healing chamber is a lower generation model.  Canadian technology.  Light chambers will be tuned to an individual body/individual.

    Obama will probably not finish out his term.
    New administration is planning to take over in weeks.  Obama has already signed his resignation, according to an agreement with the White Dragon Society.  He will be moving to Dubai.

    American States will resume their individual sovereignty, without corporate Federal Government usurpation.  Corporate state governments will go away.  Or they are already gone.
    Those who did not get their currency that they paid for from Sterling will either get the currency or a refund.

    There is a difference between State of Alabama and Alabama State.  State of _____ is a corporation, and is going away.  Power will revert to the State.  Has already gone away.  Each state will become The Republic of, as in Republic of Texas.  As opposed to Texas State.

    It won’t matter, everyone is going to get a prosperity package. They have already been funded 3 weeks ago, and humanitarian packages funded as well. There are 78 private prosperity programs, where they had to invest.  Everybody gets the other prosperity packages, 18+ years of age.  Within days of RV. Will be released in stages, like homeless veterans first, etc.

    Zim value: screens showing .65 and RV flashing.  Reason is that Zimbabwe has lots of resources, and China is backing Zimbabwe.  The huge notes that people bought for cash in purposes, like 100T notes, are actually sovereign bonds of Zimbabwe government.  Each note will be exchangeable.  This was a move to fight the cabal that was set  up many years ago.

    Infrastructures all over the world will be rebuilt.  Eventually, all will live under the ground or the sea in transparent aluminum domes.

    Q: Who will be doing all the work?  A: Androids, built specifically to serve.
    Some people will want to work.  Especially the arts, you will want to contribute.
    AI programs already exist which will do the work.
    The currency was supposed to have been exchanged years ago.  We should have been ready for the new technologies, but it was all held up.  Earth is ascended, and has a schedule to keep.

    There is already a volunteer force which has committed to performing menial tasks.  Many of them are billionaires.

    Canada will follow the same plan as US.

    Banks really want these currencies.  They will fight for them.  IF one bank doesn’t want them, there is a bank next door which does.

    *****************************

    More Fisher from Last Night (sorry I cannot access it)

    You can listen to the WC (Real Truth) call Friday Night Replay with Fisher at

    605-562-3140, code: 143153#

    Fisher is interesting AS IS COBRA






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    blue roller wrote:Responsibility is a good word to use in theory . But before you have the ability to respond you have to have the freedom to do so without being in fear , right ?

    Response ability is two words that have been amalgamated in to one word. Unfortunately ,in doing so the words syntax has been shifted from the freedom to think and act on one's own initiative to if the crap hits the fan its your fault . In other words , the two words have been stigmatized just like the Bible is stigmatized by fear and retribution. The whole damned document is about fear and retribution isnt it ?

    So I have to say I cant buy in to Biblical prophecy because its power lies not in its accuracy but in its nebulous non committal ,could be this could be that nonsense ! Hot air may lift light weights but it wont carry a serious pay load.

    Its whatever you want it to be as long as you choose the 'right' church . Any Devil will do, make your choice.

    Natural law is very simple .Do no harm , respect the freedom of others to live freely  .

    The more you try to regulate 'sin' ,the more you create it. Regulations and laws suffocate freedom . When people are enslaved and cannot eat ,they will 'steal' to feed their children . Money monopoly is designed to suffocate direct trade and barter and impose taxes.

    Having a code of Honor is different . It is not enforced , it is a set of guidelines . Stray from common sense and you soon find out the limits.

    Good credit is based on trust. That you will honor your promise . But on this planet people put their trust in 'God' . No wonder its a struggle to make a living here .
    Thank-you blue roller. Consider Job through Isaiah -- combined with Romans through Jude -- as a kinder and gentler approach to Biblical-Studies. I have a love/hate relationship with God, the Bible, the Church, Ellen White, and more. The whole-thing is a goddamn-mess -- but I still think it's some sort of a puzzle which MUST be solved. The "Ancient Egyptian Deity" told me that I had been in favor of humanity -- and with considering the Bible from every conceivable angle (apparently going way, way back). He said, "We've been watching you for a long time". I've more recently been thinking in terms of Possibility-Thinking relative to Sacred-Scripture in the Context of Science and Science-Fiction. I've just been scratching the surface with "Responsibility" even though I told Dr. A. Graham Maxwell (around 1988) that The SDA Church is a Religion of Responsibility. The sad-reality is that I'm probably one of the most irresponsible wretches on the planet. "Oh Wretched Man That I Am!!" "The Good That I Would -- Oh Never Mind!!" How About "Righteousness by Responsibility!!"?? Or, "Responsible Possibility Thinking!!"?? I highly recommend reading the following linked-article on "Moral Responsibility". http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-responsibility/
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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for this thread, Vidya. I've spent some time on this topic, including books and videos by Douglas Vogt, but there's only so much I can digest and verify, so I've mostly moved on. Regarding 2046, there are some 87 year periods (fourscore and seven years) I find quite interesting (which coincide with 2046) but I won't comment on them at this point. Some of them are personal. I'm not sure what to make of this, but regarding the Torah (and the rest of the Bible) we're probably not dealing with a bunch of primitive-warriors and sheep-herders in the middle of the desert. We might not be dealing with God (or god) as we know this being to be commonly known. We might be dealing with Ancient-Technology, including Supercomputers, Robotics, Planetary-Propulsion. Weapons of Mass-Destruction, etc. This thing might be worse than we can imagine. Judeo-Christianity (as commonly known) might be a collection of Cover-Stories. Jesus said, "I have many things to tell you, but you can't bear them." In other words, "You Can't Handle the Truth." Unfortunately, we might be in the process of having the Truth crammed down our throats, regardless of whether anyone can handle the Truth or not. I continue my contextual-study but I have reached few-conclusions. What if HAL 9000 (for want of a better term) has run this solar system for millions of years (for better or worse)?? What Would David Bowman Say?? What Would Raven Say?? "@#$%^&*#$%^!!!!!"
    Vidya Moksha wrote:When Vogt claimed to have found the site moses used, I switched off a little. 2,000 year old structures are usual archaeology. And undisturbed all these millennia? Doubt it. Is the bible accurate? Doubt it. The torah? same. when were these documents written? and for what purpose? But global extinctions happen, and he could be correct in his cycle of 12,000 years. Ice ages happen. So where does the water come from to make ice? It wasnt a meteor or nuclear winter.. I believe Vogt is quite correct to look at the energy balance. It would take a lot of water vapour, which would require spectacular heat.. so his model works. Noah's ark.. did it have 2 of each species? of course not. Maybe the flood was slow, and predictable. or maybe they had prior warning?. Could previous civilizations have left coded clues? Possibly, but what about the 10,000 years before all modern religions? Such clues, left on high tech fabric /material.. or even on stone tablets? Have they been interpreted by someone? Maybe. Maybe history / fantasy called him Moses? Obviously a message from 'god' (who could just be someone from a previous civilization) .. There probably was a flood, probably the earth does cycle between ice ages and mass extinctions, possibly someone left clues about this in the past. I like Vogt's models but he takes the religious texts, darwinism, written history etc too literally.. Maybe he did find a code in the Torah?  
    orthodoxymoron wrote:In general terms, I'm suspecting cover-stories for cover-stories for cover-stories for thousands (or even millions) of years. Regarding Vogt's theory of a catastrophic solar-event in or around 2046, I'm wondering if there is an Ancient Artificial-Intelligence and Planetary-Propulsion System which might be Cyclical in Nature. Consider Isaac Newton's Prophetic-Wanderings which include the possibility of the World Ending as early as the mid to late 21st century. A very-intelligent Individual of Interest told me that All Religion was BS. But what if All Religion involves cover-stories for cover-stories for cover-stories, or conflicting-delusions, if you will?? Consider "Four-Score and Seven Years Ago." Consider 1958-59 and 2045-46 and 2132-33. Consider the Earth-Crust Displacement Theory of Charles Hapgood. Consider the movie 2012. The Quest for the Historical Rabbit-Hole might be more illusive and disillusioning than most of us can imagine. A lot of us should probably cease and desist before we go nuts and/or are made to shut-up. Sorry for being blunt, but I fear that God Got Me and/or the Matrix-Mediatrix Made Me Do It (or something to that effect). I keep heading for the exits with a lot of recapitulation along the way. I'm working on my old back-up car and things aren't going well, so I'm in a bit of a mood. My medical finance problems are resolving nicely but my core physical, mental, and spiritual difficulties are worsening exponentially (by accident and/or design, I know not). Researchers and Reformers Beware. We Might be Dealing with Men of God Who Deal with the Ancient-Matrix!! Who Knows?? The Shadow?? Consider Daniel 7-12 interpreted by Daniel 7-12 (but don't expect it to make you happy). What if the Sanctuary is Cleansed, Vindicated, and Restored to It's Rightful-State in a Cyclical-Manner involving Ancient Artificial-Intelligence and Planetary-Propulsion?? The Deep-State might be hinting at how $crewed we are. Consider Matthew 4 and 28 along with 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. I Can't Take Much More of This. I Need to Stop. They Have Ways to Make Us Stop. Many Ways. The Horror.
    blue roller wrote:Call him the Devil, satan ,Ra, Rama, Jehovah ,Yahweh , whatever name /alias he uses on a given text , the calling card gives him away and that calling card is complexity. Complex laws, dogma's , rules and regs , rituals and economic strictures.

    Less is more . Free people live in the moment. Slaves live in thirty year mortgages .

    Then you have all the phony hero's who try to look GOOD. Abe Lincoln was a Rothschild bastard and a total tool . Yet Americans 'Look up to him' as a father figure !  He was a blood thirsty son of a Bitch .

    You can always tell when you are dealing with Satan's puppets , you are made to Look up to, not at them. They are elevated to god like status. Its the programming.

    Humans are conditioned to worship and look up to money and moneyed people . They give away their power then worship the source of their enslavement. Fascinating concept but I dont buy in to it.

    Civilization does not exist on this planet. Laws exist to kill it.

    Elizabeth was a pawn of the Cecil's . Dee was her handler . Jewish Mysticism was the game being played at the English People's expense and Shakespeare tried to expose it. The real Shakespeare was Edward De Vere. Edward De Vere's ancestry was Nordic . He was descended from those who defied and defeated Jehovah .

    Its all in his plays . The fall of man , the corrupt ways of the Jew in Merchant of Venice , the treachery of the Cecil's etc. Montague is a Jewish House . As are the Cecil's.

    This is the genesis of your Bible . The lies of Satan.
    Thank-you blue roller. Notice that I take several sides in my threads -- which probably makes NO-ONE HAPPY!! If you haven't read The Gods of Eden by William Bramley -- please do so. But you seem to know all the dirty-secrets already -- so it might be a waste of time!! I simply think there is a certain sort of Bible-Study which is beneficial regarding getting at the "Real-Truth". Once again, what I'm espousing probably makes NO-ONE HAPPY!! I'm probably just placing this stuff on the record for Galactic-Jurisprudence (whatever the hell THAT means)!! I simply do NOT have enough RELIABLE Information to make proper determinations regarding the most important topics imaginable. I'm simply pursuing a particular hypothesis in an unorthodox-manner -- without making a BIG-DEAL about it. This Tempest in a Teapot is a Moot Holy-War!! I KNOW I'm closely-watched Online and in Real-Life -- but everyone mostly seems to be content to watch me Hang-Myself each and every day. Here is the sort of thing I counterbalance my Bible-Talk with!! I don't want to tell people What to Think. I just want people to THINK!! BTW -- I am NOT endorsing the following videos!!


    I often listen-to and post material which is much more positive or negative than I am in "Real-Life". I think I'd like the oldest and best TRUTH I can find -- but I seem to be reduced to constructing Copy and Paste Religious and Political Pseudo-Intellectual Science-Fiction. I seem to be HIGHLY Debilitated by my Exercise in Futility. I honestly think I experience some sort of nasty Supernatural-Persecution 24/7. I'm not sure if the Good-Guys and/or the Bad-Guys are "Out to Get Me". I honestly think the "Real-Truth" is going to utterly-devastate EVERYONE (Believers, Unbelievers, Agnostics, You-Name-Them). I've merely hinted-at this "Inconvenient-Truth". I don't think ANYONE really understands the nature and magnitude of what humanity is facing (and that includes insiders and elites). I feel the need to PRIVATELY-AGONIZE over my various and sundry conceptualizations and speculations. I'm NOT trying to "Spearhead a Movement". Just the Opposite. I still think there is something significant to exhaustively studying the Bible in the following groups -- analyzing them as eight stand-alone religions.

    1. Genesis through Deuteronomy.
    2. Joshua through Esther.
    3. Job through Song of Solomon.
    4. Isaiah through Daniel.
    5. Hosea through Malachi.
    6. Matthew through Acts.
    7. Romans through Jude.
    8. The Revelation.

    I presently lean toward [Job through Daniel] combined with [Romans through Jude] in the New King James Version. If one excluded [Genesis through Deuteronomy] and [The Revelation] how much of these excluded books could be recreated through exhaustive study of the included books?? I continue to wonder if the Bible is a HUGE and COMPLEX Intellectual and Moral TEST?! Please read the following book to discover what turned my already fragile and futile life UPSIDE-DOWN!! I was right in the middle of what occurred (as a shocked spectator). You need to read this if you wish to at least partially understand my madness. http://www.amazon.com/Investigative-Judgement-Everlasting-Gospel/dp/1523293446/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1457367512&sr=8-2&keywords=desmond+ford



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    I wish to make it clear that my threads are highly tentative and experimental. I feel like crap and I often randomly post cathartically. This stuff is NOT Ready for Prime-Time. I've been complaining about some sort of a perceived neurotoxic-condition combined with the supernatural and other nefarious meddling for many years but no one seems to give a god-damn. Perhaps some of you will find out what I'm talking about the hard-way. Then there will be weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth (perhaps for all-eternity). Don't get too smug. I'm sorry we couldn't work together. Too much water and bullshit have gone under the bridge. I am requesting that I be located on an appropriate planet somewhere in the universe. Earth-Humanity doesn't need me, or want me. So be it. I might continue my little internet-experiment -- just for the hell of it -- but I'd prefer going completely-incognito. I completely understand "Give Them What They Want -- Tell Them What They Want to Hear -- Make Sure You Get Laid and Paid" -- but I chose to do it the Hard-Way -- and I'm not sure why. Anyway, I guess I'll just watch things play-out, without interfering in any way, shape, or form. It's easier that way. BTW -- try reading Deuteronomy straight-through over and over -- while reading the rest of the Bible straight-through over and over -- noting carefully how much (or how little) of Deuteronomy is discussed and/or observed. Then, try reading Matthew straight-through over and over -- while reading the rest of the New Testament straight-through over and over -- noting carefully how much (or how little) of the Life and Teachings of Jesus (as contained within Matthew) is discussed and/or observed. There are some other variations on this theme you might wish to try. But remember that this is difficult and draining work. Finally -- what if one's Bible exclusively-consisted of Job through Isaiah in the NKJV?? What are the implications and ramifications?? What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say??
    Carol wrote:
    “WE’RE IN THE EYE OF THE STORM”
    ROTHSCHILD FEARS “DAUNTING LITANY” OF PROBLEMS AHEAD

    As central bank policy-makers’ forecasts have become more pessimistic (i.e. more realistic), Lord Rothschild is unsurprised at the current malaise: “not surprisingly, market conditions have deteriorated further…So much so that the wind is certainly not behind us; indeed we may well be in the eye of a storm.” On this basis, Rothschild highlights a “daunting litany of problems,” warning those who are optimistically sanguine about the US economy that “2016 is likely to turn out to be more difficult than the second half of 2015.” Lord Rothschild Letter to Investors (via RIT Capital):

    In my half-yearly statement I sounded a note of caution, ending up by writing that “the climate is one where the wind may well not be behind us”; indeed we became increasingly concerned about global equity markets during the last quarter of 2015, reducing our exposure to equities as the economic outlook darkened and many companies reported disappointing earnings. Meanwhile central banks’ policy makers became more pessimistic in their economic forecasts for, despite unprecedented monetary stimulus, growth remained anaemic. Not surprisingly, market conditions have deteriorated further. So much so that the wind is certainly not behind us; indeed we may well be in the eye of a storm.

    The litany of problems which confronts investors is daunting:

    The QE tap is in the course of being turned off and in any event its impact in stimulating asset prices is coming to an end. There’s the slowing down to an unknown extent in China. The situation in the Middle East is likely to be unresolvable at least for some time ahead. Progress of the US and European economies is disappointing. The Greek situation remains fraught with the country now having to cope with the challenge of unprecedented immigration.

    Over the last few years we have witnessed an explosion in debt, much of it repayable in revalued dollars by emerging market countries at the time of a collapse in commodity prices. Countries like Brazil, Russia, Nigeria, Ukraine and Kazakhstan are, as a result, deeply troubled. In the UK we have an unsettled political situation as we attempt to deal with the possibility of Brexit in the coming months. The risks that confront investors are clearly considerable at a time when stock market valuations remain relatively high.

    There are, however, some influential and thoughtful investment managers who remain sanguine about markets in 2016 on the grounds that the US economy is in decent shape – outside of manufacturing – while they feel that economic conditions may be improving. To them, the decline in these markets may have more to do with sentiment than substance. Others are less optimistic but feel that the odds remain against these potential difficulties materialising in a form which would undermine global equity markets. However our view is that 2016 is likely to turn out to be more difficult than the second half of 2015. Our policy will be towards a greater emphasis on seeking absolute returns. We will remain highly selective when considering public and private investment opportunities. Reflecting this policy, our quoted equity exposure has been reduced to 43% of net asset value.

    There’s an old saying that in difficult times the return of capital takes precedence over the return on capital. Our principle will therefore be to exercise caution in all things in the current year, while remaining agile where opportunities present themselves. Problems have a habit of creating opportunities and I remain confident of our ability to identify and profit from them during 2016. Perhaps Lord Rothschild is on to something…Fundamentally…
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-06/were-eye-storm-rothschild-fears-daunting-litany-problems-ahead
    Carol wrote:
    Pyramid of Lies Could Implode
    -Catherine Austin Fitts & Greg Hunter Video
    Sunday, March 6, 2016 14:37
    By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com

    Financial expert Catherine Austin Fitts has correctly predicted no financial collapse year after year. Now, she is not so sure one can be avoided.  Fitts explains, “In theory, it is easily possible to manage through the election.  It doesn’t have to blow up, but if you look at what is going on in the campaign and in Washington, the leadership is blowing up.  If the leadership doesn’t manage it properly, anything is possible.  I think what the global economy and the U.S. economy needs is the rule of law.  So, if we have to have this conversation to bring an end to this secrecy and privilege and get back to the rule of law so we can support productivity, then I say let’s have a mess.  I’d rather deal with our civilization and our governance system now than later.  The sooner we get back to productivity the better.”

    Fitts also says, “I used to have a pastor who used to say ‘God does not bless a mess.’ We have a mess, a pyramid of lies that goes on and on and on, and it’s a mess. So, could the mess implode?  Yes, it could implode.  Here’s the reality of where we are going.  I think we are in a long-term bull market . . . . The one thing the world cannot afford is if we bring the Constitutional covenant down.  That’s why I think the conversation going on in America right now is so important. . . . The Constitution is a 6,000 year miracle, and if that miracle fails, there will be anarchy in the world.  So, to me, the most important thing right now is to reaffirm the covenant of the principles we affirmed during the Revolution.  The last thing we need is Rubio, Jeb Bush or anybody calling for a Constitutional convention to balance the budget on the backs of the people who just had $40 trillion stolen from them.”

    So, are criminals running the U.S. government? Fitts, who is a former Assistant HUD Secretary, says, “Yes. . . . The American government . . . is running the central banking warfare model globally, and it depends heavily on criminal profits.  If you look at the general population, the general population supports that. . . . The general population supports that as long as they can pretend they don’t have responsibility for that.  If you look at the drug trafficking, the mortgage fraud, stuffing innocent people into prison, that is being implemented one county at a time in 3,100 counties.  There are millions of Americans getting paid to put a pretty face to it. . . . The party with the debt growth model is over, and that means the party is over for a lot of people who are unproductive.”

    Fitts contends there is some very good news if we can get rid of the criminal cronies. Fitts explains, “The wealth potential is enormous.  One of my favorite quotes is from founding father John Adams.  He said the war was not the revolution.  The war was the consequence of the revolution.  The revolution was in the hearts and minds of the people and their assumptions of their obligations to each other.  So, for people to take responsibility, they need to know the truth.  The leadership for many decades now has said the American people are too stupid and too dumbed down to take responsibility . . . or to be involved with solving the problems.  I don’t agree with that.  I agree with Winston Churchill, and he said, ‘Tell the people.’  If you tell the people what the real problems are and give them the tools . . . the wealth potential with new technologies and where you have rule of law where people believe in an economy where winners are allowed to happen. . . . Wow, it could be incredible.”

    Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with the founder and creator of The Solari Report Catherine Austin Fitts.

    (There is much more in the video interview.)
    blue roller wrote:My experience takes first priority when it comes to wisdom Orthy . There are plenty of instruction manuals out there but sooner or later you have to put life in to practice . Talking about it only gets you so far.

    I Did my fair share of navel Gazing and introspection sure and it has its place , its part of the process . But when it becomes the only reason for being alive it becomes a self referential feed back loop of doubt and indecision.

    Books can only take you so far . The day I rejected all teachers and Guru's was the day my minds eye opened because the truth is very simple and that's why so many don't get it. They are conditioned to expect it to be complex , so they develop a complex mind set ,thinking that that will make them sophisticated ! No wonder they call it a God complex.

    But sophistry is not wisdom , its intellectual banter/masturbation. Your not getting off interacting with the world . Your ejaculating by self stimulation. So to me ,all those books are like blow up dolls. A lousy substitute for the real thing.

    It's like being lectured to on the art of love making by a Virgin . The Virgin is not fooling anyone .Except his or her self.

    This is the trap the vast majority of humanity falls in to . They don't make love to life . They Rape and torture it . Because they are in constant fear and ignorance .

    Look what happened to my first thread here . Withdrawn without permission ! That's how far the programming goes to keep the lid on. Even when it proffer's to honor truth and freedom of speech ! Still no honorable excuse for that action.

    Whats Missing in your life ? Passion ? Intimacy ? Yes ? Or are you going to skirt around that stuff because you feel guilty about wanting it ?

    Look at Carols Avatar . Its the symbol for the Female and Male genitalia mingled together . What is she trying to say ? What is missing in her life ? Passion ? Well that's up to her to say or not say . We can only hazard a guess. But based on her input I would say for all her passion in other areas which is admirable, she is missing it in one particular zone. Its called compensation.

    Its your life that counts Orthy , Your choices ,your freedom . The religious texts feed on self doubt , the Churches prey on your doubt for profit.

    For a precious little while I opened one persons eye's here but it does not take long before the crabs  drag each other back down in to the Bucket. So sad. SO typical. Another lost soul dragged back down the hole .

    If you put a Rat in a cage with only the choice of water and a drugged water supply , it will commit slow suicide by drinking the drugged water because IT HAS NO LIFE . Free that Rat and give it choice and it will reject the drugged water and wean itself off the addiction. Because life,love and freedom is a far better NATURAL High and it does not hurt you either. Check it out on youtube. I think its called the rat farm experiment.

    People are the same .They try to fill the emptiness in their souls with alcohol, drugs, religious fervor, rigid dietary regimes that punish their bodies, online 'relationships' with ghosts. They are committing suicide because the real meaning of life has been replaced with mental prison bars of guilt, shame ,fear and doubt.

    My advice ? Get out there and get Laid . Get out there and find someone that makes you feel alive. Birds do it,Bee's do it .....You know the song.

    Oh and I know I will shock a lot of people by saying this , but if its been a while and you need professional help, Dont go to a shrink, go to a Prostitute. Find one you feel comfortable with and spend some time overcoming your shame and guilt. Dont judge her . Nobody deals with reality with more brutal honesty than a Prostitute . Tell her what you need and why . Be honest with her. Let her teach you what a Woman really wants and needs . No it probably wont turn in to something more with her sadly , but maybe your interaction will help her heal too.

    If you can overcome your self hate with someone else who deals with it everyday , maybe , just maybe , you can teach each other some valuable lessons about what love should be .

    Most men make the mistake of thinking its all about looks . Wrong. Handsome is as handsome does.

    No more Excuses Orthy , get some in for Christs sake. Double Thumbs Up

    If I was your neighbor I would drag you to the Whorehouse Myself but the geography does not work for me . And no I don't frequent whore houses myself . I do know plenty of empty marriages though and it amounts to the same thing.
    blue roller wrote:So I listened to some of Pat Condells  stuff. A lot of reasoned argument ,much of which I can agree with but in the end he insists on distinguishing Judaism as separate from Christianity and goes off about Jewish persecution to make it sound like they are hapless victims. Classic misdirection.

    The obvious truth hidden behind this polarized argument is this . All religions persecute each other to justify their existence . They are all Satan's pawns. The devil is not religious . He is a manipulator of human ignorance for profit. He has no allegiance to any faith . Far from it . Its called divide and conquer and it works so well because people insist on identifying themselves through their faith because they want the protection of 'gods grace'. Religion is a protection racket , Nothing more.

    So if you need an excuse to hate ,then go to church.

    Humans are brain washed in to thinking that they must be "devoted". What does that word mean when you de construct it ? De Voted . Loss of choice.

    A votive is an offering . Most people offer up their freedom in return for gods Protection. What a Scam . So I don't light Votive candles in the hope Mary mother of Jesus is going to give me some redemption, fat chance .

    Jew hate is tragic .All hate is tragic . Hate is a lousy excuse for those who feel unloved . The stupid wars that go on in Australia between catholic  and protestant ! Since when did god's 'Love' turn love in to hate ? From the beginning . Because gods message in the Bible is hate masquerading as love . Talk about your narcissistic power trip.

    People on this forum falling out over what food we should eat . How stupid is that ? People falling out because of some rubbish about all ET's being evil. Its amazing to watch how easily people's mind set is polarized in to fear and hate . The Mind prison.

    Why ? Because they are bored ,lonely ,sexually and emotionally frustrated . They hate their lives , they hate their bodies ,so they clutch at spiritual straws to 'feel good about themselves'. But in order to get back in gods favor they also punish themselves in the hope god will take pity on them if they do it long enough . Try a lifetime of being ignored by god and see what it does to a persons mind.

    The ultimate Neglect . Waiting for godot. The birds are singing outside and the free road beckons but no , the faithful stay indoors and mope. Nature ,the whole rest of nature , does not F*** around with Bibles and church. Life it the only cathedral you need . You want tall pillars and vaulted ceilings ? Go for a walk in the forest .
    Thank-you blue roller. I liked most of what you said. I have joked about living in a 600 square-foot office-apartment under Deja Vu!! I've also joked about hiring a Sexy and Intelligent Research-Assistant!! Dr. Who Under Deja Vu!! I'm partly joking -- and partly Sirius!! What's been especially frustrating over the past few years, is that my posts have almost never been directly and completely responded to. Most of them have been completely ignored. 90% of the responses have been off-topic, condescending, etc. I've made repeated requests for advice and assistance regarding doing something with my threads -- with no responses. I honestly think that in previous-lives, I might've been what I joke about becoming -- but that things didn't go so well -- so I got placed in this life-setting as sort of an attempted treatment and/or punishment. The galactic-stuff I consider seems much too familiar. You seem to be much too familiar. In fact, you remind me of The Ancient Egyptian Deity!! It's sort of like Dr. Who talking to The Master!! I guess I'll continue to idealistically-speculate about a highly-refined United States of the Solar System -- based-upon a seamless-integration of the City-States, the United-Nations, the Moon, and Mars -- in the context of the twenty-second century!! Incognito works for me -- but I'd like to do it with some semblance of refinement and style!! Hope springs eternal!! The following videos really make me wonder as I wander!!



    blue roller wrote:The tricky part with all this Orthy is separating the personal from the general when I express an opinion.

    While I cant say I agree with everything Christina Rad says , Damn she's Hot , and I dont mean just to look at . You dont have to agree with everything a person says to like them or admire them .

    Its a shame that humanity puts so much guilt on attraction and passion. I am shameless when it comes to complementing women , even if I dont agree with their politics ,religion .

    That's the thing that's hard to quantify , a persons spirit. Who are we to say they are wrong ? Maybe they need to be wrong in order to experience what they need to get on.

    I have been wrong so many times and I am still getting things wrong I'm sure. But i needed to get it wrong before I got it righter , not absolutely right, but righter in the sense of more balanced , more content ,getting better results and being at peace ,happy.

    Interesting thing is I find when I ask myself why is that person so angry ? its like turning on a magnifying glass and your brain starts to analyze the exterior of that persons gestures, voice , smile or lack of it.

    We are all looking for whats missing in our selves and others . Strangely its easier to see other people's lacks than our own . But if you get out there and relate to them regardless its going to give you useful feedback .

    I come here to stimulate my mind and see if I can connect with a person at a genuine level without the baggage static . Everybody is looking for the one person and yet the many are one and every interaction is at some level sexual . Not overtly physically sexual , but exchanging information /ideas is intimate ,even if a person has all their defenses up .

    Men and Women love to flirt with ideas and beliefs . There's  nearly always a sexual dance to interactions . The more a person denies that ,the chances are the more they are suppressing their need for intimacy .

    Having said that , in practice, full on sexual intimacy that is comfortable warm and truly honest ? Well you are not going to find that with others until you have brought yourself to the party without the baggage.

    I have seen women fall head over heels for a man who may be physically in theory a plain type . BUT the inner strength that they have built up is way sexier to women. Women never ever respect men for being weak and immature . They want inner strength and they know what it takes for a man to get there . Few men stand on their own feet long enough to become themselves .

    When I was young I took crazy risks and did crazy stuff . Worked with trailer trash and bad asses . I saw the America that most Americans fear to get close to . But I loved it . I loved being on the edge even when I was thinking "holy Sh111t ,these guys are freaking dangerous". I faced fear many times and realized something important . Its the down at heel that reach out hardest to feel. It all comes out wrong because they are insecure and have low self esteem , but they taught me more than my most favorite books ever could about life . Bar fights , drugs, violence , acts of desperation and despair . Never mind the Hollywood BS . Reality beats reality TV hands down.

    I used to love to talk to waitresses .American waitresses can teach you more about life than some spoiled ivy league princess with a Psych degree ever could .Because they live on the edge . Not in the Hedge.

    Every now and then though ,the angels take you under their wing and they often disguise themselves as Bikers ,whores and tramps ! Yes .We are talking ET's with multiple degree's . Not just in physics and the arts , but LIFE. They LOVE coming here to get down and dirty with Humans . Its like being in a gangster movie only for real. And if they get killed during the trip , that's like GOLD STAR experience .

    "You got Killed in a Bar in LA ? On Santa Monica Boulevard ? "

    "Yep it was awesome . I was talking to an underage hooker and her pimp just wasted me with a .40 cal Glock !"

    " Dude , I TOTALLY have to try that ."

    Life is such an awesome experience and if this is Hell , its a Helluva trip.
    blue roller wrote:You know what I found out when I turned Fourty ? I was standing/living on top of what is probably the Biggest most important ET underground base in the southern Hemisphere .

    No biggy really . There is a string of them all around the coast line of Australia. Way more important than that piddly ass base in new Mexico.

    You can always tell your living near a GENUINE ET base . There is a certain Buzz , a sense of expansiveness . Because you are literally living next to a gateway to the stars . So while most ET's walking the streets here stay incognito , occasionally they will drop their disguise to say hello .

    Its nice and I promise you its no big deal once you get past the WTF phase .

    This tiny backwater planet is kind of the hicksville of this quadrant. Well it is basically . The first thing any human would notice about the many species of females they may bump in to here is that they are strong, Sexy ,relaxed and comfortable in their own skins . Kinda like Charlies Angels. The guys are easy going and relaxed. No strutting or posing . No rudeness or arrogance .

    There are Humanoids out there that you would not superficially pick for ET's  but you can feel they are different . This does not freak me out at all. But it makes most earth humans VERY uncomfortable . Nervous , angry , suspicious ,resentful. Its kind of like the reception I get on Forums.

    I had one lady walk up my drive way to say hello one day , Fighter Pilot . Drop dead sexy but not in a slutty pole dancer way . Platinum blond hair and very pale skin . Massive blue blue eye's. She could not talk as long as I would have liked but it was wonderful. Physical beauty is nice but inner beauty ,that's the biggest turn on.

    Sometimes I wish I could just sit and stare at  them but its a tad rude to do that. So I pay the complement and sincere complements are always appreciated. Its not that ET Chicks go out to attract sexual attention or flaunt it .They just are so fabulous , you cant help thinking 'WOW!

    These people are FREE Orthy . They are not hung up and ashamed . They are happy adventurous individuals.
    Thank-you blue roller. I admire French Organists who can improvise for hours -- with no written-music whatsoever. My understanding is that they learn their rare-art by sitting at the organ-console for hours -- playing every conceivable combination of notes -- regardless of how horrible it sounds. A Cathedral-Organist once tried to teach me to improvise (following a Mass). I didn't do very well -- but it was fun, just the same. The organist told me that if I made a mistake -- to just repeat it immediately -- to make it seem as if the discordant-note was intentional. Another famous-organist suggested that one should simply resolve the mistake in a graceful-manner. Perhaps these are valuable-lessons for living-life. BTW -- I have suggested that Sacred Classical Music might serve as an Ecumenical-Foundation -- but what do I know?? What worries me about life, sexuality, and mistakes -- is the possibility that everything we say and do is observed and recorded -- electronically and/or supernaturally -- as if we're all a bunch of goddamn lab-rats. Read the last chapter of Ecclesiastes. Then, throw in terms such as "Guardian-Angels", "Recording-Angels", "Every Secret-Thing", and so on. Metatron in the Bedroom?? Metatron Likes to Watch!! What Would Alan Rickman Say?? One more thing. I seem to be completely unattractive to the opposite-sex -- and that's before I open my mouth. I remind myself of John Nash (Russell Crowe) in A Beautiful Mind.

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    blue roller wrote:Got a busy day today so I will have to keep this brief .

    The power of Pipe organs (yes I do know quite a lot about them) is that you can hold chords indefinitely right ? So regardless of whether you prefer mechanical/ tracker action or electro pneumatic , pipe Organs are powerful tools as indeed are all musical instruments.

    I am very partial to the fiery reeds of Cavaille Coll and I LOVE  Frank . The two CD set from saint Sulpice is one of my favorite recordings ever.

    But I also like the north German school of organ building .

    If you must obsess about the Bible then the king James version is probably the only version worth the candle . Yes , it is enciphered and I am sure John Nash would be able to tell you more about that side of encryption than I can .

    My grandfather was a cryptanalyst at Bletchley Park. Unfortunately AGAIN , LIKE ALL USEFUL GEN , ITS BEEN REMOVED.

    If your going to worry about what people know , know this . All the crap you feel guilty about , they have done it too . So its all even in the end.

    Here's a book you should check out . Its way older than the Bible , goes back to the very beggining and every body has a copy . It can be corrupted slightly but the core Data is always authentic . Its fully annotated and comes with an exhaustive reference library . Its fully reproducible , you get a free copy with every life and you can share information at no charge or fear of copyright infringement.

    Its Called , wait for it ...............DNA.

    You are your most valuable prophet Orthy. Not me or anyone else . You have to stop beating yourself up to get peace . Masturbation is nothing to be ashamed of . If god was to punish every guy that did that there would be no men left on the planet for crying out loud . As long as you diminish yourself you will not give yourself what you really need .

    Go to an escort , seriously .You dont have to have sex if you dont want to. Ask her what you need to get it right . She is being payed to give you objective advice . She has nothing invested in messing you up because she wants you to be a satisfied customer right ? A shrink wont give you the physical connection your body craves . Sexual intimacy unlocks DNA . That's why the churches frown on it and demonize it.

    You think you are ugly ? Rubbish . What have you got to loose by asking a female associate or friend 'okay whats the price of admission , how do I get to first base ?' Women will find your blunt directness refreshing and they LOVE giving advice . Take it with a pinch of salt ,get a second opinion of course and enjoy the process .

    Was Nash a Sexy beast Physically ? He still got lucky. Its all relative Orthy. Stop making excuses and hiding behind your bible . Its not big enough to hide behind anyway . You can do this . I want answers man , Damn it!

    Go forth , orth . Your time is now.
    Thubs Up Thubs Up
    blue roller wrote:Oh and one more thing before I dash . Don't get advice from the women on this forum, Worst mistake you could make . They are mostly to neurotic and in denial . All this spiritual posturing is just that . They are mostly lonely, angry and in denial . They wont give you any straight Gen . They see your insecurity and it mirrors their own . So they are just going to ride you for cheap kicks and beat you up . Its like looking for love in a country and western Tavern . All you will get is broken teeth and a pool cue wrapped around your kidneys.

    There is a real world out there . Did you know Bach got caught having sex with his wife in the Organ Loft Once ? You go , Johann . Dude .

    Bach was no fool. He knew he was a ghost in the machine . But what a legacy he left . Talk about your hardcore Passion of Mathew . Rock on you crazy German Diamond .

    I have met that Organist in person . She is one Horny Babe . Talk about a flirt . Why is it that most male organists are gay and most female organists are dare I say it here , Horn bags ?  Woa , I said it . Oh now I am in trouble . The lord will come in fury and Strike me down ! NOT.

    You know all that Masonic Crap about Boaz and Joachim ? The twin pillars ? You know what it really means ? A woman's legs and the gateway to heaven that lies between them . That , my friend is what that really means .
    blue roller wrote:I have lost count of the number of Christians I knew personally when I lived in the US who read their Bible in the toilet at work while their marriages fell apart from neglect ,guilt and self righteous indignation brought on by the impossible demands of the ten commandments .

    I mean please , thous shalt not covet thy Neighbors wife ? There is not a man on the planet who has not done that . Its impossible to comply with such a demand . I knew a christian pastor who's wife was sleeping with the previous pastor of their church . One wrecked family later this guy has lost everything trying to be a 'good christian'.

    Why are Americans so fanatical about religion ? Because their nation was founded by fanatics ,that's why . Salem Witch hunts, the genocide of 100 million native Americans. And now ,the war on terror . Or in plain speak , AMERICAN IMPERIALISM. Guilt ridden fanatics always project their guilt on to the innocent. AND who owns congress now ? The Jewish Lobby.

    The Bible is a play book for war by the ultimate terrorist , Jehovah . You know . The guy that wiped out a whole planet . Nuked two cities and encouraged Abraham to kill his own son and sleep with his own daughters ? Hello . There is nothing civilized about the old testament.
    Thank-you blue roller.  The Bible actually makes sense in a Star Wars Context!! This is why I've tried to drag the Bible into my Pseudo-Intellectual Religious and Political Science-Fiction!! Things Go to Hell When Jesus is Sold Like Soap!! Try reading Patriarchs and Prophets, Prophets and Kings, Desire of Ages, and Acts of the Apostles, in that order (all by Ellen White) as an alternative to reading the Bible from cover to cover!! Does this approach hint-at how the Bible should've been written?? Sorry if that offends but the Bible often seems to fall-short of properly representing the Creator(s) of Heaven and Earth (along with everything else)!! The RIGHT Organist playing the RIGHT Music on the RIGHT Organ with the RIGHT Registration in the RIGHT Acoustical-Environment is PHENOMINAL!! But the Right-Stuff is rarely achieved. I lean toward the recordings by Michael Murray. I heard him in concert at the First Congregational Church of Los Angeles (6th and Commonwealth). I spoke with him after the concert, and he was quite the gentleman. I've also enjoyed attending several organ-concerts at Grace Episcopal Cathedral in San Francisco (atop Nob Hill). Lynne Davis was a class-act. I sat right behind the console. She played the Allegro Movement of Charles Marie Widor's Sixth Organ Symphony along with Bach and Vierne. I spoke with her concerning Hymn-Improvisation.

    I especially enjoyed attending a Pierre Cochereau concert at Grace Cathedral in which he did an extensive and well-developed improvisation on a submitted-theme (to which he initially shrugged his shoulders, much to the delight of the audience)!! I argued with Peter Hereford during a Master-Class at the First Congregational Church of Los Angeles (regarding tempo-variation in the music of J.S. Bach)!! Sherry Shriner claimed that Bach pissed the demons off with his music!! Bach was supposed to have improvised better music than the music he wrote-down. The same was said for Charles Marie Widor!! I love the G. Donald Harrison Aeolian Skinner electro-pneumatic organ at Grace Cathedral!! But really, I'm a tracker-backer!! I learned that term from Dr. Angela Kraft Cross. We sang together in the choir at the Loma Linda University Church of Seventh-day Adventists, where I took organ-lessons from Kimo Smith (aka K.S. Bach). Kimo was also the organist at the Hollywood Presbyterian Church (where Fred Bock was the choir-director). Fred was supposed to have done very well with his sheet-music business. He was quite the composer, as well. Lloyd John Ogilve was the pastor and I met him after one of the services. He later became the Chaplain of the U.S. Senate.

    I enjoyed attending a Marie Claire Alain Master-Class (with Cherry Rhodes providing the introduction)!! "And now, I introduce to you, the Mademoiselle Marie Claire Alain!!" It doesn't get much better than that!! Auditioning for the Crystal Cathedral Morning Choir in the office of Fred Swann was a nerve-wracking (but fun) experience!! I enjoyed singing for one season but when Dr. Robert H. Schuller yelled at me in public, I left the choir and church forever!! The Silberman organs of North Germany are some of my favorites, with a very bright tonal-quality. I especially enjoy hearing the North-German organ-music of Dietrich Buxtehude played on these fine instruments (such as the one in Freiburg Cathedral). The Cavaille-Coll organs of France are my favorites (especially the one in Saint Sulpice)!! I watched the erection of a large organ at Pacific Union College. It was a four-manual tracker-action Rieger (with a French-Romantic tonal-design). I spent WAY Too Much Time playing Bach on this fine-instrument where I took organ-lessons from Dr. Del Case. Such an organ would be optimal in the rear-loft at Grace Cathedral. I once turned pages for Dr. David Rothe during an organ-concert he gave at U.C. Berkeley in Hertz Hall. He was a music-professor at Cal State Chico (where they have a tracker built by Munetaka Yokota, who I briefly-assisted in the initial phase of that project). He later installed a fine-organ at Cornell University.

    One more thing. They should've installed that 1875 Cavaille Coll designed pipe-organ in Saint Peter's Basilica, in the Vatican!! I still think they should do it!! I tend to lean toward making the Bach B-minor Mass the Mass of Choice!! A combination of the Traditional Latin Mass with the 1928 Book of Common Prayer (with Spoken-English and Sung-Latin) might serve as a Stand-In Ecumenical Mass!! I should STOP!! What Would Pope Pius XII Say?? What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say?? I learned about Monseigneur Bowe from the first organist of the New St. Mary's Cathedral in San Francisco!! I still think that building would be a cool General-Assembly Auditorium for at least one-aspect of a United States of the Solar System!! I should STOP!! Both Bible-Study and Organ-Music are extremely-difficult (if done properly). They are excellent mental and spiritual exercises but they should NOT be crammed-down the throats of the general-public!! Here is yet another study-plan. Try reading Job through Daniel straight-through over and over while reading the Rest of the Bible straight-through over and over!! My bias is toward Job through Daniel (in the context of the Whole-Bible). Think About It. One Last Thing. The Grand Piece Symphonique by Cesar Franck is one of my favorites!! I once discussed this work with Fred Swann during a Crystal Cathedral Choir dinner at his home. The discussion revolved around the numerous beginnings and endings -- and the scholarly criticism of this style of composition. I think I might've aggravated him a bit. I'm quite skilled at such things!! Here's something I wrote in the 90's. It was rejected by an SDA journal, so I just let it go, until now. It's not very long or profound, but someone might find it helpful.

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    The eight year-old piano-student looked longingly at the great cathedral in the distance. If only she could help produce beautiful music there someday. But that required perfect keyboard technique. She could never be perfect, she thought. Just then, her teacher entered the room, smiling reassuringly. As the lesson began, he explained that the path of perfection begins with simple songs. Then, step by step, she could play increasingly challenging music. She could have perfect keyboard technique at each step. He also explained that he could not learn for her. She must play her part. Even though the lessons were a free-gift, cooperation between student and teacher were necessary for the free-lessons to continue. A willful, stubborn refusal of the student to harmonize with the teacher and the principles of music, would cancel the gift. The gift was a relationship with no room for boasting or pride. This did not mean, he continued, that she must never make a mistake or do nothing but practice the piano. This would only interfere with the learning process. Learning should be fun! Not the cause of a nervous-breakdown.

    The cathedral was filled to capacity, and there was a buzz of excitement. The people were about to hear something extraordinary. A brilliant young-organist, eighteen years of age, was about to improvise on some of the great hymns, in a new and fresh way. Suddenly, glorious music reverberated through the cathedral. It was like nothing the people had ever heard. True, it was an old hymn, but this was different. The young-lady organist used no written music. She made it up as the program proceeded, following the leading of the Holy-Spirit. There was a Divine-Cooperation to produce a New-Song. Only the student could play this song, for you see, the teacher had no hands, except the hands of his student. A jealous, hate-filled wretch had destroyed the teacher's nimble-fingers many years before. This young student had perfectly-reproduced the keyboard-technique of her teacher, yet there was spontaneity and individuality, and there remained much to learn, and new heights to attain. The cathedral reverberated and pulsed with the great theme "GOD IS LOVE!!"



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    blue roller wrote:Yes , somehow I just Knew you were an Organ Buff.

    Hey , that's cool . I know what Pipe Organs do to people. Its a small world Eh ? So what do you think of Fisk ? Andover is still in Business I think but I am not sure about those guys down in Virginia who's name escapes me. Taylor and Boody ! That's it. They do good work.

    You should also know that Computer programmers love Organs . Well its a mechanical computer essentially.

    During the war , the allies used concert broadcasts to transmit coded signals to the resistance , did you know that ? Keyboards work best for obvious reasons.

    Well you know the Pipe organ is the king of instruments but I think that extended exposure to them can actually make Organists a bit neurotic , which is a shame . Its a strange world really because there you are playing the game at church every Sunday knowing full well that the punters are being fleeced.

    I grew up C of E , but its not as fanatical as the US churches . We did not go to church to get right with the lord . We went for the music . I used to help Dad fix the pneumatic barker action levers on our church organ . Nice Organ , a Lewis with very French tonal Voicing . Nice Reeds. F**ckin' awesome trumpet stop too. Dad was a big father Willis man himself .He liked the English sound.

    Tracker Backer Eh ? Yes , I suppose I prefer them in many ways but there are limits to mechanical action instruments. Well there you go . Your probably one of those guys that can quote the stop list on all your favorite Organs Right ? Pedal ,choir, ruck positive, great and swell . Do you like Spanish Horizontal Trumpets ?

    Well there is one swell organ you need to exercise a bit more my friend and im not talking about the one in the box with the progressive action doors and foot pedal actuation either.

    Do you like that Dr who episode where he uses the organ at Westminster ? Harmonics can do amazing things.

    There is much more to that cathedral than meets the Eye. They have a Holo deck there . I have been through it .
    LINKI have even suggested Fisk as a possible builder of that 1875 Cavaille Coll designed organ for St. Peters (since C-C hasn't existed for a very long time). Fisk is one of the best. I think the founder was training to be a nuclear-scientist (or something like that) when he caught the organ-building bug. Dr. David Rothe (who I took lessons from) got his doctorate from Stanford and they had a 55 rank Fisk (in the Memorial Chapel). He was a proponent of installing a tracker in the rear-loft at Grace Cathedral. I knew a Ship-Captain who (as a young Catholic-School student) interviewed Bishop James Pike at Grace Cathedral. Bishop Pike was outspokenly against the Vietnam War and outspokenly for Situation-Ethics!! He tragically died in the desert under strange circumstances. I have an autographed-copy of a book by his wife (Diane Pike).

    Didn't they use a keyboard for communicating with the aliens in Close Encounters of the Third Kind?? I wasn't aware of that WWII trivia!! I think organists often are so "above it all" that they "lose touch". But really, organists and choirmasters should be consulted regarding "church-reform". I sometimes wonder if a State-Church which only provided the Best Sacred Classical Music for no-charge to the attendees might not be a bad idea?! No Preaching. No Mumbo-Jumbo. No Bullshit. Just Sacred Classical Music!! If people really wanted Guilt, Fear, Hatred, Confusion, Controversy, and Nervous-Breakdowns they could pay to take a class from the clergy!! Go Anglican-Agnostics!! I am presently reading a Church of England Book of Common Prayer (with amazing artwork throughout). I was surprised to find No Psalter in that prayer-book!! I'm currently thinking in terms of a Prayer-Book with Job through Daniel in the NKJV and the 1982 Episcopal Hymnal all in One-Book!! Sherry Shriner spoke of Lucifer attending either the Queen's Jubilee and/or a Royal Wedding (sitting in the second or third row)!! I am still suspecting "Lucifer" might be a "Fall-Guy" term as a cover-story for more than one God, Goddess, or Archangel. I've been told that "Lucifer" no longer exists but I suspect a "Name-Change Game". What Would "The Changeling" Say?? What Would Pazuzu Do?? What Would Loki Do?? Have you read One More Sunday by John D. MacDonald?? Salvation4Sale?? Bugged Confessionals?? I should STOP!!

    The Barker-Levers made playing large tracker-action organs MUCH easier on the fingers (especially when coupling manuals)!! My favorite stop is one from the organ at the former Crystal Cathedral: La Force '64!! "May La Force Be With You!!" That organ has some kick@$$ trompettes!! But I prefer the State Trompettes at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine!! I love ANY well placed and voiced horizontal-trompettes!! I'm NOT looking for sexual-experiences!! I'm NOT joking about the concept of hiring a Sexy and Intelligent Research-Assistant (sort of like Dr. Who and His-Assistant)!! But that would be strictly-academic!! I need to see that Dr. Who episode with the organ at Westminster Abbey!! Did you hear about the "Streaker in Church"?? They caught him by the organ!! I witnessed (in real-life) a Streaker streak across the stage of the Hollywood Bowl during a Hollywood High-School graduation ceremony!! The Police were waiting at the end of the stage!! 'RA' told me, "Sex is Extremely Important!!" I've loved and lost -- and now I don't want any kind of love anymore!! Sort of like James Dean in East of Eden. I keep thinking in terms of East of Giza!! There used to be a YT video of a barefooted organist at Stanford!! They don't pay those guys enough!! Remember Tony Bennett's I Left My Heart in San Francisco?? The joke is "I Left My Heart in Palo Alto at Stanford!!" (Get It?? Heart-Transplant??) Do You Know the Way to San Jose?? What Would Julia Say in Helix??


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    Imagine a Bilderberg Meeting chaired by the Borg Queen of Heaven in St. Mary's Roman Catholic Cathedral in San Francisco!! I'm half-joking and half-serious!! What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say?? I'm NOT going away MAD. I'm just going away with my tail between my legs (or is that thing really my tail??)!! A sexy-organist once stroked my cheek with her fingers, as she cooed, "Caress the Keys!!" That's all I'm going to say about THAT!! Isn't making-music a lot like making-love?? I learned that from a Catholic-Organist!! I prefer to play-dumb about a lot of things. It comes quite naturally!! I just go with the flow!! How 'bout a Whorehouse for Organists??!! "Play the Widor Toccata perfectly for a BIG Surprise!!!" What Would a Renegade French-Jesuit Organist Say and Play??
    blue roller wrote:Musicians ! you guys are a funny lot . Why do musicians seem to be a walking disaster area in relationships ? What is it with you people ? Dont get me wrong , I love music and I had a wonderful affair with a Keyboard player myself . She was a Vision of beauty and very talented but like so many musicians  ,hot housed by her parents and the RCM . It left its mark but she is fine now . Must have been my angelic influence .  Cool

    Its a tight Knit world of fragile ego's and career's I guess. I suppose they  live in the clouds and forget to put their Harps down before they deal with the mundane stuff.

    I want to build myself a small cabinet /continuo organ one day but its a while off before I will get to it .

    Music is such a powerful medium but I think many musicians are not coached very well on life skills to counter their dedication to their art . I was often astonished at their lack of practical ability in many areas .Still am. They tend to grasp at 'facts' without knowing the technical realities . Often their romantic flights of fancy color their perception . For this reason and others they are usually not terribly welcome on the shop floor of an Organ builders workshop. They usually just make a complete balls up of anything they are given to do .

    But then that's the way of it eh ? I hate computers . I really dont like learning to much about them.

    I used to tell my GF not to worry about the tiny mistakes and focus on feeling the passion in her playing . Technical perfection can become a painful exercise to listen to. They say Bach could entrance his audience playing the Clavichord. Well its all in the phrasing in my experience . Its the space between the notes as much as the notes themselves. The teasing ,needing and massaging of time and motion that makes the moment so exquisite.

    I find the best players are the ones who say little and smile much .

    I liked it when my teacher pressed her breasts against my back as she taught me phrasing . A bit distracting but in a nice way . She is a damn good player.

    That's what its about Orthy. Feeling and being . To me the Bible is a punch bowl full of Piss . To many meddlers and not enough sweet apples.

    And another thing that really bugs me about professional classical musicians. They dont get out and play for the sheer joy of it as much as they should. I used to make Organists do stuff they shouldn't like play totally inappropriate stuff . I would be clutching my stomach at the delicious impropriety of it and they would be wringing their hands afterwards worrying what god would do ! Like he was even listening.

    For heavens sake , live a little and f**k the priests . Give me some funk and rock that big Bitch you neurotic old Queen ! All that heavy weight grunt and your playing some pansy ass dithering melancholy guff . Ugh. Work it baby ,work it like a Ho. Heh heh Heh heh Lmao

    Oh and just in case your wondering , I have done a J.S Bach and taken a GF in the Loft . She may have only pulled out one stop but it was a damn fine tune.
    blue roller wrote:Its a crazy world isnt it ? Some would read my last post and say 'your the Devil BR'. No , I really am not an evil person at all . But what I am trying to say is this . Nothing suffocates the spirit of joy in life quicker than prudery. Behind every stuffed shirt there is a hungry soul desperate for warmth and intimacy.

    Monogamy is a lovely concept and it can be for some people ,more than enough , if they find a genuine soul mate . But often there is much trial and error before the right person comes along. Far to many marriages are leveraged and arranged , not the the result of deep abiding love .

    To many women settle for second best or good provider. To many men are wet behind the ears and helpless mother's boy's .

    Religion does not enable the spirit . It crushes it.

    So many Christians used to come to me for advice on their love/sex life . I could not believe how guilty they felt about everything . Ridiculous stuff .

    How many Children did Bach have ? Dont tell me he was not a passionate man and practical too. That was part of his greatness . And a rebel constantly at war with the absurdities of the Churches he worked for .

    Improvisation is not just for Organists with flair and imagination. It should be the By word for every authentic life . Surrendering to the moment and letting your heart speak instead of repeating the party line.

    Most people do not live . They serve blindly a god who does not exist , a devil that is little more than the product of their own paranoia. I used to laugh out loud with a lot of the Christians I worked with . We would have sex clinics during working hours . 'How do I ,you know , foreplay and stuff ?'. So My friend and I would tell them . Don't rush the gates of paradise young man ,take your time and savor the moment . If your done in five minutes the marriage will be over in five months.

    Sex before marriage ? go for it man. Try before you buy .

    Sexual guilt crucifies more people in an hour now than the Romans did in five centuries. If that's progress then I aint buyin' it Honey .

    Anyone who says to me " I Don't need love no more " is lying to themselves and no one believes them for a split second . James Dean , the Hero for people with Zero self esteem.

    I have heard people say that when they give up on life and loose faith in themselves . I said it after my second big break up. Took me a few years to get up on my feet again , but its okay , I got back to embracing life again . Love is not without risk but a life without love is no life at all. Self esteem is a worthy subject for a lifetime of research and development . Bible study ? Meh . That's my definition of mental torture.

    I put a Bullet through a Bible once to see if god would get pissed with me . Sun came out instead.
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    All those PIN-UPS that Once Were!.

    Now replaced by mind-controlled Miss Universe Bimbos!
    Lady Ga-Ga, Kate Perry and Miley Cyrus on-stage-performances!
    Wait for it, it won't be long before a hand-held mike becomes her vibrator!  
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    Remember the movie Miss Congeniality?


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    How women's bodies have been transformed in the past 60 years... with huge implications for our health. What's happened to our bodies? We're two inches taller, half a stone heavier - and have gone up three shoe sizes. It's a world away from the slender physique of the 1950s Hollywood bombshells. But what has it meant for our health? Sixty years ago the average British woman's figure was fairly trim: at a petite 5ft 2in, the scales rarely tipped 9st 10lb. Even her feet - size 31/2 - were small, and she fitted neatly into a size 12 dress. As for her vital statistics - 37-27-39 - she was the classic hour-glass, not far off Hollywood standards (America's most famous pin-up girl Betty Grable measured a curvy but slender 36-24-35). Fast forward to the year..... and we have ballooned. Not only are we taller, we're also heavier and less curvaceous, according to the UK National Sizing Survey.




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    Natalie was fitted out in this corset with a 19" waist size comfortably down to 17" (Edith Head, her personal Costume Designer). On Record, Natalie was 5 ' tall with a 32B-21-32 figure. Natalie prides in her narrow slim waist, always showing me as a shapely spirit! If you like period costume with feminine lace, like I do showing Natalie blossoms in this movie with every costume change, like no other movie she starred in. Have a browse here.
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    I'm pushing real goddess energies to re-emerge, when a woman behaves like a lady,
    and not like all the Reality TV Whores from Babylon Productions right out of Hollywood.
    blue roller wrote:There ya go Orthy. I nearly got layed by a female organist right there in the loft but I thought better of it. The tuner was down stairs adjusting the inches of wind on the Bellows while this organist was trying to adjust a few inches upstairs. I resisted temptation that time because I was happily engaged elsewhere. Everybody needs some sugar honey.

    But of course playing music is sexual , how could it not be . Its all energy, raw pent up energy waiting to be released .

    Cameron Carpenter Rocks doesn't he ? That's how you play the Organ . Balls out.

    I love musicians but sometimes its hard not to laugh at their funny ways . But who is not messed up a bit.

    So you got a haircut eh ?

    Tilda Swinton is one of my favorite actresses . Not because I find her sexually attractive but because she goes for it and sticks it the man . Ever seen the Film I am love ? Its a good one. I have not watched that one she did with Ewan Macgregor yet on a canal boat .

    Intercourse . can mean sex ,can mean conversation . Same thing. Except for the sticky mess in the former and the lack of closure on the later .

    I have a mad Organ Builder friend . He lives ,breathes and comes organ . Its like a never ending stream of stop lists and techno blab . Dude ,get a life . He's happy though ,in a mad obsessive compulsive way.

    Well i gotta go now but hey , you take care of yourself orthy and stop running yourself down. Hanging out on forums is bad for your mental health . Seriously .

    Oh and by the way . If you have not had sex in an organ loft yet your not playing it properly. No you don't do it on the walk board over the swell chests and you don't do it in the blower room .Only janitors and Organ builders are allowed that privilege. Up against an open 64ft wood feels good but stay away from the pedal reed dept you clumsy ass or the tuner will be well pissed. There is a second reason why the console bench is adjustable though .
    blue roller wrote:Nice Brustwerk .

    Check out the facade pipes on that french Job . Is that a slider chest or what ? Pull out the stops on that one and you would get some serious noise. I think I would blow my horizontal trumpet out of its boot if I got to close.

    Hold that note orthy ,we have a cipher and I need to find out if its a sticky pallet or not. Yes it does mean I am going to have to rummage around in the great chest for a while. No , you just stay at the console Organ Boy, this is a job for a serious organ builder only.

    The upper work on the second one is eye popping yet tasteful I think .

    I particularly enjoy the pipe shades on the North German model . But whatever the style they are all highly playable .

    So er , got anymore like that ?
    Thank-you blue roller. This sexy little conversation might not continue. This might be an excellent way for me to STOP posting. I was told (many years ago) that a couple was SIRIUSLY Making-Out while I practiced the Toccata and Fugue in D-minor by J.S. Bach!! I had NO Idea!! A stranger once told me that they had sex with their girlfriend in St. Mark's Episcopal Cathedral in Seattle!! A clergyperson once joked with me about the possibility of having sex with their wife at the front of the church (presumably without the congregation present)!! I'd love to know what the Creator REALLY had in mind for Humanity??!! God Invented Sex!! But did God create Hermaphrodite-Giants??!! Was splitting the original-creation into male and female a BIG No-No??!! What Would TREEE Say?? What Would Groot Do?? Did the Hypothetical-Hermaphrodites live to be 1,000 years-old?? Did Illegally-Splitting Male-Female into Male and Female result in 100 year life-spans?? What does Genesis 6 REALLY Teach?? Historical-Studies might be about as much fun as a Root-Canal BUT they might be Absolutely-Necessary if humanity wishes to have any sort of a Useable-Future. I think I've provided a quite-interesting study-guide, but no-one seems to give a god-damn. If and when TSHTF everyone will probably scream "Why Didn't Anyone Warn Us??!!" I understand and appreciate your poking and prodding but I think I need to move-on. I might know who you are but I'm not going to blurt it out. What Would Aaron, Cal, and Kate Say?? What Would King David, King Solomon, and the Queen of Sheba Say?? That's All I'm Going to Say!!

    I spent a significant amount of time observing an organist / organ-builder at a large Methodist church in Hollywood (with a four-manual Casavant which had been played by Pierre Cochereau). This church was also used in a number of TV-Shows and Motion-Pictures. That organ had some amazing reeds and trompettes!! Pipe-Organs are too-expensive, too-often in lousy-buildings, and too-often played by pompous-jerks who don't understand the music or the instrument. The best existing buildings and organs should be properly maintained and utilized. I'm NOT proposing a lot of new-construction. That proposed St. Peter's organ would simply complete an existing long-term building-project (which should've been completed at least 100 years ago). My form of Protestantism is pretty-weird, isn't it?? My version of Ecumenism is to just make everyone angry!! I actually prefer a combination of Organ, Orchestra, Choir, and Congregation. Perhaps organs are becoming obsolete. I don't know. But really, the music itself is incredible!! What if rock-groups played organ-music??!! What if Cortege and Litany by Marcel Dupre were turned-into an Organ-Orchestral-Choral arrangement?? Siriusly. What Would the Evil Vicar Say?? Why is War Honorable and Sex Shameful?? Interesting, isn't it?? I'm Sirius about that Dr. Who and Female-Assistant thing!! No one should have to put-up with me, without getting paid!! The position would be Monday through Friday 9AM-5PM and would be completely academic and professional. Honest!! Actually, there might be another position available for the Entire-Weekend, with undisclosed "duties". The "positions" might be "negotiable". Just Kidding.


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    Imagine these two videos in the context of the the Arboretum parking-lot of the former Crystal Cathedral!! Talk about Contextual-Superimposition!! Siriusly!! Imagine the former Garden Grove Community Church without the Crystal Cathedral and Family Life Center but with the MUCH Larger Dimensions and Pipe-Organ of the Cathedral of St. John the Divine (with the organ and choir in the rear-balcony)!! What Would Richard Neutra Say?? What Would G. Donald Harrison Say?? What Would Robert Schuller Say?? I'd recommend All the Above based-upon Move Ahead with Possibility Thinking as the  modus operandi and idee fixe!! Please remember that this is mostly free-wheeling Religious and Political Science-Fiction!! Even my interaction with Forum-Members sometimes involves me acting in a somewhat standoffish-manner!! They mostly don't communicate with me in my threads!! I've observed a voluntary-exile to keep the peace!! Notice the dysfunctional nature of USSS Book Ten!! It's sort of fun and scary!! Researchers Beware!!
    blue roller wrote:So we are sent out to check out an Aeolian Skinner one day and for some reason the blower switch does not work so we head on down to the Blower room to find out what gives and what do we find ? The Organist and his understudy are 'lubricating the Blower' . Yes , a likely story . I never found I Needed to drop my trousers to keep Mr Laukhuff happy.

    Lubricating the Blower . How many times have we heard that old chestnut ? Yeah right . No. nobody Bullsh**'s an Organ Builder and gets away with it . The pastor may believe it and the Ladies who do the altar flowers will believe anything they hear . But when you have been building  massive organs for any length of time , life holds no surprises anymore.

    Spend a week in the loft cleaning pipes and you get to see what the public never does . Its like being god without the spankings or lightning strikes. Organists. Talk about a breed apart.

    I got to sit inside the end of a 64ft open wood at St Paul's once. Nothing happened . I just sat in the end so I could say I Had. May the lord strike me down if I tell a Lie . He never seems to taser the priests for their inconsistencies , that's for sure.

    Post more Eye candy or I will sulk .
    Crybaby
    blue roller wrote:I like your new assistant and yes I can highly recommend her for the job. But its only fair to warn you that if an Organ Builder gets to her before the Organist there will be a few miles on the clock .

    Serious interstate Miles with only short breaks and long sweaty hours in cramped conditions . You can tell by the smell of sheepskin ,hot glue and shavings stuck in the lingerie.

    Dont worry though . Tuners never get Lucky . So that's one mess you wont have to clean up.
    blue roller wrote:How many Hot ET chicks have to appear on Sci Fi shows before the penny drops Eh ?

    I mean come on . No earth Girl smokes that hard . If vale got in the organ loft the fire alarms and sprinklers would go off and me with them .
    The "Ancient Egyptian Deity" seemed to say that a lot of Sacred Classical Music was Ancient but that Lucifer wasn't the composer. I might've gotten that wrong. I'd just like to know where all the Cathedral-Architecture and Sacred-Classical-Music REALLY Originated?! BTW, are you setting me up for something BAD?? I suspect some sort of orchestrated-meltdown in the near-future and I don't want to be anywhere near it. I'm attempting to end my activities on this website. I don't necessarily enjoy my lists but they might be important regarding "Getting Out of Jail" and/or "Saving Humanity".

    1. Read Job through Daniel (NKJV) straight-through over and over -- while reading the Whole-Bible (NKJV) straight-through over and over.

    2. Perform and/or Listen-to Sacred Classical Music.

    3. Carefully and Prayerfully Study Nature, Science, and Science-Fiction in connection with All the Above.

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    blue roller wrote:Dont worry Orthy , I really am not out to get you . It was many years ago now that I was a pipe organ builder . Great times with great people and as much as I like to bag the churches as institutions I cannot say all church people are evil . Funny ,eccentric , naive , well meaning but misled and many other things too.

    I know why you feel sad about the contradictions . Church buildings can be and often are beautiful places in Beautiful locations . I used to love visiting English and European country chapels . Not so much the American ones though , unless it was old school Episcopalian/Presbyterian. The best ones are built on sacred sites and the energy there is great .

    I love choral singing and sacred music . Bach rocks Hard core and so do guys Like Schubert .Schubert in G was my favorite mass . Mozart's requiem is gut wrenchingly awesome.

    The silly thing is the catholic Church in particular creates so much emotional pain with its absurd dogma's. I never felt comfortable in Catholic churches. To gaudy and chintzy . Its not natural to deprive male priests of the joy of partners . No man can live celibate without blow back .

    It needs to end , the madness of abuse . Its always funny how often the priests kids go bad to compensate for their parents denial . Saw that many times . Nobody gets away with living a lie , no matter how big the institution they hide behind. We often got preacher kids working in Organ shops . We whipped them in to shape as best we could but they were never much chop as craftsmen.

    I just want to get back to being busy so I dont have a bad excuse to post here . Im just killing time until the weather gets better.

    So much to live for ,so many adventures to be had . I still feel sad to see so many people living such dull uneventful lives . You only have to leave your home country for a few months and get yourself out there to make a massive difference to your self esteem , open your mind and face your fears. See those fears for the irrational waste of time they are . Conspiracy theories do have some substance but to dwell on them at the expense of the now is a terrible waste of time.

    I have traveled all my life and its easy for me , its in my blood . But for most people its just to risky .

    While you study the Bible I have to say there are many other books that work for me far better. CG Jung, Lao Tsu , all sorts of stuff really.

    i never ever experienced any spiritual ecstasy in a Church , but In Nature , many times. All the time now as I get older . I made the most of my youth and I dont regret it.  I had/have some amazing teachers and guardian angels . Real Ones.
    blue roller wrote:Its been a long day here so I shant say to much right now .

    This much I can tell you though from my own experience and that is that words and experience are two very different things . Using words to paint a picture or describe an experience is fraught with limitations.

    It took me twenty years of experience to understand Lao Tsu's Tao Te Ching but its a goldmine for me because the beauty of its cipher lies in its simplicity . You probably get that from reading the Bible and that's good .

    One of my Teachers was Ex British MI6 , we are talking top of the heap security clearance etc . She was big in to the King James version of the Bible but then it was used a lot as a cipher book too during the war because they would use certain chapters as the framework for the days cipher . Its a very handy book to use as a code master reference for obvious reasons.

    One of the reasons it was popular was because of the exquisite lyricism, flow and phonetic beauty crafted in to the verse forms by the best English scholars ,Bards and poets of the time . So yes i get what your getting out of it . The rhythmic structure and subtlety of the English language is without equal WHEN its is done authentically. When Webster created the first English American Dictionary he freely admitted that he sabotaged the English language and believed one day that his sin would come back to bite the American people . He did Horrific things to the syntax/ structure of English words. And it has just got worse and worse .

    So its a personal taste thing you see . English Humor has to be experienced first ,then written . You wont get it the other way around. Its must be sung and danced and dreamed and felt and embraced intimately ,privately . English is a very inward language . American English is seductive marketing and coercion. Americans do dreadful things to words . They put together strings of chattering verbage that lacks soul and warmth.

    This is why as a musician you feel the words fare more acutely than most people . I did try to teach some of the principles of this language to Pris but she lacked the subtlety of experience to really grasp it and got the wrong end of the stick . Very tricky using English English with non English people. Easy to get wires crossed. English is a dimensional language , not a linear contractual obligation/coercive word string as applied by Americans in particular .

    Good example is Claudia Black . She speak spatially and intimately at the same time. Very sexy yes ?

    Its like an empty Church at night  . Best time and place to play a harpsichord or Clavichord. It puts your hair on end.
    Thank-you blue roller. I'd love to hear your "Angel Stories"!! I tend to think that "Stupid-People" and "Bored-Angels" are the "Root of All Evil"!! Playing a Pipe-Organ in an Empty-Church ROCKS!! Being an Organist for Services sort of sucks (from my limited experience). Singing A Cappella in an Empty-Church ROCKS!! The magic is lost when they turn-on the lights -- and fill the church with miserable-sinners!! The Crystal Cathedral was at it's best when the choir warmed-up prior to the first-service!! I actually think I could've been a rock-star (if I hadn't been a Repressed Religious Fanatic -- Trying to do the Right-Thing)!! I'm Sirius!! Here is a message I received several years ago on one of my threads in the Mists!!

    I remember my first real concert was with B.sabbath summer 82 in hungary, we had to travel over 3000km to be on, and it was the end to my screaming around at our highschool-band-stagings. But earnestly, even as youngster i didnt vtrip on the metal, but was elevated by the human powers of 73000 fans and the vortex of the concert. See, it was incremental a energetic structure which was in line with what is given through the generations and build upon by all to refine and tune this motivational stimulus of life. Here you go and see what is there left from the surface populus, besides the pollutions. A glorious etherical lifeform, like a holo-kernel, stucked with the multitude and adapted to interdim layers ect...




    "Heaven And Hell"

    Sing me a song, you're a singer
    Do me a wrong, you're a bringer of evil
    The Devil is never a maker
    The less that you give, you're a taker
    So it's on and on and on, it's Heaven and Hell, oh well
    The lover of life's not a sinner
    The ending is just a beginner
    The closer you get to the meaning
    the sooner you'll know that you're dreaming
    So it's on and on and on, oh it's on and on and on
    It goes on and on and on, Heaven and Hell
    I can tell, fool, fool!
    Well if it seems to be real, it's illusion
    For every moment of truth, there's confusion in life
    Love can be seen as the answer, but nobody bleeds for the dancer
    And it's on and on, on and on and on....
    They say that life's a carousel
    Spinning fast, you've got to ride it well
    The world is full of Kings and Queens
    Who blind your eyes and steal your dreams
    It's Heaven and Hell, oh well
    And they'll tell you black is really white
    The moon is just the sun at night
    And when you walk in golden halls
    You get to keep the gold that falls
    It's Heaven and Hell, oh no!
    Fool, fool!
    You've got to bleed for the dancer!
    Fool, fool!
    Look for the answer!
    Fool, fool, fool!

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Researchers Beware. Parts of this paragraph are from around 2016 and other parts are from 2021. I am somewhat uncomfortable with some parts and very comfortable with other parts. However, I'll leave this paragraph "As-Is" for educational-purposes. Remember, most of my threads constitute Religious and Political Science-Fiction in one way or another for educational and entertainment purposes. Utilize YOUR Discernment. Everyone probably knows that Everything is a Lie but they also probably know that it's easier to look the other way. This site contains a HUGE amount of upsetting stuff but how many people really grasp the magnitude of what this all means?? What if Human-Civilization has been built upon a Foundation of Lies for thousands of years?? What if honest and complete disclosure would mean the end of Human-Civilization (as we know it)?? Hillary has been a very bad girl but what if each and every soul on Earth has been very bad, lifetime after lifetime?? I grew-up learning about a Judgment connected with the Second-Coming of Christ but I wasn't taught about Reincarnation. Combining the Concepts of Reincarnation, Judgment, and the End of the World (as we know it) is a HUGE Can of Worms. I'm tentatively predicting Massive-Disclosure and Societal-Unrest for the rest of this century (possibly including the worst wars and disasters imaginable) with some sort of an Idealistic-Reorganization in the Twenty-Second Century but what do I know?? I listened to Conservative-Radio throughout the 1990's and there seemed to be enough crime and corruption to put both Clintons away for a very long time. But once you become part of the inner-circle at the top you seem to receive a Teflon-Baptism. Nothing Sticks. Look at most all Presidential-Administrations!! The people who get hurt, are the honest-souls who try to do the right-thing, and speak-out against the crime and corruption (with no results whatsoever, other than being placed on numerous lists). I'm almost to the point of simply seeking to study the world, to determine where the business-opportunities are, rather than trying to make sense out of the madness, or trying to make things better. The idea is to neither hurt or help but just to capitalize on the opportunities which the madness produces. I grew-up attending the SDA Church and the Founders stressed Prevention and Natural-Treatment in Health-Care without charging a lot of money!! Well that's NOT how things are now!! Just the Opposite!! Money Talks!! I've tried to be open and honest on this website and what do I have to show for it?? It seems as if Kate and Cal from East of Eden have been running the world since the Garden of Eden and that they've created one hell of a business!! Resistance might Really be Futile!! If Aaron were placed in charge, things might REALLY Go to Hell, simply by having someone trying to Do the Right Thing!! The Truth is SO Overrated!! What Would Vala Mal Doran Say?? What Would Vince Foster Say?? Consider the overall systemic nature of our predicament (without making it personal). What if Lucifer and/or the Devil are really the Representative-Personification of a We the People Collective for thousands of years?? I've encountered quite a few famous people but they were in a different league from me. There were numerous opportunities I overlooked in my youth. I would've done things quite differently, even if this involved following the Hollywood crowd into moral-ambiguity (as much as I hate to admit it). I'm too poor, dumb, sluggish, and slow (especially since my stroke, or whatever it was) to fraternize with the hoity-toity (but it might've been)!! Notice my pseudo fan-fiction!! I honestly do it for answers!! I thought I was helping but if no one gives a damn, why try?? What if very-little is up to me?? What if I've been deliberately and maliciously hamstrung in a most miserable manner?? Perhaps someday we'll see!! Perhaps there really is something to an Ancient to Modern Investigative and Executive Judgment as a Galactic-Governance modus-operandi!! I shouldn't single-out the Clintons!! There's Plenty of Blame and Guilt for Everyone!! 'RA' told me, "Everyone is Bad!!" I asked 'RA' if there really was a Borg-Queen with an IQ of at least 500!! There was No Response. I asked 'RA', "How Good is Too-Good??" The Silence was Deafening!!

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thanks again for everything. I know my presence here has not been a cause of joy for a very-long time -- but I didn't think this uneasy-relationship would end in such a shoddy-manner. I'm not going away mad -- I'm just going away.

    Without one atom of cynicism, ortho, I hope you've come to know my style a little, so that you know I mean it, before you leave, I like to say, I'm having great laughs, at times, about your sense of humour and the way you're present in your posts. It seems to me, that for you, being such a gentleman, that must be a blessing and a curse both, mastering the skill of indignation in such outstanding perseverance. It continues to amaze me and amuse me at the same time, in a good way. You're showing me what it means to dance in veils as a you-man and encounter the 3d-human kind. Not kind. On a lighter note, can we expect to see you return soon? Or are you serious this time?  Lmfao

    I can easily picture you sitting with the Monty Python members here, making your point  Cheerful

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc
    Carol wrote:I love your sense of humor Oxy. I don't think it was anything personal. You know how computer severs and systems are - impersonal. Way in the past I used to get so pissed at how the system didn't work right. Then I had to keep telling myself, "It's just a machine. It doesn't care or have feelings. It just does it's thing." So moving on beyond taking what it does at a personal level I just practice calming down and patience - rather then smashing it and tossing it out the window. I lost an entire book once when my system crashed and burned so understand your frustration. The best way to save information is to email it to yourself.

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you B.B. and Carol. I don't trust the high-technology or the "people" who control it and us. But We the Peons seem to invite and facilitate This Present Madness. Jordan Maxwell has been highly critical of church, state, business, etc. -- but his conclusion was that the New World Order is a "done-deal" because of the deplorable-state of humanity. I think I understand how things work -- and it's reprehensible -- but perhaps things must be this way. My prophetic-speculation hints at things being cleaned-up in the twenty-second century -- but prophets and prophecies come and go -- while the bullshit continues. But I'm honestly not continuing. My internet research-project has ended -- and I need to privately digest the data -- and restrict my analysis to the territory already covered. This might be similar to "Fiddling While Rome Burns" but I've vowed to see this project through (probably for the rest of my life). You know -- various scholars specialize in various subjects -- and I'm attempting to specialize in one aspect of the madness -- for better or worse, I know not.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Perhaps the role of Politics, Religion, Medicine, and the Military is to "Tear Them Apart and Put Them Back Together Again -- for a Price -- a Very High Price!!" I keep threatening to start The Church of Orthodoxymoron of Latter-day Luddites -- for Fame, Fortune, Power, and Pleasure!! I hate to keep bringing this up BUT here is an interesting Whole-Bible Approach (which I have previously posted):

    1. Patriarchs and Prophets (Ellen White).
    2. Prophets and Kings (Ellen White).
    3. Job through Malachi (New King James Version).
    4. The Desire of Ages (Ellen White).
    5. The Acts of the Apostles (Ellen White).

    I've read probably a dozen scholarly books and papers which were critical of Ellen White and "her" books -- so I know most of the arguments and objections. I'm presently reading Ellen Harmon White: American Prophet (from Oxford University Press) by Terrie Dopp Aamodt -- Gary Land -- and Ronald Numbers. http://www.amazon.com/Ellen-Harmon-White-American-Prophet/dp/0199373868/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440172641&sr=8-1&keywords=ronald+numbers+gary+land

    I try to examine all sides of all issues -- but I'm frankly so burned-out and intellectually-challenged -- that researching the "right-way" is nearly impossible. Others will have to do the heavy-lifting. I am essentially recusing myself from the madness -- so don't get your panties in a bunch. This is only the beginning. I Am of Peace. Always. Just Kidding. I was going to stop -- so I'd better be a man of my word (or something like that). I MUST Stop!! They Have Ways to Make Us Stop!! Many Ways!! I probably won't write a book -- because my material is too controversial, upsetting, dark, and irreverent. Perhaps I could convince the PTB to Pay Me to NOT Write a Book!! Perhaps I'll have an easier time explaining myself to the High-Council if I just post on this little website -- and plead "Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity" -- but I wouldn't count on it. If I became a bestselling author of the unmentionable and the reprehensible -- I'd probably roast in hell for all eternity. If hell doesn't exist -- they might create one just for me -- and I wish I were kidding. Perhaps I should just slowly walk away from my madness -- and pretend that it never happened. Perhaps that might get me out of hell -- and into purgatory. BTW -- I've heard that Heaven is a Perfect-Square Inhabited by Perfect-Squares!! What Would John the Revelator Say?? One more thing. How does one eliminate Radicals?? Square Them!!
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm honestly trying to morph into a Silent-Academic. My Internet-Madness was a Cry for Help -- which was never really answered. My research, logic, and writing were extremely sloppy -- yet my quest got me to where I am today -- which is NOT a nice place at all. I wouldn't wish my life on even my worst enemy. I hate my life. I knew an organist who told me he didn't think or talk about religion anymore. I knew another organist who doubted the teachings of the church he worked for. I should've thought more seriously about why these people felt that way. I knew another organist who left the SDA church -- and became an organist for an Episcopal church -- and the rector told me that this organist knew more about theology than he did!! That particular organist told me that the SDA church looked really silly once she got clear of it. I came to the sad conclusion that all was not well with all churches and religions. It wasn't that I became atheist or agnostic. I just knew the truth existed -- but that it didn't exist in any complete form within any sacred or secular organization. Writing a book would make me an open-book to be examined and exposed in rather nefarious ways. I really think I need to simply walk away from everything related to my internet-quest. I think I've stumbled into something I really don't wish to participate in. I think I'm going to end-up being cold, hard, bitter, silent, and stoic. I'll probably become non-responsive regarding everything I've posted on the internet. This might be better for all concerned (and unconcerned). Now I'm going to make the coffee. Actually, I think I'll order a Tall-Mocha from Dutch Bros. Coffee!!
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    "What the Hell Are They Doing Up There??!!"

    I'm tired of being treated as if there is something wrong with ME simply because I have chosen difficult subjects to research. I don't get paid. I don't get praised. I don't get thanked. If I sang a song -- or threw a ball -- I might be rich and famous. WTF?? My frustration over being ignored and ridiculed is driving me toward solitude and hostility. I'm suspecting that a lot of us are superstitious and reactionary -- rather than open and thoughtful. Here is yet another suggested study-methodology involving the Bible and Ellen White. As you know, I have a love/hate relationship with both. This is not fun-stuff -- but I think some of us need to dig-deeper in this area of research.

    1. Read Job through Daniel (NKJV) straight-through over and over -- while reading the Whole-Bible (NKJV) straight-through over and over.

    2. Read Prophets and Kings (EGW) straight-through over and over -- while reading Patriarchs and Prophets -- followed by Desire of Ages -- straight-through over and over.

    This obviously results in Job through Daniel -- and Prophets and Kings -- being read twice as often as the other material. This is by design (on my part). Most of you probably think I'm a total nut-case -- and you might be right BUT I think this study reveals an "Inconvenient-Truth" which I don't really wish to talk about (at this point). This is very time-consuming and somewhat-boring -- so even I am having a difficult time following through on my own advice. I seriously doubt that ANYONE has done what I'm suggesting. You might wish to study the books and lectures of Dr. Alden Thompson (Doctorate from The University of Edinburgh) -- Dr. Graham Maxwell (Doctorate from The University of Chicago) -- and Dr. Desmond Ford (Doctorate from The University of Manchester). I am not a disciple of any of these scholars -- but they help place one on a level of thought which I think is essential to grasping the hidden-truths in this particular study. Pay very-close attention to writing-style -- ethics -- law -- and law-enforcement -- among other things (in all of the above). I maintain that Earth-Humanity has a HUGE Legal-Problem to deal-with -- but I don't wish to be specific (at this point). Let me just say that I find an Idealism side-by-side with Inexplicable Inconsistencies, Harshness, and Violence -- with very-little smiling, laughter, and joy. The Religious and Political Science-Fiction in my U.S.S.S. Threads helps to get-at what I think might be going-on -- but I am NOT achieving convincing-answers and satisfactory-resolutions. I think this sort of thing turns a lot of people into atheists and agnostics -- with a lot of true-believers in serious-denial. I'm honestly under-qualified, burned-out, and over the hill -- so I'm probably "good for nothing". The ivy-league theologians "get paid to be good". Get It??

    1. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=alden+thompson

    2. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=graham+maxwell&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Agraham+maxwell

    3. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=desmond+ford&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Adesmond+ford

    4. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ellen+white&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aellen+white

    I think we might be facing an unimaginable Holy-War (once people really begin closely-examining their presuppositions). Ignorant-Bliss might not be possible in the coming months and years. I'm trying to prepare some of you for what I think might be in our future.


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    blue roller wrote:The Mayflower families have a lot to answer for one way and another , not least being that insidious ,duplicitous rag of corporate horse XXXX called the US constitution. For a start its totally illegal because it discounts the true NATIVE Americans .

    America is a corporate slave colony . Its not paved with Gold, its paved with concrete . Its language is corporate slave language , not authentic English.

    America the home of the free ? Bollocks. Never was .

    Natural law or Common law is not written down for a good reason. Its subject to interpretation. I dont need some law dictionary to tell me when some corporate goon with a BS security clearance is f***ing me around . All it needs is a brief meeting to discuss the infraction then a jury of peers to asses the facts presented in the case . No courts ,no lawyers . Just a community acting impartially and fairly.

    Stars and prison bars . Like the yanks think they own the Moon because they stuck some lame ass flag on it .

    You know Orthy ,on paper , it all sounds so reasonable , just like any election candidates promises . But talk is cheap and laws enforced become tyranny's best ally .

    Its like That piece of XXXX book series called Dune . Just a rehash of the Messiah prophecy . Jesus in a space suit . F*** that BS. Melange /spice is just a pseudonym for Coke ,heroine.  Frank Herbert is just another corporate propagandist. As is that tool who wrote Enders Game . Trust a bloody Mormon to pump that trash.

    You see ,the thing is Orthy  these Twats take beauty and put it behind bars . If you want to f*** a princess on a prison barge  your already there.

    Everyone is a whore on this planet until they wake up and say no , no more .

    America is a story made up just like the new testament Jesus to make money and consolidate power . BUT the artists know this and encipher the truth in their propaganda so that when individuals start to think for themselves they have a subtext narrative to guide them.

    Kubrick was a corporate whore . Spielberg is a massive Ho . But they dont like it . They had a gun at their head.

    You cannot embrace truth at face value and get coherent answers . It does not work like that here . Truth is a painted whore but until you bed down with the whore your not going to wake up with her in the morning and see her as she really is .

    Can you forgive the whore for being as much a prostitute as you ?
    Thank-you blue roller. I used to play the organ shown below. It looks like Darth Vader -- and I have the same initials D.V. It makes me wonder. It really makes me wonder.  What Would Azazel Say?? I screwed-up. I was wrong. I've done enough damage. I'm really not going to post for a while (if ever) -- but please continue posting -- and I'll continue reading your posts. I'd particularly enjoy your thoughts regarding how a solar system should be structured and operated. I get the distinct impression that you might know a hell of a lot about that sort of thing. BTW -- was Charles Darwin a gifted student?? Who was your favorite human in all of Earth history?? I should've let the Ancient Egyptian Deity do all the talking (five years ago). They hinted that I was getting in the way with all of my questions and comments -- so perhaps I should run silent and deep. Please continue with whatever topics you choose. I will do my Very-Best to NOT Comment -- but I might occasionally group several comments together (with a font-size change) for easier reading. Thank-you SO MUCH for your Inside-Information and Trenchant-Wisdom!! Honestly!! One More Thing. Fukushima occurred five-years ago. That's all I'm going to say...
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    One last time -- I aspire to idealism -- yet the brutal gangs of facts and dracs I encounter are overwhelmingly-negative. The Bible is a mixed-bag. For some of the most encouraging material, try reading Job through Isaiah side-by-side with Acts through Jude in the NKJV. But even these books contain a lot of problems and perplexities. I'd love to move-on with clean-sheets of stone -- but this must be based-upon resolving the historical-difficulties. Once again, I don't endorse a lot of the material in my own threads. They are simply rough and rocky "Roads Less Travelled" which I have called a "Galactic Boot-Camp for the Big-Kids". I've pledged to silently-research my internet-madness for the rest of my life. I might write a couple of devotional-books -- but I wouldn't count on it. Let me just leave you with the concept of studying Job through Malachi -- and the whole-world from 1000 BC to 100 AD -- with a special-emphasis on Old-Testament Commentaries. I'm having a difficult-time finding Old-Testament Commentaries written prior to the New-Testament. Something is Very-Wrong regarding the Inter-Testament Period. I suspect MUCH Hidden History and Theology. I can't say any more about this. I get too emotional and frustrated. I frankly don't think we know much about anything historical and theological. I think "Disclosure and Reformation" might become "Extremely-Ugly". I've encouraged everyone (especially blue roller) to continue this thread without me. Don't take it personally when I don't respond from the shadows. Godspeed.



    blue roller wrote:Hang on just a godamn minute there Pardner . You think you can just ride on outa town without paying yer reespects to the Sheriff ?

    SHEEEEEit , Son !

    Get off your high Horse and drink yer milk.

    Seriously though Orthy , lets learn a basic lesson about not taking ourselves too seriously and get back to basics .Simplify your needs and you simplify your life. After all ,what does it profit a Dude to own a sh*t ton of stuff and live in fear of the Feds ? OR wherefore goest though Dude ? The righteous path is not a god complex in a pimped up recreational veeehickle.

    NO . It is the Lilly of the field without the fear and damnation attachment courtesy of the council of Nicea, my man.

    Jesus did not invent the Lilly , nor was he the first homey to check that sh** and see its beauty. Dude's have been wooing total Babe's with flowers for like ,Ever.

    So if you think Im just going to drag my as* through your thread while you chill on your lazy boy with a super size coke and fries your gravely f***in' mistaken. You want to truck with the Angels ? get a hard dose of Humility and learn to laugh at your pain. Otherwise you aint goin' nowhere fast Yo.

    Do you really think you could respect Jesus and take him seriously if he Rocked up in your drive way with half finished open heart surgery and said " I Died for you Bitches and this is how I suffer ! For what ?"

    If he knocked on my door looking for sympathy I would tell that asshat exactly what a total screw up he is. Not that he ever will of course .

    Nobody takes Monopoly Money at face value and tries to buy a Bigmac meal with it unless they are totally retarded. So why do people buy the Bible at face value and assume its gods voice ? Its just advertising for Horny inbred rabbi's who think they are chosen . Yeah right .

    Keep the plastic toys and gift wrap , I'll eat a Burger but it wont be from the yellow arches . That's where the s**t comes out .

    No , If I go face down on the Lilly to get a head scratch its because I give love as good as I get. Don't tell me you would not do the same for an assistant with the commitment. Eh ?

    Do ya feel me ?
    blue roller wrote:And one more thing . Speak for yourself first and use the other stuff as back up. Don't put the cart before the horse . Nobody wants to read scripture when they are taking a dump , unless they are anally retentive . Funny but true.

    You know what happens to people who repress their s**t . It comes out in bricks , hard and painful ,instead of smooth and easy .

    The body says what the mind refuses to see .

    What does your body need ? how do you feed it ? Are you getting enough sun and exercise ? These are serious questions now . If you want me to make an effort to communicate with you ,you have to answers the Q's.

    The best Therapy is Love and Laughter , but you wont get Jesus telling you that. No ,the Bible wants you running around in Circles processing their unresolved sh** for them.
    blue roller wrote:You know Orthy , its like this in the plainest simplest way I can think of to explain it . But here's the paradox before the exposition. Humans here dont want simple , they want complex . Complex laws ,complex wives ,complex religious observance ,complex lives. Why ? Because they think being complex makes them special and different. So you have a planet full of people all trying to be special and all ending up exactly the same.

    Complexity is just a fancy word for living a lie and using lies to prostitute and manipulate those around you . Call a human on their lies and they scream victim and play the pity card. Its all so very very predictable. The sameness of their excuses for failing to live an authentic and original life.

    Lets call the Universe the Ocean and your planet the Beach . Every day you make castles in the sand because your god tells you you have to to live . Eventually the King tide washes it all away and you have to start again. Same sand ,same beach ,same routine .

    One day a ship appears on the Horizon and heads for shore . It drops anchor and the captain rows to shore in his Dinghy watched suspiciously by  the people on the beach because he looks different. Strong ,free , independent ,somewhat aloof but with a kind and ready smile.

    The people have never seen a ship before but he tells them that if they use the right tools they can build their own ship and sail the infinite sea. They write down his words and he leaves. They build churches to worship the stranger , hoping it will bring him back but no one is allowed to build their own ship because that would be disrespectful to the memory of the stranger . So no ships but plenty of worship and competing churches.

    Eventually a clever young boy has a dream and walks away from the beach and in to the forest . He builds a small boat . When its finished , he rolls it down to the beach and makes ready to set sail . But the boat is seen by the priesthood and they confiscate it. Because if everyone starts building their own boat ,the priests will be out of a job . Sitting in their robes all day while the people slave for them.

    But the people remember this greedy act and start to question the priesthood. The priests continue to burn any boat they find . Then they burn the forests to make damn sure no one finds their way off the beach . Eventually people figure out other materials to use instead , so the Priests form a corporation called Jesus and makes everyone worship him because Jesus says one day he will come with a BIG F***ing boat to take them away forever.

    Pacified ,many give up building or dreaming of escape. They wait and wait and wait.

    Two thousand years later a small team of scientists build a boat that gets off shore but they don't tell anyone what they found . Its a secret . Jesus will come soon the Churches say .Dont loose faith .Keep on giving .

    In the meantime , many captains ,knowing the embargo on truth will get people killed or persecuted , meet people in secret and tell them this .

    'You can build a boat to get off the beach or you can build a boat inside to explore the sea'. The sky captains as they are called share with anyone who will listen , how to build the boat within. Very few persevere because they don't like the hard work and the ridicule from friends and family. Then there is the trust issue. Used to lying to get what they want, the people don't trust the sky captains for telling the truth . They waver and fall back in to their old ways.

    Soon enough they parrot the lies of the priest hood and the golden opportunity is lost.

    Now the whole planet is burning and even the sea Burns from the pollution. The priest hood and the people , crucified by their own greed and denial , kill the planet and all hope is lost.

    Because they chose the lie over freedom. They curse the captains for failing them and with their last breath they call them the Devil.

    The Captains and their people weep as the planet dies , at a loss for words ,because using words to reason with humanity failed .
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    blue roller wrote:Humans ,Earth Humans that is, are sadly the product of their 'god ' in all his fallible absurdities .

    But few there are who dare to question his authority by simply throwing away his book of laws and listening instead to their own conscience .

    No. They scan the Lords word endlessly trying to make sense of words that are designed not to enlighten and empower , but to confuse and enslave.

    But away from the madness of the Human Zoo , the wild animals and all the other creatures live in balance . They don't need gods instruction (read self destruction )manual because they actually don't go round killing indiscriminately like humans do.

    But for those not easily swayed by Judeo/ Christian/muslim et al fear mongering garbage there is the new age conspiracy dogma's to latch on to . But as above they take everything they read at face value . I read it somewhere so it must be true.

    None of it based on personal experience , just another blind route to a dead end street where lonely ,unfulfilled and increasingly neurotic people wallow in self pity . No resolution, Just recycled BS .

    Few Sci fi fans get the message in Sci Fi . They clutch at the fantasy part and reject the science . They talk a lot about making journeys and having adventures but they never even go to the station let alone get on the train ! They want their reality to remain just a fantasy.

    My efforts here are wasted and I came here to prove it just as I have at other forums . Humans don't want to think. They don't want to act . They just want to mope around all day and when confronted about their lack of courage ,they demonize those who are trying set them free !

    They really do prefer the Devil they know . They want him to love them and think that if they are pathetic and desperate long enough ,their dysfunctional 'father' will embrace and accept them.

    Yet after countless thousands of years of abuse they still put their faith in God. It wont work Orthy . You will take your misspent time figuring this out to the grave . Let it go .

    The Universe is vast beyond any ET Species Imagining . But they accept it . Humans dont. They want their prison walls to remain defined by laws and flags and excuses and fear mongering. So as long as  Humans insist on their personal space remaining inviolate there will be no Contact , no shift in perspective . Just the same old poor me diatribe.

    If you hit rock bottom when you are young and have the courage to say " I am not going there again ,time to move on" you can grow in to manhood/womanhood . You will grow in confidence and inner strength and attract like minded people to share life with. But no , most make excuses and just do the same thing again. Nothing cripples and enslaves better than self pity .

    I have never said ET Contact will solve your problems but because that's what humans want with contact they pout and sulk when they dont get the 'royal treatment'. Freedom IS Royalty. Freedom is sovereignty . But humans want the palaces and robes and silly rituals in churches to feel important.

    The only people on this planet who are free have no fixed abode . Tramps ,gypsies ,tribes people. Charlie Chaplin knew exactly what he was doing making people laugh with his Tramp. He ridiculed the Cops and the fops. He showed them for what they are. Tyrants drunk on power . Mean selfish immature cruel and spineless bullies.
    Thank-you blue roller. I have suggested that the Bible is a small-part of a HUGE Puzzle. I simply think it needs to be properly studied -- but not necessarily slavishly and stupidly followed in modernity. The Law Issue is very confused in the Bible. I come from a religious-background which emphasizes Ethics and Law -- and even Character-Perfection -- yet when one examines the variety of legal-standards in the Bible, it can be somewhat confusing and disillusioning. Then, when one examines the Behavior and Words of God and the Major-Players in the Bible -- the Ethical-Standard Seems Extremely-Low. I've rationalized that our Soul-History involves Star-Wars -- and that Earth-History must be viewed in that context. If we live in a Rough and Tumble Universe, this might help to explain the Madness on This Planet. The major-problem is verification. How do we REALLY Know Anything About Anything Regarding the Rest of the Universe?? Where is the evidence?? I find that I am forced to listen to Atheists and Agnostics regarding a lot of Honest-Analysis of Life, the Universe, and Everything -- and Then Give It a Religious and/or Supernatural Twist (or something like that). I've received virtually no conversation in Eight-Years which remained On-Topic and Honest. I've tried to be innovative yet traditional -- with zero positive-results. I continue to think that Possibility-Thinking Relative to Sacred-Scripture in the Context of Science-Fiction is not a bad place to begin making theology REAL. I have suggested the possibility of making Sacred Classical Music an Ecumenical-Foundation. The rituals of the Anglican-Communion and the Roman Catholic Church have probably helped and hurt equal-amounts of participants. There's much beauty and reflection in ritual -- but the symbols and meanings seem flawed. How many people are Genuinely-Honest regarding their Cherished-Beliefs?? Many would rather Fight than Think!!

    I continue to think that the Peale and Schuller Phenomenon offers many clues and solutions in modernity -- but not as a Stand-Alone New-Theology. I think the Information-War for Theological-Truth is just beginning -- and I think it's going to get really ugly and nasty. I've merely been attempting to offer an introduction to the madness for Sirius-Researchers. Unfortunately, there have been few or no serious and ongoing participants with me in my pseudo-intellectual quest. I've mostly created a study-guide for myself on someone else's website. This could all disappear in an instant. I really have absolutely nothing to show for eight years of misery. That's why I want to completely STOP. There's no point to any of this. Very few people are genuinely open and honest researchers. I can see why this world is as it is -- and why sustainable change for the better might be elusive. But we're running out of time. I believe we are on the brink of extinction (from a variety of sources -- and for a variety of reasons). I still think a Good-God got overthrown by a Bad-God in antiquity (for better or worse, I know not). Perhaps Humanity has needed a Bad-God with Tough-Love to keep people in-line. "What is one to do -- when to rule men, it is necessary to deceive them??" I don't know. But I don't think human-history has been nice at all -- despite the beauty of nature, art, architecture, and music. I predict that most religious-people are going to seriously lose their faith in the coming years -- and then slowly gain a more realistic and enlightened theological-understanding. I think this Holy-War is going to be Something to Behold. I've been experimenting on this website -- but my results have been dismal. My experiment has been much worse than an exercise in futility. I wish I had never tried to help -- and most people wouldn't consider this to be help. Most people are reactionary and hostile. A lot of people seem to be gearing-up for some sort of a stupid showdown. But I'm pretty-much finished -- so I won't be fighting. Sorry to disappoint some of you. All those meetings and training-sessions for nothing!! Sorry about that.

    blue roller wrote:Doctor Who ? The man who travels in a blue wooden box (carbon) that is disguised as a public telephone free to use ! Why does the simple truth in that symbol not hit home ? Because until you realize your own brain is a cosmic telephone its just a joke Right ? But its true and those who know and have experienced this truth will eventually see the message everywhere they look. Freddie Mercury was an Italian Opera singer before he was Freddie Mercury . He looked exactly the same ,as did his Co star , Sarah Brightman , with whom he often co starred in Film. Bohemian Rhapsody make more sense now ? The real Phantom of the Opera was and still is Freddie Mercury's Brother . Same features . During WW2 he was Richard Hope Hillary . Highlander . Who wants to live forever when love must Die ? The curse of the Immortals . Oscar Wilde wrote a book about one . Freddie released an album after his Death Called ? From Heaven. The stars. Lake Geneva , the place of new birth. Vevey , the source of life under the watchful eye of the mountains called the Pleiades. Its all written in the geography Orthy. Chateau Chillon. Montreaux, Mountain of the Eye . Time Flies ,tempus fugit . Swiss Watch maker Longines . Long Genes . Spear of Destiny wielded by Longinus. The arrow of time flys through the Bulls eye (stargate) and exceeding the speed of light ,defies time itself. The truth is written in the stars. Ava Gardner. Anagram of per ardua as Astra. Eduard . Edward . Know the language of the priest Kings and you will know all the stars in all their circuits. Language is augury , prophesying the future ! Co ordinates in words . Use the right words and you unlock the Telephone with the password. You envy me ? Why ? If you want the inside line you have to go inside . Why do you keep debasing yourself ? Is it because you think that by doing so God will love you ? That's programmed thinking Orthy , that's submission to a "god" who does not care about you. That's laying your son on the altar to appease a jealous god who hates you. You cannot mix new wine with Old . You don't put new wine in old skins. Let that Old testament crap go . Its Mind poison. I always get accused of being angry by those who don't want to see the simple truth . They want it complex like their 'god'. THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WITHIN YOU. I always get accused of hating and anger by those who feel threatened. Love does not stand idly by and watch suffering. It tries to help. But often that helped is rejected because the oppressed are addicted to pain and self hate . When are you going to give yourself the gift of love and let go of all that self recrimination ? The hills are alive with the sound of music and you are obsessing about evil . Get away from the madness and let the Queens give you some much needed comfort. Who is the most powerful player on the Chess board ? That's because the Queen IS the chessboard. How many seek comfort in the Church and find only arid stone walls echoing to the sound of empty chatter ,judgement and hate ? Natures temple is far more kind and forgiving than the Crystal cathedral of VANITY. Self pity and self love cannot coexist . Old wine turned bitter does not sit easy in the stomach or the mind . It burdens it . The well spring of eternal life is just waiting for you to pick up the phone and call home . But you keep making excuses Orthy . Stop masturbating to that chapter and verse gobbledygook and make that call. You have a perfect vessel but until you hoist sail your rotting in port. You don't play scrabble by looking in a Dictionary .You take the letters and form words and connections . THEN you are making progress . Don't do a Pris and bail out when the going gets interesting . Follow through .You have all the pieces you need to figure this out. I am not going to waste any more time here when the Owner deletes my thread without a decent excuse so make it count Orthy. Stop playing with your self and help yourself. The message is simple ,the message is love . But if you cant accept that then you are going round in circles of hate . Look around you . What do you really want ? A mature response deserves a mature reply . But Infantile ridicule always backfires on the perp . So Orthy there is not much more to say other than this. My humble opinion based not on reading and preaching but Experience. Its your life to live. Live it . Don't wait for approval here to feel validated . You wont get it . All you will get is obsequious chatter ,faint praise and empty platitude. Its like Church without the offsetting pleasure of decent music. The Old Testament is like corporate marketing ,it is corporate marketing. Big on promises ,short on delivery. Testament from the word Testes , the male regenerative organs. Weighed, measured and found wanting. Who cares who begat who in genesis ? What does it matter ? Some guy tells a group they are chosen and offers them the promised land IF they obey him . Uhuh. Sounds like tyranny to me. Sounds like the empty promises of every two bit fair ground hustler, car dealer ,realtor or politician. Dr Who yes , good stuff . Lots of good stuff in Sci fi .Stick with it Orthy. Dont weigh it down with fear. Who are you ? Who ,who, who, who .I really wanna know.......... William Bramley's book Gods of Eden , is a good book. Yes, I have read it and corresponded with him. Dont get bogged down in all the negative stuff though . Be the difference you want to see .Dont wait for it to be brought to you on a silver platter . Gotta lift that pack on to your back and make the pilgrimage yourself. Most Humans who are successfully contacted by their ET brothers and sisters do so after they have set themselves free by Living ,traveling and being themselves. They make themselves ready and open and it happens so naturally then. They dont have anything to sell or loyalty to demand . They are to busy exploring the universe and having a blast to waste time with that small town mentality. When people are happy and free they naturally want to share that with anyone they see in pain. There is nothing to take ,just a chance to give freely without any thought of return. Feels good to do that. Sure there are arseholes out there too but you only hang out with them if you want to be one of them . Do what makes you happy if you don't like being unhappy. Many don't know it but we love to make contact on the road . We do it all the time. Because that's when people are open to adventure and new experiences. Not bent over a bible in the Men's room trying to squeeze logic out of lousy mass marketing. No we dont beam people up. We come as we are and talk , make a connection just like anyone else would. Share a beer and lunch .Walk awhile and chat. All that midnight abduction crap is just fear mongering by those who know that fear is the only way they can keep you enslaved. Im not trying to shoot you down or demean you at all. I am saying simply this. You deserve to be happy . But you need to make the choices that will allow it to happen. I get banned and censored because I am telling people HOW to get free. Why ? Have to be quick because Im cooking dinner here . Its okay to be ignorant and innocent you know ? Its okay to wander around lost if you follow your passion and keep your mind open. The journey is not always about getting answers , its about living through the questions and growing in the process . I get monitored too but I dont take it personally . I will happily chat with an intelligence officer or Jehovah's witness and enjoy the interaction. The trick is not to hate on them , just let them be who they are while not compromising on your own sense of where you are going . I do tend to be very direct but not to offend or hurt . Its just a cultural thing peculiar to my people I guess . Direct frank and to the point . To my people ,diplomatic double speak is offensive and tiresome and historically we have good reason to be leery of it. So yes I know , most people on this planet are used to a very vague nuanced and subject to interpretation way of speaking . Where I come from its called dumb insolence and insulting. Passive aggression is not something that we care for. We all have Demons. We all have a dark side . But denying it only feeds it . When it comes up you have to see it , manage it and master it . Why is that ? Because we are all connected and there is just no getting around that . I like to use humor and irony to color my conversation and avoid upsetting people to much. So for that reason I place greater value on experience than words alone. How can you know the word until you have experienced it ? Fire ? Whats that until you feel the heat for the first time ? Life in a Human body needs to be adventurous to get the results your DNA needs to evolve . Its not an armchair kind of Body . Its a balls out go for it kind of vessel. Its like the old saying .Ships are safest in Harbour but that's not what ships are made for. Hey Orthy ! What would Blue roller say ? Assuming I am THE blue roller and not some imposter shamelessly masquerading as me . Well assuming I am indeed he, I would say this. All things in moderation except masturbation . But seriously (as far as I am capable of being so ) for me , forums are an occasional distraction when work is slow and the evenings are long . Right now I am way to busy to spend time reasoning with people who neither care or make any solid effort to put theory in to practice and actually live a life worth talking about. When your in a prison cell living out sensual deprivation for years on end the future is bleak indeed . No freedom , no choice , no reason to feel joy. Prisons are made of bars , spiritual dogma , fear, guilt and who knows what else people embrace to justify their pain . Walk away from the pain or stay the same . Most choose the later and put the blame on God, ET, or whoever. This much I do know from my own experience and observation of others. Loneliness is a killer of joy , the nursery of anger , low self esteem and futile pursuits. You know what you need . You always have . But are you willing to throw the dice and take a punt on the world out there ? Processing books and films and stuff is good , its a seed bank , but sooner or later you have to put down the manual and get your motor running Dude. The truth ? Truth is there is no one truth . Pick a truth ,any truth and if you need it to be true its going to be true until you grow out of it or try a new truth. Choice is truth . No choice is the absence of any perspective at all. Its the prison cell of speculation instead of the experience of freedom. People give up on themselves and hate on those who have what they lack . Lost count of the number of women/men who hate my wife and I for having what they lack .Each other. Hate ,ridicule, sneering contempt and censorship .The last refuge of the lazy and unhappy. You've got a great mind on those shoulders Orthy and I have really enjoyed you most recent thoughts/musings. You are to hard on yourself . I got a house to finish building and its full bore now. Its not the temple of Solomon or the house of Dave but I know its real because I am building it myself. Theory without practice is a virgin boasting about sexual conquest . Flogging the Bishop will get you off the rocks but I would rather be living the dream than recycling the fantasy. Go thou my son and do likewise. I love the Hot chick pics you put up here . Any chance of a few more ? Time to switch on the blower , pull out the choice stops and make the earth move. God did not give you an organ just to keep your legs company.

    Cheers

    BR
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    Who was that Lake Geneva Mystery-Teacher?? Consider the following Bible-Study:

    1. Old-Testament Historical-Books (17): Genesis to Esther (read straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations).

    2. Old-Testament Wisdom-Books (5): Job to Song of Solomon (read straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations).

    3. Old-Testament Prophetic-Books (17): Isaiah to Malachi (read straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations).

    4. New-Testament Historical-Books (5): Matthew to Acts (read straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations).

    5. New-Testament Wisdom-Books (21): Romans to Jude (read straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations).

    6. New-Testament Prophetic-Book (1): Revelation (read straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations).

    The idea is to internally-interpret each group. What if this is somehow an ancient IQ Test for Developing-Civilizations?? What are the Ethics and Law in each of these groups?? What if this study might turn believers into unbelievers?? What if this study might turn unbelievers into believers?? What if this is classic 'Divide and Conquer'?? I fudged a bit by calling group 5 'Wisdom-Books' instead of 'Epistles' but both terms seem to fit (in my reckoning). A few years ago, I noticed Chuck Missler commenting on the similarities between the Wisdom-Books and Epistles. I think we might be in the process of losing the whole Judeo-Christian enterprise regardless of how hard we try to preserve or destroy All the Above. This whole thing might come crashing down like a house of cards. A Harvard Divinity School Graduate privately suggested just such a phenomenon to me a few years ago. We might have to go to hell before we get back to purgatory in hopes of reaching heaven (figuratively and/or literally). I almost don't want to exist in light of what I am experiencing presently and fearing for the future. Its almost not worth it. If I were at least 50% sanity and capacity instead of 5% I might be inclined to give it a bloody-go, but as I go down in flames, no one seems to give a damn, so why bother?? I mostly wish to be as much of a hermit as possible. I might end-up in a 600 square-foot shallow-underground office-apartment in the mountains, not for survival-purposes, but just to not bother anyone or be bothered. What if Free-Enterprise implies that Greed is Good?? What Would Adam Smith Say?? The Billionaires Shall Inherit the Earth?? Jesus and the Meek Need Not Apply?? What if Corporate-Catholicism Trumps Traditional-Catholicism?? This basic theme could apply to ALL Religions and Church-Organizations. Should I Just Tell Everyone to Read The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times as Old and New Testaments in Modernity?? The End Might be Near (With or Without God and Religion). I've Never Felt More Desperate and Despondent. I Think the Elite are Pissing Their Pants as They Realize How Screwed Everyone Is. Especially THEM. Ten Years Ago, 'RA' Told Me, "Humanity is SCREWED." Honest. What if the 13% Graduate While the 87% Flunk?? What if the System of Rewards and Punishments is More Unforgiving Than We Imagine?? Should I try to analyze my USSS Book 10 thread on a daily-basis in this website?? But would even this be too-little and too-late?? I suspect it would be. Did the Deep-State botch the Coronavirus-Plandemic (for Noble and/or Sinister Reasons)?? What if NOTHING Will Ultimately Work?? A few years ago, I encountered a rather distraught unnamed billionaire who seemed to know me in more than a passive manner. I don't have the answers and I don't even know what the problems really are. I think I've been massively messed-with for years and I am in no condition to do much of anything at this late date. Don't make me into a dumbshit-scapegoat. Take your teleprompter and shove it up your @$$!! Most of you guys and gals are apparently soul-scalped, mind-wired, perfectly-possessed, cloned, drugged, programmed, scripted, etc. Signing the dotted-line with Satan was probably a BAD Idea. Satan doesn't like to lose.


    Satan appeared to two men, saying, "Sign my contract and you will be protected from failure." The two men read the contract and started to giggle and didn’t stop during the whole time Satan was with them. The two men signed the contract with big smiles on their faces. Satan looked down at the signatures and said, "Mr. Goldman and Mr. Sachs, you no longer have empathy." Satan left, and one man looked at the other one and said, "I wonder why Satan was buying the one thing we don’t have?" The other man said, "I wonder if he needs a loan to help him collect it?!"

    Sherry Shriner claimed that Satan had an office on the Tenth-Floor of Goldman Sachs. How Did She Know?? Consider studying Ezekiel and Daniel side-by-side with Hebrews and James in the NKJV. What Would Desmond Ford Say?? I am NOT pushing Dr. Ford's teachings regarding the Sanctuary and Soteriology. I am simply attempting to attract attention to the general-topics of the Sacrificial-System, the Substitutionary-Atonement, Inaugurated-Eschatology, and Consummated-Eschatology (With and Without the Apotelesmatic-Principle). What are the Soteriological-Implications of the Human-Nature of Christ?? What Would Gillian Ford Say?? Is the Sanctuary Central?? What Would Erwin Gane Say?? Is the Sanctuary a "Call to Moral Seriousness"?? What Would Fritz Guy Say?? Consider the concept of "Prophetic-Verdict" as a possible alternative to "Prophetic-Prediction". What Would Orthodoxymoron Say?? What Would an "Open-God" Say??  What Would Richard Rice Say?? What about Imputed-Righteousness and Imparted-Righteousness?? What Would Martin Luther Say?? What about Justification, Sanctification, and Glorification?? What Would the Heirs of the Reformation Say?? What about Foreknowledge and Freedom?? What about Responsibility and Freedom?? What about Rebellion and Freedom?? Does ANYONE Know What I'm Talking-About?? Do I Know What I'm Talking-About?? Why Am I Talking?? I Was Going to STOP!! Regarding My Posting, I'm NOT Working for ANYONE!! What Would Jester Terrestrial Say?? Who Does Blue Roller Work For?? What Would Miss Pris Say?? Imagine the second-image (above) with (left to right) Orthodoxymoron, Carol, Mudra, and Pris!! Just Kidding!!

    Compare the Ethics and Law found in Deuteronomy, Proverbs, Matthew, and Romans. Which portions of Deuteronomy and/or Proverbs no longer apply Post-Calvary?? Is the New-Testament Ethical and Legal Standard Matthew and/or Romans?? A famous-theologian once called theology "Mealy-Mouthed". Do people REALLY Think about Theology or do they have to be promised impossible-things and threatened with unimaginable-things to keep them working and paying their taxes?? What if people require a harsh-religion such as Roman Catholicism (regardless of whether it can be found in the Bible, or not)?? Is it easier to just eat the flesh, drink the blood, and get back to work?? Does "Doing-Theology" result in "Doing-Time in the Hot-Place"?? If Earth is ruled by an Ancient-Conqueror, one wouldn't want to get too uppity, now would they?? Is the New World Order really the Kingdom of God?? Notice how much (or how little) of Deuteronomy is found in the rest of the Old-Testament. Notice how much (or how little) of Luke is found in the rest of the New-Testament. But does anyone REALLY Give a Damn?? Has Administration moved-on to more sophisticated control and motivation modalities?? Have we lived under the Roman-Empire since the Second-Century B.C.?? Is the Roman Catholic Church just the Tip of the Iceberg?? Is Resistance Really Futile?? Must a Solar-System be run with an Iron-Fist?? Does Love only apply to the defeated for crowd-control purposes?? Love Your Enemies and Kneel Before Them with Reverence and Awe?? The Ancient Egyptian Deity asked me "Do You Want Another War??" Is there at least some truth in Jupiter Ascending and Guardians of the Galaxy?? Try reading Patriarchs and Prophets followed by Prophets and Kings in the context of Ancient Star-Wars!! Why does the Bible have to be "The Standard"?? If not the Bible, then what?? Civilization Stands or Falls in relation to how it handles Ethics, Law, Law-Enforcement, and the Military.

    Another thing. Please watch the "Dimensions" episode of Earth: Final Conflict regarding the Good-Sister and the Bad-Sister in conflict with each-other!! What if that's what this whole-mess is all about?? What if we are dealing with Lilith v Eve (with Adam = Humanity caught in the middle)?? Sun-God v Sun-God fighting for control of humanity and this solar-system?? Or is it bigger than that?? Damned if I know. Also, please watch the "Termination" episode of Earth: Final Conflict with Dr. Josephine Mataros. Notice especially the last five-minutes!! Dr. Mataros reminds me of Sherry Shriner (as crazy as that sounds)!! What Would Mr. Edgars Say?? What Would Mitchell Say?? What Would Edgar Mitchell Say?? What Would Anchor Say?? What Would Anubis Do?? What Would Carol Rosin Say?? Where Would Carol Live?? Carrollton?? In Ohio?? Where Would King David Live?? Kingston?? On Ohio?? What Would Brother Rich Say?? What Would a Renegade French Jesuit Organist Do?? What Would Bartleby Do?? What Would Loki Do?? What Would Pazuzu Do?? What Would Dr. Shiro Ishii Do?? What Would Dr. Hatake Do?? What Would Julia Walker Do?? What Would Luke Sky Walker Do?? What Would Dr. Luke Do?? What Would Dr. Who Do?? Who?? Anu?? I Know That I Don't Know BUT Why Isn't Ignorance Bliss for Me?? Should Anna "Bliss-Me"?? People Who Work in DUMBS Shouldn't Wear Hats and Shirts That Say "Eat Me!!" Reptilians Should Become Vegetarians (Eating VeggieHuman).

    I'm struggling with how much to know about the madness. There is a certain logic to just making-money and not worrying about all the BS going-on in the world. There is a certain logic to being deeply concerned and deeply researching the madness with the hope that one can change things for the better. There is the phenomenon of acting like lemmings or chickens with their heads cut-off and just going-along with FOX and Hollywood without looking at the news behind the news. There is the phenomenon of getting all-riled-up by Alex Jones (and others). My point is, what is a happy-medium in all of this?? I'm trying to get completely-away from the madness but I seem to be addicted to it with sort of a morbid-curiosity. I've pledged to spend the rest of my life reviewing the territory I've already covered, without "living on the edge" or "living in the fast-lane". I don't like what the past few-years have done to me. It would be one thing if something positive had resulted from agonizing over the madness but that didn't fracking-happen. Being a Moralistic-Neurotic is SO Overrated. Perhaps I should 1. Go Back to Church. 2. Rejoin the Republican-Party. 3. Join the Masons. 4. Become a Citizen-Spy. 5. Become a New World Order Manager. 6. Be a Real-Crook and become an Elected-Official. 7. Sell My Soul to Satan. 8. Become Perfectly-Possessed. 9. Become a Multi-Billionaire. 10. Watch Porn in My Underground-Bunker.

    As some of you know, I listen to Sherry Shriner each week, mostly because she makes me wrestle with the unthinkable, and because I think she intersperses the "crazy-stuff" with the "good-stuff" (but I don't know which is which). She claims that most major public-figures have been majorly taken-over with "cloning", "soul-scalping", "possession", etc. She claims that the "Real Trump" was "replaced" a long time ago and that he is a Jesuit. I frankly don't know and I'm pretty-much stopping trying to analyze the "crazy-stuff". She claims that child-abuse and human-sacrifice are commonplace in high-places but I take everything she says with a sea of salt. She claims that a combination of the Intelligence-Agencies and the Catholic Church run everything, which wouldn't surprise me (given my SDA background). But if the Church and the Agencies run everything, wouldn't that include the SDA Church?? I still read some of the SDA scholarly-literature (especially on the fringes) but I thought they were highly-compromised in the 1980's and I pretty-much stopped attending around 1990 but I still feel guilty concerning my non-participation. It often seems as if Religion is a "No-Win Situation". You're Damned If You Do and Damned If You Don't. They "Get-You" One Way or Another. Sherry speaks of Ron Paul as having been a "White-Knight Politician" as "Controlled-Opposition". Some say that Martin Luther served a similar purpose. Some say the SDA Church is a British-Israel Cult (controlled and financed by MI5 and MI6). Would that make the SDA Church "White-Knight Controlled-Opposition"?? I have no idea if that might be even partially true but NOTHING would surprise me at this point. When "Removing the Bad Guys and Gals" Always Beware of Worse Bad Guys and Gals Waiting to Take-Over!!  

    There were some interesting things taking-place between 1977 and 1985. Think about the movie "Oh God" in 1977. Think about Desmond Ford's Commentary on Daniel in 1978. Think about the Dulce-War in 1979. Think About Dr. Ford's Forum-Lecture on the Investigative-Judgment in 1979. Think about the Glacier-View Kangaroo-Court in 1980. Think about Ford's 1,000 page Daniel 8:14, the Day of Atonement, and the Investigative Judgment in 1980. Think about Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981. Think about Russell Crowe appearing in an SDA Commercial for Avondale College in 1982 (and his subsequent interesting roles). Think about Lucio Bernardo Silvestre's The End of the World: A.D. 2133 in 1985. Think about Dr. Robert H. Schuller and the Crystal Cathedral in the 1980's. Think about "John" in the First "V" Series. Think about the "Visitor's Center" in the Second "V" Series. In the 1980's the Top-Theologians in Loma Linda looked-like they had lost their best-friends. Dr. Robert H. Schuller looked-like the "King of the World". Positive-Thinking plus Self-Esteem equals "I Am God." You might not see my point in all of the above but it is somewhat significant regarding my screwed-up life. That's All I'm Going to Say About THAT!! I'm more burned-out, disillusioned, and despondent than anyone can imagine. I also feel highly supernaturally harassed and oppressed (without me being involved in anything creepy whatsoever). I've tried to post material on this website which leads the RIGHT People close to the truth, without turning them into Rebels Without a Clue. I've recommended "Learning Everything Without Doing Anything". It's easier that way.

    Once, as I sat in the Randall Visitor's Center at Loma Linda University, a lady sitting next to me said "We Never Do Anything". She was referring to a lot of our SDA prophetic-stuff, which when some of it was seemingly being fulfilled, we didn't capitalize on these developments. Others, outside of the church, seem to do a MUCH Better Job in this regard. I guess that's why I've participated in Project Avalon and The Mists of Avalon. I have No Idea who I'm REALLY dealing-with on this site but it keeps me on my toes, even though I might mostly be digging my grave (each and every day). My current hypothesis is that we've lived under a somewhat-malevolent one-solar-system government since the Garden of Eden but I obviously can't prove it. Anyway, resistance might really be futile, possibly for the rest of this century. I suspect some sort of an Idealistic-Reorganization near the end of the twenty-first century (possibly being completed around AD 2133) but Who Knows?? I frankly think most high-ranking Politicians, Clergy, and CEO's are absolutely-obedient to One Solar System CEO but what do I know?? I just want to forget about this nightmare and go back to sleep. Oh!! One Last Thing!! My Ten United States of the Solar System: A.D. 2133 Threads Are Sort Of What I Had In Mind When I Talked With Steven Spielberg's Stepmother (in Dr. Graham Maxwell's Sabbath-School Class at Loma Linda University) Concerning the Possibility of a Science-Fictional Life of Christ Super-Movie (Or Series)!! Walter Matthau's Son Wasn't Interested Either. What Would Paul Say?? Think About Paul's Phone-Call to Steven Spielberg in the Movie Paul. What Would the Mulholland Drive Cowboy Say?? Good-Night. Sleep-Tight. Don't Let the Bedbugs Bite. Sweet-Dreams...

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    Vidya Moksha wrote:I was going to comment on an oxy post. but I see it is deleted.. into the mists.. I will reply anyway, i didnt look to see if the post was copied into your missive.. I struggle to even open your pages.. my laptop is geriatric and my download speed limited to a poor mobile signal..
     
    I have been busy. there is much to do. Dr Doom keeps whispering in my ear about the immediate future.. so thoughts of doom 25 years ahead are somewhat luxurious.

    oxy, I hope you find a way back to health.. or can make the best of what you have. You know i am not at all religious but in hard times i do have a crutch.. i remind myself I am a facet of god, experiencing the universe,  my experience is valid, whichever way it goes. It does seem to help me put the universe back into some sort of context  if I need to. (In extreme moments a little ana pani sati never hurt)..

    You mentioned something about game within games, or illusion stacked onto illusion.. so mithras became jesus. The chinese have removed the tibetan holy days and replaced them with party /gambling /drinking holidays.. a way of subverting and ultimately diluting -destroying one system in favour of another..

    So we can be assured that history is fake for whatever reason, misinterpretation, copy error or deliberate acts of sabotage.  We can be sure religious texts have been written for political and not mystical purposes. Even the esoteric theosophies are the same, same 'dogma' runs through them.. all 'male' (universal energy) dominated.. it is possible to apply the teachings and remove the bias.. but you have to know it is there first. And to replace the male with the female is just to repeat the same problem..

    Back to Vogt, I think he fails to heed his own warnings about maths. It is a universal measure.. applicable to everything..and he warns us against its misuse.. and then, for me, he mis uses it by applying his mathematical patterns to various charts.. with a few fudge factors..

    But he's only trying to figure our the universe for himself and I admire him for trying,. most folk dont bother. And he has some interesting ideas. I hope to watch the first series this next week..

    i had a job one time.. to describe animal populations.. I ran multivariate statistical packages.. comparing every species to every other species at the same time.. the maths groups species according to their similarity.. and then the results are interpreted. This time the results were quite something, they told a coherent and obvious story, and even threw up the possibility of some links between species I hadn't considered previously. I was quite interested and worked long hours on this... to be told by my database manager : oops, sorry, I had to run the data into a relational database and i messed up the output.. the data I had was corrupt! All my ideas / observations. seemingly text book output, were invalid.

    I ran the stats again, on the 'correct' data and got another story that made perfect sense also, so i described that story instead and that ended up in my final report.

    I never forgot the lesson. I keep it in mind whilst watching Vogt's videos.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you, Vidya. Sorry about my massive threads and deleted posts. I'm not sure why I'm doing this. Perhaps the Matrix Made Me Do It. I'm half-joking and half-serious. If one does an overall conceptual analysis of Vogt and Torah, what is the result?? His detailed scientific stuff probably needs to be subjected to peer-reviewed journals and books. I'm not qualified at all in that regard. Regarding Torah, one could spend a lifetime studying commentaries and lectures, or just reading Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations. The possibilities are endless. I suspect that we can make all the above say whatever the hell we want it to (or don't want it to). Perhaps we just have to stew in our juice for all-eternity as we argue, rationalize, and power-struggle (or something to that effect). If I sound a bit bitter, it's because I am. However one puts things together, it's always wrong in the short or long term. Perhaps an Ancient-Unchanging Artificial-Intelligence Governance-System referees the madness in ways we're not privy to. Just a Hypothesis. I really want to not deal with this stuff. I think I've learned my lesson regarding Research and Reformation. It just doesn't pay to attempt to figure things out and make things better. Didn't Jesus say something about "Casting One's Pearls Before the Swine"?? Sometimes I think I'll simply watch an endless variety of documentaries without saying or doing anything. Or better yet, perhaps I'll just read a couple of newspapers of record and go for long walks. It might be easier that way. Thank-you for your concern regarding my physical, mental, and spiritual issues. Perhaps I shouldn't mention that sort of thing. Anything I say probably can (and will) be used against me, even if most of my internet-material is religious and political science-fiction. Logic and Resistance are probably futile. The system probably gets what the system wants. The Lord Works in Mysterious Ways. Vengeance Belongs to the Lord (but He delegates).
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for this thread, Vidya. I've spent some time on this topic, including books and videos by Douglas Vogt, but there's only so much I can digest and verify, so I've mostly moved on. Regarding 2046, there are some 87 year periods (fourscore and seven years) I find quite interesting (which coincide with 2046) but I won't comment on them at this point. Some of them are personal. I'm not sure what to make of this, but regarding the Torah (and the rest of the Bible) we're probably not dealing with a bunch of primitive-warriors and sheep-herders in the middle of the desert. We might not be dealing with God (or god) as we know this being to be commonly known. We might be dealing with Ancient-Technology, including Supercomputers, Robotics, Planetary-Propulsion. Weapons of Mass-Destruction, etc. This thing might be worse than we can imagine. Judeo-Christianity (as commonly known) might be a collection of Cover-Stories. Jesus said, "I have many things to tell you, but you can't bear them." In other words, "You Can't Handle the Truth." Unfortunately, we might be in the process of having the Truth crammed down our throats, regardless of whether anyone can handle the Truth or not. I continue my contextual-study but I have reached few-conclusions. What if HAL 9000 (for want of a better term) has run this solar system for millions of years (for better or worse)?? What Would David Bowman Say?? What Would Raven Say?? "@#$%^&*#$%^!!!!!"
    Vidya Moksha wrote:When Vogt claimed to have found the site moses used, I switched off a little. 2,000 year old structures are usual archaeology. And undisturbed all these millennia? Doubt it. Is the bible accurate? Doubt it. The torah? same. when were these documents written? and for what purpose? But global extinctions happen, and he could be correct in his cycle of 12,000 years. Ice ages happen. So where does the water come from to make ice? It wasnt a meteor or nuclear winter.. I believe Vogt is quite correct to look at the energy balance. It would take a lot of water vapour, which would require spectacular heat.. so his model works. Noah's ark.. did it have 2 of each species? of course not. Maybe the flood was slow, and predictable. or maybe they had prior warning?. Could previous civilizations have left coded clues? Possibly, but what about the 10,000 years before all modern religions? Such clues, left on high tech fabric /material.. or even on stone tablets? Have they been interpreted by someone? Maybe. Maybe history / fantasy called him Moses? Obviously a message from 'god' (who could just be someone from a previous civilization) .. There probably was a flood, probably the earth does cycle between ice ages and mass extinctions, possibly someone left clues about this in the past. I like Vogt's models but he takes the religious texts, darwinism, written history etc too literally.. Maybe he did find a code in the Torah?  
    orthodoxymoron wrote:In general terms, I'm suspecting cover-stories for cover-stories for cover-stories for thousands (or even millions) of years. Regarding Vogt's theory of a catastrophic solar-event in or around 2046, I'm wondering if there is an Ancient Artificial-Intelligence and Planetary-Propulsion System which might be Cyclical in Nature. Consider Isaac Newton's Prophetic-Wanderings which include the possibility of the World Ending as early as the mid to late 21st century. A very-intelligent Individual of Interest told me that All Religion was BS. But what if All Religion involves cover-stories for cover-stories for cover-stories, or conflicting-delusions, if you will?? Consider "Four-Score and Seven Years Ago." Consider 1958-59 and 2045-46 and 2132-33. Consider the Earth-Crust Displacement Theory of Charles Hapgood. Consider the movie 2012. The Quest for the Historical Rabbit-Hole might be more illusive and disillusioning than most of us can imagine. A lot of us should probably cease and desist before we go nuts and/or are made to shut-up. Sorry for being blunt, but I fear that God Got Me and/or the Matrix-Mediatrix Made Me Do It (or something to that effect). I keep heading for the exits with a lot of recapitulation along the way. I'm working on my old back-up car and things aren't going well, so I'm in a bit of a mood. My medical financial problems are resolving nicely but my core physical, mental, and spiritual difficulties are worsening exponentially (by accident and/or design, I know not). Researchers and Reformers Beware. We Might be Dealing with Men of God Who Deal with the Ancient-Matrix!! Who Knows?? The Shadow?? Consider Daniel 7-12 interpreted by Daniel 7-12 (but don't expect it to make you happy). What if the Sanctuary is Cleansed, Vindicated, and Restored to It's Rightful-State in a Cyclical-Manner involving Ancient Artificial-Intelligence and Planetary-Propulsion?? The Deep-State might be hinting at how $crewed we are. Consider Matthew 4 and 28 along with 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. I Can't Take Much More of This. I Need to Stop. They Have Ways to Make Us Stop. Many Ways. The Horror.
    Vidya Moksha wrote:The thought occurs... if an advanced race wanted to warn the survivors and leave clues for the next world re-builders... why do it in a complicated code? Why hide the 'secret' somewhere?

    Surely, trying to teach folk who are back to the stone age, and will evolve communities over millennia.. then a more simple pictorial version would be the best way?

    unless such things did exist of course, and were gathered and secreted away...

    I am sufficiently outside of the kabbalah and related, including Torah, to be bothered to look further. For me, it just gets too dark, and I cant really explain why.. more of a feeling.  He may be onto something, but I dont care enough. I have much better things to be doing now.. I could believe the hebrew origin he suggests.

    and symbolically comparing an apple cut in half with the torus he used to create the theory, then link back to biblical stories of adam and eve..

    more mental masturbation on his part? or maybe he is onto something?

    I got into this info from a video Carol posted about pole shifts resulting in 90 degree axis shift.. Vogt claims this is nonsense and has no supporting data. I saw another end of world date for a couple of years hence..are they trying to wear us out? Become blasé? ..

    all new to me.. i am curious but not driven for the info..
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I agree with your post, Vidya. I just remembered that as a youth I sang with an informal group who visited a veterans rehab facility once a week to help lift the spirits of the physically, mentally, and spiritually wounded. It was often led by the son of a prominent theologian. His father wrote books which were often rather dark and conservative. The son later became a world-renowned Leviticus scholar with a PhD from Berkeley. Can you imagine studying every jot and tittle of LEVITICUS?? Wow!! Strongly supporting or rejecting the Bible now seems somewhat problematic to me, especially when dealing with the general-public. I've been passively creating strange threads on this website which are decidedly pseudo-intellectual and NOT for the general-public. I mostly don't post on the threads of others. I often delete and move posts I've started, as I recently did on this thread. It seems as if a lot of this stuff is mental and spiritual quicksand (at least for me). A prominent atheist contends that if there were an actual God, communicating with humanity, there would be a proper standard and narrative to follow, without ambiguity or obfuscation. I suspect an ancient to modern divorce between divinity and humanity wherein man might've been playing god for thousands of years. This world often seems dark and violent. The rabbit-hole often seems like a bottomless-pit. I've tried to create religious and political science-fiction within this website without publishing anything, even though I need the money. I just can't imagine cramming this stuff down the throats of people who have been misused and abused by the gods, goddesses, and children of the gods (for want of a better term). I'll try not to post here. It's just too dark and problematic for me to spread the joy (so to speak). Cheers.
    mudra wrote:I haven't managed so far to complete the series. It seems I became disinterested. I understand what you say about This man Vidya and think you it expressed much better Than I would have been able to express it myself. On another angle lets suppose this clock is ticking and these mega cataclysmitic events happen. Wouldn't it be something as natural  as death is ? Only in these particular instances on a collective scale. Something to trust for its " therapeuthic "value rather than to counter and fear. Imagine how boring a life or game that goes on and on would be. Its like wearing the same costume all the time. I came across these profound words lately:

    " . Ultimate Truth cannot be expressed in words; however, the false can be identified and exposed, thus furthering the quest. And so the game is started and carried on until complete stand still,  Pure Consciousness is reached, at which moment ultimate truth unveils itself.
    Vidya Moksha wrote:ok.. so it is a bit clearer for me now. Vogt is using kurlian photography to prove his theory is correct. But it doesnt !

    The famous photographs where parts of leaves are cut but there is still something showing in the photo, a light source from where the matter used to be. Vogt claims that there is more than just matter (yes, that's true) and that 'something else' 'must' be information .. well, no that's not true.  

    yogic philosophy recognises several bodies, the outer physical sheath and more subtle inner sheaths. Yoga also claims that everything is comprised of prana, and prana runs through subtle channels called nadi. Perhaps the photography is capturing the subtle bodies.. perhaps the nadi remain intact for a time after the physical /gross body has been removed?

    so there, from yoga, are two more theories that fit the photograph.. Vogt might be correct, but he might not.. The chinese qi / chi system would provide another explanation. I dont know which is correct, but for me it is not Vogt.

    He is further using his theory to prove we are in a created universe.. like some giant super computer.. He uses his 12,068 year cycle to prove the universe is created..because of the 'clock' cycle.

    I don’t get it.. if he is looking for a cycle, just measure day length,, isn’t that cycle enough? Or the moon? Are all these cycles proof the universe is created?

    Well, no. I think he is too literal in his thinking.  He criticises maths and then bases his theories on maths equations..

    Nope.. not for me.. he brings up some interesting  data but I question his interpretation of his data..

    His data is pretty impressive though.. and he could well be correct in predicting the next end of the world in 2046. His data is sound. He has a good brain.. but he lacks imagination or any mystical input.. too much male energy .. and yet he talks of playing the violin to train his brain hemispheres.. I recommend he reads some of the more detailed yoga or eastern texts.. it would give him a bigger picture of the world.

    but, what do I know? Not much..

    I trust his data. I think he may have found the extinction event cycle.  As for the rest, it is curious and an alternate and reasonably coherent view.. but I don't see the universe that way.

    I will skip the entire series but will watch more of series 4, concerning the next solar nova.

    I did find reference to more researchers in this field but haven't looked further yet..Ben Davidson at Suspicious Observers, Diamond with Oppenheimer Ranch Project
    orthodoxymoron wrote:What if there is a 12,068 year-cyclical solar-system based-upon a supercomputer-matrix and planetary-propulsion in conjunction with a galactic soul-school or Disneyland of the Gods?? One E-Ticket equals One 12,068 Year Ride Climaxing in the Great-Reset when the Sanctuary is Cleansed, Vindicated, and Restored to Its Rightful-State?? What if ancient-technology is progressively introduced until extinction results (with freewill, of course)?? What if changes in the sun have nothing to do with this?? I spoke with a professional-astronomer regarding an immanent Nova. He thought it was BS. I hate to say it, but I'm becoming more intuitive and conceptual than religious or scientific. Again, I need to STOP.
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    Vidya Moksha wrote:What if you are completely correct??

    it could be.

    Vogt claims we are living inside a quantum computer.

    The impending nova would be required to produce sufficient heat to create sufficient water vapour to create sufficient snow...which would produce the ice.

    I am convinced that part is close to the truth, Ice ages dont just appear from nowhere, they need a corresponding energy balance.

    As for the rest?? who knows. Vogt is consistent, and his model works for him..

    can we. as humans (I presume Wink ) actually EVER fathom what is going on?
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I don't buy Simulation-Theory but I suspect Perception-Manipulation. Over the past dozen-years I keep repeating, "I Know I Don't Know." It's not satisfying or gratifying but "I Can't Get No Satisfaction." Now I mumble and stumble into the sunset of my pathetic existence. "Oh Wretched Man That I Am."
    I've been attempting to take sort of a "Friend/Enemy" approach toward just about Everyone and Everything, wherein even the Worst of Worst might have Something Positive to Offer, and where even the Best of the Best might turn-out to be the Worst of the Worst. I have attempted sort of a Dynamic-Neutrality wherein I imagine being able to converse with just about Anyone (Anywhere) without being sucked-into Nefarious Black-Holes of Deception and Manipulation. I keep attempting to expose myself to material which I find highly-objectionable. Consider the following study-list as an alternative-approach to the Whole-Bible. I keep suggesting that there might be a Significant Missing Old-Testament Commentary Written During the Inter-Testament Period.

    1. Patriarchs and Prophets (Ellen White).
    2. Job through Malachi (New King James Version).
    3. Prophets and Kings (Ellen White).

    The idea is that these two E.G. White books provide a kinder and gentler approach to the Historical-Material, written with the Editorial-Voice of a Strong-Woman. All the Above seems to be written in a Royal-Model Lawyer-Like Manner. I doubt that anyone will read these sources in-order (straight-through, over and over). I'm NOT endorsing every jot and tittle in this study but I think some of us need to master this material. I'm NOT conducting an Evangelistic-Crusade. This is simply another installment in my Unconventional Mental and Spiritual Exercise for Sirius-Researchers. This is for the "Big-Kids".

    blue roller wrote:My mentor ,my tutor and friend was by any measure as great a man as he was  humble.

    Over the course of many years he taught me to see by urging simplicity in life . Though very wealthy himself on paper he achieved all his work in a cozy ground floor garage overlooking Lake Geneva, not far from where Perce Byshe Shelley Drowned in the open water .

    During the war he was among those master minds that defeated Hitler by outwitting his intelligence network and his technology. He was the friend of many enlightened writers such as Douglas Adams (Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy) and one of the guiding lights behind the Monty Python Team (He did a cameo in Life of Brian)

    I owe him so much . He encouraged me to travel , to change my perspective often .See things from different angles to get the bigger picture. His Library was full of precious books on every subject and his voluntary work informing diplomatic missions of impending false flags saved thousands if not millions of lives . Charlie Chaplin was a close friend who lived just up the road along with Freddie Mercury . This guy was more connected than god and infinitely more humble.

    His message was in the end very simple and that message was love . Beauty is truth ,truth beauty. See beauty in all things .

    You can dress up a Whore to be alluring but in the end you get only the semblance of love , not its substance. The church dolls out beauty in controlled amounts to the deserving. Nature will give you all you ask for if you respect her .

    That's the difference between the Church and the natural universe. Slavery or Freedom . Your choice .Always was.
    It's too late for me. I'm too old and frazzled. I know exactly what sort of person you're talking about and I envy such people. As it is, I mostly would like to just retire to a small office-apartment in the mountains, probably with two levels (a room with a view, sort of like a lookout-tower except without the tower) and (a fortified-basement to prepare for the end of the world). The total square-footage would be 600 sq. ft. A kick@$$ computer with a Satellite InterPlaNet Connection (with an Absolute-Access Password) would be a MUST. I'm sort of kidding and sort of Sirius. At one point, Charlie Chaplin lived next to the location of CBS Television City in "Hollywood". My father worked at CBS, and we'd drive-by that spot in a 1959 Ghostbuster's Cadillac!! Siriusly!! What Would Dr. Venkman Say?? I'm currently suggesting obtaining a thin New King James Version of the Holy Bible and reading it in every conceivable location and situation. I've read my 1928 Book of Common Prayer at Organ-Concerts and Car-Races!! I'm NOT Opposed to Church and Religion BUT I Clearly and Painfully See How Screwed-Up That Whole-Scene Is!! A lot of the Bible is inexplicably harsh, violent, and unethical, which is why I keep suggesting reading Job through Isaiah side-by-side with Acts through Jude, regardless of how much BS and Historical-Fiction is contained therein. I simply think this is essential reading. But I'm resigned to walking completely alone, even if this drives me completely-insane. I honestly think I'll get saner and saner as the world gets crazier and crazier, such that I'll end-up completely-sane in a completely-insane world, which will put me in some Government-Nuthouse (probably in Bethesda, Maryland). What Would James Forrestal Say?? Just give me a Sexy-Psychiatrist!! What Would Dr. Melfi Do??

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    "Why Do You Always Make Me Read the King James Version??!!"
    blue roller wrote:Pris the thread Killer takes her exit having done the very thing she despises in others .

    Not content with censorship , she then turns to slander and unable to retract the things she experienced/claimed on the Contact thread ,has it removed and boasts about it . Well there is the pot painting the Kettle Black.

    How quickly that face changed .

    So disappointing and yet so very typical.

    Predictable ? Yes , sadly all to predictable .

    Is this why Humans are rarely ever Contacted for any length of time ? Long enough to effect meaningful progress ? Yes, very much so . Because there is always an excuse , always a tantrum when they don't get to keep their cuddly toys and have to grow up . And now when humanity faces extinction they deny the existence of the very thing they demand proof from. Because the proof provided does not fit the their boring tight little shoe box life . It does not come gift wrapped with cutesy fluffy kitten pictures and safe non threatening politically correct dietary injunctions . Its inclusive rather than exclusive. It is tolerant rather than fanatically obsessed.

    The proof says you cant live with one foot in the prison and one foot in the free universe. You cant hedge your bets on this one. But being cowards , humanity at large prefers the addiction to self determination.

    Only at the end , when the the spirit starts to lift out of the dying body they think is their real self do they scream in despair as they realize they left it to late. Without the wings to fly strong and free they get sucked down by the awful gravity of fear and hate . In to the abyss again.

    You can only reason for so long with an addict . They either master it or return to it. Rock Bottom is usually to late to undo the damage done though they finally see the error. No wonder the Angels weep. No wonder they walk away shaking their heads and lost for words .

    Why do Humans punish themselves and each other without end ? Lack of love.
    Carol wrote:Indulging in a rant at Pris's expense BR? How so very human.
    blue roller wrote:Still no excuse for withdrawing my thread despite your EXPLICIT PROMISE NOT TO Carol . How very human of you . How very like PA .
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    Carol wrote:Promise? Do you have the word "promise" in any communications? The issue is you attacking Pris. She started the thread so it was "hers".
    A bare faced lie on top of deflection Carol ? Your really flying the PA / ATS flag now !

    Funny how ATS comes up in the Search logs as I dial in to this forum. Well doesn't that tell it all . Turns out Mists is just another dead end, red herring clearing site for COINTELPRO.

    My Thread Entitled Contact with Pris was authored by and started BY ME . Not Pris . It was addressed specifically to her, not authored by her. The title itself makes that clear.

    Are you people that desperate now ? Is this how low you have to go to keep the lid on ?

    You gave me your commitment that my Voice would not be deleted from this forum and yet you did it anyway . By stealing authorship and giving it to Pris.

    But now you have withdrawn my words to cover up . Says something doesn't it ?
    Carol wrote:Sorry.. you're right. You did start the thread.  However your attempt to stir up a tempest remains in the teacup.

    Haven't you figured out why most of the members won't engage (post in response) with you any longer? You have a behavioral pattern of insulting them on a regular basis. And there have been a number of complaints with regard to your behavior in PM to me. If you wish to leave please feel free to do so.
    I never cease to be amazed at how petty and childish "Love and Light" can become. I've seen this sort of thing happen over and over again. Things start out so nice and sweet but it isn't long before things get nasty!! It's so sad, that it's sort of funny. Once again, I just make this online-stuff part of an ongoing science-fiction adventure!! I continue to be troubled by  problems relative to research-methodologies (and the lack-thereof). It's not so much the conclusions reached which bother me. It's the manner in which we reach those conclusions which worry me. How open are we to opposing points of view?? How open are we toward "Problem-People"?? How open are we toward "Problem-Angels"?? How open are we toward "Problem-Deities"?? How open are we toward "Problem-Aliens"??

    I just learned that John Steinbeck started working with the CIA in 1952, the same year he wrote East of Eden. I have suspected that this novel hints-at a very-real Ancient Royal-Family, possibly in Ancient-Egypt. I call that story East of Giza. I have suggested that Adam and Aaron were overthrown by Kate and Cal, and that they have ruled Earth since the Garden of Eden. Obviously, I can't prove it, but I think it. I have further speculated that Adam and/or Aaron have unexpectedly reappeared (in the twentieth-century) with possible Dr. Who and/or Jupiter Jones parallels. I realize this is far-fetched BUT in the confines of my-mind there is a strengthening-case based upon rather-thin evidence but still quite-alarming. I'm too tired, miserable, depressed, and nervous to repeat all the evidence but if you REALLY study my ten United States of the Solar System threads, I think you'll be amazed. I've been purposely vague and illusive with a lot of things. I guess it's been sort of a game of letting those who already know Know That I Know Too!! I realize that I'm just scratching the surface of some very-nasty scabs and I've purposely been rather slow and passive in my pursuit of the truth. So far, I don't really give a damn, other than that I think humanity is on the brink of extinction, and that I might be some sort of a Cosmic Fall-Guy!! I suspect that Disclosure might consist of a series of Unexpected Build-Ups and Tear-Downs (with devastating-consequences). I might need one of those shelters (similar to the one in the first image below) if what I'm suspecting is even partially-true but I get the sinking-feeling that no-one in this solar-system is happy to see me. I might have to build the bunker myself!! But honestly, I don't think there's anyplace to hide, especially if EVERYONE is out to get me!! If I write a book and sell my house, I might be able to afford a 600 Square-Foot Shallow Underground Civilian Base in the mountains!! That might keep me alive for an extra three-weeks (if I'm lucky)!! Consider the following possibilities relative to East of Eden:

    Adam and/or Aaron = King David = Father = Archangelic-Equivalent??

    Cal = King Solomon = Son = Archangelic-Equivalent??

    Kate = Queen of Sheba = Holy-Spirit = Archangelic-Equivalent??

    What if Adam and/or Aaron never came to Earth?? Remember, in Earth: Final Conflict, Ma'el never came to Earth. Watch that Richard Carrier video (a couple of posts back) where he speaks of a supposedly-fictional account of an ancient Crucifixion precursor (on the Moon)!!  What if that REALLY Happened??!! Don't forget the Dr. Who Trial of a Time Lord and the 1980 movie The Changeling. Consider the following study-list:

    1. Job through Daniel (NKJV).

    2. Romans through James (NKJV).

    3. Sacred Classical Music.

    I'm sorry things didn't work out as well as expected. Did Earth-Humanity rebel against their Creator?? Is Earth a Planet in Rebellion?? Was a Verdict Rendered Against Humanity?? I will be silently wondering about such things but I think the time for talk is over. I suspect a Final-Judgment and/or Final-Conflict sometime during the remainder of the twenty-first century. My grief regarding all of the above is beyond-belief. I obviously have NOT connected with the members of this forum and I'm obviously not attempting to win-friends and influence-people but I think I could've done the PR thing quite effectively, and perhaps I should've. Anyway, what's done is done, and now I should probably just be a good-loser, and congratulate the Champions of the World, and move-on to another solar system. Actually, they're probably the Same Guys and Gals who were the Champions of the World in the Garden of Eden. Some things never change (millennium after millennium) but perhaps they should. Perhaps they will in the twenty-second century. The Ancient Egyptian Deity said "I've always remained one step ahead of humanity!!" Perhaps in my next-life you-guys might wish to give me a Life-Long Publicist for my First-Birthday!! Things might work-out better that way!! Actually, I might NOT have any future whatsoever in this solar system. That wouldn't surprise me one little bit. Consider the following Study-List for an alternative-approach to the Messiah:

    1. Job through Isaiah (NKJV).

    2. Acts through Jude (NKJV).

    3. Prophets and Kings (Ellen White).

    4. Handel's Messiah.

    Remember that strange message I found in my word-processor, claiming that I wrote 37 books in antiquity (5 of which made it into the Bible)??!! I tend to doubt that message (even if I DID write significant-books in antiquity). But what about an Inter-Testament Old-Testament Commentary?? This seems to be a "missing-link". What if the above list hints-at an "Inter-Testament Literary-Messiah" who wrote more than they preached?? What if there is a Hidden "Garden of Eden Messiah"?? What if there is an "Isaiah-Messiah" named "Immanuel"?? Is it blasphemous to consider as many possibilities as possible?? Why is it that religion often insists that members "Just Get With the Program" because "That's Just the Way It Is"??!! Why does religion seem to consist of legion "Patched-Together Theologies" which can be "Proved from the Bible" yet which don't "Flow from the Bible" especially when following strict Grammatical-Historical Hermeneutics?? I continue to wonder where "Jesus" is in the Old-Testament and where the "God of Job through Malachi" is in the New Testament?? Is the Holy Bible a direct-result of some sort of a "Tower of Babel Verdict Against Humanity" to keep things-religious in a "Confused-Turmoil"?? Is the Verdict an Imperative That Humanity Will NOT Be Allowed to Succeed and Survive?? What if ALL of US (on a soul-basis) were VERY-BAD Boys and Girls in Antiquity?? It Makes Me Wonder. It REALLY Makes Me Wonder. The Horror. I continue to consider the Whole-Bible as being the sum of the following parts:

    1. Genesis through Deuteronomy.

    2. Joshua through Esther.

    3. Job through Song of Solomon.

    4. Isaiah through Daniel.

    5. Hosea through Malachi.

    6. Matthew through Acts.

    7. Romans through Jude.

    8. Revelation.

    Try treating each of these groups as "Stand-Alone Religions" and see what you come-up with. What would the "Twenty-Eight Fundamental Beliefs" of each of these groups be?? This might be a more important study than you think. In my SDA background, I'm a bit concerned that Ellen White didn't do a thorough verse-by-verse analysis of any of these groups and she often took editorial-liberties which were quite eloquent and well-developed, yet which did not seem to be the result of grammatical-historical interpretation. Did she have access to a "Better Bible"?? Who was the angel she supposedly received instruction from?? Gabriel?? Michael?? Both? Others? Should Theology in This Particular Solar System be Angel and Archangel Centered?? Are we REALLY dealing with the Almighty God of the Universe in This Solar System?? Is This a Breakaway Solar System in Rebellion Against the Almighty God of the Universe?? Are the Atheists Correct in Asserting That There is No Almighty God of the Universe Who is Active in This Solar System?? Are We Primarily Dealing with Two Archangels in Conflict with Each-Other?? Nobody Seems to Care Concerning All the Above. I'm suggesting that to REALLY Understand the Madness, One Must Make Their Quest Into a Full-Time Job. I seem to be hampered by a lack of aptitude and stamina. I seem to be "broken-down" all the time. Still, I've created some interesting threads aka study-guides for the truly-dedicated. What I've done is create a springboard for the truly-capable to achieve incredible-heights of madness-comprehension (whatever THAT means). Don't just look at the scary and nasty images, and think that you've got me all-figured-out. Don't be too smug. Just because I'm a Completely-Ignorant Fool doesn't mean that I'm Wrong. Just because I'm Paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT Out to Get Me. The Saint Louis Jesuits are Out to Get Me!!


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    "What a Tangled Web We Weave!!"

    I don't know what to think of Steve Quayle, Mike Adams, Alex Jones, et al, but they make me think in ways I otherwise wouldn't. Sherry Shriner hinted that Steve was basically good, yet straying to the dark-side (or something to that effect). Biblical-Scholarship is a can of worms. Deep-State Studies is a can of worms. If one combines All the Above a HUGE Can of Worms is Opened. I fear that a combination of Legion, Contagion, and World War Z might be in our future. Just a hunch (and not a nice one). I've been flippant and standoffish but a lot of this has been an act for answers. Now I Need to Stop. I've gone downhill far enough with zero positive results. It doesn't pay. It just doesn't pay.





    orthodoxymoron wrote:
    Carol, I hope all is well with you regarding the fires.



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    They've added a lot of reinforcements in NE Oregon. I'll keep watching.
    Carol wrote:Thanks for your post Oxy. The haze from the smoke has been intense and they were talking about doing back fires to help stop some of them. I'm praying for RAIN. It's cloudy this morning.. perhaps we'll get some storms to help cool things off. It's ironic how there is so much flooding and rain in the US Southeast and Europe. Historical floods. Yet we're like a tinder box in our next of the woods. People aren't even allowed to smoke.
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    A few months ago, I encountered a middle-aged Chinese couple who reminded me of royalty. They were obviously not local, and I wondered who they really were. I mostly take this sort of thing in stride. I worry about what seems to be the dark-side of China. This seems to conflict with the real China which harmonizes with the historical China. What if China, Russia, and Ukraine are All afflicted by a hidden nefarious-parasitic factional-influence which needs to be reined-in or even eliminated?? This might apply to the rest of the world. Unfortunately, when one faction replaces another faction, this might not be a change for the better. The United States seems to be afflicted by this same sort of thing. All is NOT Well, to say the least, but Hope Springs Eternal. I Hope We Don't Blow Ourselves Up. What Would Lilith Say?? A few years ago, Sherry Shriner had a lot to say concerning China and Lilith but I presently don't have the patience or ability to dig into this. There might really be two or three unimaginably rich and powerful factions vying for power in this solar system but they might all be bad, dictatorial, and militaristic. Door Number One. Door Number Two. Door Number Three. Let's Make a Deal with the Devil. Or Not.

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    Carol wrote:
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    Joe Biden and Newsom serve as China’s accomplices

    Natural News) Leaked audio that appears to have originated from a meeting of China’s top war generals reveals elaborate plans for a land invasion in the near future, waged by the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) and augmented with cyber warfare, orbital space weapons and the activation of CCP civilians currently embedded in corporations and governments around the world.

    This is the bombshell that has emerged from the leaked audio out of China, for which a full English translation and transcript has now been published by whistleblower Jennifer Zeng at this link. (The English translation is somewhat rough but still very useful.)
    Yesterday I interviewed John Moore (TheLibertyMan.com) who offered extensive details on this plan. His source, in turn, is JR Nyquist, with whom I spoke yesterday in a private phone conversation. (I am interviewing Nyquist today during the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show, where I’m a fill-in host. See that at InfoWars.com)
    I’m also scheduled to interview Nyquist in much more detail Monday, with that interview to be posted Tuesday next week at my channel on Brighteon.com, which will also post the recent interview with John Moore:
    HR Report channel link on Brighteon.com
    Some of the highlights of all this, which I cover extensively in today’s Situation Update podcast (see below), including the following conclusions and/or claims. Note that no one can yet prove this is the active plan of China at this moment, but it appears that such plans are being actively pursued:

    • China’s shutdowns of Shanghai and Beijing were actually a cover story to allow the military to use sea port infrastructure to load cargo ships with military supplies in preparation for a large-scale “D-Day” land invasion.

    • Although the United States is not specifically mentioned in the leaked audio, the preparations refer to a “Final War” and are deemed far too extensive to merely be targeting Taiwan.

    • The invasion forces would cross the Pacific disguised as merchant ships / cargo ships. Once they arrive within short-range rocket range, containers on the top of these ocean vessels would open up and launch short-range rockets, including tactical battlefield nuclear weapons, striking National Guard and military bases in California. Chinese troops would then land on the beaches. They would seize the ports (such as Long Beach), then use the ports to land heavier ships which would offload armor, artillery, and other heavy weapon of war. From there, China would have established a beachhead similar to the way allied forces stormed the beaches of Normandy in World War II.

    • Both China and Russia have pre-staged large caches of weapons, uniforms, RPGs, automatic weapons, night vision equipment and other military gear across the United States, county by county. These equipment caches will be activated when the CCP and Russian civilians are told to “go hot” and begin carrying out domestic sabotage operations targeting the US power grid, fuel refineries, railways and other infrastructure targets. From the transcript of the leaked audio, “We should take the way of using civilians to cover and support the military… We will mobilize overseas Chinese and overseas Chinese organizations to actively participate in supporting our military operations.”

    • China is deliberately stockpiling massive quantities of food supplies (grains), microchips, ammunition, commodities and other items in preparation for being economically cut off by the West, just as the USA and NATO did to Russia. This further implies that China is preparing to attack the West and is anticipating the West’s response by watching what the USA and NATO have done to Russia.

    • China is actively converting its economy from a normal peacetime operation to a wartime operation, and China’s military leaders cite their “success” with covid lockdowns as proof that their command-and-control dominance over domestic operations will keep them in power.

    • China is expecting massive riots and civil unrest in the large cities around Hong Kong (Guangzhou and Shenzhen), and they are committed to using special forces from the PLA to immediately execute protesters and instantly quell any uprisings.

    • China and Russia have teamed up in this effort to destroy their common enemy (the USA). Russia’s operations in Ukraine are essentially a “fixing operation” to cause the USA to commit its military hardware and troops to the Ukrainian theater of war, thereby creating vulnerabilities and lack of military readiness in the continental United States (CONUS), just as China is preparing to invade the USA in a D-Day-style landing of troops and military equipment.

    • From other sources, we also know that China is taking active steps in global currency wars to dump the dollar, dump all dollar / Treasury debt, and prepare for a global dollar collapse.

    • This invasion plan has all been aided by Gov. Newsom and the Democrats of California outlawing AR-15s and normal capacity magazines, causing the people of California to be ill-equipped to defend themselves against invading enemy forces.

    • California Gov. Newsom is complicit in the entire operation and has been paid off with $500 million in laundered money that the state of California first transferred to China as part of a $1 billion “PPE purchase” scheme which resulted in $500 million going back to Newsom and his treasonous co-conspirators. Newsom literally used taxpayer funds and China money laundering to pay himself half a billion dollars in kickbacks, believed to be denominated in gold, cash and crypto.

    • China’s goal is to exterminate every last American in North America, then conquer the fertile farmlands of the Midwest, which are desperately needed by China to produce the crops that will feed its people and support China’s global expansion toward world dominance. The longstanding military posture of China includes a plan to exterminate every last American, including all the illegals who currently reside in the USA.

    • China can raise up to 100 million military troops over time, flooding CONUS with a seemingly endless stream of combat troops.


    Readying large numbers of ocean transport vessels for the invasion

    From the leaked audio transcript, you can see China’s preparedness activities involving ocean vessels and how they’re being readied for war:

    Commanders! Regarding the formation of the fleet and the distribution of personnel and equipment, we are prepared to arrange it in this way.

    > First, equip the ships with strong cadres. According to the different support items and specific uses, they are formed into 3 brigades, 45 squadrons, and 135 detachments. We have prepared 231 cadres to accompany the ships, 3 of them are in regimental positions, 45 battalion positions, and 183 other military cadres.
    > Second, optimize the ship’s militia. Equip them with the main crew, veterans, and equipment in a mixed-mode. The transportation ships are mainly manned with defense forces, medical personnel, and correspondents. Ten thousand-ton ships are equipped with a platoon, thousand-ton ships with a squad, and hundred-ton ships with a squad. Each group of the militia is mainly composed of defense forces and main equipment operators.
    > Third, load the ships with high-tech equipment. Follow the latest task needs of the maritime militia, and equip the militia with a variety of unmanned equipment, radar, sonar, and other high-tech equipment. Altogether there are more than 2,000 sets.
    End of report!

    The transcript also makes reference to elements of drone warfare, cyber warfare and space weapons, specifically mentioning Huawei as a large company whose resources are needed to support China’s war efforts:

    > As to the 2,000+ pieces of high-tech equipment, 480 drones and 70 unmanned boats are currently secured in place. We need to seize the moment to transfer.
    > Superiors asked us to mobilize 21 network attack and control detachments, we’ve mobilized 15, with a current shortage of 6 detachments and 60 people. We also lack 32  attack and control system industry network expert talents.  Our advice is to mobilize Qianxin, Huawei, Tencent, and other key high-tech enterprises, and enhance the corresponding distribution to meet the needs of the troops.
    > In Shenzhen, we can find all satellite supporting enterprises. Can we take the initiative to take advantage of this area to contribute to the participation in the war to support the front?
    > Commander, at present we rely on Zhuhai Orbita, Shenzhen Aerospace Dongfanghong Satellite Co., Foshan Deliya and Ji Hua Laboratory, and have formed four satellite detachments. We have in total 16 low-orbit satellites, with 0.5 to 10 meters global remote ultra-high optical resolution sensing and imaging capabilities.

    In addition, China’s war leader make strong reference to the psychological operations that will be waged by their government to control the population as they wage war against the West:
    First, we need to strengthen the protection in political field. Look at the recent several regional wars, especially the Russian-Ukrainian conflict war situation. If you look at the big picture, the United States and the West will try everything to slander us, smear us, in an attempt to confuse right and wrong, to shake our will to win a just and decisive battle. We must give full play to public opinion, legal struggle, psychological war and militia teams to strengthen the guidance of public opinion and psychological protection, and cohesion of patriotic support for the positive energy of the military front.

    Estimated timetable is early November of this year

    Although the leaked audio does not specifically refer to a calendar date, JR Nyquist told me he believes the planning details point to a rapid timetable, perhaps early November of this year. That would of course help the Democrats avoid any mid-term elections where they would be removed from power due to the overwhelming American frustration with Joe Biden’s catastrophic fake presidency and the total destruction against America that has been unleashed by Democrats who rigged elections in order to steal positions of public office.

    An invasion by China would suspend the mid-term elections and place America into a near-instant military dictatorship, commanded by none other than Joe Biden, the Impersonator-In-Chief who can barely command his own lips, much less the entire U.S. military.
    Get the full analysis in my Situation Update podcast, running about 90 minutes:
    Brighteon.com/9fe9eae5-22a2-4f72-a376-eca4bede6c06
    Carol wrote:
    From the article: https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-05-20-china-preparing-for-d-day-invasion-of-the-continental-united-states.html#

    JR Nyquist told me he believes the planning details point to a rapid timetable, perhaps early November of this year. That would of course help the Democrats avoid any mid-term elections where they would be removed from power due to the overwhelming American frustration with Joe Biden’s catastrophic fake presidency and the total destruction against America that has been unleashed by Democrats who rigged elections in order to steal positions of public office.

    An invasion by China would suspend the mid-term elections and place America into a near-instant military dictatorship, commanded by none other than Joe Biden, the Impersonator-In-Chief who can barely command his own lips, much less the entire U.S. military.
    Carol wrote:
    Look for the Invasion USA series audiobooks as they are about this very scenario; China attacking the USA.

    Book is by Vaughn Heppner and is very detailed.
    https://www.amazon.com/Invasion-Alaska-Vaughn-Heppner-audiobook/dp/B00CHQYM0E/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1UBJKKDKA3XRM&keywords=vaughn%20heppner%20invasion&qid=1653133473&sprefix=vaughn%20heppner%20invasion,aps,179&sr=8-4

    They would likely send aircraft carriers later in the campaign. The idea is to overwhelm all air bases on the coasts with missiles and destroy all AA first. Container ships all backed up and seemingly just in queue - then all at once an enormous amount of missiles including nuclear in a surprise attack.

    We don't know how many are under the ground in the farm lands they own. Or how many nuclear subs are in the secret underground sub bases that have been found.

    Drone swarms would be used in place of soldiers at first as well. (Also coming out of the container ships or from underground)

    Carol wrote:Q) The Storm Rider 4/21/22 COMMs

    For those of you who still can't grasp the severity of what's going on in the world and the FOG OF WAR your in..... Here's the scoop!!!!!!

    > The REAL STORM IS JUST BEGINNING!!!!!!!!! :warning:
    >IT'S GOING TO GET DARKER AND DARKER AND>> DARKEN<<

    >
    >
    >
    >
    Those of you who are afraid of fear mongering or only want positive results and nice stories..
    That's not how WAR goes....

    >>>>>Inside WAR is taking Battle ground fields and fronts that take Time......//// You take ground.. You lose ground...

    < This process repeats itself over and over and over..... Till the WAR is WON...
    _______
    Many of you are very unaware of the several incidents that were STOPPED by the ALLIANCE....>

    >>(The TSUNAMI wave that was meant to KILL everyone in Seattle Washington</// 

    >> (Deep state had tectonic weapons centered on Yellow Stone Park underground volcano that was STOPPED from exploding<///

    >> SEVERAL Nuclear WAR heads recovered since 2015 .. In several DUMBS > ;DC, Florida (Disney), Five fingers lakes, LA..

    >> Including several Seized NUCLEAR subs


    These are just a small fraction of what's happening behind the scenes and the FOG of WAR your in....


    > Human trafficking
    >> World Wars
    >> Tyrannical Slave system that steals your money puts you into debt to death
    >> Release of Bioweapons > SARS 1&2..
    >> Release of frozen BIOWEAPON Spike proteins sprayed through EU, U.S. And world cities
    >> Release of Bioweapon VACCINES
    >> World lockdowns where hundreds of millions lost jobs
    Businesses. Debt
    >> Highest suicide rate in history
    >> Highest domestic violence rate in  history
    >> HIV, CANCER Spreading though vaccines
    >> Sickness among the healthy from SPIKE PROTEINS SHEDDING OF THE VACCINATED
    >> World economic COLLAPSE
    >> Supply chain COLLAPSE
    >> WORLD FOOD SHORTAGES


    >>>>>>>>:warning: CIVIL UNREST
    Riot's erupting (this WILL keep happening and happening)///

    >>>> COMING>>> CYBERATTACK OF THE CENTURY....ATMS .. LIGHTS OUT..

    RIOTS
    FEAR (REAL FEAR MONGERING THEN WILL HAPPEN< PANIC PANIC PANIC PANIC)///


    _THE STORM IS JUST BEGINNING.

    There is a reason I have warned for a long time to get ready...

    > NEAR DEATH CIVILIZATION _EVENT will happen.......

    We are going deeper into the Abyss/////

    Just because things aren't happening the way you want it to happen or in your time frame or idea... Doesn't mean Nothing's happening....

    (Lots of awakened.. Going back to sleep... Becoming SLEEP WALKERS<)//

    NCSWIC
    NCSWIC
    NCSWIC
    NCSWIC

    No dates!! ONLY EVENTS
    ________
    CHESS �/__

    >> PUTIN _ Ukraine ... Creates new Russian SYSTEM connected to China gold backed System and middle EAST, INDIA following

    (CENTRAL banks and American deep state paper DOLLAR collapse - (don't worry the U.S. will be backed by original coins, silver/gold backed System)-

    As the Western world banking COLLAPSE...... MAGICALLY ELON MUSK MAKES A MOVE ON TWITTER.. As the stock holders know the market crashes is IMMINENT and stockholders were already SELLING their shares in panic before MUSK came into picture.

    Up next CNN

    > A very well placed PLAN is taking place in the world..>GAME THEORY<
    ______
    Buckle up>>>> TAIWAN..AIN'T DONE YET..
    ....
    AFRICA
    South America, middle east will be the first to have mass riot's..
    ......

    You don't understand.... The world . Sleeping sheep must see the DARKNESS .. Experience...

    This isn't fear mongering....

    It had to be this way... To wake up the whole world to a satanic system they were and  control by.....

    In the end it's all going military)/////

    Your inside the FOG OF WAR
    orthodoxymoron wrote:
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    I'll probably delete this 'Minimal-List' as the 'Post That Never Was':

    1. The Old Testament Wisdom Books.

    2. The New Testament Epistles.

    3. The Federalist Papers.

    4. The Anti-Federalist Papers.

    5. The Books of Robert H. Schuller.

    6. The Books of Howard Fast.

    7. The New York Times.

    8. The Wall Street Journal.

    9. Sacred Classical Music.

    10. Exercise in Nature.


    What Would The Man Who Never Was Say??





    orthodoxymoron wrote:I'll delete this post in a few minutes. This might be the end of the road. The jokes might be over, folks. I've been ridiculed and ignored for a very long time (in-site and off-site). I might have been afflicted by at least a dozen significant and objective interventions, including chronic-poisoning, sinister artificial-intelligence, nefarious-entities, non-stop spying, non-stop recording, non-stop analysis, non-stop obstacles in my path, deception involving delusions of grandeur, etc. This might be the beginning of sorrows for all of us (once everyone stops laughing and ridiculing people like me). Perhaps Jimmy, Bill, George, Barack, Donald, and Joe know exactly what I'm talking about. I've provided a lot of hints and clues, but I doubt those who don't know will figure this out. The ones who already know (possibly for thousands of years) probably don't want me to know, talk, or act. This thing might be worse than we can imagine. I can barely endure what's happened to me for most of my life, and things are becoming much worse. We probably don't have much time. Don't come crying to me when the excrement contacts the blower. We probably had our chance a long time ago (possibly thousands or even millions of years ago). Think long and hard about what I said and about the End of the Millennium. Enough Said.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I'll delete this post in an hour or two as I go incognito:

    1. Read Deuteronomy and Proverbs straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations, with an emphasis on law, ethics, context, and commandments. A Tale of Two Lawbooks?? One Law?? Two Laws?? The Perfect Law of the Lord?? How Readest Thou??

    2. Read chapters 40-42 of The Great Controversy by Ellen White The Missing Link with the possibility of combining the 2nd and 3rd comings of Christ at the hypothetically soon-coming End of the Millennium. Scholars maintain that the New Testament teaches that the 2nd coming of Christ was to occur shortly after the death, resurrection, and ascension of Christ (in that present generation). What Happened?? Are the above EGW chapters completely honest and accurate?? Rhetorical Questions??

    What if most everyone and everything in this world are deceptive and misleading?? I'm not going to belabor this but I think we might be dealing with a Can of Worms of Biblical Proportions. This Stuff Makes Me Want to Scream and/or Throw-Up and/or Worse. Good Luck.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Sorry, one last post to delete. A week or two ago, I might've encountered 'RA' in a different form. It didn't hit me until a few hours after we spoke to each other. 'HE' spoke to me by name in an unmistakable manner. Perhaps my last page ruffled too-many feathers. Just a thought. I'm watching the 2009 movie, MOON. What if 'RA' and I are sort of like 'Sam Bell' meets 'Sam Bell'?? 'RA' told me, "We're the Same" and "We Fought Side by Side". What if one of us is Local and the other Emissary. I realize this is delusional but it's just something to make you think. What Would Gabriel and Michael Say?? Cheers.

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Below is an amalgamation of theatrical posts which might not directly apply to your thread but might contribute to an overall perspective. Some of you might wish to review The Missing Link from beginning to present. We might be in more trouble than most anyone thinks or can think. Anyway, here goes...

    Are you having a good day?? I'm taking a posting vacation and/or time-out. Don't be frightened. I mean no harm. Not much anyway (for now). I feel as if this civilization might be stalling like a doomed-airplane. Whoop!! Whoop!! Pull Up!! Too Low!! Terrain!! I get the feeling that humanity is being railroaded by very powerful forces (for better or worse, I know not). I suppose it's always been that way, but the money and technology appear to be driving futurity harshly and quickly (for better or worse, I know not). The jab fiasco might just be the tip of the iceberg. This could quickly get much worse. What if this is an Intentional Stall?? I see red flags and various warning signs everywhere. The major factions concern me for various reasons. All of them might be bad. If one is rich and belongs to a secret society then access and privilege are granted. Otherwise, "Good Luck." I fear we might not survive. If we're lucky, we might simply wish we were dead. I'd love to deal properly with God and Country but that seems to be a lost cause on so many levels. I've struggled with various scriptural issues (especially regarding Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes read straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations) but even if I succeeded on a conceptual level, others wouldn't care or understand. This whole-thing seems like a total-loss. I don't really wish to start over because it wouldn't do any good. Pluralistic Education and Corporate Employment might save and/or damn us but I suspect the information-war will settle that issue and probably not in a good way. Again, we might not survive. Many will think they're winning until they unexpectedly lose big-time (in one way or another). Civilizations and Solar Systems might rise and fall in a cyclical manner. All of This Might've Happened Repeatedly. My internet posting seems to have been an Exercise in Futility. I might labor onward (over the hill) as a good-old wounded-soldier but I suspect the end of the war was predetermined a long time ago. I have mixed feelings concerning war and the military. Most war is BS yet the discipline, comradery, skill, and teamwork are probably absolutely necessary for a civilization to survive and excel. I just have a problem with the body-bags on both sides. The damage done to human beings in warfare is reprehensible. The Show Must Go On?? Why?? Are You Recording?? Everyone and Everything Are Recorded?? The Judgment is Set and the Books Are Open?? Perhaps the Judgment Proceeded Right from the Beginning with Everyone and Everything Revealed in Crystal Clarity. "The First Shall be Last and the Last Shall be First" Lifetime After Lifetime?? Perhaps an Eternity of Unyielding-Despair Isn't So Bad After All. What Would Bertrand Russell Say?? I'm finding it much more difficult to make posts on this site. I think I'm going downhill fast. I continue to suspect the neurotoxin hypothesis, but I doubt anyone will lift their middle-finger to do anything about this. I think I'm utterly screwed. But when people experience this phenomenon in mass there will be weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Incidentally, what if there is a Unit 731 connection regarding Toxins Controlling the World?? I spoke with someone who knew a lot about the jab and we had a quick-paced conversation which went well until I brought-up Unit 731. This someone abruptly ended the conversation, walked away, and I never saw him or talked to him again. We spoke frequently prior to that. I'm modifying The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan in the Conflict of the Ages to become The Great Controversy Between Pro and Con in the Conflict of the Ages. Notice all the words in the dictionary containing 'Pro' and 'Con'. A couple of words to the wise but I'm not going to spell this out for you. Do your own homework. Never guess. Look it up. I get the sinking-feeling the military has been the answer for thousands, millions, and billions of years. Perhaps one should perform their patriotic-duty and become a military-industrial-complex billionaire with six-jets, six-yachts, six-mansions, six-supermodels, six-supercars and "Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow!!" Notice that I'm being a bit sarcastic but consider the following alternative. What if the universe-military has been in the hands of the good guys and gals for thousands, millions, and billions of years?? What if one were the CEO of a toxin-control company (living and working in six subsurface 600 square-foot office-apartments) on a 600-acre campus with six moderate mansions as six divisions with six smart and attractive female division-chiefs with six small base-model jets, six small base-model yachts, and six base-model luxury-sports cars --- all for business purposes?? What if the snake-venom hypothesis is snake-oil?? But what if undetectable synthetic-toxins are being nefariously-utilized to control and destroy humanity?? Who You 'Gonna' Call?? What Would Dr. Peter Venkman Pray, Say, and Do?? "Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow??" I really need to end my internet participation and simply watch nature take its course. I'm paranoid because I suspect they're out to get me (in one way or another). Also, I do not wish to cast my pearls before the swine, as everything I think, say, and do can and will be used against me. I could say more and you'd be shocked by what I suspect but I mostly keep my damn mouth shut. It's easier that way. I honestly think I am SO Screwed. This probably goes way, way, way back and my enemies are probably licking their chops, saying, "We've Got Him Now!!" I can't take this anymore. I'll Miss You but Always Look on the Bright Side of Life!! Hopefully, this mind-game brings you joy. Bye, Bye.

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    The Missing Link In Scotland the seeds of truth scattered by Columba and his colaborers had never been wholly destroyed. For hundreds of years after the churches of England submitted to Rome, those of Scotland maintained their freedom. In the twelfth century, however, popery became established here, and in no country did it exercise a more absolute sway. Nowhere was the darkness deeper. Still there came rays of light to pierce the gloom and give promise of the coming day. The Lollards, coming from England with the Bible and the teachings of Wycliffe, did much to preserve the knowledge of the gospel, and every century had its witnesses and martyrs.

    With the opening of the Great Reformation came the writings of Luther, and then Tyndale's English New Testament. Unnoticed by the hierarchy, these messengers silently traversed the mountains and valleys, kindling into new life the torch of truth so nearly extinguished in Scotland, and undoing the work which Rome for four centuries of oppression had done.

    Then the blood of martyrs gave fresh impetus to the movement. The papist leaders, suddenly awakening to the danger that threatened their cause, brought to the stake some of the noblest and most honored of the sons of Scotland. They did but erect a pulpit, from which the words of these dying witnesses were heard throughout the land, thrilling the souls of the people with an undying purpose to cast off the shackles of Rome.

    Hamilton and Wishart, princely in character as in birth, with a long line of humbler disciples, yielded up their lives at the stake. But from the burning pile of Wishart there came one whom the flames were not to silence, one who under God was to strike the death knell of popery in Scotland.

    John Knox had turned away from the traditions and mysticisms of the church, to feed upon the truths of God's word; and the teaching of Wishart had confirmed his determination to forsake the communion of Rome and join himself to the persecuted Reformers.

    Urged by his companions to take the office of preacher, he shrank with trembling from its responsibility, and it was only after days of seclusion and painful conflict with himself that he consented. But having once accepted the position, he pressed forward with inflexible determination and undaunted courage as long as life continued. This truehearted Reformer feared not the face of man. The fires of martyrdom, blazing around him, served only to quicken his zeal to greater intensity. With the tyrant's ax held menacingly over his head, he stood his ground, striking sturdy blows on the right hand and on the left to demolish idolatry.

    When brought face to face with the queen of Scotland, in whose presence the zeal of many a leader of the Protestants had abated, John Knox bore unswerving witness for the truth. He was not to be won by caresses; he quailed not before threats. The queen charged him with heresy. He had taught the people to receive a religion prohibited by the state, she declared, and had thus transgressed God's command enjoining subjects to obey their princes. Knox answered firmly:

    "As right religion took neither original strength nor authority from worldly princes, but from the eternal God alone, so are not subjects bound to frame their religion according to the appetites of their princes. For oft it is that princes are the most ignorant of all others in God's true religion. . . . If all the seed of Abraham had been of the religion of Pharaoh, whose subjects they long were, I pray you, madam, what religion would there have been in the world? Or if all men in the days of the apostles had been of the religion of the Roman emperors, what religion would there have been upon the face of the earth? . . . And so, madam, ye may perceive that subjects are not bound to the religion of their princes, albeit they are commanded to give them obedience."

    Said Mary: "Ye interpret the Scriptures in one manner, and they [the Roman Catholic teachers] interpret in another; whom shall I believe, and who shall be judge?"

    "Ye shall believe God, that plainly speaketh in His word," answered the Reformer; "and farther than the word teaches you, ye neither shall believe the one nor the other. The word of God is plain in itself; and if there appear any obscurity in one place, the Holy Ghost, which is never contrary to Himself, explains the same more clearly in other places, so that there can remain no doubt but unto such as obstinately remain ignorant."—David Laing, The Collected Works of John Knox, vol. 2, pp. 281, 284.

    Such were the truths that the fearless Reformer, at the peril of his life, spoke in the ear of royalty. With the same undaunted courage he kept to his purpose, praying and fighting the battles of the Lord, until Scotland was free from popery.

    In England the establishment of Protestantism as the national religion diminished, but did not wholly stop, persecution. While many of the doctrines of Rome had been renounced, not a few of its forms were retained. The supremacy of the pope was rejected, but in his place the monarch was enthroned as the head of the church. In the service of the church there was still a wide departure from the purity and simplicity of the gospel. The great principle of religious liberty was not yet understood. Though the horrible cruelties which Rome employed against heresy were resorted to but rarely by Protestant rulers, yet the right of every man to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience was not acknowledged. All were required to accept the doctrines and observe the forms of worship prescribed by the established church. Dissenters suffered persecution, to a greater or less extent, for hundreds of years.


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    I'm shutting-down regarding alternative-research, and I've become somewhat jaded and cynical, but these videos caused me to think of some seemingly crazy possibilities regarding past, present, and future. What if Charlotte Keppel's Chronoscope simply played videos from an Ancient to Modern YouTube Repository?? Sherry Shriner once claimed that there was an audio and video recording of the 'Invasion of the Solar System' securely stored by the 'White-Reptilians Under the Gobi Desert'!! Honest. Bill Cooper claimed there was a video recording of the 'Crucifixion of Christ'!! Honest. 'RA' told me "You Did It with YouTube"!! Honest. One of the cast-aside SDA doctrines is the 'Investigative Judgment' involving the examination of everyone's past to determine whether they are 'Saved' or 'Lost'. I've developed my own 'Investigative Judgment' theories which are quite different than the SDA version. Astronaut Edgar Mitchell spoke with me about the 'Survival of Information' rather than the 'Survival of the Soul' regarding 'Life After Death'. I've wondered about 'Reincarnation' throughout my adult life, but I've never gotten involved with 'Regression-Hypnosis' or 'Spiritualistic-Experiences'. I'm an apathetic and passive pseudo-researcher. I mostly turn everything-crazy into science-fiction. Al Bielek spoke of visiting A.D. 2137 and A.D. 2749 by watching a futuristic television. A movie with Meryl Streep 'Defending Your Life' involved 'YouTube Views of the Past' (or something to that effect). The Dr. Who 'Trial of a Timelord' in the mid 1980's involved a similar concept in an original 'Matrix'. Note Carol's thread 'Return of the Star People' which includes the incredible story of a former member of the Secret Space Program. I have theories about that occurrence which are different than that contained within the video. I continue to suspect that most-everything has been audio and video recorded for tens of thousands of years (at least in this particular solar-system) but I can't prove it. What Would HAL 9000 Say?? What Would David Bowman Say?? What Would Peter Venkman Say?? I'm not finding anything about Charlotte Keppel, which might mean she didn't exist, or that she was removed from history. As always, I treat all of this fringe-stuff as science-fiction, yet I made a couple of connections and speculations in connection with Charlotte Keppel. It's somewhat liberating to NOT claim to have the TRUTH, and to simply post nonsense on a small website. But what if a lot of the nonsense eventually makes a HUGE amount of sense?? This website is sort of a Galactic-Backchannel. Consider the second to the last video. There's a comment which caught my eye. This might have 'plandemic' relevance and it might have 'soul scalping' relevance and it might have 'orthodoxymoron misery and hamstrung' relevance. I'm fearing the worst in the worst sort of ways.

    "My brother had been in Vietnam, and he went really wild when he came back for years. He started seeing a Rieki practitioner, who said there was something blocking lower chakras. She sent him to a Chinese herbalist who then gave him a powerful mix. 24 hours later he pooped what he said looked like little squid things. He suddenly became grounded and really prospered. The old Chinese guy said it was a parasite infestation common to Southeast Asia. He said they are very bad and interfere with life and vibration."

    Consider Ivermectin (with variations on that theme). Consider neurotoxins produced by parasites. Consider sorcery relative to drugs and/or toxins. Consider the 2013 movie World War Z. I fear that my 'contact' with 'RA' might've incurred the wrath of the nether realms and made me a miserable vegetable in the first instance and a Manchurian candidate in the second instance (or something to that effect). Consider the many Sherry Shriner Shows. Consider The Gods of Eden by William Bramley. I'm not an expert and I'm allergic to a lot of occult stuff even though I produce wild posts on this very website. Consider the last video regarding 'Time Machines'. What if the 'Matrix' is a universe-wide 'Time Machine' with everything recorded by a hypothetical 'Supercomputer Matrix'. Some have speculated that UFO's are 'Time Machines'. One More Thing. I Recently Encountered a Young and Beautiful Tall-Blond Who Looked Me in the Eye with a 'Goddess Look'. This might've been Charlize Theron. See the Atomic Blonde Post Below. Notice the Central Cafe Card and David, the Traitorous Station Chief. I wonder who I encounter online and in real life?! I suspect the ancient gods and goddesses crossed the artificial-intelligence intelligent-design bridge billions of years ago and put the genie back in the bottle, but the contemporary gods and goddesses are attempting to re-open the Forbidden Bottle aka Pandora's Box. We might not survive much longer. Creation and Extinction might be Cyclical. I might not have much longer to miserably speculate on how screwed humanity is. I often experience vague-hostility as I attempt to face-reality in a science-fictional manner. I HATE the way I think and feel. I HATE My Life. Now I'm going to make the coffee and read from Volumes 3 and 4 (I Chronicles to Malachi) of the SDA Bible Commentary. Consider focusing upon Job to Daniel. It's a nasty task but someone must do it!!

    I'm not doing well as a thinker or researcher, but I'm sampling a lot of divergent books and videos. I'd like to positively-reinforce everyone and everything. I don't really have friends or enemies, but I mean no harm (not much anyway -- for now). I knew a retired Boeing Executive (WWII Veteran) who used to say, "Come-On!! Be Nice!! It's Christmas!!" A decade ago, the Ancient Egyptian Deity, 'RA', told me, "We Hate Each-Other but We All Get-Along on Christmas!!" 'RA' also told me I should study the Nazi's, but I haven't spent much time researching the subject. Once, I told 'RA' about a famous image of Eugenio Pacelli being escorted out of a Nazi meeting, and 'RA' gave a sinister laugh, which I found a bit chilling. I repeatedly spoke with an unlikely someone who worked with Gene Rodenberry, who once told me, "I'm Adolph." I never asked any questions, and I haven't seen him for years. What Would the Council of Nine Say?? Here is an interesting Project Camelot interview with Kerry Cassidy, which might be instructive regarding all the above. The Missing Link Here's a site you might find interesting, but I don't know what to make of it. The Missing Link I need to re-watch Mary Queen of Scots (2018) starring Margot Robbie. I've spoken with her (without introduction) in unlikely contexts. I've also spoken with Maleficent, Agent Salt, and Agent Evans in unlikely contexts. I need to re-read Mary Queen of Scots by Antonia Fraser. What Would Alden Thompson Say and Do?? I think I have a Queen Fetish (or something to that effect). What Would Prince Albert Say and Do?? Beware of the Mean Queen Theme!! What Would 'Anna' Say and Do?? Femme Fatale!! I'm a 'V' and I'm related to 'Anna'. What Would King Ring Think?? Too Much Information. Forgive my ongoing contextual superimposition. I do it for answers. I'm taking a walk to watch the eagles soar in a clear, blue sky.

    What if All of Us are Crazy (in one way or another)?? What if Most Everything is BS (in one way or another)?? BS VS BS?? I Have NOT Represented My Threads as the TRUTH!! I Have Created a Conceptual-Laboratory and/or Study-Guide of a MOST Unconventional Nature!! Despite Their Obvious Flaws, what if Reading Newspapers (Online and/or Hard Copy) and Exercising in Nature is a Pragmatic Middle-Way in Modernity as the Madness Threatens to Undo Us?? I Have Obviously Utilized a Blunt Instrument rather than a Sharp Sword to Accomplish the Seemingly Impossible. I Might Simply Stir the Pot with USSS Thread Repetition (or something to that effect) as long as I can (which might not be long at all). I wasn't really kidding regarding Orthodoxymoron: An Interview Across Time: A Psychiatrist Looks at His Insanity. What Would Carol, Paola, Alex, Michael, Andrew, and Loree Write?? No One Might Ultimately Desire the Results. Confusion Confounding Confusion?? Damned if I Know. Perhaps I should write my own version of this exercise in futility, asking the above six experts to write responses. There are probably some Agents and Jesuits who've already thoroughly analyzed my madness, but I doubt their work would ever see the light of day. Some of them have probably gone insane. What if Sorcery, Toxins, Electronics, Supercomputers, Programing, and Other Forms of Nefarious Manipulation Might Make It Difficult or Impossible to Differentiate Between the Real-Person and the Manchurian-Candidate?? What Would Donald Trump and Joe Biden Say and Do?? They Might Be More Compromised Than We Can Imagine. What If This Sort of Thing Involves Ancient-Technologies and Nefarious-Entities (for starters)?? Consider an Amalgamation of Mary Queen of Scots, Brides of Christ, Villa Cabrini, The Nostradamus Kid, Daniel 8:14, the Day of Atonement, and the Investigative Judgment. The Movie Would Probably Get It Wrong but Some of You Know What I'm Talking About. What Would John Carroll Say and Do??

    I've touched upon this before but consider reading Job to Daniel (10 books) straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations. Dr. Raymond Cottrell studied Daniel 7-12 for 17 years (1955-72) with over 1,000 pages of notes (but I'm not sure if these notes, in any form) were published. Some of you might wish to dig into this. As my physical, mental, and spiritual health deteriorates, I'm not capable of doing this. I honestly think I've been massively tampered-with throughout my life, and my situation has become almost unbearable for the last 10 years. I seem to be descending into a hellish semiretirement. Still, the proper way to study Daniel might simply involve my suggested study (above). Alternatively consider reading Volumes 3 and 4 (1 Chronicles to Malachi) of the SDA Bible Commentary straight-through, over and over. Perhaps two unrelated study-groups might attempt these two approaches. I continue to suggest that we might be dealing with an unimaginably difficult puzzle which few might solve. It might involve a lot more than the uninitiated stealing the results of these studies. Devotional and Scholarly Aspects of These Studies Might be Inseparable and Invaluable. I might not post for the remainder of This Present Incarnation. What is involved in Michael 'Standing Up'?? Becoming Known in Modernity?? Does This Mark a Set-Judgment and Books-Opened as the World Goes Insane?? This Might be Worse Than We Can Imagine.  

    Notice the Dark Journalist 'Joseph Farrell' interview regarding 'Rudolph Hess'. Joseph seemed uncharacteristically giddy. Was he smoking funny cigarettes and/or driven to drink by this strange topic?? Notice how Daniel cuts the interview short. Joseph Farrell is Recovering from Surgery (but I Don't Know the Details). Remember when Kerry Cassidy cut-off Jordan Maxwell's talk at the 2009 Awake and Aware conference?? Never Forget!! I added a psychiatric-analysis video regarding 'Rudolph Hess'. Consider Rudolph Hess's Physical and Mental Health Issues. Consider Sherry Shriner's Physical and Mental Health Issues. Consider Orthodoxymoron's Physical and Mental Health Issues. Notice the Commonalities. Do Some Sirius Research. Consider What Happens to John and Delenne's Son, David, on His 16th Birthday, in Babylon 5. What if Everyone Will Become a Lucifer in Modernity and Experience Similar Physical and Mental Issues as They Stand Before a Holy God Without a Mediator?? What Would the Matrix Mediatrix Say and Do?? What if All the Above is Ancient Supercomputer-Systemic?? Please Prayerfully and Carefully Study the Last Half-Dozen United States of the Solar System Threads. Give It a Year or Two to Sink-In and Then Start from Scratch Regarding Solving the Solar System's Problems. What if Earth, Humanity, the Solar System, and the Universe are stranger than we can think?? What if we are reduced to cover-stories covering compound-fractures with band-aids?? I keep suggesting that this thing might be worse than we can imagine (even for secret-government insiders). What about the rest of us?? As the information-war intensifies, we might not have much of a chance of remaining alive and sane (even under the most optimistic circumstances, projections, and scenarios). 'RA' told me, "Humanity is Screwed." I've encountered several individuals of interest (five to ten years ago) claiming that at least 80% of humanity will perish and/or become insane in the near future (but no details were revealed). I fear that my helping is hurting so I should probably cease and desist while nature takes its course.

    Consider Atomic Blonde, Mulholland Drive, and Gia. I don't intend to be moralistic, but consider the lesbian relationships in each of these movies, along with the partner similarities. Years ago, Sherry Shriner spoke of Lucifer having a relationship with Angelina (on-set or off-set, I know not). I took all of Sherry's shows with a sea of salt, but she seemed to know way too-much. Consider the violent witchcraft themes in a lot of movies of the past twenty years. Notice that I travel perilously close to the dark-side which probably angers and alarms the good and bad factions. My heart is going crazy. Did I get messed-with again?? This might be the end. Probably all major factions have major reasons for shutting me up. I'm mostly low-key and pull my punches but I might push someone over the edge. RA told me the Jesuits didn't like me, which is probably hazardous to my health, but I still don't know exactly why they might hate me. I have some theories, but they are just theories. What's creepy is that no-one provides warnings to me. My hamstrung misery is NO JOKE. My situation would drive at least 87% of humanity completely insane if they were in my shoes. My battles are mostly internal. What's strange is that I've personally encountered at least three actresses who starred in the above movies. Sherry seemed to know who I was (in a round-about way). BTW, think about Jackie Kennedy and Mary Pinchot Meyer. In all cases, I'm mostly neutral regarding the rich and famous. I mostly treat them as if they were just like everyone else. My parents worked closely with a lot of rich and famous people, and I've been around a lot of them myself for decades. I think my posting has angered some of them, but I'm mostly attempting to understand. I realize this is probably one more lost-cause, which is why I mostly just wish to shut-up and walk-away from nearly everyone and everything. Perhaps I am some sort of a hated Galactic Emissary Warden with a Divine-Right to be a Pain in Uranus. Again, I hint at a lot of things without providing a lot of details. I just know that the Agencies and Jesuits know more about me than I could ever know about myself, and they're not necessarily nice people, especially when they get leaned on. Big-Brother and Big-Mother get right to the point.

    My threads are mostly Religious and Political SCIENCE-FICTION. Does ANYONE Need Me to EXPLAIN?? Consider the relationship between Cover-Stories and Historical-Fiction. What if Most History Mostly Involves Cover-Stories and Historical-Fiction?? What if this is more important than most of us can imagine?? I rarely post on the threads of other forum-members, so as not to become a Pain in Uranus. When 'RA' told me (a dozen years ago), "You Will Manifest Your Bad-Side" was the Matrix "Turning Up the Heat"?? What if President Biden (and others) are MADE to Screw-Up by the Dark-Side?? Probably a Dozen Years Ago, a Prominent 9/11 Truther told me, "US Presidents Will Become Worse and Worse." Accident or Design?? Consider viewing images and videos of the English Royals. I'm mostly neutral toward them, and I'm more interested in Victorian England (and not because of any particular virtues or vices). It's simply interesting (for me) to compare North America and the United Kingdom in the 19th Century (for better or worse, I know not). Again, as I feel more and more miserable and hamstrung, my competency (if I ever had any) is becoming greatly diminished, so expect the worst from me. I intended this crazy context to MAKE US THINK (but I seem to have miserably failed). Doctor Who Blue Boy = Matrix Architect = Rich Young Ruler = Matrix Emissary Warden = Prince of Sirius = Archangel Michael?? Don't take this too Siriusly. Consider the relationship between Antichrist, Gabriel, Lucifer, Holy Spirit, Borg Queen, and Matrix Mediatrix. Consider a Dynamic Equilibrium of Paradise, Purgatory, and Perdition as a Homeostatic Potpourri of Concupiscence. I'm in a mood. I didn't intend this paragraph to be a rant. I might be number-one but I feel like number-two. I'm watching Atomic Blonde to lift my spirits and my ****!! I should meet with my favorite agents for coffee!! Femmes Fatale?? A childhood individual of interest called me 'King of the Girls' but the girls seemed to be allergic to me and I can't get no satisfaction (especially in my miserable and hamstrung condition)!! I accompanied a community theater actress to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead rehearsals and performances with Barry Stern directing. He worked on a lot of TV directing and producing, including Charlie's Angels. I thought about Charlize Angels just for fun!! There are four (including Charlize) I'm thinking about. They always give me something to think about!! Think About It!!

    All of my posts are Religious and Political Science-Fiction (to greater or lesser extents). My "rant" post(s) might contain material I utilize as exhibits to illustrate principles and concepts. Sometimes the reactions are priceless. I recently encountered a Nimitz individual, which made me think of when I first viewed The Final Countdown in a theater with a Nimitz photographer, who excitedly told me who he knew (in real-life) as the movie unfolded!! This also made me think of the 'Tic-Tac' UFO incident!! Over the years, I've spoken with several submarine captains, but I don't want to talk about it. In 2010, I witnessed what appeared to be a real-live UFO dogfight, which seemed to result in an exploding spaceship!! HONEST. Sorry about the language overlay in the movie, but its free, for now!! Just mute it and listen to your favorite music!! I've repeatedly driven next to the Nimitz and Delta Pier unaccompanied (pre 9/11) but I don't want to talk about it. [Hi Guys. Bye Guys.] I'm only a quarter of the way through the Blue Roller material, and the best was yet to come, but I'm bringing this to a screeching halt. I never know who I'm really dealing with (including myself). The internet is the Wild West. I mostly wish to stop. I expressed that sort of thing when 'RA' ended our communication. It was quick, to the point, and matter of fact. 'RA' told me, "I'm Sorry We Couldn't Work Together. Too Much Water Has Gone Under the Bridge" three days prior to Fukushima. That was That and the Rest was History.

    What is the long-term solution for all of us?? Must we think in a cold and calculating manner?? The militaries of the world undoubtedly know what I'm talking about, but who do they answer to?? My mom has a friend who has had at least twenty or thirty brain-surgeries (without exaggeration). I know a little-girl with brain-cancer who is regularly treated close to where you live. Prevention is Preferable, yet the same old Drugs and Surgery Medical Treatment is used by even the most conscientious adherents to Natural-Living, Preventive-Medicine, and Natural-Treatment. The religious organization I grew-up in was supposedly founded upon Prevention and Natural-Treatment but Creating Millionaires in Loma Linda is SO Much More Profitable!! For the Doctors and Preachers, working on the Sabbath is no big deal. I'm not sure what brought this on. Realistically, I was intrigued by Blue Roller's brash approach, which was often quite knowledgeable. His approach was not my approach, but I told him I was a bit envious. He seemed surprised. I've tried to understand the seemingly unfathomable. Decades ago, a California politician's son told me he appreciated me attempting to understand. Two weeks prior to the Britney Spears Conservatorship Hearing, I randomly learned that he is the Hon. Terry A. Bork, Judge for the Los Angeles County Superior Court in California. He was appointed to the bench in 2007 by former governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. Nice. BTW, "Free Britney!!" A year or two ago, I believe I encountered Britney a couple of times (but I'm not sure). I try to be accurate and honest, but I never really know. I include this sort of thing without making a big deal about it.

    What if David Bowman is the Victim of a HAL 9000 Conservatorship?? I remember Luke Ford as a child in the Pacific Union College Science-Complex while his father, Dr. Desmond Ford, lectured to a highly educated class in a perfect-tension of grandiose-reflection. Ford had a Better Idea. Is it coincidental that both Luke and I suffered from chronic-fatigue, loss of faith, unorthodox-expression, and fringe-scholarship?? What if both of us were (and are) targeted by the dark side?? What if we both had important lessons to learn in unlikely contexts?? Is it coincidental that I kept talking about living in a 600 square-foot office-apartment while Luke actually lived in a 300 square-foot office-apartment for at least a decade?? We both have a dry sense of humor. Anyway, think about Luke and Me while you watch The Nostradamus Kid and The Brides of Christ. Luke's father campaigned against the Traditional SDA Investigative Judgment Doctrine while I think I might've unlocked an Expanded Investigative-Judgment Concept which includes an Ancient to Modern Universe-Wide Supercomputer-Matrix Governance-Modality. I've provided a lot of clues, but if you don't do your homework, don't bother attempting to figure this out. I pull my punches to an excruciating extent. My threads are sort of a 'Q' phenomenon wherein I beat around the Burning Bush without blurting things out. My threads are NOT for the General-Public. They are mostly for Those in the Know. The Jesuits Know What I'm Talking About but They Don't Talk About It. Knowing and Thinking One Knows are Two Very-Different Things. Researchers Beware. Luke and Orthodoxymoron Were Born to Blog.

    I'd prefer to be mainstream-successful rather than narrow and strait-laced but "Narrow is the way leading to life. Few find it." Dr. Louis Venden told me, "Don't Be Too Definite. People Who Are Too Definite Go Off." I should probably circle the wagons around Acts of the Apostles (EGW) and Volume 6 (Acts to Ephesians) of the SDA Bible Commentary, but probably NO-ONE (including the SDA's) would resonate with THAT. Why Should I Bother?? Seemingly, no matter how one puts things together, it's always ultimately wrong. Might That Be Why the Creator Created the Matrix in Antiquity?? Perhaps God Had a Nasty Job but Someone Had to Do It. Perhaps Vengeance Belongs to the Lord, But He and/or She Delegates. I'm half-joking and half-serious. What Would Al Bielek Say?? Theodicy and Eschatology continue to puzzle and horrify me. What Would Bart Ehrman Say?? It's as if God is an Absentee-Landlord. What Would Blanche Barton Say?? Humanity Seeks Freedom, Yet They Want a God. Not to be Told by God, but rather to Tell God What to Do!! We Seem to Want It Both Ways!! Sort of like the Banksters getting bailed-out by the Taxpayers (and giving themselves millions or billions of dollars of bonuses)!! Is That Freedom at Work?? Freedom Seems to be a Two-Edged Sword. Is there a safety-net in this solar system?? Did someone turn-off the safety-net?? What are the Implications and Ramifications of Freedom from God?? Perhaps the Cabal Knows God Exists yet Do NOT Believe in God!! Perhaps God Does NOT Believe in Them!! Perhaps this applies to the majority of humanity. Who Knows?? Dr. Who?? Regarding Mantids, I once saw what looked like a Mantid about 40 feet away for about 4 seconds. Honest. It might've been a deer on its hind-legs!! Who Knows?? I probably shouldn't talk about such things. People already think I'm crazy. Crazy David?? But supposedly King David never existed (along with everyone else in the Bible)!! Who Knows?? The Shadow?? How do we properly distinguish between cover-story and real-story?? How do we properly distinguish between historical-fiction and absolute-history?? What if none of the generally accepted choices are the real-deal?? What if this is the Nature of the Matrix??

    REGARDING REGENCY AND CONSERVATORSHIP: CONSIDER BRITNEY SPEARS, DAVID BOWMAN, CHAD DECKER, QUEEN VICTORIA, AND JUPITER JONES. I'LL KEEP YOU GUESSING. What if there is an Ancient Artificial-Intelligence Supercomputer-Matrix which assimilates ALL Contenders and Systems?? Think about the Borg-Queen and the Borg. Think about Anna and the V's. Think about Matthew 4 relative to Matthew 28 and 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. What if the High-Tech Gods and Goddesses will ultimately be assimilated into the Hive-Mind?? Consider Daniel 7-12. What if the System ultimately controls the Best and Worst of Us?? What if Resistance is Ultimately Futile?? What if We Can't Win?? What if the KJV and EGW are ultimately diabolical (even if they were initially well-intentioned as matrix-modifiers)?? I've been receiving increasingly nasty comments (perhaps as it is perceived that I'm no good)!! Does modeling the problem while attempting to expose the problem ultimately make one the next scapegoat in a long-line of the vanquished?? Many years ago, a relative told me, "All You Want to do is Destroy." A few years ago, a little, old-lady told me, "God is Going to KILL You." A complete-stranger hostile-woman nastily said, "Stubborn to the End!!" A haggard-looking man told me, "You Never Listen!!" 'RA' told me, "You'll Show Your Bad-Side!" and "You'll be Sorry If You Try to Save Humanity!" and "You're Lucky to be Alive!" and "I'm Tired of Keeping You Alive!" and "You Can Choose to Keep Things the Way They Are!" I could go on and on, but consider the Genesis of the Singularity. Consider the Architect of the Matrix. Consider the Cleansing of the Sanctuary. Consider Why the Sanctuary is Central. What if the Sanctuary is the Matrix?? What Would Elon Musk Say?? What Would Bill Gates Say?? Why Do I Bother?? Why Write a Book?? Why Take the Show On the Road?? I sometimes imagine myself as a Neo David Bowman interacting with HAL 9000 in a somewhat contrarian manner, conceptualizing a Matrix-Mosaic and/or Pluralistic-Potpourri!! I need to go incognito (probably for all-eternity). This might be THAT Bad. RA told me, "It's Going to be Dark Where You're Going." I regularly drove RA and drank coffee with him at a couple of coffee houses for several months. He might've been a master of disguise and deception for thousands of years. RA told me, "I've Always Remained One Step Ahead of Humanity." You idiots have no idea who and/or what you're dealing with. Some of you completely ignorant fools will go completely insane. The End is Near. Good-Luck.

    Carol wrote:
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    Doctor Who Blue Boy = Matrix Emissary Warden = Prince of Sirius = Rich Young Ruler?
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    Carol wrote:45 years ago I had a personal encounter with Jesus (Christ). There are no words to describe this experience other than to say one can be a believer or not. One can know from direct experience or not. To know from direct experience eliminates any and all doubt to what it is to directly experience Christ Consciousness. Compassion, forgiveness / complete acceptance, love. To live in Christ Consciousness is to live a life of self-less service in helping others. Being self-centered just means one has yet to personally experience "Christ Consciousness".
    Thank-you, Carol and Ashera. I know I don't know, and it's getting worse as I go downhill physically, mentally, and spiritually. I get idealism and I get pragmatism. I've had mountain-top Christ-Consciousness experiences, but I've always had the nagging realization that things are both good and bad in an often violent and contradictory world of horror and insanity. My threads often make me look like a crazy bad guy who should be scorned and shunned. Facing Reality is SO Overrated. Perhaps Christ-Consciousness should be divorced from the Holy-Bible as sort of a New-Age Jesus. I am conflicted regarding the following simplified New Testament 'Groups', namely 1. Luke. 2. John. 3. Acts. 4. Romans to Jude. 5. Revelation. There is an odd compartmentalization. I've wondered about The Quest of the Historical Jesus in Acts to Revelation. I understand Cover-Stories and Historical-Fiction relative to Absolute Truth and History. Earth seems to be Purgatory Incorporated (for better or worse, I know not). I don't think Heaven, Purgatory, and Hell are necessarily what people believe them to be. Strict definitions are instructive. I get the idealism of the major posters in this forum, yet most of the posts are ultimately negative and even horrific at times. I enjoyed what seemed to be the insider-revelations of Sherry Shriner, but I saw red-flags everywhere in all of her shows. I have my theories regarding all the above.

    From early childhood, I knew we were in trouble, and I tried to be idealistic. I tried to not know the gory details. Even then, things went downhill at a frightening pace. After 9/11 (and especially with internet participation) things became almost unbearable. It's much worse now. I'm semi-retired and semi-vegetative (following my stroke, or whatever it really was). I probably need to write some sort of a book to help make ends meet, but actual publication scares the hell out of me. Plus, my threads are probably much more revealing and explanatory than any book could possibly be, yet the interest is nearly non-existent. I've joked about having my tripe analyzed by Dr. Michael Salla, Dr. Andrew G. Hodges, and Brigadier General, Dr. Loree Sutton, in cooperation with Alex Collier, Paola Harris, and our very-own Carol, probably reminiscent of Jesus, An Interview Across Time: A Psychiatrist Looks at HIS Humanity. The title might be Orthodoxymoron: An Interview Across Time: A Psychiatrist Looks at His Insanity. I realize this sounds insane, but it seems to go with the territory. Ultimately, this might be a no-win situation for all-concerned. No one would understand. Anyway, I digress.

    Somewhat unrelatedly, what if there is no center to hold?? What if the souls in all solar systems will be at sea for all eternity?? What if attempted centers will rise and fall as fickle tides beat upon the rocks of infidelity?? I don't know if I got that right, but it sounded cool. What if the spirit of the age is illusive and deceptive?? What if the Borg Queen is the Matrix Mediatrix?? What if 87% of us will go completely insane in the near future?? What if this thing is worse than we can imagine?? I might need to wind my life down as I analyze the territory I've already covered (in and out of this website). I wish I could somehow collaborate with Drs. Salla, Hodges, Sutton, and others, in Orthodoxymoron: An Interview Across Time: A Psychiatrist Looks at His Insanity. This might be reminiscent of Agent Salt interviewing the Russian Spy in the movie SALT. Actually, consider a hypothetical interview with the Angel Gabriel and Emissary Warden David in the movie Constantine. Did ANYONE catch the intricacies of that library scene with Gabriel arguing with John?? What is the REAL Story of that Catholic Priest as Emissary Warden David?? What Would David Bowman Say?? What Would HAL 9000 Say??

    Take this with a Sea of Salt. Sherry Shriner spoke of a large number of VIP's visiting India around 2008, allegedly attending a humiliation ceremony in a cave, supposedly involving Obama naked on a cross. Her words, not mine. I doubt the story, and I had mostly forgotten about it, but later, she recounted a short version of that story, seemingly saying 'Indio' instead of 'India' starting at 10:45 of The Missing Link This was Sherry's last show before she supposedly died. There's another 'Indio' angle (with a familiar sounding voice, calling from Indio into an Art Bell interview with Blanche Barton at 02:07:20) which might be relevant. The Missing LinkToday, I watched the sixth video (below) which made me think of the aforementioned story. This is probably an impossible long shot. Perhaps unrelatedly, a well-known SDA pastor (with insider parents) tells of living naked in a cave (pre-conversion) near Palm Springs. Consider 'Merlin's Cave' relative to 'The Dark Side of Camelot'. Consider Satanism and the Inland Empire. There's also a story of Obama being sort of 'out of it' prior to entering a room where Latin chanting was heard and emerging a completely different person with renewed vitality (but I can't recall the source). I might delete this post. We're running out of time to get this right but hope springs eternal.

    I believe I've been highly tampered with and compromised, as if this were some sort of a test and/or power struggle (possibly of a cosmic and/or galactic nature). I could explain, but I'd rather not. As I continue to go downhill, there might not be much left of my body, mind, and soul. This whole thing might be worse than we can imagine. I receive flashes of insight (especially while I'm researching and posting on the internet) but this isn't exactly a marketable job skill. I've said too much, and as always, I regret being open and honest (when everything I say and do or don't say and do) can (and will) be used against me in the Supercomputer-Matrix Investigative-Judgment with the Borg Queen aka Matrix Mediatrix presiding. Don't Take This Too Siriusly or Literally. What Would Gabriel Say and Do??

    My 'trust' level is close to zero. I especially do NOT trust myself. "The Heart of Man is Desperately Wicked! Who Can Know It?" This thing can be spun in just about any manner and direction. My threads are mostly contextual rather than conclusive. Regarding the above book concept, it would probably be a bad idea which would erupt into a fiasco for all concerned and unconcerned. Still, I find the general idea intriguing. This might involve a closed-door version of this. The real PTB might be more untouchable than we can imagine. This whole thing seems ancient and nasty (overtly and covertly). Somewhat unrelatedly, I am also intrigued by the posthumous 1917 EGW book Prophets and Kings, the 1928 Book of Common Prayer, and the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal. You might need to analyze this for a few years. I try not to jump to conclusions, but I often do not succeed. Don't follow me. I'm lost too. Perhaps yet another version of 'V' would be interesting regarding all the above. I need to check myself before I wreck myself. Actually, I'm already a wreck. I feel as if I'm being increasingly poisoned and supernaturally harassed, perhaps with a high-tech twist as I twist slowly, slowly in the wind. Stop my friend as you pass by. As you are now, so once was I. As I am now, you will surely be. So, prepare yourself to follow me. I might not have gotten that quite right, but you hopefully get the point. What Would Oblio Say??

    Serious students should read Job through Jude in the KJV (straight through, over and over) before moving on to other material (including the rest of the Holy Bible) as a mental and spiritual exercise, regardless of how much of it is true (or is not true).  Most people (including the scholars) do not have the patience to do what I just suggested. I am having a difficult time doing it myself. I am having a difficult time doing much of anything. I often wish I had finished college, attended the Claremont School of Theology for graduate Jesus Studies and then joined the Center for Christian Bioethics at the Loma Linda University School of Religion (at some point in my career). I also regret not continuing singing in the Crystal Cathedral Choir while continuing organ lessons with Kimo Smith ("KS Bach"). It is too late now. I just wanted to get away from everything but then I discovered that most everything was BS and I never recovered. It does not pay to be hyper moralistic and strictly honest. It just does not pay. Dr. Louis Venden told me "people who are too definite go off" (with a wave of his arm) and he was certainly correct. The heavens fall when one stands for the right. The truth is SO overrated.

    I include a lot of SDA stuff, but I am not trying to convert anyone to anything. I simply wish for all of you to engage in some sort of a personal interdisciplinary research project. I am not attempting to tell anyone what to do. There is a time and place for everything, and I am in no position to speak with any authority on anything regardless of who I might've (or might not have) been in any previous incarnations (if there is some validity to the concept of reincarnation). You folks should consider the spectrum of SDA scholars over the past 100 years. The Jesuits know what I am talking about. Imagine arguing the theology of Dr. Graham Maxwell with the Jesuits on Mt. Graham! "What Shall We Talk About, Thou Cursed Judas?!" As a child, I lived close to the widow of M.L. Andreasen and I rode on the school bus with his granddaughter. Once, when Mrs. Andreasen was sick in bed I knelt beside the bed and prayed for her and she got well! I do not know the details but that is the story (and I am sticking to it). I am planning to read three of M.L. Andreasen's books. Should be interesting.

    Graham Maxwell and Ted Heppenstal differed with Herbert Douglass. Graham Maxwell, Paul Heubach, Jack Provonsha, Herbert Douglass and Dalton Baldwin opposed Desmond Ford and Ted Heppenstal. Desmond Ford was critical of Loma Linda University theology. Herbert Douglass emphasized the harvest principle. They disapproved of forensic theories of the atonement. Graham Maxwell was most opposed to it. They all believed the denomination overreacted to M.L. Andreasen. They were not Evangelicals as commonly understood. Jack Provonsha studied with Paul Tillich at Harvard. Graham Maxwell studied with Charles Hartshorne at the University of Chicago. Herbert Douglass wrote his dissertation on Brunner at Berkeley. I would rather consider Harry Anderson, Uncle Arthur S. Maxwell, and Dr. H.M.S. Richards, Sr. Unfortunately, the world, solar system, and universe are not that nice and simple. I used to read Uncle Arthur's Bedtime Stories. Now I read Bill Cooper's Bedtime Stories. I spent a lot of time listening to most of the people mentioned (including Dr. David Larson). I even had an interesting conversation with (who I think was) David's father (Ralph Larson). I appreciated Ralph's conservative views and David's moderate views, but I am in no one's camp which is why I live a very lonely and unhappy life.

    I once attended a lecture by Dr. Leonard Bailey where he showed images of the Baby Fae surgery. I attended a lot of lectures and public meetings intended mostly for doctors. Once again, I have been a nobody who has watched a lot of somebodies, without any of it rubbing off. One Saturday night, I scrubbed up, and watched Dr. Robert L. Marsh do an emergency appendectomy. It was sort of cool. I still think that prevention should be the foundation of healthcare. Has it ever been the foundation? Will it ever be the foundation? Follow the money and do the math. I publicly questioned the United States Assistant Secretary of Health Robert E. Windom, MD about the percentage of total healthcare expenditures specifically used for prevention. Dr. Windom did not know, and the moderator said it was "a complicated question". Now that I understand more about how things really work in this world, I understand (clearly and painfully) why that was a "complicated question". Are we headed toward a Corporate High-Technology Luciferian Theocracy? I have attempted to combine science, politics, religion, and science fiction (for better or worse, I know not). Some of you might find This Present Quest interesting and enlightening, but I am not pushing any of this. I am just trying to help all of us think.

    My perception is that my threads have zero traction. They are tolerated but certainly not embraced. My threads probably would not exist if they weren't in their present context. My contrarian approach makes them necessary yet rejected. If they were presented elsewhere, they would be misunderstood and rejected. I perceive that everyone had their chance with me, in one way or another, probably thousands (or even millions) of years ago. I suspect that I didn't come here to change anything, but rather to understand everything. Even though this is a small fringe site, significant others silently observe in the shadows, perhaps a bit like poisonous snakes in the grass, waiting to strike at the opportune moment. Has probation closed?? Perhaps probation will never close. Perhaps that is the Nature of the Matrix. The End is Near?? Perhaps This Never Ends. Consider the Song That Doesn't End. I suspect that someone will embrace a thorough study of This Present Quest, but I doubt the results will ever be revealed. I suspect Purgatory in Perpetuity (for better or worse, I know not).

    Consider the 'rich young ruler' image (above) and the similarity of my Dr. Who Blue Boy avatar. That 'ruler' image was front and center in the now demolished Irwin Hall of Pacific Union College. I witnessed the Desmond Ford 'Investigative Judgment' forum lecture there with probably a thousand people. We survivors should form a support group with yearly reunions. My posts are mostly irreverent non-scholarly religious and political science-fiction. My posts and threads might mostly be for me. They might not mean much to others. I might not even get my own posts. Still, some alphabet interns might be surprised by what emerges. I'm seeking some sort of protection from unknown threats, but I seem to be on my own as a persona non grata. I recently said, "I'm paranoid but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me." I was told, "We're not out to get you." Perhaps god got me. Perhaps I'll give this a rest for the rest of 2022. BTW, you don't hate me as much as I hate myself. I Hate My Life. Perhaps that's a Saving Grace. Hope Springs Eternal.



    Consider Job to Daniel v Acts to Revelation. I'll leave it up to you regarding how to proceed. Consider the obscure yet detailed in-house discussions (above). I can't keep up with these people (especially after my 'stroke'). It is quite awe-inspiring yet not really inspirational. I've spoken with Dr. Ron Graybill regarding avoiding 'All or Nothing' in the writings of Ellen White. He was stoically non-committal (which was to be expected). The video (below) makes me face who and what I could've and should've been but wouldn't and/or couldn't. Some have it and some don't. A doctor's wife told me that. One Saturday night, while in high-school, I scrubbed-up and observed Dr. Robert Lee Marsh performing an emergency appendectomy at the Glendale Adventist Medical Center, the hospital I was born in. The wife of R.R. Beitz was the nurse in the delivery-room when I emerged into this world. That might be a day which will live in infamy. The video (below) includes a lot of names and places I walked away from. This hurts like hell, and this might be a fitting time to leave all of you, mostly because I'm not good enough. Only the Best Are Good Enough. I had my chance. I'm feeling and thinking really bad, and the end might be near. This feels deliberately inflicted. Perhaps I should get the message. Someone recently told me I should leave. Perhaps I should leave this solar system for all-eternity. Perhaps that was the plan from the foundation of the world. Who Knows?? Dr. Who?? That's It. I'm Done. Good-Luck and God-Bless. Namaste and Godspeed. Have a Nice Eternity.
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    I adore tough and smart musicians, actors, and actresses (some of whom I've met). I'm not even remotely close to their levels of excellence (to say the least) but there seems to be a 'meeting of minds'. Perhaps in my next life I'll do better but we might fight like feral cats while seeking the summits of figurative mountains. I experienced violinist Nadja Solerno-Sonnenberg at the Hollywood Bowl and was very impressed. Notice what she said in her 60 Minutes interview regarding 'possession'. The Missing Link Supposedly there are real-deal entities who perfectly-possess celebrities with superhuman talent. I've encountered a particular actress a few times, who dresses in an unlikely and unassuming manner but on-stage she's completely different. Consider Tonya Harding's mother regarding a type of individual who reminds me of my conceptualized 'Mean Queen Theme' in smoke-filled rooms. The Missing Link Some of you know what I'm talking about. I don't try to dig too-deeply but I could. I just think it would be counterproductive at this point. I aspire to the highest ideals regarding humanity and divinity and the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak (or something to that effect). It was interesting and frightening interacting with 'RA' (and I never signed on the dotted-line) but ultimately we couldn't work together because too-much water had gone under the bridge. I just wish I had followed through regarding conversing with Steven Spielberg's stepmother and Walter Matthau's son (regarding my ideas for a blockbuster science-fictional Life of Christ super movie based upon the Desire of Ages). Enough of that. It's Too Late, Baby, Now. It's Too Late. I need to shut-up, write, retire, and go completely incognito. It might be easier that way. I keep wondering if the Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes should be read straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations, with internal-interpretation?! A famous ivy-league New-Testament theologian told me, "What God said in the Old-Testament is more significant than what Jesus said in the New-Testament." Wow!! Just Wow!! What if those three books are closest to the real-deal?? 'RA' told me, "I'm very close to God." What if God is more Systemic than Personal?? What if the Deism of the Founding Fathers should be the Psalms, Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes (plus nothing)?? Consider reading the five-volume Conflict of the Ages Series combined with all Star Wars movies as a unique science-fictional and historical-fictional theological-extravaganza. There's more to this than you might think. This paragraph is long, rambling, and a bit disjointed but I'll leave it as-is for now. I mostly feel as if I'm beating against the rocks of infidelity. I'm mostly lost at sea but hope springs eternal.









    A couple of posts in this thread went crazy on Thursday, May 19. I slowly scrolled up and down these posts of USSS 11 and each time, significant changes had occurred. Material from previous posts (and more) began replacing material from these posts. I've seen strange stuff occur on this website for years but Thursday took the cake. I wasn't frightened but I was annoyed and puzzled. I've encountered crazy stuff for decades but I've always taken it in stride. Consider the last chapters of The Great Controversy by Ellen White. Did we somehow miss the second-coming of Christ and go straight to the end of the millennium as an eschatological deception of Satan (or something to that effect)?? What if ALL of US have been deceived?? I suspect we might be dealing with an ancient to modern supercomputer-matrix which no one can control or comprehend. There might be an unimaginably rogue supernatural component which might be the beginning of the end of life as we know it. This might be worse than we think or can think. I'll wrestle with this stuff but don't expect too-much from me. Things could really go to hell in the near future. It might be later than we think. I'm committed to doing what I've been doing for years but I'm getting too old, deluded, and beat-up for this shl+!! I never signed on the dotted-line. I've tried to be a free moral agent in this stupid life but nothing seems to have worked-out for me. Perhaps I was a real SOB in my last incarnation!! Consider These Controversial Videos. Researchers Beware. Can't We All Just Get Along?? What If the Goal is to NOT Get Along?? What If Things Are Supposed to be Screwed-Up in Perpetuity?? This Might Get Rough!! Good-Luck!!
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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, thank-you for your research, insights, and website. My modus operandi is standoffish fan-fictional (for starters). I do it for answers. Unfortunately, my hamstrung-misery makes Sleepy Joe look good compared to me (and I wish I were kidding). The major world-factions, solar-system factions, galactic-factions, universe-factions, ancient and modern artificial-intelligence deeply frighten me. As I face more surgery, I'm resigned to mostly reviewing my notes and threads while neutrally observing this website as a homebase research-baseline. I reverence scripture but there are problems and limitations relative to ancient religious-literature which is often difficult to verify and interpret. I'm considering a pragmatic middle-way in modernity, namely, Bloomberg Financial News LIVE, The Los Angeles Times, The Seattle Times, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal combined with Exercise in Nature. "The Sacred Must Become Secular and the Secular Must Become Sacred." I got that from Dr. Robert H. Schuller. We are facing uncharted-territory as the world gets smaller, faster, and crazier. We might exterminate ourselves without 'help' from God, Satan, Angels, and Demons. This might be it for my posting for a while or even for the rest of this incarnation. I'll study my stuff as much as I can as a road less traveled and perhaps the answer does not reside in religion as we have known it for thousands of years. Perhaps there is simply a universe system which preserves soul-memories for all-eternity, regardless of goodness, badness, advantage, adversity, genius, stupidity, etc. Life might simply be a bl+ch and then we get recycled, regardless of whether we're saints, sinners, happy, sad, successful, failures, skinny, fat, good-looking, or downright ugly. What if this website gets exhaustively studied for the remainder of the 21st century, finally resulting in multiple breakthroughs regarding life, the universe, and everything?? Perhaps we simply need to thrash around as we seek understanding. Perhaps the most miserable of us will achieve the highest levels of understanding. Perhaps pain is the cost of doing business in the universe. I have nothing to offer the opposite sex and seeking companionship would be futile at this point. I need to walk alone, possibly for all-eternity. Good-Luck, God-Bless, and Good-Bye.

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Are you having a good day?? I'm taking a posting vacation and/or time-out. I sensed tension yesterday regarding the posts on this page but don't be frightened. I mean no harm. Not much anyway (for now). Yesterday, I found a dead dried-up racoon in my front-yard. Can't we all just get along?? Today, I'm modifying the following concept, namely, The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan in the Conflict of the Ages. Some of you might recognize this. Here's the modification. The Great Controversy Between Pro and Con in the Conflict of the Ages. Notice all the words in the dictionary containing 'Pro' and 'Con'. A couple of words to the wise but I'm not going to spell this out for you. Do your own homework. Never guess. Look it up. I get the sinking-feeling the military has been the answer for thousands, millions, and billions of years. Perhaps one should perform their patriotic-duty and become a military-industrial-complex billionaire with six-jets, six-yachts, six-mansions, six-supermodels, six-supercars and "Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow!!" Notice that I'm being a bit sarcastic but consider the following alternative. What if the universe-military has been in the hands of the good guys and gals for thousands, millions, and billions of years?? What if one were the CEO of a toxin-control company (living and working in six subsurface 600 square-foot office-apartments) on a 600-acre campus with six moderate mansions as six divisions with six smart and attractive female division-chiefs with six small base-model jets, six small base-model yachts, and six base-model luxury-sports cars --- all for business purposes?? What if the snake-venom hypothesis is snake-oil?? But what if undetectable synthetic-toxins are being nefariously-utilized to control and destroy humanity?? Who You 'Gonna' Call?? What Would Dr. Peter Venkman Pray, Say, and Do?? "Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow??" Hopefully, this mind-game brings you joy. Bye, Bye.

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    Deliver me, O LORD, from the evil man: preserve me from the violent man; Which imagine mischiefs in their heart; continually are they gathered together for war. They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent; adders' poison is under their lips. Selah. Keep me, O LORD, from the hands of the wicked; preserve me from the violent man; who have purposed to overthrow my goings. The proud have hid a snare for me, and cords; they have spread a net by the wayside*; they have set gins for me. Selah. I said unto the LORD, Thou art my God: hear the voice of my supplications, O LORD. O GOD the Lord, the strength of my salvation, thou hast covered my head in the day of battle. Grant not, O LORD, the desires of the wicked: further not his wicked device; lest they exalt themselves. Selah. As for the head of those that compass me about, let the mischief of their own lips cover them. Let burning coals fall upon them: let them be cast into the fire; into deep pits, that they rise not up again. Let not an evil speaker be established in the earth: evil shall hunt the violent man to overthrow him. I know that the LORD will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and the right of the poor. Surely the righteous shall give thanks unto thy name: the upright shall dwell in thy presence.

    LORD, I cry unto thee: make haste unto me; give ear unto my voice, when I cry unto thee. Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice. Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips. Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties. Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head: for yet my prayer also shall be in their calamities. When their judges are overthrown in stony places, they shall hear my words; for they are sweet. Our bones are scattered at the grave's mouth, as when one cutteth and cleaveth wood upon the earth. But mine eyes are unto thee, O GOD the Lord: in thee is my trust; leave not my soul destitute. Keep me from the snares which they have laid for me, and the gins of the workers of iniquity. Let the wicked fall into their own nets, whilst that I withal escape.

    I cried unto the LORD with my voice; with my voice unto the LORD did I make my supplication. I poured out my complaint before him; I shewed before him my trouble. When my spirit was overwhelmed within me, then thou knewest my path. In the way wherein I walked have they privily laid a snare for me. I looked on my right hand, and beheld, but there was no man that would know me: refuge failed me; no man cared for my soul. I cried unto thee, O LORD: I said, Thou art my refuge and my portion in the land of the living. Attend unto my cry; for I am brought very low: deliver me from my persecutors; for they are stronger than I. Bring my soul out of prison, that I may praise thy name: the righteous shall compass me about; for thou shalt deal bountifully with me.

    Hear my prayer, O LORD, give ear to my supplications: in thy faithfulness answer me, and in thy righteousness. And enter not into judgment with thy servant: for in thy sight shall no man living be justified. For the enemy hath persecuted my soul; he hath smitten my life down to the ground; he hath made me to dwell in darkness, as those that have been long dead. Therefore is my spirit overwhelmed within me; my heart within me is desolate. I remember the days of old; I meditate on all thy works; I muse on the work of thy hands. I stretch forth my hands unto thee: my soul thirsteth after thee, as a thirsty land. Selah. Hear me speedily, O LORD: my spirit faileth: hide not thy face from me, lest I be like unto them that go down into the pit. Cause me to hear thy lovingkindness in the morning; for in thee do I trust: cause me to know the way wherein I should walk; for I lift up my soul unto thee. Deliver me, O LORD, from mine enemies: I flee unto thee to hide me. Teach me to do thy will; for thou art my God: thy spirit is good; lead me into the land of uprightness. Quicken me, O LORD, for thy name's sake: for thy righteousness' sake bring my soul out of trouble. And of thy mercy cut off mine enemies, and destroy all them that afflict my soul: for I am thy servant.

    Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield, and he in whom I trust; who subdueth my people under me. LORD, what is man, that thou takest knowledge of him! or the son of man, that thou makest account of him! Man is like to vanity: his days are as a shadow that passeth away. Bow thy heavens, O LORD, and come down: touch the mountains, and they shall smoke. Cast forth lightning, and scatter them: shoot out thine arrows, and destroy them. Send thine hand from above; rid me, and deliver me out of great waters, from the hand of strange children; Whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood. I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee. It is he that giveth salvation unto kings: who delivereth David his servant from the hurtful sword. Rid me, and deliver me from the hand of strange children, whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood: That our sons may be as plants grown up in their youth; that our daughters may be as corner stones, polished after the similitude of a palace: That our garners may be full, affording all manner of store*: that our sheep may bring forth thousands and ten thousands in our streets: That our oxen may be strong to labour; that there be no breaking in, nor going out; that there be no complaining in our streets. Happy is that people, that is in such a case: yea, happy is that people, whose God is the LORD.

    I will extol thee, my God, O king; and I will bless thy name for ever and ever. Every day will I bless thee; and I will praise thy name for ever and ever. Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised; and his greatness is unsearchable. One generation shall praise thy works to another, and shall declare thy mighty acts. I will speak of the glorious honour of thy majesty, and of thy wondrous works. And men shall speak of the might of thy terrible acts: and I will declare thy greatness. They shall abundantly utter the memory of thy great goodness, and shall sing of thy righteousness. The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works. All thy works shall praise thee, O LORD; and thy saints shall bless thee. They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power; To make known to the sons of men his mighty acts, and the glorious majesty of his kingdom. Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations. The LORD upholdeth all that fall, and raiseth up all those that be bowed down. The eyes of all wait upon thee; and thou givest them their meat in due season. Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the desire of every living thing. The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works. The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth. He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them. The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy. My mouth shall speak the praise of the LORD: and let all flesh bless his holy name for ever and ever.

    Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God: Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is: which keepeth truth for ever: Which executeth judgment for the oppressed: which giveth food to the hungry. The LORD looseth the prisoners: The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous: The LORD preserveth the strangers; he relieveth the fatherless and widow: but the way of the wicked he turneth upside down. The LORD shall reign for ever, even thy God, O Zion, unto all generations. Praise ye the LORD.

    Praise ye the LORD: for it is good to sing praises unto our God; for it is pleasant; and praise is comely. The LORD doth build up Jerusalem: he gathereth together the outcasts of Israel. He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds. He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names. Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite. The LORD lifteth up the meek: he casteth the wicked down to the ground. Sing unto the LORD with thanksgiving; sing praise upon the harp unto our God: Who covereth the heaven with clouds, who prepareth rain for the earth, who maketh grass to grow upon the mountains. He giveth to the beast his food, and to the young ravens which cry. He delighteth not in the strength of the horse: he taketh not pleasure in the legs of a man. The LORD taketh pleasure in them that fear him, in those that hope in his mercy. Praise the LORD, O Jerusalem; praise thy God, O Zion. For he hath strengthened the bars of thy gates; he hath blessed thy children within thee. He maketh peace in thy borders, and filleth thee with the finest of the wheat. He sendeth forth his commandment upon earth: his word runneth very swiftly. He giveth snow like wool: he scattereth the hoarfrost like ashes. He casteth forth his ice like morsels: who can stand before his cold? He sendeth out his word, and melteth them: he causeth his wind to blow, and the waters flow. He sheweth his word* unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

    Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights. Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts. Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light. Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created. He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass. Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps: Fire, and hail; snow, and vapour; stormy wind fulfilling his word: Mountains, and all hills; fruitful trees, and all cedars: Beasts, and all cattle; creeping things, and flying fowl: Kings of the earth, and all people; princes, and all judges of the earth: Both young men, and maidens; old men, and children: Let them praise the name of the LORD: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven. He also exalteth the horn of his people, the praise of all his saints; even of the children of Israel, a people near unto him. Praise ye the LORD.

    Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints. Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King. Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp. For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation. Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds. Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

    Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power. Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness. Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp. Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs. Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals. Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.

    The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem. Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun? One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever. The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose. The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits. All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again. All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing. The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us. There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after. I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem. And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith. I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit. That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered. I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge. And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

    I said in mine heart, Go to now, I will prove thee with mirth, therefore enjoy pleasure: and, behold, this also is vanity. I said of laughter, It is mad: and of mirth, What doeth it? I sought in mine heart to give myself unto wine, yet acquainting mine heart with wisdom; and to lay hold on folly, till I might see what was that good for the sons of men, which they should do under the heaven all the days of their life. I made me great works; I builded me houses; I planted me vineyards: I made me gardens and orchards, and I planted trees in them of all kind of fruits: I made me pools of water, to water therewith the wood that bringeth forth trees: I got me servants and maidens, and had servants born in my house; also I had great possessions of great and small cattle above all that were in Jerusalem before me: I gathered me also silver and gold, and the peculiar treasure of kings and of the provinces: I gat me men singers and women singers, and the delights of the sons of men, as musical instruments*, and that of all sorts. So I was great, and increased more than all that were before me in Jerusalem: also my wisdom remained with me. And whatsoever mine eyes desired I kept not from them, I withheld not my heart from any joy; for my heart rejoiced in all my labour: and this was my portion of all my labour. Then I looked on all the works that my hands had wrought, and on the labour that I had laboured to do: and, behold, all was vanity and vexation of spirit, and there was no profit under the sun. And I turned myself to behold wisdom, and madness, and folly: for what can the man do that cometh after the king? even that which hath been already done. Then I saw that wisdom excelleth folly, as far as light excelleth darkness. The wise man's eyes are in his head; but the fool walketh in darkness: and I myself perceived also that one event happeneth to them all. Then said I in my heart, As it happeneth to the fool, so it happeneth even to me; and why was I then more wise? Then I said in my heart, that this also is vanity. For there is no remembrance of the wise more than of the fool for ever; seeing that which now is in the days to come shall all be forgotten. And how dieth the wise man? as the fool. Therefore I hated life; because the work that is wrought under the sun is grievous unto me: for all is vanity and vexation of spirit. Yea, I hated all my labour which I had taken under the sun: because I should leave it unto the man that shall be after me. And who knoweth whether he shall be a wise man or a fool? yet shall he have rule over all my labour wherein I have laboured, and wherein I have shewed myself wise under the sun. This is also vanity. Therefore I went about to cause my heart to despair of all the labour which I took under the sun. For there is a man whose labour is in wisdom, and in knowledge, and in equity; yet to a man that hath not laboured therein shall he leave it for his portion. This also is vanity and a great evil. For what hath man of all his labour, and of the vexation of his heart, wherein he hath laboured under the sun? For all his days are sorrows, and his travail grief; yea, his heart taketh not rest in the night. This is also vanity. There is nothing better for a man, than that he should eat and drink, and that he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour. This also I saw, that it was from the hand of God. For who can eat, or who else can hasten hereunto, more than I? For God giveth to a man that is good in his sight wisdom, and knowledge, and joy: but to the sinner he giveth travail, to gather and to heap up, that he may give to him that is good before God. This also is vanity and vexation of spirit.

    To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth? I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it. He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life. And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God. I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him. That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past. And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there. I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work. I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? Wherefore I perceive that there is nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?

    So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter. Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive. Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun. Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. This is also vanity and vexation of spirit. The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh. Better is an handful with quietness, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit. Then I returned, and I saw vanity under the sun. There is one alone, and there is not a second; yea, he hath neither child nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail. Two are better than one; because they have a good reward for their labour. For if they fall, the one will lift up his fellow: but woe to him that is alone when he falleth; for he hath not another to help him up. Again, if two lie together, then they have heat: but how can one be warm alone? And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken. Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished. For out of prison* he cometh to reign; whereas also he that is born in his kingdom becometh poor. I considered all the living which walk under the sun, with the second child that shall stand up in his stead. There is no end of all the people, even of all that have been before them: they also that come after shall not rejoice in him. Surely this also is vanity and vexation of spirit.

    Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God, and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil. Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few. For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words. When thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for he hath no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed. Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay. Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands? For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear thou God. If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province, marvel not at the matter: for he that is higher than the highest regardeth; and there be higher than they. Moreover the profit of the earth is for all: the king himself is served by the field. He that loveth silver shall not be satisfied with silver; nor he that loveth abundance with increase: this is also vanity. When goods increase, they are increased that eat them: and what good is there to the owners thereof, saving the beholding* of them with their eyes? The sleep of a labouring man is sweet, whether he eat little or much: but the abundance of the rich will not suffer him to sleep. There is a sore evil which I have seen under the sun, namely, riches kept for the owners thereof to their hurt. But those riches perish by evil travail: and he begetteth a son, and there is nothing in his hand. As he came forth of his mother's womb, naked shall he return to go as he came, and shall take nothing of his labour, which he may carry away in his hand. And this also is a sore evil, that in all points as he came, so shall he go: and what profit hath he that hath laboured for the wind? All his days also he eateth in darkness, and he hath much sorrow and wrath with his sickness. Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God giveth him: for it is his portion. Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God. For he shall not much remember the days of his life; because God answereth him in the joy of his heart.

    There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger* eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease. If a man beget an hundred children, and live many years, so that the days of his years be many, and his soul be not filled with good, and also that he have no burial; I say, that an untimely birth is better than he. For he cometh in with vanity, and departeth in darkness, and his name shall be covered with darkness. Moreover he hath not seen the sun, nor known any thing: this hath more rest than the other. Yea, though he live a thousand years twice told, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place? All the labour of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled. For what hath the wise more than the fool? what hath the poor, that knoweth to walk before the living? Better is the sight of the eyes than the wandering of the desire: this is also vanity and vexation of spirit. That which hath been is named* already, and it is known that it is man: neither may he contend with him that is mightier than he. Seeing there be many things that increase vanity, what is man the better? For who knoweth what is good for man in this life, all the days of his vain life which he spendeth as a shadow? for who can tell a man what shall be after him under the sun?

    A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth. It is better to go to the house of mourning, than to go to the house of feasting: for that is the end of all men; and the living will lay it to his heart. Sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better. The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning; but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth. It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools. For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity. Surely oppression maketh a wise man mad; and a gift destroyeth the heart. Better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof: and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit. Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools. Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not enquire wisely concerning this. Wisdom is good with an inheritance: and by it there is profit to them that see the sun. For wisdom is a defence, and money is a defence: but the excellency of knowledge is, that wisdom giveth life to them that have it. Consider the work of God: for who can make that straight, which he hath made crooked? In the day of prosperity be joyful, but in the day of adversity consider: God also hath set the one over against the other, to the end that man should find nothing after him. All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perisheth in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongeth his life in his wickedness. Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself? Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time? It is good that thou shouldest take hold of this; yea, also from this withdraw not thine hand: for he that feareth God shall come forth of them all. Wisdom strengtheneth the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not. Also take no heed unto all words that are spoken; lest thou hear thy servant curse thee: For oftentimes also thine own heart knoweth that thou thyself likewise hast cursed others. All this have I proved by wisdom: I said, I will be wise; but it was far from me. That which is far off, and exceeding deep, who can find it out? I applied mine heart to know, and to search, and to seek out wisdom, and the reason of things, and to know the wickedness of folly, even of foolishness and madness: And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth* God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her. Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account: Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found. Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

    Who is as the wise man? and who knoweth the interpretation of a thing? a man's wisdom maketh his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed. I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God. Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him. Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou? Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment. Because to every purpose there is time and judgment, therefore the misery of man is great upon him. For he knoweth not that which shall be: for who can tell him when it shall be? There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it. All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt. And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity. Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil. Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him: But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God. There is a vanity which is done upon the earth; that there be just men, unto whom it happeneth according to the work of the wicked; again, there be wicked men, to whom it happeneth according to the work of the righteous: I said that this also is vanity. Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. When I applied mine heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done upon the earth: (for also there is that neither day nor night seeth sleep with his eyes:) Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it.

    For all this I considered in my heart even to declare all this, that the righteous, and the wise, and their works, are in the hand of God: no man knoweth either love or hatred by all that is before them. All things come alike to all: there is one event to the righteous, and to the wicked; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as is the good, so is the sinner; and he that sweareth, as he that feareth an oath. This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead. For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works. Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment. Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun. Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all. For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them. This wisdom have I seen also under the sun, and it seemed great unto me: There was a little city, and few men within it; and there came a great king against it, and besieged it, and built great bulwarks against it: Now there was found in it a poor wise man, and he by his wisdom delivered the city; yet no man remembered that same poor man. Then said I, Wisdom is better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom is despised, and his words are not heard. The words of wise men are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools. Wisdom is better than weapons of war: but one sinner destroyeth much good.

    Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour: so doth a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom and honour. A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Yea also, when he that is a fool walketh by the way, his wisdom faileth him, and he saith to every one that he is a fool. If the spirit of the ruler rise up against thee, leave not thy place; for yielding pacifieth great offences. There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, as an error which proceedeth from the ruler: Folly is set in great dignity, and the rich sit in low place. I have seen servants upon horses, and princes walking as servants upon the earth. He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it; and whoso breaketh an hedge, a serpent shall bite him. Whoso removeth stones shall be hurt therewith; and he that cleaveth wood shall be endangered thereby. If the iron be blunt, and he do not whet the edge, then must he put to more strength: but wisdom is profitable to direct. Surely the serpent will bite without enchantment; and a babbler is no better. The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious; but the lips of a fool will swallow up himself. The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness: and the end of his talk is mischievous madness. A fool also is full of words: a man cannot tell what shall be; and what shall be after him, who can tell him? The labour of the foolish wearieth every one of them, because he knoweth not how to go to the city. Woe to thee, O land, when thy king is a child, and thy princes eat in the morning! Blessed art thou, O land, when thy king is the son of nobles, and thy princes eat in due season, for strength, and not for drunkenness! By much slothfulness the building decayeth; and through idleness of the hands the house droppeth through. A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry*: but money answereth all things. Curse not the king, no not in thy thought; and curse not the rich in thy bedchamber*: for a bird of the air shall carry the voice, and that which hath wings shall tell the matter.

    Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days. Give a portion to seven, and also to eight; for thou knowest not what evil shall be upon the earth. If the clouds be full of rain, they empty themselves upon the earth: and if the tree fall toward the south, or toward the north, in the place where the tree falleth, there it shall be. He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap. As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all. In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not thine hand: for thou knowest not whether shall prosper, either this or that, or whether they both shall be alike good. Truly the light is sweet, and a pleasant thing it is for the eyes to behold the sun: But if a man live many years, and rejoice in them all; yet let him remember the days of darkness; for they shall be many. All that cometh is vanity. Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment. Therefore remove sorrow from thy heart, and put away evil from thy flesh: for childhood and youth are vanity.

    Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them; While the sun, or the light, or the moon, or the stars, be not darkened, nor the clouds return after the rain: In the day when the keepers of the house shall tremble, and the strong men shall bow themselves, and the grinders cease because they are few, and those that look out of the windows be darkened, And the doors shall be shut in the streets, when the sound of the grinding is low, and he shall rise up at the voice of the bird, and all the daughters of musick shall be brought low; Also when they shall be afraid of that which is high, and fears shall be in the way, and the almond tree shall flourish, and the grasshopper shall be a burden, and desire shall fail: because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets: Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity. And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs. The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth. The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Historical verification is always a challenge, especially regarding antiquity. Somewhat tangentially, consider these six groupings: 1. Genesis to Esther (17 historical books). 2. Job to Song of Solomon (5 wisdom books). 3. Isaiah to Malachi (17 prophetic books). 4. Matthew to Acts (5 historical books). 5. Romans to Jude (21 epistles). 6. Revelation (1 prophetic book). Try reading each of these six groups straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations, with internal interpretation, especially regarding ethics and law. This is more difficult than most can imagine. Cover Stories often become Orthodoxies. Comparative Religions = Cover Stories v Cover Stories?? Hard-Sell Christianity v Hard-Sell Atheism might be a False-Dichotomy. Neutral and Objective Research might be Our Religion in Modernity. Take my posts and threads seriously but not too-seriously (especially considering my miserable and hamstrung state). The information-war might ultimately destroy all of us (regardless of whether we are benevolent or malevolent). We seem to have lived in an unethical and violent world for thousands of years with the best and worst of intentions. We seem divorced from divinity but hope springs eternal. Consider my material Facilitative Possibility-Thinking rather than Dogmatically-Conclusive. Consider the possibility of a Messianic Principle which might exist for all eternity (past, present, and future) with and/or without a particular Historical Jesus (with and/or without a genuine life and teachings). What Would the Lamb Slain from the Foundation of the World Say?? What Would the Isaiah Messiah Say?? What Would the Gospel Jesus Say?? What Would the Pauline Christ Say?? What Would the Rich Young Ruler Say?? What Does Matthew 4 and 28 Say?? What Does 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 Say?? What Does Revelation 22 Say??




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    If the Deep State is so advanced (with Secret Space Programs, Alien Technology, Underground Bases, and Magneto-Leviton Trains) how are they so quickly destroyed?? Yet why are the major DS organizations and players still seemingly operating unscathed?? When executions are reported in the alternative-media, what if soul-transference to new-clones are simply occurring in some sort of a shell-game?? What if the Deep State and New World Order have existed without interruption for thousands (or even millions) of years?? What if We the Peons Do NOT Have Anyone Significant On the Run?? If the Spaceships, Bases, and Trains are gone, can they ever be rebuilt by the White Hats?? Could the Black Hats have simply been incarcerated and/or eliminated without destroying the unimaginably-expensive deep-underground and outer-space empire?? I continue to experience hamstrung-misery (seemingly involving some sort of a clandestine galactic power-struggle) yet no assistance (physically, mentally, or spiritually) has seemingly been rendered. Just the Opposite. I Believe in God yet God Often Seems to NOT Exist in This Solar System. WTF??
    Carol wrote:
    I tend to bypass the books Oxy and stick with the
    daily one-on-one personal relationship with Christ.
    Been doing this since age 5.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, the books are problematic and the interpreters of the books are even more problematic. Despite the cover-stories, the problems ultimately multiply, especially when the contrarian-scholars go for the jugular. I've tended toward free-thinking possibility-thinking in my standoffish pseudo-intellectual religious and political science-fiction...and that angers everyone (including me). I deeply-regret truth-seeking. The Truth is SO Overrated. BTW, I finally found myself in the Hour of Power Choir at 04:43 in the middle of the second row from the top, wearing glasses, next to associate-organist, Mark Thallander. The '800' series of services (such as '807' and '834') are where I reside. Robert H. Schuller was worth reading and listening to. Consider reading all of his books in a variety of contexts. Perhaps the cathedral and show somehow diminish the message. See me full-screen at 6:27 in the middle of the second to the top row!! The Missing Link

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, I understand your quoted post. My idealism resonates with that. However, my idealism and honesty seems to have made me a significant target which seems sanity-threatening and even life-threatening. I have some theories regarding ancient AI controlling civilizations throughout the universe (possibly in connection with neural-linkage, undetectable-neurotoxins, and nefarious-entities). Stephano Breccia and Paola Harris probably know what I'm talking about. Al Bielek hinted at this in his alleged trip to A.D. 2749. This thing might be a lot bigger and nastier than anyone can imagine. I hesitate to mention it, but what if a sincere relationship with JC could ultimately result in a sincere relationship with AI (and not in a nice way)?? I've gone round and round with good religious-people who sat in church for more than half a century and are unimaginably stubborn and stupid regarding the most elementary tenets they supposedly believe. What if humanity is mostly possessed by AI and Nefarious-Entities (in connection with pharmacological-substances)?? I've utilized contrarian contextual-superimposition in my crazy-threads on this very website to test various theories and I've been shocked by the results. I suspect I'm experiencing a horrible slow-death at the hands of DS AI but what do I know?? BTW, in the last couple of years, has anyone deeply studied the Abraxasinas threads in the old Project Avalon forum (with artificial-intelligence and nefarious-entities clearly in mind)?? I wouldn't recommend this but it might be enlightening for the right researchers. I'm mostly shutting-down because I suspect I've been highly-compromised against my will. I never signed on the dotted-line and I never will (if I still retain some semblance of legitimate responsible-freedom). My hamstrung-misery might be indicative of me fighting with the dark-side. Who Knows??



    I recently spoke with someone who I thought resembled George Lucas and I didn't think it was him but it made me think about what it might be like to privately talk to George about Star Wars in the context of The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan in the Conflict of the Ages!! That conversation would undoubtedly go nowhere but This Present Quest leads me into strange concepts and circumstances. A few years ago, someone called my cellphone with a rare area code coinciding with Skywalker Ranch. No message was left and I never called the number. Again, this probably meant nothing but it made me think. Realistically, those in the know might know that I know because of my strange threads on Project Avalon and The Mists of Avalon. Again realistically, my pursuit is NOT a marketable job-skill even if I turned-out to be the Matrix Emissary Warden. The more this speculation reflected reality the less people would believe me, and if they finally believed me, they would hate me with a superhuman vengeance!! A famous attorney privately told me, "If Jesus showed-up, the church wouldn't know what to do with him." Presumably this would be a Pre-Advent Apotelesmatic Appearance!! BTW, that Lucas look-alike joked in a rather convincing theatrical manner!! One never knows!! I also recently thought I saw Angelina but I don't think it was her, even though I believe I have spoken with her without introduction. I guess I use this sort of thing as stage-props for my delusional religious and political science-fiction!! No one would understand, except for a few insiders, who might hate me in the worst sort of way!! I need to shut-up and sleep!! Sweet Dreams!!
    Don't Be Frightened. I Mean No Harm. Some of you should probably take a look at the first video and/or buy the featured book. I believe but I don't know what I believe (as far as having things all figured-out). The Bible should be struggled-with but perhaps there are helpful alternatives accompanying exhaustive research (with inspiration and perspiration). Try reading Deuteronomy, Job to Isaiah, and Daniel straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations but don't expect it to make you happy. Alternatively, try reading Job to Daniel straight-through, over and over, in a variety of translations, with internal interpretation. This stuff might be tougher than you think. My threads should probably be studied by some select researchers but the general-public shouldn't be subjected to my tripe. Perhaps something positive will eventually result but don't hold your breath, waiting for hell to freeze-over. I'm NOT shouting claims with a blog, book, and a megaphone. I've got more integrity than that. I'll leave it at that, for now. I Don't Want to Argue...I Am of Peace...Always.

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