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Floyd- Posts : 4104
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Mitt will just love this.
Perhaps this news will change his view that Russia are Americas no 1 enemy.
Perhaps this news will change his view that Russia are Americas no 1 enemy.
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Floyd wrote:Mitt will just love this.
Perhaps this news will change his view that Russia are Americas no 1 enemy.
No comment ...
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The maker of the film depicting The Prophet in a blasmephous light that caused the attacks on the Americans in Egypt and Libya is an Israeli Islamaphobe living (now hiding) in California.
An Israeli filmmaker based in California went into hiding Tuesday after his movie attacking Islam's prophet Muhammad sparked angry assaults by ultra-conservative Muslims on U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya, where one American was killed.
Speaking by phone from an undisclosed location, writer and director Sam Bacile remained defiant, saying Islam is a cancer and that the 56-year-old intended his film to be a provocative political statement
The two-hour movie, "Innocence of Muslims," cost $5 million to make and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors, said Bacile, who wrote and directed it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/sam-bacile-in-hiding_n_1876044.html
An Israeli filmmaker based in California went into hiding Tuesday after his movie attacking Islam's prophet Muhammad sparked angry assaults by ultra-conservative Muslims on U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya, where one American was killed.
Speaking by phone from an undisclosed location, writer and director Sam Bacile remained defiant, saying Islam is a cancer and that the 56-year-old intended his film to be a provocative political statement
The two-hour movie, "Innocence of Muslims," cost $5 million to make and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors, said Bacile, who wrote and directed it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/sam-bacile-in-hiding_n_1876044.html
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This film produced by an Israeli Muslim hater with Jewish donors (any agencies involved by any chance lol)has gone on to provoke riots in Austrailia and North Africa which will spread elsewhere.
The whole operation was clearly designed to ferment hatred and to give the west more reason to be Islamaphobic after witnessing Islamiist responses.
Not to mention increase the rhetoric behind an Israeli led attack on Iran
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19614000
The United States has ordered non-essential diplomatic staff and their families to leave Sudan and Tunisia.
In a statement, the state department also urged US citizens in Tunisia to make their way out of the country.
The US embassies in the Tunisian and Sudanese capitals have both been attacked in the wave of anti-US protests in the Muslim world over an anti-Islam film made in the US.
Earlier, Sudan refused to allow the US to send Marines to protect its embassy.
The whole operation was clearly designed to ferment hatred and to give the west more reason to be Islamaphobic after witnessing Islamiist responses.
Not to mention increase the rhetoric behind an Israeli led attack on Iran
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19614000
The United States has ordered non-essential diplomatic staff and their families to leave Sudan and Tunisia.
In a statement, the state department also urged US citizens in Tunisia to make their way out of the country.
The US embassies in the Tunisian and Sudanese capitals have both been attacked in the wave of anti-US protests in the Muslim world over an anti-Islam film made in the US.
Earlier, Sudan refused to allow the US to send Marines to protect its embassy.
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no wonder that OP is problematic a step to the ahimsa of Usrael towards the Iranian messaja/Imam...
No way anyone could have seen the film jet, its more BBC retoric than real reports. Shurlythe attacs on muslim communities are real provoked and Agency controlled,
By the way the dead raped US"ambessador" seems to get the same deal like Gaddafi - peace their tormented souls- seems karmic loop and we cannot wipe it
off!!!
No way anyone could have seen the film jet, its more BBC retoric than real reports. Shurlythe attacs on muslim communities are real provoked and Agency controlled,
By the way the dead raped US"ambessador" seems to get the same deal like Gaddafi - peace their tormented souls- seems karmic loop and we cannot wipe it
off!!!
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Eartheart wrote:
No way anyone could have seen the film jet, its more BBC retoric than real reports. Shurlythe attacs on muslim communities are real provoked and Agency controlled,
I think its more about who made and funded the movie than who reported it. Even islamic news agencies where reporting on it. Thats where the buck stops. Follow the money.
The protests came before the reports.
No doubt when people see things on the news it only makes them more angry and helps to stoke the fires.
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oopps on tube there are 4Million views of this absurd nonmovie, it depicts the middleeastern/jewish mindframe which nerves sooo much, that allegory and little children pictures for small thinking, but that braindamage isnt taken from the Net??? Any Amy whitehouse film or wistlerfilm is blocked by allegedly EMIrights issues, but such trash reflects the fallen angels nobrainers - poor jews if they have fun shooting a fake film and voiceoverdubbing it with more fake speeches without consents of actresses ect...
It reminds me of the israeli youth whoset himself onfire in tellafive recently - the signal for the end my friend.
???Contact your US-embassy nearby for
more hot news!!!
It reminds me of the israeli youth whoset himself onfire in tellafive recently - the signal for the end my friend.
???Contact your US-embassy nearby for
more hot news!!!
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Eartheart wrote:the signal for the end my friend.
I tend to think in terms neither of ends nor beginnings bus stuff that just happens.
Just events in the puny human timescale on a small planet suspended in the realm of infinity.
If it wasn't for wars I supposed we wouldn't have the concept of peace. Lets just hope peace can last longer and be more prevalent when it does bless us with its welcome appearance.
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So let's put this way . When the USA uses drones to kill innocent people in Afghanistan , Pakistan and Somalia , according to the Mass media , everything is OK . Now it is not OK because a tool of the of the mad people in Washington has been butchered ! They say he died like Gheddafy in other words sodomized and shot . I say tit for tat . I wish to congratulate the ones that did it . Please do it again to other US ambassadors in the ME . It just may be than that the Nobel prize for peace ( AH . AH , i fly at night with a broom stick !) will change his mind about permanent wars .......
http://rt.com/news/women-killed-afghanistan-airstrike-250/
http://rt.com/news/women-killed-afghanistan-airstrike-250/
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I've often thought that the US should have never gone into the mid-east. If what had been done to the mid-east had happened to the US - there would be hell to pay. So it stands to reason there is hell to pay towards the US for their outrageous acts of war and the murder of innocent people in other countries who DID NOT INVADE the US.
I think what happened to the US ambassander a terrible tragedy as again the innocent pay the price via suffering and death. How can humanity ever hope to evolve spiritually when so much violence towards others is encouraged, allowed and tollerated.
I think what happened to the US ambassander a terrible tragedy as again the innocent pay the price via suffering and death. How can humanity ever hope to evolve spiritually when so much violence towards others is encouraged, allowed and tollerated.
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It is the flash of a firefly in the night, the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset.
With deepest respect ~ Aloha & Mahalo, Carol
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Has anyone read 'The Gods of Eden'?? I keep referring to this book in many of my posts. I don't know how accurate it is -- but the premise is devastatingly spellbinding -- that humans have been manipulated into conflict and war -- by other than humans -- for thousands of years -- right up to this very day.
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Eartheart wrote:no wonder that OP is problematic a step to the ahimsa of Usrael towards the Iranian messaja/Imam...
No way anyone could have seen the film jet, its more BBC retoric than real reports. Shurlythe attacs on muslim communities are real provoked and Agency controlled,
By the way the dead raped US"ambessador" seems to get the same deal like Gaddafi - peace their tormented souls- seems karmic loop and we cannot wipe it
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RENSE makes the case that this Stevens was not an ambassador per se...he was only a consular official upgraded shall we say to an ambassador to make Americans more angry...I never heard anything about the film "Innocence of Muslims" on the news until after the Benghazi attack...the mainstream news is hunkering down on the fact that the protests are linked with the film which strikes me as BS. Rense also mentioned that most embassy staff are CIA and Stevens was a CIA man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7zLHbWmaaA
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The real root of the problem is the film maker,'Sam Bacile' - (If he exists or not. The man who was arrested in connection to the film did not have that name.) and the alleged 'Jewish donors' who 'designed' the movie in the first instance.
The news agencies whether western or Islamic are simply conduits for this kind of XXXX stirring.
There are some allegations that the movie was funded by a fundamentalists Christian organisation in the USA which will almost certainly involve the CIA.
Either way Mossad will be delighted with the outcome
All it would have taken is a couple of fundamentalists to watch it on youtube and it would have spread from there, leading to the protests and then the news reports completely as planned and designed to ferment hatred between the west and the world of Islam that plays into Israeli hands and the right wing in the US.
The situation about the ambassador is peripheral but there was always going to be someone who was going to get it.
"Islam is a cancer, period," he said repeatedly, his solemn voice thickly accented.
The two-hour movie, "Innocence of Muslims," cost $5 million to make and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors, said Bacile, who wrote and directed it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/sam-bacile-in-hiding_n_1876044.html
http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/a-curious-connection/0019357
A deepening mystery surrounds the personage of "Sam Bacile": the film-maker who allegedly made “Innocence of Muslims”, a film about Islam (which curiously few people seem ever to have watched in its entirety), the crudely insulting "trailer" for which has triggered such a violent reaction in Libya and elsewhere. "Bacile", which seems to be a pseudonym, reportedly described himself to the press as an "Israeli Jew" who lives in California and worked in real estate.
American Muslims have evidence it was fundamentalist Christians funding the 'operation'
The film called “Innocence of Muslims” (after having been called “Desert Warrior” and “Innocence of bin Laden”) was originally identified by AP as produced by Sam Basile. AP interviewed him by telephone. The person identifying himself as Sam Basile claimed to be an Israeli American and Jewish,and to have raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors to make the film. He said that the trailer of the film available on YouTube was part of a 2-hour film. He said that he made the film “to help his native land by exposing Islam’s flaws to the world”, and he called Islam “a cancer”. After the terrible events in Egypt and Libya, and after the story about the film became a news item internationally, he was reported to have gone into hiding in fear for his life.
It appears that Sam Basile was invented to cover the activities of at least four individuals - Steve Klein, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, Morris Sadek, and Joseph Nasralla Abdelmasih. Klein is an extremist Evangelical, and Nakoula, Nasrallah, and Sadek are extremist Copts. So, extremists Christian Islamophobes engaged in an elaborate subterfuge, creating a non-existent Sam Basile and providing Basile with a biography that falsely represented him as an Israeli Jew whose film was financed by 100 other Jews to help Israel against the “cancer of Islam.” The film was produced by Media for Christ at the Blue Cloud studios in California.
The problem is that they made a hateful anti-Muslim film designed to provoke a response, promoted it in English and Arabic, and then engaged in a hateful scheme to blame their handiwork on Jews. Egyptian political extremists used the film to stir up the masses to promote their political agenda. The extremist political organization Al Qaeda used the film as a pretext for their terrorist attack on the U.S. Embassy in Libya, as well as using the film as further “proof” of their propaganda effort to say that the U.S. is at war with all Muslims to gain support for their cause.
The news agencies whether western or Islamic are simply conduits for this kind of XXXX stirring.
There are some allegations that the movie was funded by a fundamentalists Christian organisation in the USA which will almost certainly involve the CIA.
Either way Mossad will be delighted with the outcome
All it would have taken is a couple of fundamentalists to watch it on youtube and it would have spread from there, leading to the protests and then the news reports completely as planned and designed to ferment hatred between the west and the world of Islam that plays into Israeli hands and the right wing in the US.
The situation about the ambassador is peripheral but there was always going to be someone who was going to get it.
"Islam is a cancer, period," he said repeatedly, his solemn voice thickly accented.
The two-hour movie, "Innocence of Muslims," cost $5 million to make and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors, said Bacile, who wrote and directed it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/sam-bacile-in-hiding_n_1876044.html
http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/a-curious-connection/0019357
A deepening mystery surrounds the personage of "Sam Bacile": the film-maker who allegedly made “Innocence of Muslims”, a film about Islam (which curiously few people seem ever to have watched in its entirety), the crudely insulting "trailer" for which has triggered such a violent reaction in Libya and elsewhere. "Bacile", which seems to be a pseudonym, reportedly described himself to the press as an "Israeli Jew" who lives in California and worked in real estate.
American Muslims have evidence it was fundamentalist Christians funding the 'operation'
The film called “Innocence of Muslims” (after having been called “Desert Warrior” and “Innocence of bin Laden”) was originally identified by AP as produced by Sam Basile. AP interviewed him by telephone. The person identifying himself as Sam Basile claimed to be an Israeli American and Jewish,and to have raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors to make the film. He said that the trailer of the film available on YouTube was part of a 2-hour film. He said that he made the film “to help his native land by exposing Islam’s flaws to the world”, and he called Islam “a cancer”. After the terrible events in Egypt and Libya, and after the story about the film became a news item internationally, he was reported to have gone into hiding in fear for his life.
It appears that Sam Basile was invented to cover the activities of at least four individuals - Steve Klein, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, Morris Sadek, and Joseph Nasralla Abdelmasih. Klein is an extremist Evangelical, and Nakoula, Nasrallah, and Sadek are extremist Copts. So, extremists Christian Islamophobes engaged in an elaborate subterfuge, creating a non-existent Sam Basile and providing Basile with a biography that falsely represented him as an Israeli Jew whose film was financed by 100 other Jews to help Israel against the “cancer of Islam.” The film was produced by Media for Christ at the Blue Cloud studios in California.
The problem is that they made a hateful anti-Muslim film designed to provoke a response, promoted it in English and Arabic, and then engaged in a hateful scheme to blame their handiwork on Jews. Egyptian political extremists used the film to stir up the masses to promote their political agenda. The extremist political organization Al Qaeda used the film as a pretext for their terrorist attack on the U.S. Embassy in Libya, as well as using the film as further “proof” of their propaganda effort to say that the U.S. is at war with all Muslims to gain support for their cause.
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Fresh protests are taking place around the Muslim world over an amateur anti-Islam video produced in the US.
One protester was killed in violent protests in Pakistan and thousands attended an angry demonstration in the Philippines city of Marawi.
Earlier, weapons were fired and police cars torched by protesters in the Afghan capital Kabul.
A large rally is due in Lebanon after Hezbollah's Sheikh Nassan Hasrallah called for protests to continue.
A trailer for the obscure, poorly made film at the centre of the row, entitled Innocence of Muslims, came to light in recent weeks and protests first erupted in the Egyptian capital Cairo last Tuesday.
The exact origins of the film are shrouded in mystery, although US authorities say they believe the film was made by Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a convicted fraudster living in California who has since been questioned over his role.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19625167
One protester was killed in violent protests in Pakistan and thousands attended an angry demonstration in the Philippines city of Marawi.
Earlier, weapons were fired and police cars torched by protesters in the Afghan capital Kabul.
A large rally is due in Lebanon after Hezbollah's Sheikh Nassan Hasrallah called for protests to continue.
A trailer for the obscure, poorly made film at the centre of the row, entitled Innocence of Muslims, came to light in recent weeks and protests first erupted in the Egyptian capital Cairo last Tuesday.
The exact origins of the film are shrouded in mystery, although US authorities say they believe the film was made by Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a convicted fraudster living in California who has since been questioned over his role.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19625167
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- Post n°16
THERE IS NO U.S. EMBASSY, CONSULATE, OR ANY U.S. REPRESENTATION OF ANY SORT IN BENGHAZI LIBYA. EMBASSY KILLINGS NEVER HAPPENED.
burgundia Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:10 am
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The US Consulate in Bengazi was bombed on June 6th of this year according to this report from New Zealand which would mean that there was indeed a a consulate in the city at least as far back as June of this year.
A bomb exploded outside the US diplomatic mission in the Libyan city of Benghazi overnight, an attack that could be retaliation for the killing, in a US drone strike, of al Qaeda's Libyan second-in-command.
An improvised explosive device was dropped from a passing vehicle onto the road outside the mission, in an upmarket area of central Benghazi...
The street in Benghazi where the diplomatic mission is located was cordoned off on Wednesday.
http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/benghazi-bomb-targets-us-embassy-4915648
A bomb exploded outside the US diplomatic mission in the Libyan city of Benghazi overnight, an attack that could be retaliation for the killing, in a US drone strike, of al Qaeda's Libyan second-in-command.
An improvised explosive device was dropped from a passing vehicle onto the road outside the mission, in an upmarket area of central Benghazi...
The street in Benghazi where the diplomatic mission is located was cordoned off on Wednesday.
http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/benghazi-bomb-targets-us-embassy-4915648
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US consulate in Libya bombed - video dated 6t June
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/jun/06/us-consulate-libya-bombed-video
Security personnel guard the US consulate in Libya's second city, Benghazi, after a bomb exploded outside its gates on Tuesday night. The attack was the first on an US diplomatic target in the country since the fall of Muammar Gaddafi. There were no casualties reported, but the explosion damaged to the building's perimeter wall.
A bomb exploded outside the gates of the US consulate in Libya's second city, Benghazi, on Tuesday night, in the first attack on an American diplomatic target in the country since the fall of Muammar Gaddafi.
There were no casualties reported and the explosion caused damage to the surrounding wall but a US embassy spokesman in Tripoli said they were still waiting for a full damage assessment.
He said the culprits were unknown but that security had been tightened around US diplomatic missions in both Benghazi and the capital, Tripoli.
"The United States deplores the attack on the mission in Benghazi," said the spokesman. "We want a full investigation."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/06/us-embassy-attack-libya
If there is a consulate in Benghazi it is also possible that it was the home of Chris Stevens
and others who were allegedly murdered there.
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For the 'There was no Consulate and no Ambassador killed in Benghazi' Scenario to be accurate the following would need to be so.
The bomb attack on the consulate in Benghazi on th 6th and the videos and reports that followed it would have had to be pre fabricated back then to install the false impression that there was actually a consulate in Bengazi.
The pictures now released of the remains of the consulate are not of the consulate but are props made to look an imaginary Consulate that never existed.
The Libyan guards providing protection were plants. The eye witness testimony of guards and others is all fabricated and all of the witnesses are under control of American officials. The families of those allegedly murdered do not exist or are also under the control of US officials. Those being prosecuted currently by the Benghazi authorities are also plants or mind controlled etc etc
I think it unlikely that all of the above coming together to create that scenario is the case. The film was emailed to Islamic tv stations just prior to the 9/11 date by its 'creators' thus a planned anniversary attack on the US by insurgents is entirely feasible. The rest of the protests are just general down with America protests related to the abusive Islamaphobia of its Christian creators.
The French are reporting there were actually two sites and thats why two locations are given. US staff were allegedly killed at both locations.
http://www.france24.com/en/20120917-libya-mystery-surrounds-benghazi-attack-consulate-usa-ambassador-stevens
The bottom line is that the video was made and funded by fundamentalist Christian and Coptic Christians .
The only way to prove that Stevens and the others weren't killed is to speak or write to a member of their families perhaps.
A compelling story nevertheless and one based on hatred and bigotry.
The bomb attack on the consulate in Benghazi on th 6th and the videos and reports that followed it would have had to be pre fabricated back then to install the false impression that there was actually a consulate in Bengazi.
The pictures now released of the remains of the consulate are not of the consulate but are props made to look an imaginary Consulate that never existed.
The Libyan guards providing protection were plants. The eye witness testimony of guards and others is all fabricated and all of the witnesses are under control of American officials. The families of those allegedly murdered do not exist or are also under the control of US officials. Those being prosecuted currently by the Benghazi authorities are also plants or mind controlled etc etc
I think it unlikely that all of the above coming together to create that scenario is the case. The film was emailed to Islamic tv stations just prior to the 9/11 date by its 'creators' thus a planned anniversary attack on the US by insurgents is entirely feasible. The rest of the protests are just general down with America protests related to the abusive Islamaphobia of its Christian creators.
The French are reporting there were actually two sites and thats why two locations are given. US staff were allegedly killed at both locations.
http://www.france24.com/en/20120917-libya-mystery-surrounds-benghazi-attack-consulate-usa-ambassador-stevens
The bottom line is that the video was made and funded by fundamentalist Christian and Coptic Christians .
The only way to prove that Stevens and the others weren't killed is to speak or write to a member of their families perhaps.
A compelling story nevertheless and one based on hatred and bigotry.
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Steve Klein. The promoter of the video
For years, Klein has been cultivating relationships with Middle Eastern
Christians in California – in particular, Joseph Nasralla, a California Coptic Christian who spoke at an anti-Muslim rally hosted by hate group leaders Pam Geller and Robert Spencer on Sept. 11, 2010.
Now, Nasralla has been identified as president and CEO of Media for Christ, a California nonprofit that allegedly produced “The Innocence of Muslims.” An unnamed spokesman for Media for Christ told the Long Beach Press Telegram that his organization was not involved with the film, but area officials confirmed to the paper that the company did take out a permit to produce it.
http://www.salon.com/2012/09/14/steve_kleins_anti_muslim_crusade/
Pam Geller is the sweetheart of THE EDL. The EDL is a schizophrenic islamaphopic organisation with vague links to neo nazi Templar groups which has many members of the old National Front. So that makes it half anti Jewish and half pro jewish but mostly racist who want to kick the 'pakis' out apparently.
Its very easy to google Pam Geller the EDL and the National Front etc etc
For years, Klein has been cultivating relationships with Middle Eastern
Christians in California – in particular, Joseph Nasralla, a California Coptic Christian who spoke at an anti-Muslim rally hosted by hate group leaders Pam Geller and Robert Spencer on Sept. 11, 2010.
Now, Nasralla has been identified as president and CEO of Media for Christ, a California nonprofit that allegedly produced “The Innocence of Muslims.” An unnamed spokesman for Media for Christ told the Long Beach Press Telegram that his organization was not involved with the film, but area officials confirmed to the paper that the company did take out a permit to produce it.
http://www.salon.com/2012/09/14/steve_kleins_anti_muslim_crusade/
Pam Geller is the sweetheart of THE EDL. The EDL is a schizophrenic islamaphopic organisation with vague links to neo nazi Templar groups which has many members of the old National Front. So that makes it half anti Jewish and half pro jewish but mostly racist who want to kick the 'pakis' out apparently.
Its very easy to google Pam Geller the EDL and the National Front etc etc