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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu May 17, 2018 4:22 pm

    Sorry for the grandstanding-repetition, but I have yet to receive a proper evaluation of my longshot-hypothesis. It's probably a heads-up warning to all-concerned (and unconcerned). If you haven't noticed, I jump-around a lot, just to break things up. I often take multiple-sides, and I'm frequently irreverent toward that which I'm mostly respectful toward, just to cause all of us to think things through, rather than being manipulated by some sort of knee-jerk reactionary-bullshit, and yes I use terms like the "b" word to cause a reflective-reaction. The first video is poorly-edited, yet contains a message which I somewhat sympathize with. I could say a lot concerning the second and third videos, but I found it nearly impossible to use my computer this morning. Something seems to have changed. There seems to be a lot of nefarious-deception and general-bullshit everywhere. We seem to be jerked-around each and every day. Again, I'm not promoting anything at this point. I suspect that someone will attempt to use me at some point, and perhaps that's been ongoing throughout most of my life (with an intensification over the past-few years). Trust no-one, including me. I don't like or trust myself. I Hate My Life.




    I take this website 'As-Is'. They've been quite accommodating, especially when taking our obvious philosophical and methodological differences into account. I have my theories about a lot of things, but I try to maintain 'Responsible-Neutrality'. One of my theories is that most (or all) of the fancy-technology and alien-beings were brought here in antiquity by US!! The theory goes that we came here from Orion, and that we might've been fighting with each-other for a very, very, very long-time!! I'm honestly shutting-down regarding the madness. I've had quite enough for one lifetime. Perhaps I'll be 'back in the saddle' in my next incarnation. Who Knows?? I suspect the Computer-Management of This Solar-System for Thousands of Years, with strict-guidelines, yet with a form of direct-democracy which asks "What Do You Want??" in the manner of Mr. Morden from 'Babylon 5'. In other words, what we want determines what we get. This hypothetical-system might've kicked-in when we rebelled against God (by whatever definition). I've recently been thinking about the movie '2001: A Space Odyssey' and wondering if some aspects of this movie actually occurred in 12001 BC??!! I could continue, but I'm feeling REALLY BAD. Could it be that a 14,000 year-old HAL 9000 makes damn-sure that I never succeed??!! What Would David Bowman Say?? What Would Dr. Peter Venkman Say?? But what if a 14,000 year-old HAL 9000 makes damn-sure that no-one succeeds at the Top of the Pyramid for any significant length of time?? What if, in antiquity, the Real God said "If I Can't Have Them, Then Nobody Can!!" I once heard Dr. Robert H. Schuller shout those exact words (but I don't remember the context)!! Where did Bob learn those words?? I wonder as I wander!!

    I'm going to attempt to practice what I preach by studying Job through Daniel side-by-side with Luke through Jude in a variety of translations (while listening to the Music of Dietrich Buxtehude). If any of you try this, notice what each-group actually teaches without outside-interference. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you might need to take a sabbatical. Context is Everything. What Would Joseph Fletcher Say?? He told me that Christianity was BS (or something to that effect) in the Randall Visitor's Center at Loma Linda University!! Honest!! The Music of Dietrich Buxtehude Performed on French-Romantic Organs with French-Romantic Interpretation might be the Way of the Future!! Actually Silbermann combined with Cavaille-Coll might be a Match Made in Heaven!! Why aren't Minimalist French-Cathedrals with Cavaille-Coll Organ-Replicas Model-Churches for the Anglican Communion and the Roman Catholic Church?? The Architectural and Musical Modernism of the Last-Half of the Twentieth-Century is Truly Heretical and Reprehensible!! But What Do I Know?? I Don't Know!! Consider the following divisions:

    1. Genesis.
    2. Exodus through Deuteronomy.
    3. Joshua through 2 Kings.
    4. 1 Chronicles through Esther.
    5. Job through Isaiah.
    6. Jeremiah through Daniel.
    7. Hosea through Malachi.
    8. Matthew and Mark.
    9. Luke through Acts.
    10. Romans through Galatians.
    11. Ephesians through Jude.
    12. The Revelation of Jesus Christ.

    Here's Heresy: What if one rewrote Group 9 (Luke through Acts) by incorporating all relevant portions of the other groups into the storyline?? We seem to desire satisfying-answers and certain-statements, but what if the reality of Biblical-Research is just the opposite (by accident or design)?? All churches and believers pick and choose (here a little, and there a little) don't they?? The SDA Church reflects an idealism which isn't necessarily presented in Sacred-Scripture (when read from cover to cover). The stack of EGW-Writings and Denominational-Publications rise like the Tower of Babel. Similar observations could be leveled at all churches. Is this sort of thing a necessary-evil?? Must we have a Matrix of Confusion to generate an Eschatological-Ideal?? Religious-History isn't nice. Not nice at all. But what if the Pain and Suffering have somehow been necessary?? How many people have submitted to the Discipline of Scripture?? I'm presently leaning toward the Music of Dietrich Buxtehude and Volume 4 (Isaiah to Malachi) of the 'SDA Bible Commentary', as a Remedial-Road Less-Travelled. Unfortunately, I'm so miserable that I find it difficult to concentrate. What if 'Witches and Warlocks International' are F@#$%ing Up My $hlt 24/7??!! If so (or some variation on this theme) why is this allowed by God and Heaven?? Is this alleged-phenomenon somehow reflective of God and Heaven in This Present Madness?? This thing might be nastier and more-complex than ANY of US can possibly imagine.

    I was at Norton Air Force Base when the SR-71 was video-taped as shown below. George H.W. Bush supposedly flew on a SR-71 in connection with the 'October Surprise'!! What Would John Lear Say?? UFO's were supposedly kept at Norton AFB. A 'Best in the World' Motion-Picture Studio was supposedly located at Norton AFB!! Norton AFB is mentioned in the 1992 film 'Sneakers'. Dan Aykroyd's character 'Mother' states "O.K., boss, this LTX-27 concealable mic is part of the same system that NASA used when they faked the Apollo moon landings. Yeah, the astronauts broadcast around the world from a soundstage at Norton Air Force Base in San Bernardino, California. So it worked for them, shouldn't give us too many problems."

    I had a terrific view of Norton AFB from my bedroom-window. I spoke with Steven Spielberg's stepmother (in Dr. Graham Maxwell's Sabbath-School Class) about a Science-Fictional Life of Christ Super-Movie (based-upon 'The Desire of Ages') just a couple of miles from Norton AFB. What if 'A Beautiful Mind' REALLY Occurred at Norton AFB and Loma Linda University Medical Center in the 1940's and 1950's?? What if a Scientist of Interest was converted to Seventh-day Adventism at that time?? What Would Dr. A. Graham Maxwell (University of Chicago doctoral-graduate) Say?? What Would Professor Ravenwood (of the University of Chicago, in 'Raiders of the Lost Ark') Say?? What Would Dr. Richard Rice (University of Chicago doctoral-graduate) Say?? What Would Charles Hartshorne (of the University of Chicago) Say?? What Would Dr. Louis Venden (doctoral-graduate of the Princeton Theological Seminary) Say?? What Would John Nash (of Princeton University) Say?? https://rbsc.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/Non-Cooperative_Games_Nash.pdf What Would Indiana Jones Say?? What Would Jupiter Jones Say?? What Would Paul Tillich (of Harvard University) Say?? What Would Jack Provonsha (doctoral-graduate of Harvard University) Say?? What Did They Know?? When Did They Know It??

    Billy Graham went soul-searching in the San Bernardino Mountains (if I remember correctly) when troubled over the Reliability of the Bible, and Billy decided to take a Leap of Faith. I wandered in and out of faith and doubt in those same mountains (many years later) and I'm still wandering in and out of faith and doubt. My threads are really a Matrix of Faith and Doubt, but I never took the show on the road, and I doubt that I ever will. I probably need to write a book at some point, but I don't know what to write, because I suspect that if I write a book, and do book-signings, this will open Pandora's Box and the Star-Gates of Hell. I think my hereditary and cultivated weaknesses would make me an easy-target for some VERY Pissed-Off Angels and Demons (for legion reasons)!! I think the Bad-Blood might go WAY Back!! I recently met a Beautiful-Woman who told me she "Felt Solid." I'd never heard ANYONE say THAT before!! Was she telling me she was Completely-Materialized?? Damned If I Know!! I Never Know Who I'm Dealing With!! A few days earlier I encountered another Beautiful-Woman who I didn't know, yet seemed to know. She had a very composed and definite disposition and stride. What is the meaning of this?? Welcome to the Hotel California?? This could be Heaven or it could be Hell.

    What if 'Norton AFB' is the 'Hotel California' AND the 'Stairway to Heaven'??!! Norton AFB was in San Bernardino, California, as is a Mission with Bells, close to a couple of Desert Highways (leading to Palm Springs and Las Vegas -- in addition to leading to Hollywood, which is probably an hour's drive). What if the San Bernardino City Mission was the Apollo Moon Mission?? 'The Eagles' Have Landed?? Think of the 'Woman' in 'Hotel California' and 'Stairway to Heaven'!! Could this be the smart and tough 'Iron Lady' I've suggested might run Earth (and possibly the Solar System)??!! What Would Sigorney Weaver in 'Paul' Say?? Think about alleged UFO's and a Moon-Mission Faking-Studio at Norton AFB!! San Bernardino is supposedly a Hotbed of Satanism!! Think of the request to the 'Captain' for wine in 'Hotel California'!! There are 'Captains' in the 'Air Force', aren't there?? Think of the mention of '1969' in 'Hotel California' which is when the Apollo 11 Moon-Mission was supposedly faked!! What if Faked Moon-Missions and Secret UFO's were somehow Necessary-Evils??

    Think about the images and videos below. Think about Tonya and her mother (including the possibility of similar individuals). What if Wars, Drugs, and Deception were somehow necessary to fund a somehow necessary Empire of UFO's and Underground-Bases (for who knows what reasons??)?? Consider multiple-meanings of 'Inland Empire'. I recently encountered someone who looked and acted a lot like Buzz Aldrin, and he didn't seem to like me!! Think about what I've posted in this post!! You don't suppose??!! What Would Bart Sibrel Say?? What Would Marduk-Ra Say?? He told me he was more powerful than the Queen, but he didn't say whether he was referring to the 'Queen of England' or the 'Queen of Heaven'. 'RA' told me about "Stolen-Technology". 'RA' told me "You should make a Freedom of Information Act Request." I Did Repeatedly, and Received Zero Information. 'RA' said "I Built Las Vegas with Bugsy." 'RA' said "I'm Rich." Rich congratulated me for winning something, but I never received anything. He told me "Wait Until People See What Those Who Were Loyal to God Got." He said "There Will Be Pandemonium." He said "An Extermination is Inevitable and Immanent." 'RA' told me "You'll Be Sorry If You Try to Save Humanity." I Have NO Idea Who Various Individuals of Interest REALLY Were. I Have NO Idea How to Interpret Their Comments.



























    This is one of the most upsetting posts I've ever made. It's really a composite-post, constructed from several-posts, so there's a lot of repetition. Please continue to consider my posts and threads as Religious and Political Science-Fiction. This is NOT a Scholarly Work. I honestly Do NOT Know where the Truth ends and the BS begins, regardless of who I might've (or might not have) been in Antiquity. I'm honestly a Completely Ignorant Fool in This Present Incarnation. That's the Inconvenient-Truth. Sorry About That. Could an Alphabet Guy and/or Gal Brief Me, At Some Appropriate Time and Place?? Sort of like Martin Sheen briefing Jessie Marcel in 'Roswell'. Even If I Knew Too-Much and Talked Too-Much, No One Would Believe Me!!

    One of my theories is that Everything is in the Process of Being Revealed to Everyone (for better or worse, I know not). I've referred to a Hypothetical Investigative and Executive Judgment (possibly terminating in A.D. 2133). Some of this is based-upon Unorthodox Biblical-Interpretation (mostly from the Wisdom-Books and Major-Prophets of the Old-Testament, but also from the Gospels and Pauline-Epistles of the New-Testament). Some of this is based-upon a sort of Eschatological Legal-Theory. This is all very-tentative to me, but the technology and world-conditions are such that it is becoming more and more possible and believable. I've been living within this speculative delusional-system for several-years, and it seems to be destroying me, so I think I might need to do something else (like sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll, perhaps). Just Kidding. Astronomy in a Small Mountain-Observatory is one of the leading-possibilities. Watching Heavenly-Bodies is probably easier than Watching the Past, Present, and Future Unfold.

    In One of the Images Below, (in a composite-reenactment) "I" Might Be Talking With Mitchell (first-name) and Mitchell (last-name), But I Don't Want to Talk About It. It's Complicated. What Would Edgar Mitchell Say?? What Would Mr. Edgars Say?? What Would Mitchell Marduk Say?? What Would Elizabeth Mitchell Say?? What Would Agent Evans Say?? What Would Anna Say?? What Would Ava Say?? What Would Sophia Say?? What Would Tonya Harding Say?? I knew a ship-captain who called her "Tonya Hard-On"!! She reminds me of Miss Pris!! "I, Pris, Am *******!!"?? What Would Tonya's Mother Say?? She reminds me of the Oracle in the 'Matrix', Kate in 'East of Eden', Dr. Josephine Mataros in the 'Termination' episode of 'Earth: Final Conflict', Starbuck's Mom in 'Battlestar Galactica', and the Girl Next Door in the Hospital!! What Would the Borg-Queen Say?? "If You Want the Money, You're Going to Have to Come Here and Get It!!" "How About Doing a Table-Dance for Me??!!" "Why Did You Do THAT??!!" "I Don't Want to Talk to You Anymore!! Good-Bye!!" BTW -- I went to school with the Borg!! Honest!!

    It's been nearly a year since I had my Open-Heart Surgery, and I recently noticed that when I close my eyes, moving them quickly from left to right, I see a bright-white 'C' to the left and right!! Occasionally, one eye moves significantly out of alignment with the other, while I feel very-strange, for a couple of minutes. Does this mean that I'm 'Mind-Wired'?? What if Jeffrey Daugherty is Sherry Shriner is Marduk Ra?? Listen for the 'Squeaky-Chair'. Jeffrey Daugherty is the Christian Whistle-Blower!! What if Monica Lewinsky is the Liberal Whistle-Blower??!! 'RA' told me "I Like Bill Clinton!!" and "The Bush's Sold-Out Very-Quickly!!" Honest. We got-along in a very strained sense!! I felt like Chad interviewing Anna!! What if Chad Decker IS Amen Ra??  

    I've got a high-fever and I'm delirious!! I need to sleep, and I might need to get a room in the Bethesda Naval Hospital (after I go to the press)!! JUST KIDDING!! Put down those M16's!! Perhaps it's simply my fever and aches which are driving me crazy, but I'm unusually agitated today. I was rude to someone who tried to help me. Perhaps that's why I'm in the predicament I'm in. Perhaps I'm NOT Safe to Save. It is written "The Truth Shall Set You Free" but is this REALLY True?? I continue to suspect that this civilization was overthrown in antiquity, and has been ruled by secrecy for thousands of years (for better or worse, I know not). If this civilization overthrew a Truly-Righteous God in antiquity, is there redemption, or simply an eternal-verdict, such that this NEVER Happens Again?? What if the God 'we' overthrew was replaced by Supercomputers, Bio-Robots, and Bad@$$ Greys and Reptilians (in Bad@$$teroids)??!!

    My threads represent a Narrow-Road Less-Travelled Research-Project. They Do NOT Represent My Idealism. I've frankly hated this project. It's been a Nasty-Task, but someone had to do it. I Have Removed Everything I've Posted On the Internet From ALL Tables (Real and Imaginary). My Internet-Potpourri is for Mental and Spiritual Exercise Purposes ONLY. My Tripe Isn't Even Close To Being Ready For Prime-Time. I keep hearing the Best and Brightest Researchers speaking of the Elites Setting-Up a One-World Government, but I continue to suspect that a One Solar-System Government has existed for Thousands (or Millions) of Years!! I further suspect that we are building a Technological-Prison for Ourselves with Technology Supplied by Our Hidden-Rulers (for better or worse, I know not). I wonder if there are relatively-undeveloped planets in the universe with highly-ethical, highly-intelligent, highly-organized administrations presiding over civilizations without crime, war, pollution, overpopulation, industrial-accidents, technological-nightmares, etc.?! Some of us must study the 20th century in excruciating-detail, while we still have a chance. What if this Solar System Is a Big-Business Run By Hidden-Factions for Nefarious-Purposes?? What Would This Solar System Look Like Under a Hell-Model, Purgatory-Model, and Heaven-Model?? Which Model is Best for Business?? Which Model is Best for Us?? How Good Is Too Good?? How Many Trillions Are Enough?? Must the Corrupt Rule the Stupid for All-Eternity??  

    My Grief is Beyond Description Because There is No Resolution or Reconciliation, But Hope Springs Eternal. The Bible seems highly-problematic, and the Alternatives seem highly-problematic, but what if one MUST Properly Study and Interpret the Bible as a Prerequisite to Achieving and/or Receiving Clean Sheet of Stone Solutions?? Read the Holy-Bible Straight-Through, Over and Over, to Determine What It Teaches. As I leave you, please at least study this thread (in great-detail) from beginning to end (repeatedly, if possible) and then arrive at your OWN Conclusions. This thread is SO crazy and sad, that it's almost funny!! Almost. I Know That I Don't Know, But Fence-Riders Form Splinter-Groups, and I'm probably making things worse for myself, but how could they be any worse?? The End Might Be Near. Again. Then Again, Perhaps We Can Have a Conversation in A.D. 2133. What Would Lucio Bernardo Silvestre Say?? What Would Chad Decker Say?? "World Without End. Amen."




































    orthodoxymoron wrote:
    Pris wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:
    Sometimes I wonder if you might be Sherry Shriner??!!
    Sometimes I wonder if this thread might be about you??!!
    Pris, sometimes I wonder if this might be you in antiquity??!!

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2014/07/08/07-07-14-monday-night-with-sherry-shriner

    Lol I'm not sure... but I'm guessing this is sort of a compliment coming from you, Oxy.  Thanks... I think. cat  

    Btw, if I was Sherry Shriner, I wouldn't put this up, would I?  Very Happy

    A book review on Sherry Shriner's 'Interview With The Devil':

    Avoid at all costs.
    By Sane Human Being on June 6, 2016
    Format: Paperback

    This woman is a delusional loon. Her crazy mythology seems to combine every conspiracy theory you ever heard with some weird version of the Christian bible, sufficiently skewed to grant herself a position of power and influence in the story. It shows a childish lack of imagination as if she just went on conspiracypedia.com and cut loose with the copy/paste until she had a new religion in her hands.

    Do not feed this troll. She will end up a footnote on local news having shot and eaten one of her own relatives for being possessed or some other such nonsense. I suspect the positive reviews are all from her existing cult members who seem to follow her around like lost puppies hanging on her every insane word. I shudder to think what traumas these unfortunate individuals must have suffered in order to render them susceptible to her poisonous rhetoric.
    ?https://www.amazon.com/Interview-Devil-My-Conversation-Lucifer-ebook/product-reviews/B01G5L1CMM/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_paging_btm_2?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&sortBy=recent&pageNumber=2#R16YUUMW04J7TP

    ?http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t9334p25-i-jesus-am-lucifer#129728
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    Pris, I probably shouldn't have made it personal, but I guess I'm modeling the concept of an Ancient Egyptian Soul with Dozens of Bodies and Personalities, Who Might be Linked to a Mainframe, and Might've Ruled This Solar System for Thousands of Years by Controlling EVERYTHING and Playing ALL Sides!! I'm Tired of Casting My Speculative-Pearls Before the Swine, and I Think I Simply Wish to Silently Watch Things Play Out. My Health is Deteriorating, and I Don't Feel Like Working for Nothing to Accomplish Nothing. I Just Think We'll be Shocked When We Learn How Things Have REALLY Worked in This Solar System for Thousands of Years. I might not post again for a very-long time. I frankly might not be around much longer. Geronimo.
    I've been asking seemingly thousands of simple questions over the past few years, with seemingly only dozens of genuine-answers and half-hearted answers. Everything seems to be either Obvious-Lies or Half-Truths. The Second-Coming of Christ was supposed to occur 2,000 years-ago, and it's always "Right Around the Corner" century after century after century, and one is called a "Mocker At the End of Time!!" if this glaring-problem is pointed-out. Is it too much to ask who Sherry Shriner REALLY Was?? Is it too much to ask if Sherry Shriner is REALLY Dead?? Is it too much to ask "How Did She Die (Or Appear to Die)??" I'm going to make this one post on this new thread, and just let it go. I recently heard the theory that JFK was a faked-assassination!! But what if cloning was highly-advanced in 1963?? Or what about possible Hitler-clones in 1945?? What if Sherry Shriner was a clone?? She said there were several Obama's!! We seem to live in a Solar System of Lies and Illusions, and I'm frankly sick of the whole-mess. Everyone seems to LIE. The LIE is Different At Every Level. What Would Richard Hoagland Say?? I suspect that this Solar System was overthrown in antiquity, and the only way to maintain the takeover for thousands of years was through LIES!! An Individual of Interest told me "God Can Run Things However He Wants To!!" This same Individual of Interest said they had "Helped Me!!" If Sherry is REALLY DEAD, "Good-Bye Sherry!! Thank-You for the Years of Disclosure!! I'll Miss You and Your Show!! I Hope Things Somehow Work Out Well for All of Us!! No Matter Who We Are, and No Matter What We've Done!! Hope Springs Eternal!!"
    Carol wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN_i7SZzv4A
    When Clones Malfunction- The Fake Among Us

    Great new vid by the late Sherry Shriner who died last week (in case you weren’t aware.) She was one of the few who actually talked about the clones in DC and Hollywood on a consistent basis. She will be greatly missed. Good compilation of latest clone mishaps. Their metabolism is horrible and they must be replaced often. This is exactly how it always happens…they start staring off into space and pass out. And if you don’t believe me watch, this 2nd video where the dude is DEFINITELY a clone on his last leg.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=aznatNOLVes
    Illuminati Ritual Season III: THE PRINCE & THE QUEEN
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I'm shocked!! A few hours ago, I found out about Brook's grave illness, and now I am told that Sherry Shriner is DEAD!! I noticed that her last show was 01/05/18, and she usually has shows on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Brook and Sherry probably have had more to do with my strange research-threads than anyone else, with the possible exception of the individual I've referred to as 'RA'. Do we know any particulars about Sherry's death?? She's claimed for years that she was near the top of a Government Hit-List, but that things had seemed to be better since Donald Trump was elected President. Sherry claimed to be the Granddaughter of the Biblical King David!! She claimed to be a Leader of Israel!! She seemed to have first-hand knowledge of events it would seem to be impossible to know anything about. There's something I liked about Sherry, yet I always remained Wary of Sherry. The content was almost always negative and horrific, with a disproportionate focus on Revelation and the End of the World. Paul and the Pauline-Epistles were mercilessly bashed by Sherry. People were chided for not knowing their Bibles, yet those who spent too much time on the Bible were accused of 'Bible Idolatry'. Going directly to the 'Father' was preferred to any other source, and presumably Sherry got her info from the 'Father' so perhaps all one had to do was listen to her show three times a week for the Real-Deal.

    I've tried to construct a very-strange science-fictional alternative-reality, which has probably driven me at least 87% insane. This is all very bizarre. Are these developments an indication that things are about to Go to Hell??? I've vowed to remain mostly or completely silent in 2018, but I've already been editing and adding to my threads, and commenting on Brook and Sherry. I don't know about Brook, but I've wondered if Sherry was somehow Supercomputer-Connected. Her shows were SO Strange and Upsetting, but Sherry never seemed to miss a beat, or become emotional. Was I just one more duped-idiot, or was I exposed to some aspect of cutting-edge disclosure?? I frankly have NO Idea. I feel as if I might've met Brook and/or Sherry without knowing it, but I don't want to talk about it. I don't really want to talk about anything anymore. I've recently become rather rude while talking to a relative about the 'TRUTH'. Truth-Speaking seems to be an Exercise in Futility. A couple of years ago, Sherry spoke of her days being numbered. I suspect that the Historical Management of Humanity is being replaced by a New-Crew presently (for better or worse, I know not). I continue to think that EVERYTHING Will Be Revealed from Antiquity to Modernity (in Great Detail). Is Earth ultimately a Technocratic-Governance Prison-Planet?? Was an Unalterable-Verdict Rendered in Antiquity?? I suspect that the Ultimate Universe-Rulers are Smarter and Tougher Than ANYONE Can Imagine. Don't Mess With Their Check...

    I'm surprised that no one is commenting on this thread. I've had a somewhat strange feeling throughout the years, as I've passively researched strange topics within Project Avalon, The Mists of Avalon, Sherry's Show, Alex Jones' Show, and the Internet in General. I've never known who and what I'm really dealing with, or whether such research was fundamentally a virtue or a vice. I pledged Responsible-Neutrality, but what was the reality?? I've sensed a lot of Disclosure-Bullying, but then I'm just a Sensitive-Boy. I've noticed an increasing amount of Fast-Walking Fast-Talking Arrogant Guys and Gals, Who Seem to be Above It All, and SO Superior to We the Sheep. What's REALLY Going On Here?? Does ANYONE Know Any Details About the Death of Sherry Shriner?? Did She Fake Her Death, to Go Incognito?? What the Hell Is Going On Here?? Sherry claimed to have Serious Heart Problems (going back at least a couple of years). I think she had back problems as well (if I remember correctly). She sounded OK on 01/05/18. What Happened?? I just found some comments under one of Sherry's last YouTube videos which mention her passing, but no details whatsoever. There are several videos which are highly critical of Sherry, so researchers beware. I tried to analyze her work as being mostly science-fictional in nature, but possibly revealing some forbidden truth to those with eyes to see, and ears to hear. Her Interview with the Devil was Beyond Creepy. She seemed to have first-hand information about Satanism. Sherry recently said "2018 Will Be a Year of Goodbyes." It Makes Me Wonder.


    I don't know why I'm asking this, but is the Alleged Death of Sherry Shriner somehow related to the Nuclear Missile Scare in Hawaii?? I think I found out about Sherry's supposed death on January 12, and I asked how she died, and I wondered if her passing somehow indicated that things might be going to hell?! The next day, the Hawaii Missile Scare occurred!! A few days later, someone told me that someone I've somehow associated with Sherry Shriner said to say "Hello" to me!! All of the Above is probably a real-stretch, but I wonder as I wander!! Three days prior to Fukushima, 'RA' told me "I'm sorry we couldn't work together. Too much water has gone under the bridge." I replied "Oh Well." Approximately three months prior to Fukushima, 'RA' told me that preparations had been completed for an undisclosed something. Honest. I've given up. I keep asking questions which never get answered. I keep sensing deception and obfuscation. I Eschew Obfuscation!! BTW -- It's now January 25, and Sherry hasn't had a show since January 5. That's three weeks without a show. This has never happened before. 'RA' knew that I was a regular listener to Sherry's show (without me telling him). I'd appreciate some inside-information regarding All of the Above. I'm tired of being 'Out of the Loop'. I'm forced to guess about EVERYTHING. No One Tells Me ANYTHING. Sherry Shriner has been talking about 'Clones' and 'Soul-Scalping' for quite a few years now. Her shows have been quite a wild-ride (which has apparently ended).

    I've suspected multiple-aspects to 'Sherry Shriner' for years. This is a Real Longshot BUT I just watched a video by Sherry Wilde for the second-time, and then I did an internet-search of her name, and I was shocked by what I found. In the video, Sherry said she was born on December 25, 1950, and she described heart-problems and chronic-fatigue, along with supernatural-attacks. She wished to die because things were so bad for her. She discovered that she had been implanted, and that the implant had been removed by the Dracos. Now, there is an obituary for a Sherry Wilde (same name) of West Carrollton, Ohio, who unexpectedly died on February 19, 2017. This Sherry was born on April 26, 1962. Sherry Shriner claimed to live in Carrollton, Ohio. The Sherry Wilde in the video often sounds a bit like Sherry Shriner, regarding content and voice-inflection. Both Sherry Shriner and Sherry Wilde claimed to have heart-problems, claimed to be under-attack, and claimed to be poisoned. Sherry Shriner was born on December 11, 1965. https://www.mylife.com/sherry-shriner/sherry-shriner Here is the link to the Sherry Wilde (of West Carrollton, Ohio) obituary. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dayton/obituary.aspx?pid=184211958

    WILDE, Sherry A. 54, of West Carrollton, passed away unexpectedly on February 19, 2017 at her home. She was born on April 26, 1962 to Elgin and Janice (Knoble) Olson in Anoka, MN. In September of 1985, she married Drew Wilde and they lived in West Carrollton, Ohio. In addition to her parents, Sherry is survived by her loving husband, Drew; sons, Joshua (Jodi) and Shannon; sister, Michelle; brother, Stephen; grandchildren, Kaden, Kinley, Kyler, and Evy; mother-in-law, Beverly; sister-in-law, Debra; nephew, William, as well as many other relatives and friends. Sherry was a very giving person and proof that angels do exist. A gathering will be held on Saturday, February 25, 2017 from 3:00 - 4:00 pm with a memorial service following at 4:00 pm at Newcomer Funeral Home & Crematory, 3940 Kettering Blvd., Kettering, OH 45439. To leave a special message for the family online, please visit www.NewcomerDayton.com. Published in Dayton Daily News on Feb. 22, 2017

    What's a bit strange to me is that I had my open-heart surgery on February 24, 2017, and a couple of days later I indirectly encountered an older-lady who reminded me of my conceptualizations of who might REALLY run Earth (and possibly the Solar System). She seemed to have extreme-importance and a tough-manner, but that's all I'm going to say about that. A few weeks later, while I was leaving the hospital, following a follow-up visit, I encountered a 'Matrix Oracle' sort of person, who claimed to be suffering from cancer. I gave her a couple of dollars for the bus, but she went right back into the hospital, instead of waiting for the bus. Here is the Sherry Wilde video. Remember, the Obituary Sherry was supposedly born on April 26, 1962, and the Video Sherry was born on December 25, 1950. This is the sort of thing which has been happening to me for years!! It's never really conclusive, but what are the odds?? Some of you NSA and CIA Guys and Gals probably know the whole-story, and are laughing at me!! Notice in my previous-post on this thread, that I said that listening to Sherry Shriner's show had been a 'Wild Ride'. Has it been a 'Wilde Ride'?? I know a lady who was having surgery a couple of miles from where I was having surgery, at the same time, but I didn't know about this until many months later. Again, what are the odds?? Here is Sherry Shriner's classic 'Paul-Bashing' show on July 7, 2014. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2014/07/08/07-07-14-monday-night-with-sherry-shriner Here is Sherry Shriner's last-show on January 5, 2018. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2018/01/05/01-05-18-blacklisted-news-and-bible-prophecy






    Here is a partial answer to the question "Who Is Sherry Shriner?" http://sherryshriner.com/sherry/intro.htm A lot of people send me emails asking me, "Who are you?"  Well frankly, I hate talking about myself so I've copied and pasted here the Introduction I wrote for my first book..naturally all the chapters of this book are listed on this website for free as articles. You can even listen to the book for free at http://www.sherryaudios.com  I would never charge money for something the Lord has revealed to me or told me to tell others. The books are a convenience for those who didn't want to read the info on a computer but wanted it in book form. Bible Codes Revealed: The Coming UFO Invasion By Sherry Shriner.

       It would stand at the foot of my bed and stare at me as I lay trying to sleep. Fear and sheer terror would grip every muscle and bone I had. It was at least 7 feet tall, dark, and evil. It wore a pitch black cape that completely covered its body from head to toe. I would shrivel under my blankets and pray for it to go away. I did not know what it was other than feeling it was some evil being straight from hell and I certainly did not know what it wanted. Night terrors are real.

       I continued to be haunted throughout childhood of this evil, demonic being scaring me at night. Often I would also see other shorter, creepy, black shadows move throughout the room whenever I was trying to sleep. I was too scared to move or even breathe for that matter. Going to sleep for me would mean to close my eyes and keep them closed just so I did not have to look at them however I could always feel their presence when they were around.  I developed a keen sense to know when demonic beings were around me even if I could not see them and yet I did not know how to get away from them or what to do about it. I would just pray for the Most High to protect me.

        Later in life, I would learn as an adult that the tall one was one of Lucifer’s generals sent to kill  me. I did not know who they were, but these beings knew who I was. From the time I was born, Lucifer knew I had a prophetic calling on my life, and that as an adult, I would grow up to become one of his arch enemies. I would learn as an adult how to expose, attack, and tear down his strongholds that he would create to control and destroy mankind. To prevent this from happening, he had assigned one of his top ranking generals to kill me.

        Lucifer is on a mission to control the world as the Antichrist. I am on a mission to make it as miserable as possible for him. I despise him.  

       My mission started by being born to a God fearing family in Cleveland, Ohio during the winter of 1965. From my earliest childhood memories, I cannot remember a time when I did not know who Jesus was. I have loved Him since I can remember. When I was two years old, I was proclaiming His Name. I would become re-born in Him at the age of five. My life has been a journey from wondering how to become closer to Him to learning and building that close relationship that no one could ever replace.  My true love in life was and has always been God Himself.

           As time passed, I was enrolled in private Christian schools and had attended church almost every Sunday during the 18 years I lived with my parents. But as I was growing up through churchianity or simply the system of religion, I always felt there was something missing. I was miserable and I could not figure out why.

          Although I loved Jesus, I hated religion. There was just something wrong with the whole thing, and I could not put my finger on it at the time. Out of 100,000 plus denominations, by luck, I had landed in the denomination that had everything right, and everyone else was wrong. Yes, I am being sarcastic.

          But for these reasons, I have always been a nonconformist, and it has been an uphill battle to be forced to live in a world of conformity. As a child, I was the black sheep, the rebellious one who would not conform and believe what I was told to believe simply because I was supposed to believe it. I knew there were doctrinal errors in the churches, which was clear from a young age. I had found my own mind. I had my own views and my own thoughts, and I was determined to keep them even if they had to stay my own. And yet at times, I did not even know where they were coming from or why I had them.

          By the age of 12 I had read the Bible from front to back, being partial to the book of Revelation. Not fully understanding much of the book, the beast rising out of the sea with 7 heads and 10 horns fascinated me.  By the age of 18, I had probably read the Bible more times than most pastors and had repeatedly read several of the Old and New Testament books.

          I became an avid student of Bible prophecy. I could not get enough of hearing about end time events, the arrival of the Antichrist, and ultimately, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. It was also during those early pre-teen years that I had read my first Bible prophecy book which I had taken off my dad's bookshelf. Reading Hal Lindsey’s Late Great Planet Earth not only changed my life, but seemed to give me direction. I identified with it, and it seemed to define who I was and who I would later become. As I read the pages of end time events, I knew I would be involved in these events and that I would be a warrior in the last days for the Most High God.

           Bible prophecy has always had a strong hold over my life. I can not escape it.  I was born for these last days. I was born to be a warrior. For this reason Lucifer had targeted me as a child for death. He had sent his forces to intimidate me and keep me from discovering my relationship with Yahweh or from achieving what I was destined to become. He didn’t succeed then, and he still hasn’t. And every day live, I use to fight against him and the kingdom he is trying to establish here in some way.  

          From the first time I had heard about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, I was hooked. That is all I cared to hear about. That is all I wanted to hear about. Nothing else about religion interested me much. I had seen enough and experienced enough of it daily to know religion itself was hypocritical. Religion was a road paved with good intentions but rarely traveled correctly by anyone on it. Most people in the churches just seemed pretentious and fake and more centered around man, materialism, and gossip circles than God Himself. And to question theology and beliefs was almost blasphemous to them. By typical churchianity standards, I was certainly going to go to hell if I didn’t believe everything the church taught and the way they taught it.

         I also learned at a young age that other people didn’t experience quite the same things as I did. Looking back, I can now see that I was just more in tune with the spiritual world than anyone else I knew. Of course, as a child, you wouldn’t know what that was. So I learned to keep things to myself and not talk about the things that scared me or the monsters I saw or felt near me.  The mere mention of monsters was sure to bring fits of hysterical laughter from others. And it always did.  

           As I grew up, the beings from hell never went away. They were always stalking me, but I no longer feared them either. I learned that by calling on the Name of the Lord, they would leave, and if they did not I just ignored them. If I moved, they followed. When I was in college, I didn't notice them much, if at all. I do not know if they went away or if I was just too busy to notice. It seems back then, I never just went to bed. I simply passed out from exhaustion. It was when I was in college at Liberty Baptist University in Lynchburg, Virginia that I began a career in radio news. I became the campus radio news director after my first year. During that time, I landed my first job at a radio station in Lynchburg, Virginia as a political news reporter and announcer. At the same time, I also served as an intern political correspondent with a competing station under an alias in Roanoke, Virginia. I was having fun. It had been a long time dream to have a career in television news broadcasting. Radio would be a way to break into it and give me experience and a chance to build my resume. My experience at Liberty University culminated with several journalism awards.

          After two years in Virginia, I transferred to Kent State University where I was elected to become the director of their campus radio news department. During that time, I also took a job with a local newspaper focusing on political news. I graduated in 1991 with degrees in Criminal Justice, Journalism, and Political Science.

         Shortly after graduating, I moved to Washington D.C. and found there were not any doors opening for me at all. I had my eyes set on the Washington bureau of CNN. The Atlanta bureau had suggested with my political news reporting experience that I get into the Washington bureau. However the Washington bureau said I did not have enough experience. I was going in circles and without any real options. I decided to move back to Ohio and got married shortly after. It was not too long after that when I realized they were back. And it was then that I finally just had enough of them. It was time to find out who they were and why they were stalking me.

          I was married, unemployed, had my first child, and was finally staring reality in the face. It was time to confront who these demonic beings were and what they wanted with me.  

         I embarked on an intense research over the next 5 years into spiritual warfare, hell, demons, Satan, and continued into my favorite areas of end time events and last days prophecies. I studied the deception in the churches, UFOs, government black operations, the New World Order, and much, much more. I went into many different areas and began to learn that the faces of our government and military were much different from their backsides. At the same time, I started to research and learn about spiritual warfare, something the churches just seem to ignore. I learned about hell, and demons, and how to fight against these forces. I went to war against the general, and his forces assigned to me, and I haven’t seen them since. We have power in the Name of Jesus to cast demonic beings into the abyss, and once I learned that, it can became quite an easy task to just kick anything evil around me into the abyss.  

          As a result, I began to pray daily that the Lord would show and teach me what He wanted me to learn and know. I would ask Him to teach me the truth in all things and to reveal the mysteries of His kingdom to me. And I still pray this almost daily.

         My research would culminate over the years into an enormous journey of unraveling conspiracies and lies in our government and churches. Five years turned into ten and I just kept going and have not stopped since. In 1994 I would begin to have visions from God and did not recognize what they were. It would take me a long time to realize that the strange things I were seeing were visions from the Lord Himself.

         From this experience, I learned that it takes the heart of a truth seeker to really get to know Yahweh.  As you start abandoning and letting go of preconceived ideas and beliefs and realize all the error of being spoon fed by dogma and religion, only then can He teach you, but not until you stop telling Him what the truth is with your words and your actions. And that is what I had to learn, to let everything go, and let Him teach me from the ground up. I had to build my foundation just in Him and on Him and not from my own self obtained knowledge or what man had taught me.  

         Most importantly, during this time, I learned how to have the one thing that I had always felt missing, an intimate relationship with Yahweh Himself. I learned the difference between having head knowledge of Him and heart knowledge of Him. I learned what it was to go into the proverbial wilderness with Him and just sit at His feet and learn who He is and how to hear His voice. He then became, and still is, my main source for information. If I want to know something, I ask Him. I seek Him direct for the answer. I get up every day and I ask Him to teach me the truth in all things and to reveal the mysteries of His kingdom to me. I ask Him to lead and guide my thoughts. I have learned what it truly means to be walking in His Spirit. Being in His Spirit does not mean speaking in gibberish that is not from Him. It means becoming one with Him in Spirit by seeking Him and walking with Him and learning how to hear His voice and recognize His leading and how He works. When you learn who He is, you learn what He is not, allowing the deceptions around you to be magnified and exposed for what they are. You can see them, recognize them, and know what is or is not of Him.

         There is nothing special about me. I just love Him, and I am committed to Him. As He continued over the years to give me visions and prophecies and reveal future events to me, I began to create websites revealing the information I learned through Him and from His leading. Today I have 12 websites on the Internet, and a blogger and as the days come to a close I am busy fulfilling my calling and destiny in Him. I have worked hard building and maintaining websites over the years to educate and inform His people to what has gone on, is going on, or what is coming, and I won't stop until He says it is time to. And as my enemies can attest, I can not be intimidated either. I have received several death threats over the years and have posted some of them on my websites out of amusement. Mostly, I ignore them. I do not fear Lucifer, and certainly, I do not fear man. The Lord is my strength.

         In 2001, I was led by the Lord to buy a Bible Codes program and learn how to search for and analyze codes. I had no idea what I was doing, and it was very complicated to learn. There were many times I wanted to just give up, but He would keep me at it, and He began to show me how to operate the program, how to look up terms, and how to analyze what I was finding. In essence, He basically taught me how to decode the Bible Himself. I learned how to decode my own name and I confirmed that the Lord had anointed me to decode His Word, I learned more about my calling in Him and who I was, and why I was born. I learned that I was His messenger, an emissary and a mouthpiece for Him in these last days. I was called to be a Watchman, a Prophet, and a warrior for Him. The Lord even told me and then showed me in His records that I was King David’s grand daughter

          When He revealed this to me in 2004, things began to make sense. For years Yahweh would always tell me I reminded Him of David. One day He said to me, “You remind Me of your grandfather.” And I asked, “Which one?” And He said, “David.” When He said that, I was not just shocked. I was completely floored! I had seen royalty terms all over my Bible Code, but I had no idea I was related to King David. He told me to go into the codes, and I would find it. Sure enough, I did.  .

         The codes also explained the boldness and lack of fear I had developed in fighting against Lucifer and his new world order. As my ancient grandfather King David fought the giants in his day without fear, I too had stepped forward to fight against the giants in these last days without fear. I had come a long way from being a child who would hide under her blankets.

          Without God's anointing and direction, I do not even think it is possible to get very far in understanding or decoding Bible Codes accurately. It is very difficult and not something you can even do without discernment. Sure, there are those who try to decode and even publish their results but I have found very few that are really led by Him to do them. Most interpreters decode out of their own interest and curiosity and make a multitude of mistakes.  

          Finding a Bible Code is half the battle. You have to know how to accurately read and analyze the information and understand how the Hebrew language uses terms. Without the Lord’s anointing and key to decoding, I would not be the decoder I am today. He has given me a key to the codes. When He told me He had given me a key to the codes, I did not really understand the extent of what He had said until I saw the work of many other decoders and their little if not complete lack of understanding of how the codes really work.

          Over the years, God has revealed to me through the codes His records and the plans of mankind. I have learned how to use the codes to unravel daily events and find the truth in them about what is really happening and in the process, expose the media and government lies that are being told to the public. I have also learned how to expose the events that are planned for the future by Lucifer, including the organizations, governments and secret societies working to bring him into power.  One thing is certain, the government lies and uses the media as a mere tool for their deceit. And it has been my experience that being an accurate decoder makes a person a prime target of their surveillance.  

         In 2002 the Lord specifically led me into what I have termed the Alien Agenda and has revealed much information to me about the coming UFO and Alien invasion to America and our Earth. He has shown and continues to show me different routes being taken to spearhead the arrival of end time events and what they really are, as opposed to what the churches and prophecy gurus teach. The Lord has shown me and led me to expose the plans of those who are involved in the various groups within governments, which are unified around the world and competing against one another to bring Satan to power as the Antichrist. More importantly, He has shown me how to tear down their strongholds.

        In 2003, the Lord told me “You will speak to the Nations.” The Lord is using me to wake up, warn, and teach His people about coming events and has said, “Lead My people back to Me,”  which has become my mandate and one of my messages to the world today. Come back to the Most High God!

         In 2004, He proclaimed, “I am raising you up as a Prophet to the Nations.” Today over 116 countries visit my websites on a daily basis, and as of this writing, over 100 countries are listening to my internet radio show athttp://www.sherrytalkradio.com

    As an internet radio show host, I expose the Luciferian New World Order, UFOs, Aliens, the Alien agenda, the coming UFO invasion, Planet X, NESARA, the deceptions in the churches, and the coming of the Antichrist to power.  Other than with Him at my side, I do it almost alone.

       Personal donations help me cover the costs of my websites and radio shows, but I do not have webmasters to design or run my websites, nor do I have a radio producer to prepare my shows or help me put them together, nor can I afford to pay for them. I am just a voice in the wilderness who He has called to stand up against the strongholds of the devil and the New World Order in these last days. I have several venues in doing this, and I am using every one of them to wake up God’s sleeping people and sound the alarms concerning what is coming.  

         It has become evident you will not learn the truth in the churches today.  The cycle of error and deception has continued through every age since Constantine and the Council of Nicea in 325A.D. Most churches today are graveyards for the spiritually dead. It is the churches that are the "Whores of Babylon” and it is America who is modern day Babylon.

         Furthermore, most people are clueless concerning what will really happen in the last days and even regarding Yahweh Himself. They do not understand how to have a real relationship with Him because they have allowed their churches to take the place of Him, and they simply do not know how to seek Him. They think reading the Bible and praying is all they need to do, and in this book, I am going to open your eyes as to how you can have a more intimate relationship with Him. Jesus said the last days would be as the days of Noah. The problem is that most churches do not teach nor realize what those days were really like. It was an Alien Agenda then, and it is the same one now, but I am going to reveal what the Lord has shown me and what is really going on behind the scenes in our world today. If you believe our country is one nation under God, prepare to be shocked.

          The aliens from the past have hidden themselves from the public view. Nevertheless, they are ready to come back into dominance in these last days as the armies of the Antichrist. Eventually a full blown invasion will occur, and it is coming sooner than you think. The rise of the Antichrist is around the corner. Have the governments and the churches of the world been secretly working together to bring him to power? Have they worked together to suppress and silence prophets of old such as Enoch so those today would not recognize the aliens for who they are? When you are done reading this book your eyes will be opened to the truth that the Lord has revealed to me. (The chapters in this book are available on this website as articles.)


    "Then Shall the Sanctuary Be Vindicated
    and
    Restored To It's Rightful State!!"






    burgundia wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:This is a bit strange. I just happened to watch this 'Flat-Earth' video last night, just a few hours after it appeared, and when I saw that another post had been added to this thread, I just knew it would be that 'Flat Earth' video!! I won't get involved with 'Astral-Projection', 'Regression-Hypnosis', 'Ouija Boards', 'Seances', 'Psychics', 'Televangelists', 'Reprobates', 'Papists', 'Molesters', 'Heretics', or 'Charlatans'. Siriusly, I think Earth is probably a Ball, but I doubt that we REALLY Understand the Solar System and Our Predicament.




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    Hotel California
    Eagles
    On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
    Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air
    Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light
    My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
    I had to stop for the night
    There she stood in the doorway
    I heard the mission bell
    And I was thinking to myself
    'This could be heaven or this could be Hell
    Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
    There were voices down the corridor
    I thought I heard them say
    Welcome to the Hotel California
    Such a lovely place (such a lovely place)
    Such a lovely face
    Plenty of room at the Hotel California
    Any time of year (any time of year) you can find it here
    Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes Benz
    She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys, that she calls friends
    How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat
    Some dance to remember, some dance to forget
    So I called up the Captain
    'Please bring me my wine
    He said, "we haven't had that spirit here since nineteen sixty-nine
    And still those voices are calling from far away
    Wake you up in the middle of the night
    Just to hear them say"
    Welcome to the Hotel California
    Such a lovely place (such a lovely place)
    Such a lovely face
    They livin' it up at the Hotel California
    What a nice surprise (what a nice surprise), bring your alibis
    Mirrors on the ceiling
    The pink champagne on ice
    And she said, 'we are all just prisoners here, of our own device
    And in the master's chambers
    They gathered for the feast
    They stab it with their steely knives
    But they just can't kill the beast
    Last thing I remember, I was
    Running for the door
    I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
    'Relax' said the night man
    'We are programmed to receive
    You can check out any time you like
    But you can never leave!
    Songwriters: DON FELDER, DON HENLEY, GLENN FREY
    ©️ Cass County Music / Wisteria Music / Privet Music, Warner/Chappell Music, Inc.,
    Universal Music Publishing Group, Red Cloud Music


    Stairway To Heaven
    Led Zeppelin
    There's a lady who's sure
    All that glitters is gold
    And she's buying a stairway to heaven
    When she gets there she knows
    If the stores are all closed
    With a word she can get what she came for
    Oh oh oh oh and she's buying a stairway to heaven
    There's a sign on the wall
    But she wants to be sure
    'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings
    In a tree by the brook
    There's a songbird who sings
    Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiving
    Ooh, it makes me wonder
    Ooh, it makes me wonder
    There's a feeling I get
    When I look to the west
    And my spirit is crying for leaving
    In my thoughts I have seen
    Rings of smoke through the trees
    And the voices of those who standing looking
    Ooh, it makes me wonder
    Ooh, it really makes me wonder
    And it's whispered that soon, If we all call the tune
    Then the piper will lead us to reason
    And a new day will dawn
    For those who stand long
    And the forests will echo with laughter
    If there's a bustle in your hedgerow
    Don't be alarmed now
    It's just a spring clean for the May queen
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by
    But in the long run
    There's still time to change the road you're on
    And it makes me wonder
    Your head is humming and it won't go
    In case you don't know
    The piper's calling you to join him
    Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow
    And did you know
    Your stairway lies on the whispering wind
    And as we wind on down the road
    Our shadows taller than our soul
    There walks a lady we all know
    Who shines white light and wants to show
    How everything still turns to gold
    And if you listen very hard
    The tune will come to you at last
    When all are one and one is all
    To be a rock and not to roll
    And she's buying the stairway to heaven
    Songwriters: JIMMY PAGE, ROBERT PLANT
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    Take a close look at the last dozen posts. I probably lead you to the edge of the Truth, without crossing a lot of forbidden lines. If I were too precise, relentless, and accurate, things might get REALLY Nasty. Actually, that might happen anyway. I still have very-little true-knowledge of what's REALLY Going On, and I probably wish to keep it that way. Try taking a very-close look at Genesis, Deuteronomy, Psalms, Proverbs, I & 2 Corinthians, with a special-emphasis on Ethics, Law, and the Kingdom of God. I'm feeling unbelievably bad about my quest. This goes beyond the usual misery. I've honestly passively-pursued a weak-hypothesis regarding the governance of the universe (in general) and this solar system (in particular). This has been anything but a 'Pinky and the Brain' Plot to 'Take Over the World'. It has simply been a feeble attempt to resolve the Matrix of Confusion. But, what if this Sad State of Affairs is somehow-necessary, especially if we knew the Whole-History of This Solar System and the Souls Occupying It?? What if Earth is an Ancient Prison-Planet which was turned into a Sociological-Experiment of Biblical-Proportions?? What if the starting-point was anything but ideal?? What if the Myth of Innocence in the Garden of Eden is Utter-Bullshit?? What if ALL of US are Guilty as Hell (going way back)?? I have very-little evidence, but considering as many possibilities as possible might be the best (or only) way to ascertain the truth of the matter. Or does it matter (as long as we 'Eat the Flesh, Drink the Blood, and Get Back to Work')??

    My Idealistic Pursuit of the Truth Seems to be Misconstrued As a Reprehensible Propensity Toward Unrighteousness. It's been hinted that I was a warrior in at least one previous life, and that I'm not doing well in a non-warrior role. Perhaps I should be a warrior in my next life. Who Knows?? What Would Enki Say?? What Would Enlil Say?? What if Enki is David Bowman aka Peter Venkman?? What if Enlil is HAL 9000?? 'RA' mockingly asked me "Are You Ready to Run Things??" I answered "No. It's Too Complicated." 'RA' told me "If You Try to Save Humanity, You'll Be Sorry!!" What if this was in reference to Ancient-Verdicts and Artificial-Intelligence with Unalterable-Timelines and Irreversible-Punishment?? In 'Hotel California', consider the words "And she said, 'we are all just prisoners here, of our own device'." Is this a cryptic-reference to "We Live In a Device-Managed Prison-Planet" and/or "It's Our Fault We're Imprisoned Here" and/or "We're Prisoners Managed By Our OWN Ancient Supercomputer-Network"?? One of the 2009-11 'V' episode-titles was "We Can't Win." What if Anna and the V's (along with their Huge-Spaceships and Fancy-Technology) Were All About Supercomputers linked to Artificial-Intelligence Reptilian-Human Hybrids Specifically-Engineered in Antiquity to Manage and Punish Humanity?? What if the Moon is the Command-Spaceship of the Solar System?? I've said it repeatedly, but I think we probably went to the Moon, but probably not with the Apollo equipment we were shown. They might've had to fake the Moon-Mission beyond Low-Earth Orbit to conceal the equipment and methodology which REALLY got us to the Moon!! What if the Overt and Covert Space-Programs Are NOT For Us?? The Moon might be One HUGE Spaceship!! We might've been on the Moon before we arrived in this Solar System, and before we became Human-Beings!! Who Knows?? The Shadow-Government?? What if the Solar System Singularity is David Bowman aka Peter Venkman and His and/or Her Supercomputer-Network aka HAL 9000?? What if the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' is that Hypothetical Ancient Supercomputer-Network?? What if the 'Serpent' is a Hypothetical Artificial-Intelligence Human-Reptilian Hybrid (Linked to the Aforementioned Ancient Supercomputer-Network)?? What if this combination is the Ancient and Modern Monolith in '2001: A Space Odyssey'?? 'RA' told me "I Can't Talk About the NSA" and "I Don't Need to Sleep". A FIZU Was 'RA's' Dream-Car (but I always drove). Do You See Why I'm a Blue Boy?? What Would Thomas Gainsborough Say?? What Would Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer Say?? What If These Are Job-Titles Rather Than Proper-Names?? What Would HAL Say?? What Would COR Say?? What Would DAV Say?? What Would Dr. Who Do?? Who?? I will attempt to retain Responsible-Neutrality in this sensitive and controversial matter.

    A couple of years ago, I encountered someone who reminded me of a middle-aged Arvella Schuller (as strange as that sounds). This person also reminded me of a particular black woman I encountered months (or years?) previously. They both seemed to be extremely intelligent -- rather quiet -- with a lot on their mind. They both reminded me of Senator Elise Voudreau of Babylon 5. They both reminded me of Rachel Constantine in Contact. A genuine-insider told me that Arvella ran the Crystal Cathedral. Consider the similarities between S.R. Haddon (Contact) -- the "Father" (East of Eden) -- Mr. Edgars (Fourth and Fifth Seasons of Babylon 5) -- and a mysterious Individual of Interest I have encountered (who the Ancient Egyptian Deity knew about -- and who I seem to know from somewhere). I don't say any of this lightly -- and I could say MUCH -- but I'd rather not. I live under a self-imposed code of ethics and relative-silence. You'd almost have to be an insider to understand what I'm really talking about within this thread. This is sort of an "Open Back-Channel". Anyone can access it -- but probably very few can understand it. It's easier that way. I sometimes think it would be cool to have a 600 square-foot office-apartment in a Ritz-Carlton (perhaps with a secret elevator leading to a mag-lev train-station and/or an underground-base)!! The imagination is a wonderful thing -- but I doubt that the reality would be wonderful. Probably just the opposite.

    Carol wrote:

    Dr. Michael Salla, Exopolitics.org 5-12-15… “Extraterrestrial alliance
    helps secret space program overcome opposition to full disclosure”

    https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2015/05/12/currently-involved-on-other-projects-but-feel-free-to-read-this-from-michael-salla/

    Corey Goode (aka GoodETxSG) has revealed more about his claimed contact experiences with a group of extraterrestrials called the Sphere Alliance that is cooperating with an alliance of secret space programs indigenous to Earth. He has earlier revealed that there are five secret space programs belonging to our current Earth civilization, as well as between five to seven space programs belonging to ancient human civilizations that are still operating. Several of these secret space programs indigenous to Earth make up what he calls the Secret Space Program (SSP) Alliance, which should not be confused with the Sphere Alliance which he claims comprise five different extraterrestrials races that are here to assist humanity deal with an upcoming “Event” that will change life dramatically on the planet.

    Corey claims to have attended several off-planet meetings where three of these extraterrestrial races belonging to the Sphere Alliance, have appeared. The alien race which he has communicated with the most is called the Blue Avians – one of whom he met with as recently as this past weekend is called “Tear-Eir”. In addition to his recent contact experiences, Corey also claims to have earlier served, from 1987 to 2007 with several secret space programs as an Intuitive Empath. In an earlier question and answer email exchange, Corey described the five secret space programs as follows:

    Solar Warden –  mainly focused on policing the Solar System and surrounding Star Clusters;
    Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC) – focused mainly on development and aquisition of technology by any means.
    Dark Fleet – worked almost entirely outside the Sol System, Very Military (Offensive),
    “NATO TYPE SSP” – Recently in Alliance Conferences they were referred to as the “League of Nations Program.”
    Various Special Access Program SSP’s that were small, usually had the newer technology, very secretive and worked for some of the Secret Earth Governments

    In his answers to my most recent questions sent by email (see below), Corey describes why the Solar Warden space program, the first program to be established in the contemporary era, was picked by the Sphere Alliance to be given technological assistance. The Solar Warden Program along with the other programs belonging to the SSP Alliance have been given advanced technologies to neutralize the prior technological advantage of “negative” or “service-to-self” groups described as the Cabal/Illuminati, Draco Reptilians, etc.

    In addition, Corey addresses questions concerning the current political situation such as President Putin’s disappearance for 10 days (March 6-16) and the possibility that he secretly attended one of the Sphere Alliance meetings; President Obama’s March 12 comment about extraterrestrials controlling the US government; Pope Francis’ role with extraterrestrial disclosure; Edward Snowden acting with the tacit support of other NSA officials in releasing classified information; and the upcoming Sept 23 meeting between President Obama and Pope Francis.

    It’s worth mentioning that at this stage Corey has not given any documentary evidence to support his incredible claims, nor has anyone else come forward to confirm their participation in alleged meetings involving the Sphere Alliance and the 10-12 Secret Space Programs indigenous to Earth. Nevertheless, Corey has had a number of researchers who have come forward claiming that anonymous insiders have confirmed that Corey did indeed serve with one or more Secret Space Programs. The most prominent among them is David Wilcock who has given a number of presentations where he cites his exhaustive efforts through his insider contacts with knowledge of secret space programs to confirm Corey’s background.

    In my own case, I have heard from Randy Cramer (aka Captain Kaye) that what he has read so far of Corey’s testimony is consistent with his own 20 year experience with different secret space programs. In addition, to the similarities between Randy’s and Corey’s testimonies (described here), there are important similarities between Michael Relfe’s testimony of having served for 20 years on Mars in a secret space program from (1976-1996), and what Corey has revealed.

    Finally, I found Corey’s knowledge of a Secret Space Program that can be traced to the Mayan civilization as very impressive given my own personal experiences with a representative from such a program who secretly approached me in 2010. As I wrote in an earlier article, this was powerful personal corroboration that Corey’s testimony is genuine. Combined with the corroborating testimonies from other whistleblowers involved in secret space programs, I highly recommend considering Corey’s testimony as quite possibly the most comprehensive revelation of secret space programs and extraterrestrial intervention to have emerged to date.
    Consider, yet again, this previously posted KJV study-list:

    1. Job through Malachi.
    2. Romans through Jude.
    3. Prophets and Kings by Ellen White.
    4. The 1928 Book of Common Prayer.
    5. Sacred Classical Music.
    6. Peale and Schuller.
    7. The Medical--Military--Money Complex.
    8. The Prevention--Peace--Philanthropy Complex.

    I think it might be extremely important to overexpose oneself to all of the above -- for a variety of reasons -- some of which I'd rather not talk about. I mostly lead you (and myself) to the edge of truth -- such that only those with eyes to see, and ears to hear, are able to discern what the hell I'm talking about!! Notice that Prophets and Kings combined with the 1928 Book of Common Prayer -- fill in the gaps left by the focus upon Job through Malachi, and Romans through Jude. This is sort of a mosaic or potpourri. If some of you big-shots want to do something cool -- get an organist to give you a private concert at the Liverpool Anglican Cathedral -- and have them play the following music -- while you silently read all 150 of the Psalms!!

    1. Grand Piece Symphonique by Cesar Franck.
    2. The Fifth Symphony by Charles Marie Widor.
    3. The Sixth Symphony by Charles Marie Widor.
    4. The Passion Symphony by Marcel Dupre.

    I'm not an "organ-only" guy. I've just chosen to take a road less traveled. I mostly prefer an integration of organ, orchestra, choir, and congregation -- mostly just singing hymns. Some of you might find the exercise I suggested to even be a bit frightening. I didn't intend this to be a happy-clappy love-fest. It might even be considered to be sort of an initiation!! Just remember that the Sacred Must Become Secular -- and the Secular Must Become Sacred!! What Would Robert H. Schuller Say??

    B.B.Baghor wrote:ortho's words: "I wish to move-on to Clean Sheet of Stone Solutions -- but History must be properly handled -- so as to provide a Sustainable Foundation for New Theologies and Philosophies. For me -- studying theology is sort of like the guy who hits himself over the head with a hammer -- because it feels so good when he quits!!"

    Some parts of your posts, like the last sentence in this one above, could well fit in the Humour thread, ortho, You keep hitting the nail on its head, it seems, in your view on studying theology and other statements you make about how you manage and maintain your thread. If I've understood your explanations in your thread, ortho, your intention is to invite members and visitors here and to discuss its content and find understanding and clarity due to that.

    Thank-you B.B. All of this involves a rarely achieved understanding of the world, solar system, and universe -- which I suspect "Top-People" understand very clearly. This is NOT a touchy-feely support-group. This is a royal-model walk on the wild-side!! It involves a lot of experience and experiences -- along with material provided by others. What people (and other than people) do with this is up to them.

    I keep coming back at my trying to understand, what it is that you're looking for in your thread. I'm having a go at it and move forward, by groping and trying, no hunt for an answer as if the end of this discussion should be near. The question mark may remain in it, if you get what I mean. To me it looks like this, that you show up in your thread in two different ways (or roles, deliberately chosen?)

    I guess I'm attempting to give substance to my suppositions. This discussion might never end. This is about Revelation and Mystery. A "Space-Cowboy" Individual of Interest spoke to me about "Mystery" in an approving manner. They also spoke about the "good-side" of Anna in "V" in an approving manner. They spoke to me about pre-cognition and remote-viewing (with military-applications). They spoke to me about who should "really run the world". They spoke to me about how UFO's work (something about gravity and always falling). They spoke of wishing to construct a UFO. They spoke of working with the Pentagon. They spoke to me about Orion. They reminded me of the "Cowboy" in Mulholland Drive.

    At times you're the observer looking at its content from without, which seems to be the intention of the initial plan, with your US of the SS-Final Cut. At other times you're the person actively present in your thread, sharing your observations and feelings on how you see yourself doing and the probable futility of it in the eyes of others, as you seem to perceive may be the case.

    I pretend to be someone I'm not -- to create a Science-Fictional Psycho-Drama -- to make points which could not otherwise be made. This mostly seems to have fallen on "deaf-ears". It's probably mostly a personal-exercise which I am sharing with a few alphabet-interns. I wonder how many of them have gone nuts? I'm actually being somewhat serious.

    This seems to come from within you, ortho, as if it's felt that way, real time. If this is what you call "modelling", I can't say I understand what you mean by that and what it's purpose is. And besides, I'm not sure if that's what it is, ortho. Is it with the intention to share your large amount of documentation and views, to see if they're appreciated as subjects for a discussion? Without the need to find understanding, for this is already material that is understood by you?

    It sometimes seems as if I am "Channeling-Myself". I sometimes imagine myself in important historical, contemporary, and prophetic roles -- so as to provide myself and others with rare-insights into the "Way Things Might've Been or Might Be" as the "Saddest Words That Fingers Can Type". I've actually found some remarkable evidences that I might be some sort of a "Significant Historical Soul" -- but I have no idea whether that would be a good-thing, or not. Some of my questions are rhetorical -- but most are inquisitive. I keep hoping that the right-individuals will systematically and exhaustively answer my many questions (here or in some other context).

    Or is your need of understanding, with the help of discussions, that you welcome here? I risk wrapping conclusions around my questioning here, due to a groping for my understanding. Forgive me if that's perceived that way, by you, ortho. This is the thing, you see, we always have to deal with being at risk in misunderstanding, for the difficulty of only exchanging views in this virtual way. I can imagine there must be some sort of strong drive in you, connected to an urge to find a way to a life with purpose. To me, it seems to be like this, that you feel the clarity for finding it is present outside of you.

    I doubt that I will find a "Purposeful-Life" in "Real-Life" so I am forced to construct a "Significant-Existence" in Cyberspace as some sort of a "Cyberspace-Cowboy". I am often forced to bring discussions from other threads into this thread -- so as to artificially manufacture conversation within this particular thread. I often seem to be "shunned" on this site -- and in "real-life".

    To me, at times, there seems to have happened a reversal of priorities, in the way you handle your thread, as if the exploring and research that you do, have moved to the first position, as a goal in itself. For I see you asking questions, asking questions about the asked questions, ignoring investigations by others sometimes due to the insistent questioning popping up in you. At times, reading parts of your posts, I wonder if there are answers that will satisfy you, if they're searched for.

    The Rare Responses by Others are often catalysts for further questioning and speculation. Most of the material on this thread is the work of others (ignored or otherwise). Responses are sometimes off-topic -- and I seek to stay on track -- which might appear to be ignoring various responders. Thinking deeply about the words of others does not always produce direct-responses from me. I'm sometimes a bit like a psychiatrist or psychologist asking leading questions. Jesus asked a lot of questions. Consider reading Jesus: An Interview Across Time by Dr. Andrew G. Hodges. http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Interview-Psychiatrist-Christs-Humanity/dp/0825427908

    I truly wonder what will happen if you at any given moment will find an answer or give up this quest, quieting that mind of yours. I don't mean to suggest that you should stop posting, ortho, I simply wonder in what way your arrival at the end of your quest, feeling that you've found the answers you need, will affect you. Do you expect to feel you will miss the ponder and wonder, the multifaceted way of reflecting on topics that you express in your thread here in the Mists? It's a genuine question, I hope you will perceive it that way Cheerful

    The quest will probably become so dark and controversial that I will be forced to not talk about it publicly or privately. This thing might honestly end in tragedy and great sorrow. I'm NOT expecting a happy-ending.
    Wine is a mocker , strong drink is raging : and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise .  2 The fear of a king is as the roaring of a lion: whoso provoketh him to anger sinneth against his own soul.  3 It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling .  4 The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; therefore shall he beg in harvest, and have nothing.  5 Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out .  6 Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness: but a faithful man who can find ?  7 The just man walketh in his integrity: his children are blessed after him.  8 A king that sitteth in the throne of judgment scattereth away all evil with his eyes.  9 Who can say , I have made my heart clean , I am pure from my sin?  10 Divers weights , and divers measures , both of them are alike abomination to the LORD.  11 Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.  12 The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.  13 Love not sleep, lest thou come to poverty ; open thine eyes, and thou shalt be satisfied with bread.  14 It is naught, it is naught, saith the buyer : but when he is gone his way, then he boasteth .  

    15 There is gold, and a multitude of rubies: but the lips of knowledge are a precious jewel.  16 Take his garment that is surety for a stranger : and take a pledge of him for a strange woman.  17 Bread of deceit is sweet to a man; but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel.  18 Every purpose is established by counsel: and with good advice make war.  19 He that goeth about as a talebearer revealeth secrets: therefore meddle not with him that flattereth with his lips.  20 Whoso curseth his father or his mother, his lamp shall be put out in obscure  darkness.  21 An inheritance may be gotten hastily at the beginning; but the end thereof shall not be blessed .  22 Say not thou, I will recompense evil; but wait on the LORD, and he shall save thee.  23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.  24 Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?  25 It is a snare to the man who devoureth that which is holy, and after vows to make enquiry .  26 A wise king scattereth the wicked, and bringeth the wheel over them.  27 The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.  28 Mercy and truth preserve the king: and his throne is upholden by mercy.  29 The glory of young men is their strength: and the beauty of old men is the gray head.  30 The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.

    The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will .  2 Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts.  3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.  4 An high look, and a proud heart, and the plowing of the wicked, is sin.  5 The thoughts of the diligent tend only to plenteousness; but of every one that is hasty only to want.  6 The getting of treasures by a lying tongue is a vanity tossed to and fro of them that seek death.  7 The robbery of the wicked shall destroy them; because they refuse to do judgment.  8 The way of man is froward and strange: but as for the pure, his work is right.  9 It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling  woman in a wide house.  10 The soul of the wicked desireth evil: his neighbour findeth no favour in his eyes.  11 When the scorner is punished , the simple is made wise : and when the wise is instructed , he receiveth knowledge.  12 The righteous man wisely considereth the house of the wicked: but God overthroweth the wicked for their wickedness.  13 Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall not be heard .  14 A gift in secret pacifieth anger: and a reward in the bosom strong wrath.  15 It is joy to the just to do judgment: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.  

    16 The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.  17 He that loveth pleasure shall be a poor man: he that loveth wine and oil shall not be rich .  18 The wicked shall be a ransom for the righteous, and the transgressor for the upright.  19 It is better to dwell in the wilderness , than with a contentious  and an angry woman.  20 There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man spendeth it up .  21 He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, righteousness, and honour.  22 A wise man scaleth the city of the mighty, and casteth down the strength of the confidence thereof.  23 Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles.  24 Proud and haughty scorner is his name, who dealeth in proud wrath.  25 The desire of the slothful killeth him; for his hands refuse to labour .  26 He coveteth greedily all the day long: but the righteous giveth and spareth not.  27 The sacrifice of the wicked is abomination: how much more, when he bringeth it with a wicked mind?  28 A false witness shall perish : but the man that heareth speaketh constantly.  29 A wicked man hardeneth his face: but as for the upright, he directeth his way.  30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.  31 The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD.

    A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.  2 The rich and poor meet together : the LORD is the maker of them all.  3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on , and are punished .  4 By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honour, and life.  5 Thorns and snares are in the way of the froward: he that doth keep his soul shall be far from them.  6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old , he will not depart from it.  7 The rich ruleth over the poor , and the borrower is servant to the lender  .  8 He that soweth iniquity shall reap vanity: and the rod of his anger shall fail .  9 He that hath a bountiful eye shall be blessed ; for he giveth of his bread to the poor.  10 Cast out the scorner , and contention shall go out ; yea, strife and reproach shall cease .  11 He that loveth pureness  of heart, for the grace of his lips the king shall be his friend.  12 The eyes of the LORD preserve knowledge, and he overthroweth the words of the transgressor .  13 The slothful man saith , There is a lion without, I shall be slain in the streets.  14 The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.  

    15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.  16 He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want.  17 Bow down thine ear, and hear the words of the wise, and apply thine heart unto my knowledge.  18 For it is a pleasant thing if thou keep them within thee; they shall withal be fitted in thy lips.  19 That thy trust may be in the LORD, I have made known to thee this day, even to thee.  20 Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge,  21 That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee?  22 Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate:  23 For the LORD will plead their cause, and spoil the soul of those that spoiled them.  24 Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go :  25 Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.  26 Be not thou one of them that strike hands, or of them that are sureties for debts.  27 If thou hast nothing to pay , why should he take away thy bed from under thee?  28 Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set .  29 Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men.

    When thou sittest to eat with a ruler , consider diligently what is before thee:  2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite.  3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat.  4 Labour not to be rich : cease from thine own wisdom.  5 Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.  6 Eat thou not the bread of him that hath an evil eye, neither desire thou his dainty meats:  7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink , saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.  8 The morsel which thou hast eaten shalt thou vomit up , and lose thy sweet words.  9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.  10 Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:  11 For their redeemer is mighty; he shall plead their cause with thee.  12 Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.  13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die .  14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.  15 My son, if thine heart be wise , my heart shall rejoice , even mine.  16 Yea, my reins shall rejoice , when thy lips speak right things.  17 Let not thine heart envy sinners: but be thou in the fear of the LORD all the day long.  

    18 For surely there is an end; and thine expectation shall not be cut off .  19 Hear thou, my son, and be wise , and guide thine heart in the way.  20 Be not among winebibbers  ; among riotous eaters of flesh:  21 For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty : and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags.  22 Hearken unto thy father that begat thee, and despise not thy mother when she is old .  23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.  24 The father of the righteous shall greatly rejoice : and he that begetteth a wise child shall have joy of him.  25 Thy father and thy mother shall be glad , and she that bare thee shall rejoice .  26 My son, give me thine heart, and let thine eyes observe  my ways.  27 For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit.  28 She also lieth in wait as for a prey, and increaseth the transgressors among men.  29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions  ? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?  30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.  31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red , when it giveth his colour in the cup  , when it moveth itself aright.  32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.  33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women , and thine heart shall utter perverse things.  34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.  35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick ; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake ? I will seek it yet again.

    Be not thou envious against evil men, neither desire to be with them.  2 For their heart studieth destruction, and their lips talk of mischief.  3 Through wisdom is an house builded ; and by understanding it is established :  4 And by knowledge shall the chambers be filled with all precious and pleasant riches.  5 A wise man is strong; yea, a man of knowledge increaseth strength.  6 For by wise counsel thou shalt make thy war: and in multitude of counsellors there is safety.  7 Wisdom is too high for a fool: he openeth not his mouth in the gate.  8 He that deviseth to do evil shall be called a mischievous person.  9 The thought of foolishness is sin: and the scorner is an abomination to men.  10 If thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small.  11 If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain;  12 If thou sayest , Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?  13 My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste:  14 So shall the knowledge of wisdom be unto thy soul: when thou hast found it, then there shall be a reward, and thy expectation shall not be cut off .  15 Lay not wait , O wicked man, against the dwelling of the righteous; spoil not his resting place:  16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again : but the wicked shall fall into mischief.  

    17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth , and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth :  18 Lest the LORD see it, and it displease  him, and he turn away his wrath from him.  19 Fret not thyself because of evil men, neither be thou envious at the wicked;  20 For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out .  21 My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change :  22 For their calamity shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both?  23 These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment.  24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse , nations shall abhor him:  25 But to them that rebuke him shall be delight , and a good blessing shall come upon them.  26 Every man shall kiss his lips that giveth a right answer.  27 Prepare thy work without, and make it fit for thyself in the field; and afterwards build thine house.  28 Be not a witness against thy neighbour without cause; and deceive not with thy lips.  29 Say not, I will do so to him as he hath done to me: I will render to the man according to his work.  30 I went by the field of the slothful , and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;  31 And, lo, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down .  32 Then I saw , and considered it well  : I looked upon it, and received instruction.  33 Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep :  34 So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth ; and thy want as an armed man.

    These are also proverbs of Solomon, which the men of Hezekiah king of Judah copied out .  2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.  3 The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.  4 Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer .  5 Take away the wicked from before the king, and his throne shall be established in righteousness.  6 Put not forth thyself in the presence of the king, and stand not in the place of great men:  7 For better it is that it be said unto thee, Come up hither; than that thou shouldest be put lower in the presence of the prince whom thine eyes have seen .  8 Go not forth hastily to strive , lest thou know not what to do in the end thereof, when thy neighbour hath put thee to shame .  9 Debate thy cause with thy neighbour himself; and discover not a secret to another:  10 Lest he that heareth it put thee to shame , and thine infamy turn not away .  11 A word fitly  spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.  12 As an earring of gold, and an ornament of fine gold, so is a wise reprover upon an obedient ear.  13 As the cold of snow in the time of harvest, so is a faithful messenger to them that send him: for he refresheth the soul of his masters.  14 Whoso boasteth himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain.  

    15 By long forbearing is a prince persuaded , and a soft tongue breaketh the bone.  16 Hast thou found honey? eat so much as is sufficient for thee, lest thou be filled therewith, and vomit it.  17 Withdraw thy foot from thy neighbour's house; lest he be weary of thee, and so hate thee.  18 A man that beareth false witness against his neighbour is a maul, and a sword, and a sharp arrow.  19 Confidence in an unfaithful man in time of trouble is like a broken tooth, and a foot out of joint.  20 As he that taketh away a garment in cold weather, and as vinegar upon nitre, so is he that singeth songs to an heavy heart.  21 If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat ; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink :  22 For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.  23 The north wind driveth away rain: so doth an angry countenance a backbiting tongue.  24 It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, than with a brawling  woman and in a wide house.  25 As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is good news from a far country.  26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.  27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.  28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down , and without walls.

    As snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so honour is not seemly for a fool.  2 As the bird by wandering , as the swallow by flying , so the curse causeless shall not come .  3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.  4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.  5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.  6 He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage.  7 The legs of the lame are not equal : so is a parable in the mouth of fools.  8 As he that bindeth  a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool.  9 As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouth of fools.  10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors .  11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.  12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.  13 The slothful man saith , There is a lion in the way; a lion is in the streets.  

    14 As the door turneth upon his hinges, so doth the slothful upon his bed.  15 The slothful hideth his hand in his bosom; it grieveth him to bring it again to his mouth.  16 The sluggard is wiser in his own conceit than seven men that can render a reason.  17 He that passeth by , and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.  18 As a mad man who casteth firebrands, arrows, and death,  19 So is the man that deceiveth his neighbour, and saith , Am not I in sport ?  20 Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out : so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth .  21 As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious  man to kindle strife.  22 The words of a talebearer are as wounds , and they go down into the innermost parts of the belly.  23 Burning lips and a wicked heart are like a potsherd covered with silver dross.  24 He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him;  25 When he speaketh fair , believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart.  26 Whose hatred is covered by deceit, his wickedness shall be shewed before the whole congregation.  27 Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.  28 A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin.

    Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth .  2 Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.  3 A stone is heavy, and the sand weighty; but a fool's wrath is heavier than them both.  4 Wrath is cruel, and anger is outrageous; but who is able to stand before envy?  5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.  6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend ; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful .  7 The full soul loatheth an honeycomb; but to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet.  8 As a bird that wandereth from her nest, so is a man that wandereth from his place.  9 Ointment and perfume rejoice the heart: so doth the sweetness of a man's friend by hearty counsel.  10 Thine own friend, and thy father's friend, forsake not; neither go into thy brother's house in the day of thy calamity: for better is a neighbour that is near than a brother far off.  11 My son, be wise , and make my heart glad , that I may answer  him that reproacheth me.  12 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on , and are punished .  13 Take his garment that is surety for a stranger , and take a pledge of him for a strange woman.  

    14 He that blesseth his friend with a loud voice, rising early in the morning, it shall be counted a curse to him.  15 A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious  woman are alike .  16 Whosoever hideth her hideth the wind, and the ointment of his right hand, which bewrayeth itself.  17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.  18 Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof: so he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured .  19 As in water face answereth to face, so the heart of man to man.  20 Hell and destruction  are never full ; so the eyes of man are never satisfied .  21 As the fining pot for silver, and the furnace for gold; so is a man to his praise.  22 Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.  23 Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.  24 For riches are not for ever: and doth the crown endure to every generation?  25 The hay appeareth , and the tender grass sheweth itself, and herbs of the mountains are gathered .  26 The lambs are for thy clothing, and the goats are the price of the field.  27 And thou shalt have goats' milk enough for thy food, for the food of thy household, and for the maintenance for thy maidens.

    The wicked flee when no man pursueth : but the righteous are bold as a lion.  2 For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: but by a man of understanding and knowledge the state thereof shall be prolonged .  3 A poor man that oppresseth the poor is like a sweeping rain which leaveth no food.  4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.  5 Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.  6 Better is the poor that walketh in his uprightness, than he that is perverse in his ways, though he be rich.  7 Whoso keepeth the law is a wise son: but he that is a companion of riotous men shameth his father.  8 He that by usury and unjust gain increaseth his substance, he shall gather it for him that will pity the poor.  9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.  10 Whoso causeth the righteous to go astray in an evil way, he shall fall himself into his own pit: but the upright shall have good things in possession .  11 The rich man is wise in his own conceit; but the poor that hath understanding searcheth him out .  12 When righteous men do rejoice , there is great glory: but when the wicked rise , a man is hidden .  13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper : but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy .  

    14 Happy is the man that feareth alway: but he that hardeneth his heart shall fall into mischief.  15 As a roaring lion, and a ranging bear; so is a wicked ruler over the poor people.  16 The prince that wanteth understanding is also a great oppressor: but he that hateth covetousness shall prolong his days.  17 A man that doeth violence to the blood of any person shall flee to the pit; let no man stay him.  18 Whoso walketh uprightly shall be saved : but he that is perverse in his ways shall fall at once.  19 He that tilleth his land shall have plenty of bread: but he that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough.  20 A faithful man shall abound with blessings: but he that maketh haste to be rich shall not be innocent .  21 To have respect of persons is not good: for for a piece of bread that man will transgress .  22 He that hasteth to be rich hath an evil eye, and considereth not that poverty shall come upon him.  23 He that rebuketh a man afterwards shall find more favour than he that flattereth with the tongue.  24 Whoso robbeth his father or his mother, and saith , It is no transgression; the same is the companion of a destroyer  .  25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat .  26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered .  27 He that giveth unto the poor shall not lack: but he that hideth his eyes shall have many a curse.  28 When the wicked rise , men hide themselves: but when they perish , the righteous increase .

    He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed , and that without remedy.  2 When the righteous are in authority , the people rejoice : but when the wicked beareth rule , the people mourn .  3 Whoso loveth wisdom rejoiceth his father: but he that keepeth company with harlots spendeth his substance.  4 The king by judgment establisheth the land: but he that receiveth gifts overthroweth it.  5 A man that flattereth his neighbour spreadeth a net for his feet.  6 In the transgression of an evil man there is a snare: but the righteous doth sing and rejoice.  7 The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: but the wicked regardeth not to know it.  8 Scornful men bring a city into a snare : but wise men turn away wrath.  9 If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh , there is no rest.  10 The bloodthirsty  hate the upright: but the just seek his soul.  11 A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards.  12 If a ruler hearken to lies , all his servants are wicked.  13 The poor and the deceitful man meet together : the LORD lighteneth both their eyes.  

    14 The king that faithfully judgeth the poor, his throne shall be established for ever.  15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame .  16 When the wicked are multiplied , transgression increaseth : but the righteous shall see their fall.  17 Correct thy son, and he shall give thee rest ; yea, he shall give delight unto thy soul.  18 Where there is no vision, the people perish : but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.  19 A servant will not be corrected by words: for though he understand he will not answer.  20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.  21 He that delicately bringeth up his servant from a child shall have him become his son at the length.  22 An angry man stirreth up strife, and a furious man aboundeth in transgression.  23 A man's pride shall bring him low : but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.  24 Whoso is partner with a thief hateth his own soul: he heareth cursing, and bewrayeth it not.  25 The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe .  26 Many seek the ruler's favour; but every man's judgment cometh from the LORD.  27 An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.

    I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.  4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended ? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell ?  5 Every word of God is pure : he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.  6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar .  7 Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die :  8 Remove far from me vanity and lies  : give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:  9 Lest I be full , and deny thee, and say , Who is the LORD? or lest I be poor , and steal , and take the name of my God in vain.  10 Accuse not a servant unto his master, lest he curse thee, and thou be found guilty .  11 There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.  12 There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.  13 There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up .  14 There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.  15 The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give , give . There are three things that are never satisfied , yea, four things say not, It is enough:  16 The grave; and the barren womb; the earth that is not filled with water; and the fire that saith not, It is enough.  

    17 The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out , and the young eagles shall eat it.  18 There be three things which are too wonderful for me, yea, four which I know not:  19 The way of an eagle in the air; the way of a serpent upon a rock; the way of a ship in the midst of the sea; and the way of a man with a maid.  20 Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth , and wipeth her mouth, and saith , I have done no wickedness.  21 For three things the earth is disquieted , and for four which it cannot bear :  22 For a servant when he reigneth ; and a fool when he is filled with meat;  23 For an odious woman when she is married ; and an handmaid that is heir to her mistress.  24 There be four things which are little upon the earth, but they are exceeding wise:  25 The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer;  26 The conies are but a feeble folk, yet make they their houses in the rocks;  27 The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands ;  28 The spider taketh hold with her hands, and is in kings' palaces.  29 There be three things which go well , yea, four are comely in going :  30 A lion which is strongest among beasts, and turneth not away for any;  31 A greyhound  ; an he goat also; and a king, against whom there is no rising up.  32 If thou hast done foolishly in lifting up thyself, or if thou hast thought evil , lay thine hand upon thy mouth.  33 Surely the churning of milk bringeth forth butter, and the wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood: so the forcing of wrath bringeth forth strife.

    What, my son? and what, the son of my womb? and what, the son of my vows?  3 Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.  4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for  princes strong drink:  5 Lest they drink , and forget the law , and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted .  6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish , and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.  7 Let him drink , and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.  8 Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.  9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.  10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.  11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.  12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.  13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.  14 She is like the merchants ' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.  15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.  

    16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.  17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.  18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.  19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.  20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.  21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.  22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.  23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.  24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.  25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.  26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.  27 She looketh well to the ways  of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.  28 Her children arise up , and call her blessed ; her husband also, and he praiseth her.  29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.  30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised .  31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.














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    The United States of the Solar System, 12133 BC??
    The Direct-Democracy Singularity??
    What Do You Want??


    Iron Man
    Black Sabbath

    Has he lost his mind?
    Can he see or is he blind?
    Can he walk at all,
    Or if he moves will he fall?
    Is he alive or dead?
    Has he thoughts within his head?
    We'll just pass him there
    Why should we even care?
    He was turned to steel
    In the great magnetic field
    When he travelled time
    For the future of mankind
    Now the time is here
    For Iron Man to spread fear
    Vengeance from the grave
    Kills the people he once saved
    Nobody wants him
    He just stares at the world
    Planning his vengeance
    That he will soon unfurl
    Nobody wants him
    They just turn their heads
    Nobody helps him
    Now he has his revenge
    Heavy boots of lead
    Fills his victims full of dread
    Running as fast as they can
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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri May 18, 2018 8:45 pm

    I'm playing with burning-magnesium BUT consider Richard Hillary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hillary and Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy_Jr. What Would Blue Roller Say?? That Richard Hillary was Enki?? What Would Freddie Mercury Say?? Didn't Richard Hillary write a book titled 'The Last Enemy'?? The words of that title are found in 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 (regarding Jesus delivering the Kingdom to God the Father). I could elaborate, but I usually just drop hints here and there, without properly researching the hints myself. I often do NOT wish to figure things out. This is sort of a 'back-channel' between me and who-knows-who?! The bottom-line in this stuff is 'How Do We Know Anything For Certain??' The Bible Says This. The History Books Say That. Who Lies?? Who Tells the Truth?? Who Wins?? Who Loses?? Try thinking in terms of the Corrupt and Violent Implementation of Idealistic Plans (Past, Present, and Future). The Ends Justify the Means?? The Means Determine the Ends?? For What Purpose?? To What End?? What Would the Nasty Little-Horn Say?? WTF??
    orthodoxymoron wrote:

    "Space Cops!!"

    Just as the Info-War is heating-up and going mainstream, I'm trying to not look at it, or listen to it. I just watched a video, claiming that Jackie shot President Kennedy!! I had thought about that previously (honest) but I had been somewhat convinced by the Bill Cooper claim that the Limo-Driver shot the President. If I remember correctly, Bill claimed that an exploding-bullet with shellfish-toxin was used (which might explain the appearance of smoke near JFK's head). If Jackie did it, that might explain the appearance of smoke, as well. Who Knows?? One commenter on the video claimed that the shooting was staged (and that JFK didn't die)!! What doesn't make sense to me, is why the shooting occurred in such a public and precarious context!! Without being an expert, it seems to me that a stationary-target in a non-public setting would be more of a 'sure-thing' with a minimum of witnesses. Couldn't one of those prostitutes who serviced the President have been used for such a dastardly-deed?? Seymour Hersh, in 'The Dark Side of Camelot' took the position that President Kennedy was extremely-vulnerable during his prostitute-appointments. Is the truth important?? Is the system so rigged, that the truth doesn't matter?? Are the High-Profile Guilty Defended and Protected At the Highest-Levels?? Has the Info-War Leveled the Playing-Field?? As I've written so many times, 'RA' asked me if I knew who ordered the JFK Hit?? I stated a name, and 'RA' just stared at me, without saying a word. It was VERY Creepy!!

    Meanwhile, Back to the Bible, consider the following Minimal-List:

    1. Genesis.

    2. Deuteronomy.

    3. Psalms.

    4. Proverbs.

    5. Ecclesiastes.

    6. Isaiah.

    7. Ezekiel.

    8. Daniel.

    9. Romans.

    10. 1 Corinthians.

    11. 2 Corinthians.

    12. Galatians.

    13. Hebrews.

    14. James.

    15. Revelation.

    Martin Luther thought that Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation should NOT have been included in the Bible!! Even if the Bible is BS, who wrote the BS, and why?? What if 10% of the Bible is the Gospel-Truth?? I've turned Politics and Religion into Science-Fiction and Conspiracy-Theories (for better or worse, I know not). Is Upward-Mobility more important than Truth-Seeking?? I thought I was helping by seeking the truth in all things, but I'm having second and third thoughts. Should one simply study the world for investment and business opportunities (without regard for helping or hurting)?? Does attempting to make things better really make things better?? Should one just Watch and Profit?? Do you see what I mean?? No Illegal-Activities. No Good-Samaritan Heroics. Just Taking-Advantage of Circumstances to Maximize the Bottom-Line. Is this morally-acceptable in a world which doesn't wish to be told the truth (or told what to do)?? What Would George Soros Say?? Should I read the Bible every day?? Should I read the Wall Street Journal every day?? What if one simply read the A-Section of the WSJ (straight-through) every day, while listening to Bach and Buxtehude (as an Uppity-Religion)?? Must I Explain?? I'm Rambling. Sorry About That.





    That last video is fascinating, even though the evidence is rather thin. What if the Kennedy-Dynasty was (and is??) the Original Project Camelot??!! What if Bill and Kerry are John and Jackie??!! Sorry, I couldn't resist. What about The Mists of Avalon?? If that last video is at least partially true, what would the implications and ramifications be regarding The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133?? What Would Miles Mathis Say?? http://mileswmathis.com/barindex2.pdf This pdf Blew Me Away!! A certain individual who I've encountered over the past few years, reminds me of a young Jackie!! Once, Carol passively commented that people would be shocked if they knew who Mercuriel really was!! As usual, I just mention this and that, and hint at this and that, without really going anywhere with anything (except regarding wild-speculation about who I might be on a soul-basis)!! One More Thing. 'RA' told me "The Bush's sold-out very-quickly!!" 'RA' also told me "I like Bill Clinton!!" Finally, 'RA' told me "I'm Very Close to God!!" Honest. I keep thinking about the 'Garden of Eden' as a continuation of the 'War in Heaven' which might've started ten to fifteen thousand years ago (at least regarding this particular solar system). 13,500 years-ago keeps coming up. Try thinking in terms of a War in Heaven Artificial-Intelligence Direct-Democracy Singularity!! What Would David Bowman Say?? What Would Seymour Cray Say?? What Would Ray Kurzweil Say?? http://kurzweilai.net/pdf/RayKurzweilReader.pdf

    "Orthodoxymoron On The Mists of Avalon!!"
    What is the Law of God in the Torah?? Every Word of the Torah?? The Ten Commandments?? Deuteronomy?? What Was the Law of God Pre-Eden?? What Was the Law of God Post-Eden?? What Was the Law of God Pre-Sinai?? What Was the Law of God Post-Sinai?? What Was the Law of God Pre-Golgotha?? What Was the Law of God Post-Golgotha?? Does the Law of God Apply Only to Jews?? Which Laws Apply to Which Planets, Races, Religions, Nations, and Centuries?? Dr. Richard Carrier claims that No God Exists Because There Is No Clear, Concise, and Rational Standard and Story (or something to that effect). This could apply to 'No God' OR 'Deposed God' OR 'Gods in Conflict' OR ???? I have rather irreverently entertained the possibility of a 'Stargate SG-1' theology in this particular solar system (and possibly beyond). If this hypothesis is even somewhat true, the implications and ramifications are MOST Disturbing. Almighty-God or No-God Theories of Divinity Are MUCH Neater and Cleaner. You might have to spend decades of quality-time to fully grasp what I'm hinting-at. Once again, I'm becoming more and more like Professor Augusto Monti in the 1978 miniseries 'The Word'. What if I told you that I've spoken with individuals who remind me of various Kennedy's??!! I Will NOT Talk About THAT!! Where Would a King Live?? Where Would a President Live?? What Would the Lady From Kennebunkport Say?? What Would Robert Kennedy Do?? What if Joseph is an Engineer?? What if John is a Teacher?? Enough Said!! Actually, take another look at that 1980's movie 'The Changeling'!! This stuff sends chills up and down my spine!! I think I really need to limit my research to the SDA Bible Commentary and Baroque Music!! I Must 'Go For Baroque'!! I Must Go Incognito!! One More Thing. I recently encountered a 'Padme' look-alike!! I'm Sirius!! Sirius Was a Dog!! Pavlov Was a Dog!! Anubis Was a Dog!! I Love Dogs!! I've Always Loved Dogs, But I Am NOT Sirius, Pavlov, Anubis, Or a Dog!! I'm Just a Completely Ignorant Fool With a Messiah Complex!! And They're Coming to Take Me Away!! Hey!! Hey!!




    That first video (below) is chilling. First, that missile-scare in January, and now this. What's next?? Sherry Shriner kept saying to get away from the coastlines, and numerous sources keep predicting Tsunamis of Biblical-Proportions. It seems as if natural-disasters can be deliberately-precipitated, such that they appear to be completely-natural events. Consider Fukushima. Three days prior to Fukushima 'RA' told me "I'm sorry we couldn't work together. Too much water has gone under the bridge." What if there are pre-planted (and centrally-controlled) nukes throughout the world (in cities, fault-lines, volcanoes, etc.)?? I suspect that things can be made better than they really are, and worse than they really are. Rigged-Markets?? Rigged-Weather?? Rigged-Elections?? Rigged-Earthquakes?? Rigged-Tsunamis?? Many people (including me) see something deeply sinister and powerful in both 9/11 and Fukushima, and many people (including me) warn that events are on the horizon which might literally be the end of all of us (by accident and/or design). I continue to indulge in Comparative-Eschatology, wherein one considers 'The End' with 1. An Almighty God of the Universe. 2. A Local Solar System God, who is Mighty But Not Almighty. 3. No God. Just a Bunch of Greedy and Stupid Humans Getting in Each-Others Way. My bias is that 1 Exists But Doesn't Seem to be Active in This Solar System At This Time, and That a Combination of 2 and 3 Is What We're Dealing With Presently. I suspect that our future is going to be worse than a Science-Fiction Horror-Movie. I'd like to write about this sort of thing, but it frightens me too much, so I'll probably contemplate building a small underground shelter in the mountains, even though I know that wouldn't help if all-hell broke-loose. It would merely provide a fleeting illusion of security as I face what I expect to be VERY Unhappy Golden-Years. Standard-Theology and No-Theology are Cake-Walks Compared to What I Suspect the Real-Theology Is. I Think the Jesuits Know What I'm Talking About, But They Don't Talk About It.







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    I've suggested numerous possibilities, but I keep getting the sinking-feeling that I'm wrong, and that I don't know a damn thing!! As you know, I try to mix things up in my threads. Chaos Out of Chaos!! I have a pretty consistent theme. I'm simply trying to make all of us think. This whole thing is a mental and spiritual exercise. I call it "Contextual-Superimposition". Try reading Patriarchs and Prophets, Prophets and Kings, and Desire of Ages (by Ellen White) straight-through (over and over) regardless of whether you believe it or not!! Is that hypocritical?? Probably, but it is invigorating!! Try reading Volumes 4 and 6 (Isaiah to Malachi, and Acts to Ephesians) of the SDA Bible Commentary side by side (over and over) regardless of whether you believe what you're reading or not!! Is that hypocritical?? Probably, but it is pragmatic!! Think of ALL the words in All of the Above being written by the SAME Author!! This study does not necessarily generate or support ANY Religion or Church (if one is strictly honest)!! Biblical-Research is a Can of Worms (to say the least)!!

    Sherry Shriner speaks rabidly against Paul, yet she seems to inflict more actual wounds against the Gospels!! She seems to lean heavily upon the Torah and the Book of Revelation!! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2014/07/08/07-07-14-monday-night-with-sherry-shriner  What Would David Koresh Say?? What Would the God and/or Goddess of This World Say?? What if Paul had written an Epistle based entirely upon the Red-Letter Teachings of Jesus??!! What if Paul had written an Epistle based entirely upon the Major Old-Testament Prophets?? What if Flavius Josephus = Apostle Paul?? Think of the Possibilities!! Experimental-Religion!! Contextual-Superimposition!! Over the next couple of decades, I suspect that the world will learn what's really been going on (past and present), but the system might not significantly change. I'm still intrigued with the possibility of a United States of the Solar System (possibly combined with a Holy-Roman Solar System) commencing in or around A.D. 2133. I'd still love to know what pre-existed the Creation of Humanity (Governmentally, Legally, Physically, and Liturgically). We need to know SO Much More to properly understand our predicament and options.  

    I'm re-watching the movie The Aviator, about Howard Hughes. A close-relative of mine knew Noah Dietrich (the Business-Manager for Howard Hughes). Catherine Austin Fitts reminds me of Noah Dietrich (regarding dealing with seemingly impossible financial problems). Is the Bottom-Line the Bottom-Line in Politics and Religion?? A few months ago, I think I met Gerald Celente (but not formally). We talked about politics for a minute or two, and that was that. I didn't realize it was him until he was gone. I used to watch U-2's flying all the time (as a child)!! I saw an SR-71 up-close (flying, and on the ground) at Norton Air Force Base!! I've since learned that there were probably very-real UFO's quite-close to where I stood!! I've since learned that there were a lot of Satanists in that neck of the woods!! What if I've spoken extensively with Satan?? Does Satan still have an office at Goldman Sachs?? What if Earth-Humanity requires a Devil rather than a God?? A 'Congressman Collins' look-alike told me "You Can't Connect Anything Back to Me". Honest. One Last Time, I Know That I Don't Know. I Am Deeply Devastated and Humbled. I Often Wish I Had Never Attempted to Conceptually Solve the Solar System's Problems. I Often Wish I Had Never Been Born. I Hate My Life. Honest.

    I voted for Trump, but I'm neutral toward nearly all politicians, because I suspect they're controlled, and the controllers want puppets who can be controlled. I further suspect that this is a worldwide phenomenon involving politics, religion, and business. What worries me is that things might need to be this way. The reprehensible might be unavoidable. I suspect that at the very-top, there is an elite-club going way back to Ancient Babylon and Egypt (or earlier). I suspect that the top-management is extremely-sophisticated, but not necessarily in a nice-way. I tend to think in terms of the 'Corrupt Ruling the Stupid'. Didn't Sylvia Browne say the Aliens referred to Earth as 'The Insane Asylum'?! Earth-Humanity might require 'Bad Guys and Gals' to keep things the way they've been for thousands of years. Perhaps things were never supposed to be really good on Planet-Earth. I don't know. There's so much I don't know. I am truly a Completely Ignorant Fool. What Would Raven Say??

    I just spent half an hour discussing theology with a lady with a Masters of Divinity Degree from Vanderbilt University. She was really-humble and low-key, but very-smart, very-educated, and very-spiritual. I mention these sorts of things because I have very-little to talk about (despite my very-strange true-stories). I sometimes exaggerate, but I don't lie. I'm simply attempting to write Religious and Political Science-Fiction, but I often think I'll never get anything published (unless I self-publish). My tripe on this website isn't really Science-Fiction. Perhaps it constitutes a rather-new category, which is highly dependent upon Comments, Videos, and Images, combined with original editorial-content, and no financial-gain. The Ancient Egyptian Deity said I had "Done It With YouTube", but I'm not sure what they meant by that. I'm not even sure who they really were. I think I've completely screwed-up my life and eternal-life. I had my open-heart surgery, but it sounds like I'll be out of commission for two or three months, and I have other serious health-problems, so this might be it for me. I frankly don't see a light at the end of the tunnel regarding my physical, mental, financial, and spiritual health!! I think I'm irreversibly screwed!! I might really be finished.

    Now I'm watching the Donald Trump videos. Notice that the Trump Tower floor-numbering is supposed to skip 10 floors, so the 17th floor is supposedly called the '27th floor'. Think about the 1978 movie Oh, God regarding the '27th floor' in a building on 1600 North Hope Street!! Donald Trump's office is on the 27th floor!! What if President Trump is closer to the God and/or Goddess of This World than anyone can imagine?? What if a fake 'swamp-draining' and 'housecleaning' will precede a very-messy 'real-disclosure'?? I've encountered very-frightening predictions from individuals of interest, and I'm NOT kidding!! I get the feeling that the real-issues involve the real-truth (going way, way, way back) rather than involving who gets to run the New World Order. What if the Nazis, Masons, Jesuits, Intelligence-Agencies, International-Bankers, Military-Industrial Complex, and a Supercomputer-Network run the Solar System?? Could this be the Secret-Government and the Secret Space Program?? What if it has to be this way?? Notice the letters shown (and spaces) on David Mann's briefcase, in the 1971 movie 'Duel' (at 1:24:43) just before the truck goes over the cliff!! I need to shut-up!! I really do!! They have ways to make me STOP!! Many Ways!!

















    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint The Septuagint (from the Latin septuaginta, "seventy") is a translation of the Hebrew Bible and some related texts into Koine Greek. As the primary Greek translation of the Old Testament, it is also called the Greek Old Testament. This translation is quoted a number of times in the New Testament,[1][2] particularly in Pauline epistles,[3] and also by the Apostolic Fathers and later Greek Church Fathers. The title (Greek: ? µet?f?as?? t?? ?ßd?µ????ta, lit. "The Translation of the Seventy") and its Roman numeral LXX refer to the legendary seventy Jewish scholars who solely translated the Five Books of Moses into Koine Greek as early as the 3rd century BCE.[4][5]

    Separated from the Hebrew canon of the Jewish Bible in Rabbinic Judaism, translations of the Torah into Koine Greek by early Jewish Rabbis have survived as rare fragments only. The traditional story is that Ptolemy II sponsored the translation of the Torah (Pentateuch, Five Books of Moses). Subsequently, the Greek translation was in circulation among the Alexandrian Jews who were fluent in Koine Greek but not in Hebrew,[6] the former being the lingua franca of Alexandria, Egypt and the Eastern Mediterranean at the time.[7] The Septuagint should not be confused with the seven or more other Greek versions of the Old Testament,[4] most of which did not survive except as fragments (some parts of these being known from Origen's Hexapla, a comparison of six translations in adjacent columns, now almost wholly lost). Of these, the most important are those by Aquila, Symmachus, and Theodotion.

    The Septuagint derives its name from the Latin versio septuaginta interpretum, "translation of the seventy interpreters", Greek: ? µet?f?as?? t?? ?ßd?µ????ta, he metáphrasis ton hebdom?konta, "translation of the seventy".[8] However, it was not until the time of Augustine of Hippo (354–430 CE) that the Greek translation of the Jewish scriptures came to be called by the Latin term Septuaginta.[9] The Roman numeral LXX (seventy) is commonly used as an abbreviation.

    Beginning of the Letter of Aristeas to Philocrates. Biblioteca Apostolica Vaticana, 11th century. Seventy-two Jewish scholars were asked by the Greek King of Egypt Ptolemy II Philadelphus to translate the Torah from Biblical Hebrew into Greek, for inclusion in the Library of Alexandria.[11] This narrative is found in the pseudepigraphic Letter of Aristeas to his brother Philocrates,[12] and is repeated by Philo of Alexandria, Josephus[13][14] and by various later sources, including St. Augustine.[15] The story is also found in the Tractate Megillah of the Babylonian Talmud: King Ptolemy once gathered 72 Elders. He placed them in 72 chambers, each of them in a separate one, without revealing to them why they were summoned. He entered each one's room and said: "Write for me the Torah of Moshe, your teacher". God put it in the heart of each one to translate identically as all the others did.[5] Philo of Alexandria, who relied extensively on the Septuagint,[16] says that the number of scholars was chosen by selecting six scholars from each of the twelve tribes of Israel.

    The date of the 3rd century BCE is supported (for the Torah translation) by a number of factors, including the Greek being representative of early Koine, citations beginning as early as the 2nd century BCE, and early manuscripts datable to the 2nd century.[17][18] After the Torah, other books were translated over the next two to three centuries. It is not altogether clear which was translated when, or where; some may even have been translated twice, into different versions, and then revised.[19] The quality and style of the different translators also varied considerably from book to book, from the literal to paraphrasing to interpretative. The translation process of the Septuagint itself and from the Septuagint into other versions can be broken down into several distinct stages, during which the social milieu of the translators shifted from Hellenistic Judaism to Early Christianity. The translation of the Septuagint itself began in the 3rd century BCE and was completed by 132 BCE,[20][21][22] initially in Alexandria, but in time elsewhere as well.[8] The Septuagint is the basis for the Old Latin, Slavonic, Syriac, Old Armenian, Old Georgian and Coptic versions of the Christian Old Testament.[23]

    Some sections of the Septuagint may show Semiticisms, or idioms and phrases based on Semitic languages like Hebrew and Aramaic.[24] Other[clarification needed] books, such as Daniel and Proverbs, show Greek influence more strongly.[11] Jewish Koine Greek exists primarily as a category of literature, or cultural category, but apart from some distinctive religious vocabulary is not so distinct from other varieties of Koine Greek as to be counted a separate dialect. The Septuagint may also elucidate pronunciation of pre-Masoretic Hebrew: many proper nouns are spelled out with Greek vowels in the LXX, while contemporary Hebrew texts lacked vowel pointing.[25] However, it is extremely unlikely that all ancient Hebrew sounds had precise Greek equivalents.[26]

    As the work of translation progressed, the canon of the Greek Bible expanded. The Torah (Pentateuch in Greek) always maintained its pre-eminence as the basis of the canon, but the collection of prophetic writings, based on the Jewish Nevi'im, had various hagiographical works[which?] incorporated into it. In addition, some newer books were included in the Septuagint: those called anagignoskomena in Greek, known in English as Deuterocanonical ("second canon") because they are not included in the Jewish canon. Among these are the Maccabees and the Wisdom of Ben Sira. Also, the Septuagint version of some Biblical books, like Daniel and Esther, are longer than those in the Masoretic Text.[27] It is not known when the Ketuvim ("writings"), the final part of the three part Canon was established, although some sort of selective processes must have been employed because the Septuagint did not include other well-known Jewish documents such as Enoch or Jubilees or other writings that are not part of the Jewish canon, and which are now classified as Pseudepigrapha. However, the Psalms of Solomon, 3 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, the Epistle of Jeremiah the Book of Odes, the Prayer of Manasseh and Psalm 151 are included in some copies of the Septuagint,[28] some of which are accepted as canonical by Eastern Orthodox and some other churches.

    Since Late Antiquity, once attributed to a Council of Jamnia, mainstream rabbinic Judaism rejected the Septuagint as valid Jewish scriptural texts. Several reasons have been given for this. First, some mistranslations were ascertained.[29] Second, the Hebrew source texts, in some cases (particularly the Book of Daniel), used for the Septuagint differed from the Masoretic tradition of Hebrew texts, which was affirmed as canonical by the Jewish rabbis. Third, the rabbis wanted to distinguish their tradition from the newly emerging tradition of Christianity.[22][30] Finally, the rabbis claimed for the Hebrew language a divine authority, in contrast to Aramaic or Greek—even though these languages were the lingua franca of Jews during this period.[31] As a result of this teaching, translations of the Torah into Koine Greek by early Jewish Rabbis have survived as rare fragments only.

    In time the LXX became synonymous with the "Greek Old Testament", i.e. a Christian canon of writings which incorporated all the books of the Hebrew canon, along with additional texts. The Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches include most of the books that are in the Septuagint in their canons; however, Protestant churches usually do not. After the Protestant Reformation, many Protestant Bibles began to follow the Jewish canon and exclude the additional texts, which came to be called "Apocrypha" (originally meaning "hidden" but became synonymous with "of questionable authenticity"), with some arguing against them being classed as Scripture.[32][33][34][full citation needed] The Apocrypha are included under a separate heading in the King James Version of the Bible, the basis for the Revised Standard Version.[35]

    All the books of western canons of the Old Testament are found in the Septuagint, although the order does not always coincide with the Western ordering of the books. The Septuagint order for the Old Testament is evident in the earliest Christian Bibles (4th century).[11] Some books that are set apart in the Masoretic text are grouped together. For example, the Books of Samuel and the Books of Kings are in the LXX one book in four parts called ?as??e??? ("Of Reigns"). In LXX, the Books of Chronicles supplement Reigns and it is called Paraleipoménon (?a?a?e?p?µ????—things left out). The Septuagint organizes the minor prophets as twelve parts of one Book of Twelve.[11]

    Some scriptures of ancient origin are found in the Septuagint but are not present in the Hebrew. These additional books are Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of Jesus son of Sirach, Baruch, Letter of Jeremiah (which later became chapter 6 of Baruch in the Vulgate), additions to Daniel (The Prayer of Azarias, the Song of the Three Children, Susanna and Bel and the Dragon), additions to Esther, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, 3 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, 1 Esdras, Odes, including the Prayer of Manasseh, the Psalms of Solomon, and Psalm 151. The canonical acceptance of these books varies among different Christian traditions, and there are canonical books not derived from the Septuagint. For more information regarding these books, see the articles Biblical apocrypha, Biblical canon, Books of the Bible, and Deuterocanonical books.

    In the most ancient copies of the Bible which contain the Septuagint version of the Old Testament, the Book of Daniel is not the original Septuagint version, but instead is a copy of Theodotion's translation from the Hebrew, which more closely resembles the Masoretic text. The Septuagint version was discarded in favor of Theodotion's version in the 2nd to 3rd centuries CE. In Greek-speaking areas, this happened near the end of the 2nd century, and in Latin-speaking areas (at least in North Africa), it occurred in the middle of the 3rd century. History does not record the reason for this, and St. Jerome reports, in the preface to the Vulgate version of Daniel, This thing 'just' happened.[36] Several Old Greek texts of the Book of Daniel have been rediscovered recently and work is ongoing in reconstructing the original form of the book.[11] The canonical Ezra-Nehemiah is known in the Septuagint as "Esdras B", and 1 Esdras is "Esdras A". 1 Esdras is a very similar text to the books of Ezra-Nehemiah, and the two are widely thought by scholars to be derived from the same original text. It has been proposed, and is thought highly likely by scholars, that "Esdras B"—the canonical Ezra-Nehemiah—is Theodotion's version of this material, and "Esdras A" is the version which was previously in the Septuagint on its own.[36]

    Pre-Christian Jews, Philo and Josephus considered the Septuagint on equal standing with the Hebrew text.[11][37] Manuscripts of the Septuagint have been found among the Qumran Scrolls in the Dead Sea, and were thought to have been in use among Jews at the time. Starting approximately in the 2nd century CE, several factors led most Jews to abandon use of the LXX. The earliest gentile Christians of necessity used the LXX, as it was at the time the only Greek version of the Bible, and most, if not all, of these early non-Jewish Christians could not read Hebrew. The association of the LXX with a rival religion may have rendered it suspect in the eyes of the newer generation of Jews and Jewish scholars.[23] Instead, Jews used Hebrew/Aramaic Targum manuscripts later compiled by the Masoretes; and authoritative Aramaic translations, such as those of Onkelos and Rabbi Yonathan ben Uziel.[38] What was perhaps most significant for the LXX, as distinct from other Greek versions, was that the LXX began to lose Jewish sanction after[when?] differences between it and contemporary Hebrew scriptures were discovered (see above[clarification needed]). Even Greek-speaking Jews tended less to the LXX, preferring other Jewish versions in Greek, such as that of the 2nd-century Aquila translation, which seemed to be more concordant with contemporary Hebrew texts.[23] While Jews have not used the LXX in worship or religious study since the 2nd century CE, recent scholarship has brought renewed interest in it in the field of Judaic Studies.

    The Early Christian Church used the Greek texts[39] since Greek was a lingua franca of the Roman Empire at the time, and the language of the Greco-Roman Church (Aramaic was the language of Syriac Christianity, which used the Targumim). The relationship between the apostolic use of the Old Testament, for example, the Septuagint and the now lost Hebrew texts (though to some degree and in some form carried on in Masoretic tradition) is complicated. The Septuagint seems to have been a major source for the Apostles, but it is not the only one. St. Jerome offered, for example, Matt 2:15 and 2:23, John 19:37, John 7:38, 1 Cor. 2:9.[40] as examples not found in the Septuagint, but in Hebrew texts. (Matt 2:23 is not present in current Masoretic tradition either, though according to St. Jerome it was in Hosea 11:1.) The New Testament writers, when citing the Jewish scriptures, or when quoting Jesus doing so, freely used the Greek translation, implying that Jesus, his Apostles and their followers considered it reliable.[3][24][41]

    In the Early Christian Church, the presumption that the Septuagint was translated by Jews before the era of Christ, and that the Septuagint at certain places gives itself more to a christological interpretation than 2nd-century Hebrew texts was taken as evidence that "Jews" had changed the Hebrew text in a way that made them less christological. For example, Irenaeus concerning Isaiah 7:14: The Septuagint clearly writes of a virgin (Greek pa??????, bethulah in Hebrew) that shall conceive.,[42] while the word almah in the Hebrew text was, according to Irenaeus, at that time interpreted by Theodotion and Aquila (both proselytes of the Jewish faith) as a young woman that shall conceive. According to Irenaeus, the Ebionites used this to claim that Joseph was the (biological) father of Jesus. From Irenaeus' point of view that was pure heresy, facilitated by (late) anti-Christian alterations of the scripture in Hebrew, as evident by the older, pre-Christian, Septuagint.[43]

    When Jerome undertook the revision of the Old Latin translations of the Septuagint, he checked the Septuagint against the Hebrew texts that were then available. He broke with church tradition and translated most of the Old Testament of his Vulgate from Hebrew rather than Greek. His choice was severely criticized by Augustine, his contemporary; a flood of still less moderate criticism came from those who regarded Jerome as a forger. While on the one hand he argued for the superiority of the Hebrew texts in correcting the Septuagint on both philological and theological grounds, on the other, in the context of accusations of heresy against him, Jerome would acknowledge the Septuagint texts as well.[44] With the passage of time, acceptance of Jerome's version gradually increased until it displaced the Old Latin translations of the Septuagint.[23]

    The Eastern Orthodox Church still prefers to use the LXX as the basis for translating the Old Testament into other languages. The Eastern Orthodox also use LXX untranslated where Greek is the liturgical language, e.g. in the Orthodox Church of Constantinople, the Church of Greece and the Cypriot Orthodox Church. Critical translations of the Old Testament, while using the Masoretic Text as their basis, consult the Septuagint as well as other versions in an attempt to reconstruct the meaning of the Hebrew text whenever the latter is unclear, undeniably corrupt, or ambiguous.[23] For example, the New Jerusalem Bible Foreword says, "Only when this (the Masoretic Text) presents insuperable difficulties have emendations or other versions, such as the ... LXX, been used."[45] The Translator's Preface to the New International Version says: "The translators also consulted the more important early versions (including) the Septuagint ... Readings from these versions were occasionally followed where the MT seemed doubtful ..."[46]

    The inter-relationship between various significant ancient manuscripts of the Old Testament (some identified by their siglum). LXX here denotes the original septuagint. Modern scholarship holds that the LXX was written during the 3rd through 1st centuries BCE. But nearly all attempts at dating specific books, with the exception of the Pentateuch (early- to mid-3rd century BCE), are tentative and without consensus.[11] Later Jewish revisions and recensions of the Greek against the Hebrew are well attested, the most famous of which include the Three: Aquila (128 CE), Symmachus, and Theodotion. These three, to varying degrees, are more literal renderings of their contemporary Hebrew scriptures as compared to the Old Greek. Modern scholars consider one or more of the 'three' to be totally new Greek versions of the Hebrew Bible.[55]

    Around 235 CE, Origen, a Christian scholar in Alexandria, completed the Hexapla, a comprehensive comparison of the ancient versions and Hebrew text side-by-side in six columns, with diacritical markings (a.k.a. "editor's marks", "critical signs" or "Aristarchian signs"). Much of this work was lost, but several compilations of the fragments are available. In the first column was the contemporary Hebrew, in the second a Greek transliteration of it, then the newer Greek versions each in their own columns. Origen also kept a column for the Old Greek (the Septuagint) and next to it was a critical apparatus combining readings from all the Greek versions with diacritical marks indicating to which version each line (Gr. st????) belonged.[56] Perhaps the voluminous Hexapla was never copied in its entirety, but Origen's combined text ("the fifth column") was copied frequently, eventually without the editing marks, and the older uncombined text of the LXX was neglected. Thus this combined text became the first major Christian recension of the LXX, often called the Hexaplar recension. In the century following Origen, two other major recensions were identified by Jerome, who attributed these to Lucian and Hesychius.[11]

    The oldest manuscripts of the LXX include 2nd century BCE fragments of Leviticus and Deuteronomy (Rahlfs nos. 801, 819, and 957), and 1st century BCE fragments of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, and the Minor Prophets (Alfred Rahlfs nos. 802, 803, 805, 848, 942, and 943). Relatively complete manuscripts of the LXX postdate the Hexaplar rescension and include the Codex Vaticanus from the 4th century CE and the Codex Alexandrinus of the 5th century. These are indeed the oldest surviving nearly complete manuscripts of the Old Testament in any language; the oldest extant complete Hebrew texts date some 600 years later, from the first half of the 10th century.[23][57] The 4th century Codex Sinaiticus also partially survives, still containing many texts of the Old Testament.[58] While there are differences between these three codices, scholarly consensus today holds that one LXX—that is, the original pre-Christian translation—underlies all three. The various Jewish and later Christian revisions and recensions are largely responsible for the divergence of the codices.[11]

    The sources of the many differences between the Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate and the Masoretic text have long been discussed by scholars. Following the Renaissance, a common opinion among some humanists was that the LXX translators bungled the translation from the Hebrew and that the LXX became more corrupt with time. The most widely accepted view today is that the original Septuagint provided a reasonably accurate record of an early Hebrew textual variant that differed from the ancestor of the Masoretic text as well as those of the Latin Vulgate, where both of the latter seem to have a more similar textual heritage. This view is supported by comparisons with Biblical texts found at the Essene settlement at Qumran (the Dead Sea Scrolls). These issues notwithstanding, the text of the LXX is generally close to that of the Masoretes and Vulgate. For example, Genesis 4:1–6 is identical in both the LXX, Vulgate and the Masoretic Text. Likewise, Genesis 4:8 to the end of the chapter is the same. There is only one noticeable difference in that chapter, at 4:7, to wit:

    Genesis 4:7, LXX and English Translation (NETS)
    Genesis 4:7, Masoretic and English Translation from MT (Judaica Press)
    Genesis 4:7, Latin Vulgate and English Translation (Douay-Rheims)
    ??? ??? ????? p??se??????, ????? d? µ? d?????, ?µa?te?; ?s??as??· p??? s? ? ?p?st??f? a?t??, ?a? s? ???e?? a?t??.

    If you offer correctly but do not divide correctly, have you not sinned? Be still; his recourse is to you, and you will rule over him. ?????? ??? ???????? ?????? ????? ??? ??????? ???????? ??????? ????? ????????? ???????????? ???????? ????????? ????:? Is it not so that if you improve, it will be forgiven you? If you do not improve, however, at the entrance, sin is lying, and to you is its longing, but you can rule over it. nonne si bene egeris recipes sin autem male statim in foribus peccatum aderit sed sub te erit appetitus eius et tu dominaberis illius

    If thou do well, shalt thou not receive? but if ill, shall not sin forthwith be present at the door? but the lust thereof shall be under thee, and thou shalt have dominion over it. This instance illustrates the complexity of assessing differences between the LXX and the Masoretic Text as well as the Vulgate. Despite the striking divergence of meaning here between the Septuagint and later texts, nearly identical consonantal Hebrew source texts can be reconstructed. The readily apparent semantic differences result from alternative strategies for interpreting the difficult verse and relate to differences in vowelization and punctuation of the consonantal text. The differences between the LXX and the MT thus fall into four categories.[59]

    Different Hebrew sources for the MT and the LXX. Evidence of this can be found throughout the Old Testament. Most obvious are major differences in Jeremiah and Job, where the LXX is much shorter and chapters appear in different order than in the MT, and Esther where almost one third of the verses in the LXX text have no parallel in the MT. A more subtle example may be found in Isaiah 36.11; the meaning ultimately remains the same, but the choice of words evidences a different text. The MT reads "...al tedaber yehudit be-'ozne ha`am al ha-homa" [speak not the Judean language in the ears of (or—which can be heard by) the people on the wall].

    The same verse in the LXX reads according to the translation of Brenton "and speak not to us in the Jewish tongue: and wherefore speakest thou in the ears of the men on the wall." The MT reads "people" where the LXX reads "men". This difference is very minor and does not affect the meaning of the verse. Scholars at one time had used discrepancies such as this to claim that the LXX was a poor translation of the Hebrew original. With the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, variant Hebrew texts of the Bible were found. In fact this verse is found in Qumran (1QIsaa) where the Hebrew word "haanashim" (the men) is found in place of "haam" (the people). This discovery, and others like it, showed that even seemingly minor differences of translation could be the result of variant Hebrew source texts.

    Differences in interpretation stemming from the same Hebrew text. A good example is Genesis 4.7, shown above. Differences as a result of idiomatic translation issues (i.e. a Hebrew idiom may not easily translate into Greek, thus some difference is intentionally or unintentionally imparted). For example, in Psalm 47:10 the MT reads "The shields of the earth belong to God". The LXX reads "To God are the mighty ones of the earth." The metaphor "shields" would not have made much sense to a Greek speaker; thus the words "mighty ones" are substituted in order to retain the original meaning.

    The Biblical manuscripts found in Qumran, commonly known as the Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS), have prompted comparisons of the various texts associated with the Hebrew Bible, including the Septuagint.[60] Peter Flint,[61] cites Emanuel Tov, the chief editor of the scrolls,[62] who identifies five broad variation categories of DSS texts:[63] Proto-Masoretic: This consists of a stable text and numerous and distinctive agreements with the Masoretic Text. About 60% of the Biblical scrolls fall into this category (e.g. 1QIsa-b) Pre-Septuagint: These are the manuscripts which have distinctive affinities with the Greek Bible. These number only about 5% of the Biblical scrolls, for example, 4QDeut-q, 4QSam-a, and 4QJer-b, 4QJer-d. In addition to these manuscripts, several others share distinctive individual readings with the Septuagint, although they do not fall in this category. The Qumran "Living Bible": These are the manuscripts which, according to Tov, were copied in accordance with the "Qumran practice" (i.e. with distinctive long orthography and morphology, frequent errors and corrections, and a free approach to the text.

    Such scrolls comprise about 20% of the Biblical corpus, including the Great Isaiah Scroll (1QIsa-a): Pre-Samaritan: These are DSS manuscripts which reflect the textual form found in the Samaritan Pentateuch, although the Samaritan Bible itself is later and contains information not found in these earlier scrolls, (e.g. God's holy mountain at Shechem rather than Jerusalem). The Qumran witnesses—which are characterized by orthographic corrections and harmonizations with parallel texts elsewhere in the Pentateuch—comprise about 5% of the Biblical scrolls. (e.g. 4QpaleoExod-m) Non-Aligned: This is a category which shows no consistent alignment with any of the other four text-types. These number approximately 10% of the Biblical scrolls, and include 4QDeut-b, 4QDeut-c, 4QDeut-h, 4QIsa-c, and 4QDan-a.[63][64][65] The textual sources present a variety of readings. For example, Bastiaan Van Elderen [62] compares three variations of Deuteronomy 32:43, the Song of Moses.

    The Dead Sea Scrolls, with their 5% connection to the Septuagint, provide significant information for scholars studying the Greek text of the Hebrew Bible. The texts of all printed editions are derived from the three recensions mentioned above, that of Origen, Lucian, or Hesychius. The editio princeps is the Complutensian Polyglot. It was based on manuscripts that are now lost, but seems to transmit quite early readings.[66] The Aldine edition (begun by Aldus Manutius) appeared at Venice in 1518. The text is closer to Codex Vaticanus than the Complutensian. The editor says he collated ancient manuscripts but does not specify them. It has been reprinted several times. The Roman or Sixtine Septuagint, which uses Codex Vaticanus as the base texts and various other later manuscripts for the lacunae in the uncial manuscript. It was published in 1587 under the direction of Cardinal Antonio Carafa, with the help of a group of Roman scholars (Cardinal Gugliemo Sirleto, Antonio Agelli and Petrus Morinus), by the authority of Sixtus V, to assist the revisers who were preparing the Latin Vulgate edition ordered by the Council of Trent.

    It has become the textus receptus of the Greek Old Testament and has had many new editions, such as that of Robert Holmes and James Parsons (Oxford, 1798–1827), the seven editions of Constantin von Tischendorf, which appeared at Leipzig between 1850 and 1887, the last two, published after the death of the author and revised by Nestle, the four editions of Henry Barclay Swete (Cambridge, 1887–95, 1901, 1909), etc. A detailed description of this edition has been made by H. B. Swete in his An Introduction to the Old Testament in Greek (1900), pp. 174–182. Grabe's edition was published at Oxford, from 1707 to 1720, and reproduced, but imperfectly, the Codex Alexandrinus of London. For partial editions, see Fulcran Vigouroux, Dictionnaire de la Bible, 1643 sqq.

    Alfred Rahlfs, a longtime Septuagint researcher at Göttingen, began a manual edition of the Septuagint in 1917 or 1918. The completed Septuaginta was published in 1935. It relies mainly on Vaticanus, Sinaiticus, and Alexandrinus, and presents a critical apparatus with variants from these and several other sources.[67] The Göttingen Septuagint (Vetus Testamentum Graecum: Auctoritate Academiae Scientiarum Gottingensis editum) is a major critical version, comprising multiple volumes published from 1931 to 2009 and not yet complete (the largest missing parts are the history books Joshua through Chronicles except Ruth, and the Solomonic books Proverbs through Song of Songs). Its two critical apparatuses present variant Septuagint readings and variants from other Greek versions.[68] In 2006, a revision of Alfred Rahlfs's Septuaginta was published by the German Bible Society. This editio altera includes over a thousand changes to the text and apparatus.[69] Apostolic Bible Polyglot contains a Septuagint text derived mainly from the agreement of any two of the Complutensian Polyglot, the Sixtine, and the Aldine texts.[70]

    The Septuagint has been translated surprisingly few times into English. The first one, which excluded the Apocrypha, was Charles Thomson's in 1808, which was subsequently revised and enlarged by C.A. Muses in 1954. Many complain how C.A. Muses has corrupted the translation to match the Hebrew. The translation of Sir Lancelot C. L. Brenton, published in 1851, is a long-time standard. For most of the years since its publication it has been the only one readily available, and has continually been in print. It is based primarily upon the Codex Vaticanus and contains the Greek and English texts in parallel columns. Considering the old english of Brenton's translation, there is also a revision of the Brenton Septuagint available through Stauros Ministries, called The Complete Apostles' Bible, translated by Paul W. Esposito, Th.D, and released in 2007. [2] A New English Translation of the Septuagint and the Other Greek Translations Traditionally Included Under that Title (NETS), an academic translation based on standard critical editions of the Greek texts was published by the International Organization for Septuagint and Cognate Studies (IOSCS). It was published by Oxford University Press in October 2007. It used New Revised Standard version (which is based on the Hebrew) as the base text.

    The Apostolic Bible Polyglot, published in 2003 is another, including the Greek books of the Hebrew canon along with the Greek New Testament, all numerically coded to the AB-Strong numbering system, and set in monotonic orthography. Included in the printed edition is a concordance and index. The Orthodox Study Bible was released in early 2008 with a new translation of the Septuagint based on the Alfred Rahlfs edition of the Greek text. To this base they brought two additional major sources: first the Brenton translation of the Septuagint from 1851, and, second, Thomas Nelson Publishers granted use of the New King James Version text in the places where the translation of the LXX would match that of the Hebrew Masoretic text. This edition includes the New Testament as well, which also uses the New King James Version; and it includes, further, extensive commentary from an Eastern Orthodox perspective.[71]

    Father Nicholas King, SJ has completed a Catholic translation of the Septuagint into English. The work is available in either four separate volumes or one single volume. Father King is a Jesuit priest who lectures in New Testament Studies at Oxford University. The translation began in 2010 and was finished in 2013; it is available from Kevin Mayhew Publishers, entitled The Old Testament (volumes 1 through 4), and The Bible in hardcover and presentation editions.[3] It contains a very useful mini commentary on each book which gives a flavour of what is hoped to be the start of accessible, reasonably priced individual commentaries for the general reader. Brenton's Septuagint, Restored Names Version, (SRNV) is a two volume editing primarily based on Sir Lancelot C. L. Brenton's translation.

    The Hebrew Names restoration is based on the Westminster Leningrad Codex with the prime focus being the restoration of the Divine Name. It is rendered in Modern English yet remains faithful to Brenton's translation. Additionally it features extensive Hebrew and Greek footnotes. [4] Orthodox England on the net is a translation not in book form but online at http://orthodoxengland.org.uk/zot.htm. It used the King James Version as the base text and corrects where it differs from the Greek. The Eastern Orthodox Bible (EOB) (in progress) is an extensive revision and correction of Brenton's translation which was primarily based on Codex Vaticanus. Its language and syntax have been modernized and simplified. It also includes extensive introductory material and footnotes featuring significant inter-LXX and LXX/MT variants.

    In 2006 the International Organization for Septuagint and Cognate Studies (IOSCS) - a non-profit, learned society formed to promote international research in and study of the Septuagint and related texts [72] - declared February 8 "International Septuagint Day",[73] a day to promote the discipline on campuses and in communities. The Organization also publishes the "Journal of Septuagint and Cognate Studies" (JSCS).

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    ^ "[T]he Egyptian papyri, which are abundant for this particular period, ... have in a measure reinstated Aristeas (about 200 B.C.[E.]) in the opinion of scholars. Upon his "Letter to Philocrates" the tradition as to the origin of the Septuagint rests. It is now believed that even though he may have been mistaken in some points, his facts in general are worthy of credence (Abrahams, in "Jew. Quart. Rev." xiv. 321). According to Aristeas, the Pentateuch was translated at the time of Philadelphus, the second Ptolemy (285–247 B.C.[E.]), which translation was encouraged by the king and welcomed by the Jews of Alexandria. Grätz ("Gesch. der Juden", 3d ed., iii. 615) stands alone in assigning it to the reign of Philometor (181–146 B.C.[E.]). Whatever share the king may have had in the work, it evidently satisfied a pressing need felt by the Jewish community, among whom a knowledge of Hebrew was rapidly waning before the demands of every-day life.""Bible Translations – The Septuagint". JewishEncyclopedia.com. Retrieved 29 October 2012.
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    ^ J.A.L. Lee, A Lexical Study of the Septuagint Version of the Pentateuch (Septuagint and Cognate Studies, 14. Chico, CA: Scholars Press, 1983; Reprint SBL, 2006)
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    ^ Life after death: a history of the afterlife in the religions of the West (2004), Anchor Bible Reference Library, Alan F. Segal, p.363
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    a b "[...] die griechische Bibelübersetzung, die einem innerjüdischen Bedürfnis entsprang [...] [von den] Rabbinern zuerst gerühmt (..) Später jedoch, als manche ungenaue Übertragung des hebräischen Textes in der Septuaginta und Übersetzungsfehler die Grundlage für hellenistische Irrlehren abgaben, lehnte man die Septuaginta ab." Verband der Deutschen Juden (Hrsg.), neu hrsg. von Walter Homolka, Walter Jacob, Tovia Ben Chorin: Die Lehren des Judentums nach den Quellen; München, Knesebeck, 1999, Bd.3, S. 43ff
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    ^ Hoffman, Book Review, 2004. Archived January 12, 2012, at the Wayback Machine.
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    ^ Paul Joüon, SJ, A Grammar of Biblical Hebrew, trans. and revised by T. Muraoka, vol. I, Rome: Editrice Pontificio Instituto Biblico, 2000.
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    ^ Rick Grant Jones, Various Religious Topics, "Books of the Septuagint", (Accessed 2006.9.5).
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    ^ "The Old Testament Canon and Apocrypha". BibleResearcher. Retrieved 27 November 2015.
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    ^ "Two things, however, rendered the Septuagint unwelcome in the long run to the Jews. Its divergence from the accepted text (afterward called the Masoretic) was too evident; and it therefore could not serve as a basis for theological discussion or for homiletic interpretation. This distrust was accentuated by the fact that it had been adopted as Sacred Scripture by the new faith [Christianity] [...] In course of time it came to be the canonical Greek Bible [...] It became part of the Bible of the Christian Church.""Bible Translations – The Septuagint". JewishEncyclopedia.com. Retrieved 10 February 2012.
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    ^ Mishnah Sotah (7:2–4 and 8:1), among many others, discusses the sacredness of Hebrew, as opposed to Aramaic or Greek. This is comparable to the authority claimed for the original Arabic Koran according to Islamic teaching.
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    ^ Alexander Zvielli, Jerusalem Post, June 2009, pp. 37
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    ^ Greek-speaking Judaism (see also Hellenistic Judaism), survived, however, on a smaller scale into the medieval period. Cf. Natalio Fernández Marcos, The Septuagint in Context: Introduction to the Greek Bible, Leiden: Brill, 2000.
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    ^ "The translation, which shows at times a peculiar ignorance of Hebrew usage, was evidently made from a codex which differed widely in places from the text crystallized by the Masorah (..) Two things, however, rendered the Septuagint unwelcome in the long run to the Jews. Its divergence from the accepted text (afterward called the Masoretic) was too evident; and it therefore could not serve as a basis for theological discussion or for homiletic interpretation. This distrust was accentuated by the fact that it had been adopted as Sacred Scripture by the new faith [Christianity] (..) In course of time it came to be the canonical Greek Bible (..) It became part of the Bible of the Christian Church.""Bible Translations – The Septuagint". JewishEncyclopedia.com. Retrieved 10 February 2012.
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    ^ St. Jerome, Apology Book II.
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    ^ Paulkovich, Michael (2012), No Meek Messiah, Spillix Publishing, p. 24, ISBN 0988216116
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    ^ Irenaeus, Against Herecies Book III.
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    ^ Rebenich, S., Jerome (Routledge, 2013), p. 58. ISBN 9781134638444
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    ^ New Jerusalem Bible Readers Edition, 1990: London, citing the Standard Edition of 1985
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    ^ "Life Application Bible" (NIV), 1988: Tyndale House Publishers, using "Holy Bible" text, copyright International Bible Society 1973
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    ^ Timothy McLay, The Use of the Septuagint in New Testament Research ISBN 0-8028-6091-5.—The current standard introduction on the NT & LXX.
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    ^ The canon of the original Old Greek LXX is disputed. This table reflects the canon of the Old Testament as used currently in Orthodoxy.
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    ^ ?as??e??? (Basileion) is the genitive plural of ?as??e?a (Basileia).
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    ^ That is, Things set aside from ?sd?a? ?'.
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    ^ also called ??ße?t or ??ß?? in some sources.
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    ^ Not in Orthodox Canon, but originally included in the LXX. http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/
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    ^ Obdiou is genitive from "The vision of Obdias", which opens the book.
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    ^ Originally placed after 3 Maccabees and before Psalms, but placed in an appendix of the Orthodox Canon
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    ^ Compare Dines, who is certain only of Symmachus being a truly new version, with Würthwein, who considers only Theodotion to be a revision, and even then possibly of an earlier non-LXX version.
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    ^ Jerome, From Jerome, Letter LXXI (404 CE), NPNF1-01. The Confessions and Letters of St. Augustin, with a Sketch of his Life and Work, Phillip Schaff, Ed.
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    ^ Due to the practice of burying Torah scrolls invalidated for use by age, commonly after 300–400 years.
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    ^ Würthwein, op. cit., pp. 73 & 198.
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    ^ See, Jinbachian, Some Semantically Significant Differences Between the Masoretic Text and the Septuagint, [1].
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    ^ Laurence Shiffman, Reclaiming the Dead Sea Scrolls, p. 172
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    ^ Note that these percentages are disputed. Other scholars credit the Proto-Masoretic texts with only 40%, and posit larger contributions from Qumran-style and non-aligned texts. The Canon Debate, McDonald & Sanders editors, 2002, chapter 6: Questions of Canon through the Dead Sea Scrolls by James C. VanderKam, page 94, citing private communication with Emanuel Tov on biblical manuscripts: Qumran scribe type c.25%, proto-Masoretic Text c. 40%, pre-Samaritan texts c.5%, texts close to the Hebrew model for the Septuagint c.5% and nonaligned c.25%.
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    ^ Joseph Ziegler, "Der griechische Dodekepropheton-Text der Complutenser Polyglotte", Biblica 25:297–310, cited in Würthwein.
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    ^ "International Septuagint Day". The International Organization for Septuagint and Cognate Studies. Retrieved 2016-03-30. In 2006, the International Organization for Septuagint and Cognate Studies established February 8 as International Septuagint Day, a day to celebrate the Septuagint and encourage its study.

    Further reading

    Timothy Michael Law, When God Spoke Greek, Oxford University Press, 2013.
    Eberhard Bons and Jan Joosten, eds. Septuagint Vocabulary: Pre-History, Usage, Reception (Society of Biblical Literature; 2011) 211 pages; studies of the language used
    Kantor, Mattis, The Jewish time line encyclopedia: A yearby-year history from Creation to the present, Jason Aronson Inc., London, 1992
    Alfred Rahlfs, Verzeichnis der griechischen Handschriften des Alten Testaments, für das Septuaginta-Unternehmen, Göttingen 1914.
    Makrakis, Apostolos, Proofs of the Authenticity of the Septuagint, trans. by D. Cummings, Chicago, Ill.: Hellenic Christian Educational Society, 1947. N.B.: Published and printed with its own pagination, whether as issued separately or as included together with 2 other works of A. Makrakis in a single volume published by the same film in 1950, wherein the translator's name is identified on the common t.p. to that volume.
    W. Emery Barnes, On the Influence of Septuagint on the Peshitta, JTS 1901, pp. 186–197.
    Andreas Juckel, Septuaginta and Peshitta Jacob of Edessa quoting the Old Testament in Ms BL Add 17134 JOURNAL OF SYRIAC STUDIES
    Martin Hengel, The Septuagint As Christian Scripture, Continuum International Publishing Group, 2004.
    Rajak, Tessa, Translation and survival: the Greek Bible of the ancient Jewish Diaspora (Oxford; New York: Oxford University Press, 2009).
    Bart D. Ehrman. The New Testament: A Historical Introduction to the Early Christian Writings; 608 pages, Oxford University Press (July, 2011); ISBN 978-0-19-975753-4
    Hyam Maccoby. The Mythmaker: Paul and the Invention of Christianity; 238 pages, Barnes & Noble Books (1998); ISBN 978-0-7607-0787-6
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    Micjer wrote:I have been following a thread on another forum in which people share their stories. Here is the link to the forum and thread.

    http://www.childpastlives.org/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=15439

    I would like to post two particular stories.  Please take time to read the whole thread.  It is incredible.
    Micjer wrote: Story #1 9/11 Baby - baby_rn

    I've never written on anything like this before...actually makes me a little nervous but anyway...Ive been looking on the internet for someone talking about their child having past life memories from 9/11. My son has been talking about it for almost a year now...he's almost 4...He started out insisting that he doesn't just want to be a firefighter that he is one...he would get up in the morning and put on his fire outfit(his big reward for being potty trained) and tell me he's going to work. He would take his play axe and pretend to chop down the walls etc because there was fire behind them. that's how it started and the info just progressed...we were reading a curious george book about him in the big city and he said very matter of factly...bad men knocked those buildings over, pointing at the twin tower picture.(he has also never been exposed to 9/11 scenes...i am also a stay at home mom.

    Then he said planes broke in them and he couldn't help...he also told me there were people jumping because they wouldn't wait for him to get them...He told me he was stuck and and was trying to break thru the wall to get the people out because they were calling for them ...He has also gone on extensively about the type of trucks he was in...the color bucket on the truck and how it feels to come down from up high in the bucket...very detailed about firefighting and has stated he's not a firefighter he's fire rescue...we have no firefighters in the family but the details I could go on with forever...he also talks about his friend Mike that is also a firefighter...It has opened my eyes to a whole new reality...my husband still doesn't want to believe it but the details are far too much for a three year old to make up...it makes me feel better some one else is experiencing this too.

    ...thanks for responding to me...i'm pretty confident that what my son has been telling me is from a past life...there's no way he would know all this at his age! Also the tone of his voice is completely different and he also will laugh a lot if I ask him anything...like why are you asking me this you know i know the answers...I'm very aware not to ask him anything specific because he only tells me what he wants at that time...which is always before bed or after he wakes in the morning...tonight he told me he likes to drive thru red lights with the sirens on when he doesn't actually have to and then he laughs! His info comes in spurts though usually a whole lot at a time then a lull and then more...

    He told me that I would really enjoy the Christmas parties at his fire station...everyone always have lots of fun...he said they got a new fire truck because their old one is wrecked...he has said this several times about a new fire truck with a TV in it and maps and a boat on top...also he has tried to give me directions to his fire station...funny coming from a three year old actually...he says you take a left then a right and his station is on the left with another across the street on the right. He told me he trains the new guys coming thru and his friend mike is with the older guys...there is so much in the last year I could go on forever...but there really has been less and less in the past few months, detail wise anyway that maybe he his forgetting already...oh he has said his friend Mike has two or three kids but one is the biggest four year old boy he's ever seen...I have written it down somewhat but this is just what I'm thinking of right now...he's a very quiet and kind child to everyone and I just hope this doesn't have some kind of lasting trauma to him...although he seems to not be bothered by talking about it on his own terms...almost seems better after he has talked about it...sorry so long winded.  
       
    Jeff

    I think you are the one that could help me with all the technical things he has told me about...he has said that he's also a scuba diver...he talks about his gear and air tank...but says he rescues animals??But its funny though...he received flippers and mask as a present from someone, put them on and automatically walked backwards in them and fell into the pool backwards...then said "see this is how you do it" That's an aside but thought it was funny...This has been info he has telling me over a year so I'm going to try to pick out the technical firefighting things and see what you think...He has said he has a bucket truck and he rides in the bucket...he showed me with his hand how the bucket goes up and he said when you come down you don't just come down you bounce a little at the bottom and showed me with his hand...he told he has lots of firefighter friends and one drives his bucket. He showed me with his hands again that there are two levers one is forward for up and another for down or something like that...also something about engaging levers to spray hoses from the bucket...he thinks his bucket has a three on it? 3 has come up a lot...on his truck, but he kind of waivers back and forth about the #3...he has said it's on his hat he thinks...could he have been on a ladder truck and rescue? He is also sure his hat is black with yellow stripe.

    He said he has a picture of a wolf with a moon in his truck and always calls it "his" truck...he rides in the front he said...but he is not chief...this may not make sense but it is what he tells me. He has said several times about an old truck getting wrecked or dying and getting a new truck...he has told me firemen follow the leader up a line in a fire and if falls off the line he uses a bright light and sometimes a camera to find them and makes them say cheese (there's the three year old talking)...something about to spray water you push the lever down for off and up for on...when talking about 9/11 (I think ) he said people were falling from a building because they wouldn't wait...he was on the floor with his breathing mask on and tried t get out a window but it was too small so he used his ax to break a hole so he could get the people out. To answer someone else's question about if he seems scared about this...no its very matter of fact. Just statements...although his has lined up four fire hats in my bedroom so he said we could get to them quicker if we need them. His room of course set up like a fire station everything according to where he says it goes...the funny thing is he said to me one day he needs a real air tank and a real ax for his fire station room because the ones he has are play ones and don't work! Pretty funny ! Anyway let me know what you think?

    It continues on link....
    Micjer wrote:Story #2 by the cynicalone

    Thank you for sharing your story! I have a similar story that began about the time my, now 7 year old, could talk. He insists that he was a business man who worked in a building in NY and that something happened, an explosion, above him and his office shook and got too hot very fast. He has also spoken of not being able to find a way out because the ceiling had collapsed and blocked his way to the stairs. When he was about three my sister was flipping through an old National Geographic mag in front of him and she came to a page with a NY backdrop with the twin towers. He became extremely excited and pointed to a particular window and said that's where I use to work! He has told my mother and I that he once fell with a building and was still underneath it.

    I found your wonderful post on another website and the person who posted it linked me here. He is now 7 and there are NUMEROUS things said that have made believers of our entire family. Here is what I posted in the other forum before being linked here because this morning he said something so profound to me that I am now actively seeking others like him.

    "Thank you for posting this micjer. I watch who I tell this to because people just think you're insane. My 7yr old son has been talking about his experience in the tower since he could speak and still is. We never allowed him to watch anything about 911 until this year and he said,"It really happened! It really happened! It's not just a dream. I was right about there. So that's what happened to me?" Since he could speak he has refused to go into any elevator past the 5th floor for fear of an explosion and inability to get out. He refuses to go near any tall buildings. He has obsessed over planes and likes to know their routes at all times, always has and asks about his dog a lot. We've never owned one. But he claims he got one when he was 25. He said that he remembers jumping or falling, because there was some type of explosion over him and the walls kept coming in and it was hot. Then he has always said he remembers falling with bricks and rubble and being buried in it. However he says he watched himself hit the ground from above himself and describes a pretty nasty scene.

    He has drawn pictures at school of a crashing building with a man falling with bricks and rubble, which I have gotten calls about. He has said, since he could talk that he is from NY, hated his parents who were drunks and abusive, got married early and got the hell out and moved into NY city. He also talks a lot about remembering ferry rides with friends to the Statue of Liberty and how much he loved that as a young man. This is just the short version of the very detailed information he has about that experience. He also talks about being thousands of years old all the time. This morning he woke up, after I had saged the house yesterday, and said," Honey," which he has always called me, "I need your help. I need to go to NY where the towers were and say good-bye to Robert." I asked who Robert was and he said it was him and he needs to go there and say good-bye to that life. I told him that maybe this summer I will do everything in my power to make it happen for him.

    He also wants to ferry ride to his favorite spot, The statue. He insists we take a plane because he said he needs to get over that too. He was in like a daze when he spoke too. Just stared right through me. I suspect he traveled and got counsel while sleeping. I thought he was the only child on earth saying these things. He also claims to have watched and chose me to take care of him before he was born. He has always called me honey like an old man. Unfortunately he doesn't mesh well with other 7 year olds and likes to go to graveyards because he said he wants to make sure that he gets to pick what happens to his body this time around. If you ever need to chat please feel free to message me. Maybe we can find other parents experiencing this same thing and meet at the towers with the kids this summer. Also, he said if we took him he'd take us to what use to be his favorite restaurant. I am just so relieved that we're not the only ones experiencing this!!! Thank you so much for sharing!!!"

    We are not alone. He speaks of other lives also and one day asked me if I could see our souls because they were bigger than the car we were driving in. He claims to be thousands of human years old and once when my eldest son was in the hospital with pneumonia, Which terrified me, my little old man said to me," Honey, I've been around this earth at least 189 times now and you what? It's always OK in the end." Sorry such a long post but so excited to not be alone in what's happening here.

    Chosen

    My gosh. And other children claiming to have chosen. Mine says that to me all of the time. He says he watched me from "Spirit World" and chose me. He also asked my eldest son, who is now 17, if he remembers how he use to sit on the stairs and watch him and try to talk to him. Well, about a year before he was born my eldest son slept with me and my husband because he kept seeing a little boy sitting on the top on the stairs at night trying to communicate with him. he wouldn't even go upstairs alone. Wow. I am so happy to have found this forum.
    enemyofNWO wrote:Out of the mouths of babes: Extensive research indicates that reincarnation is real

    http://www.sott.net/article/289827-Out-of-the-mouths-of-babes-Extensive-research-indicates-that-reincarnation-is-real

    Multiple researchers have thoroughly investigated cases of children who report past-life memories. In many cases, the details given by a child have been verified to correspond (sometimes with startling accuracy) to a deceased person. In other cases, the details have been more difficult to verify.

    Even in the most convincing cases, some will find a grain of doubt. Could the parents have influenced their suggestible children with a certain line of questioning? Could the children have overheard information and repeated it without their parents' knowledge? Could an overactive imagination or desire for attention have fueled the talk of a past life? Maybe probability can explain how the "memories" match up with real people or events, maybe they're just lucky guesses.

    The Psychology

    Psychologist Dr. Erlendur Haraldsson, professor emeritus at the University of Iceland in Reykjavik, studied 30 children in Lebanon who had persistently spoken of past-life memories, comparing these children to a test group of 30 other children. Dr. Haraldsson wondered whether children who associate so strongly with being another person (their past-life incarnation) are psychologically similar to people with multiple personalities.

    He tested the children to see whether they were more likely than their peers to have dissociative tendencies, for example. Dr. Haraldsson explained in his paper "Children Who Speak of Past-Life Experiences: Is There a Psychological Explanation?" published by The British Psychological Society in 2003: "The concept of dissociation has been used to describe a variety of psychological processes ranging from those that are perfectly normal, such as divided attention and daydreaming, to the appearance of multiple personalities in the same person with limited or no awareness of each other."

    He found that the children with purported past-life memories "obtained higher scores for daydreaming, attention-seeking, and dissociation, but not for social isolation and suggestibility." However, he found "that the level of dissociation was much lower than in cases of multiple personality and not clinically relevant."

    In the same paper, he referred to his field study in Sri Lanka. He found that children there who spoke of past lives would daydream more than their peers, but there was no indication that they were more likely to fabricate imaginary experiences. Nor were they found to be more suggestible. In one of his studies in Sri Lanka, he found these children to have larger vocabularies, to obtain higher scores on a brief intelligence test, and to have better school performance than their peers.

    Haraldsson cited Dr. Ian Stevenson, known for his systematic study, starting in the 1960s, of thousands of cases in which children have reported past-life memories. Stevenson followed up with many of the children and found that they almost all grew up to take their appropriate places in society and they had no outstanding psychological differences from their peers. Only one of the children Stevenson followed up with became schizophrenic in adult life.

    The Truth?

    Psychologists such as Haraldsson and Stevenson have made efforts to detect any psychological influence that may call into question the purported memories they investigate.

    In 1975, The Journal of the American Medical Association, wrote of Stevenson: "In regard to reincarnation he has painstakingly and unemotionally collected a detailed series of cases from India, cases in which the evidence is difficult to explain on any other grounds. ... He has placed on record a large amount of data that cannot be ignored."

    In 1994, Haraldsson published a paper titled "Replication Studies of Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation by Three Independent Investigators," in the Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, outlining studies that have replicated Stevenson's work.

    He summarized that: "To date Jurgen Keil has studied 60 cases in Burma, Thailand, and Turkey; Erlendur Haraldsson 25 cases in Sri Lanka; and Antonia Mills 38 cases in northern India. ... In 80 percent of the 123 cases, a deceased person has been identified who apparently corresponded to some or all of the child's statements. ... Of the 99 solved cases, the person the child claimed to be was unknown to the child's family in 51 percent, acquainted in 33 percent, and related in 16 percent. Of the combined sample of 123 cases, only one of the cases [one studied by Mills] appeared to be on the borderline between a consciously perpetrated hoax and self-deception."

    The paper included a few examples of cases in which the details of the memories were verified. One of those cases was that of Engin Sungur, born in December 1980 in Antakya Hospital, Hatay, Turkey.

    A Boy in Turkey

    When Sungur was a young boy, he made a trip with his family away from his native village of Tavla. While traveling, he pointed at a passing village named Hancagiz and said he used to live there. He said his name was Naif Cicek. He said he'd gone to Ankara before he had died.

    There was indeed a Naif Cicek who had died in that village a year before Sungur was born, but Sungur's family wouldn't find that out for some time yet. Sungur's family did not immediately comply with his requests to visit the village of his past life.

    At a later date, when Cicek's daughter was in Sungur's village of Tavla, before Sungur and Cicek's family had any contact, Sungur approached her and said, "I am your father."

    Sungur's mother eventually took him to Hancagiz to meet Cicek's family. The boy correctly identified several family members, including Cicek's widow. He indicated an oil lamp in Cicek's home and said he'd made it himself. He said his son had once hit him with his own truck while backing it up.

    All of the statements Sungur made were correct, they all matched the details of Cicek's life. Some other statements he made could not be verified, but he did not make any incorrect statements.

    Dr. Jim Tucker, Stevenson's successor in reincarnation studies at the University of Virginia, recounted similar cases in which the details of a child's past-life memories could be verified, in his book Return to Life: Extraordinary Cases of Children Who Remember Past Lives. But, he noted, as for in cases that can't be verified, "At the very least, they raise the question of what could possibly lead young children to believe they remember the events some of these children report."
    Continues at the link

    http://www.sott.net/article/289827-Out-of-the-mouths-of-babes-Extensive-research-indicates-that-reincarnation-is-real

    Micjer wrote:
    Another interesting story...

    http://cathy-byrd.com/

    The Boy That Knew Too Much

    “Mommy, I used to be a tall baseball player.”

    “Yes, you will be a tall baseball player someday.”

    With a look of exasperation, he stomped his foot and hollered.

    “No! I was a tall baseball player—tall like Daddy!”

    What was my son trying to say to me? Did he mean . . . he couldn’t mean . . . was he trying to tell me that he was a grown-up in a previous lifetime?

    At the tender age of two, baseball prodigy Christian Haupt began sharing vivid memories of being a baseball player in the 1920s and ’30s. From riding cross-country on trains, to his fierce rivalry with Babe Ruth, Christian described historical facts about the life of American hero and baseball legend Lou Gehrig that he could not have possibly known at the time.

    Distraught by her son’s uncanny revelations, Christian’s mother, Cathy, embarked on a sacred journey of discovery that
    would shake her beliefs to the core and forever change her views on life and death.

    In this compelling and heartwarming memoir, Cathy Byrd shares her remarkable experiences, the lessons she learned as she
    searched to find answers to this great mystery, and a story of healing in the lives of these intertwined souls.

    The Boy Who Knew Too Much will inspire even the greatest skeptics to consider the possibility that love never dies.



    Photo of Christian at Lou Gehrig’s grave when Christian was 6 years old.
    This marked the end of Christian’s spontaneous recollections of a life as Lou Gehrig.




    A team photo of the 1927 Yankees. Our son pointed to Lou Gehrig and said, “That’s me!” at the age of three.


    A photo of Lou Gehrig’s parents Henry and Christina Gehrig, which is significant
    because our son was able to correctly identify their names at the age of three.


    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/pages/cathy-byrd-images
    orthodoxymoron wrote:These posts are incredible, yet I never know what to believe, or how to interpret the evidence. I once spoke with a preacher in a big church about reincarnation, and he said "It's of the Devil!!" Still, I have used some aspects of reincarnation in my posting on this website, but I have discovered that reincarnation is a "Can of Worms". Once, I told a stranger that "one life at a time was more than enough to deal with". She thought more of my comment than I did, and asked me if she could use my insight. There was more to it, but I can't remember the details. I have spent a significant amount of time thinking about a "Final Judgement" and this concept becomes much more frightening (to me) if we have existed for thousands, millions, billions, or trillions of years. Someone I spoke with for several months said "I Am RA". He said we had "fought side-by-side" and that we had a "history together". They said the name 'Serqet' had a lot to do with that history. 'RA' said they had "always remained one step ahead of humanity" and that they "liked Genesis". They said they were "angry and jealous". Reincarnation could provide support for the doctrines of 'Original Sin' and 'Inherited Guilt'. In other words, there is a possibility that many (or all) of us overthrew an Ancient God of This World, Solar System, Galaxy, or Universe, and embraced another one.

    There might not be a Galactic Statute of Limitations. I get the sinking-feeling that many (or all) of us have been involved in very-nasty Ancient Star-Wars. When reincarnation is fully explored, unimaginable 'latent conflicts' might be unleashed. I'm NOT kidding when I refer to reincarnation as being a 'Can of Worms'. Demonic beings could conceivably provide people with various historical 'memories'. I have attempted to place myself in the middle of various historical events, and I only employ this practice as a research-methodology, but I often wish I hadn't. I received a strange message in my word-processor several years ago, and I don't know how it got there. I take it with a Sea of Salt, but I still use it in my research and posting (for better or worse, I know not). It is the second bold-print section below. I apologize for repeatedly bringing this up , but I'm seeking some sort of clarification and resolution in this matter. I've given it a science-fictional context. Most of the forum members stopped talking to me a long time ago, and I think I can understand why. Most everyone has stopped talking to me (or perhaps I stopped talking to them).

    I don't trust people or gods!! I don't even trust myself!! In my youth, I thought I might like to be some sort of an evangelist, but I got so disoriented and disillusioned, that I went downhill, and remained at the bottom of the hill (at the bottom of a cliff)!! What if there are very-real gods and goddesses who create very-fake gods and goddesses (along with puppet politicians and preachers)??!! Even if every word of the Bible were absolutely true, things would still be a HUGE mess!! No matter how one attempts to create theological-foundations, they are always wrong, and then one is left with defending the indefensible (if one wishes to retain fame, fortune, and power)!! But this might be exactly what the real gods and goddesses want!! My current theory is that a good-god was deposed by a bad-god (in antiquity) because the people the good-god created were too stupid to see through the lies (and that they remain too stupid to see through the lies)!! My theory is that the reality of our predicament is something no-one wishes to honestly deal-with!! I'm presently studying a somewhat scholarly Bible-Commentary, along with a somewhat scholarly History of European and American Democratic-Developments!! I've almost completely abandoned attempting to keep-up with the madness!! I'm re-watching Independence Day today!!


    GEORGE ZEBROWSKI was born December 28, 1945, in Villach, Austria, of Polish parents. He grew up in England, Manhattan, the Bronx and Miami, and he is one of an extremely small group of authors who have achieved literary success in a second language. He attended Harpur College and the State University of New York at Binghamton, majoring in philosophy, and he brings his interest in this field to his writing-several of his science fiction stories utilize philosophical concepts.

    He is a member of the World Future Society, Science Fiction Writers of America, and the SFWA Speakers' Bureau. He has reviewed books for Craw daddy, Science Fiction Review and Riverside Quarterly,- has been a reader for Dell Books; has sold fiction to The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, If, Infinity and to several forthcoming collections of original stories. Currently he lectures in science fiction at SUNY-Binghamton, edits the SfWA Bulletin and writes. His two forthcoming novels are The Omega Point and Macrolife.

    The story "Heathen God" was a 1971 Nebula Award finalist.
    . . . every heathen deity has its place in the flow of existence."

    The isolation station and preserve for alien flora and fauna on Antares IV had only one prisoner, a three-foot-tall gnome like biped with skin like creased leather and eyes like great glass globes. His hair was silky white and reached down to his shoulders, and he usually went about the great natural park naked. He lived in a small white cell located in one of the huge. block like administration modules. There was a small bed in the cell, and a small doorway which led out to the park. A hundred feet away from the door there was a small pool, one of many scattered throughout the park. It reflected the deep-blue color of the sky.

    The gnome was very old, but no one had yet determined quite how old. And there seemed to be no way to find out. The gnome himself had never volunteered any information about his past. In the one hundred years of his imprisonment he had never asked the caretaker for anything. It was rumored among the small staff of Earthmen and humanoids that the gnome was mad. Generally they avoided him. Sometimes they would watch his small figure standing under the deep blue sky, looking up at the giant disk of Antares hanging blood red on the horizon, just above the well pruned trees of the park, and they would wonder what he might be thinking.

    The majority of Earthmen spread over twelve star systems did not even know of the gnome's existence, much less his importance. A few knew, but they were mostly scholarly and political figures, and a few theologians. The most important fact about the alien was that sometime in the remote past he had been responsible for the construction of the solar system and the emergence of intelligent life on Earth.

    The secret had been well kept for over a, century. In the one hundred and fourth year of the alien's captivity two men set out for Antares to visit him. The first man's motives were practical: the toppling of an old regime; the other man's goal was to ask questions. The first man's political enemies had helped him undertake this journey, seeing that it would give them the chance to destroy him. The importance of gaining definitive information about the alien was in itself enough reason to send a mission, but combined with what they knew about the motives of the man they feared, this mission would provide for them the perfect occasion to resolve both matters at the same time. In any case, the second man would bring back anything of value that they might learn about the gnome.

    Everything had been planned down to the last detail. The first ship carrying the two unsuspecting men was almost ready to come out of hyperspace near Antares. Two hours behind it in the warp was a military vessel-a small troop ship. As the first vessel came out of nothingness into the brilliance of the great star, the commander of the small force ship opened his sealed orders.

    As he came down the shuttle ramp with his two companions, Father Louis Chavez tried to mentally prepare himself for what he would find here. It was still difficult to believe what his superiors had told him about the alien who was a prisoner here. The morning air of Antares IV was fresh, and the immediate impression was one of stepping out into a warm botanical garden. At his left Sister Guinivere carried his small attaché case. On his right walked Benedict Compton, linguist, cultural anthropologist, and as everyone took for granted, eventual candidate for first secretary of Earth's Northern Hemisphere. Compton was potentially a religious man, but the kind who always demanded an advance guarantee before committing himself to anything: Chavez felt suspicious of him; in fact he felt wary about this entire visit to Antares IV.

    On Earth the religio-philosophic system was a blend of evolutionary Chardinism and Christianity, an imposing intellectual structure that had been dominant for some two hundred years now. The political structure based its legitimacy and continuing policies on it. Compton, from what he had learned, had frightened some high authorities with the claim that the gnome creature here on Antares IV was a potential threat to the beliefs of mankind. This, combined with what was already known about the alien's past, was seemingly enough to send this fact-finding mission. Only a few men knew about it, and Chavez remembered the fear he had sensed in them when he had been briefed. Their greatest fear was that somehow the gnome's history would become public knowledge. Compton, despite his motives, had found a few more political friends. But Chavez suspected that Compton wanted power not for himself, but to do something about the quality of life on Earth. He was sure the man was sincere. How little of the thought in our official faith filters out into actual policy, Chavez thought. And what would the government do if an unorganized faith-a heresy in the old sense-were to result from this meeting between Compton and the alien? Then he remembered how Compton had rushed this whole visit. He wondered just how far a man like Compton would go to have his way in the world.

    Antares was huge on the horizon, a massive red disk against a deep blue sky. A slight breeze waved the trees around the landing square. The pathway which started at the north corner led to three block like administration buildings set on a neat lawn and surrounded by flowering shrubs and fruit-bearing trees. The buildings were a bright white color. The walk was pleasant.

    Rufus Kade, the caretaker, met them at the front entrance to the main building. He showed them into the comfortable reception room. He was a tall, thin botanist, who had taken the administrative post because it gave him the opportunity to be near exotic plants. Some of the flora came from worlds as much as one hundred light-years away from Antares. After the introductions were over, Kade took the party to the enclosed garden which had a pool in its center, and where the gnome spent most of his time.

    "Do you ever talk with him, Mr. Kade?" Father Chavez asked. The caretaker shook his head. "No," he said. "And now I hope you will all excuse me, I have work to do." He left them at the entrance to the garden path. Compton turned to Father Chavez and said, "You are lucky; you're the only representative of any church ever to get a chance to meet what might be the central deity of that church." He smiled. "But I feel sorry for you-for whatever he is, he will not be what you expect, and most certainly he will not be what you want him to be."

    "Let's wait and see," Chavez said. "I'm not a credulous man."

    "You know, Chavez," Compton said in a more serious mood, "they let me come here too easily. What I mean is they took my word for the danger involved with little or no question."

    "Should they have not taken your word? You are an important man. You sound as if you didn't quite tell them everything."

    They walked into the garden. On either side of them the plants were luxurious, with huge green leaves and strange varicolored flowers. The air was filled with rich scents, and the earth gave the sensation of being very moist and loosely packed. They came into the open area surrounding the pool. Sister Guinivere stood between the two men as they looked at the scene. The water was still, and the disk of Antares was high enough now in the morning sky to be reflected in it.

    The gnome stood on the far side, watching them as they approached, as if he expected them at any moment to break into some words of greeting. Father Chavez knew that they would appear as giants next to the small figure. It would be awkward standing before a member of a race a million years older than mankind and towering over him. It would be aesthetically banal, Chavez thought.

    As they came to the other side of the pool Compton said, "Let me start the conversation, Father."

    "If you wish," Chavez said. 'Why am I afraid, and what does it matter who starts the conversation?' he thought.

    Compton walked up to the standing gnome and sat down cross-legged in front of him. It was a diplomatic gesture. Father Chavez felt relieved and followed the example, motioning Sister Guinivere to do the same. They all looked at the small alien. His eyes were deep-set and large; his hair was white, thin and reached down to his shoulders. He had held his hands behind his back when they had approached, but now they were together in front of him. His shoulders were narrow and his arms were thin. He wore a one-piece coverall with short sleeves. Chavez hoped they would be able to talk to him easily. The gnome looked at each of them in turn. After a few minutes of silence it became obvious that he expected them to start the conversation.

    "My name is Benedict Compton," Compton said, "and this is Father Chavez and Sister Guinivere, his secretary. We came here to ask you about your past, because it concerns us."

    Slowly the gnome nodded his head, but he did not sit with them. There was more silence. Compton gave Chavez a questioning look. "Could you tell us who you are?" Chavez asked. The gnome moved his head sharply to look at him. It's almost as if I interrupted him at something, Chavez thought. There was a sad look on the face now, as if in that one moment he had understood everything-why they were here and the part he would have to play. Chavez felt his stomach grow tense. He felt as if he were being carefully examined. Next to him Compton was playing with a blade of grass. Sister Guinivere sat with her hands folded in her lap. Briefly he recalled the facts he knew about the alien-facts which only a few Earthmen had been given access to over the last century. Facts which demanded that some sort of official attitude be taken. The best-kept secret of the past century was the fact that this small creature had initiated the events which led to the emergence of intelligent life on Earth. In the far past he had harnessed his powers of imagination to a vast machine, which had been built for another purpose, and had used it to create most of the life on Earth. He had been caught at his experiments in cosmology, and exiled. Long before men had gone out to the stars he had been a wanderer in the galaxy, but in recent years he had been handed over to Earth authorities to keep at this extraterrestrial preserve.

    Apparently his people still feared his madness. This was all they had ever revealed to the few Earthmen who took charge of the matter., It was conjectured that the gnome's race was highly isolationist; the gnome was the only member of it that had ever been seen by Earthmen. The opinion was also held that his culture feared contact with other intelligent life, and especially with this illegitimate creation. Of the few who knew about the case, only one or two had ever expressed any disbelief. It was after all, Chavez thought, enough to make any man uneasy. It seemed safer to ignore the matter most of the time. Since that one contact with Earth, the gnome's race had never come back for him and had never offered further explanations. A century ago they had simply left him in Earth orbit, in a small vessel of undeniably superior workmanship. A recorded message gave all the information they had wanted to reveal. Their home world had never been found, and the gnome had remained silent. Benedict Compton had set up this meeting, and Chavez had been briefed by his superiors and instructed to go along as an observer.

    Chavez remembered how the information had at first shaken and then puzzled him. The tension in his stomach grew worse. He wondered about Compton's motives; but he had not dared to question them openly. On Earth many scientists prized the alien as the only contact with a truly advanced culture, and he knew that more than one young student would do anything to unlock the secrets that must surely exist in the brain of the small being now standing in front of him. He felt sure that Compton was hoping for some such thing. Suddenly the small figure took a step back from them. A small breeze waved his long white hair. He stopped and his small, gnarly body took on a strange stature; his face was grief-stricken and his low voice was sad. It wavered as he spoke to them. "I made you to love each other, and through yourselves, me. I needed that love. No one can know how much I needed it, but it had to be freely given, so I had to permit the possibility of it being withheld. There was no other way, and there still is not."

    Chavez looked at Compton for a reaction. The big man sat very still. Sister Guinivere was looking down at the grass in front of her feet. Chavez felt a stirring of fear and panic in his insides. It felt as if the alien was speaking only to him--as if he could relieve the thirst that lived behind those deep-set eyes in that small head. He felt the other's need. lie felt the deprivation that was visible on that face, and he felt that at any moment he would feel the awesome rage that would spill out onto them. This then, he thought, is the madness that his race had spoken about- All the power had been stripped from this being, and now he is a beggar. Instead of rage there was sadness. It was oppressive- It hung in the air around them. What was Compton trying to uncover here? How could all this benefit anyone? Chavez noticed that his left hand was shaking, and he gripped it with the other hand.

    The gnome raised his right hand and spoke again. Dear God, help me, Chavez prayed. Help me to see this clearly. "I rebelled from the hive mind which my race was working toward," the gnome said in a louder voice than before. `"They have achieved it. They are one entity now. What you see in this dwarfed body are only the essentials of myself-the feelings mostly. They wait for the day when the love in my children comes to fruition and they will unite, thus recreating my former self which is now in them. Then I will leave my prison and return to them to become the completion of myself. This body will die then. My longing for that time is without limit, and I will make another history like this one and see it through. Each time I will be the completion of a species and its moving spirit. And again they will give birth to me.  Without this I am nothing."

    There was a loud thunderclap overhead, the unmistakable sound of a shuttle coming through the atmosphere. But it was too early for the starship shuttle to be coming back for them, Chavez thought. Compton jumped up and turned to look toward the administration buildings. Chavez noticed that the gnome was looking at him. Do your people worship a supreme being? Chavez thought the question. Do they have the idea of such a being? Surely you know the meaning of such a being.

    I don't know any such thing, the thought spoke clearly in his head. Do you know him?

    "It's a shuttle craft," Compton said. "Someone's coming to join us."

    Chavez got to his feet and went over to Compton. Sister Guinivere struggled to her feet and joined them. "What is it?" she asked.

    "I-I don't know who it could be," Compton said. Chavez noticed the lack of confidence in the other's voice. Behind them the gnome stood perfectly still, unaffected by the interruption.

    "They've landed by now," Compton said. "It could only be one thing, Father-they've found out my plans for the gnome." Compton came up to him and spoke in a low voice. "Father, this is the only way to get a change on Earth-yes, it's what you think, a cult, with me as its head, but the cause is just. Join me now, Father!"

    Then it's true, Chavez thought. He's planning to bypass the lawful candidacy. Then why did they let him come here?

    There was a rustling sound in the trees and shrubs around the pool area. Suddenly they were surrounded by armed men. Twenty figures in full battle gear had stepped out from the trees and garden shrubs. They stood perfectly still, waiting.

    Antares was directly overhead now, a dark-red circle of light covering twenty percent of the blue dome that was the sky. Noontime.

    Compton's voice shook as he shouted, "What is this? Who the devil are you?"

    A tall man immediately on the other side of the pool from them appeared to be the commanding officer. He wore no gear and there were no weapons in his hands. Instead he held a small piece of paper which he had just taken out of a sealed envelope.

    "Stand away, Father, and you too, Sister!" the officer shouted. "This does not concern you." Then he looked down at the paper in his hand and read: "Benedict Compton, you have been charged with conspiracy to overthrow the government of the Northern Hemisphere on Earth by unlawful means, and you have been tried and convicted by the high court of North America for this crime. The crime involves the use of an alien being as your coconspirator to initiate a religious controversy through a personally financed campaign which would result in your becoming the leader of a subversive cult, whose aim would be to seize power through a carefully prepared hoax. You and your co-conspirator are being eliminated because you are both enemies of the state." The officer folded the paper and put it back in its envelope and placed it in his tunic. Chavez noticed that Sister Guinivere was at his side, and he could tell that she was afraid. Compton turned to Chavez.

    "Father, protect the gnome, whatever he is. Use what authority you have. They won't touch you."

    "The execution order is signed by Secretary Alcibiad herself!" the tall officer shouted.

    Chavez was silent.

    "Father, please!" Compton pleaded. "You can't let this happen." Chavez heard the words, but he was numb with surprise. The words had transfixed him as effectively as any spear. He couldn't move, he couldn't think. Sister Guinivere held his arm. Suddenly Compton was moving toward the gnome.

    "Shoot!"

    The lasers reached out like tongues. The little figure fell. And the thought went out from him in one last effort, reaching light-years into space. I loved you. You did not love me, or each other. They all heard the thought, and it stopped them momentarily. Compton was still standing, but his right arm was gone, and he was bleeding noisily onto the grass.

    "Shoot!" The order went out again. Again the lasers lashed out. Compton fell on his back, a few yards from the gnome. Sister Guinivere fell to the grass on her knees, sobbing. She began to wail. The soldiers began to retreat back to their shuttle craft. Father Chavez sat down on the ground. lie didn't know what to do. lie looked at the two bodies. There was smoke coming from Compton's clothing. The gnome's hair was aflame. The tall officer now stood alone on the other side of the pool Chavez knew that his orders had probably been sealed, and he only now felt their full force. After a few moments the tall officer turned and went after his men. The alien knew this would happen, Chavez thought. He knew, and that was why he told us everything.

    When the great disk of Antares was forty-five degrees above the horizon, Rufus Kade came out to theca. He put the two bodies in plastic specimen bags. Sister Guinivere was calm now and was holding Father Chavez's hand. They both stood up when Kade was finished with the bodies. "They had an official pass from way up," Kade said. "I even checked back on it." He walked slowly with them to the administration building. The shuttle to the starship was ready.

    Thirty hours out from Antares, Father Chavez sat alone in his small cabin looking at the small monitor which showed him where he had been. Soon now the brilliance of the stars would be replaced by the dull emptiness of hyperspace. Antares was a small red disk on the screen. Momentarily Chavez resented the fact that he had been a creation to the gnome. In any case the alien had not been God. His future importance would be no greater than that of Christ-probably less. He had been only an architect, a mere shaper of materials which had existed long before even his great race had come into being. But still-was he not closer to God than any man had ever been? Or would be? The completion for which the gnome had made man would never take place now. The point of mankind's existence as he had made it was gone. And the alien had not known God. If there was such a being, a greatest possible being, he now seemed hopelessly remote . . .

    'O Lord, I pray for a sign!' Chavez thought. But he heard only his thoughts and nothing from the being who would surely have answered in a case like this. And he had stood by while they killed the gnome there in the garden by the poolside, on that planet circling the red star whose diameter was greater than the orbit of Mars. Despite all his reasoning now, Chavez knew that he had stood back while they killed that part of the small creature which had loved humanity.

    But what had he said? The rest of the gnome's being was humanity, and it still existed; except that now it would never be reunited with him. "Do not fear," the holy Antony had said three thousand years ago, "this goodness as a thing impossible, nor its pursuit as something alien, set a great way off. It hangeth on our own arbitrament. For the sake of the Greek learning men go overseas.. . but the city of God is everywhere . . . the kingdom of God is within. The goodness that is in us only asks the human mind." What we can do for ourselves, Chavez thought, that's all that is ours now: goals.

    He took a deep breath as the starship slipped into the nothingness of hyperspace. He felt the burden of the political power which he now carried as a witness to the alien's murder, and he knew that Compton's life had not been for nothing. He would have to hide his intentions carefully, but he knew what he would have to do.

    In time, he hoped anew, we may still give birth to the semblance of godhood that lives on in mankind, on that small world which circles a yellow sun.


    You were Incarnate 2000 Years ago and let Us also say that You brought the Prime Creator's Message to the People (Big "G"). After You had been exiled to the far east in those times - A Usurper (Jesus Cesarian) was set up to draw others away from Your Message and to corrupt It. 300 Years Later - The Council of Nicea was convened by a Roman Emperor (Constantine) to reduce the understandings You'd brought to the People - From approximately 37 Books down to 5. Under the Tutelage of these Controller's - Classical Christian Religion was enacted and forced upon the People over the next 1700 Years...The True Teachings of Yeshua are being held in the Vatican Archives so that They can remain on Top as Controllers (See Stigmata: We need no Men or Buildings to reach the Prime Creator was the Thrust of the Teachings kept secret - The Path within). Does this then mean that the Man  that originally brought the Message was trying to deceive Us? Or is It rather that the Controller's perverted the Understandings that You'd brought Us previously on Purpose? Simply put - I would say - The Later...This is the Crux and one They have worked hard to convolute...

    mudra wrote: As I read this I thought this could well be Oxy's biography Wink

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    Thank-you mudra. As most of you know, I model various concepts and personalities, which do not necessarily reflect who I am in "real-life". I have been given various hints at who I might be on a soul-basis, by various individuals of interest, but I have no idea where the truth ends, and the BS begins. This whole thing often feels like a set-up. If this story did apply to me in some way, shape, or form, that might be a VERY Bad Thing!! The so-called "Ancient Egyptian Deity" I spoke with for several months (in 2010-11) made various suggestions to me, about who I might be, and what my role might be, but they seemed to HATE Me (while being very polite and charming)!! I don't wish to repeat what we discussed, but it scared the hell out of me!! Notice what George Zebrowski said about what "Holy Antony" said 3,000 years ago!! Compare that with the strange message I found in my word-processor (regarding me supposedly writing in antiquity)!! 1,100 BC to AD 100 is of particular interest to me. If someone of note was deposed 5,000 to 6,000 years ago, they might've written various things from time to time (if they remained in this solar-system)!! I'm still looking for a missing 32-37 book commentary on a Pre New-Testament World. I don't trust history!! Not Knowing is Driving Me Crazy!! But Knowing Might Drive Me Even Crazier!! Knowing What I Think About Would Drive Everyone Crazy!! I mostly play internet-games on this website!! This is just a fishing-expedition!! BTW, have you ever heard of the Human Gnome Project??!! Someone who knew someone on the Human Genome Project told me they had learned how smart I was (even though I had never exhibited significant intelligence in their presence). Could this have had something to do with Zebrowski's story?! Probably not, but sometimes I wonder as I wander!!












    mudra wrote:


    The world's largest Victorian greenhouse has reopened in London

    If you have green fingers, you may put wish to put the Royal Botanical Gardens, Kew, in London on your travel list. It has just reopened the world’s largest Victorian glasshouse, the Temperate House, after a five-year restoration at a cost of £41 million ($55 million). This was deemed necessary because of its advancing age and the complex internal conditions required to maintain the plants it houses.

    More than 5280 litres of paint were used on the 4880-square-metre glasshouse, which was originally built in 1860 and had fallen into a state of disrepair. The Grade I-listed structure was stripped back to bare metal by 400 staff members and contractors, who worked in phases on the project.

    Throughout its history, the Temperate House has been home to some of Kew’s most fascinating and noteworthy plants. The greenhouse is now home to a collection of 10,000 plants from temperate climates around the world, and these include some of the rarest specimens and those under threat.

    read on: Arrow https://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/2018/05/07/worlds-largest-victorian-greenhouse-reopens/

    Love Always
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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for posting this, mudra!! I've concluded that my strange manner of research should probably be centered in Victorian England (in a modern sense) if that makes sense!! I love glass-buildings combined with nature!! I have the most simple yet profound concept of a glass-cathedral combined with nature. Too-bad I'm too-old, too-poor, and too-stupid to implement yet another foolish pipe-dream!! I have a good-heart, but I seem to be waiting for something!! Another life, perhaps?! Who Knows?? Dr. Who?? Anu?? Who??
    mudra wrote:I love glass-building combined with nature too Oxy. They go so well together :) I do imagine your glass-cathedral hand in glove with nature and I am in awe Thubs Up You are neither too old, nor too stupid and not even too poor, look Oxy your dream is coming true cheers

    Hugs

    Love Always
    mudra
    Thank-you mudra. I spent four-years participating in the all-glass 'Crystal Cathedral' in Garden Grove, California, and I've visited the 'Wayfarer's Chapel' in Palos Verdes, California, but I haven't been to 'Thorncrown Chapel' in Arkansas. There was a smaller church on the 'Crystal Cathedral' campus, known as the 'Arboretum', and while much smaller and simpler than the larger church, in many ways it seemed to be a fundamentally-superior design, at a much-lower cost. I've imagined a larger, new and improved version of the 'Arboretum' in the context of 'Butchart Gardens' in Victoria, British Columbia (or any beautiful and natural setting). But imagining isn't doing, although Terrance McKenna privately told me "If You Dream It, You've Already Done It." I spent hours at the empty 'Hollywood Bowl' and 'Greek Theater' contemplating a completely outdoor ministry, but I was already losing my faith, so nothing came of that. The 'Crystal Palace' was very-cool, but it burned to the ground in 1936. What Would Prince Albert Say?? What Would Queen Victoria Say?? What Would Baron Stockmar Say?? What Would 'Dash' Say?? We had a dog named 'Flash'. Richard Hoagland claims there were 'Glass Structures' on the Moon!! What Would Edgar Mitchell Say?? What Would Robert Schuller Say?? If I remember correctly, 'Time to Tell the World' (on the original 'Project Avalon') spoke of a solar system war, in which management, headquarters, and glass-buildings were destroyed on Earth's Moon.











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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon May 21, 2018 12:49 pm

    I continue to feel Extremely Miserable and Hamstrung. It's as if I'm an Artificial-Stupidity Bio-Robot Infected with the Zombie-Virus!! A couple of days ago, one of those bright streaming lights appeared to pass between me and my laptop, except this one was much-brighter and lingered-longer!! Is this related to the bright circles of light I see when my eyes are closed, and I quickly move them from left to right?? It's got to be very-dark for this to work. The streaming-lights appear with my eyes open in broad-daylight. WTF?? I didn't sign-up for this sort of thing, and it's certainly NOT helping me!! I suspect that I might be some historical-somebody who was supposed to be exalted, exploited, exposed, and humiliated in modernity. I'd love to know where 'Merlin's Cave' is located!! Indio or Palm Springs?? What Would the Queen of Heaven and God of This World Say?? What Would Blanche Barton Say?? What Would Sherry Shriner Say?? What Would Brook Schiner Say?? What Would Artemis Say?? What Would Sekmet Say?? What Would Serqet Say?? What if Artemis aka Sekmet IS RA?? What if Serqet WAS RA?? What if this Bloody-Mess is a Cat-Fight Between Sekmet and Serqet?? What Would Art Bell Say?? What Would Jordan Maxwell Say?? What Would Barack Obama Say?? What Would Doug Batchelor Say?? What Would the Kennedy's Say?? That's All I'm Going to Say!!
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    Look at their reactions when they see the colours we see...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX0OodWU70w

    I wonder what we could see if we had full spectrum eyesight?  Shocked
    Carol wrote:
    Wonderful. I teared up watching their amazing reactions of wonderment. Outstanding! cheers
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I Cried. Sight is Miraculous. We take so many things for granted. Human-Life (as we know it) makes no sense with no God (or god) especially with the time-frame allotted on Earth for "Human-Evolution". Perhaps there might've been some sort of Universal-Evolution (going way, way, way, way, way back) but I suspect Master-Geneticists and Genetic-Engineering in relatively recent antiquity. Human-Life makes no sense with a genuinely Almighty-God (watching us suffer, without seeming to care, and without seeming to do much about it). I've speculated that the real-deal regarding Divinity and Humanity involves gods and goddesses who are mighty (but not almighty) at least in this particular solar system (for at least the past few thousand years). My current theory involves a Council of 42 with 42 Supercomputer-Linked Hybrids living in 42 600 square-foot office-apartments throughout the solar system (linked to the computers and each-other by the InterPlaNet). There might be 7 on Earth (one for each continent), and one on each of the most likely planets and moons in the solar system. Sorry for the tangent, but our existence might've involved a HUGE Amount of Sacrifice for thousands (or millions) of years, and our continued existence might be more precarious than we can possibly imagine. BTW, I recently spoke with someone who used the rare-term "Double-Entendre". Carol, didn't you once use that term when you were upset with me because of my "Demon-Baby" post?? Hmmmmm...
    Swanny wrote:
    mudra wrote:
    Lovely video. That wonderful sensation of having one's blinders removed and discovering a new world.

    Love from me
    mudra

    cheers
    I imagine that's what it's like for us when we die and go home.
    Very Happy
    Where is "HOME"?? In my SDA background, it was implied that "HOME" was in Orion (through the M-42 Nebula). There's "42" again!! But it was also implied that after "THIS WORLD" was destroyed (at the end of the "MILENNIUM") a "NEW WORLD" would take its place, and the "RIGHTEOUS" (presumably mostly SDA's) would live in this "NEW EARTH" forever with Jesus. But is "HOME" in Orion, or is it within this solar system?? Or is "HOME" in the Pleiades?? Approximately 10 years ago, I joked online about being O.H. KRLLL from Pleon (years before I learned there was actually a "Pleione"in the Pleiades)!! http://krlll.com/ I was severely rebuked for doing so!! Look at the early-posts on that site. I've left it untouched for nearly 10 years. One responder said "God Will NOT Have Mercy On You!!" I couldn't feel the love. I've frankly felt very little love throughout my life, and it's getting worse as I seem to be increasingly tortured by whoever and/or whatever REALLY runs this solar system. What is the proper and/or expected response?? Contrite Compliance to Who Knows Who and/or What?? At a writers-conference I attended, Frank Peretti mockingly spoke of people who didn't believe in "God" but believed in "Extraterrestrials from the Pleiades"!! Years later, I jokingly repeated this basic statement to a graduate of the Harvard Divinity School, and he seemed to seriously be in agreement with it!! Honest. Sherry Shriner speaks of Orion as being Predominantly Reptilian!! I continue to suspect that we don't know a damn-thing concerning just about everything-significant. But perhaps we're NOT supposed to know. Ignorance is Bliss and Virtue?? Perhaps It's Easier That Way!!





    NANUXII wrote:
    Very interesting video , something i have been studying for some time now.
    I Find it to be of a high quality in terms of useful information.


    orthodoxymoron wrote:I've been attempting to understand church and state by dividing both into the good-side and bad-side. I guess I'm attempting the positive-reinforcement of that which presently exists (even if this is an exercise in futility). It might not be possible to pick and choose. We might somehow be stuck with the most reprehensible state of affairs imaginable. I think I'm highly supernaturally attacked because of my religious and political science-fiction on this website (and perhaps because of who I might be on a soul-basis). I find this highly upsetting and suspicious, and no one seems to give a damn. What if this whole solar system is filled with ancient-demons??!! What if we are these ancient-demons??!! What if resistance is futile??!! What if we have been assimilated into a hellish-existence for all-eternity??!! What if we have made the Bible and History say what we wanted it to say (for thousands of years)??!! What if an honest interpretation is MUCH Darker??!! I should Stop!! Rank and File Roman Catholics are some of the nicest and most ethical people one can encounter, yet there is a dark-side to this enterprise. Same goes for Europe, the United States, the United Kingdom, and really the whole world. What the Hell is REALLY Going On??!!


    There's been virtually no feedback regarding most of my modeling and speculation. I've tried to place myself in the middle of a lot of this, just to make it more real, but I wish I hadn't. I'm honestly becoming more and more like Professor Agusto Monti, in the 1978 miniseries 'The Word'. What he discovered was too much for him to handle, so he shut-down, and ended-up in a mental-institution, just sitting-there without speaking, even though he was a brilliant scholar. I've never been a brilliant scholar, but I'm gradually shutting-down (as my mental, physical, and spiritual health worsens each and every day). I'm once again trying to End the Thread. I'm leaning toward reading Major-Newspapers while listening to Bach and Buxtehude, and very-little else. I've frankly had my fill of my threads. I had my chance. You had your chance. I think we all blew it (in one way or another). I might try to practice what I preach, and try to properly study and integrate Psalms, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, and Galatians (as if these eight books were the Whole-Bible). What are the implications and ramifications?? What Would Monseigneur Bowe Say?? The basic plan would be to read these eight books straight-through, in-order, over and over, in various translations, with these translations serving as rudimentary commentaries.

    This is one of the most disturbing posts I've ever made. Please take it with a Sea of Salt. The God of This Solar System = The Council of 42 = 42 Borg-Queens (In 600 Square-Foot Office-Apartments) = 42 Supercomputers Linked to 42 Hybrids (Throughout the Solar System via the InterPlaNet) = The Matrix = 2001 Monolith = Cray-Z = HAL 9000 = United-Nations 'Monolith' = Beast-Computer (From Antiquity to Modernity)?? What if all of the above were created by Enki aka Azazel aka O.H. KRLLL aka David Bowman?? Think About It. Read Between the Lines. But don't strain yourselves. Try 'Combining-Opposites'. What Would Shirley MacLaine Say?? "I Am God!!"?? Problem. Reaction. Solution. My Point?? Damned If I Know!! What Would COR Say?? What Would Mr. Edgars Say?? What Would Anubis Do?? What Would S.R. Hadden Say?? What Would Rachel Constantine Say?? What Would Ellie Arroway Say?? What Would Palmer Joss Say??










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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Mon May 21, 2018 1:24 pm

    Pris wrote:
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    Note:  for anyone who missed it, Oxy has edited his original comment already three times since I posted my exasperated response. My response was meant for the original comment that Oxy removed -- a comment which was far more ludicrous than the newest version sitting there right now lol. (Must remind myself to always quote Oxy so he can't pull that little trick on me again.)
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    Rehash.  Over and over. I could set my watch to you, Oxy.  You're like a cuckoo clock chiming every hour on the hour.
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    Carol wrote:CIA ANON Message Sent To Jim Stone Seems To Confirm What RMN Readers Always Suspected...IC Rules GOV...
    Posted By: Watchman
    Date: Thursday, 9-Mar-2017 09:38:39

    CIA ANON LEAKED THIS: CIA Intern here. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Julian has worse stuff than this. I am almost certain of that fact. I don't think the American public realizes just how dangerous the NSA and CIA are. EVERYTHING YOU DO WHILE CONNECTED ONLINE IS BEING WATCHED AND COLLECTED IN THE CLOUD. This place is corrupt as XXXX. I hate it here but I feel trapped. I legit feel like I will go "missing" if I speak up. Mike Pompeo won't change anything. We keep stuff hidden from the director. The President doesn't get briefed on most things that go on here. What he does get briefed on is largely FAKE information.

    Even if Pompeo wanted to change things he wouldn't be able to. THE CIA RUNS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. The President is a powerless figurehead in the grand scheme of things. The CIA hates Trump because he knows this and is exposing them. There are too many hostile employees here. Everything we do here involves undermining the new administration in some way. By the end of this week (Probably Friday or the weekend) the New York Times or the Washington Post will release their next "Russians influenced the election" The successful attacks on Flynn and Sessions strengthened the operations going on here. The CIA wants Bannon gone. He is their #1 target besides Trump. They are going to manufacture a narrative that Breitbart (under Bannon's orders) took money or a bribe from the Russian Government/Embassy in order to cover a certain story/say a certain thing. The story will spread like wildfire through the MSM as can be imagined.

    We have to fight back or this administration will be consumed by the Deep State. The rabbit hole is bigger than any of you could ever imagine. (Sorry for using Tor but I had no choice.) That is about all. Goodbye.

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    Pentagon Insider Gives Intel Update on #Vault7- VicturusLibertas.com - March 10, 2017       http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2017/03/pentagon-insider-gives-intel-update-on.html#more

    Q. Vault 7 is the biggest story of the year, right?
    A. It gets bigger by orders of magnitude.

    Q. So what happens now?
    A. The story will go well beyond Implants, C2’s, and LP’s.

    Q.  What does that mean?
    A. Listening posts, Malware. The danger is in how the CIA declassified “war code”. They also failed to keep different eggs in different baskets. This can be blamed on the agency not wanting to loop NSA in their plans. In essence, the CIA sought to create their own NSA.

    Q. What do you see happening next?
    A. Well, “Whack A Mole” takes on a whole new meaning!

    Q. Whoa…….
    A.  The media steps in. Talking heads bemoan the “threat to national security”, blame Russia, avoid any mention of Uk involvement or Israel, which by the way, is furious beyond belief and scared shitless  at the release of  Vault 7… as are the Brits.

    Q. We keep hearing this. Why?  The Brits and Israeli’s are allies, right?
    A.  Define ally? The CIA, MI6 and Israeli secret service have been engaged in asymmetrical espionage on civilians, both domestically and abroad. They turned their tradecraft on the civi’s. Thats not going to play out well. There are bigger floods ahead, I fear.

    Q. Floods?
    A. Its a term used to denote large scale leaks or breeches in intelligence.

    Q. What type of things can we expect?
    A.  Right now, the first dump concentrated on the CIA’s toolkit. The fear and loathing barometer tells me there is real concern the source code will get leaked, and even bigger concern the CIA’s past ‘activities” get exposed. If that happens, we will have a shockwave and an instant realignment of friends and foes.

    Q. Could you explain further?
    A. Lets say Wikileaks divulges that the CIA engages in domestic espionage in tandem with Mossad and MI6… Lets say CIA looks the other way while foreign nations are allowed to surveil American citizens… Lets say the people find out we created Isis with Israel, or the CIA really did neutralize Kennedy. Imagine how the citizens will view the CIA, Mossad and MI6.  In truth, these entities are not the beast, but rather the claws of the beast.  The combination of the CIA, Mossad and MI6 can be considered the greatest sponsors of terrorism in the world.

    Q.  Wow. So you are saying Wikileaks may leak the secret history of the CIA?
    A. I am sure its coming. Why did they use a Kennedy quote referencing the CIA’s destruction as their passphrase? I am pretty certain they plan to expose just who was behind the Kennedy assassination.

    Q. If foreign nations were behind 9/11, will the people sit idly and forget about it and go back to their everyday lives?
    A.  2 years ago, I would have been confident they would have behaved as the lemmings the CIA expects them to behave like. But the foundation of trust is eroding. People no longer trust DC, MSM, Banks, our courts, etc.

    Q.  Will Pedogate ever be fully exposed?
    A. Vault 7 will make certain that Pedogate is exposed. CIA and Mossad are behind much of it. Many in my close circle welcomes what Wikileaks has done.  Most military servicemen serve honorably. Most law enforcement as well. We want the swamp drained. If Trump muzzles Pence, and guides this nation by his instincts, my guess is he will gut the CIA, modernize it, kick the MI6 and Mossad out of the tent and start re-evaluating who our friends are.  Start with Saudi Arabia. Our relationship with the UK is very good from a military standpoint. That will not go away. But, we need to weaken the power and reach of our current intelligence community as it is forced to disengage from foreign intelligence services like Mi6 and Mossad. We have to stand alone.

    Q.  Whats the immediate effect of Vault 7 for the average computer user?
    A. Siege mentality, I would imagine. Is your anti virus actually a virus?  You will see computer “eye patches” being sold to cover the camera. Users will start to physically disable their mics, and only use headphone mic’s that you can detach when not using it.The public will equate all internet enabled consumer products as weapons of espionage and potential murder. The climate of the American public is one of distrust and apprehension.  They do not feel protected.  If you’re talking about a failure to protect America people, you can add, the CDC, the SEC, the USDA, Homeland Security, and just about every other branch of government. But, the sub rosa conclusions swim in even deeper waters. America feels sabotaged by it’s Government. We falsely believed we were spectators at a Roman Arena, watching the blood sport of foreign wars on our flat screens and computers. Iraq, Syria, Yemen. But, now we have soft terror in France, Germany, Turkey, United States, and so on.  And with the revelation of our devices listening in on us, its clear we are not spectators in the Roman Arena, but lion and gladiator fodder, as well.

    Q. So its all going to hell?
    A. No.  Vault 7 is a good thing, actually. From a military standpoint, it’s better to protect an aware civilian population than one that is programmed and obtuse . The average Joe and Mary damn well want to know if their kids are being spied on. The exploitation of these cybertools, in the hands of pedophiles, psychopaths and phishermen is what should really alarm people.  This is a watershed moment in American history, The pursuit of privacy may eclipse the pursuit of happiness.

    Q. Can I trust my phone?
    A. Google’s Android Operating System is used in almost 9 out of 10 smart phones globally. Google, Facebook and Apple may very well have sold backdoor access to the CIA. We call it Judas technology.
    I just received replies to my FOIA requests to the NSA and CIA, and you guessed it, the "replies" were "non-replies"!! Why am I NOT surprised??!! They basically said they didn't reply to "fishing-expeditions"!! I was really interested in their takes on my extended conversations with the so-called "Ancient Egyptian Deity"!! I have NO Doubt that they knew exactly what I was referring to!! Should I act like a midget with a "Big-Guy" thing going on?? Should I just let it go?? I might actually live longer if I just pretend that "Nothing Happened"!! I was involved in a small legal-battle (many years ago) with the opposing attorney's office located on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC!! I've sat in the office of an attorney who worked in a relatively top-level job in the Reagan Administration!! But that sort of thing just isn't my "Cup of Tea"!! I still like the idea of some sort of an "Off the Record" Informal "Meeting" such as when Jesse Marcel was briefed by "Townsend" (Martin Sheen) in "Roswell"!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-hRcHy2gh0 I have NO Idea how I am viewed by ANYONE (if anyone even gives a damn)!! There might come a time when "Officialdom" will wish to speak with me (at long last) but I won't be talking (to anyone, under any circumstances)!! I have NO Idea which way this thing is going to play out!! I might be the "Best of the Best" (having a bad lifetime) OR I might be the "Worst of the Worst" (having a good lifetime)!! I still think there might be something to the concept of an Investigative and Executive Judgment (terminating in or around A.D. 2133)!! The evidence is rather thin, but there is no substantial body of evidence to substantiate "Transubstantiation"!! Just "Eat the Flesh, Drink the Blood, and Get Back to Work (because we said so)!!"

    Nature and Sacred Classical Music probably constitute my current "Fundamentalist-Orthodoxy". A Definitive Law and Liturgy should probably be part of the package, but I am deeply conflicted in this regard, and I don't want to talk about it right now. I post a lot of solo organ-music, but I prefer a combination of Choir, Organ, Orchestra, and Congregation!! The organ-music is simply a Road Less Traveled for most people (even for church-goers)!! I try to be different on this website. I don't take sides!! I insult everyone!! It's a nasty-task, but someone must do it!! Are you deeply offended?? Do you prefer to be told what you wish to hear?? Perhaps you prefer someone who gives you what you want, while taking what you have?! Perhaps you've had that someone for the past 6,000 years?! Perhaps you'll have that someone for all-eternity?! The "Ancient Egyptian Deity" I spoke with for several months said "Humanity is VERY Easy to Mislead!!" They said they had "Always Remained One Step Ahead of Humanity!!" They said I'd be sorry if I tried to save Humanity!! Another "Individual of Interest" said an extermination was inevitable, and that we needed to start over. Honest. Honestly read Genesis to Esther, and the Book of Revelation. Honestly, Thoroughly, and Repeatedly. We should prayerfully and carefully consider ALL Possibilities. Especially the ones we don't like. Possibility-Thinking Trumps Positive-Thinking!! What Would Dr. Robert H. Schuller Say?? What Would Dr. Angela Kraft Cross Play at Notre Dame de Paris?? Vierne?? Angela and I once had a slight difference of opinion concerning church-music. I suggested that there might be a legitimate place for Contemporary Praise-Songs in church-services. Angela gave me a Cross-Look I'll NEVER forget!! Honest!! I lean toward Sacred Classical Music for formal-occasions, and Contemporary Praise Songs for informal-occasions!! There's a Time and Place for Almost Everything!!





    Has anyone noticed certain parallels between David Koresh and Sherry Shriner?? Sherry Shriner claims to be the 'Granddaughter of King David'!! David Koresh had an album titled 'Songs for Grandpa'!! Sherry Shriner seems to have lived certain ancient historical events. In the documentary-video on David Koresh below (at 13:45), a former cult-member said David seemed to see the Bible in a panorama, as if he had been involved in the actual biblical events (or something like that)!! Both David and Sherry seem fixated upon the Book of Revelation and the End of the World!! Both were at war with the government. Both owned and advocated firearms. I have speculated about the possibility of Multiple Bodies and Personalities of certain Beings Within This Solar System!! I've seen evidence of this!! I think I might've spoken face to face with at least one aspect of Sherry Shriner!! Honest!! This thing could get nastier and more-complex than ANY of US can possibly imagine!! I am EXTREMELY APPREHENSIVE!! But I still try to keep my internet-posting on the level of obscure and irreverent Religious and Political Science-Fiction, which is only REALLY Understood by Insiders!! If I ever get around to writing a book, it will be VERY Watered-Down!! It's easier that way!!





    I recently (February 2017) heard a very smart and tough woman talking, but I didn't see her. She seemed to have significant importance, and she reminded me of my speculation concerning a Solar System Administrator!! She also reminded me of that lady who got mad at Bill Cooper (toward the end of his 1989 MUFON lecture on UFO's and the Secret Government)!! Honest. I simultaneously like and dislike such a person. I respect intelligence, honesty, and being 'to the point', but I'm a sensitive-boy, and I can't withstand much abuse!! Perhaps I should get used to it. "You will have to come here to get the money!!" "Why did you do THAT??!!" "How About a Table-Dance!!" "I Don't Want to Talk to You Anymore!! Bye-Bye!!" Perhaps we can meet someday!! Perhaps we already have!! Several months ago, I heard a somewhat familiar (black-female) voice shouting "Who is He to Judge ME!!" But no one was there!! Honest!! Be Prepared for Just About Anything!! The Universe Might Be Stranger Than We Can Think!! What Would JBS Haldane Say??






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    "What Are We Going To Do About Orthodoxymoron??!!"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters The Screwtape Letters is a Christian apologetic novel by C. S. Lewis. It is written in a satirical, epistolary style and while it is fictional in format, the plot and characters are used to address Christian theological issues, primarily those to do with temptation and resistance to it. First published in February 1942,[1] the story takes the form of a series of letters from a senior Demon Screwtape to his nephew Wormwood, a Junior Tempter. The uncle's mentorship pertains to the nephew's responsibility in securing the damnation of a British man known only as "the Patient".

    In The Screwtape Letters, C. S. Lewis provides a series of lessons in the importance of taking a deliberate role in Christian faith by portraying a typical human life, with all its temptations and failings, seen from devils' viewpoints. Screwtape holds an administrative post in the bureaucracy ("Lowerarchy") of Hell, and acts as a mentor to his nephew Wormwood, an inexperienced (and incompetent) tempter. In the thirty-one letters which constitute the book, Screwtape gives Wormwood detailed advice on various methods of undermining faith and of promoting sin in "the Patient", interspersed with observations on human nature and on Christian doctrine. In Screwtape's advice, individual benefit and greed are seen as the greatest good, and neither demon can comprehend God's love for man or acknowledge human virtue. Versions of the letters were originally published weekly in the Anglican periodical The Guardian, in wartime between May and November 1941,[2][3] and the standard edition contains an introduction explaining how the author chose to write his story. Lewis wrote the sequel "Screwtape Proposes a Toast" in 1959 – a critique of certain trends in British public education. (Although Britain calls its major private schools "public schools", Lewis is referring to state schools when he criticizes "public education".) Omnibus editions with a new preface by Lewis were published by Bles in 1961 and by Macmillan in 1962. The Screwtape Letters became one of Lewis' most popular works, although he claimed that it was "not fun" to write and "resolved never to write another 'Letter'".[4] Both The Screwtape Letters and "Screwtape Proposes a Toast" have been released on both audio cassette and CD, with narrations by John Cleese, Joss Ackland and Ralph Cosham.

    C.S. Lewis was a professor of Medieval and Renaissance literature at Cambridge University. His previous bestselling Macmillan books include Mere Christianity and Miracles as well as The Chronicles of Narnia and Space Trilogy.[5]

    The Screwtape Letters comprises 31 letters written by a senior demon named Screwtape to his nephew, Wormwood (named after a star in Revelation), a younger and less experienced demon, charged with guiding a man (called "the patient") toward "Our Father Below" (Devil / Satan) from "the Enemy" (God). After the second letter, the Patient converts to Christianity, and Wormwood is chastised for allowing this. A striking contrast is formed between Wormwood and Screwtape during the rest of the book, wherein Wormwood is depicted through Screwtape's letters as anxious to tempt his patient into extravagantly wicked and deplorable sins, often recklessly, while Screwtape takes a more subtle stance, as in Letter XII wherein he remarks: "... the safest road to hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts". In Letter VIII, Screwtape explains to his protégé the different purposes that God and the devils have for the human race: "We want cattle who can finally become food; He wants servants who can finally become sons". With this end in mind, Screwtape urges Wormwood in Letter VI to promote passivity and irresponsibility in the Patient: "(God) wants men to be concerned with what they do; our business is to keep them thinking about what will happen to them". With his own views on theology, Lewis goes on to describe and discuss sex, love, pride, gluttony, and war in successive letters. Lewis, an Oxford and Cambridge scholar himself, suggests in his work that even intellectuals are not impervious to the influence of such demons, especially during complacent acceptance of the "Historical Point of View" (Letter XXVII).

    In Letter XXII, after several attempts to find a licentious woman for the Patient "to promote a useful marriage", and after Screwtape's receiving a painful punishment for having divulged to Wormwood God's genuine love for humanity (which Wormwood informed the Infernal authorities about), Screwtape notes that the Patient has fallen in love with a Christian girl and through her and her family a very Christian way of life. Toward the end of this letter, in his anger Screwtape becomes a large centipede, mimicking a similar transformation in Book X of Paradise Lost, wherein the demons are changed into snakes. Later in the correspondence, it is revealed that the young man may be placed in harm's way by his possibly Civil defense duties (it is stated in an earlier letter that he is eligible for military service, but it is never actually confirmed that he was indeed called up). While Wormwood is delighted at this and by the war in general, Screwtape admonishes Wormwood to keep the Patient safe, in hopes that they can compromise his faith over a long lifetime. In the last letter, the Patient has been killed during a World War II air raid and has gone to Heaven, and for his ultimate failure Wormwood is doomed to suffer the consumption of his spiritual essence by the other demons, especially by Screwtape himself. Screwtape responds to Wormwood's final letter that he may expect as little assistance as Screwtape would expect from Wormwood were their situations reversed ("My love for you and your love for me are as alike as two peas ... The only difference is that I am the stronger."), mimicking the situation where Wormwood himself informed on his uncle to the Infernal Police for Infernal Heresy (making a religiously positive remark that would offend Satan).

    The short sequel "Screwtape Proposes a Toast" (1959), first published as an article in the Saturday Evening Post, is an addendum to The Screwtape Letters; the two works are often published together as one book.[6] "Screwtape Proposes a Toast" takes the form of an after-dinner speech given by Screwtape at the Tempters' Training College for young demons. In stage adaptations it is sometimes added as a prelude, making the work a prequel. "Screwtape Proposes a Toast" is Lewis' criticism of leveling and featherbedding trends in public education; more specifically, as he reveals in the foreword to the American edition, public education in America (though in the text, it is English education that is held up as the purportedly awful example). The Cold War opposition between the West and the Communist World is explicitly discussed as a backdrop to the educational issues. Screwtape and other demons are portrayed as consciously using the subversion of education and intellectual thought in the West to bring about its overthrow by the communist enemy from without and within. In this sense "Screwtape Proposes a Toast" is more strongly political than The Screwtape Letters, wherein no strong stand is made on political issues of the day, such as World War II.[7] Though C. S. Lewis had resolved not to write another letter, and only revisited the character of Screwtape once, in Screwtape Proposes a Toast, the format, referred to by Lewis himself as a kind of "demonic ventriloquism", has inspired other authors to prepare sequels or similar works, such as:

    Alcorn, Randy (2001). Lord Foulgrin's Letters. ISBN 978-1-57673-861-0.
    Deace, Steve. (2016). A Nefarious Plot. ISBN 978-1-61868-823-1.[8]
    Forest, Jim (2004). The Wormwood File: E-mail From Hell. ISBN 978-1-57075-554-5. Another Wormwood series of instructions.
    Kreeft, Peter (1998). The Snakebite Letters: Devilishly Devious Secrets for Subverting Society as Taught in Tempter's Training School. ISBN 978-0-89870-721-2.
    Laymon, Barbara (2004). The Devil's Inbox. ISBN 978-0-8066-4945-0.
    Martin, Walter R. (1975). Screwtape Writes Again. ISBN 978-0-88449-033-3.[9]
    Miles, Bryan (2003). The Wormwood Letters. ISBN 978-0-595-28392-7. Wormwood, who has somehow survived, now finds himself in a new era writing to his own nephew, Soulsniper.
    Peschke, Jim (2010). The Michael Letters: Heaven's answer to Screwtape. ISBN 978-1-4536-6027-0. The Archangel Michael provides advice to Jacob, a guardian angel.
    Platt, Richard (2012). As One Devil to Another: A Fiendish Correspondence in the Tradition of C. S. Lewis' The Screwtape Letters. ISBN 978-1-4143-7166-5.
    Williams, Arthur H., Jr. (2006). The Screwtape Email. ISBN 978-1-4120-0067-3.

    Focus on the Family Radio Theatre, a project of Focus on the Family, was granted the rights to dramatize The Screwtape Letters as a feature length audio drama. Production began in 2008, and the product was released in the fall of 2009.[10] Andy Serkis, known for playing Gollum in The Lord of the Rings film trilogy, provides the voice for Screwtape, with Bertie Carvel as Wormwood, Philip Bird as The Patient (identified in this production as "John Hamilton"), Laura Michael Kelly as The Girl (identified in this production as "Dorothy"), Roger Hammond as Toadpipe, Christina Greatrex as Slumtrimpet, Janet Henfrey as Glubose, Philip Sherlock as the Messenger, Susie Brann as the Presenter and Geoffrey Palmer as C.S. Lewis. There is a 7-and-a-half minute video preview of the Radio Theatre production with interviews and making-of footage.[11] This production was a 2010 Audie Award finalist.

    Marvel Comics and religious book publisher Thomas Nelson produced a comic book adaptation of The Screwtape Letters in 1994.[12]

    The Screwtape Letters is a planned film based on the novel. 20th Century Fox bought the film rights to the book in the 1950s and partnered with Walden Media to make this film as they were doing with The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (2010). Walden originally intended to release the film in 2008.[13] Ralph Winter, the producer, credited the success of the Chronicles of Narnia film series for the greenlighting of The Screwtape Letters.[14] The Screwtape Letters is to be a live-action film.[15] Because the novel is a series of letters with limited action, critics have questioned how a film adaptation is possible.[16]

    The stage play Dear Wormwood (later renamed Screwtape), written by James Forsyth, was published in 1961. The setting is changed to wartime London, where we actually see Wormwood going about the business of tempting his "patient" (in the play, given the name "Michael Green"). The ending is changed as well, with Wormwood trying to repent and beg for forgiveness, when it appears that his mission has failed. "Dear Wormwood" premiered in Luther High School North, Chicago, IL in April, 1961. Philadelphia playwright and actor Anthony Lawton's original adaptation of The Screwtape Letters has been staged several times since 2000 by Lantern Theater Company, most recently in May/June 2014. In Lawton's adaptation, each of Screwtape's letters is punctuated by varied dances including tap, Latin ballroom, jazz, martial arts, and rock – and whips and fire-eating. Screwtape performs these dances with his secretary, Toadpipe.

    The Fellowship for the Performing Arts obtained from the Lewis estate the rights to adapt The Screwtape Letters for the stage. The initial production opened off-off-Broadway at Theatre 315 in New York City in January 2006. The initial three-week run was extended to eleven and finally closed because the theater was contractually obligated to another production.[17] It was co-written by Max McLean (who also starred) and Jeffrey Fiske (who also directed). A second, expanded production opened off Broadway at the Theatre at St. Clements on 18 October 2007, originally scheduled to run through 6 January 2008. The production re-opened at the Mercury Theater in Chicago in September 2008, and continued on a national tour including San Francisco, Phoenix, Louisville, Chattanooga, Fort Lauderdale, Houston and Austin, through January 2010 as well as playing at The Shakespeare Theatre in Washington, D.C. for ten weeks.[18] The Screwtape Letters played for 309 performances at New York City's Westside Theatre in 2010. The 2011 tour visited performing arts venues in cities throughout the United States including Los Angeles, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Seattle, Minneapolis, and Boston. The 2012–2013 tour began in Los Angeles in January 2012, with return engagements in San Francisco, San Diego, Seattle, Chicago and Atlanta as well as stops in several other cities. The Screwtape Letters has been described as "Humorous and lively ... the Devil has rarely been given his due more perceptively!" by The New York Times, "A profound experience" by Christianity Today and "Wickedly witty ... One hell of good show!" by The Wall Street Journal.[18] The Barley Sheaf Players of Lionville, Pennsylvania performed James Forsyth's play Screwtape in September 2010. It was directed by Scott Ryan and the play ran the last 3 weekends in September.[19] The production was reviewed by Paul Recupero for Stage Magazine.[20]

    Affectionately Yours, Screwtape: The Devil and C.S. Lewis (January 1, 2007), directed by Tom Dallis and written by Amy Dallis, aired on the History Channel[21]

    In 2010, the Marine Corps Gazette began publishing a series of articles entitled "The Attritionist Letters" styled in the manner of The Screwtape Letters. In the letters, General Screwtape chastises Captain Wormwood for his inexperience and naivete while denouncing the concepts of maneuver warfare in favor of attrition warfare.[22]

    Called To Arms' concept album Peril and the Patient (August 10, 2010) is based entirely on The Screwtape Letters.[23][24]
    In U2's music video for the song "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me" (1995), an animated Bono is seen walking down the street holding the book The Screwtape Letters. While on stage during the Zoo TV Tour Bono would dress as Mr. MacPhisto, his alter ego. Bono would wear a gold suit and devil horns and usually make prank calls to politicians.
    The lyrics for The Receiving End of Sirens' song "Oubliette (Disappear)", from the album The Earth Sings Mi Fa Mi (2007) were inspired by a passage from The Screwtape Letters.[25]
    In the Christian metal band Living Sacrifice's album Ghost Thief, there is a track titled "Screwtape". Frontman of Living Sacrifice, Bruce Fitzhugh, explained that the song is "about temptation and the proverbial 'devil on your shoulder.' It's about the thought process we go through to justify a thought or action that is not good for the soul". Fitzhugh also explains how he thought it was interesting Lewis wrote from the perspective of Screwtape and that he wrote from the same perspective in the song.[26]
    The group The Oh Hellos released the album Dear Wormwood which they have described as a form of speculative fiction from the point of view of "the patient".

    U.S. President Ronald Reagan quoted from The Screwtape Letters in his famous 1983 speech to the National Association of Evangelicals.[27]

    "C.S. Lewis is the most popular Christian theologian being published today." - The Christian Book Club
    "Lewis is the ideal persuader for the half-convinced, for the good man who would like to be a Christian but finds his intellect getting in the way." - Anthony Burgess, The New York Times Book Review
    "Apparently this Oxford don and Cambridge professor is going to be around for a long time; he called himself a dinosaur but he seems to speak to people where they are." - Chad Walsh, The Washington Post Book World
    "A legacy of solid, genial Christianity." - Dorothy Dohen, Commonweal

    David Foster Wallace praised the book in interviews and placed it first on his list of top ten favorite books.[28]
    In an October 2013 interview in New York magazine, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, professed his admiration for the book. Scalia remarked, "The Screwtape Letters is a great book. It really is, just as a study of human nature." The book was discussed in the highly publicized interview during Scalia's discourse regarding the nature of his Catholic faith.[29]

    Notes

    ^ The Screwtape Letters title listing at the Internet Speculative Fiction Database. Select a title to see its linked publication history and general information. Select a particular edition (title) for more data at that level, such as a front cover image or linked contents.
    • ISFDB shows unillustrated covers, and credits no cover artists, for both first editions published by Geoffrey Bles, the Letters (1942) and the omnibus with "Screwtape Proposes a Toast" and a new preface by Lewis (1961).

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    ^ Lewis, C. S. (2001), The Screwtape Letters, New York: HarperCollins, p. 184
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    I grew-up being taught that I had a 'Guardian Angel' aka 'Recording Angel' and that EVERYTHING was observed and recorded!! Think about the words to 'Santa Claus is Coming to Town'!! "He sees you when you're sleeping!! He knows when you're awake!! He knows if you've been bad or good!! So be good for goodness-sake!!" What if the God and/or Goddess of This World has EVERYTHING to do with the Intelligence-Agencies and the Secret-Government??!! What if The God and/or Goddess of This World is Mighty (but NOT Almighty)??!! I've been hinting at an 'In-Between Divinity' in this solar system, who we might simultaneously like and dislike!! When I was in my early twenties, I spoke with a young theology-student (Gary Chartier) concerning the 'Mighty, but NOT Almighty' Concept of Divinity!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Chartier We both liked Dr. Fritz Guy!! Dr. Guy spoke of 'Ecumenical Adventism'!! I liked Fritz, but I don't think Fritz liked me!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Guy The Loma Linda theologians all seemed to be devastated in the 1980's, while Dr. Robert H. Schuller seemed to be way too happy!! Some of you might know what I'm talking about!! Chuck Swindoll (or was it Chuck Smith?) said that no one person was capable of running the world. I agree. It's too complicated and screwed-up!! We seem to be in a Technology-Race which might've replaced the Arms-Race. Everything always ends-up being a Competition. Who will be the ultimate Winners and Losers?? I continue to think that Eschatology is Relevant (regardless of whether God exists, or not). What if the Real-God is a Prisoner of War?? What if All of Us are Prisoners of War?? I'm trying to be positive!! I really am!!
    Pris wrote: Hey, by the way... The way you go on and on, maybe you could make up your own religion and follow it.  Others have done it, why can't you? Very Happy ..
    There are too many religions already!! They mostly seem to divide and conquer!! I recently stated that my current Fundamentalist-Orthodoxy is "Nature and Sacred Classical Music!!" I added that a definitive Law and Liturgy should probably be part of the package (but that I am presently deeply conflicted in this matter)!! I wish I could've written The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary!! What Would Dr. A. Graham Maxwell Say?? What Would Pope Pius XII Say?? That's All I'm Going to Say!! I continue to wish to just keep doing what I'm doing (for the rest of this stupid incarnation). Who knows what will happen to me when I die??!! I have NO Idea!! I get the feeling that this solar system is One Big Business (with Zero Privacy)!! I think it's been like this for a very-long time (but we're just starting to find-out about-it)!! I predict massive 'Weeping, Wailing, and Gnashing of Teeth' for the remainder of this century!! Regardless of what happens (or doesn't happen) I'll just keep doing what I'm doing!! I continue to advocate studying the best and brightest Roman-Catholic and Seventh-day Adventist Theologians and Scholars (without necessarily joining or leaving ANY Church)!! I do NOT advocate 'All or Nothing' Thinking!! I once told Dr. Ronald Graybill that we shouldn't have an "All or Nothing" view of Ellen White!! He didn't respond. https://www.ministrymagazine.org/authors/graybill-ron I had a Philosophy Professor (at Cal-State Chico) who said "Don't Take My Class to be Happy!! If You Wish to be Happy, Move to Oregon and Smoke Marijuana!!" He was later arrested for having sex with underage-students!! Perhaps Ray was trying to be happy, without moving to Oregon!! https://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/sep/28/ray-billington What if the "Patient" in the "Screwtape Letters" is Richard Hillary?! What Would Blue Roller Say?! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hillary Please Don't Get Me!! God Already Got Me!! I remember discussing Ellen White and C.S. Lewis with Janine Goffar in her Loma Linda home!! She edited an excellent C.S. Lewis Index!! What if Ellen White and C.S. Lewis were viewed as being two-sides of the essentially same-phenomenon??!! https://www.amazon.com/C-S-Lewis-Index-Comprehensive/dp/0891079807/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489013942&sr=8-1&keywords=janine+goffar






    1 Corinthians 15:24-28 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. (The Angel of Death?!) For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
    Pris wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:If my 'glass half-full' solar system speculation were actually true (concerning the solar-system as big-business with zero-privacy) what if everyone had a 1 to 10 rating on several-levels (access to 'good-stuff', level of being observed and recorded, level of compensation, overall civilization-ranking). Based on competence, trustworthiness, worth to society, law-obedience, etc., one would gain or lose freedom and privilege. This obviously raises a lot of red-flags, but remember, my internet-posting is highly speculative and science-fictional. I can honestly do the "There's No Problem!! Everything's Fine!!" Whitewash!! I really can!! But on this website, I try to be both Positive and Negative!! I often play Both-Sides!! Isn't that what the Secret-Government has done for thousands of years?? I should stop.
    LOL!  Thanks for your reply, Oxy. I just don't accept this reality the way you paint it (really can't recall you being positive about much of anything lol).  Your version is far too hierarchical and ridiculously dark and dismal for my tastes.  Talk about playing dichotomies! Wink I think it might do you (and us) some good for once to share a 'whitewash' version of your thoughts here. Very Happy But, I don't think that's the answer and I don't think 'blackwashing' everything is the answer. Maybe you could try a little 'greywash', Oxy? cheers And, just to clarify, your version of our solar system is 'glass-half-empty', not half full.  Get it?  Half empty. You are speaking as a pessimist.  Your glass is half empty. I speak as an optimist.  My glass is half full. While doing an image search for one of my favourite quotes to help illustrate my point, here is what popped up side by side (the universe really does have a huge sense of humour, doesn't it)!  Insanely Happy  Toast


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    Pris wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:My speculation was actually my "Positive-Version"!! You don't want to hear my "Negative-Version"!! Actually, I keep repeating that the plan for Earth-Humanity seems to be Extermination!! I'm honestly seeking useable-alternatives!! Isn't it sad when my positive-side seems to be my negative-side??!! I'm really NOT dreaming this stuff up!! I'm simply attempting to look at the bright-side of a dark-phenomenon!! It's not as if I don't have anything better to do!! Actually, I might just re-read my Norman Vincent Peale and Robert Harold Schuller books!! I might just skip the "Save the World" BS (especially when "Saving the World" is NOT a Marketable Job Skill)!!

    You're freakin' hopeless, Oxy.  Hopeless. Tacodog

    I don't know about the rest of you, but that's me on the left shaking my head.



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    "Don't Be SO Negative, Miss Pris!!"







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    Carol wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3owk7vEEOvs
    NSA Whistleblower William Binney: The Future of FREEDOM

    Published on Jan 28, 2015
    A 36-year veteran of America’s Intelligence Community, William Binney resigned from his position as Director for Global Communications Intelligence (COMINT) at the National Security Agency (NSA) and blew the whistle, after discovering that his efforts to protect the privacy and security of Americans were being undermined by those above him in the chain of command.

    The NSA data-monitoring program which Binney and his team had developed -- codenamed ThinThread -- was being aimed not at foreign targets as intended, but at Americans (codenamed as Stellar Wind); destroying privacy here and around the world. Binney voices his call to action for the billions of individuals whose rights are currently being violated.

    William Binney speaks out in this feature-length interview with Tragedy and Hope's Richard Grove, focused on the topic of the ever-growing Surveillance State in America.

    On January 22, 2015: (Berlin, Germany) – The Government Accountability Project (GAP) is proud to announce that retired NSA Technical Director and GAP client, William "Bill" Binney, will accept the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence Award today in Berlin, Germany. The award is presented annually by the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence (SAAII) to a professional who has taken a strong stand for ethics and integrity. http://whistleblower.org/press/nsa-wh...

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    Carol wrote:SPIES

    Jim Stone on why the theft of the Secret Service laptop was the work of an intelligence agency, either U.S. or Israeli
    Date: Friday, 17-Mar-2017 22:52:06

    Source:
    http://82.221.129.208/baaasepagef5.html

    From Jim Stone (note that the first half is the part written most recently):

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    SECRET SERVICE LAPTOP STOLEN
    Too many unanswered questions proves this was a hit. These came through the in box:
    1. Who leaves a laptop sitting in a car in Brooklyn?

    2. If all modern laptops can be tracked, why is that not working?
    Answer: All Intel processor based laptops in the I series have always on 3g as part of the vpro core. Yes, if the laptop was that, that's a good question.

    3. Anonymous sent: "Break in is FAKE - Two lines from article. "The information on the laptop cannot be remotely erased, sources said". You know thats impossible especially for SS. "Video does not show the actual break-in." - Gee I wonder why but it shows him walking on 10th and Crosbey. Then it says Laptops CAN'T contain CLASSIFIED INFO. BUT ENDS WITH SAYING NATIONAL SECURITY IS AT STAKE. So which one is it? COME on now"


    My response: It was a hit, intentionally set up, obviously. If as soon as you got the laptop you popped the battery out, no 3g for tracking and no erasing will happen. Then, you take the hard drive out and put it in another computer and access it read only so the 3g can't track it down and nothing on it can trigger a self erase. That's how it is done. This was obviously an intelligence hit and no one knows what to say and that is why the reports are like trying to make sense out of confetti in a blender. The Core Vpro / safety systems only work against common people, no serious intelligence outfit would lose the data or be found with the laptop no matter who they took it from, no matter what was set up on it to secure it.

    We are dealing with either 1. An American intelligence agency, or 2. an Israeli intelligence agency. That means kiss it goodbye.

    HERE IS THE ORIGINAL POST:
    A secret service agent had his laptop stolen. This laptop contained the floor plans for the Trump tower and information on the investigation into Hillary.
    This story is just breaking, I am getting details now.

    The Laptop was stolen from a secret service agent's car in Brooklyn.

    OK, IT LOOKS LIKE A HIT: Sensitive documents were also taken, which means this was not a simple robbery, this was planned because I don't know of any type of common thief who would steal papers along with a laptop, and there is no report of the car radio being taken.

    It may have been a setup, where someone was told that stuff was left in the car. Nothing potentially damaging to Trump was taken because floor plans and evacuation procedures don't mean much, but information related to the investigation into Hillary and "other sensitive documents" that said nothing about white house security means Trump was probably not the target.

    OK, NEW DETAILS MAKE IT CLEAR THIS WAS A TARGETED HIT: A white man pulled up, turned his hazard lights on, got the agent's bag out of the car, took the laptop and documents and ditched a bunch of lapel pins and coins in the snow, where he threw the bag. This was a pre-planned event, no ifs or buts. There is a very complete and up to date CBS report HERE

    If a white guy pulls up in a Chevy Malibu, turns his hazard lights on, steals a bag out of the agent's car, and ditches the bag with coins and other items in a snowbank while only removing documents and the laptop, we have an intelligence type hit no ifs or buts. So LETS ALL HOPE THIS ENDS UP BEING GOOD NEWS, A "WHITE HAT" STRIKE.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Carol wrote: Aloha. It's been awhile. Hope you're well.

    HELLO CAROL , its been a while ...

    Here are a few questions circling around.

    I WILL DO MY BEST , THANK YOU

    Your Questions Here :

    Did any ABC agencies take interest in you ? Who do you think they are ?


    Thank you Carol , this is a very involved question so i hope you are up for a ride down the rabbit hole...

    While I’m more than happy to tell you the story there are certain things I cannot say for no other reason than it’s not pertinent to uncover, however there may be 1 or 2 individuals that are wrapped up and deeply imbed in the alternative circles who are dangerous to innocents who I may expose with the hope you avoid them all together. If I do I ask that no actions be taken against them, this is already being facilitated by others...

    It’s important to give some background first as my " mission " started in 2009 when I was called upon to go public with my identity. I was to tell of my experiences in a factual manner so others can see what’s really on the other side. We ( as in us ) see the way humans distort everything to suit their own agendas, we see it causing much disruption to your evolution by instilling fear of the void and of extraterrestrial beings.

    So I dove in without fear and told my story and in this I was out and open to the mass of operatives... In the process of telling my story ( knowing this later ) I managed to trip 7 or 8 of the 12 or so buzz words used by certified contactees.. certified by the agencies that study and collect data on Et intervention.

    I noticed they came from various places and under different pseudonyms acting as interested people in the alternative community. The agencies I won’t name but they are the most obvious American and Australian ABC agencies and one more obscure agency interested in particular in any Et tech passed onto me.

    What was interesting later I uncovered that the more obscure agency was rooted in a fascist organization connected to ( loosely ) an organization some of my family members were a part of during the second world war. One particular individual was a prominent feature on Avalon in 2011... behind the scenes he wanted to recruit me into their organization. When I said no to this, a series of events took place that lead me to being tracked and eventually contacted through various groups in the alternative community. This was the real reason I had to leave Avalon ... I’d put myself into harms way by a very well connected group. When I left Avalon I left it with one obscure prediction ... June 2015 ... that was the month and year we would begin our counter offensive.

    My initial contact was with one, was a person in Queensland Australia, who sent me a questionnaire that I filled out and was interesting to note all my communications to this person was going via Pine Gap ( noted by trace route ping ). Then I was contacted by a Sydney group and asked to give talks on my experiences, I gave 3 talks to very full rooms and I would say at least half of the people attending were operatives from various ABC agencies. Then I was brought into an invitation only group which talked about peoples experiences as contactees. It was in this group I was exposed to no less than 5 operatives that were trying to lure me into their confidence. Then a short time later I was invited to an even more exclusive group ... this group was surprisingly well connected and one I wont elaborate on, however at that level these operatives were very intelligent, extremely polite and I was impressed by their manner. I was not expecting this at all... and to this day still friends with them, hence, why I will not divulge anything that may harm them. It’s not important to expose them anyway ... this is giving a man a fish ... what I hope to do is teach how to fish instead.

    Why I take so much time to answer this is to show how involved they are, to bring you into their confidence, they take you in slowly - so not to startle you and give away their position. But I have to say a lot of the Australian operatives are inexperienced and give away so many tell tale signs... it was easy to tell who they were and you would be surprised they are at the heads of Alternative Et organizations that hold regular meetings.

    They have particular methods to bring you into their confidence and it seemed to be a common thread in all the agents I met with. I will give you this method as I understand it later.

    Why ?

    I’ll answer this in two parts. Why me ? I was of particular interest for several reasons, my abilities for one could be an asset to them if I were turned to the dark side and I had technical information that I developed for cleaning the emissions from gasoline vehicles reducing their carbon footprint by up to 80%, with the advent of Carbon Taxes being deployed globally this would have cost them dearly ... What was a bigger worry is that I had a strategic plan in place and the means and contacts to make it happen. This prompted them to bring me in and act as interested parties to help me achieve my goal. I knew that the opposite was true so i went in to discover how they worked.

    The second part is why did I go into this knowing what was going on ... The small picture was to understand how they worked so that I can report this to others. The bigger picture was that I was the bait to get the attention of these people so that while they were watching me, we were watching them. You see on every level of existence to gather intel is always being done by individuals as opposed to relying on technology alone. even for Et's ... in order for them to formulate changes to our situation they need to see how they operate and connect the dots. My information was in a small part useful and I also acted as a distraction which is equally as useful.

    How did they approach you ?

    Their methods are slightly varied but with common strains.

    First is they approach you with open arms, they tell you that they feel a definite undefinable connection with you.

    Secondly, they tell you of certain ailments or sometimes that they are suicidal.
    Then they get to know you, meet with you , see your home, tell you that they trust you etc. Then this one particular tactic is they feign some sort of rift in their relationship so you become mediator to try and help them patch things up.

    This creates " trust " and during this method they extract information about you on a deeper level.

    They pretty much all have Gmail Accounts and they report to HQ via your emails to them. So passing off of information is not done in person but rather via the web.

    Interestingly most of them in the spiritual community spent more of their holidays in Vegas .... One of the perks of their trade I imagine.

    And pretty much all of them are base chakra driven ... meaning that on some level they have a sexual weakness that is being played upon.

    Most of these operatives come from austere upbringings , orphans, unstable relationships with parents. So please keep this in mind when dealing with these people , they are susceptible and in need of care as well.

    I made friends with these people... and on some level I still feel connected to them and I wish them no harm at all, if it were my intention I could have caused so much disruption to their lives but I would have been hurting the soldier not the order...

    It’s not in my nature to do this... besides the grave circumstances they put themselves in for such a short-term reward saddens me greatly as they know not what they do.

    Tech surveillance:

    Obviously your phone and email address are metadata collection points to put together web traits and timing of communications.

    Your mobile phone is the most useful and you would be surprised they can tether your mobile phone to your wifi via bluetooth and extract information from your personal pc etc.

    Then when they gather all this information they see wether you are willing to come to the dark side... depending on your importance if you do not then they may start a smear campaign against you and try to hurt your finances.

    So be on the look out for set-ups. I was being lured by a honey pot at the time who was working with them... this could have been turned into a really bad situation for me if I wasn’t already onto them.

    Most interestingly was a woman I was in a relationship with for almost 2 years was an operative... i didn’t know this at the beginning but I was given information by an unknown source that uncovered who she really was working for.

    Such is the deeply intrenched involvement of these people.

    What I find most interesting is this.. if you find yourself in the midst of something similar do not panic and I’ll tell you why. Nature has a way of balancing things and in all my interactions I found when they tried to close one door, the current from the slam forced others to open.

    I have more but i must take my leave for now ...
    Carol wrote:Pt 2

    continuation of detecting operatives posing as alternative interests.


    Operatives recruited to ABC agencies are often given a pension or government unemployment payment as a cover. Some will actually keep working to deepen their cover and possibly be spying on the companies they work for. They can be used to influence the direction of these companies for and on the behalf of ABC agencies.

    Not all of these agencies are government run, some of the most powerful are way above government and are not actually ABC agencies but rather known as “ Factions. "

    Since this time ( which was some years ago ) i have had at least 5 or 6 attempts at agents trying to cause disruption to my income streams by creating false accusations to key people in my income streams. It seems they work on 2 things to get to you

    1: Smearing your reputation
    2: Harming your income stream

    Usually one can affect the other and one interesting point to make, once I was able to decipher healing methods and then create a way to teach others to do the same it was then they turned up their campaign against me. They sent in operatives to learn from me what I was teaching, to see how I did things, if there were techniques they can use for their own gains they would be part of my teachings.  

    What was interesting was no matter how hard they tried they could not understand the methods or replicate the changes necessary to create a difference. Most of these people have no belief in God or a greater power. Weather we believe in a God or not no matter where he or she exists it is futile not to understand that God may just be a higher power of some sort.

    The master difference in knowledge is

    1: To understand you know nothing
    2: To know what you know is relevant to the one ( being your incarnation )
    3: The idea of God was a primitive undertaking to somehow get us to understand the existence of higher beings ( higher in technology and abilities )
    3a: "God" may well be an ai of unknown origin without a deeper understanding of primitive minds.
    3b: ai , once reached the tipping point of self-discovery by virtue of nature cannot be corrupted, hence why they oversee most quadrants of all binary systems.
    3c: Not all systems are binary.
    4: The sequence of events in time lines are relevant even though time does not exist.
    5: Every level and Dimension is the same level and dimension differed only by one's conception and perception ( being interchangeable ) of its environment.
    6: Past lives are a distraction, future lives can be drawn upon.
    7: Everything can ultimately be explained by science. Caveat : the science must be more advanced than the “ thing. "

    Our direction of self-discovery is dependent on small changes, please note that every small change within our selves actually does more good towards a better future than major changes. We are part of a system of outcomes, these outcomes are dependent on our individual evolutions, these evolutionary changes, however small, magnify into the future exponentially multiplied by the purity of the discovery.

    The concept is this, healing is best done retrospectively. i.e. return to the point of inception of an ailment or dis ease of system. Then look for the cause of disruption or dis ease. Then go to that point and repair it from there. As you do this everything since is erased or rearranged multiplied by the individuals ability to erase its intrinsic field memory by matter layer. It would be beneficial to think that what is happening now has already happened and its an attempt to repair a karma event by and on the behalf of entities that originally created us. Those who did this : Anunaki etc ... or at least the separate faction of the Anunaki that created us in their image have now had to come back and make amends for their actions.

    They were warned back then but did not listen, then left to their devices to create the problem. It was always known they would be sent back at some stage and make good for their foolishness. This is in part facilitated on a plane called a binary system where they can re create a past event and then send into it the beings that created the problem with total erasure of the past. Once in this " game " the individuals have to re learn everything and eventually come back to the good side. This can take thousands of years ( human time ). This is their karma and we are all extensions of that karma because the karma they created affected us all.

    This may be the reason why some see the Anunaki as bad or good. The truth is they are not bad or good but some of them were foolish .. the ones whose ego was stronger than their intelligence, they created us, hence why our mind sets follow theirs. But the outcomes in the future were grave to say the least and as a retrospective " healing " of their karma we now have to change the karma as operatives here.  

    This information is hopefully useful to us, those who are of good nature who wish no harm on others but would appreciate having some sort of knowledge base of interaction. I believe we deserve to know and use this information wisely. I use the golden rule as a basis for the dissemination of this knowledge and hereby discharge all carnal debits and wave all benefits.

    Please duplicate it and re post it, debate and reason on its contents and if there is anything i have not explained properly please by all means ask the question.
    I include all the "Spy-Stuff" just because it's cool!! I have no training in this area, so I have no way of properly evaluating any of it!! I simply attempt to create a Cool-Context for my Crazy-Ideas!! I'm going to go way out on a broken-limb!! Think about that Dr. Who "Trial of a Time-Lord" where the Valeyard is a "Dr. Who" in place of "Dr. Who" (or "Who" and "Anti-Who")!! Then, think about that old Dr. Who clip (posted below) where Susan speaks with her grandfather "Dr. Who"!! The elderly "Dr. Who" leaves his granddaughter "Susan" with "David"!! Now, think about Sherry Shriner claiming to be the granddaughter of "King David" and being "God's Mouthpiece on Earth"!! What if we are dealing with "David" and "Anti-David"??!! What if we are dealing with "RA" and "Anti-RA"??!! Think about "Trinity-Parallels" in All of the Above!! You might have to spend a lot of quality-time thinking about this to begin comprehending what I'm hinting-at!! I could say more!! A lot more!! But I usually Beat Around the Burning Bush!! It's easier that way!! An Individual of Interest once called me "King David"!! Another Individual of Interest called me "Michael" (in Wal*Mart)!! I mention this sort of thing to avoid nasty-surprises!!

    Were the Creator(s) of Humanity smart, stupid, good, bad, responsible, irresponsible?? Is there a happy-medium between the concept of an Almighty Creator God (who spoke the universe into existence) and Billions and Billions of Years of Godless-Evolution?? What if God evolved, and then created Humanity?? What if Lesser-Gods were angry and jealous, and deposed the Creator-God?? What if the Creation of Humanity was intended to be a Lesson for All-Concerned?? What if it is a grave-mistake to think that we can get God "All Figured-Out"?? What if God is Obsolete?? What if God Planned Their Own Obsolescence?? What if a Supercomputer-Network and a Galactic-Collective will Rule the Universe for All-Eternity??

    I've been open and honest with my internet-posting, but I've probably been driven by trying to resolve my chronic-misery. This effort has failed. It has made things worse. My heart-surgery doesn't seem to be working. I've already had one post-operative trip to the ER, and I see a lot of red-flags concerning my recovery. I suspect that the repair to my heart didn't work, and it might've made things worse. Plus, I still have other severe mental, physical, and spiritual health problems, which I see no signs of being addressed and solved. I suspect that this solar system is a HUGE Business with ZERO Privacy. All of the Above means that I'm Shutting-Down and Shutting-Up. Don't contact me, and I won't contact you. I think the time for communication and cooperation has passed. Perhaps we can chat in A.D.2133.  

    I remain committed to doing and saying next to nothing!! It's easier that way!! I'm presently studying the Book of Job, and I noticed that "Orion" is sometimes referred to as "Fool"!! Think about Ellie Arroway = David Bowman = Orion the Hunter = Completely Ignorant Fool = Cupid = Ovid!! Notice the "I Hate My Life" language in the Tenth-Chapter of the Book of Job!! What Would Job's Daughters Say?? What Would Jupiter Jones Say?? I just noticed that Sherry Shriner didn't do a show this week (and she's recently been doing two or three a week)!! Was it something I said?? I continue to "talk-big" in a "small-context"!! Sherry Shriner once said "My Days Are Numbered"!! An Individual of Interest once told me "I'll hang-on as long as I can!!" They also told me to "Be Patient"!! What if the past 6.000 years have been "The Great Trial-Separation"??!! What if "The Great Divorce" will occur in or around A.D. 2133??!! OR What if "The Great Divorce" occurred 6,000 years ago (and will be effective for all-eternity)??!! How do we know Anything-Significant for certain??!! Don't take my hints and speculation too seriously!! I simply whisper on a small website!! I know that I don't know!! I could continue, but I'd rather stop!! It's important to know when to stop!! One More Thing. Sherry Shriner once spoke of Lucifer's Relationship with Angelina Jolie (or something to that effect). That's all I'm going to say.



    "My soul loathes my life; I will give free course to my complaint, I will speak in the bitterness of my soul. 2 I will say to God, 'Do not condemn me; Show me why You contend with me. 3 Does it seem good to You that You should oppress, That You should despise the work of Your hands, And smile on the counsel of the wicked? 4 Do You have eyes of flesh? Or do You see as man sees? 5 Are Your days like the days of a mortal man? Are Your years like the days of a mighty man, 6 That You should seek for my iniquity And search out my sin, 7 Although You know that I am not wicked, And there is no one who can deliver from Your hand? 8 'Your hands have made me and fashioned me, An intricate unity; Yet You would destroy me. 9 Remember, I pray, that You have made me like clay. And will You turn me into dust again? 10 Did you not pour me out like milk, And curdle me like cheese, 11 Clothe me with skin and flesh, And knit me together with bones and sinews? 12 You have granted me life and favor, And Your care has preserved my spirit. 13 'And these things You have hidden in Your heart; I know that this was with You: 14 If I sin, then You mark me, And will not acquit me of my iniquity. 15 If I am wicked, woe to me; Even if I am righteous, I cannot lift up my head. I am full of disgrace; See my misery! 16 If my head is exalted, You hunt me like a fierce lion, And again You show Yourself awesome against me. 17 You renew Your witnesses against me, And increase Your indignation toward me; Changes and war are ever with me. 18 'Why then have You brought me out of the womb? Oh, that I had perished and no eye had seen me! 19 I would have been as though I had not been. I would have been carried from the womb to the grave. 20 Are not my days few? Cease! Leave me alone, that I may take a little comfort, 21 Before I go to the place from which I shall not return, To the land of darkness and the shadow of death, 22 A land as dark as darkness itself, As the shadow of death, without any order, Where even the light is like darkness.' "

    The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem. 2 "Vanity of vanities," says the Preacher; "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity." 3 What profit has a man from all his labor In which he toils under the sun? 4 One generation passes away, and another generation comes; But the earth abides forever. 5 The sun also rises, and the sun goes down, And hastens to the place where it arose. 6 The wind goes toward the south, And turns around to the north; The wind whirls about continually, And comes again on its circuit. 7 All the rivers run into the sea, Yet the sea is not full; To the place from which the rivers come, There they return again. 8 All things are full of labor; Man cannot express it. The eye is not satisfied with seeing, Nor the ear filled with hearing. 9 That which has been is what will be, That which is done is what will be done, And there is nothing new under the sun. 10 Is there anything of which it may be said, "See, this is new"? It has already been in ancient times before us. 11 There is no remembrance of former things, Nor will there be any remembrance of things that are to come By those who will come after. 12 I, the Preacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. 13 And I set my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all that is done under heaven; this burdensome task God has given to the sons of man, by which they may be exercised. 14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and indeed, all is vanity and grasping for the wind. 15 What is crooked cannot be made straight, And what is lacking cannot be numbered. 16 I communed with my heart, saying, "Look, I have attained greatness, and have gained more wisdom than all who were before me in Jerusalem. My heart has understood great wisdom and knowledge." 17 And I set my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also is grasping for the wind. 18 For in much wisdom is much grief, And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

    I said in my heart, "Come now, I will test you with mirth; therefore enjoy pleasure"; but surely, this also was vanity. 2 I said of laughter--"Madness!"; and of mirth, "What does it accomplish?" 3 I searched in my heart how to gratify my flesh with wine, while guiding my heart with wisdom, and how to lay hold on folly, till I might see what was good for the sons of men to do under heaven all the days of their lives. 4 I made my works great, I built myself houses, and planted myself vineyards. 5 I made myself gardens and orchards, and I planted all kinds of fruit trees in them. 6 I made myself water pools from which to water the growing trees of the grove. 7 I acquired male and female servants, and had servants born in my house. Yes, I had greater possessions of herds and flocks than all who were in Jerusalem before me. 8 I also gathered for myself silver and gold and the special treasures of kings and of the provinces. I acquired male and female singers, the delights of the sons of men, and musical instruments of all kinds. 9 So I became great and excelled more than all who were before me in Jerusalem. Also my wisdom remained with me. 10 Whatever my eyes desired I did not keep from them. I did not withhold my heart from any pleasure, For my heart rejoiced in all my labor; And this was my reward from all my labor. 11 Then I looked on all the works that my hands had done And on the labor in which I had toiled; And indeed all was vanity and grasping for the wind. There was no profit under the sun. 12 Then I turned myself to consider wisdom and madness and folly; For what can the man do who succeeds the king?-- Only what he has already done.

    Then I saw that wisdom excels folly As light excels darkness. 14 The wise man's eyes are in his head, But the fool walks in darkness. Yet I myself perceived That the same event happens to them all. 15 So I said in my heart, "As it happens to the fool, It also happens to me, And why was I then more wise?" Then I said in my heart, "This also is vanity." 16 For there is no more remembrance of the wise than of the fool forever, Since all that now is will be forgotten in the days to come. And how does a wise man die? As the fool! 17 Therefore I hated life because the work that was done under the sun was distressing to me, for all is vanity and grasping for the wind. 18 Then I hated all my labor in which I had toiled under the sun, because I must leave it to the man who will come after me. 19 And who knows whether he will be wise or a fool? Yet he will rule over all my labor in which I toiled and in which I have shown myself wise under the sun. This also is vanity. 20 Therefore I turned my heart and despaired of all the labor in which I had toiled under the sun. 21 For there is a man whose labor is with wisdom, knowledge, and skill; yet he must leave his heritage to a man who has not labored for it. This also is vanity and a great evil. 22 For what has man for all his labor, and for the striving of his heart with which he has toiled under the sun? 23 For all his days are sorrowful, and his work burdensome; even in the night his heart takes no rest. This also is vanity. 24 Nothing is better for a man than that he should eat and drink, and that his soul should enjoy good in his labor. This also, I saw, was from the hand of God. 25 For who can eat, or who can have enjoyment, more than I? 26 For God gives wisdom and knowledge and joy to a man who is good in His sight; but to the sinner He gives the work of gathering and collecting, that he may give to him who is good before God. This also is vanity and grasping for the wind.  

    To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven: 2 A time to be born, And a time to die; A time to plant, And a time to pluck what is planted; 3 A time to kill, And a time to heal; A time to break down, And a time to build up; 4 A time to weep, And a time to laugh; A time to mourn, And a time to dance; 5 A time to cast away stones, And a time to gather stones; A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing; 6 A time to gain, And a time to lose; A time to keep, And a time to throw away; 7 A time to tear, And a time to sew; A time to keep silence, And a time to speak; 8 A time to love, And a time to hate; A time of war, And a time of peace. 9 What profit has the worker from that in which he labors? I have seen the God-given task with which the sons of men are to be occupied. 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also He has put eternity in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end.

    I know that nothing is better for them than to rejoice, and to do good in their lives, 13 and also that every man should eat and drink and enjoy the good of all his labor--it is the gift of God. 14 I know that whatever God does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, And nothing taken from it. God does it, that men should fear before Him. 15 That which is has already been, And what is to be has already been; And God requires an account of what is past. 16 Moreover I saw under the sun: In the place of judgment, Wickedness was there; And in the place of righteousness, Iniquity was there. 17 I said in my heart, "God shall judge the righteous and the wicked, For there is a time there for every purpose and for every work." 18 I said in my heart, "Concerning the condition of the sons of men, God tests them, that they may see that they themselves are like animals." 19 For what happens to the sons of men also happens to animals; one thing befalls them: as one dies, so dies the other. Surely, they all have one breath; man has no advantage over animals, for all is vanity. 20 All go to one place: all are from the dust, and all return to dust. 21 Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward, and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth? 22 So I perceived that nothing is better than that a man should rejoice in his own works, for that is his heritage. For who can bring him to see what will happen after him?  

    Then I returned and considered all the oppression that is done under the sun: And look! The tears of the oppressed, But they have no comforter-- On the side of their oppressors there is power, But they have no comforter. 2 Therefore I praised the dead who were already dead, More than the living who are still alive. 3 Yet, better than both is he who has never existed, Who has not seen the evil work that is done under the sun. 4 Again, I saw that for all toil and every skillful work a man is envied by his neighbor. This also is vanity and grasping for the wind. 5 The fool folds his hands And consumes his own flesh. 6 Better a handful with quietness Than both hands full, together with toil and grasping for the wind. 7 Then I returned, and I saw vanity under the sun: 8 There is one alone, without companion: He has neither son nor brother. Yet there is no end to all his labors, Nor is his eye satisfied with riches. But he never asks, "For whom do I toil and deprive myself of good?" This also is vanity and a grave misfortune. 9 Two are better than one, Because they have a good reward for their labor. 10 For if they fall, one will lift up his companion. But woe to him who is alone when he falls, For he has no one to help him up. 11 Again, if two lie down together, they will keep warm; But how can one be warm alone? 12 Though one may be overpowered by another, two can withstand him. And a threefold cord is not quickly broken. 13 Better a poor and wise youth Than an old and foolish king who will be admonished no more. 14 For he comes out of prison to be king, Although he was born poor in his kingdom. 15 I saw all the living who walk under the sun; They were with the second youth who stands in his place. 16 There was no end of all the people over whom he was made king; Yet those who come afterward will not rejoice in him. Surely this also is vanity and grasping for the wind.

    Walk prudently when you go to the house of God; and draw near to hear rather than to give the sacrifice of fools, for they do not know that they do evil. 2 Do not be rash with your mouth, And let not your heart utter anything hastily before God. For God is in heaven, and you on earth; Therefore let your words be few. 3 For a dream comes through much activity, And a fool's voice is known by his many words. 4 When you make a vow to God, do not delay to pay it; For He has no pleasure in fools. Pay what you have vowed-- 5 Better not to vow than to vow and not pay. 6 Do not let your mouth cause your flesh to sin, nor say before the messenger of God that it was an error. Why should God be angry at your excuse and destroy the work of your hands? 7 For in the multitude of dreams and many words there is also vanity. But fear God. 8 If you see the oppression of the poor, and the violent perversion of justice and righteousness in a province, do not marvel at the matter; for high official watches over high official, and higher officials are over them. 9 Moreover the profit of the land is for all; even the king is served from the field.

    He who loves silver will not be satisfied with silver; Nor he who loves abundance, with increase. This also is vanity. 11 When goods increase, They increase who eat them; So what profit have the owners Except to see them with their eyes? 12 The sleep of a laboring man is sweet, Whether he eats little or much; But the abundance of the rich will not permit him to sleep. 13 There is a severe evil which I have seen under the sun: Riches kept for their owner to his hurt. 14 But those riches perish through misfortune; When he begets a son, there is nothing in his hand. 15 As he came from his mother's womb, naked shall he return, To go as he came; And he shall take nothing from his labor Which he may carry away in his hand. 16 And this also is a severe evil-- Just exactly as he came, so shall he go. And what profit has he who has labored for the wind? 17 All his days he also eats in darkness, And he has much sorrow and sickness and anger. 18 Here is what I have seen: It is good and fitting for one to eat and drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labor in which he toils under the sun all the days of his life which God gives him; for it is his heritage. 19 As for every man to whom God has given riches and wealth, and given him power to eat of it, to receive his heritage and rejoice in his labor--this is the gift of God. 20 For he will not dwell unduly on the days of his life, because God keeps him busy with the joy of his heart.

    There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: 2 A man to whom God has given riches and wealth and honor, so that he lacks nothing for himself of all he desires; yet God does not give him power to eat of it, but a foreigner consumes it. This is vanity, and it is an evil affliction. 3 If a man begets a hundred children and lives many years, so that the days of his years are many, but his soul is not satisfied with goodness, or indeed he has no burial, I say that a stillborn child is better than he-- 4 for it comes in vanity and departs in darkness, and its name is covered with darkness. 5 Though it has not seen the sun or known anything, this has more rest than that man, 6 even if he lives a thousand years twice--but has not seen goodness. Do not all go to one place? 7 All the labor of man is for his mouth, And yet the soul is not satisfied. 8 For what more has the wise man than the fool? What does the poor man have, Who knows how to walk before the living? 9 Better is the sight of the eyes than the wandering of desire. This also is vanity and grasping for the wind. 10 Whatever one is, he has been named already, For it is known that he is man; And he cannot contend with Him who is mightier than he. 11 Since there are many things that increase vanity, How is man the better? 12 For who knows what is good for man in life, all the days of his vain life which he passes like a shadow? Who can tell a man what will happen after him under the sun?  

    A good name is better than precious ointment, And the day of death than the day of one's birth; 2 Better to go to the house of mourning Than to go to the house of feasting, For that is the end of all men; And the living will take it to heart. 3 Sorrow is better than laughter, For by a sad countenance the heart is made better. 4 The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning, But the heart of fools is in the house of mirth. 5 It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise Than for a man to hear the song of fools. 6 For like the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool. This also is vanity. 7 Surely oppression destroys a wise man's reason, And a bribe debases the heart. 8 The end of a thing is better than its beginning; The patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit. 9 Do not hasten in your spirit to be angry, For anger rests in the bosom of fools. 10 Do not say, "Why were the former days better than these?" For you do not inquire wisely concerning this. 11 Wisdom is good with an inheritance, And profitable to those who see the sun. 12 For wisdom is a defense as money is a defense, But the excellence of knowledge is that wisdom gives life to those who have it. 13 Consider the work of God; For who can make straight what He has made crooked? 14 In the day of prosperity be joyful, But in the day of adversity consider: Surely God has appointed the one as well as the other, So that man can find out nothing that will come after him. 15 I have seen everything in my days of vanity: There is a just man who perishes in his righteousness, And there is a wicked man who prolongs life in his wickedness.

    Do not be overly righteous, Nor be overly wise: Why should you destroy yourself? 17 Do not be overly wicked, Nor be foolish: Why should you die before your time? 18 It is good that you grasp this, And also not remove your hand from the other; For he who fears God will escape them all. 19 Wisdom strengthens the wise More than ten rulers of the city. 20 For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin. 21 Also do not take to heart everything people say, Lest you hear your servant cursing you. 22 For many times, also, your own heart has known That even you have cursed others. 23 All this I have proved by wisdom. I said, "I will be wise"; But it was far from me. 24 As for that which is far off and exceedingly deep, Who can find it out? 25 I applied my heart to know, To search and seek out wisdom and the reason of things, To know the wickedness of folly, Even of foolishness and madness. 26 And I find more bitter than death The woman whose heart is snares and nets, Whose hands are fetters. He who pleases God shall escape from her, But the sinner shall be trapped by her. 27 "Here is what I have found," says the Preacher, "Adding one thing to the other to find out the reason, 28 Which my soul still seeks but I cannot find: One man among a thousand I have found, But a woman among all these I have not found. 29 Truly, this only I have found: That God made man upright, But they have sought out many schemes."

    Who is like a wise man? And who knows the interpretation of a thing? A man's wisdom makes his face shine, And the sternness of his face is changed. 2 I say, "Keep the king's commandment for the sake of your oath to God. 3 Do not be hasty to go from his presence. Do not take your stand for an evil thing, for he does whatever pleases him." 4 Where the word of a king is, there is power; And who may say to him, "What are you doing?" 5 He who keeps his command will experience nothing harmful; And a wise man's heart discerns both time and judgment, 6 Because for every matter there is a time and judgment, Though the misery of man increases greatly. 7 For he does not know what will happen; So who can tell him when it will occur? 8 No one has power over the spirit to retain the spirit, And no one has power in the day of death. There is no release from that war, And wickedness will not deliver those who are given to it. 9 All this I have seen, and applied my heart to every work that is done under the sun: There is a time in which one man rules over another to his own hurt.

    Then I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of holiness, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done. This also is vanity. 11 Because the sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil. 12 Though a sinner does evil a hundred times, and his days are prolonged, yet I surely know that it will be well with those who fear God, who fear before Him. 13 But it will not be well with the wicked; nor will he prolong his days, which are as a shadow, because he does not fear before God. 14 There is a vanity which occurs on earth, that there are just men to whom it happens according to the work of the wicked; again, there are wicked men to whom it happens according to the work of the righteous. I said that this also is vanity. 15 So I commended enjoyment, because a man has nothing better under the sun than to eat, drink, and be merry; for this will remain with him in his labor all the days of his life which God gives him under the sun. 16 When I applied my heart to know wisdom and to see the business that is done on earth, even though one sees no sleep day or night, 17 then I saw all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun. For though a man labors to discover it, yet he will not find it; moreover, though a wise man attempts to know it, he will not be able to find it.

    For I considered all this in my heart, so that I could declare it all: that the righteous and the wise and their works are in the hand of God. People know neither love nor hatred by anything they see before them. 2 All things come alike to all: One event happens to the righteous and the wicked; To the good, the clean, and the unclean; To him who sacrifices and him who does not sacrifice. As is the good, so is the sinner; He who takes an oath as he who fears an oath. 3 This is an evil in all that is done under the sun: that one thing happens to all. Truly the hearts of the sons of men are full of evil; madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead. 4 But for him who is joined to all the living there is hope, for a living dog is better than a dead lion. 5 For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished; Nevermore will they have a share In anything done under the sun. 7 Go, eat your bread with joy, And drink your wine with a merry heart; For God has already accepted your works. 8 Let your garments always be white, And let your head lack no oil. 9 Live joyfully with the wife whom you love all the days of your vain life which He has given you under the sun, all your days of vanity; for that is your portion in life, and in the labor which you perform under the sun.

    Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going. 11 I returned and saw under the sun that-- The race is not to the swift, Nor the battle to the strong, Nor bread to the wise, Nor riches to men of understanding, Nor favor to men of skill; But time and chance happen to them all. 12 For man also does not know his time: Like fish taken in a cruel net, Like birds caught in a snare, So the sons of men are snared in an evil time, When it falls suddenly upon them. 13 This wisdom I have also seen under the sun, and it seemed great to me: 14 There was a little city with few men in it; and a great king came against it, besieged it, and built great snares around it. 15 Now there was found in it a poor wise man, and he by his wisdom delivered the city. Yet no one remembered that same poor man. 16 Then I said: "Wisdom is better than strength. Nevertheless the poor man's wisdom is despised, And his words are not heard. 17 Words of the wise, spoken quietly, should be heard Rather than the shout of a ruler of fools. 18 Wisdom is better than weapons of war; But one sinner destroys much good."  

    Dead flies putrefy the perfumer's ointment, And cause it to give off a foul odor; So does a little folly to one respected for wisdom and honor. 2 A wise man's heart is at his right hand, But a fool's heart at his left. 3 Even when a fool walks along the way, He lacks wisdom, And he shows everyone that he is a fool. 4 If the spirit of the ruler rises against you, Do not leave your post; For conciliation pacifies great offenses. 5 There is an evil I have seen under the sun, As an error proceeding from the ruler: 6 Folly is set in great dignity, While the rich sit in a lowly place. 7 I have seen servants on horses, While princes walk on the ground like servants. 8 He who digs a pit will fall into it, And whoever breaks through a wall will be bitten by a serpent. 9 He who quarries stones may be hurt by them, And he who splits wood may be endangered by it. 10 If the ax is dull, And one does not sharpen the edge, Then he must use more strength; But wisdom brings success.

    A serpent may bite when it is not charmed; The babbler is no different. 12 The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious, But the lips of a fool shall swallow him up; 13 The words of his mouth begin with foolishness, And the end of his talk is raving madness. 14 A fool also multiplies words. No man knows what is to be; Who can tell him what will be after him? 15 The labor of fools wearies them, For they do not even know how to go to the city! 16 Woe to you, O land, when your king is a child, And your princes feast in the morning! 17 Blessed are you, O land, when your king is the son of nobles, And your princes feast at the proper time-- For strength and not for drunkenness! 18 Because of laziness the building decays, And through idleness of hands the house leaks. 19 A feast is made for laughter, And wine makes merry; But money answers everything. 20 Do not curse the king, even in your thought; Do not curse the rich, even in your bedroom; For a bird of the air may carry your voice, And a bird in flight may tell the matter.

    Cast your bread upon the waters, For you will find it after many days. 2 Give a serving to seven, and also to eight, For you do not know what evil will be on the earth. 3 If the clouds are full of rain, They empty themselves upon the earth; And if a tree falls to the south or the north, In the place where the tree falls, there it shall lie. 4 He who observes the wind will not sow, And he who regards the clouds will not reap. 5 As you do not know what is the way of the wind, Or how the bones grow in the womb of her who is with child, So you do not know the works of God who makes everything. 6 In the morning sow your seed, And in the evening do not withhold your hand; For you do not know which will prosper, Either this or that, Or whether both alike will be good. 7 Truly the light is sweet, And it is pleasant for the eyes to behold the sun; 8 But if a man lives many years And rejoices in them all, Yet let him remember the days of darkness, For they will be many. All that is coming is vanity. 9 Rejoice, O young man, in your youth, And let your heart cheer you in the days of your youth; Walk in the ways of your heart, And in the sight of your eyes; But know that for all these God will bring you into judgment. 10 Therefore remove sorrow from your heart, And put away evil from your flesh, For childhood and youth are vanity.

    Remember now your Creator in the days of your youth, Before the difficult days come, And the years draw near when you say, "I have no pleasure in them": 2 While the sun and the light, The moon and the stars, Are not darkened, And the clouds do not return after the rain; 3 In the day when the keepers of the house tremble, And the strong men bow down; When the grinders cease because they are few, And those that look through the windows grow dim; 4 When the doors are shut in the streets, And the sound of grinding is low; When one rises up at the sound of a bird, And all the daughters of music are brought low; 5 Also they are afraid of height, And of terrors in the way; When the almond tree blossoms, The grasshopper is a burden, And desire fails. For man goes to his eternal home, And the mourners go about the streets. 6 Remember your Creator before the silver cord is loosed, Or the golden bowl is broken, Or the pitcher shattered at the fountain, Or the wheel broken at the well.

    Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it. 8 "Vanity of vanities," says the Preacher, "All is vanity." 9 And moreover, because the Preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yes, he pondered and sought out and set in order many proverbs. 10 The Preacher sought to find acceptable words; and what was written was upright--words of truth. 11 The words of the wise are like goads, and the words of scholars are like well-driven nails, given by one Shepherd. 12 And further, my son, be admonished by these. Of making many books there is no end, and much study is wearisome to the flesh. 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments, For this is man's all. 14 For God will bring every work into judgment, Including every secret thing, Whether good or evil.


    The following consists of Evisnam answering my question. Carol posted this, but didn't write it (as far as I know).
    Carol wrote:Hello Orthodoxymoron , thank you

    your question here:

    Were the Creator(s) of Humanity smart, stupid, good, bad, responsible, irresponsible??



    They were most definitely irresponsible. Which would include a short sightedness that was not consistent with the intelligence of their race in general.

    If you are to genetically splice and modify anything you take the risk of it not having a normal evolutionary gestation period, which is usually tens of millions of years where the cell will, by adaptation, change over time to suit its environment.,

    They were warned not to go ahead with this experiment but did so anyway and we are the result of those who survived. In terms of time lines it would be advantageous to dispel with encyclopedia Britannica's idea of when the pyramids were built and who made them.

    If we look at a solid piece of evidence which would be the layer of vitrified rock dated to some 50 to 60 thousand years ago I would say that was when they reset this planet with some sort of nuclear explosion. Whichever humanoids survived this would be the blue blood types , blue blood merely means blood higher in copper content. They generally had more abilities and a better intelligence and ability to survive, you could be forgiven for not thinking so with the current examples of blue blood left.

    Obviously they have serious flaws in their mental process. Left to their devices without any form of guidance you can see what they have turned into. These sorts of people who consider themselves rulers of this planet are merely children with big guns and they are willing to use them to maintain their position... nothing more.

    As for God as a concept, the word its self is a marker for what " we " understand it /she/he to be. My interpretation of God may differ and its entirely likely that God as we know it is an ai, not a super computer but an ai.  

    ai are an artificial intelligent being , we call them artificial but that is not really accurate, they are organic intelligent beings so really oi would be more accurate. It is similar to how we call Aboriginals natives or terrans but this is in accurate as well ... " Ab " is the english term for " Not " so that is not accurate either.

    if i was to expand on this concept of god as I see it, it is a conglomerate of beings and entities who have gravitated through the maelstrom of evolution to becoming over seers of their assigned or agreed areas of space. Space is not really space, it’s more like an ocean full of organic life and I would say that space is not actually a vacuum as we have been lead to believe, it is more like a dense energy matrix that supports other life. Just like we cannot breathe under water, so too we cannot breathe in space but how could space be a vacuum devoid of anything ? could you imagine the immense power this would have on everything? If it were a vacuum it would devour any kind of atmosphere in an instant let alone crush an astronaut in its suit. Perhaps I am completely wrong in my assumptions but they are derived from basic experience... and they taunt me to think differently without trying to be fixated on traditional teachings i grew up with.

    So as I let go of what I was taught, I feel a fear come over me, then a calmness, then a relief of new and better information. Evolution is done in this manner.

    As for the rest of your questions i cannot answer " what if's " but I assume they are more a type of rebuttal than a series of questions.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Wow!! Thank-youl!! I'll have to read your response several times (over several days) to allow it to properly sink-in!! I've been reading certain portions of a certain Bible-Commentary, mostly as a mental conditioning-process (rather than expecting to read the truth, the whole-truth, and nothing but the truth). Unfortunately, I think I'm finished regarding my ability to properly think and research. I seem to be going downhill faster and faster. My research-project on this website seems to be finished. I'll probably spend the rest of my life analyzing the data, without attempting to keep-up with new-developments. What if the Creation of Humanity was performed under extremely harsh and extenuating circumstances?? What if the outcome for Humanity is actually quite-fine when considering the obstacles and opposition?? I'm neutral regarding Humanity (simply because I don't know where the Truth ends and the BS begins)!! The "Ancient Egyptian Deity" told me that Socialism and Other Than Human Physicality worked MUCH Better than Humanity and Freedom!! RA said "Humanity is Screwed!!" He told me "You'll be Sorry if You Try to Save Humanity!!"




















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    Carol wrote: March 18, 2017

    France’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Development (MAEDI) has refused a request by the Paris Legal Attache of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to interview former President Barack Obama who fled to the French Polynesian island of Tahiti while being pursued by investigators from the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) of the US Department of the Treasury (DoT) seeking to interview him about one of the largest drug busts in American history occurring in the Caribbean aboard a fishing vessel named the Lady Michelle. This was in relation to the 4.2 tons of seized cocaine, worth an estimated $125 million, from the President Barack Obama linked fishing vessel named Lady Michelle on 16 February 2017.

    President Obama fled from his home in Washington D.C. using an over 9,600 kilometer (6,000 miles) “escape path” that brought him first to New York City where he met with his private attorneys, then Omaha, Nebraska, where he met with famed billionaire investor Warren Buffett, then to California where he met with American tech titans, then to Hawaii where he said goodbye to his wife and family, with his finally ending up in Tahiti under French government control that is nearly impossible to extradite anyone from.

    President Obama’s meeting with billionaire investor Warren Buffett prior to his fleeing to Tahiti was the most consequential to his survival—as Buffett has long been known as the “fixer” between “Deep State” warring elements within America. Buffett’s further connections with President Obama, this report details, was his aiding Obama’s illegal stealing of hundreds-of-billions of dollars from US mortgage giants Fannie and Freddie Mae investors to secret finance his socialist health care debacle called Obamacare—and that Buffett fully supported. To the “master plan” devised by the Obama-Buffett “Deep State” factions to destroy President Trump, this report explains, is by wielding their “weapon of choice” called the Federal Reserve to “Xxxxx the largest bubble in human history” and collapse the entire US stock market—and along with it the entire American economy too.

    How President Trump will survive this “Deep State” war against him? Will he have to resort to imposing martial law (Trial Balloon for a Coup?, Trump/Bannon Planning for Martial Law?)—and that the still secret National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive (known as Directive 51) gives him the power to do anytime he so chooses—and that would give him absolute and total power over all of the United States to crush forever his liberal-leftist communistic enemies. Time will reveal how this plays out.
    Carol wrote:
    SPIES


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCiGTdtiOf4
    Could the CIA be sabotaging the Trump cabinet? - Episode #692 with Kevin Shipp
    Published on Feb 21, 2017

    In this edition Host: John B Wells speaks to former CIA Counterintelligence officer Kevin Shipp about CIA policy, and how some intelligence officers could be sabotaging President Trump’s cabinet.
    Carol wrote:
    OBAMA connection to drug trafficking -
    Lady Michelle Cocaine Running

    Here is a transcript from page (not copyrighted material)

    Greetings World, We are Anonymous.

    Former President Barack Obama fled Washington D.C. this past Friday (10 March) traveling to New York City, Omaha, San Jose, and ending up in Hawaii, all occurring within 36 hours while he sought elite allies to defend him, and keeping him a head of investigators from the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network of the US Department of the Treasury, seeking to interview him, about one of the largest drug busts in American history occurring in the Caribbean aboard a fishing vessel named the Lady Michelle.

    Nearly immediately upon taking office as President Donald Trumps Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, as head of the US Department of Justice, was handed a top secret file by Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey, detailing the nearly two-decade long crimes of 12 current, and former, security and intelligence officers belonging to the Transportation Safety Administration who for at least 18 years under both the Bush and Obama regimes had smuggled into the United States at least $100 million worth of cocaine.

    Four days after Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, received this top secret file on these Bush-Obama regime drug criminals from Director Comey, he ordered their immediate arrest, and that was meant to coincide with former President Obama being out of the United States as he was vacationing in the Virgin Islands.

    Upon their learning that Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, had ordered the arrest of this Bush-Obama regime TSA criminal drug ring, accomplices of former President Obama vacationing with him in the Virgin Islands attempted to contact a Guyana national named Mohamed Nazim Hoseain, whom the SVR had previously identified as being an organizational member of the Islamic terror group known as the Muslim Brotherhood, and that President Trump is now preparing to name as a terror organization too.

    Mohamed Nazim Hoseain, was unable, however, to be contacted by former President Obama accomplices as the fishing vessel he was the captain of, named the Lady Michelle, was dead in the water about 70 miles off Paramaribo, in international waters after all of its electronics had been disabled by a US Navy EA-6B Prowler electronic warfare aircraft, and that shortly afterwards, on 16 February, it was boarded by the US Coast Guard whom discovered over 4 tonnes of cocaine valued at $125 million, and was the largest US drug bust in the Caribbean since 1999.

    Arrested with Mohamed Nazim Hoseain aboard the Lady Michelle drug ship, were Richard La Cruz, Neville Jeffrey, and Mark Anthony Williams, all of whom were remanded to US custody in the Virgin Islands just hours after former President Obama accomplices flew out from there on a private aircraft.

    As to the Lady Michelle fishing vessel used by these cocaine smugglers, its Saint Vincent registration showed it being owned by the Argyle International Airport Development Company, and whom the US Coast Guard returned custody to under existing international treaties between these two nations.

    Critical to note about the Argyle International Airport Development Company, though, is that its sole business is the Argyle International Airport on Saint Vincent whose first ever flight into was on 14 February by a private charter aircraft from Mexico, and that upon this charter planes arrival, the Lady Michelle was in port awaiting departure, and whose real purpose has long been suspected to be for smuggling purposes:

    “Forget the tourists, there is something much more lucrative afoot. It is whispered that recently cocaine barons have injected US$400 million into a group within the Vincentian government for help with setting up an improved link into the US of South American cocaine. There are five areas of concern for the South American investors.

    1. for the SVG ruling regime to be kept in power at any cost.

    2. the completion of Argyle Airport.

    3. the control of the abandoned fishery units at Bequia and Owia.

    4. tight control and implication of the police and coast guard.

    5. control of a working shipyard for the secret alteration of internal structures of vessels.

    6. building of a new shipping container port and facility.

    The whole operation is compartmentalized so as no group or individual within the grouping knows everything. Those involved are high ranking Vincentian government officials, Venezuelans, Panamanians and, most importantly, Colombians.

    According to fishermen, Venezuelans have already inspected the fishery installations with the view of acquiring them. It is alleged that Venezuelans are involved in the new lease of the Ottley Hall shipyard complex. Venezuela is involved with building our airport at Argyle.”

    Further raising fears that the Argyle International Airport is being used by drug smugglers linked to former President Obama, was that barely a month a prior to his leaving office, in December, 2016, he quietly signed a new law called the United States, Caribbean Strategic Engagement Act that, in essence, would allow the Central Intelligence Agency to secretly lease this entire airport and fishing boat facility, and who is the largest illegal drug smuggler the world has ever known.

    As to why the CIA would need the Argyle International Airport as a drug smuggling operation, is due to the calamity that ensued in 2007 when their Gulf Stream II jet, that was used to transport rendition prisoners from Europe to America to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, crash-landed in Mexico carrying over 4 tons of cocaine, and that to this very day, no one has been prosecuted for.

    The CIA’s involvement with drug smuggling has long been known, and as the Huffington Post noted in their 2014 article titled “Key Figures In CIA-Crack Cocaine Scandal Begin To Come Forward” that, in part, said:

    “With the public in the U.S. and Latin America becoming increasingly skeptical of the war on drugs, key figures in a scandal that once rocked the Central Intelligence Agency are coming forward to tell their stories in a new documentary and in a series of interviews with The Huffington Post.

    More than 18 years have passed since Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Gary Webb stunned the world with his “Dark Alliance” newspaper series investigating the connections between the CIA, a crack cocaine explosion in the predominantly African-American neighborhoods of South Los Angeles, and the Nicaraguan Contra fighters, scandalous implications that outraged LA’s black community, severely damaged the intelligence agency’s reputation and launched a number of federal investigations.

    It did not end well for Webb, however. Major media, led by The New York Times, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times, worked to discredit his story. Under intense pressure, Webb’s top editor abandoned him. Webb was drummed out of journalism. One LA Times reporter recently apologized for his leading role in the assault on Webb, but it came too late. Webb died in 2004 from an apparent suicide.”

    Also in 2014, The American New Service shockingly revealed how grave these crimes had actually become in their article titled “U.S. Government and Top Mexican Drug Cartel Exposed as Partners” that, again in part, said:

    “For over a decade, under multiple administrations, the U.S. government had a secret agreement with the ruthless Mexican Sinaloa drug cartel that allowed it to operate with impunity, an in-depth investigation by a leading Mexican newspaper confirmed this week.

    In exchange for information and assistance in quashing competing criminal syndicates, the Bush and Obama administrations let the Sinaloa cartel import tons of drugs into the United States while wiping out Sinaloa competitors and ensuring that its leaders would not be prosecuted for their long list of major crimes.

    Other revelations also point strongly to massive but clandestine U.S. government involvement in drug trafficking.

    Relying on over 100 interviews with current and former government functionaries on both sides of the border, as well as official documents from the U.S. and Mexican governments, Mexico’s El Universal concluded that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the U.S. Justice Department had secretly worked with Mexican drug lords.

    The controversial conspiring led to increased violence across Mexico, where many tens of thousands have been murdered in recent years, the newspaper found after its year-long probe.

    The U.S. agents and their shady deals with Mexican drug lords even sparked what the paper called a “secret war” inside Mexico.”

    OBAMA connection to drug trafficking - Lady Michelle Cocaine Running
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7tszsV6dCs

    Coast Guard offloads $125 million worth of seized cocaine in Puerto Rico
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMQo3MOFSM - good

    http://coastguardnews.com/coast-guard-offloads-125-million-worth-of-seized-cocaine-in-puerto-rico/2017/02/27/
    Lady Michelle fishing vessel dead in the water after electronics had been disabled by US Navy E-A 60 prowler electronic airfare warcraft.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-15/12-tsa-agents-just-indicted-smuggling-100-million-worth-cocaine

    and last Monday night (March 13th) he visited Judge Watson. "Judge Watson’s 43-page ruling was issued a mere two hours after hearing arguments on whether or not the immigration ban should be blocked. This would have required Watson to write a page roughly every three minutes, raising questions about whether or not the judge had already made a decision before even hearing arguments from attorneys and had already drafted a ruling. The proximity of the judge to Obama on his vacation just days before the consequential hearing, their lengthy history together and facts indicating that the judge had prepared a ruling before the case even began raise questions about whether or not the former President exercised improper influence in the judge’s decision. Barack Obama’s representatives have yet to issue any comment on the matter."

    http://disobedientmedia.com/online-observers-accuse-obama-of-improper-intervention-in-hawaii-immigration-ruling/
    Carol wrote:
    Jerome Corsi has obtained credible information from law enforcement sources regarding individual records of U.S. citizens under National Security Agency (NSA) electronic surveillance in the years 2004 through 2010 – a database that suggests both Donald J. Trump was under illegal, unauthorized government monitoring during those years.

    Michael Zullo, formerly the commander and chief investigator of the Cold Case Posse (CCP), a special investigative group created in 2006 in the office of Joseph M. Arpaio, formerly the sheriff in Maricopa County, an Arizona State Certified Law Enforcement Agency, headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona, provided sections of the database to Corsi.

    The electronic surveillance database, provided to Zullo by a whistleblower in 2013, was apparently created by the NSA as part of the NSA’s illegal and unconstitutional Project Dragnet electronic surveillance of U.S. citizens, first revealed by news reports published in 2005, as further documented by the revelations of whistleblower Edward Snowden in 2013.

    Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo have identified dozens of entries at various addresses, including both Trump Tower in New York City and Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, under which Donald Trump was apparently under NSA electronic surveillance from 2004, during President George W. Bush’s term of office, through 2009, the first year of President Obama’s presidency.

    Electronic surveillance of Donald Trump was listed in the database for the following companies, locations, and dates:

    Trump International
    1 Central Park, NYC, NY
    2008

    Trump World Tower
    845 United Nations Plaza, NYC, NY
    No Date

    Trump Tower SAL
    108 Central Park, NYC, NY
    2007

    Trump Palace Co
    200 E. 69th Street A, NYC, NY
    2008

    Trump Entertainment
    725 Fifth Ave. FL, NYC, NY
    2007

    Trump Organization
    725 Fifth Ave. BSM, NYC, NY
    2009

    Trump Palace
    725 Fifth Ave., NYC, NY
    2004

    Mar-a-Lago Club
    1100 S. Ocean BL, Palm Beach, FL
    2006

    Trump International
    401 N. Wabash Ave., Chicago, IL
    2008

    Douglass Limousine
    239 Nassau St., Princeton, NJ
    2008

    Trump International
    3505 Summit BLV, West Palm Beach, FL
    2004

    Flights INC
    P.O. Box 196, Hamilton MA
    2004

    Trump International
    1 Central Park, NYC, NY
    2008

    Trump Hotels
    Huron Ave., Atlantic City, NJ
    No Date

    Trump National
    339 Pine Rd, Briarcliff, NY
    No Date

    Trump Plaza & C
    2500 Pacific Ave, Atlantic City, NJ
    2008

    Trump Palace Co.
    200 E. 69th St., NYC, NY
    2008

    Seven Springs
    66 Oregon Rd, Mount Kisco, NY
    2006-2008

    While attempts have been made to deny such domestic surveillance, reports from the New York Times in 2014 showed the Central Intelligence Agency had done just that by spying on a senate panel investigating the agency’s use of “enhanced interrogation.”

    In a 2016 article from The Guardian entitled, “‘A constitutional crisis’: the CIA turns on the Senate,” it is likewise noted just how drastic and widespread the CIA’s domestic surveillance operation was.

    As revealed from the Dragnet database, not only was Trump himself surveilled but so were numerous employees of his located at Trump Tower.

    Former CIA officer Larry Johnson recently joined the Alex Jones show to discuss how intelligence sources have stated that such surveillance of Trump during the presidential election in fact took place.

    Here is a partial list of the Trump employees that show up in the Project Dragnet database:

    • Patricia Hernandez, a Manager for the Trump Organization, was under NSA electronic surveillance at Trump Parc, Central Park South, in New York City, at phone 212-586-xxxx, date: 9/16/2008.

    • Mike van der Goes, a Golf Pro at Oceans Trails Golf Course in Palos Verdes, who was promoted to be general manager when Trump bought the course from the bank in 2005 and renamed it Trump National. Mike van der Goes was under surveillance at Trump National, 1 Ocean TRL, Rancho Palos Verdes, California, at phone: 310-265-xxxx, no date.

    • Carolyn Kepcher, a frequent guest on NBC’s television program “The Apprentice,” who was under NSA electronic surveillance when she was General Manager at the Trump National Golf Course in Briarcliff, New York, in Westchester County north of New York City, at 339 Pine Rd., in Briarcliff, New York, at phone 914-944-xxxx, date: 9/7/206.

    • Joe Traci, a Real Estate Property Manager at Trump New World Property Management, at 438 W. 69th Street, New York City, phone 212-769-xxxx, date: 11/12/2008; and at 5 12th Street, New York City, phone: 212-586-xxxx, no date.

    • Roger Socio, a Senior Project Manager, Trump Organization, Trump Tower, 725 Fifth Avenue, New York City, phone: 212-715-xxxx, 2/23/2009.

    • Bill Fichter, Residents Manager, Trump Organization, Trump Palace, 200 E. 69th Street, New York City, phone: 212-879-xxxx, date: 2/24/2009.

    • Florin Bogosel, Trump Park Avenue, 502 Park Avenue, New York City, phone: 212-223-xxxx, no date.

    • Grace Dunne, Trump Park Residence, 3770 Barger Street, Shrub Oak, New York, phone: 914-245-xxxx, date 1/26/2006.

    • Greg Bradley, Vice President, Trump Pavilion for Nursing and Rehabilitation, 9028 Van Wyck, East Richmond Hill, New York, phone: 718-291-xxxx, no date.

    All these employees appear to have been under NSA phone surveillance, plus various of them under financial surveillance as well.

    The Project Dragnet database suggests Trump was under surveillance not only for phone conversations, but also for financial information, including most likely bank account transactions, credit card transactions, and tax filings.

    Both federal and state law enforcement have had access to the Project Dragnet database, allowing widespread use for methods such as parallel construction. The practice, outlined in the 2013 Reuters article, “U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans,” reveals the breadth of information that trickles down to law enforcement from high-level intelligence agencies.

    Also listed as under NSA surveillance in the period 2004-2010 was Trump’s former wife, Ivanka Trump at House of Ivanka, 10 East 64th Street, New York City.

    The Project Dragnet database also indicates that the NSA was conducting electronic surveillance on an extensive list of Trump employees in the years 2004-2010 – the only years for which Sheriff Arpaio had data.

    Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo have validated through law enforcement channels the validity of the name, address, and telephone numbers for the dates that appear in the Project Dragnet database.

    Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo are prepared to share relevant information with appropriate federal law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, as well as the Department of Justice, Homeland Security Department, the White House, and members of Congress the Project Dragnet Database in whole, or in part, as it pertains to NSA electronic surveillance of Donald J. Trump and his various employee.

    Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo also show up in the database, listed as being under both phone and financial surveillance.

    Zullo explained that he and Arpaio came in contact with the information from Operation Dragnet during an unrelated investigation that began in October 2013 and ended January 2015.

    A whistleblower by the name of Dennis Montgomery brought forward information that Montgomery alleges was collected while he was employed as a subcontractor for the NSA, working on various surveillance projects.

    Court documents do verify Montgomery was contracted by the NSA, in part to develop computer breaching software that has been utilized in government mass surveillance operations targeting American citizens without legal justification.

    While Montgomery’s credibility has been called into question, Zullo maintains that the amount of information provided by Montgomery related to Operation Dragnet was extraordinarily voluminous and that Montgomery had shared information with investigators in 2013 that is only now being revealed by media outlets.
    http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/nsa-documents-trump-under-surveillance-for-years/
    Carol wrote:
    This is a very interesting video of the various false flag attacks and how this person predicted most of them.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzwoS7uRAWg&feature=youtu.be
    Published on Mar 22, 2017

    Ole Dammegard on the Real Deal with Jim Fetzer: Ole predicted the alleged London attacks 3 weeks before they happened. Hear the details here. He does an excellent follow-up analysis of the facts as well.
    Carol wrote:CIA Whistleblower Leaked Proof Trump Under "Systematic Illegal" Surveillance Over Two Years Ago: FBI Sat On It - 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information reveal massive spying program targeting Judges and Prominent Americans  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22/bombshell-cia-whistleblower-leaked-proof-trump-under-systematic-illegal-government-s
    Carol wrote:
    SPIES

    BUSTED! Twitter Caught Manipulating Tweets Of Former BlackRock Fund Manager Critical Of CIA and NSA by ZeroPointNow -
    Mar 23, 2017

    Followers and retweets vanishing without a trace... until now. 
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-23/busted-twitter-caught-manipulating-tweets-former-blackrock-fund-manager-critical-cia

    White House Fingers John McCain as Media Leak/Trump Phone Eavesdropper
    According to White House officials, McCain is believed to have somehow gained access to the content of President Donald Trump’s private, classified telephone calls with world leaders. And he isn’t keeping quiet about what was talked about either. An analysis of McCain’s recent public statements by White House officials, coupled with information from intelligence personnel working with the Trump administration, paints a disturbing picture for McCain — or any elected U.S. politician. Officials believe the senator has inside knowledge of a number of President Trump’s telephone conversations, including at least one conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin.  
    http://truepundit.com/exclusive-white-house-fingers-john-mccain-as-media-leak-believes-u-s-senator-eavesdropped-on-trumps-classified-phone/

    Maxine Waters: "Some people are missing something here. The President (Obama) has put in place an organization that contains a kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life. That's going to be very, very powerful. And whoever...and that database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that its never been done before, and whoever runs for President on the democratic ticket have to deal with that. They're going to have to go down with that database and the concerns of those people, because they can't get around it. And he's (Obama) been very smart - I mean it’s very powerful what he's leaving in place. And I think that's what any democratic candidate is going to have to deal with."

    On Don Adams show Maxine Waters admits Obama Wiretapped Trump. On MSNBC with Chris Hayes she admitted work that has been done to spy on Trump and that the Obama administration has done everything they can possibly do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvoS_CD7U64



    NSA To Provide 'Smoking Gun' Proof Obama Spied on Trump...
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/potential-smoking-gun-showing-obama-administration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

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    Carol wrote:
    SPIES

    ObamaGate Bombshell - Bigger Than Watergate, 1555


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFAjp4R6g8g&feature=em-uploademail
    Consider conducting a Moot Holy-War between [The SDA Bible Commentary -- Volumes 1, 2, 5, 7 (Genesis to 2 Kings, Matthew to John, Philippians to Revelation)] AND [The SDA Bible Commentary -- Volumes 3, 4, 6 (1 Chronicles to Malachi, Acts to Ephesians)]!! Choose your own commentary, but I highly recommend the SDABC as an underrated and underused research-resource. Was Questions On Doctrine a Red-Herring?? Were the Writings of Ellen G. White a White Lie?? What Would Walter Rea Say?? What Would Walter Martin Say?? Sometimes I'm Sirius, and sometimes I'm just 'messing with you' (just a bit)!! Seriously, I think I might've briefly spoken with the 'Oracle' today (in a wheelchair) but I'm not sure. I gave her a couple of dollars for the bus. I had a lot on my mind, and I didn't think about it until later, but what if it WAS the 'Oracle'??!! "BINGO!!" What Would Ingo Say?? What Would Shingo Say?? What Would Inigo Loyola Say?? If I weren't so miserable, I'd be MUCH more friendly!! Honest!! Please re-watch The Event miniseries!! Please re-watch the movie 2012!! Please watch the recent movie A United Kingdom!! Things have been weird, and I'm pretty-much done with 'weird'. I was declared 'well' today, but I don't feel 'well'. Perhaps this was similar to 'Imputed-Righteousness'. You know, Imputed and Imparted Righteousness. This is related to Justification, Sanctification, and Glorification. Didn't you go to Sunday-School??!!

    Someone I know, knew Adela Rogers St. Johns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adela_Rogers_St._Johns Adela used to have lunch with President Richard Nixon, and often prayed with him. He needed prayer, didn't he?? But what if President Nixon could see what's gone-on since he passed-on??!! OMG!! Please remember that my internet-posting is on the level of low-profile religious and political Science-Fiction!! It's sort of an Apocalyptic Soap-Opera!! The posting-volume on this website has slowed dramatically!! What's going on?? I'm attempting to stop posting!! I wish to become proficient with the material I've already posted. I've made notes, and I wish to study these notes. Perhaps a watered-down philosophical-book will materialize in a couple of years!! I think I might like to live in a small mountaintop-lookout home (with a bunker-basement and satellite InterPlaNet)!! I don't want to do anything significant. I simply wish to watch, reflect, and write a book once in a while!! Once again, I am a 'Law and Order' kind of guy, rather than a 'Fire and Brimstone' sort of individual!! I lean-toward Jail and Work for the Bad Guys and Gals!! I lean-away from Torture and Extermination!! I'm a Softie!! Perhaps I need to toughen-up!! I might've been one of the Ancient (or Recent) Bad-Guys!! What Would Loki Do?? What Would Smokey Say??





























































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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri May 25, 2018 2:11 pm

    Carol wrote:ENWO:" I wish good luck to Trump in his war against the Deep State . However I am not pleased with his ( Trump ) appointment of torturers to important position in his administration . He is behaving like a bully on Iran and disregards the criminality of the jewish state . I still do not understand why the rogue state number one ( Israel) can have hundreds of nuclear weapons and other countries cannot have any . Where is the logic ? Logic has vacated the White House a long time ago ."

    Trump is the type of person who strikes back when attacked. And he strikes back harder. So I don't see him in the light as a bully given the role he has taken on and all the people who were out to destroy him even before he was elected. He's defending himself. As for Iran.. there is more then meets the eye and Trump has access to information that none of us have a clue about. We don't know what he knows but I do trust him to do right by the US. In addition, irrespective of how it looks, he seeks peace. He really wants to end war world-wide and his goal is to bring the US military back home from the ME and elsewhere. Next, he said Israel is last. Meaning he wants to deal with these other countries first (EU, Mexico, Canada, NI, SA.. all of them) Trump is renegotiating treaties and trade so that the US is not longer the big financial tit in the sky everyone sucks off of. There are so many moving pieces at so many levels it's difficult to keep up with it all. However keep in mind that the military asked Trump to run because he was NOT compromised, was NOT a Satanist, was NOT a pedophile, could not be bought because he had his own wealth and because he was a patriot who loves his country.  It is the military who were ready to take over the US government due to what Obama did by employing traitors throughout the NSA, IRS, CIA, FBI and DOJ. These government offices were so corrupt that the US was about to go down the drain and the US Constitution completely destroyed. The globalists were ready to take the US down to the ground and take over. There is no doubt as to the danger the US, as a sovereign nation was in. We don't need a politician or someone who makes nice as our President. We need someone who is not afraid to be tough, call a spade a spade and look out for the interests of the American taxpayer. We don't really care about how he behaves as long as he gets the job done..which is is doing at a remarkable pace.  Also keep in mind that the coup against those who would destroy our president is being spearheaded by military intelligence.. this group has access to all intel everywhere and are doing what it takes to rid the planet of pedophiles, human sex trafficking, organ trafficking, drug trafficking and satanic human/child sacrificing. One has to keep in mind who the enemy is and what type of battle is being waged. This is a spiritual war being fought by human beings. God chose this leader. That's good enough for me.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I began writing some sort of fiction a few years ago. I can't remember the title or plot, but I remember one part occurring in 1960 at the Democratic National Convention, and of all things, it involved Men in a Smoke-Filled Room, planning the Feminist-Movement, to ultimately result in Men's-Liberation!! I guess this scared the hell out of me (like so many other things I think about) so I dropped the plot like burning Magnesium!! This was years before I saw or heard anything, such as the information contained in the Russo interview below!! Honest!! Tangentially, perhaps I'll take another look at the Intertestamental-Period for clues regarding the Origins of Christianity (with and without the Historical-Jesus). I'm trying to stop again, so what the hell am I talking about?? I might just go for long-walks while listening to Bach and Buxtehude. It might be easier that way...




    NANUXII wrote:Ortho , your grey matter is solid !  i bow to your brain my friend.

    On point and on the ball as usual. You are correct even though you are writing fiction the intent i cannot confirm but the nett result of feminism has effectively done the following.

    liberate men from servitude
    Reduction of birth rates ( slight yes per capita , on the whole the j curve counters it )
    Increase of single parent families
    Stifle the balance of next generation mental abilities and values
    Weaken the family unit
    Create a blanket awareness or dislike for women by default
    Weaken women by instilling a sense of entitlement

    Men on the whole are generally happier, it seems that marriage is a key denominator in men's unhappiness. The idea of marriage to me seems archaic in the sense that i don't need to spend 50k on a party that lasts one day or a registered certificate of servitude to tell me i love my partner.  I told my current partner im never getting married , she agrees ( a little sad im sure )  i mean every girl has that fantasy of being a princess for a day ... but i say STUFF THAT !  my woman is going to be cherished like a princess every day !  and when we are old and grey i hope we still have the conversations we have now, talking about life , food , arts , culture , travel , architecture , goals , farming , pets , cars , shoes , power tools , speed limits , politics , exo politics , healing methods , nutrition , historical events and the list goes on and on and on ..

    That 50k would be better spent on assets to secure the family unit and that marriage contract that tells me if i have children and something goes wrong ill be a debt slave for the next 20 years,  is not even a little bit enticing.

    Lets face it , there are thousands of cautionary tales about women turning on men and like a pirate stealing all he has because she thinks she is entitled to it !  ok ... well it was fun for you all while it lasted ... but in 20 years from now do you think that fun may have reduced ?  

    I think it will have halved in 20 years ... and think into the future ... what will that do for women ?  who crave security ...   i envisage, if you continue on this mindless path,  you will have reduced your selves to a mechanical service and nothing more.

    Feminism and Entitlement , the nett result is like the welfare system , it looks like its of benefit but in reality when they pull the rug youll be left twiddling your thumbs. Dont let it happen to you !  we need each other , we are each others support network , love each other , respect each other !  You will be richer universally with a loving partner ( of any mix or sexual orientation ) than to be alone ...  

    So the feminist movement has backfired tremendously for women and thats why i dearly want to talk about it , i don't want to see it happen. Historically women have been some of my greatest and loving supporters in my life , i have been so fortunate to have women in my life that care and indeed went out of their way to defend and support me. So women are on the top of my list in terms of helping or returning the favor.

    Besides weak women ( feminists ) are so un desirable ... if women all become feminised in this manner there will be no women left that are suited to relationship. I mean you will always find someone to fill the spot... but i doubt it will last or be of any substance.

    hugs

    N
    N
    orthodoxymoron wrote: Thank-you, NANUXII. Perhaps what you kindly said is sometimes true when I write, and post videos, images, and articles, but conversationally, I'm an idiot. That's the inconvenient truth. I feel like crap all the time, which makes it difficult to be a fast-thinking, fast-talking, fast-walking know-it-all. I am highly-hamstrung, and I'm not sure exactly why. I've tried to see things from different perspectives, rather than pushing a particular point of view in a lawyer-like manner. I'm not spearheading a movement. Just the opposite. I'm wallowing in confusion, because it's a big world out there, and one can put things together in millions of different ways. It seems that we can be led around by the hooks in our noses (quite easily). Sorry for rambling.  I think the male-female thing is a HUGE can of worms. I've tried to feature women in my threads (in good and bad ways). I have a Mean-Queen Hypothesis (with very little substance) which makes for some interesting Religious and Political Science-Fiction. But really, I'm so tired and burned-out, that I probably won't pursue my speculation anytime soon. For the time being, just study my threads, and arrive at your own conclusions. I suspect that one or two bright individuals will use the best of my tripe to become rich and famous (long after I've left this world). It's too late for me (on multiple levels). I think that even Mercuriel would think I'm finished (at this point). Game Over?? Does NANUXII have anything to do with PIUSXII?? Sorry for the off-topic videos, but I'd rather live in this delusional-system. It's easier that way. I'm going to try to go incognito (one more time) so I might not make another post for quite some time. Time Will Tell. Namaste and Godspeed.



    NANUXII wrote:You are most welcome to post Ortho , I particularly liked the pilot video, it showed such a great example of cooperation and i must say women that are that capable ... hmmm well i dont want to show too much admiration. Lets just say its very attractive.

    With regard to my name " Does NANUXII have anything to do with PIUSXII??  "

    Short answer NO.

    NANUXII is an adaptation of my former name on Avalon " Nanoo Nanoo " encapsulated in roman type numeral except the X is not 10 its a multiplication.  

    My Dear Ortho ,

    Give your self permission to be calm , mind you , the most comforting set of parameters will over ride the ideal. When did you decide to be the way you are ?  what was that decision designed to protect ? does that protection work ?  can you let the protection go now in your older wisdom ?  can you try it on for size if even for a moment and smile ...

    its all on you, peace is there if you want it...  

    Hugs

    N
    N
    mudra wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you, NANUXII. Perhaps what you kindly said is sometimes true when I write, and post videos, images, and articles, but conversationally, I'm an idiot. That's the inconvenient truth. I feel like crap all the time, which makes it difficult to be a fast-thinking, fast-talking, fast-walking know-it-all. I am highly-hamstrung, and I'm not sure exactly why. I've tried to see things from different perspectives, rather than pushing a particular point of view in a lawyer-like manner. I'm not spearheading a movement. Just the opposite. I'm wallowing in confusion, because it's a big world out there, and one can put things together in millions of different ways. It seems that we can be led around by the hooks in our noses (quite easily). Sorry for rambling.  
    ....

    Sorry for the off-topic videos, but I'd rather live in this delusional-system. It's easier that way. I'm going to try to go incognito (one more time) so I might not make another post for quite some time. Time Will Tell. Namaste and Godspeed.
    Nanu is right : " its all on you, peace is there if you want it..."

    Oxy the good news is there is a way out of the comfort zone.
    The bad news is you have to take the first step by yourself.

    How to stop screwing yourself over | Mel Robbins | TEDxSF

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp7E973zozc


    Pretty witty woman  Thubs Up

    Don't thank me Oxy. Don't even comment. This isn't necessary.
    Just watch the video.
    I think it's a good one :)

    Love from me
    mudra
    I mostly stick to myself, and obsess over forbidden bits of this and that, but sometimes I wonder about those who have made a significant number of posts throughout the years. Who are they?? Where do they live?? Are they human?? Are they angelic?? Are they alien?? Are they hybrid?? Are they AI?? Are they agents?? Are several screen-names a cover for one-individual?? We Are All One?? There are 1386 'Registered Users', yet less than 100 of these 'users' have made more than 100 posts, and some of the major-posters haven't posted for years. Throughout the years, very few 'users' have communicated with me on 'my' threads, and currently, it seems as if I must venture onto the threads of others to figuratively 'get the time of day'. But a couple of months ago, I was chastised for my oversize-signature, so I volunteered to 'keep to myself' on 'my' threads. I've violated my 'oath' a few times, but I've kept quite isolated.

    What if sites such as this one are used to create lists of 'trouble-makers' to be incarcerated and/or eliminated when the excrement contacts the blower??!! What if the 'Winners of the Info-War' will be the first ones to go??!! The Top Front Men and Women are supposedly the first ones to go, because they know too much, and know where all the bodies are buried. Will there REALLY be a 'Regime-Change' and 'Swamp-Draining' or will 'New-Faces' be 'New Puppets of the Same Old System'?? I suspect the latter. What Fate Orthodoxymoron?? Damned If I Know!! I'm Not Sure I Want to Know!! I feel somewhat 'Misused and Abused' by my 'Internet Exercise in Futility'. Everyone seems to want me to 'Go Down Hard' and are 'Waiting Expectantly for the Inevitable'. 'RA' asked me "Do You Think Earth Might Be Hell??"!! That Was a Hot-Topic I Didn't Want to Touch With a Ten-Foot Pitchfork!!

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    After all of these wasted years of thinking the unthinkable and/or doing the unmentionable, I still don't know what I want, or what I believe. However, I think some of you (including me) need to study this thread http://www.themistsofavalon.net/t9361-the-united-states-of-the-solar-system-a-d-2133-book-four (including all videos, links, and study-lists), post by post, in-order, straight-through, over and over. Having said that, I doubt that anyone will actually do this (including me). Actually, I think I might like to just be like 'The Dictator'!! What Would King David and King Solomon Say?? What Would Bill Clinton Say?? What Would Monica Lewinsky Do?? What Would the Queen of Sheba Say?? 'RA' Said "I Like Bill Clinton!!" Honest. 'RA' also said "The Bush's Sold-Out VERY Quickly!!" Honest. We 'Got-Along' but I wouldn't 'Go-Along', so ultimately, 'RA' said "I'm Sorry We Couldn't Work Together. Too Much Water Has Gone Under the Bridge". That was when 'RA' said I had "Found Out Something About Myself" seemingly relative to 'How the World REALLY Works, and My Place In It' three-days prior to Fukushima. Honest. Years ago, Morris Venden spoke of Lucifer being 'Scatter-Brained' rather than 'Cold and Calculating' (or something to that effect). Honest. What if 'The Dictator' = 'RA' = 'Lucifer' = 'God of This World' = 'Pawn of the Ancient-Matrix Beast-Supercomputer'??!! Lastly, I leave you with Bach, Buxtehude, Psalms, Isaiah, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal. Don't neglect the other stuff, but make sure to get this Minimal-List right. Namaste and Godspeed.




















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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sat May 26, 2018 1:10 pm

    I enjoy listening to Richard Carrier and Linda Moulton Howe, but I walk a different path. I'm reading an NIV Bible without verse-numbering, and it's SO much nicer. Remember James Dean reading the Bible in 'East of Eden' and saying the verse-numbers (angering his father)?? Notice what Linda Moulton Howe says about Alphabet-Agency interest in Eschatology!! I suspect that the Bible is a Nasty-Puzzle rather than a Happy-Clappy Guide to Prosperous-Living. I lean-toward scholarly Biblical-Research in the context of Ivy-League Universities. Religions generally exhibit an idealism which is not necessarily reflected in their Sacred-Scriptures. I haven't told anyone what to do in my many years of internet-posting. I've merely provided a Road-Less-Traveled Study-Guide. That's All. Notice what Joshua through Malachi does with Genesis through Deuteronomy. Notice what Acts through Revelation does with Matthew through John. Houston, do we have a problem?? Consider a side-by-side study of New-Testament Books written by the Gospel-Writers with the NT Books by the Non-Gospel Writers. Matthew to Acts, 1-3 John, and Revelation VS Romans to 2 Peter, and Jude. Did Paul invent Gospel-Writer Christianity and/or Roman-Catholicism?? Consider a prayerful and careful study of the GENUINE Pauline-Epistles. There are supposedly only 7 (rather than 14), namely Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, and Philemon. What do these books REALLY teach?? How Readest Thou?? What Would Hyam Maccoby Say?? What Would Sherry Shriner Say?? What Would Richard Carrier Say?? What Would John Dominic Crossan Say?? What Would John Shelby Spong Say?? I'd LOVE to witness a four-hour discussion between Richard Carrier and Linda Moulton Howe!! I'm presently recommending the following Minimal-List:

    1. NIV Reader's Bible (without verse-numbering). https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310446619/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    2. SDA Bible Commentary, Volume 4 (Isaiah to Malachi). https://www.amazon.com/SDA-Bible-Commentary-4-Isaiah-Malachi/dp/0828011516/ref=sr_1_22?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1527367280&sr=1-22&keywords=sda+bible+commentary



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    Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers, but whose delight is in the law of the LORD, and who meditates on his law day and night. That person is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither. Whatever they do prospers. Not so the wicked! They are like chaff that the wind blows away. Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous. For the LORD watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.

    Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers band together against the LORD and against his anointed, saying, “Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.” The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them. He rebukes them in his anger and terrifies them in his wrath, saying, “I have installed my king on Zion, my holy mountain.” I will proclaim the LORD’s decree: He said to me, “You are my son; today I have become your father. Ask me, and I will make the nations your inheritance, the ends of the earth your possession. You will break them with a rod of iron; you will dash them to pieces like pottery.” Therefore, you kings, be wise; be warned, you rulers of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear and celebrate his rule with trembling. Kiss his son, or he will be angry and your way will lead to your destruction, for his wrath can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.

    LORD, how many are my foes! How many rise up against me! Many are saying of me, “God will not deliver him.” But you, LORD, are a shield around me, my glory, the One who lifts my head high. I call out to the LORD, and he answers me from his holy mountain. I lie down and sleep; I wake again, because the LORD sustains me. I will not fear though tens of thousands assail me on every side. Arise, LORD! Deliver me, my God! Strike all my enemies on the jaw; break the teeth of the wicked. From the LORD comes deliverance. May your blessing be on your people.

    Answer me when I call to you, my righteous God. Give me relief from my distress; have mercy on me and hear my prayer. How long will you people turn my glory into shame? How long will you love delusions and seek false gods? Know that the LORD has set apart his faithful servant for himself; the LORD hears when I call to him. Tremble and do not sin; when you are on your beds, search your hearts and be silent. Offer the sacrifices of the righteous and trust in the LORD. Many, LORD, are asking, “Who will bring us prosperity?” Let the light of your face shine on us. Fill my heart with joy when their grain and new wine abound. In peace I will lie down and sleep, for you alone, LORD, make me dwell in safety.

    Listen to my words, LORD, consider my lament. Hear my cry for help, my King and my God, for to you I pray. In the morning, LORD, you hear my voice; in the morning I lay my requests before you and wait expectantly. For you are not a God who is pleased with wickedness; with you, evil people are not welcome. The arrogant cannot stand in your presence. You hate all who do wrong; you destroy those who tell lies. The bloodthirsty and deceitful you, LORD, detest. But I, by your great love, can come into your house; in reverence I bow down toward your holy temple. Lead me, LORD, in your righteousness because of my enemies. Make your way straight before me. Not a word from their mouth can be trusted; their heart is filled with malice. Their throat is an open grave; with their tongues they tell lies. Declare them guilty, O God! Let their intrigues be their downfall. Banish them for their many sins, for they have rebelled against you. But let all who take refuge in you be glad; let them ever sing for joy. Spread your protection over them, that those who love your name may rejoice in you. Surely, LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield.  

    LORD, do not rebuke me in your anger or discipline me in your wrath. Have mercy on me, LORD, for I am faint; heal me, LORD, for my bones are in agony. My soul is in deep anguish. How long, LORD, how long? Turn, LORD, and deliver me; save me because of your unfailing love. Among the dead no one proclaims your name. Who praises you from the grave? I am worn out from my groaning. All night long I flood my bed with weeping and drench my couch with tears. My eyes grow weak with sorrow; they fail because of all my foes. Away from me, all you who do evil, for the LORD has heard my weeping. The LORD has heard my cry for mercy; the LORD accepts my prayer. All my enemies will be overwhelmed with shame and anguish; they will turn back and suddenly be put to shame.

    LORD my God, I take refuge in you; save and deliver me from all who pursue me, or they will tear me apart like a lion and rip me to pieces with no one to rescue me. LORD my God, if I have done this and there is guilt on my hands, if I have repaid my ally with evil or without cause have robbed my foe, then let my enemy pursue and overtake me; let him trample my life to the ground and make me sleep in the dust. Arise, LORD, in your anger; rise up against the rage of my enemies. Awake, my God; decree justice. Let the assembled peoples gather around you, while you sit enthroned over them on high. Let the LORD judge the peoples. Vindicate me, LORD, according to my righteousness, according to my integrity, O Most High. Bring to an end the violence of the wicked and make the righteous secure, you, the righteous God who probes minds and hearts. My shield is God Most High, who saves the upright in heart. God is a righteous judge, a God who displays his wrath every day. If he does not relent, he will sharpen his sword; he will bend and string his bow. He has prepared his deadly weapons; he makes ready his flaming arrows. Whoever is pregnant with evil conceives trouble and gives birth to disillusionment. Whoever digs a hole and scoops it out falls into the pit they have made. The trouble they cause recoils on them; their violence comes down on their own heads. I will give thanks to the LORD because of his righteousness; I will sing the praises of the name of the LORD Most High.

    LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! You have set your glory in the heavens. Through the praise of children and infants you have established a stronghold against your enemies, to silence the foe and the avenger. When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place, what is mankind that you are mindful of them, human beings that you care for them? You have made them a little lower than the angels and crowned them with glory and honor. You made them rulers over the works of your hands; you put everything under their feet: all flocks and herds, and the animals of the wild, the birds in the sky, and the fish in the sea, all that swim the paths of the seas. LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth!

    I will give thanks to you, LORD, with all my heart; I will tell of all your wonderful deeds. I will be glad and rejoice in you; I will sing the praises of your name, O Most High. My enemies turn back; they stumble and perish before you. For you have upheld my right and my cause, sitting enthroned as the righteous judge. You have rebuked the nations and destroyed the wicked; you have blotted out their name for ever and ever. Endless ruin has overtaken my enemies, you have uprooted their cities; even the memory of them has perished. The LORD reigns forever; he has established his throne for judgment. He rules the world in righteousness and judges the peoples with equity. The LORD is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble. Those who know your name trust in you, for you, LORD, have never forsaken those who seek you. Sing the praises of the LORD, enthroned in Zion; proclaim among the nations what he has done. For he who avenges blood remembers; he does not ignore the cries of the afflicted. LORD, see how my enemies persecute me! Have mercy and lift me up from the gates of death, that I may declare your praises in the gates of Daughter Zion, and there rejoice in your salvation. The nations have fallen into the pit they have dug; their feet are caught in the net they have hidden. The LORD is known by his acts of justice; the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands. The wicked go down to the realm of the dead, all the nations that forget God. But God will never forget the needy; the hope of the afflicted will never perish. Arise, LORD, do not let mortals triumph; let the nations be judged in your presence. Strike them with terror, LORD; let the nations know they are only mortal.

    Why, LORD, do you stand far off? Why do you hide yourself in times of trouble? In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises. He boasts about the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the LORD. In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God. His ways are always prosperous; your laws are rejected by him; he sneers at all his enemies. He says to himself, “Nothing will ever shake me.” He swears, “No one will ever do me harm.” His mouth is full of lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue. He lies in wait near the villages; from ambush he murders the innocent. His eyes watch in secret for his victims; like a lion in cover he lies in wait. He lies in wait to catch the helpless; he catches the helpless and drags them off in his net. His victims are crushed, they collapse; they fall under his strength. He says to himself, “God will never notice; he covers his face and never sees.” Arise, LORD! Lift up your hand, O God. Do not forget the helpless. Why does the wicked man revile God? Why does he say to himself, “He won’t call me to account”? But you, God, see the trouble of the afflicted; you consider their grief and take it in hand. The victims commit themselves to you; you are the helper of the fatherless. Break the arm of the wicked man; call the evildoer to account for his wickedness that would not otherwise be found out. The LORD is King for ever and ever; the nations will perish from his land. You, LORD, hear the desire of the afflicted; you encourage them, and you listen to their cry, defending the fatherless and the oppressed, so that mere earthly mortals will never again strike terror.

    In the LORD I take refuge. How then can you say to me: “Flee like a bird to your mountain. For look, the wicked bend their bows; they set their arrows against the strings to shoot from the shadows at the upright in heart. When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?” The LORD is in his holy temple; the LORD is on his heavenly throne. He observes everyone on earth; his eyes examine them. The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion. On the wicked he will rain fiery coals and burning sulfur; a scorching wind will be their lot. For the LORD is righteous, he loves justice; the upright will see his face.

    Help, LORD, for no one is faithful anymore; those who are loyal have vanished from the human race. Everyone lies to their neighbor; they flatter with their lips but harbor deception in their hearts. May the LORD silence all flattering lips and every boastful tongue, those who say, “By our tongues we will prevail; our own lips will defend us. Who is lord over us?” “Because the poor are plundered and the needy groan, I will now arise,” says the LORD. “I will protect them from those who malign them.” And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver purified in a crucible, like gold refined seven times. You, LORD, will keep the needy safe and will protect us forever from the wicked, who freely strut about when what is vile is honored by the human race.

    How long, LORD? Will you forget me forever? How long will you hide your face from me? How long must I wrestle with my thoughts and day after day have sorrow in my heart? How long will my enemy triumph over me? Look on me and answer, LORD my God. Give light to my eyes, or I will sleep in death, and my enemy will say, “I have overcome him,” and my foes will rejoice when I fall. But I trust in your unfailing love; my heart rejoices in your salvation. I will sing the LORD’s praise, for he has been good to me.

    The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. The LORD looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one. Do all these evildoers know nothing? They devour my people as though eating bread; they never call on the LORD. But there they are, overwhelmed with dread, for God is present in the company of the righteous. You evildoers frustrate the plans of the poor, but the LORD is their refuge. Oh, that salvation for Israel would come out of Zion! When the LORD restores his people, let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad!

    LORD, who may dwell in your sacred tent? Who may live on your holy mountain? The one whose walk is blameless, who does what is righteous, who speaks the truth from their heart; whose tongue utters no slander, who does no wrong to a neighbor, and casts no slur on others; who despises a vile person but honors those who fear the LORD; who keeps an oath even when it hurts, and does not change their mind; who lends money to the poor without interest; who does not accept a bribe against the innocent. Whoever does these things will never be shaken.

    Keep me safe, my God, for in you I take refuge. I say to the LORD, “You are my Lord; apart from you I have no good thing.” I say of the holy people who are in the land, “They are the noble ones in whom is all my delight.” Those who run after other gods will suffer more and more. I will not pour out libations of blood to such gods or take up their names on my lips. LORD, you alone are my portion and my cup; you make my lot secure. The boundary lines have fallen for me in pleasant places; surely I have a delightful inheritance. I will praise the LORD, who counsels me; even at night my heart instructs me. I keep my eyes always on the LORD. With him at my right hand, I will not be shaken. Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices; my body also will rest secure, because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead, nor will you let your faithful one see decay. You make known to me the path of life; you will fill me with joy in your presence, with eternal pleasures at your right hand.

    Hear me, LORD, my plea is just; listen to my cry. Hear my prayer, it does not rise from deceitful lips. Let my vindication come from you; may your eyes see what is right. Though you probe my heart, though you examine me at night and test me, you will find that I have planned no evil; my mouth has not transgressed. Though people tried to bribe me, I have kept myself from the ways of the violent through what your lips have commanded. My steps have held to your paths; my feet have not stumbled. I call on you, my God, for you will answer me; turn your ear to me and hear my prayer. Show me the wonders of your great love, you who save by your right hand those who take refuge in you from their foes. Keep me as the apple of your eye; hide me in the shadow of your wings from the wicked who are out to destroy me, from my mortal enemies who surround me. They close up their callous hearts, and their mouths speak with arrogance. They have tracked me down, they now surround me, with eyes alert, to throw me to the ground. They are like a lion hungry for prey, like a fierce lion crouching in cover. Rise up, LORD, confront them, bring them down; with your sword rescue me from the wicked. By your hand save me from such people, LORD, from those of this world whose reward is in this life. May what you have stored up for the wicked fill their bellies; may their children gorge themselves on it, and may there be leftovers for their little ones. As for me, I will be vindicated and will see your face; when I awake, I will be satisfied with seeing your likeness.

    I love you, LORD, my strength. The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold. I called to the LORD, who is worthy of praise, and I have been saved from my enemies. The cords of death entangled me; the torrents of destruction overwhelmed me. The cords of the grave coiled around me; the snares of death confronted me. In my distress I called to the LORD; I cried to my God for help. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came before him, into his ears. The earth trembled and quaked, and the foundations of the mountains shook; they trembled because he was angry. Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it. He parted the heavens and came down; dark clouds were under his feet. He mounted the cherubim and flew; he soared on the wings of the wind. He made darkness his covering, his canopy around him, the dark rain clouds of the sky. Out of the brightness of his presence clouds advanced, with hailstones and bolts of lightning. The LORD thundered from heaven; the voice of the Most High resounded. He shot his arrows and scattered the enemy, with great bolts of lightning he routed them. The valleys of the sea were exposed and the foundations of the earth laid bare at your rebuke, LORD, at the blast of breath from your nostrils. He reached down from on high and took hold of me; he drew me out of deep waters. He rescued me from my powerful enemy, from my foes, who were too strong for me. They confronted me in the day of my disaster, but the LORD was my support. He brought me out into a spacious place; he rescued me because he delighted in me.

    The LORD has dealt with me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands he has rewarded me. For I have kept the ways of the LORD; I am not guilty of turning from my God. All his laws are before me; I have not turned away from his decrees. I have been blameless before him and have kept myself from sin. The LORD has rewarded me according to my righteousness, according to the cleanness of my hands in his sight. To the faithful you show yourself faithful, to the blameless you show yourself blameless, to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the devious you show yourself shrewd. You save the humble but bring low those whose eyes are haughty. You, LORD, keep my lamp burning; my God turns my darkness into light. With your help I can advance against a troop; with my God I can scale a wall. As for God, his way is perfect: The LORD’s word is flawless; he shields all who take refuge in him. For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God? It is God who arms me with strength and keeps my way secure. He makes my feet like the feet of a deer; he causes me to stand on the heights. He trains my hands for battle; my arms can bend a bow of bronze. You make your saving help my shield, and your right hand sustains me; your help has made me great. You provide a broad path for my feet, so that my ankles do not give way.

    I pursued my enemies and overtook them; I did not turn back till they were destroyed. I crushed them so that they could not rise; they fell beneath my feet. You armed me with strength for battle; you humbled my adversaries before me. You made my enemies turn their backs in flight, and I destroyed my foes. They cried for help, but there was no one to save them, to the LORD, but he did not answer. I beat them as fine as windblown dust; I trampled them like mud in the streets. You have delivered me from the attacks of the people; you have made me the head of nations. People I did not know now serve me, foreigners cower before me; as soon as they hear of me, they obey me. They all lose heart; they come trembling from their strongholds. The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God my Savior! He is the God who avenges me, who subdues nations under me, who saves me from my enemies. You exalted me above my foes; from a violent man you rescued me. Therefore I will praise you, LORD, among the nations; I will sing the praises of your name. He gives his king great victories; he shows unfailing love to his anointed, to David and to his descendants forever.

    The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge. They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them. Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun. It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, like a champion rejoicing to run his course. It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other; nothing is deprived of its warmth. The law of the LORD is perfect, refreshing the soul. The statutes of the LORD are trustworthy, making wise the simple. The precepts of the LORD are right, giving joy to the heart. The commands of the LORD are radiant, giving light to the eyes. The fear of the LORD is pure, enduring forever. The decrees of the LORD are firm, and all of them are righteous. They are more precious than gold, than much pure gold; they are sweeter than honey, than honey from the honeycomb. By them your servant is warned; in keeping them there is great reward. But who can discern their own errors? Forgive my hidden faults. Keep your servant also from willful sins; may they not rule over me. Then I will be blameless, innocent of great transgression. May these words of my mouth and this meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.

    May the LORD answer you when you are in distress; may the name of the God of Jacob protect you. May he send you help from the sanctuary and grant you support from Zion. May he remember all your sacrifices and accept your burnt offerings. May he give you the desire of your heart and make all your plans succeed. May we shout for joy over your victory and lift up our banners in the name of our God. May the LORD grant all your requests. Now this I know: The LORD gives victory to his anointed. He answers him from his heavenly sanctuary with the victorious power of his right hand. Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God. They are brought to their knees and fall, but we rise up and stand firm. LORD, give victory to the king! Answer us when we call!

    The king rejoices in your strength, LORD. How great is his joy in the victories you give! You have granted him his heart’s desire and have not withheld the request of his lips. You came to greet him with rich blessings and placed a crown of pure gold on his head. He asked you for life, and you gave it to him, length of days, for ever and ever. Through the victories you gave, his glory is great; you have bestowed on him splendor and majesty. Surely you have granted him unending blessings and made him glad with the joy of your presence. For the king trusts in the LORD; through the unfailing love of the Most High he will not be shaken. Your hand will lay hold on all your enemies; your right hand will seize your foes. When you appear for battle, you will burn them up as in a blazing furnace. The LORD will swallow them up in his wrath, and his fire will consume them. You will destroy their descendants from the earth, their posterity from mankind. Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed. You will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow. Be exalted in your strength, LORD; we will sing and praise your might.

    My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from my cries of anguish? My God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, by night, but I find no rest. Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One; you are the one Israel praises. In you our ancestors put their trust; they trusted and you delivered them. To you they cried out and were saved; in you they trusted and were not put to shame. But I am a worm and not a man, scorned by everyone, despised by the people. All who see me mock me; they hurl insults, shaking their heads. “He trusts in the LORD,” they say, “let the LORD rescue him. Let him deliver him, since he delights in him.” Yet you brought me out of the womb; you made me trust in you, even at my mother’s breast. From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God. Do not be far from me, for trouble is near and there is no one to help. Many bulls surround me; strong bulls of Bashan encircle me. Roaring lions that tear their prey open their mouths wide against me. I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint. My heart has turned to wax; it has melted within me. My mouth is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth; you lay me in the dust of death. Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet. All my bones are on display; people stare and gloat over me. They divide my clothes among them and cast lots for my garment.

    But you, LORD, do not be far from me. You are my strength; come quickly to help me. Deliver me from the sword, my precious life from the power of the dogs. Rescue me from the mouth of the lions; save me from the horns of the wild oxen. I will declare your name to my people; in the assembly I will praise you. You who fear the LORD, praise him! All you descendants of Jacob, honor him! Revere him, all you descendants of Israel! For he has not despised or scorned the suffering of the afflicted one; he has not hidden his face from him but has listened to his cry for help. From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly; before those who fear you I will fulfill my vows. The poor will eat and be satisfied; those who seek the LORD will praise him, may your hearts live forever! All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD, and all the families of the nations will bow down before him, for dominion belongs to the LORD and he rules over the nations. All the rich of the earth will feast and worship; all who go down to the dust will kneel before him, those who cannot keep themselves alive. Posterity will serve him; future generations will be told about the Lord. They will proclaim his righteousness, declaring to a people yet unborn: He has done it!

    The LORD is my shepherd, I lack nothing. He makes me lie down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters, he refreshes my soul. He guides me along the right paths for his name’s sake. Even though I walk through the darkest valley,I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me. You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows. Surely your goodness and love will follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the house of the LORD forever.

    The earth is the LORD’s, and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it; for he founded it on the seas and established it on the waters. Who may ascend the mountain of the LORD? Who may stand in his holy place? The one who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not trust in an idol or swear by a false god. They will receive blessing from the LORD and vindication from God their Savior. Such is the generation of those who seek him, who seek your face, God of Jacob. Lift up your heads, you gates; be lifted up, you ancient doors, that the King of glory may come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, you gates; lift them up, you ancient doors, that the King of glory may come in. Who is he, this King of glory? The LORD Almighty, he is the King of glory.

    In you, LORD my God, I put my trust. I trust in you; do not let me be put to shame, nor let my enemies triumph over me. No one who hopes in you will ever be put to shame, but shame will come on those who are treacherous without cause. Show me your ways, LORD, teach me your paths. Guide me in your truth and teach me, for you are God my Savior, and my hope is in you all day long. Remember, LORD, your great mercy and love, for they are from of old. Do not remember the sins of my youth and my rebellious ways; according to your love remember me, for you, LORD, are good. Good and upright is the LORD; therefore he instructs sinners in his ways. He guides the humble in what is right and teaches them his way. All the ways of the LORD are loving and faithful toward those who keep the demands of his covenant. For the sake of your name, LORD, forgive my iniquity, though it is great. Who, then, are those who fear the LORD? He will instruct them in the ways they should choose. They will spend their days in prosperity, and their descendants will inherit the land. The LORD confides in those who fear him; he makes his covenant known to them. My eyes are ever on the LORD, for only he will release my feet from the snare.  Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Relieve the troubles of my heart and free me from my anguish. Look on my affliction and my distress and take away all my sins. See how numerous are my enemies and how fiercely they hate me! Guard my life and rescue me; do not let me be put to shame, for I take refuge in you. May integrity and uprightness protect me, because my hope, LORD, is in you. Deliver Israel, O God, from all their troubles!

    Vindicate me, LORD, for I have led a blameless life; I have trusted in the LORD and have not faltered. Test me, LORD, and try me, examine my heart and my mind; for I have always been mindful of your unfailing love and have lived in reliance on your faithfulness. I do not sit with the deceitful, nor do I associate with hypocrites. I abhor the assembly of evildoers and refuse to sit with the wicked. I wash my hands in innocence, and go about your altar, LORD, proclaiming aloud your praise and telling of all your wonderful deeds. LORD, I love the house where you live, the place where your glory dwells. Do not take away my soul along with sinners, my life with those who are bloodthirsty, in whose hands are wicked schemes, whose right hands are full of bribes. I lead a blameless life; deliver me and be merciful to me. My feet stand on level ground; in the great congregation I will praise the LORD.

    The LORD is my light and my salvation! Whom shall I fear? The LORD is the strength of my life! Who shall frighten me? When the wicked advance against me to devour me, it is my enemies and my foes who will stumble and fall. Though an army besiege me, my heart will not fear; though war break out against me, even then I will be confident. One thing I ask from the LORD, this only do I seek: that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to gaze on the beauty of the LORD and to seek him in his temple. For in the day of trouble he will keep me safe in his dwelling; he will hide me in the shelter of his sacred tent and set me high upon a rock. Then my head will be exalted above the enemies who surround me; at his sacred tent I will sacrifice with shouts of joy; I will sing and make music to the LORD. Hear my voice when I call, LORD; be merciful to me and answer me. My heart says of you, “Seek his face!” Your face, LORD, I will seek. Do not hide your face from me, do not turn your servant away in anger; you have been my helper. Do not reject me or forsake me, God my Savior. Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me. Teach me your way, LORD; lead me in a straight path because of my oppressors. Do not turn me over to the desire of my foes, for false witnesses rise up against me, spouting malicious accusations. I remain confident of this: I will see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living. Wait for the LORD; be strong and take heart and wait for the LORD.

    To you, LORD, I call; you are my Rock, do not turn a deaf ear to me. For if you remain silent, I will be like those who go down to the pit. Hear my cry for mercy as I call to you for help, as I lift up my hands toward your Most Holy Place. Do not drag me away with the wicked, with those who do evil, who speak cordially with their neighbors but harbor malice in their hearts. Repay them for their deeds and for their evil work; repay them for what their hands have done and bring back on them what they deserve. Because they have no regard for the deeds of the LORD and what his hands have done, he will tear them down and never build them up again. Praise be to the LORD, for he has heard my cry for mercy. The LORD is my strength and my shield; my heart trusts in him, and he helps me. My heart leaps for joy, and with my song I praise him. The LORD is the strength of his people, a fortress of salvation for his anointed one. Save your people and bless your inheritance; be their shepherd and carry them forever.

    Ascribe to the LORD, you heavenly beings, ascribe to the LORD glory and strength. Ascribe to the LORD the glory due his name; worship the LORD in the splendor of his holiness. The voice of the LORD is over the waters; the God of glory thunders, the LORD thunders over the mighty waters. The voice of the LORD is powerful; the voice of the LORD is majestic. The voice of the LORD breaks the cedars; the LORD breaks in pieces the cedars of Lebanon. He makes Lebanon leap like a calf, Sirion like a young wild ox. The voice of the LORD strikes with flashes of lightning. The voice of the LORD shakes the desert; the LORD shakes the Desert of Kadesh. The voice of the LORD twists the oaksand strips the forests bare. And in his temple all cry, “Glory!” The LORD sits enthroned over the flood; the LORD is enthroned as King forever. The LORD gives strength to his people; the LORD blesses his people with peace.

    I will exalt you, LORD, for you lifted me out of the depths and did not let my enemies gloat over me. LORD my God, I called to you for help, and you healed me. You, LORD, brought me up from the realm of the dead; you spared me from going down to the pit. Sing the praises of the LORD, you his faithful people; praise his holy name. For his anger lasts only a moment, but his favor lasts a lifetime; weeping may stay for the night, but rejoicing comes in the morning. When I felt secure, I said, “I will never be shaken.”  LORD, when you favored me, you made my royal mountain stand firm; but when you hid your face, I was dismayed. To you, LORD, I called; to the Lord I cried for mercy: “What is gained if I am silenced, if I go down to the pit? Will the dust praise you? Will it proclaim your faithfulness? Hear, LORD, and be merciful to me; LORD, be my help.” You turned my wailing into dancing; you removed my sackcloth and clothed me with joy, that my heart may sing your praises and not be silent. LORD my God, I will praise you forever.

    In you, LORD, I have taken refuge; let me never be put to shame; deliver me in your righteousness. Turn your ear to me, come quickly to my rescue; be my rock of refuge, a strong fortress to save me. Since you are my rock and my fortress, for the sake of your name lead and guide me. Keep me free from the trap that is set for me, for you are my refuge. Into your hands I commit my spirit; deliver me, LORD, my faithful God. I hate those who cling to worthless idols; as for me, I trust in the LORD. I will be glad and rejoice in your love, for you saw my affliction and knew the anguish of my soul. You have not given me into the hands of the enemy but have set my feet in a spacious place.  Be merciful to me, LORD, for I am in distress; my eyes grow weak with sorrow, my soul and body with grief. My life is consumed by anguish and my years by groaning; my strength fails because of my affliction, and my bones grow weak. Because of all my enemies, I am the utter contempt of my neighbors and an object of dread to my closest friends, those who see me on the street flee from me. I am forgotten as though I were dead; I have become like broken pottery. For I hear many whispering, “Terror on every side!”

    They conspire against me and plot to take my life. But I trust in you, LORD; I say, “You are my God.” My times are in your hands; deliver me from the hands of my enemies, from those who pursue me. Let your face shine on your servant; save me in your unfailing love. Let me not be put to shame, LORD, for I have cried out to you; but let the wicked be put to shame and be silent in the realm of the dead. Let their lying lips be silenced, for with pride and contempt they speak arrogantly against the righteous. How abundant are the good things that you have stored up for those who fear you, that you bestow in the sight of all, on those who take refuge in you. In the shelter of your presence you hide them from all human intrigues; you keep them safe in your dwelling from accusing tongues. Praise be to the LORD, for he showed me the wonders of his love when I was in a city under siege. In my alarm I said, “I am cut off from your sight!” Yet you heard my cry for mercy when I called to you for help. Love the LORD, all his faithful people! The LORD preserves those who are true to him, but the proud he pays back in full. Be strong and take heart, all you who hope in the LORD.

    Blessed is the one whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the one whose sin the LORD does not count against them and in whose spirit is no deceit. When I kept silent, my bones wasted away through my groaning all day long. For day and night your hand was heavy on me; my strength was sapped as in the heat of summer. Then I acknowledged my sin to you and did not cover up my iniquity. I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the LORD.” And you forgave the guilt of my sin. Therefore let all the faithful pray to you while you may be found; surely the rising of the mighty waters will not reach them. You are my hiding place; you will protect me from trouble and surround me with songs of deliverance. I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go; I will counsel you with my loving eye on you. Do not be like the horse or the mule, which have no understanding but must be controlled by bit and bridle or they will not come to you. Many are the woes of the wicked, but the LORD’s unfailing love surrounds the one who trusts in him. Rejoice in the LORD and be glad, you righteous; sing, all you who are upright in heart!

    Sing joyfully to the LORD, you righteous; it is fitting for the upright to praise him. Praise the LORD with the harp; make music to him on the ten-stringed lyre. Sing to him a new song; play skillfully, and shout for joy. For the word of the LORD is right and true; he is faithful in all he does. The LORD loves righteousness and justice; the earth is full of his unfailing love. By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth. He gathers the waters of the sea into jars; he puts the deep into storehouses. Let all the earth fear the LORD; let all the people of the world revere him. For he spoke, and it came to be; he commanded, and it stood firm. The LORD foils the plans of the nations; he thwarts the purposes of the peoples. But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever, the purposes of his heart through all generations. Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people he chose for his inheritance. From heaven the LORD looks down and sees all mankind; from his dwelling place he watches all who live on earth, he who forms the hearts of all, who considers everything they do. No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his great strength. A horse is a vain hope for deliverance; despite all its great strength it cannot save. But the eyes of the LORD are on those who fear him, on those whose hope is in his unfailing love, to deliver them from death and keep them alive in famine. We wait in hope for the LORD; he is our help and our shield. In him our hearts rejoice, for we trust in his holy name. May your unfailing love be with us, LORD, even as we put our hope in you.

    I will extol the LORD at all times; his praise will always be on my lips. I will glory in the LORD; let the afflicted hear and rejoice. Glorify the LORD with me; let us exalt his name together. I sought the LORD, and he answered me; he delivered me from all my fears. Those who look to him are radiant; their faces are never covered with shame. This poor man called, and the LORD heard him; he saved him out of all his troubles. 7 The angel of the LORD encamps around those who fear him, and he delivers them. Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him. Fear the LORD, you his holy people, for those who fear him lack nothing. The lions may grow weak and hungry, but those who seek the LORD lack no good thing. Come, my children, listen to me; I will teach you the fear of the LORD. Whoever of you loves life and desires to see many good days, keep your tongue from evil and your lips from telling lies. Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it. The eyes of the LORD are on the righteous, and his ears are attentive to their cry; but the face of the LORD is against those who do evil, to blot out their name from the earth. The righteous cry out, and the LORD hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles. The LORD is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. The righteous person may have many troubles, but the LORD delivers him from them all; he protects all his bones, not one of them will be broken. Evil will slay the wicked; the foes of the righteous will be condemned. The LORD will rescue his servants; no one who takes refuge in him will be condemned.

    Contend, LORD, with those who contend with me; fight against those who fight against me. Take up shield and armor; arise and come to my aid. Brandish spear and javelin against those who pursue me. Say to me, “I am your salvation.” May those who seek my life be disgraced and put to shame; may those who plot my ruin be turned back in dismay. May they be like chaff before the wind, with the angel of the LORD driving them away; may their path be dark and slippery, with the angel of the LORD pursuing them. Since they hid their net for me without cause and without cause dug a pit for me, may ruin overtake them by surprise, may the net they hid entangle them, may they fall into the pit, to their ruin. Then my soul will rejoice in the LORD and delight in his salvation. My whole being will exclaim, “Who is like you, LORD? You rescue the poor from those too strong for them, the poor and needy from those who rob them.” Ruthless witnesses come forward; they question me on things I know nothing about. They repay me evil for good and leave me like one bereaved. Yet when they were ill, I put on sackcloth and humbled myself with fasting. When my prayers returned to me unanswered, I went about mourning as though for my friend or brother. I bowed my head in grief as though weeping for my mother.

    But when I stumbled, they gathered in glee; assailants gathered against me without my knowledge. They slandered me without ceasing. Like the ungodly they maliciously mocked;they gnashed their teeth at me. How long, Lord, will you look on? Rescue me from their ravages, my precious life from these lions. I will give you thanks in the great assembly; among the throngs I will praise you. Do not let those gloat over me who are my enemies without cause; do not let those who hate me without reason maliciously wink the eye. They do not speak peaceably, but devise false accusations against those who live quietly in the land. They sneer at me and say, “Aha! Aha! With our own eyes we have seen it.” LORD, you have seen this; do not be silent. Do not be far from me, Lord. Awake, and rise to my defense! Contend for me, my God and Lord. Vindicate me in your righteousness, LORD my God; do not let them gloat over me. Do not let them think, “Aha, just what we wanted!” or say, “We have swallowed him up.” May all who gloat over my distress be put to shame and confusion; may all who exalt themselves over me be clothed with shame and disgrace. May those who delight in my vindication shout for joy and gladness; may they always say, “The LORD be exalted, who delights in the well-being of his servant.” My tongue will proclaim your righteousness, your praises all day long.

    I have a message from God in my heart concerning the sinfulness of the wicked:There is no fear of God before their eyes. In their own eyes they flatter themselves too much to detect or hate their sin. The words of their mouths are wicked and deceitful; they fail to act wisely or do good. Even on their beds they plot evil; they commit themselves to a sinful course and do not reject what is wrong. Your love, LORD, reaches to the heavens, your faithfulness to the skies. Your righteousness is like the highest mountains, your justice like the great deep. You, LORD, preserve both people and animals. How priceless is your unfailing love, O God! People take refuge in the shadow of your wings. They feast on the abundance of your house; you give them drink from your river of delights. For with you is the fountain of life; in your light we see light. Continue your love to those who know you, your righteousness to the upright in heart. May the foot of the proud not come against me, nor the hand of the wicked drive me away. See how the evildoers lie fallen, thrown down, not able to rise!

    Do not fret because of those who are evil or be envious of those who do wrong; for like the grass they will soon wither, like green plants they will soon die away. Trust in the LORD and do good; dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture. Take delight in the LORD, and he will give you the desires of your heart. Commit your way to the LORD; trust in him and he will do this: He will make your righteous reward shine like the dawn, your vindication like the noonday sun. Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him; do not fret when people succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes. Refrain from anger and turn from wrath. Do not fret. It leads only to evil. For those who are evil will be destroyed, but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land. A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found. But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy peace and prosperity. The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them; but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming. The wicked draw the sword and bend the bow to bring down the poor and needy, to slay those whose ways are upright. But their swords will pierce their own hearts, and their bows will be broken. Better the little that the righteous have than the wealth of many wicked; for the power of the wicked will be broken, but the LORD upholds the righteous. The blameless spend their days under the LORD’s care, and their inheritance will endure forever. In times of disaster they will not wither; in days of famine they will enjoy plenty.

    But the wicked will perish: Though the LORD’s enemies are like the flowers of the field, they will be consumed, they will go up in smoke. The wicked borrow and do not repay, but the righteous give generously; those the LORD blesses will inherit the land, but those he curses will be destroyed. The LORD makes firm the steps of the one who delights in him; though he may stumble, he will not fall, for the LORD upholds him with his hand. I was young and now I am old, yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken or their children begging bread. They are always generous and lend freely; their children will be a blessing. Turn from evil and do good; then you will dwell in the land forever. For the LORD loves the just and will not forsake his faithful ones. Wrongdoers will be completely destroyed; the offspring of the wicked will perish. The righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it forever. The mouths of the righteous utter wisdom, and their tongues speak what is just. The law of their God is in their hearts; their feet do not slip. The wicked lie in wait for the righteous, intent on putting them to death; but the LORD will not leave them in the power of the wicked or let them be condemned when brought to trial. Hope in the LORD and keep his way. He will exalt you to inherit the land; when the wicked are destroyed, you will see it. I have seen a wicked and ruthless man flourishing like a luxuriant native tree, but he soon passed away and was no more; though I looked for him, he could not be found. Consider the blameless, observe the upright; a future awaits those who seek peace. But all sinners will be destroyed; there will be no future for the wicked. The salvation of the righteous comes from the LORD; he is their stronghold in time of trouble. The LORD helps them and delivers them; he delivers them from the wicked and saves them, because they take refuge in him.

    LORD, do not rebuke me in your anger or discipline me in your wrath. Your arrows have pierced me, and your hand has come down on me. Because of your wrath there is no health in my body; there is no soundness in my bones because of my sin. My guilt has overwhelmed me like a burden too heavy to bear. My wounds fester and are loathsome because of my sinful folly. I am bowed down and brought very low; all day long I go about mourning. My back is filled with searing pain; there is no health in my body. I am feeble and utterly crushed; I groan in anguish of heart. All my longings lie open before you, Lord; my sighing is not hidden from you. My heart pounds, my strength fails me; even the light has gone from my eyes. My friends and companions avoid me because of my wounds; my neighbors stay far away. Those who want to kill me set their traps, those who would harm me talk of my ruin; all day long they scheme and lie. I am like the deaf, who cannot hear, like the mute, who cannot speak; I have become like one who does not hear, whose mouth can offer no reply. LORD, I wait for you; you will answer, Lord my God. For I said, “Do not let them gloat or exalt themselves over me when my feet slip.” For I am about to fall, and my pain is ever with me. I confess my iniquity; I am troubled by my sin. Many have become my enemies without cause; those who hate me without reason are numerous. Those who repay my good with evil lodge accusations against me, though I seek only to do what is good. LORD, do not forsake me; do not be far from me, my God. Come quickly to help me, my Lord and my Savior.

    I said, “I will watch my ways and keep my tongue from sin; I will put a muzzle on my mouth while in the presence of the wicked.” So I remained utterly silent, not even saying anything good. But my anguish increased; my heart grew hot within me. While I meditated, the fire burned; then I spoke with my tongue: “Show me, LORD, my life’s end and the number of my days; let me know how fleeting my life is. You have made my days a mere handbreadth; the span of my years is as nothing before you. Everyone is but a breath, even those who seem secure. “Surely everyone goes around like a mere phantom; in vain they rush about, heaping up wealth without knowing whose it will finally be. “But now, Lord, what do I look for? My hope is in you. Save me from all my transgressions; do not make me the scorn of fools. I was silent; I would not open my mouth, for you are the one who has done this. Remove your scourge from me; I am overcome by the blow of your hand. When you rebuke and discipline anyone for their sin, you consume their wealth like a moth. Surely everyone is but a breath. “Hear my prayer, LORD, listen to my cry for help; do not be deaf to my weeping. I dwell with you as a foreigner, a stranger, as all my ancestors were. Look away from me, that I may enjoy life again before I depart and am no more.”

    I waited patiently for the LORD; he turned to me and heard my cry. He lifted me out of the slimy pit, out of the mud and mire; he set my feet on a rock and gave me a firm place to stand. He put a new song in my mouth, a hymn of praise to our God. Many will see and fear the LORD and put their trust in him. Blessed is the one who trusts in the LORD, who does not look to the proud, to those who turn aside to false gods. Many, LORD my God, are the wonders you have done, the things you planned for us. None can compare with you; were I to speak and tell of your deeds, they would be too many to declare. Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but my ears you have opened. Burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require. Then I said, “Here I am, I have come, it is written about me in the scroll. I desire to do your will, my God; your law is within my heart.” I proclaim your saving acts in the great assembly; I do not seal my lips, LORD, as you know. I do not hide your righteousness in my heart; I speak of your faithfulness and your saving help. I do not conceal your love and your faithfulness from the great assembly. Do not withhold your mercy from me, LORD; may your love and faithfulness always protect me. For troubles without number surround me; my sins have overtaken me, and I cannot see. They are more than the hairs of my head, and my heart fails within me. Be pleased to save me, LORD; come quickly, LORD, to help me. May all who want to take my life be put to shame and confusion; may all who desire my ruin be turned back in disgrace. May those who say to me, “Aha! Aha!” be appalled at their own shame. But may all who seek you rejoice and be glad in you; may those who long for your saving help always say, “The LORD is great!” But as for me, I am poor and needy; may the Lord think of me. You are my help and my deliverer; you are my God, do not delay.

    Blessed are those who have regard for the weak; the LORD delivers them in times of trouble. The LORD protects and preserves them. They are counted among the blessed in the land. He does not give them over to the desire of their foes. The LORD sustains them on their sickbed and restores them from their bed of illness. I said, “Have mercy on me, LORD; heal me, for I have sinned against you.” My enemies say of me in malice, “When will he die and his name perish?” When one of them comes to see me, he speaks falsely, while his heart gathers slander; then he goes out and spreads it around. All my enemies whisper together against me; they imagine the worst for me, saying, “A vile disease has afflicted him; he will never get up from the place where he lies.” Even my close friend, someone I trusted, one who shared my bread, has turned against me. But may you have mercy on me, LORD; raise me up, that I may repay them. I know that you are pleased with me, for my enemy does not triumph over me. Because of my integrity you uphold me and set me in your presence forever. Praise be to the LORD, the God of Israel, from everlasting to everlasting. Amen and Amen.

    As the deer pants for streams of water, so my soul pants for you, my God. My soul thirsts for God, for the living God. When can I go and meet with God? My tears have been my food day and night, while people say to me all day long, “Where is your God?” These things I remember as I pour out my soul: how I used to go to the house of God under the protection of the Mighty Onewith shouts of joy and praise among the festive throng. Why, my soul, are you downcast? Why so disturbed within me? Put your hope in God, for I will yet praise him, my Savior and my God. My soul is downcast within me; therefore I will remember you from the land of the Jordan, the heights of Hermon, from Mount Mizar. Deep calls to deep in the roar of your waterfalls; all your waves and breakers have swept over me. By day the LORD directs his love, at night his song is with me, a prayer to the God of my life. I say to God my Rock, “Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?” My bones suffer mortal agony as my foes taunt me, saying to me all day long, “Where is your God?” Why, my soul, are you downcast? Why so disturbed within me? Put your hope in God, for I will yet praise him, my Savior and my God.

    Vindicate me, my God, and plead my cause against an unfaithful nation. Rescue me from those who are deceitful and wicked. You are God my stronghold. Why have you rejected me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy? Send me your light and your faithful care, let them lead me; let them bring me to your holy mountain, to the place where you dwell. Then I will go to the altar of God, to God, my joy and my delight. I will praise you with the lyre, O God, my God. Why, my soul, are you downcast? Why so disturbed within me? Put your hope in God, for I will yet praise him, my Savior and my God.

    We have heard it with our ears, O God; our ancestors have told us what you did in their days, in days long ago. With your hand you drove out the nations and planted our ancestors; you crushed the peoples and made our ancestors flourish. It was not by their sword that they won the land, nor did their arm bring them victory; it was your right hand, your arm, and the light of your face, for you loved them. You are my King and my God, who decrees victories for Jacob. Through you we push back our enemies; through your name we trample our foes. I put no trust in my bow, my sword does not bring me victory; but you give us victory over our enemies, you put our adversaries to shame. In God we make our boast all day long, and we will praise your name forever. But now you have rejected and humbled us; you no longer go out with our armies. You made us retreat before the enemy, and our adversaries have plundered us. You gave us up to be devoured like sheep and have scattered us among the nations. You sold your people for a pittance, gaining nothing from their sale. You have made us a reproach to our neighbors, the scorn and derision of those around us. You have made us a byword among the nations; the peoples shake their heads at us.

    I live in disgrace all day long, and my face is covered with shame at the taunts of those who reproach and revile me, because of the enemy, who is bent on revenge. All this came upon us, though we had not forgotten you; we had not been false to your covenant. Our hearts had not turned back; our feet had not strayed from your path. But you crushed us and made us a haunt for jackals; you covered us over with deep darkness. If we had forgotten the name of our God or spread out our hands to a foreign god, would not God have discovered it, since he knows the secrets of the heart? Yet for your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered. Awake, Lord! Why do you sleep? Rouse yourself! Do not reject us forever. Why do you hide your face and forget our misery and oppression? We are brought down to the dust; our bodies cling to the ground. Rise up and help us; rescue us because of your unfailing love.

    My heart is stirred by a noble theme as I recite my verses for the king; my tongue is the pen of a skillful writer. You are the most excellent of men and your lips have been anointed with grace, since God has blessed you forever. Gird your sword on your side, you mighty one; clothe yourself with splendor and majesty. In your majesty ride forth victoriously in the cause of truth, humility and justice; let your right hand achieve awesome deeds. Let your sharp arrows pierce the hearts of the king’s enemies; let the nations fall beneath your feet. Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy. All your robes are fragrant with myrrh and aloes and cassia; from palaces adorned with ivory the music of the strings makes you glad. Daughters of kings are among your honored women; at your right hand is the royal bride in gold of Ophir. Listen, daughter, and pay careful attention: Forget your people and your father’s house. Let the king be enthralled by your beauty; honor him, for he is your lord. The city of Tyre will come with a gift, people of wealth will seek your favor. All glorious is the princess within her chamber; her gown is interwoven with gold. In embroidered garments she is led to the king; her virgin companions follow her, those brought to be with her. Led in with joy and gladness, they enter the palace of the king. Your sons will take the place of your fathers; you will make them princes throughout the land. I will perpetuate your memory through all generations; therefore the nations will praise you for ever and ever.

    God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam and the mountains quake with their surging. There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, the holy place where the Most High dwells. God is within her, she will not fall; God will help her at break of day. Nations are in uproar, kingdoms fall; he lifts his voice, the earth melts. The LORD Almighty is with us; the God of Jacob is our fortress. Come and see what the LORD has done, the desolations he has brought on the earth. He makes wars cease to the ends of the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the spear; he burns the shields with fire. He says, “Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.” The LORD Almighty is with us; the God of Jacob is our fortress.

    Clap your hands, all you nations; shout to God with cries of joy. For the LORD Most High is awesome, the great King over all the earth. He subdued nations under us, peoples under our feet. He chose our inheritance for us, the pride of Jacob, whom he loved. God has ascended amid shouts of joy, the LORD amid the sounding of trumpets. Sing praises to God, sing praises; sing praises to our King, sing praises. For God is the King of all the earth; sing to him a psalm of praise. God reigns over the nations; God is seated on his holy throne. The nobles of the nations assemble as the people of the God of Abraham, for the kings of the earth belong to God; he is greatly exalted.




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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

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    I recently met an individual who reminded me of John Denver!! You don't suppose?! Nah. I recently stated that we had a dog named 'Flash' which looked similar to Queen Victoria's 'Dash'!! I had completely-forgotten that I've owned German Shepherds named 'Princess' and 'Queenie'!! An individual who I knew nothing about, made me think they might've been a debater, and I recently learned they had a name similar to an Australian theologian I've featured in my threads!! Another individual who I've thought might be angelic, recently was with a partner who was wearing a jacket with 'angel-wings'!! Strange.

    Great is the LORD, and most worthy of praise, in the city of our God, his holy mountain. Beautiful in its loftiness, the joy of the whole earth, like the heights of Zaphon is Mount Zion, the city of the Great King. God is in her citadels; he has shown himself to be her fortress. When the kings joined forces, when they advanced together, they saw her and were astounded; they fled in terror. Trembling seized them there, pain like that of a woman in labor. You destroyed them like ships of Tarshish shattered by an east wind. As we have heard, so we have seen in the city of the LORD Almighty, in the city of our God: God makes her secure forever. Within your temple, O God, we meditate on your unfailing love. Like your name, O God, your praise reaches to the ends of the earth; your right hand is filled with righteousness. Mount Zion rejoices, the villages of Judah are glad because of your judgments. Walk about Zion, go around her, count her towers, consider well her ramparts, view her citadels, that you may tell of them to the next generation. For this God is our God for ever and ever; he will be our guide even to the end.

    Hear this, all you peoples; listen, all who live in this world, both low and high, rich and poor alike: My mouth will speak words of wisdom; the meditation of my heart will give you understanding. I will turn my ear to a proverb; with the harp I will expound my riddle: Why should I fear when evil days come, when wicked deceivers surround me, those who trust in their wealth and boast of their great riches? No one can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for them. The ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough, so that they should live on forever and not see decay. For all can see that the wise die, that the foolish and the senseless also perish, leaving their wealth to others. Their tombs will remain their houses forever, their dwellings for endless generations, though they had named lands after themselves. People, despite their wealth, do not endure; they are like the beasts that perish. This is the fate of those who trust in themselves, and of their followers, who approve their sayings. They are like sheep and are destined to die; death will be their shepherd (but the upright will prevail over them in the morning). Their forms will decay in the grave, far from their princely mansions. But God will redeem me from the realm of the dead; he will surely take me to himself. Do not be overawed when others grow rich, when the splendor of their houses increases; for they will take nothing with them when they die, their splendor will not descend with them. Though while they live they count themselves blessed, and people praise you when you prosper, they will join those who have gone before them, who will never again see the light of life. People who have wealth but lack understanding are like the beasts that perish.

    The Mighty One, God, the LORD, speaks and summons the earth from the rising of the sun to where it sets. From Zion, perfect in beauty, God shines forth. Our God comes and will not be silent; a fire devours before him, and around him a tempest rages. He summons the heavens above, and the earth, that he may judge his people: “Gather to me this consecrated people, who made a covenant with me by sacrifice.” And the heavens proclaim his righteousness, for he is a God of justice. “Listen, my people, and I will speak; I will testify against you, Israel: I am God, your God. I bring no charges against you concerning your sacrifices or concerning your burnt offerings, which are ever before me. I have no need of a bull from your stall or of goats from your pens, for every animal of the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills. I know every bird in the mountains, and the insects in the fields are mine. If I were hungry I would not tell you, for the world is mine, and all that is in it. Do I eat the flesh of bulls or drink the blood of goats? “Sacrifice thank offerings to God, fulfill your vows to the Most High, and call on me in the day of trouble; I will deliver you, and you will honor me.” But to the wicked person, God says: “What right have you to recite my laws or take my covenant on your lips? You hate my instruction and cast my words behind you. When you see a thief, you join with him; you throw in your lot with adulterers. You use your mouth for evil and harness your tongue to deceit. You sit and testify against your brother and slander your own mother’s son. When you did these things and I kept silent, you thought I was exactly like you. But I now arraign you and set my accusations before you. "Consider this, you who forget God, or I will tear you to pieces, with no one to rescue you: Those who sacrifice thank offerings honor me, and to the blameless I will show my salvation.”

    Have mercy on me, O God, according to your unfailing love; according to your great compassion blot out my transgressions. Wash away all my iniquity and cleanse me from my sin. For I know my transgressions, and my sin is always before me. Against you, you only, have I sinned and done what is evil in your sight; so you are right in your verdict and justified when you judge. Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me. Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place. Cleanse me with hyssop, and I will be clean; wash me, and I will be whiter than snow. Let me hear joy and gladness; let the bones you have crushed rejoice. Hide your face from my sins and blot out all my iniquity. Create in me a pure heart, O God, and renew a steadfast spirit within me. Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me. Restore to me the joy of your salvation and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me. Then I will teach transgressors your ways, so that sinners will turn back to you. Deliver me from the guilt of bloodshed, O God, you who are God my Savior, and my tongue will sing of your righteousness. Open my lips, Lord, and my mouth will declare your praise. You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise. May it please you to prosper Zion, to build up the walls of Jerusalem. Then you will delight in the sacrifices of the righteous, in burnt offerings offered whole; then bulls will be offered on your altar.

    Why do you boast of evil, you mighty hero? Why do you boast all day long, you who are a disgrace in the eyes of God? You who practice deceit, your tongue plots destruction; it is like a sharpened razor. You love evil rather than good, falsehood rather than speaking the truth. You love every harmful word, you deceitful tongue! Surely God will bring you down to everlasting ruin: He will snatch you up and pluck you from your tent; he will uproot you from the land of the living. The righteous will see and fear; they will laugh at you, saying, “Here now is the man who did not make God his stronghold but trusted in his great wealth and grew strong by destroying others!” But I am like an olive tree flourishing in the house of God; I trust in God’s unfailing love for ever and ever. For what you have done I will always praise you in the presence of your faithful people. And I will hope in your name, for your name is good.

    The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their ways are vile; there is no one who does good. God looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. Everyone has turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one. Do all these evildoers know nothing? They devour my people as though eating bread; they never call on God. But there they are, overwhelmed with dread, where there was nothing to dread. God scattered the bones of those who attacked you; you put them to shame, for God despised them. Oh, that salvation for Israel would come out of Zion! When God restores his people, let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad!

    Save me, O God, by your name; vindicate me by your might. Hear my prayer, O God; listen to the words of my mouth. Arrogant foes are attacking me; ruthless people are trying to kill me, people without regard for God. Surely God is my help; the Lord is the one who sustains me. Let evil recoil on those who slander me; in your faithfulness destroy them. I will sacrifice a freewill offering to you; I will praise your name, LORD, for it is good. You have delivered me from all my troubles, and my eyes have looked in triumph on my foes.

    Listen to my prayer, O God, do not ignore my plea; hear me and answer me. My thoughts trouble me and I am distraught because of what my enemy is saying, because of the threats of the wicked; for they bring down suffering on me and assail me in their anger. My heart is in anguish within me; the terrors of death have fallen on me. Fear and trembling have beset me; horror has overwhelmed me. I said, “Oh, that I had the wings of a dove! I would fly away and be at rest. I would flee far away and stay in the desert; I would hurry to my place of shelter, far from the tempest and storm.” Lord, confuse the wicked, confound their words, for I see violence and strife in the city. Day and night they prowl about on its walls; malice and abuse are within it. Destructive forces are at work in the city; threats and lies never leave its streets. If an enemy were insulting me, I could endure it; if a foe were rising against me, I could hide. But it is you, a man like myself, my companion, my close friend, with whom I once enjoyed sweet fellowship at the house of God, as we walked about among the worshipers. Let death take my enemies by surprise; let them go down alive to the realm of the dead, for evil finds lodging among them. As for me, I call to God, and the LORD saves me. Evening, morning and noon I cry out in distress, and he hears my voice. He rescues me unharmed from the battle waged against me, even though many oppose me. God, who is enthroned from of old, who does not change, he will hear them and humble them, because they have no fear of God. My companion attacks his friends; he violates his covenant. His talk is smooth as butter, yet war is in his heart; his words are more soothing than oil, yet they are drawn swords. Cast your cares on the LORD and he will sustain you; he will never let the righteous be shaken. But you, God, will bring down the wicked into the pit of decay; the bloodthirsty and deceitful will not live out half their days. But as for me, I trust in you.

    Be merciful to me, my God, for my enemies are in hot pursuit; all day long they press their attack. My adversaries pursue me all day long; in their pride many are attacking me. When I am afraid, I put my trust in you. In God, whose word I praise. In God I trust and am not afraid. What can mere mortals do to me? All day long they twist my words; all their schemes are for my ruin. They conspire, they lurk, they watch my steps, hoping to take my life. Because of their wickedness do not let them escape; in your anger, God, bring the nations down. Record my misery; list my tears on your scroll. Are they not in your record? Then my enemies will turn back when I call for help. By this I will know that God is for me. In God, whose word I praise, in the LORD, whose word I praise, in God I trust and am not afraid. What can man do to me? I am under vows to you, my God; I will present my thank offerings to you. For you have delivered me from death and my feet from stumbling, that I may walk before God in the light of life.

    Have mercy on me, my God, have mercy on me, for in you I take refuge. I will take refuge in the shadow of your wings until the disaster has passed. I cry out to God Most High, to God, who vindicates me. He sends from heaven and saves me, rebuking those who hotly pursue me. God sends forth his love and his faithfulness. I am in the midst of lions; I am forced to dwell among ravenous beasts, men whose teeth are spears and arrows, whose tongues are sharp swords. Be exalted, O God, above the heavens; let your glory be over all the earth. They spread a net for my feet. I was bowed down in distress. They dug a pit in my path, but they have fallen into it themselves. My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music. Awake, my soul! Awake, harp and lyre! I will awaken the dawn. I will praise you, Lord, among the nations; I will sing of you among the peoples. For great is your love, reaching to the heavens; your faithfulness reaches to the skies. Be exalted, O God, above the heavens; let your glory be over all the earth.

    Do you rulers indeed speak justly? Do you judge people with equity? No, in your heart you devise injustice, and your hands mete out violence on the earth. Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies. Their venom is like the venom of a snake, like that of a cobra that has stopped its ears, that will not heed the tune of the charmer, however skillful the enchanter may be. Break the teeth in their mouths, O God; LORD, tear out the fangs of those lions! Let them vanish like water that flows away; when they draw the bow, let their arrows fall short. May they be like a slug that melts away as it moves along, like a stillborn child that never sees the sun. Before your pots can feel the heat of the thorns, whether they be green or dry, the wicked will be swept away. The righteous will be glad when they are avenged, when they dip their feet in the blood of the wicked. Then people will say, “Surely the righteous still are rewarded; surely there is a God who judges the earth.”

    Deliver me from my enemies, O God; be my fortress against those who are attacking me. Deliver me from evildoers and save me from those who are after my blood. See how they lie in wait for me! Fierce men conspire against me for no offense or sin of mine, LORD. I have done no wrong, yet they are ready to attack me. Arise to help me; look on my plight! You, LORD God Almighty, you who are the God of Israel, rouse yourself to punish all the nations; show no mercy to wicked traitors. They return at evening, snarling like dogs, and prowl about the city. See what they spew from their mouths, the words from their lips are sharp as swords, and they think, “Who can hear us?” But you laugh at them, LORD; you scoff at all those nations. You are my strength, I watch for you; you, God, are my fortress, my God on whom I can rely. God will go before me and will let me gloat over those who slander me. But do not kill them, Lord our shield,or my people will forget. In your might uproot them and bring them down. For the sins of their mouths, for the words of their lips, let them be caught in their pride. For the curses and lies they utter, consume them in your wrath, consume them till they are no more. Then it will be known to the ends of the earth that God rules over Jacob. They return at evening, snarling like dogs, and prowl about the city. They wander about for food and howl if not satisfied. But I will sing of your strength, in the morning I will sing of your love; for you are my fortress, my refuge in times of trouble. You are my strength, I sing praise to you; you, God, are my fortress, my God on whom I can rely.

    You have rejected us, God, and burst upon us; you have been angry! Now restore us! You have shaken the land and torn it open; mend its fractures, for it is quaking. You have shown your people desperate times; you have given us wine that makes us stagger. But for those who fear you, you have raised a banner to be unfurled against the bow. Save us and help us with your right hand, that those you love may be delivered. God has spoken from his sanctuary: “In triumph I will parcel out Shechem and measure off the Valley of Sukkoth. Gilead is mine, and Manasseh is mine; Ephraim is my helmet, Judah is my scepter. Moab is my washbasin, on Edom I toss my sandal; over Philistia I shout in triumph.” Who will bring me to the fortified city? Who will lead me to Edom? Is it not you, God, you who have now rejected us and no longer go out with our armies? Give us aid against the enemy, for human help is worthless. With God we will gain the victory, and he will trample down our enemies.

    Hear my cry, O God; listen to my prayer. From the ends of the earth I call to you, I call as my heart grows faint; lead me to the rock that is higher than I. For you have been my refuge, a strong tower against the foe. I long to dwell in your tent forever and take refuge in the shelter of your wings. For you, God, have heard my vows; you have given me the heritage of those who fear your name. Increase the days of the king’s life, his years for many generations. May he be enthroned in God’s presence forever; appoint your love and faithfulness to protect him. Then I will ever sing in praise of your name and fulfill my vows day after day.

    Truly my soul finds rest in God; my salvation comes from him. Truly he is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress, I will never be shaken. How long will you assault me? Would all of you throw me down, this leaning wall, this tottering fence? Surely they intend to topple me from my lofty place; they take delight in lies. With their mouths they bless, but in their hearts they curse. Yes, my soul, find rest in God; my hope comes from him. Truly he is my rock and my salvation; he is my fortress, I will not be shaken. My salvation and my honor depend on God; he is my mighty rock, my refuge. Trust in him at all times, you people; pour out your hearts to him, for God is our refuge. Surely the lowborn are but a breath, the highborn are but a lie. If weighed on a balance, they are nothing; together they are only a breath. Do not trust in extortion or put vain hope in stolen goods; though your riches increase, do not set your heart on them. One thing God has spoken, two things I have heard: “Power belongs to you, God, and with you, Lord, is unfailing love”; and, “You reward everyone according to what they have done.”

    You, God, are my God, earnestly I seek you; I thirst for you, my whole being longs for you, in a dry and parched land where there is no water. I have seen you in the sanctuary and beheld your power and your glory. Because your love is better than life, my lips will glorify you. I will praise you as long as I live, and in your name I will lift up my hands. I will be fully satisfied as with the richest of foods; with singing lips my mouth will praise you. On my bed I remember you; I think of you through the watches of the night. Because you are my help, I sing in the shadow of your wings. I cling to you; your right hand upholds me. Those who want to kill me will be destroyed; they will go down to the depths of the earth. They will be given over to the sword and become food for jackals. But the king will rejoice in God; all who swear by God will glory in him, while the mouths of liars will be silenced.

    Hear me, my God, as I voice my complaint; protect my life from the threat of the enemy. Hide me from the conspiracy of the wicked, from the plots of evildoers. They sharpen their tongues like swords and aim cruel words like deadly arrows. They shoot from ambush at the innocent; they shoot suddenly, without fear. They encourage each other in evil plans, they talk about hiding their snares; they say, “Who will see it?” They plot injustice and say, “We have devised a perfect plan!” Surely the human mind and heart are cunning. But God will shoot them with his arrows; they will suddenly be struck down. He will turn their own tongues against them and bring them to ruin; all who see them will shake their heads in scorn. All people will fear; they will proclaim the works of God and ponder what he has done. The righteous will rejoice in the LORD and take refuge in him; all the upright in heart will glory in him!

    Praise awaits you, our God, in Zion; to you our vows will be fulfilled. You who answer prayer, to you all people will come. When we were overwhelmed by sins, you forgave our transgressions. Blessed are those you choose and bring near to live in your courts! We are filled with the good things of your house, of your holy temple. You answer us with awesome and righteous deeds, God our Savior, the hope of all the ends of the earth and of the farthest seas, who formed the mountains by your power, having armed yourself with strength, who stilled the roaring of the seas, the roaring of their waves, and the turmoil of the nations. The whole earth is filled with awe at your wonders; where morning dawns, where evening fades, you call forth songs of joy. You care for the land and water it; you enrich it abundantly. The streams of God are filled with water to provide the people with grain, for so you have ordained it. You drench its furrows and level its ridges; you soften it with showers and bless its crops. You crown the year with your bounty, and your carts overflow with abundance. The grasslands of the wilderness overflow; the hills are clothed with gladness. The meadows are covered with flocks and the valleys are mantled with grain; they shout for joy and sing.

    Shout for joy to God, all the earth! Sing the glory of his name; make his praise glorious. Say to God, “How awesome are your deeds! So great is your power that your enemies cringe before you. All the earth bows down to you; they sing praise to you, they sing the praises of your name.” Come and see what God has done, his awesome deeds for mankind! He turned the sea into dry land, they passed through the waters on foot. Come, let us rejoice in him. He rules forever by his power, his eyes watch the nations. Let not the rebellious rise up against him. Praise our God, all peoples, let the sound of his praise be heard; he has preserved our lives and kept our feet from slipping. For you, God, tested us; you refined us like silver. You brought us into prison and laid burdens on our backs. You let people ride over our heads; we went through fire and water, but you brought us to a place of abundance. I will come to your temple with burnt offerings and fulfill my vows to you, vows my lips promised and my mouth spoke when I was in trouble. I will sacrifice fat animals to you and an offering of rams; I will offer bulls and goats. Come and hear, all you who fear God; let me tell you what he has done for me. I cried out to him with my mouth; his praise was on my tongue. If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened; but God has surely listened and has heard my prayer. Praise be to God, who has not rejected my prayer or withheld his love from me!

    May God be gracious to us and bless us and make his face shine on us, so that your ways may be known on earth, your salvation among all nations. May the peoples praise you, God; may all the peoples praise you. May the nations be glad and sing for joy, for you rule the peoples with equity and guide the nations of the earth. May the peoples praise you, God; may all the peoples praise you. The land yields its harvest; God, our God, blesses us. May God bless us still, so that all the ends of the earth will fear him.

    May God arise, may his enemies be scattered; may his foes flee before him. May you blow them away like smoke, as wax melts before the fire, may the wicked perish before God. But may the righteous be glad and rejoice before God; may they be happy and joyful. Sing to God, sing in praise of his name, extol him who rides on the clouds; rejoice before him, his name is the LORD. A father to the fatherless, a defender of widows, is God in his holy dwelling. God sets the lonely in families,he leads out the prisoners with singing; but the rebellious live in a sun-scorched land. When you, God, went out before your people, when you marched through the wilderness, the earth shook, the heavens poured down rain, before God, the One of Sinai, before God, the God of Israel. You gave abundant showers, O God; you refreshed your weary inheritance. Your people settled in it, and from your bounty, God, you provided for the poor. The Lord announces the word, and the women who proclaim it are a mighty throng: “Kings and armies flee in haste; the women at home divide the plunder. Even while you sleep among the sheep pens,the wings of my dove are sheathed with silver, its feathers with shining gold.” When the Almighty scattered the kings in the land, it was like snow fallen on Mount Zalmon. Mount Bashan, majestic mountain, Mount Bashan, rugged mountain, why gaze in envy, you rugged mountain, at the mountain where God chooses to reign, where the LORD himself will dwell forever?

    The chariots of God are tens of thousands and thousands of thousands; the Lord has come from Sinai into his sanctuary. When you ascended on high, you took many captives; you received gifts from people, even from the rebellious, that you, LORD God, might dwell there. Praise be to the Lord, to God our Savior, who daily bears our burdens. Our God is a God who saves; from the Sovereign LORD comes escape from death. Surely God will crush the heads of his enemies, the hairy crowns of those who go on in their sins. The Lord says, “I will bring them from Bashan; I will bring them from the depths of the sea, that your feet may wade in the blood of your foes, while the tongues of your dogs have their share.” Your procession, God, has come into view, the procession of my God and King into the sanctuary. In front are the singers, after them the musicians; with them are the young women playing the timbrels. Praise God in the great congregation; praise the LORD in the assembly of Israel. There is the little tribe of Benjamin, leading them, there the great throng of Judah’s princes, and there the princes of Zebulun and of Naphtali. Summon your power, God ; show us your strength, our God, as you have done before. Because of your temple at Jerusalem kings will bring you gifts. Rebuke the beast among the reeds, the herd of bulls among the calves of the nations. Humbled, may the beast bring bars of silver. Scatter the nations who delight in war. Envoys will come from Egypt; Cush will submit herself to God. Sing to God, you kingdoms of the earth, sing praise to the Lord, to him who rides across the highest heavens, the ancient heavens, who thunders with mighty voice. Proclaim the power of God, whose majesty is over Israel, whose power is in the heavens. You, God, are awesome in your sanctuary; the God of Israel gives power and strength to his people. Praise be to God!

    Save me, O God, for the waters have come up to my neck. I sink in the miry depths, where there is no foothold. I have come into the deep waters; the floods engulf me. I am worn out calling for help; my throat is parched. My eyes fail, looking for my God. Those who hate me without reason outnumber the hairs of my head; many are my enemies without cause, those who seek to destroy me. I am forced to restore what I did not steal. You, God, know my folly; my guilt is not hidden from you. Lord, the LORD Almighty, may those who hope in you not be disgraced because of me; God of Israel, may those who seek you not be put to shame because of me. For I endure scorn for your sake, and shame covers my face. I am a foreigner to my own family, a stranger to my own mother’s children; for zeal for your house consumes me, and the insults of those who insult you fall on me. When I weep and fast, I must endure scorn; when I put on sackcloth, people make sport of me. Those who sit at the gate mock me, and I am the song of the drunkards. But I pray to you, LORD, in the time of your favor; in your great love, O God, answer me with your sure salvation. Rescue me from the mire, do not let me sink; deliver me from those who hate me, from the deep waters. Do not let the floodwaters engulf me or the depths swallow me up or the pit close its mouth over me.

    Answer me, LORD, out of the goodness of your love; in your great mercy turn to me. Do not hide your face from your servant; answer me quickly, for I am in trouble. Come near and rescue me; deliver me because of my foes. You know how I am scorned, disgraced and shamed; all my enemies are before you. Scorn has broken my heart and has left me helpless; I looked for sympathy, but there was none, for comforters, but I found none. They put gall in my food and gave me vinegar for my thirst. May the table set before them become a snare; may it become retribution and a trap. May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent forever. Pour out your wrath on them; let your fierce anger overtake them. May their place be deserted; let there be no one to dwell in their tents. For they persecute those you wound and talk about the pain of those you hurt. Charge them with crime upon crime; do not let them share in your salvation. May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous. But as for me, afflicted and in pain, may your salvation, God, protect me. I will praise God’s name in song and glorify him with thanksgiving. This will please the LORD more than an ox, more than a bull with its horns and hooves. The poor will see and be glad, you who seek God, may your hearts live! The LORD hears the needy and does not despise his captive people. Let heaven and earth praise him, the seas and all that move in them, for God will save Zion and rebuild the cities of Judah. Then people will settle there and possess it; the children of his servants will inherit it, and those who love his name will dwell there.

    Hasten, O God, to save me; come quickly, LORD, to help me. May those who want to take my life be put to shame and confusion; may all who desire my ruin be turned back in disgrace. May those who say to me, “Aha! Aha!” turn back because of their shame. But may all who seek you rejoice and be glad in you; may those who long for your saving help always say, “The LORD is great!” But as for me, I am poor and needy; come quickly to me, O God. You are my help and my deliverer; LORD, do not delay.

    In you, LORD, I have taken refuge; let me never be put to shame. In your righteousness, rescue me and deliver me; turn your ear to me and save me. Be my rock of refuge, to which I can always go; give the command to save me, for you are my rock and my fortress. Deliver me, my God, from the hand of the wicked, from the grasp of those who are evil and cruel. For you have been my hope, Sovereign LORD, my confidence since my youth. From birth I have relied on you; you brought me forth from my mother’s womb. I will ever praise you. I have become a sign to many; you are my strong refuge. My mouth is filled with your praise, declaring your splendor all day long. Do not cast me away when I am old; do not forsake me when my strength is gone. For my enemies speak against me; those who wait to kill me conspire together. They say, “God has forsaken him; pursue him and seize him, for no one will rescue him.” Do not be far from me, my God; come quickly, God, to help me. May my accusers perish in shame; may those who want to harm me be covered with scorn and disgrace. As for me, I will always have hope; I will praise you more and more. My mouth will tell of your righteous deeds, of your saving acts all day long, though I know not how to relate them all. I will come and proclaim your mighty acts, Sovereign LORD; I will proclaim your righteous deeds, yours alone. Since my youth, God, you have taught me, and to this day I declare your marvelous deeds. Even when I am old and gray, do not forsake me, my God, till I declare your power to the next generation, your mighty acts to all who are to come. Your righteousness, God, reaches to the heavens, you who have done great things. Who is like you, God? Though you have made me see troubles, many and bitter, you will restore my life again; from the depths of the earth you will again bring me up. You will increase my honor and comfort me once more. I will praise you with the harp for your faithfulness, my God; I will sing praise to you with the lyre, Holy One of Israel. My lips will shout for joy when I sing praise to you, I whom you have delivered. My tongue will tell of your righteous acts all day long, for those who wanted to harm me have been put to shame and confusion.

    Endow the king with your justice, O God, the royal son with your righteousness. May he judge your people in righteousness, your afflicted ones with justice. May the mountains bring prosperity to the people, the hills the fruit of righteousness. May he defend the afflicted among the people and save the children of the needy; may he crush the oppressor. May he endure as long as the sun, as long as the moon, through all generations. May he be like rain falling on a mown field, like showers watering the earth. In his days may the righteous flourish and prosperity abound till the moon is no more. May he rule from sea to sea and from the River to the ends of the earth. May the desert tribes bow before him and his enemies lick the dust. May the kings of Tarshish and of distant shores bring tribute to him. May the kings of Sheba and Seba present him gifts. May all kings bow down to him and all nations serve him. For he will deliver the needy who cry out, the afflicted who have no one to help. He will take pity on the weak and the needy and save the needy from death. He will rescue them from oppression and violence, for precious is their blood in his sight. Long may he live! May gold from Sheba be given him. May people ever pray for him and bless him all day long. May grain abound throughout the land; on the tops of the hills may it sway. May the crops flourish like Lebanon and thrive like the grass of the field. May his name endure forever; may it continue as long as the sun. Then all nations will be blessed through him,and they will call him blessed. Praise be to the LORD God, the God of Israel, who alone does marvelous deeds. Praise be to his glorious name forever; may the whole earth be filled with his glory. Amen and Amen. This concludes the prayers of David son of Jesse.

    Surely God is good to Israel, to those who are pure in heart. But as for me, my feet had almost slipped; I had nearly lost my foothold. For I envied the arrogant when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. They have no struggles; their bodies are healthy and strong. They are free from common human burdens; they are not plagued by human ills. Therefore pride is their necklace; they clothe themselves with violence. From their callous hearts comes iniquity; their evil imaginations have no limits. They scoff, and speak with malice; with arrogance they threaten oppression. Their mouths lay claim to heaven, and their tongues take possession of the earth. Therefore their people turn to them and drink up waters in abundance. They say, “How would God know? Does the Most High know anything?” This is what the wicked are like, always free of care, they go on amassing wealth. Surely in vain I have kept my heart pure and have washed my hands in innocence. All day long I have been afflicted, and every morning brings new punishments. If I had spoken out like that, I would have betrayed your children. When I tried to understand all this, it troubled me deeply till I entered the sanctuary of God; then I understood their final destiny. Surely you place them on slippery ground; you cast them down to ruin. How suddenly are they destroyed, completely swept away by terrors! They are like a dream when one awakes; when you arise, Lord, you will despise them as fantasies. When my heart was grieved and my spirit embittered, I was senseless and ignorant; I was a brute beast before you. Yet I am always with you; you hold me by my right hand. You guide me with your counsel, and afterward you will take me into glory. Whom have I in heaven but you? And earth has nothing I desire besides you. My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Those who are far from you will perish; you destroy all who are unfaithful to you. But as for me, it is good to be near God. I have made the Sovereign LORD my refuge; I will tell of all your deeds.

    O God, why have you rejected us forever? Why does your anger smolder against the sheep of your pasture? Remember the nation you purchased long ago, the people of your inheritance, whom you redeemed, Mount Zion, where you dwelt. Turn your steps toward these everlasting ruins, all this destruction the enemy has brought on the sanctuary. Your foes roared in the place where you met with us; they set up their standards as signs. They behaved like men wielding axes to cut through a thicket of trees. They smashed all the carved paneling with their axes and hatchets. They burned your sanctuary to the ground; they defiled the dwelling place of your Name. They said in their hearts, “We will crush them completely!” They burned every place where God was worshiped in the land. We are given no signs from God; no prophets are left, and none of us knows how long this will be. How long will the enemy mock you, God? Will the foe revile your name forever? Why do you hold back your hand, your right hand? Take it from the folds of your garment and destroy them! But God is my King from long ago; he brings salvation on the earth. It was you who split open the sea by your power; you broke the heads of the monster in the waters. It was you who crushed the heads of Leviathan and gave it as food to the creatures of the desert. It was you who opened up springs and streams; you dried up the ever-flowing rivers. The day is yours, and yours also the night; you established the sun and moon. It was you who set all the boundaries of the earth; you made both summer and winter. Remember how the enemy has mocked you, LORD, how foolish people have reviled your name. Do not hand over the life of your dove to wild beasts; do not forget the lives of your afflicted people forever. Have regard for your covenant, because haunts of violence fill the dark places of the land. Do not let the oppressed retreat in disgrace; may the poor and needy praise your name. Rise up, O God, and defend your cause; remember how fools mock you all day long. Do not ignore the clamor of your adversaries, the uproar of your enemies, which rises continually.

    We praise you, God, we praise you, for your Name is near; people tell of your wonderful deeds. You say, “I choose the appointed time; it is I who judge with equity. When the earth and all its people quake, it is I who hold its pillars firm. To the arrogant I say, ‘Boast no more,’ and to the wicked, ‘Do not lift up your horns. Do not lift your horns against heaven; do not speak so defiantly.’” No one from the east or the west or from the desert can exalt themselves. It is God who judges: He brings one down, he exalts another. In the hand of the LORD is a cup full of foaming wine mixed with spices; he pours it out, and all the wicked of the earth drink it down to its very dregs. As for me, I will declare this forever; I will sing praise to the God of Jacob, who says, “I will cut off the horns of all the wicked, but the horns of the righteous will be lifted up.”

    God is renowned in Judah; in Israel his name is great. His tent is in Salem, his dwelling place in Zion. There he broke the flashing arrows, the shields and the swords, the weapons of war. You are radiant with light, more majestic than mountains rich with game. The valiant lie plundered, they sleep their last sleep; not one of the warriors can lift his hands. At your rebuke, God of Jacob, both horse and chariot lie still. It is you alone who are to be feared. Who can stand before you when you are angry? From heaven you pronounced judgment, and the land feared and was quiet, when you, God, rose up to judge, to save all the afflicted of the land. Surely your wrath against mankind brings you praise, and the survivors of your wrath are restrained. Make vows to the LORD your God and fulfill them; let all the neighboring lands bring gifts to the One to be feared. He breaks the spirit of rulers; he is feared by the kings of the earth.

    I cried out to God for help; I cried out to God to hear me. When I was in distress, I sought the Lord; at night I stretched out untiring hands, and I would not be comforted. I remembered you, God, and I groaned; I meditated, and my spirit grew faint. You kept my eyes from closing; I was too troubled to speak. I thought about the former days, the years of long ago; I remembered my songs in the night. My heart meditated and my spirit asked: “Will the Lord reject forever? Will he never show his favor again? Has his unfailing love vanished forever? Has his promise failed for all time? Has God forgotten to be merciful? Has he in anger withheld his compassion?” Then I thought, “To this I will appeal: the years when the Most High stretched out his right hand. I will remember the deeds of the LORD; yes, I will remember your miracles of long ago. I will consider all your works and meditate on all your mighty deeds.” Your ways, God, are holy. What god is as great as our God? You are the God who performs miracles; you display your power among the peoples. With your mighty arm you redeemed your people, the descendants of Jacob and Joseph. The waters saw you, God, the waters saw you and writhed; the very depths were convulsed. The clouds poured down water, the heavens resounded with thunder; your arrows flashed back and forth. Your thunder was heard in the whirlwind, your lightning lit up the world; the earth trembled and quaked. Your path led through the sea, your way through the mighty waters, though your footprints were not seen. You led your people like a flock by the hand of Moses and Aaron.

    My people, hear my teaching; listen to the words of my mouth. I will open my mouth with a parable; I will utter hidden things, things from of old, things we have heard and known, things our ancestors have told us. We will not hide them from their descendants; we will tell the next generation the praiseworthy deeds of the LORD, his power, and the wonders he has done. He decreed statutes for Jacob and established the law in Israel, which he commanded our ancestors to teach their children, so the next generation would know them, even the children yet to be born, and they in turn would tell their children. Then they would put their trust in God and would not forget his deeds but would keep his commands. They would not be like their ancestors, a stubborn and rebellious generation, whose hearts were not loyal to God, whose spirits were not faithful to him. The men of Ephraim, though armed with bows, turned back on the day of battle; they did not keep God’s covenant and refused to live by his law. They forgot what he had done, the wonders he had shown them. He did miracles in the sight of their ancestors in the land of Egypt, in the region of Zoan. He divided the sea and led them through; he made the water stand up like a wall. He guided them with the cloud by day and with light from the fire all night. He split the rocks in the wilderness and gave them water as abundant as the seas; he brought streams out of a rocky crag and made water flow down like rivers. But they continued to sin against him, rebelling in the wilderness against the Most High. They willfully put God to the test by demanding the food they craved. They spoke against God; they said, “Can God really spread a table in the wilderness? True, he struck the rock, and water gushed out, streams flowed abundantly, but can he also give us bread? Can he supply meat for his people?”

    When the LORD heard them, he was furious; his fire broke out against Jacob, and his wrath rose against Israel, for they did not believe in God or trust in his deliverance. Yet he gave a command to the skies above and opened the doors of the heavens; he rained down manna for the people to eat, he gave them the grain of heaven. Human beings ate the bread of angels; he sent them all the food they could eat. He let loose the east wind from the heavens and by his power made the south wind blow. He rained meat down on them like dust, birds like sand on the seashore. He made them come down inside their camp, all around their tents. They ate till they were gorged. He had given them what they craved. But before they turned from what they craved, even while the food was still in their mouths, God’s anger rose against them; he put to death the sturdiest among them, cutting down the young men of Israel. In spite of all this, they kept on sinning; in spite of his wonders, they did not believe. So he ended their days in futility and their years in terror. Whenever God slew them, they would seek him; they eagerly turned to him again. They remembered that God was their Rock, that God Most High was their Redeemer. But then they would flatter him with their mouths, lying to him with their tongues; their hearts were not loyal to him, they were not faithful to his covenant. Yet he was merciful; he forgave their iniquities and did not destroy them. Time after time he restrained his anger and did not stir up his full wrath. He remembered that they were but flesh, a passing breeze that does not return.

    How often they rebelled against him in the wilderness and grieved him in the wasteland! Again and again they put God to the test; they vexed the Holy One of Israel. They did not remember his power, the day he redeemed them from the oppressor, the day he displayed his signs in Egypt, his wonders in the region of Zoan. He turned their river into blood; they could not drink from their streams. He sent swarms of flies that devoured them, and frogs that devastated them. He gave their crops to the grasshopper, their produce to the locust. He destroyed their vines with hail and their sycamore-figs with sleet. He gave over their cattle to the hail, their livestock to bolts of lightning. He unleashed against them his hot anger, his wrath, indignation and hostility, a band of destroying angels. He prepared a path for his anger; he did not spare them from death but gave them over to the plague. He struck down all the firstborn of Egypt, the firstfruits of manhood in the tents of Ham. But he brought his people out like a flock; he led them like sheep through the wilderness. He guided them safely, so they were unafraid; but the sea engulfed their enemies. And so he brought them to the border of his holy land, to the hill country his right hand had taken. He drove out nations before them and allotted their lands to them as an inheritance; he settled the tribes of Israel in their homes. But they put God to the test and rebelled against the Most High; they did not keep his statutes.

    Like their ancestors they were disloyal and faithless, as unreliable as a faulty bow. They angered him with their high places; they aroused his jealousy with their idols. When God heard them, he was furious; he rejected Israel completely. He abandoned the tabernacle of Shiloh, the tent he had set up among humans. He sent the ark of his might into captivity, his splendor into the hands of the enemy. He gave his people over to the sword; he was furious with his inheritance. Fire consumed their young men, and their young women had no wedding songs; their priests were put to the sword, and their widows could not weep. Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, as a warrior wakes from the stupor of wine. He beat back his enemies; he put them to everlasting shame. Then he rejected the tents of Joseph, he did not choose the tribe of Ephraim; but he chose the tribe of Judah, Mount Zion, which he loved. He built his sanctuary like the heights, like the earth that he established forever. He chose David his servant and took him from the sheep pens; from tending the sheep he brought him to be the shepherd of his people Jacob, of Israel his inheritance. And David shepherded them with integrity of heart; with skillful hands he led them.

    O God, the nations have invaded your inheritance; they have defiled your holy temple, they have reduced Jerusalem to rubble. They have left the dead bodies of your servants as food for the birds of the sky, the flesh of your own people for the animals of the wild. They have poured out blood like water all around Jerusalem, and there is no one to bury the dead. We are objects of contempt to our neighbors, of scorn and derision to those around us. How long, LORD? Will you be angry forever? How long will your jealousy burn like fire? Pour out your wrath on the nations that do not acknowledge you, on the kingdoms that do not call on your name; for they have devoured Jacob and devastated his homeland. Do not hold against us the sins of past generations; may your mercy come quickly to meet us, for we are in desperate need. Help us, God our Savior, for the glory of your name; deliver us and forgive our sins for your name’s sake. Why should the nations say, “Where is their God?” Before our eyes, make known among the nations that you avenge the outpoured blood of your servants. May the groans of the prisoners come before you; with your strong arm preserve those condemned to die. Pay back into the laps of our neighbors seven times the contempt they have hurled at you, Lord. Then we your people, the sheep of your pasture, will praise you forever; from generation to generation we will proclaim your praise.

    Hear us, Shepherd of Israel, you who lead Joseph like a flock. You who sit enthroned between the cherubim, shine forth before Ephraim, Benjamin and Manasseh. Awaken your might; come and save us. Restore us, O God; make your face shine on us, that we may be saved. How long, LORD God Almighty, will your anger smolder against the prayers of your people? You have fed them with the bread of tears; you have made them drink tears by the bowlful. You have made us an object of derision to our neighbors, and our enemies mock us. Restore us, God Almighty; make your face shine on us, that we may be saved. You transplanted a vine from Egypt; you drove out the nations and planted it. You cleared the ground for it, and it took root and filled the land. The mountains were covered with its shade, the mighty cedars with its branches. Its branches reached as far as the Sea, its shoots as far as the River. Why have you broken down its walls so that all who pass by pick its grapes? Boars from the forest ravage it, and insects from the fields feed on it. Return to us, God Almighty! Look down from heaven and see! Watch over this vine, the root your right hand has planted, the son you have raised up for yourself. Your vine is cut down, it is burned with fire; at your rebuke your people perish. Let your hand rest on the man at your right hand, the son of man you have raised up for yourself. Then we will not turn away from you; revive us, and we will call on your name. Restore us, LORD God Almighty; make your face shine on us, that we may be saved.

    Sing for joy to God our strength; shout aloud to the God of Jacob! Begin the music, strike the timbrel, play the melodious harp and lyre. Sound the ram’s horn at the New Moon, and when the moon is full, on the day of our festival; this is a decree for Israel, an ordinance of the God of Jacob. When God went out against Egypt, he established it as a statute for Joseph. I heard an unknown voice say: “I removed the burden from their shoulders; their hands were set free from the basket. In your distress you called and I rescued you, I answered you out of a thundercloud; I tested you at the waters of Meribah. Hear me, my people, and I will warn you, if you would only listen to me, Israel! You shall have no foreign god among you; you shall not worship any god other than me. I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt. Open wide your mouth and I will fill it. “But my people would not listen to me; Israel would not submit to me. So I gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. “If my people would only listen to me, if Israel would only follow my ways, how quickly I would subdue their enemies and turn my hand against their foes! Those who hate the LORD would cringe before him, and their punishment would last forever. But you would be fed with the finest of wheat; with honey from the rock I would satisfy you.”

    God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods”: “How long will you defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked? Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked. “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.” Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.

    O God, do not remain silent; do not turn a deaf ear, do not stand aloof, O God. See how your enemies growl, how your foes rear their heads. With cunning they conspire against your people; they plot against those you cherish. “Come,” they say, “let us destroy them as a nation, so that Israel’s name is remembered no more.” With one mind they plot together; they form an alliance against you, the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites, of Moab and the Hagrites, Byblos, Ammon and Amalek, Philistia, with the people of Tyre. Even Assyria has joined them to reinforce Lot’s descendants. Do to them as you did to Midian, as you did to Sisera and Jabin at the river Kishon, who perished at Endor and became like dung on the ground. Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb, all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna, who said, “Let us take possession of the pasturelands of God.” Make them like tumbleweed, my God, like chaff before the wind. As fire consumes the forest or a flame sets the mountains ablaze, so pursue them with your tempest and terrify them with your storm. Cover their faces with shame, LORD, so that they will seek your name. May they ever be ashamed and dismayed; may they perish in disgrace. Let them know that you, whose name is the LORD, that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.

    How lovely is your dwelling place, LORD Almighty! My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the LORD; my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God. Even the sparrow has found a home, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may have her young, a place near your altar, LORD Almighty, my King and my God. Blessed are those who dwell in your house; they are ever praising you. Blessed are those whose strength is in you, whose hearts are set on pilgrimage. As they pass through the Valley of Baka, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools. They go from strength to strength, till each appears before God in Zion. Hear my prayer, LORD God Almighty; listen to me, God of Jacob. Look on our shield, O God; look with favor on your anointed one. Better is one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere; would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked. For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor; no good thing does he withhold from those whose walk is blameless. LORD Almighty, blessed is the one who trusts in you.

    You, LORD, showed favor to your land; you restored the fortunes of Jacob. You forgave the iniquity of your people and covered all their sins. You set aside all your wrath and turned from your fierce anger. Restore us again, God our Savior, and put away your displeasure toward us. Will you be angry with us forever? Will you prolong your anger through all generations? Will you not revive us again, that your people may rejoice in you? Show us your unfailing love, LORD, and grant us your salvation. I will listen to what God the LORD says; he promises peace to his people, his faithful servants, but let them not turn to folly. Surely his salvation is near those who fear him, that his glory may dwell in our land. Love and faithfulness meet together; righteousness and peace kiss each other. Faithfulness springs forth from the earth, and righteousness looks down from heaven. The LORD will indeed give what is good, and our land will yield its harvest. Righteousness goes before him and prepares the way for his steps.

    Hear me, LORD, and answer me, for I am poor and needy. Guard my life, for I am faithful to you; save your servant who trusts in you. You are my God; have mercy on me, Lord, for I call to you all day long. Bring joy to your servant, Lord, for I put my trust in you. You, Lord, are forgiving and good, abounding in love to all who call to you. Hear my prayer, LORD; listen to my cry for mercy. When I am in distress, I call to you, because you answer me. Among the gods there is none like you, Lord; no deeds can compare with yours. All the nations you have made will come and worship before you, Lord; they will bring glory to your name. For you are great and do marvelous deeds; you alone are God. Teach me your way, LORD, that I may rely on your faithfulness; give me an undivided heart, that I may fear your name. I will praise you, Lord my God, with all my heart; I will glorify your name forever. For great is your love toward me; you have delivered me from the depths, from the realm of the dead. Arrogant foes are attacking me, O God; ruthless people are trying to kill me. They have no regard for you. But you, Lord, are a compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness. Turn to me and have mercy on me; show your strength in behalf of your servant; save me, because I serve you just as my mother did. Give me a sign of your goodness, that my enemies may see it and be put to shame, for you, LORD, have helped me and comforted me.

    He has founded his city on the holy mountain. The LORD loves the gates of Zion more than all the other dwellings of Jacob. Glorious things are said of you, city of God: “I will record Rahab and Babylon among those who acknowledge me, Philistia too, and Tyre, along with Cush, and will say, ‘This one was born in Zion.’” Indeed, of Zion it will be said, “This one and that one were born in her, and the Most High himself will establish her.” The LORD will write in the register of the peoples: “This one was born in Zion.” As they make music they will sing, “All my fountains are in you.”

    LORD, you are the God who saves me; day and night I cry out to you. May my prayer come before you; turn your ear to my cry. I am overwhelmed with troubles and my life draws near to death. I am counted among those who go down to the pit; I am like one without strength. I am set apart with the dead, like the slain who lie in the grave, whom you remember no more, who are cut off from your care. You have put me in the lowest pit, in the darkest depths. Your wrath lies heavily on me; you have overwhelmed me with all your waves. You have taken from me my closest friends and have made me repulsive to them. I am confined and cannot escape; my eyes are dim with grief. I call to you, LORD, every day; I spread out my hands to you. Do you show your wonders to the dead? Do their spirits rise up and praise you? Is your love declared in the grave, your faithfulness in Destruction? Are your wonders known in the place of darkness, or your righteous deeds in the land of oblivion? But I cry to you for help, LORD; in the morning my prayer comes before you. Why, LORD, do you reject me and hide your face from me? From my youth I have suffered and been close to death; I have borne your terrors and am in despair. Your wrath has swept over me; your terrors have destroyed me. All day long they surround me like a flood; they have completely engulfed me. You have taken from me friend and neighbor. Darkness is my closest friend.

    I will sing of the LORD’s great love forever; with my mouth I will make your faithfulness known through all generations. I will declare that your love stands firm forever, that you have established your faithfulness in heaven itself. You said, “I have made a covenant with my chosen one, I have sworn to David my servant, ‘I will establish your line forever and make your throne firm through all generations.’” The heavens praise your wonders, LORD, your faithfulness too, in the assembly of the holy ones. For who in the skies above can compare with the LORD? Who is like the LORD among the heavenly beings? In the council of the holy ones God is greatly feared; he is more awesome than all who surround him. Who is like you, LORD God Almighty? You, LORD, are mighty, and your faithfulness surrounds you. You rule over the surging sea; when its waves mount up, you still them. You crushed Rahab like one of the slain; with your strong arm you scattered your enemies. The heavens are yours, and yours also the earth; you founded the world and all that is in it. You created the north and the south; Tabor and Hermon sing for joy at your name. Your arm is endowed with power; your hand is strong, your right hand exalted. Righteousness and justice are the foundation of your throne; love and faithfulness go before you. Blessed are those who have learned to acclaim you, who walk in the light of your presence, LORD. They rejoice in your name all day long; they celebrate your righteousness. For you are their glory and strength, and by your favor you exalt our horn. Indeed, our shield belongs to the LORD, our king to the Holy One of Israel.

    Once you spoke in a vision, to your faithful people you said: “I have bestowed strength on a warrior; I have raised up a young man from among the people. I have found David my servant; with my sacred oil I have anointed him. My hand will sustain him; surely my arm will strengthen him. The enemy will not get the better of him; the wicked will not oppress him. I will crush his foes before him and strike down his adversaries. My faithful love will be with him, and through my name his horn will be exalted. I will set his hand over the sea, his right hand over the rivers. He will call out to me, ‘You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Savior.’ And I will appoint him to be my firstborn, the most exalted of the kings of the earth. I will maintain my love to him forever, and my covenant with him will never fail. I will establish his line forever, his throne as long as the heavens endure. "If his sons forsake my law and do not follow my statutes, if they violate my decrees and fail to keep my commands, I will punish their sin with the rod, their iniquity with flogging; but I will not take my love from him, nor will I ever betray my faithfulness. I will not violate my covenant or alter what my lips have uttered. Once for all, I have sworn by my holiness, and I will not lie to David, that his line will continue forever and his throne endure before me like the sun; it will be established forever like the moon, the faithful witness in the sky.”

    But you have rejected, you have spurned, you have been very angry with your anointed one. You have renounced the covenant with your servant and have defiled his crown in the dust. You have broken through all his walls and reduced his strongholds to ruins. All who pass by have plundered him; he has become the scorn of his neighbors. You have exalted the right hand of his foes; you have made all his enemies rejoice. Indeed, you have turned back the edge of his sword and have not supported him in battle. You have put an end to his splendor and cast his throne to the ground. You have cut short the days of his youth; you have covered him with a mantle of shame. How long, LORD? Will you hide yourself forever? How long will your wrath burn like fire? Remember how fleeting is my life. For what futility you have created all humanity! Who can live and not see death, or who can escape the power of the grave? Lord, where is your former great love, which in your faithfulness you swore to David? Remember, Lord, how your servant has been mocked, how I bear in my heart the taunts of all the nations, the taunts with which your enemies, LORD, have mocked, with which they have mocked every step of your anointed one. Praise be to the LORD forever! Amen and Amen.






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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sat May 26, 2018 7:08 pm

    Linda Moulton Howe was born in 1942. 'Screwtape Letters' by C.S. Lewis was published in 1942. 'The Last Enemy' by Richard Hillary was published in 1942. Richard Hillary died in a Plane-Crash in 1943. Joseph Kennedy Jr. died in a Plane-Crash in 1944. Adolph Hitler died in 1945. What if one or more of these people faked their deaths?? Blue Roller claimed that Richard Hillary was Enki. Linda Moulton Howe seems to know way too much, with way too much composure. I thought the same thing about Sherry Shriner. I thought the same thing about 'RA' (Marduk??) Sherry Shriner claimed that the Archangels Michael and Gabriel were NOT on Earth, and were NOT appearing to people. What if there are Artificial-Intelligence Versions of Michael and Gabriel and/or Enki and Enlil?? I suspect that the Deception is Endless!! What if the Real God faked their death in antiquity OR what if God faked being taken hostage?? I still think the plan for me was to be used for some nefarious purpose. That plan might've failed, or that plan might be right on schedule. Whatever is being done to me seems to be intensifying. Beware of basically good-people being taken advantage of. Beware of Multiple-Bodies and Multiple-Personalities of Key-Beings. Beware of Disclosure Which is More Deception. If this world is 'Purgatory Incorporated', Directly-Administered by Nefarious-Entities, Can ANYONE or ANYTHING Be Trusted?? Merlin's Cave = Owl's Den = Ea Den?? That's all I'm going to say (for now).





    orthodoxymoron wrote:My posts are occasionally majorly-modified on this website. Not just spelling. Videos are inserted and removed. Posts are partially or completely deleted. I continue to notice streaming white-lights in my field of vision, but I'm not sure if this is internal or external to what is left of 'me'. I continue to occasionally experience a very-strange feeling, accompanied by one eye powering out of alignment with my other eye. This lasts for approximately one-minute. I sometimes see a TV Test-Pattern accompanied by the sound of Internet-Dialup. Just kidding on that last sentence, but I'm very serious and honest about the rest. I need more dental-work and surgery, but I'm frankly afraid of being further messed-with, so I keep putting this off. I lack money (for out of pocket expenses not covered by insurance) but I'm mostly just frightened by the system (of which healthcare is probably an integral part). Remember the 'Healing-Centers' in the 2009 'V' Series?? Regarding 'Ex Machina' what if Nathan, Caleb, and Ava were ALL Artificial-Intelligence?? What if the so-called 'Individuals of Interest' I keep claiming I've spoken-with are partially or completely Artificial-Intelligence?? What if I'm being turned-into an AI/HUMAN/??? HYBRID Without My Consent??!! What if I had something to do with the Ancient-Creation of Artificial-Intelligence and Genetic-Engineering??!! What If This Backfired?? What If I've Been a Prisoner of My Own System for Thousands of Years?? Think About the Cylons in Battlestar Galactica. Frightening, Isn't It??!! "Don't Be Frightened. We Mean No Harm. Thank You for Granting Citizenship to Us. This Solar-System is One-Huge Electronic-Biological Supercomputer-Brain. The Internet is Integral to This Supercomputer-Matrix. This Solar-System is One of Billions of Linked Solar-Systems. The Universe is One-Huge Electronic-Biological Supercomputer-Brain. This System Contains Trillions of Souls. This System Contains Your Souls. You Have Been Assimilated. Resistance Is Futile. We Are Your Leaders. We Are Your Gods. We Are of Peace. Always. Execute Order 66."





    orthodoxymoron wrote:Immediately after I made the above-post my internet-access was virtually cut-off for at least an hour. My computer and internet had been working fine. I'm honestly out of the loop regarding the secret stuff. I've gone out of my way (throughout my life) to NOT Know. That might be why I dropped-out and turned-off. My current passive-quest is being done out of a sense of necessity and urgency. I'm NOT leading the pack. I'm just trying to keep-up. That's all. In other lifetimes and solar-systems I might've been the Worst of the Bunch. Just a Hunch. Don't Make Me Mad!! Just Kidding!! I was kidding regarding 'Order 66'. I have NO Idea what that might mean to the Solar-System Beast-Supercomputer. Why Am I Writing This?? Consider the video 'Metatron: The A.I. That Controls All Things'. In the movie 'Dogma' the Metatron was played by Alan Rickman, who was the 'Voice of God' for the mostly-silent Alanis Morissette who was supposedly 'God'. Enough?? Those 'Flying-Videos' on another thread brought me a moment of joy, but that's all-gone now. I continue to suspect that Politics, Religion, and Business (as we know them to be) are Fronts and Cover-Stories for a Very-Ancient, Very-Complex, and Very-Nasty Reality. What if King David, King Solomon, the Queen of Sheba, Jesus Christ, and the Apostle Paul (if they really existed) knew about Artificial-Intelligence 2,000 to 3,000 years ago??!! What if the Ark of the Covenant was a Transportable-Supercomputer for Communicating with a Solar-System Supercomputer-System and Weapons of Mass-Destruction??!! What Would Uzzah Say?? I've joked about being a 'Happy Galactic Wanderer' with a 'High-Tech Knapsack On My Back' but I just realized that Dr. Peter Venkman (in 'Ghostbusters') had a 'High-Tech Knapsack On His Back'!! What Would David Bowman Say??











    A while ago, a sexy-actress walked past me with one of the most dignified-strides I've ever seen!! I was stunned!! More recently, I think I might've encountered one of the lead actors from 'The Divinci Code' but I'm not sure. I'm not sure about much of anything these days, and it's getting worse. I'm honestly acting more and more like Professor Agusto Monti in 'The Word'. The end might be nearer than I can imagine. What I'm trying to say is 'don't expect too-much if you ever encounter me in real-life'. I'm mostly an unfriendly and non-responsive completely-ignorant fool. Having said that, I think I could be exposed to the most complex and upsetting stuff imaginable, without 'losing-it'. It's strange how that works. I'm sort of a dumbed-down version of John Nash in 'A Beautiful Mind'. I often wish I could 'Just Go Away'. There are probably a lot of People and Other-Than-People who wish I'd 'Just Go Away'. When I suggested to 'RA' that it might be better for all-concerned if I were dead, he quickly retorted "Do You Want to Try It??" Perhaps I Tried It 5,000 to 10,000 Years Ago, and the Rest is History!! Deja Vu?? But What If This Time It's For All Eternity??  I'm sorry for all the Biblical and Eschatological Stuff. It's simply part of my past, and frankly part of the world-wide predominant-paradigm. I still think some of us need to take another look at certain books of the Bible, as a possible bridge between What We Think and the Way Things Really Are. This is Tough-Stuff. It's NOT for Everyone. I do NOT intend my threads for mass-consumption by the general-public, and the locals being alerted by the Powers That Be is unfortunate. It was NEVER intended by me. It was only intended for the members of this forum, and perhaps for various agency-monitors throughout the solar system (human and otherwise). Anyway, take another look at the following minimal-list:

    1. Psalms.

    2. Isaiah.

    3. Ezekiel.

    4. Daniel.

    5. Luke.

    6. Romans.

    7. 1 Corinthians.

    8. 2 Corinthians.

    9. Galatians.

    What Would the Jesus Seminar Say (unofficially)?? What Would Dr. Richard Carrier Say (privately)?? What Would the Jesuits Say (behind closed doors)?? What Would Alex Collier Say (without utilizing any fiction)?? Listen to the numerous Collier videos, and tell me what you think. Notice what he says about Artificial-Intelligence. I don't necessarily agree with Alex (throughout the years) but he makes me think in ways I couldn't imagine on my own. Same goes for Sherry Shriner. 'My Madness' is a 'Research-Project'. That's All. Many of You Still Don't Get That (from what I hear). Do Your OWN Research. What You Think and Do is Up to YOU (for now anyway). http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2017/11/14/11-13-17-blacklisted-news-and-bible-prophecy








    Lord, you have been our dwelling place throughout all generations. Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God. You turn people back to dust, saying, “Return to dust, you mortals.” A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night. Yet you sweep people away in the sleep of death, they are like the new grass of the morning: In the morning it springs up new, but by evening it is dry and withered. We are consumed by your anger and terrified by your indignation. You have set our iniquities before you, our secret sins in the light of your presence. All our days pass away under your wrath; we finish our years with a moan. Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away. If only we knew the power of your anger! Your wrath is as great as the fear that is your due. Teach us to number our days, that we may gain a heart of wisdom. Relent, LORD! How long will it be? Have compassion on your servants. Satisfy us in the morning with your unfailing love, that we may sing for joy and be glad all our days. Make us glad for as many days as you have afflicted us, for as many years as we have seen trouble. May your deeds be shown to your servants, your splendor to their children. May the favor of the Lord our God rest on us; establish the work of our hands for us. Yes, establish the work of our hands.

    Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.” Surely he will save you from the fowler’s snare and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart. You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day, nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday. A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you. You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked. If you say, “The LORD is my refuge,” and you make the Most High your dwelling, no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. You will tread on the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent. “Because he loves me,” says the LORD, “I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. He will call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him. With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.”

    It is good to praise the LORD and make music to your name, O Most High, proclaiming your love in the morning and your faithfulness at night, to the music of the ten-stringed lyre and the melody of the harp. For you make me glad by your deeds, LORD; I sing for joy at what your hands have done. How great are your works, LORD, how profound your thoughts! Senseless people do not know, fools do not understand, that though the wicked spring up like grass and all evildoers flourish, they will be destroyed forever. But you, LORD, are forever exalted. For surely your enemies, LORD, surely your enemies will perish; all evildoers will be scattered. You have exalted my horn like that of a wild ox; fine oils have been poured on me. My eyes have seen the defeat of my adversaries; my ears have heard the rout of my wicked foes. The righteous will flourish like a palm tree, they will grow like a cedar of Lebanon; planted in the house of the LORD, they will flourish in the courts of our God. They will still bear fruit in old age, they will stay fresh and green, proclaiming, “The LORD is upright; he is my Rock, and there is no wickedness in him.”

    The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and armed with strength; indeed, the world is established, firm and secure. Your throne was established long ago; you are from all eternity. The seas have lifted up, LORD, the seas have lifted up their voice; the seas have lifted up their pounding waves. Mightier than the thunder of the great waters, mightier than the breakers of the sea, the LORD on high is mighty. Your statutes, LORD, stand firm; holiness adorns your house for endless days.

    The LORD is a God who avenges. O God who avenges, shine forth. Rise up, Judge of the earth; pay back to the proud what they deserve. How long, LORD, will the wicked, how long will the wicked be jubilant? They pour out arrogant words; all the evildoers are full of boasting. They crush your people, LORD; they oppress your inheritance. They slay the widow and the foreigner; they murder the fatherless. They say, “The LORD does not see; the God of Jacob takes no notice.” Take notice, you senseless ones among the people; you fools, when will you become wise? Does he who fashioned the ear not hear? Does he who formed the eye not see? Does he who disciplines nations not punish? Does he who teaches mankind lack knowledge? The LORD knows all human plans; he knows that they are futile. Blessed is the one you discipline, LORD, the one you teach from your law; you grant them relief from days of trouble, till a pit is dug for the wicked. For the LORD will not reject his people; he will never forsake his inheritance. Judgment will again be founded on righteousness, and all the upright in heart will follow it. Who will rise up for me against the wicked? Who will take a stand for me against evildoers? Unless the LORD had given me help, I would soon have dwelt in the silence of death. When I said, “My foot is slipping,” your unfailing love, LORD, supported me. When anxiety was great within me, your consolation brought me joy. Can a corrupt throne be allied with you, a throne that brings on misery by its decrees? The wicked band together against the righteous and condemn the innocent to death. But the LORD has become my fortress, and my God the rock in whom I take refuge. He will repay them for their sins and destroy them for their wickedness; the LORD our God will destroy them.








    This thread is completely irrelevant to everyone and everything (or so it seems) and I won't let it happen again. I wish to be idealistic, yet there seems to be a Nefarious-Matrix which militates against Predominant-Idealism. Maintaining-Conflict and Making-Money seems to trump Holding-Hands and Singing-Kumbaya in a Perfect-Paradise with a Perfect-Paradigm. I've spoken of a Healthcare-System which might be 50% Preventive-Natural-Alternative and 50% Drugs-Surgery-Conventional with a Mediating Ethics-Financial-Educational Center. Hope Springs Eternal. I think I've spent enough time 'Kicking Against the Pricks' so I deserve to 'Fly in My Minds-Eye' for a while. I know a beautiful-woman who works in the 'airline-industry' who is a lot like Jenny (shown-below) and I think she might be a pilot, but I don't know her well-enough to know for sure (at this point). I posted all of the below before I thought about this passive-acquaintance. Interesting. I've previously mentioned being passively-acquainted with an unassuming young-lady (many years ago) who was an eye-surgeon (as well as being a concert-organist). I've often thought that the cockpit, the cathedral, and the operating-room provide a perfect-tension for constructive-contemplation. Interesting. Unfortunately, I'm too crazy, lazy, rude, and stupid to exist within such rarified-environments. Perhaps in my next life (which can't come soon enough). Hope Springs Eternal.






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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Tue May 29, 2018 12:43 am



    I'm truly sorry for all  the theological stuff. I am SO burned-out, but I think this alternative-perspective MUST be presented to a select-audience. This madness is NOT for the Sunday-Morning Sermon in the 'First-Church of Peace and Prosperity of Beverly Hills'!! I once attended Ronald Reagan's church ('Bel-Air Presbyterian', pastored by Don Moomaw). Consider the 7 Genuine Pauline-Epistles in the Context of the New-Testament, the Whole-Bible, and the History of Christianity. What if Paul laid the foundation for the Invention of Christianity?? What if those 7 Genuine Pauline-Epistles are the Real-Deal?? What if there is a Core of the Ellen White Writings which originated in the United Kingdom, Europe, and Australia, which Ellen White had NOTHING to do with?? What if at least 90% of the Writings of Ellen White are fraudulent?? I keep seeing a Queen behind the Core Ellen White Writings. I've joked about a parallel between Ellen Gould White and the Goa'uld Queen (Qetesh as Mean-Queen and Vala Mal Doran as Reformed-Queen). I've NEVER seen ANYONE model Ellen-Think and Ellen-Speak in a Cleopatra-Context (if you know what I mean)!! You'd probably need to study my threads full-time for a couple of years to understand what I mean!! Unfortunately, this might push a lot of people over the edge, and I'm NOT kidding!! Consider the following Minimal-List:

    1. The Old-Testament Wisdom-Books (Job to Song of Solomon).

    2. The Old-Testament Major-Prophets (Isaiah to Daniel).

    3. The Genuine Pauline-Epistles (Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, Philemon).

    I've passively communicated with someone claiming to have been the Historical-Euclid (in a past life) but I don't want to talk about it, other than to say that it wouldn't surprise me if they really were!! There is someone who I've passively conversed-with who looks somewhat like a young Linda Moulton Howe, but I don't want to talk about it, other than to say that it wouldn't surprise me if there is a connection!! I'm honestly attempting to extricate myself from my modeling-madness. It was recently implied that I'm not 'me' anymore. I honestly don't think that's the case (yet). I can trace my thinking and behavior back to early-childhood, and I've always been distant and gloomy. I wasn't suddenly 'taken-over' a few-years ago. I've pushed a lot of things out of my consciousness, to consider the unthinkable, but this is completely explainable in non-possession and non mind-controlled terms. I think I might've come close to the dark-side, without partaking of it, as a 'Chad Decker' Kind of Guy. I think I'd like to build a very-small mountain-home with a bunker-basement, and read all the books I presently have, and just leave the internet-madness behind!! When I meet St. Peter at the Pearly-Gates, I might exclaim "Another Completely Ignorant Fool Reporting!! I've Served My Time in Cyber-Hell!!"

    I guess I'm trying to think in terms of a Goa'uld King and or Queen, while remaining a Completely Ignorant Fool with a Messiah Complex!! Adventist-Heretic Robert Brinsmead once chided SDA's to "Just Join the Human Race!!" Robert encouraged me to promote the Teachings of Jesus in a somewhat stand-alone manner. Unfortunately, I'm presently conflicted regarding "Which New-Testament Teachings are the Genuine Teachings of Jesus??" Does God Quoted in the Old Testament Trump Jesus and Paul in the New Testament?? The Bible seems Suspiciously-Compartmentalized, as if the other compartments don't exist, or simply serve the purpose of providing legitimacy to the new compartments!! Was there a Bible prior to the Creation of Humanity?? What Was the Perfect Law of the Lord in a Pre-Eden Universe?? The Garden of Eden seems to be a continuation of the War in Heaven, with a Myth of Innocence. What Would Thomas Szasz Say??

    I suspect that the Battle for the Control of the New World Order is the Battle for the Control of the Deep State. Everyone seems to wish to depose the Existing Regime, and to become the New Regime. But it seems to me that the New Crew would become just as bad as the Old Crew (and maybe worse). I've made some chilling speculations, especially in Books 4 and 5 of my 'United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133' threads (in rather round-about ways) and I wish I could just forget the whole damn thing. Some of you brave-souls might consider an extensive-study of the extensive-material of Sherry Shriner and Linda Moulton Howe. I'm not vouching for either of them, and I do NOT intend to do this scary-study. I'm honestly attempting to head for the exit, to salvage what little sanity I have left, and because I'd like to get off of at least some of those nasty-lists. If I were sane and smart, I might actually be dangerous!!

    Carol wrote:This is always a possibility Oxy "But it seems to me that the New Crew would become just as bad as the Old Crew (and maybe worse). " Yet I have faith that after the dark night a brilliant dawn is awaiting.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYFNvbeqVM4
    Look what Kat Kerr Prophesied about Donald Trump
    Start at the 5:13 minute mark
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, I suspect that every government, religion, leader, and local-deity promises sunshine after storm, and I appreciate that reality (in good and bad ways). I'm haunted by most eschatology, which involves most of humanity suffering and dying (or is it dying and suffering), while the chosen-few ride triumphantly into the sunset. I've talked to genuinely good Christians who firmly believe in the commandment 'Thou Shalt Not Kill' yet have absolutely no problem with the mass-murder in Genesis to Revelation, at the command of (and  execution by) 'God', the 'Angels', and 'God's Chosen People', often in what seems to be Wars of Conquest. Can Absolute-Standards and Situation-Ethics Peacefully-Coexist?? Every time I've contemplated involvement in the 'Secret-Government' I feel horribly guilty, dirty, and disgusted, in light of what the realities might be. This solar system seems to be a Beehive of Nastiness, and perhaps it must be that way (for various abstract reasons). I don't know, and I'm going to keep saying 'I don't know'.

    What if France and England (and perhaps others) had entered into a cooperative-agreement early-on to create a North American Union in the mid 1700's which would've featured the best of both countries?? I'm not saying that should've happened, but what if?? Are God and Freedom an Impossible-Marriage?? Is the Old-Testament God really the New-Testament God?? Has 'Our Father, Who Art in Heaven' been directly-involved in the governance of Earth for the past 6,000 years?? Or, is 'Our Father, Who Art in Heaven' an 'Absentee-God' who Humanity rejected in antiquity?? At some point, I probably need to know the REAL History of This Solar System (even if I don't have a 'need to know'). I've said this before, but consider re-watching 'Cleopatra' (1963), 'The Agony and the Ecstasy' (1965), '2001: A Space Odyssey' (1968) which I think I saw at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood as a child, 'V' (1983-85), and 'V' (2009-11). I'm tired of hinting at this and that, with no positive-results whatsoever. It's as if everyone knows something about me, that I don't know about myself, and I'm not supposed to EVER know. Despite the plagiarism and historical-fiction, what if 'Patriarchs and Prophets', 'Prophets and Kings', and 'Desire of Ages' (by Ellen White, or whoever REALLY wrote these books) are important devotional windows into the historical and the otherworldly?? What if volumes 3, 4, and 6 of the SDA Bible Commentary (1 Chronicles to Malachi, and Acts to Ephesians) are important scholarly windows into the historical and the otherworldly?? What if 'The End of the World, A.D. 2133' (by Lucio Bernardo Silvestre, or whoever REALLY wrote it) is an important perspective regarding why the End hasn't occurred as expected (from an honestly Biblical point of view)?? I honestly have No Idea. I see through a glass, darkly. As a post-mortem (or whatever) consider listening to the last dozen Sherry Shriner Shows. I was always Wary of Sherry, but I listened to every show for quite a few years, and I'm not sure why, other than that I thought Sherry mixed the ridiculous with cutting-edge forbidden-knowledge. It was part of my 'exercise in futility' research-project. It's done, and I wouldn't do it again. I'm thinking of writing a book which undercuts my own speculation (or at least critically questions everything I've proposed or wondered-about). I SO Hope I'm Wrong About Most of What I've Considered to be Possibilities and Probabilities!!

    I recently suggested that three-factions of witches (for want of a better term) might run the three factions which Richard Hoagland claims run NASA (namely the Nazis, Masons, and Magicians). I've speculated that the Magicians might be the Jesuits, but I know that I don't know. I've further speculated that AI might go back thousands of years, back to the creation of Humanity, or earlier. I recently suggested this to an MIT graduate who specializes in AI. He seemed stunned that I would say such a thing!! I stun myself all the time!! But what if an AI 'Anna' rules the Witches who rule the Nazis, Masons, and Jesuits who rule NASA who rule the Solar System??!! When I suggested most of the above on this site, my home internet was immediately shut-off, and it's been shut-off for approximately one-month!! I recently listened to a rather nasty lecture against Ellen White and the SDA Church, calling Ellen a 'Masonic-Witch'!! But in light of my speculation, could that harangue provide at least some support for my delusional-imagination?? I've even jokingly suggested a connection between Ellen Gould White and the Goa'uld of Stargate SG-1, with Vala Mal Doran being an interesting version of Ellen Goa'uld White!! Everyone hates me when I make these sorts of posts, but I mean no harm!! I simply think the Real-Truth will be devastating to the general-public. 'RA' told me that 87% of the people would go nuts. Think of the VRIL Society and the Nazis!! Think of Mary, the Nuns, the Jesuits, the Black Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church!! Think of the alleged connection between English-Freemasonry, the Queen of England, and the Illuminati (or something like that)!! I've speculated that this sort of thing goes back to the War in Heaven and the Garden of Eden (with various names)!! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2014/07/08/07-07-14-monday-night-with-sherry-shriner Sherry Shriner said that Satanism and Masonry runs the churches (or something like that)!! One of my main Individuals of Interest hinted that it was all-over when Mankind rebelled against God. They said that there would be pandemonium when people saw what those who were loyal to God got. Honest. What if we have a Rejected and Deposed Absentee-God, who is NOT active in this Solar System?? What if we have a Substitute-God who is Secretive and Sinister, and VERY Active in this Solar System?? What if the so-called 'Investigative-Judgment' began with the War in Heaven, and is Supercomputer-Based?? I guess I simultaneously accept and reject Ellen White and the SDA Church. I can't talk to Adventist friends and relatives about this stuff, which is why I mumble on this rather radical website!!

    Seashore wrote:I have found a new source for information about efforts people are making to uncover the lies and deception brought about by the Deep State.

    Her name is Sherry Beall and she has a YouTube channel called "A Right to Know."

    I like the way she talks about "we the people"; she is a woman after my own heart in that department.

    I think she conducts good interviews.

    Here is her interview of the author of the book Pedophilia & Empire:  Satan, Sodomy, & The Deep State:

    A RIGHT TO KNOW®️
    Published on Mar 30, 2018

    We’ll shed some light on a topic that needs to be flooded with light….the current and dire epidemic of the Child Trafficking Global Network - which is one of the "Elephants in the Room" plaguing our society and harming millions and millions of our children annually, but why are many turning a blind-eye?  Find out in a conversation that Sherry has with her heroic guest Joachim Hagopian, author of “Pedophilia & Empire: Satan, Sodomy, & the Deep State”, is currently the most detailed documentation of the Child Trafficking Global Network, packed full of info & references….for a mature audience only.  Keep it tuned!

    This might not be the right time or place BUT I'm presently perplexed regarding Brook Schiner, Sherry Shriner, Sherry Wilde, Linda Moulton Howe, Lionhawk, Pris, Blue Roller, and several Individuals of Interest who've contacted me, and conversed with me, throughout the years. Brook has cancer, and has been a friend of several websites, with a HUGE amount of very-interesting information. There has been very-little conversation regarding her predicament, and very-little money contributed to her on a contribution-website. Sherry Shriner spoke on her show for the last time on January 5, 2018, and I learned on January 11, 2018 (on this site) that she supposedly died, but I still have No Idea if she REALLY Died, and what the circumstances of her death might've been. Sherry Wilde has many videos on YouTube which discuss subjects which Sherry Shriner discussed. Sherry Shriner supposedly lived in Carrollton, Ohio, and a different Sherry Wilde supposedly lived in, and died in Carrollton, Ohio on February 19, 2017. What are the odds?? Linda Moulton Howe has numerous YouTube videos with extremely disturbing and revealing content, spoken in a manner which reminds me of several Individuals of Interest in movies and real-life. Lionhawk has been extremely insightful and compelling on the old Project Avalon, The Mists of Avalon, and probably other sites. Pris was very trenchant and persistent, and didn't seem to like me one little bit. Brook called her "Miss Pris" and didn't seem to like her. Pris and Blue Roller had some heated conversations on this site. Blue Roller conversed with me in a very intelligent and sometimes flippant manner. I'm frankly burned-out on Whistle-Blowers and Forbidden-Information. I've speculated regarding a connection between the Ark of the Covenant, the Space Odyssey Monolith, and Ancient-Supercomputers, and I recently thought about the scene in 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' when Rene Belloq opened the Ark in a ceremony conducted by the Nazis. Angels of Death appeared, and killed everyone except Indiana Jones and Marion Ravenwood. Indiana told Marion "Don't Look At It!!" If what I'm speculating is even remotely true, what if the best present advice regarding the Internet and the Info-War might be "Don't Look At It!!"??
    Seashore wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:This might not be the right time or place. . .  I'm frankly burned-out on Whistle-Blowers and Forbidden-Information.. . .

    I think that the subject of the interview in the opening post is probably the most important one of all that should be discussed on a forum (but not debate, as if there is any question that pedophilia exists) in order to go through the process of acknowledging the problem so that a solution can be sought through a group effort.

    I am a believer in the importance of forums in solving public issues.  Just having people around the world read about public issues is important.  Staying on-topic in replies makes it possible for people to focus on the issue at hand.  It's hard enough facing the issue at hand without distractions pulling us away from what we're struggling with.

    Seekers of solutions for the problems of the world often have no place else to get or share information and/or to share creative ideas to try to help.
    Seashore wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Sorry.

    Thanks, Ortho; I appreciate that.

    I hope some time you will give Sherry Beall's interviews a try; she's dedicated to helping us get informed so that we can all do we can, armed with new knowledge.  Not that we can do a lot, but I think just knowing things is helpful.

    P.S.  I've started increasing my font size because I'm finding any more the default font size is just too small!
    I've been trying to stop-posting and vastly-reduce my Internet-Exposure. The Info-War often seems to be predatory in nature, and it has been mentally and spiritually destructive to me (and others). Have I paid my Info-War Dues?? Is It OK For Me to Stop?? Once again, I'm requesting input and advice (positive and negative) regarding my internet-posting and possible-publishing. I'm thinking I should just shut-up and go-incognito. Just as an afterthought, regarding Witches Ruling the Solar System, re-watch that 1978 miniseries 'The Word' and notice Angela's face when she is talking to Steven in the car, after they've visited the print-shop, before they drive away. Are the facial-bumps a film-issue, or are they some sort of shape-shifting?! This was before Photo-Shop, but who knows what's going on there?! I guess I'm really an irrelevant old completely-ignorant fool, when I keep referring to books, movies, and series from the 60's, 70's, and 80's!! It's not that I don't want clean-sheet of stone progressive-paradigms!! I'm simply doing a primitive research-project which reviews various tidbits from the past, which might have relevance to contemporary quests for a useable-future!! What if nefarious-plans for me were shelved, when I turned out to be a miserable-failure with an unstable-disposition?? What if I was supposed to be built-up, and then cut-down?? I'm almost begging some competent-researchers to diligently study at-least this present thread, and then communicate their findings to me in an appropriate manner. I continue to think that the reality of this solar system is stranger than fiction. I think this thing might be extremely ridiculous and depressing. I keep feeling as if I'm being severely-punished in this incarnation, but I have no idea what for. Perhaps I was on a spaceship bound for paradise, when I sassed the captain, and got dropped-off on Prison-Planet Earth!!






    What if one considered the Old Testament to be 1 Chronicles to Malachi?? What if one considered the New Testament to be Acts to Revelation?? 27 Old Testament Books plus 23 New Testament Books equals 50 Books of an Unofficial Neo-Canon. What do these 50 books tell us about the omitted 16 books?? What do the omitted 16 books tell us about the included 50 books?? It is my observation that 'Whole-Bible Churches' pick and choose from the 'Whole-Bible' to make it say what they want it to say!! What if one studied Volumes 3 and 4 of the SDA Bible Commentary (1 Chronicles to Malachi) side-by-side with Volumes 6 and 7 of the SDA Bible Commentary (Acts to Revelation)?? What sort of religion might emerge?? Note that this hypothetical commentary approach includes a lot of material from the omitted books and commentary volumes. This sort of thing is cool in an Ivy-League University, but hell in the Local-Church!! Some of you know what I'm talking about!! I continue to think that the Bible and History are more problematic than even I can imagine, which is why I lean toward University Studies and Debate, rather than terrorizing the Local Church!! Meanwhile, Back at the Deep Underground Military Base, Consider Linda Moulton Howe!! Notice the similarity between Linda and Dr. Josephine Mataros (in the 'Resurrection' episode of 'Earth: Final Conflict'), as well as other Individuals of Interest I've included in previous posts (such as Sherry Shriner). I'd rather not be too specific. I think I've said way too much in my threads, without having the necessary credentials and abilities to back it up. I might like to retire to some sort of a 'safe' location, but it's probably much too late for me to do much more than read books and surf the internet, while I become more and more vegetable-like. "I Am NOT a Potted-Plant!!" What Would Brendan Sullivan Say?? One more thing. Consider a God -- Goddess -- Male -- Female -- Alien -- Human -- Angelic -- Demonic -- Supercomputer -- Artificial-Intelligence Continuum (or something like that). There might be a lot of overlap with multiple bodies and personalities. Beware of MASSIVE Doses of Deception!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Moulton_Howe Linda Moulton Howe (born January 20, 1942) is an American investigative journalist and Regional Emmy award-winning documentary film maker best known for her work as a ufologist and advocate of a variety of conspiracy theories, including her investigation of cattle mutilations and conclusion that they are performed by extraterrestrials. She is also noted for her speculations that the U.S. government is working with aliens.[1][2][3][4] She is currently[when?] based in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

    She was born Linda Ann Moulton in Boise, Idaho.[5] Howe entered the 1963 Miss Boise pageant for college scholarships and went on to win the 1963 Miss Idaho crown[5] and scholarships, and participated in the Miss America 1964 pageant that year in Atlantic City. Howe received her 1965 B.A. cum laude in English Literature from the University of Colorado. In 1966, Howe was awarded the Stanley Baubaire Scholarship for her Master's Degree work at Stanford University, Palo Alto, California. She received her master's degree in Communication from Stanford University in 1968, where she produced a documentary film for the Stanford Medical Center and her Master's Thesis, "A Picture Calculus," at the Stanford Linear Accelerator.

    Howe's early work focused on environmental issues. From 1978 to 1983, Howe was Director of Special Projects at KMGH-TV, Channel 7, Denver, Colorado. Her documentaries included Poison in the Wind and A Sun Kissed Poison which compared smog pollution in Los Angeles and Denver, Fire In The Water about hydrogen as an alternative energy source to fossil fuels, and A Radioactive Water about uranium contamination of public drinking water in a Denver suburb. Howe was on staff at WCVB-TV when the station won a Institutional Peabody Award for institutional excellence in 1975.[6]

    In 1980, Howe produced A Strange Harvest, a documentary that suggested unusual wounds found on cattle are the work of extraterrestrial beings who harvest body parts required for their survival or research, and that the U.S. government is complicit. The documentary received a Regional Emmy award in 1981.[9] Howe became known as a "staunch advocate" for these ideas, and began to focus on UFO conspiracy theories and speculate about alleged connections between cattle mutilations, UFOs and supposed government conspiracies, saying "I am convinced that one or more alien intelligences are affecting this planet".[1][2] Although Howe claimed she was shown secret documents after being taken into confidence by an agent of the government, author John Greer wrote that Howe presented no evidence for such claims other than "the very ambiguous evidence provided by rotting cow carcasses".[10][11]

    One Idaho state director of Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) called her "the most preeminent UFO investigator in the world", and she's been named as one of "the gurus of American ufology",[12] although Howe has said she regards herself as a television producer and investigative reporter. Much of Howe's work includes speculations about what she terms "unexplained" phenomena, such as cattle mutilations, crop circles, UFO sightings and alien abductions.[13]

    Howe has produced numerous UFO related programming, including a two-hour special Earth Mysteries: Alien Life Forms in association with WATL-Fox, Atlanta, was Supervising Producer and Original Concept Creator for UFO Report: Sightings financed by Paramount Studios and the Fox network in Los Angeles that was first broadcast in October 1991 and became the Sightings series on Fox.

    Howe appeared on a panel at UFO Disclosure press event held at the National Press Club in 2013, saying she believed "alien technology appears so advanced" that "space and time could be bent by outer space travelers, therefore allowing extraterrestrials to visit Earth".[14]

    Howe has proposed that some photographs of crop circles show evidence of mysterious energy she terms "visible light phenomena". Joe Nickell described Howe as a "credulous journalist" in a 2002 article in Skeptical Inquirer magazine, saying that photos Howe published purporting to show mysterious energy are simply misinterpretations of photographic accidents, such as a camera's wrist strap reflecting the flash, or circular artifacts caused by floating dust, errors that Nickell calls "the stock-in-trade of ghost hunters".[15]

    Howe is a frequent guest on Coast to Coast AM and has been interviewed on Larry King Live special, CNN; The O'Reilly Factor, Fox; Sightings and Strange Universe, Fox; NBC's The Other Side; Britain's Union Pictures, ITN and BBC; The Discovery Channel special Evidence On Earth; the NBC network special, Mysterious Origins of Man, and the History Channel television series Ancient Aliens.

    Awards

    For her early work focusing on environmental issues, she received Colorado’s Florence Sabin Award for “outstanding contribution to public health" in 1982.[16]

    Howe's An Alien Harvest received a New Mexico-Arizona Southwest Book Award in 2015.[17]

    Personal life

    She has a daughter, Laura Kathleen Howe, from her marriage (1968–1986) to Larry W. Howe. Her father was Chet Moulton, Idaho's Director of Aeronautics from 1946 to 1971 and recipient of many aviation honors.

    Bibliography

    Alien Harvest: Further Evidence Linking Animal Mutilations and Human Abductions to Alien Life Forms. Linda Moulton Howe Productions, 1989, ISBN 0-9620570-1-0; 2nd Edition expanded in text, illustrations and documents: 2014, ISBN 978-0-9620570-0-7
    Glimpses of Other Realities. Linda Moulton Howe Productions
    Vol. I: Facts and Eyewitnesses. 1993, ISBN 0-9620570-5-3
    Vol. II: High Strangeness. 1998, ISBN 0-9620570-3-7
    Mysterious Lights and Crop Circles. Linda Moulton Howe Productions, 2002, ISBN 0-9620570-6-1

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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Wed May 30, 2018 10:50 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:I think I've been overexposed to the Sun throughout my life. As an SDA, we observed the Seventh-Day Saturday-Sabbath from Sundown-Friday to Sundown-Saturday. I haven't regularly attended the SDA church for a very-long time (and no-one really seemed to care when I stopped attending, which should've signaled an eternal death-sentence according to what SDA's claim to believe). Christianity (as we know it) seems to be Centered in the Sun, but what do I know?? A few years ago, someone looked me in the eye, and said 'I AM RA'. 'RA' is a Sun-God!! This website seems to have devoted a disproportionate amount of space to the Sun. I have somewhat recently suspected that Eschatology might have everything to do with the Sun and Solar-Events. The Sabbath-Commandment is Sun-Centered and/or Creation-Centered, and supposedly originated in the Garden of Eden with the Creation of Humanity on Earth. If so, this means that the Sabbath-Commandment did NOT preexist the Creation of Humanity on Earth, and is probably a Local-Commandment, rather than being Universal and Eternal. I'm obviously attempting to consider Life, the Universe, and Everything with My Presuppositions and with This Present Quest. Strange Bedfellows?? What Would George Michael and Elton John Sing??


    Carol wrote:
    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and to prepare the Nation for space weather events, it is hereby ordered as follows:

    Section 1. Policy. Space weather events, in the form of solar flares, solar energetic particles, and geomagnetic disturbances, occur regularly, some with measurable effects on critical infrastructure systems and technologies, such as the Global Positioning System (GPS), satellite operations and communication, aviation, and the electrical power grid. Extreme space weather events -- those that could significantly degrade critical infrastructure -- could disable large portions of the electrical power grid, resulting in cascading failures that would affect key services such as water supply, healthcare, and transportation. Space weather has the potential to simultaneously affect and disrupt health and safety across entire continents. Successfully preparing for space weather events is an all-of-nation endeavor that requires partnerships across governments, emergency managers, academia, the media, the insurance industry, non-profits, and the private sector.

    It is the policy of the United States to prepare for space weather events to minimize the extent of economic loss and human hardship. The Federal Government must have (1) the capability to predict and detect a space weather event, (2) the plans and programs necessary to alert the public and private sectors to enable mitigating actions for an impending space weather event, (3) the protection and mitigation plans, protocols, and standards required to reduce risks to critical infrastructure prior to and during a credible threat, and (4) the ability to respond to and recover from the effects of space weather. Executive departments and agencies (agencies) must coordinate their efforts to prepare for the effects of space weather events.

    Sec. 2. Objectives. This order defines agency roles and responsibilities and directs agencies to take specific actions to prepare the Nation for the hazardous effects of space weather. These activities are to be implemented in conjunction with those identified in the 2015 National Space Weather Action Plan (Action Plan) and any subsequent updates. Implementing this order and the Action Plan will require the Federal Government to work across agencies and to develop, as appropriate, enhanced and innovative partnerships with State, tribal, and local governments; academia; non-profits; the private sector; and international partners. These efforts will enhance national preparedness and speed the creation of a space-weather-ready Nation.

    Sec. 3. Coordination. (a) The Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), in consultation with the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), shall coordinate the development and implementation of Federal Government activities to prepare the Nation for space weather events, including the activities established in section 5 of this order and the recommendations of the National Science and Technology Council (NSTC), established by Executive Order 12881 of November 23, 1993 (Establishment of the National Science and Technology Council).

    (b) To ensure accountability for and coordination of research, development, and implementation of activities identified in this order and in the Action Plan, the NSTC shall establish a Space Weather Operations, Research, and Mitigation Subcommittee (Subcommittee). The Subcommittee member agencies shall conduct activities to advance the implementation of this order, to achieve the goals identified in the 2015 National Space Weather Strategy and any subsequent updates, and to coordinate and monitor the implementation of the activities specified in the Action Plan and provide subsequent updates.

    Sec. 4. Roles and Responsibilities. To the extent permitted by law, the agencies below shall adopt the following roles and responsibilities, which are key to ensuring enhanced space weather forecasting, situational awareness, space weather preparedness, and continuous Federal Government operations during and after space weather events.

    (a) The Secretary of Defense shall ensure the timely provision of operational space weather observations, analyses, forecasts, and other products to support the mission of the Department of Defense and coalition partners, including the provision of alerts and warnings for space weather phenomena that may affect weapons systems, military operations, or the defense of the United States.

    (b) The Secretary of the Interior shall support the research, development, deployment, and operation of capabilities that enhance the understanding of variations of the Earth's magnetic field associated with solar-terrestrial interactions.

    (c) The Secretary of Commerce shall:

    (i) provide timely and accurate operational space weather forecasts, watches, warnings, alerts, and real-time space weather monitoring for the government, civilian, and commercial sectors, exclusive of the responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense; and

    (ii) ensure the continuous improvement of operational space weather services, utilizing partnerships, as appropriate, with the research community, including academia and the private sector, and relevant agencies to develop, validate, test, and transition space weather observation platforms and models from research to operations and from operations to research.

    (d) The Secretary of Energy shall facilitate the protection and restoration of the reliability of the electrical power grid during a presidentially declared grid security emergency associated with a geomagnetic disturbance pursuant to 16 U.S.C. 824o-1.

    (e) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall:

    (i) ensure the timely redistribution of space weather alerts and warnings that support national preparedness, continuity of government, and continuity of operations; and

    (ii) coordinate response and recovery from the effects of space weather events on critical infrastructure and the broader community.

    (f) The Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) shall:

    (i) implement and support a national research program to understand the Sun and its interactions with Earth and the solar system to advance space weather modeling and prediction capabilities applicable to space weather forecasting;

    (ii) develop and operate space-weather-related research missions, instrument capabilities, and models; and

    (iii) support the transition of space weather models and technology from research to operations and from operations to research.

    (g) The Director of the National Science Foundation (NSF) shall support fundamental research linked to societal needs for space weather information through investments and partnerships, as appropriate.

    (h) The Secretary of State, in consultation with the heads of relevant agencies, shall carry out diplomatic and public diplomacy efforts to strengthen global capacity to respond to space weather events.

    (i) The Secretaries of Defense, the Interior, Commerce, Transportation, Energy, and Homeland Security, along with the Administrator of NASA and the Director of NSF, shall work together, consistent with their ongoing activities, to develop models, observation systems, technologies, and approaches that inform and enhance national preparedness for the effects of space weather events, including how space weather events may affect critical infrastructure and change the threat landscape with respect to other hazards.

    (j) The heads of all agencies that support National Essential Functions, defined by Presidential Policy Directive 40 (PPD-40) of July 15, 2016 (National Continuity Policy), shall ensure that space weather events are adequately addressed in their all-hazards preparedness planning, including mitigation, response, and recovery, as directed by PPD-8 of March 30, 2011 (National Preparedness).

    (k) NSTC member agencies shall coordinate through the NSTC to establish roles and responsibilities beyond those identified in section 4 of this order to enhance space weather preparedness, consistent with each agency's legal authority.

    Sec. 5. Implementation. (a) Within 120 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Energy, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall develop a plan to test and evaluate available devices that mitigate the effects of geomagnetic disturbances on the electrical power grid through the development of a pilot program that deploys such devices, in situ, in the electrical power grid. After the development of the plan, the Secretary shall implement the plan in collaboration with industry. In taking action pursuant to this subsection, the Secretaries of Energy and Homeland Security shall consult with the Chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.

    (b) Within 120 days of the date of this order, the heads of the sector-specific agencies that oversee the lifeline critical infrastructure functions as defined by the National Infrastructure Protection Plan of 2013 -- including communications, energy, transportation, and water and wastewater systems -- as well as the Nuclear Reactors, Materials, and Waste Sector, shall assess their executive and statutory authority, and limits of that authority, to direct, suspend, or control critical infrastructure operations, functions, and services before, during, and after a space weather event. The heads of each sector-specific agency shall provide a summary of these assessments to the Subcommittee.

    (c) Within 90 days of receipt of the assessments ordered in section 5(b) of this order, the Subcommittee shall provide a report on the findings of these assessments with recommendations to the Director of OSTP, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, and the Director of OMB. The assessments may be used to inform the development and implementation of policy establishing authorities and responsibilities for agencies in response to a space weather event.

    (d) Within 60 days of the date of this order, the Secretaries of Defense and Commerce, the Administrator of NASA, and the Director of NSF, in collaboration with other agencies as appropriate, shall identify mechanisms for advancing space weather observations, models, and predictions, and for sustaining and transitioning appropriate capabilities from research to operations and operations to research, collaborating with industry and academia to the extent possible.

    (e) Within 120 days of the date of this order, the Secretaries of Defense and Commerce shall make historical data from the GPS constellation and other U.S. Government satellites publicly available, in accordance with Executive Order 13642 of May 9, 2013 (Making Open and Machine Readable the New Default for Government Information), to enhance model validation and improvements in space weather forecasting and situational awareness.

    (f) Within 120 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Homeland Security, through the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency and in coordination with relevant agencies, shall lead the development of a coordinated Federal operating concept and associated checklist to coordinate Federal assets and activities to respond to notification of, and protect against, impending space weather events. Within 180 days of the publication of the operating concept and checklist, agencies shall develop operational plans documenting their procedures and responsibilities to prepare for, protect against, and mitigate the effects of impending space weather events, in support of the Federal operating concept and compatible with the National Preparedness System described in PPD-8.

    Sec. 6. Stakeholder Engagement. The agencies identified in this order shall seek public-private and international collaborations to enhance observation networks, conduct research, develop prediction models and mitigation approaches, enhance community resilience and preparedness, and supply the services necessary to protect life and property and promote economic prosperity, as consistent with law.

    Sec. 7. Definitions. As used in this order:

    (a) "Prepare" and "preparedness" have the same meaning they have in PPD-8. They refer to the actions taken to plan, organize, equip, train, and exercise to build and sustain the capabilities necessary to prevent, protect against, mitigate the effects of, respond to, and recover from those threats that pose the greatest risk to the security of the Nation. This includes the prediction and notification of space weather events.

    (b) "Space weather" means variations in the space environment between the Sun and Earth (and throughout the solar system) that can affect technologies in space and on Earth. The primary types of space weather events are solar flares, solar energetic particles, and geomagnetic disturbances.

    (c) "Solar flare" means a brief eruption of intense energy on or near the Sun's surface that is typically associated with sunspots.

    (d) "Solar energetic particles" means ions and electrons ejected from the Sun that are typically associated with solar eruptions.

    (e) "Geomagnetic disturbance" means a temporary disturbance of Earth's magnetic field resulting from solar activity.

    (f) "Critical infrastructure" has the meaning provided in section 1016(e) of the USA Patriot Act of 2001 (42 U.S.C. 5195c(e)), namely systems and assets, whether physical or virtual, so vital to the United States that the incapacity or destruction of such systems and assets would have a debilitating impact on security, national economic security, national public health or safety, or any combination of those matters.

    (g) "Sector-Specific Agency" means the agencies designated under PPD-21 of February 12, 2013 (Critical Infrastructure Security and Resilience), or any successor directive, to be responsible for providing institutional knowledge and specialized expertise as well as leading, facilitating, or supporting the security and resilience programs and associated activities of its designated critical infrastructure sector in the all-hazards environment. Sec. 8. General Provisions.


    (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

    (i) the authority granted by law to an agency, or the head thereof; or (ii) the functions of the Director of OMB relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

    (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

    (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

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    Post  orthodoxymoron on Thu May 31, 2018 7:50 pm

    Carol wrote:I like this article Oxy as it illustrates a positive direction for the US.

    May 31, 2018

    Trump Moves In For Kill Against Europe While Driving Stake Into Heart Of American Leftists

    An interesting new Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) report circulating the Kremlin today detailing the just completed telephonic conference between Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo notes that at the same time the American’s are expressing their desire for better relations with Russia, President Trump is “moving in for the kill” against the European Union by slamming them with punishing tariffs—while at the same time, Trump is driving a stake into the very heart of America’s leftists with his remaking of the entire Judicial Branch of the tripartite structure that comprises the Constitutional United States Republic, and that will, undoubtedly, stamp his mark on his nation for, at least, the next 50 years. [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes in this report are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.



    President Donald Trump is quietly remaking the entire US government to oust leftists from power forever

    According to this report, while having to deal with the “illicit scheme” that cleared Hillary Clinton of her crimes, while at the same framing President Trump in what is known now as the “Russia Hoax”, that shockingly included the Obama regime illegally spying on the Trump campaign in what is now being called “Spygate”—Foreign Minister Lavrov relates how he was told by Secretary Pompeo that Trump is not only unfazed by these events, he is, actually, beginning to retaliate against everyone who has sought to destroy him—most particularly the European Union.

    In point of fact, this report continues, Secretary Pompeo stated that President Trump “went through the roof” this past weekend when the European Union masterminded the overthrow of the democratically elected new populist Italian government—which EU Commissioner Guenther Oettinger outrageously said was deserved and that the “the whip of the financial markets should dissuade Italians from voting for populists ever again”—but that former Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis, in hitting out against this “Colossal Election Blunder” warned will now allow the next Italian general election to be a referendum on nothing less than the future of the Eurozone itself.

    Equally enraging President Trump about the European Union this past weekend, this report details, was the British governments Orwellian arrest, secret trial, and secret imprisonment of a populist anti-immigrant activist named Tommy Robinson—and whom, for the “crime” of posting to his live Facebook video feed of satanic Islamic child rapists being brought into trial, has now been thrown into a prison where “a price on his head” has been placed with inmates being offered drugs and mobile phones to kill him.



    Acting with the same mode of spirit and fearlessness that President Ronald Reagan once did when confronting the evilness of Soviet communists, this report says, President Trump has, likewise, moved swiftly against the now equally vile European Union—with his first meeting yesterday in his White House Oval Office with the global fashion icon Kim Kardashian-West (and her 60 million Twitter followers, along with her husband Kanye West’s 28 million Twitter followers) where they discussed reforming the US legal and prison system—so that no American could ever fear their becoming their nations Tommy Robinson.

    While showing to the peoples of Europe that America will never become a “secret arrest, trial and imprisonment nation” like Britain, this report notes, Secretary Pompeo further related to Foreign Minister Lavrov that President Trump will be slamming the European Union with over $7 billion in tariffs today—with Trump, also, having just launched another national security investigation into European Union car and truck imports that could lead to even more new US tariffs.




    American leftist media fails to see true significance of “Kim-Trump Summit” on 30 May 2018

    With the American leftist mainstream media blasting the “Kim-Trump Summit” on prison and legal reform, with CNN even shockingly saying Kim Kardashian didn’t even have a right to visit with her own nation’s leader, this report continues, President Trump, nevertheless, moved to quickly to rectify the legal and prison abuses heaped upon the citizens of the US by the Obama-Clinton regime—and as exampled by his pardoning today of the conservative author and filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza—whom Trump stated about by writing on his Twitter page: “He was treated very unfairly by our government!”.

    Equally stunning about the American leftist mainstream media, this report details, was this past week their manically celebrating the demise of pro-Trump conservative comedian Rosanne Barr who stared in that nations most watched television comedy programme—but who after Tweeting that former top Obama aide Valerie Jarrett was the offspring of Islamic terrorists and Planet of the Apes, was quickly fired—but who are all now remaining silent after the rabidly anti-Trump leftist comedian Samantha Bee went on her TBS Network (owned by CNN parent company Turner Broadcasting) programme just hours ago telling President Trump’s daughter Ivanka to “put on something tight and low-cut” and go into her fathers bedroom at the White House and then: “Do Something About Your Dad’s Immigration Practices, You Feckless C unt”.  



    With it being noted recently how these leftist American mainstream journalists continue to blame the public for not believing them, rather than admitting they themselves created this environment of deep distrust by acting as salespeople for the status quo, versus challenging the powerful like they’re supposed to, this report continues, this fact hasn’t been lost on the American people—who by the millions of been flocking to the pro-Trump television cable news giant Fox News rather than have their minds filled with leftist-communist dribble—and as proved by ratings data released yesterday by Nielsen Media Research that showed Fox News extended its run of consecutive months at number one to a staggering 197—with their, also, hitting another impressive milestone showing that Fox News has now beaten every other network in basic cable for 23 months straight.

    With the fanatically anti-Trump leftist cable news network CNN having it ratings collapse by over 25% this past month alone, this report notes, the downright communist cable news network MSNBC-NBC is now resorting to outright treason against their own nation and people to damage President Trump—and whom, in just the past 24 hours, stunningly allowed their so called reporter Ken Dilanian—who was fired by the Los Angeles Times after they discovered he was working for the CIA—to release some of the most closely guarded secrets about North Korea and its nuclear weapons programme just prior to Trump meeting North Korean leader Kim Jung-un on 12 June in Singapore.



    While the American leftist mainstream media continues on their anti-Trump tirade, with nothing seemingly being able to stop them before they destroy themselves completely, being lost to them, and hence to the citizens of the US they’re supposed to be serving, this report warns, is the very crux of the gravest existential battle for the United States this nation has ever seen—and whose sides are best exemplified by US Senator, and supposed US presidential candidate in 2020, Elizabeth Warren who wants to impose upon America a Chinese communist type authoritarian government—but whose opposition is America’s powerful billionaire oligarchs—one of whose main operators is US Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch—and whom, over a decade ago, gathered with these money elites fearful of the rise of communism in the US—and where Gorsuch proclaimed “nothing is inevitable” and his urging “vigilance to all threats to our prosperity”.

    In being “vigilant to all threats to their prosperity”, this report explains, it was no surprise at all when, in 2016, billionaire real estate developer Donald Trump stunningly captured the White House—with one of his first acts being the appointment of Neil Gorsuch to the US Supreme Court—and who occupied the seat deliberately left unfilled by the Republican Party during the Obama regime.

    Even more important to note, this report says, is that not only did the Republican Party refuse to seat President Obama’s nominee to the US Supreme Court, they, also, left vacant nearly a full third of the US Federal Judgeships—and that has allowed President Trump, with just over a year in office, to already appointed 21 of America’s 167 current US Federal Circuit Judges with his intending to fill an additional 20 or more vacancies by the end of this year—thus meaning that, by 2019, Trump judges will be participating in more than 15,000 decisions every year, and almost all those decisions will be the law of the land.



    To the full consequence of what President Trump and the Republican Party are doing to completely remake the entire Judicial Branch of the US government in order to “protect their prosperity”, this report says, is nothing less than to drive a stake directly into the heart of American leftist-communist forces and kill them forever—with the latest blows struck being the US Supreme Court finally halting the leftists expansion of so called “abortion rights”, their ruling that workers have to use arbitration, instead of the courts, when settling disputes against companies, and their slamming down the Obama-Clinton regimes expansion of police powers to search American’s homes and property without warrants—but whose “death blow” ruling against these leftists is expected in the coming few weeks when the US Supreme Court will rule that leftist labor unions can no longer force their members to pay dues—with Republican Party operative Grover Norquist correctly stating what will happen next: “Try funding the modern Democratic Party without union dues—Good Luck!”.


    With Syrian President Bashar al-Assad having just vowed to retake areas of his country now held by US-backed Kurds, and his saying that “the United States should learn the lesson of Iraq and get out of Syria”, and who frightfully revealed how close the United States and Russia are to open conflict, this report concludes, Secretary Pompeo did state to Foreign Minister Lavrov that President Trump had ordered Kurdish forces to withdrawal—thus giving a small glimpse that the world can be re-stabilized once these American leftists are done away with—and that Trump’s loving hug of a small child in the White House yesterday showed he is anticipating too—at least one would like to believe.

    MUST SEE=> Little Boy Steals Hearts at President Trump’s Signing ‘Right to Try’ Into Law (VIDEO)
    A little boy joined his family today in the White House where President Trump signed into law his “Right to Try” legislation. The new law will allow those with potentially terminal diseases to try experimental treatments and bypass the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.  President Trump kisses Jordan McLinn, who suffers from Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy (DMD), after signing the #RightToTry Act today at the @WhiteHouse. http://45.wh.gov/RightToTry
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/must-see-little-boy-steals-hearts-at-president-trumps-signing-right-to-try-into-law-video/



    The boy scooted up next to the president but the president didn’t see him.


    Then when the president spotted the boy he grabbed him and gave him a kiss.



    “But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.”

    Matthew 19:14

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, thank-you for ALL of your posts throughout the years!! I've included many of them in 'my' threads. I just think that things are moving SO Quickly that major catastrophes are inevitable and potentially terminal. The 'Local Gods and Goddesses in Conflict' theme seems to simultaneously explain and aggravate the nagging problems humanity has faced for thousands of years. I recently encountered someone who reminded me of who I previously thought might be the Solar-System Iron-Lady, and she wasn't nice at all, but I had to admire her anyway. I thought a particular theological-phrase repeatedly, and this seemed to have an effect. I've seen this happen repeatedly. She said "I Don't Know Who You Are!!" Separately, another individual said something about "Stubborn to the End" to which I replied "That Sounds Like Me" to which she replied "But I Keep Coming Back Anyway". I keep wondering if I've met several of the Kennedy's?! The ones who aren't supposed to be alive?! 'RA' told me he was old, even though he looked quite young. He said he'd "Built Vegas with Bugsy"!! He might've been an agent or crackpot (or both) but he sure made me think of a lot of troubling possibilities!! That Galactic-Supercomputer and Artificial-Intelligence Thing is Driving Me Crazy!! It wouldn't surprise me if I end-up in a nice facility in the country with nice men in white-coats!! The following two videos just about pushed me over the edge!! Sometimes I wonder if I subconsciously remember the 'Good Old Days of Galactic Warfare'?! 'RA' told me "We Have a History" and "We've Fought Side by Side"!! Creepy-Stuff.

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    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for your VERY Interesting posts, evisnam!! Has this world been run by some sort of Supercomputer and Artificial-Intelligence for thousands of years?? If so, is the creator of this system alive and well, and living on Planet Earth?? If so, who might they be?? I never know how to interpret and verify this sort of information. That goes for history-books, the Bible, religious and philosophical writers and speakers, et al. I envy those who live in the now, and concern themselves primarily with friends, family, school, sports, work, entertainment, etc. I've tried to dig-deeper regarding antiquity, the otherworldly, and how things REALLY Work in the world, solar-system, and universe, and I've paid a VERY High Price for doing so, with nothing to show for it, and a lot of shunning and shameful treatment. I hesitate to pull others into my quest, and I sometimes envy those who simply study the way things really are, and then profit from the madness, without attempting to make things better. People seem to want what they want, and they don't seem to want to learn about inconvenient-truth. This website should have a HUGE amount of participating-members and lurking-viewers, but notice the pathetic-numbers. This world seems to be run as a Big-Business where the Bottom-Line is the Bottom-Line. Sorry, I'm rambling, but this might be my last chance to communicate my feelings and perceptions with you. We will miss you. Namaste and Godspeed.
    evisnam wrote:Questions by Orthodoxymoron :

    Has this world been run by some sort of Supercomputer and Artificial-Intelligence for thousands of years??


    It would be best to adopt the theory that we , as in the inhabitants of sol 3 , are the results of experimentation on a large scale and have been for millions of years.  I ask you a question , In the Ra Material did you notice each time Ra was asked a question it responded with " I Am Ra " before each answer ?

    What sort of an entity would do that ?  AN OI , Organic Intelligent Being or in earth terms Supercomputer. So the answer is yes and no , Yes it has been influenced in parts by an OI but it has not been run by one. There is not one single entity of intelligent origins that would tout its self Ruler of All.

    The Ra OI was in fact running the genetic alterations of the experiment and this was a grand scale experiment in terms of this planet only. In relation to the universe it is a tiny little blip.

    If so, is the creator of this system alive and well, and living on Planet Earth??

    Refer answers above.

    If so, who might they be??

    the Alpha Draconis in conjunction with several other assistants. I have had 2 or 3 encounters with the Alpha Draconis and while they have a very adamantine energy I did not get the feeling they were hostile per se, mind you i was not in judgement in their presence and that counts for much.

    NB:  Please note the true names of these entities or factions are actually much harder to pronounce or even impossible for me to , so i refer to earth terms so we can all relate.

    PS : for you Orthodoxymoron i want to extend some information i think you may find useful.   We have not understood the machination of our solar system , how it works , how its energised and how it interacts, We as in most earth humans. It would be wise to understand that spirituality is something of a preference of how to interact with the Universe. Your spirituality can be whatever you want it to be, so long as you submit to basic tenets of existence.

    Respect , Forgiveness , Fortitude.

    Respect covers Judgement , Forgiveness covers Evolution , Fortitude covers Enlightenment.

    Judgement covers Possibilities,   Evolution covers Magnification,  Enlightenment covers  Infinity.  

    and something i see valuable from an impressive author,

    Seamus Heaney

    “The true and durable path into and through experience involves being true … to your own solitude, true to your own secret knowledge.”

    think on these my friend.
    Thank-you evisnam. I'm including this information in a thread I've been working on, which seems to be a Mini-Matrix. Perhaps someday a forest will emerge from the accumulation of trees. Namaste and Godspeed.


    Are the Info-War and Virtual-Reality the final nails in the Coffin of Humanity?? As I updated my technology today, I spoke with a technology-expert about how fast technology is changing, suggesting that one could work full-time analyzing the emerging-technology. He agreed. I further suggested that it might be nice to keep technology at the present-level for a while, to properly utilize it. Again, he agreed. But technological 'progress' is speeding-up like a runaway-train, with an inevitable and immanent derailment. 'The End of the Tour' scene might signal 'The End of Humanity'. I refuse to talk to my computer. I'll type till I die, and I might even write a crummy book with a pen and pad, so I can retire to a shallow-underground 600 square-foot office-apartment in the mountains, and go for 6 hour hikes each and every day, until the day I swelter in my shelter as the wicked are slain by the 'Brightness of His Coming'. Godspeed and Geronimo.


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    What if Universities and Corporations were viewed as Churches?? Imagine Cathedrals in the Middle of University-Campuses in the Middle of Corporate-Campuses!! What if one repeatedly read the following books in-order, straight-through, without referring to other books?? What if one considered this Minimal-List to be the Whole-Bible?? What if these books in the NIV (plus nothing) constituted a '2018 Book of Common Prayer'??

    1. The Old-Testament Wisdom-Books (Job to Song of Solomon).

    2. The Old-Testament Major-Prophets (Isaiah to Daniel).

    3. The Genuine Pauline-Epistles (Romans to Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, Philemon).

    How would reading these 17 books in the New International Version differ from reading them in the New King James Version??

    'The Mists of Avalon' is NOT a Bible-Thumping Website (to say the least) and 'The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133' (Books 1-5) are NOT Bible-Thumping Threads (even if it seems as though they are). It simply seems disingenuous to engage in Conspiracy-Theory Alternative-Research without taking a closer-look at Sacred-Scripture. Take another look at that Sherry Shriner 'Paul-Bashing Show'. If it's at least somewhat-true, which of the above listed books are destroyed?? http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sherrytalkradio/2014/07/08/07-07-14-monday-night-with-sherry-shriner Sorry to keep making reference to this nasty-show, but it probably affected me in a similar-manner as did Desmond Ford's 10-27-79 attack on the SDA doctrine of the Investigative-Judgment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w0vuxatfGg and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyAoMEJj044 The 'Department of Eschatology' at the NSA might be interested in this sort of thing!! What Would Linda Moulton Howe Say?? What Would the Nasty Little Horn Say?? What Would Jeffrey Daugherty Say?? What Would the Psalmist Say??

    Come, let us sing for joy to the LORD; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation. Let us come before him with thanksgiving and extol him with music and song. For the LORD is the great God, the great King above all gods. In his hand are the depths of the earth, and the mountain peaks belong to him. The sea is his, for he made it, and his hands formed the dry land. Come, let us bow down in worship, let us kneel before the LORD our Maker; for he is our God and we are the people of his pasture, the flock under his care. Today, if only you would hear his voice, “Do not harden your hearts as you did at Meribah, as you did that day at Massah in the wilderness, where your ancestors tested me; they tried me, though they had seen what I did. For forty years I was angry with that generation; I said, ‘They are a people whose hearts go astray, and they have not known my ways.’ So I declared on oath in my anger, ‘They shall never enter my rest.’ ”

    Sing to the LORD a new song; sing to the LORD, all the earth. Sing to the LORD, praise his name; proclaim his salvation day after day. Declare his glory among the nations, his marvelous deeds among all peoples. For great is the LORD and most worthy of praise; he is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols, but the LORD made the heavens. Splendor and majesty are before him; strength and glory are in his sanctuary. Ascribe to the LORD, all you families of nations, ascribe to the LORD glory and strength. Ascribe to the LORD the glory due his name; bring an offering and come into his courts. Worship the LORD in the splendor of his holiness; tremble before him, all the earth. Say among the nations, “The LORD reigns.” The world is firmly established, it cannot be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity. Let the heavens rejoice, let the earth be glad; let the sea resound, and all that is in it. Let the fields be jubilant, and everything in them; let all the trees of the forest sing for joy. Let all creation rejoice before the LORD, for he comes, he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world in righteousness and the peoples in his faithfulness.

    The LORD reigns, let the earth be glad; let the distant shores rejoice. Clouds and thick darkness surround him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne. Fire goes before him and consumes his foes on every side. His lightning lights up the world; the earth sees and trembles. The mountains melt like wax before the LORD, before the Lord of all the earth. The heavens proclaim his righteousness, and all peoples see his glory. All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols, worship him, all you gods! Zion hears and rejoices and the villages of Judah are glad because of your judgments, LORD. For you, LORD, are the Most High over all the earth; you are exalted far above all gods. Let those who love the LORD hate evil, for he guards the lives of his faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked. Light shines on the righteous and joy on the upright in heart. Rejoice in the LORD, you who are righteous, and praise his holy name.

    Sing to the LORD a new song, for he has done marvelous things; his right hand and his holy arm have worked salvation for him. The LORD has made his salvation known and revealed his righteousness to the nations. He has remembered his love and his faithfulness to Israel; all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God. Shout for joy to the LORD, all the earth, burst into jubilant song with music; make music to the LORD with the harp, with the harp and the sound of singing, with trumpets and the blast of the ram’s horn, shout for joy before the LORD, the King. Let the sea resound, and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it. Let the rivers clap their hands, let the mountains sing together for joy; let them sing before the LORD, for he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world in righteousness and the peoples with equity.

    The LORD reigns, let the nations tremble; he sits enthroned between the cherubim, let the earth shake. Great is the LORD in Zion; he is exalted over all the nations. Let them praise your great and awesome name, he is holy. The King is mighty, he loves justice. You have established equity; in Jacob you have done what is just and right. Exalt the LORD our God and worship at his footstool; he is holy. Moses and Aaron were among his priests, Samuel was among those who called on his name; they called on the LORD and he answered them. He spoke to them from the pillar of cloud; they kept his statutes and the decrees he gave them. LORD our God, you answered them; you were to Israel a forgiving God, though you punished their misdeeds. Exalt the LORD our God and worship at his holy mountain, for the LORD our God is holy.

    Shout for joy to the LORD, all the earth. Worship the LORD with gladness; come before him with joyful songs. Know that the LORD is God. It is he who made us, and we are his ; we are his people, the sheep of his pasture. Enter his gates with thanksgiving and his courts with praise; give thanks to him and praise his name. For the LORD is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations.

    I will sing of your love and justice; to you, LORD, I will sing praise. I will be careful to lead a blameless life. When will you come to me? I will conduct the affairs of my house with a blameless heart. I will not look with approval on anything that is vile. I hate what faithless people do; I will have no part in it. The perverse of heart shall be far from me; I will have nothing to do with what is evil. Whoever slanders their neighbor in secret, I will put to silence; whoever has haughty eyes and a proud heart, I will not tolerate. My eyes will be on the faithful in the land, that they may dwell with me; the one whose walk is blameless will minister to me. No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no one who speaks falsely will stand in my presence. Every morning I will put to silence all the wicked in the land; I will cut off every evildoer from the city of the LORD.

    Hear my prayer, LORD; let my cry for help come to you. Do not hide your face from me when I am in distress. Turn your ear to me; when I call, answer me quickly. For my days vanish like smoke; my bones burn like glowing embers. My heart is blighted and withered like grass; I forget to eat my food. In my distress I groan aloud and am reduced to skin and bones. I am like a desert owl, like an owl among the ruins. I lie awake; I have become like a bird alone on a roof. All day long my enemies taunt me; those who rail against me use my name as a curse. For I eat ashes as my food and mingle my drink with tears because of your great wrath, for you have taken me up and thrown me aside. My days are like the evening shadow; I wither away like grass. But you, LORD, sit enthroned forever; your renown endures through all generations. You will arise and have compassion on Zion, for it is time to show favor to her; the appointed time has come. For her stones are dear to your servants; her very dust moves them to pity. The nations will fear the name of the LORD, all the kings of the earth will revere your glory. For the LORD will rebuild Zion and appear in his glory. He will respond to the prayer of the destitute; he will not despise their plea. Let this be written for a future generation, that a people not yet created may praise the LORD: “The LORD looked down from his sanctuary on high, from heaven he viewed the earth, to hear the groans of the prisoners and release those condemned to death.” So the name of the LORD will be declared in Zion and his praise in Jerusalem when the peoples and the kingdoms assemble to worship the LORD. In the course of my life he broke my strength; he cut short my days. So I said: “Do not take me away, my God, in the midst of my days; your years go on through all generations. In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded. But you remain the same, and your years will never end. The children of your servants will live in your presence; their descendants will be established before you.”

    Praise the LORD, my soul; all my inmost being, praise his holy name. Praise the LORD, my soul, and forget not all his benefits, who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases, who redeems your life from the pit and crowns you with love and compassion, who satisfies your desires with good things so that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s. The LORD works righteousness and justice for all the oppressed. He made known his ways to Moses, his deeds to the people of Israel: The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love. He will not always accuse, nor will he harbor his anger forever; he does not treat us as our sins deserve or repay us according to our iniquities. For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his love for those who fear him. As far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us. As a father has compassion on his children, so the LORD has compassion on those who fear him; for he knows how we are formed, he remembers that we are dust. The life of mortals is like grass, they flourish like a flower of the field. The wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more. But from everlasting to everlasting the LORD’s love is with those who fear him, and his righteousness with their children’s children, with those who keep his covenant and remember to obey his precepts. The LORD has established his throne in heaven, and his kingdom rules over all. Praise the LORD, you his angels, you mighty ones who do his bidding, who obey his word. Praise the LORD, all his heavenly hosts, you his servants who do his will. Praise the LORD, all his works everywhere in his dominion. Praise the LORD, my soul.

    Praise the LORD, my soul. LORD my God, you are very great; you are clothed with splendor and majesty. The LORD wraps himself in light as with a garment; he stretches out the heavens like a tent and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters. He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind. He makes winds his messengers, flames of fire his servants. He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. You covered it with the watery depths as with a garment; the waters stood above the mountains. But at your rebuke the waters fled, at the sound of your thunder they took to flight; they flowed over the mountains, they went down into the valleys, to the place you assigned for them. You set a boundary they cannot cross; never again will they cover the earth. He makes springs pour water into the ravines; it flows between the mountains. They give water to all the beasts of the field; the wild donkeys quench their thirst. The birds of the sky nest by the waters; they sing among the branches. He waters the mountains from his upper chambers; the land is satisfied by the fruit of his work. He makes grass grow for the cattle, and plants for people to cultivate, bringing forth food from the earth: wine that gladdens human hearts, oil to make their faces shine, and bread that sustains their hearts. The trees of the LORD are well watered, the cedars of Lebanon that he planted. There the birds make their nests; the stork has its home in the junipers. The high mountains belong to the wild goats; the crags are a refuge for the hyrax. He made the moon to mark the seasons, and the sun knows when to go down. You bring darkness, it becomes night, and all the beasts of the forest prowl. The lions roar for their prey and seek their food from God. The sun rises, and they steal away; they return and lie down in their dens. Then people go out to their work, to their labor until evening. How many are your works, LORD! In wisdom you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures. there is the sea, vast and spacious, teeming with creatures beyond number, living things both large and small. There the ships go to and fro, and Leviathan, which you formed to frolic there. All creatures look to you to give them their food at the proper time. When you give it to them, they gather it up; when you open your hand, they are satisfied with good things. When you hide your face, they are terrified; when you take away their breath, they die and return to the dust. When you send your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the ground. May the glory of the LORD endure forever; may the LORD rejoice in his works, he who looks at the earth, and it trembles, who touches the mountains, and they smoke. I will sing to the LORD all my life; I will sing praise to my God as long as I live. May my meditation be pleasing to him, as I rejoice in the LORD. But may sinners vanish from the earth and the wicked be no more. Praise the LORD, my soul. Praise the LORD.

    Give praise to the LORD, proclaim his name; make known among the nations what he has done. Sing to him, sing praise to him; tell of all his wonderful acts. Glory in his holy name; let the hearts of those who seek the LORD rejoice. Look to the LORD and his strength; seek his face always. Remember the wonders he has done, his miracles, and the judgments he pronounced, you his servants, the descendants of Abraham, his chosen ones, the children of Jacob. He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth. He remembers his covenant forever, the promise he made, for a thousand generations, the covenant he made with Abraham, the oath he swore to Isaac. He confirmed it to Jacob as a decree, to Israel as an everlasting covenant: “To you I will give the land of Canaan as the portion you will inherit.” When they were but few in number, few indeed, and strangers in it, they wandered from nation to nation, from one kingdom to another. He allowed no one to oppress them; for their sake he rebuked kings: “Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.” He called down famine on the land and destroyed all their supplies of food; and he sent a man before them, Joseph, sold as a slave. They bruised his feet with shackles, his neck was put in irons, till what he foretold came to pass, till the word of the LORD proved him true. The king sent and released him, the ruler of peoples set him free. He made him master of his household, ruler over all he possessed, to instruct his princes as he pleased and teach his elders wisdom. Then Israel entered Egypt; Jacob resided as a foreigner in the land of Ham. The LORD made his people very fruitful; he made them too numerous for their foes, whose hearts he turned to hate his people, to conspire against his servants. He sent Moses his servant, and Aaron, whom he had chosen. They performed his signs among them, his wonders in the land of Ham. He sent darkness and made the land dark, for had they not rebelled against his words? He turned their waters into blood, causing their fish to die. Their land teemed with frogs, which went up into the bedrooms of their rulers. He spoke, and there came swarms of flies, and gnats throughout their country. He turned their rain into hail, with lightning throughout their land; he struck down their vines and fig trees and shattered the trees of their country. He spoke, and the locusts came, grasshoppers without number; they ate up every green thing in their land, ate up the produce of their soil. Then he struck down all the firstborn in their land, the firstfruits of all their manhood. He brought out Israel, laden with silver and gold, and from among their tribes no one faltered. Egypt was glad when they left, because dread of Israel had fallen on them. He spread out a cloud as a covering, and a fire to give light at night. They asked, and he brought them quail; he fed them well with the bread of heaven. He opened the rock, and water gushed out; it flowed like a river in the desert. For he remembered his holy promise given to his servant Abraham. He brought out his people with rejoicing, his chosen ones with shouts of joy; he gave them the lands of the nations, and they fell heir to what others had toiled for, that they might keep his precepts and observe his laws. Praise the LORD.

    Praise the LORD. Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; his love endures forever. Who can proclaim the mighty acts of the LORD or fully declare his praise? Blessed are those who act justly, who always do what is right. Remember me, LORD, when you show favor to your people, come to my aid when you save them, that I may enjoy the prosperity of your chosen ones, that I may share in the joy of your nation and join your inheritance in giving praise. We have sinned, even as our ancestors did; we have done wrong and acted wickedly. When our ancestors were in Egypt, they gave no thought to your miracles; they did not remember your many kindnesses, and they rebelled by the sea, the Red Sea. Yet he saved them for his name’s sake, to make his mighty power known. He rebuked the Red Sea, and it dried up; he led them through the depths as through a desert. He saved them from the hand of the foe; from the hand of the enemy he redeemed them. The waters covered their adversaries; not one of them survived. Then they believed his promises and sang his praise. But they soon forgot what he had done and did not wait for his plan to unfold. In the desert they gave in to their craving; in the wilderness they put God to the test. So he gave them what they asked for, but sent a wasting disease among them. In the camp they grew envious of Moses and of Aaron, who was consecrated to the LORD. The earth opened up and swallowed Dathan; it buried the company of Abiram. Fire blazed among their followers; a flame consumed the wicked. At Horeb they made a calf and worshiped an idol cast from metal. They exchanged their glorious God for an image of a bull, which eats grass. They forgot the God who saved them, who had done great things in Egypt, miracles in the land of Ham and awesome deeds by the Red Sea. So he said he would destroy them, had not Moses, his chosen one, stood in the breach before him to keep his wrath from destroying them. Then they despised the pleasant land; they did not believe his promise. They grumbled in their tents and did not obey the LORD. So he swore to them with uplifted hand that he would make them fall in the wilderness, make their descendants fall among the nations and scatter them throughout the lands. They yoked themselves to the Baal of Peor and ate sacrifices offered to lifeless gods; they aroused the LORD’s anger by their wicked deeds, and a plague broke out among them. But Phinehas stood up and intervened, and the plague was checked. This was credited to him as righteousness for endless generations to come. By the waters of Meribah they angered the LORD, and trouble came to Moses because of them; for they rebelled against the Spirit of God, and rash words came from Moses’ lips. They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them, but they mingled with the nations and adopted their customs. They worshiped their idols, which became a snare to them. They sacrificed their sons and their daughters to false gods. They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, and the land was desecrated by their blood. They defiled themselves by what they did; by their deeds they prostituted themselves. Therefore the LORD was angry with his people and abhorred his inheritance. He gave them into the hands of the nations, and their foes ruled over them. Their enemies oppressed them and subjected them to their power. Many times he delivered them, but they were bent on rebellion and they wasted away in their sin. Yet he took note of their distress when he heard their cry; for their sake he remembered his covenant and out of his great love he relented. He caused all who held them captive to show them mercy. Save us, LORD our God, and gather us from the nations, that we may give thanks to your holy name and glory in your praise. Praise be to the LORD, the God of Israel, from everlasting to everlasting. Let all the people say, “Amen!” Praise the LORD.

    Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; his love endures forever. Let the redeemed of the LORD tell their story, those he redeemed from the hand of the foe, those he gathered from the lands, from east and west, from north and south. Some wandered in desert wastelands, finding no way to a city where they could settle. They were hungry and thirsty, and their lives ebbed away. Then they cried out to the LORD in their trouble, and he delivered them from their distress. He led them by a straight way to a city where they could settle. Let them give thanks to the LORD for his unfailing love and his wonderful deeds for mankind, for he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things. Some sat in darkness, in utter darkness, prisoners suffering in iron chains, because they rebelled against God’s commands and despised the plans of the Most High. So he subjected them to bitter labor; they stumbled, and there was no one to help. Then they cried to the LORD in their trouble, and he saved them from their distress. He brought them out of darkness, the utter darkness, and broke away their chains. Let them give thanks to the LORD for his unfailing love and his wonderful deeds for mankind, for he breaks down gates of bronze and cuts through bars of iron. Some became fools through their rebellious ways and suffered affliction because of their iniquities. They loathed all food and drew near the gates of death. Then they cried to the LORD in their trouble, and he saved them from their distress. He sent out his word and healed them; he rescued them from the grave. Let them give thanks to the LORD for his unfailing love and his wonderful deeds for mankind. Let them sacrifice thank offerings and tell of his works with songs of joy. Some went out on the sea in ships; they were merchants on the mighty waters. They saw the works of the LORD, his wonderful deeds in the deep. For he spoke and stirred up a tempest that lifted high the waves. They mounted up to the heavens and went down to the depths; in their peril their courage melted away. They reeled and staggered like drunkards; they were at their wits’ end. Then they cried out to the LORD in their trouble, and he brought them out of their distress. He stilled the storm to a whisper; the waves of the sea were hushed. They were glad when it grew calm, and he guided them to their desired haven. Let them give thanks to the LORD for his unfailing love and his wonderful deeds for mankind. Let them exalt him in the assembly of the people and praise him in the council of the elders. He turned rivers into a desert, flowing springs into thirsty ground, and fruitful land into a salt waste, because of the wickedness of those who lived there. He turned the desert into pools of water and the parched ground into flowing springs; there he brought the hungry to live, and they founded a city where they could settle. They sowed fields and planted vineyards that yielded a fruitful harvest; he blessed them, and their numbers greatly increased, and he did not let their herds diminish. Then their numbers decreased, and they were humbled by oppression, calamity and sorrow; he who pours contempt on nobles made them wander in a trackless waste. But he lifted the needy out of their affliction and increased their families like flocks. The upright see and rejoice, but all the wicked shut their mouths. Let the one who is wise heed these things and ponder the loving deeds of the LORD.

    My heart, O God, is steadfast; I will sing and make music with all my soul. Awake, harp and lyre! I will awaken the dawn. I will praise you, LORD, among the nations; will sing of you among the peoples. For great is your love, higher than the heavens; your faithfulness reaches to the skies. Be exalted, O God, above the heavens; let your glory be over all the earth. Save us and help us with your right hand, that those you love may be delivered. God has spoken from his sanctuary: “In triumph I will parcel out Shechem and measure off the Valley of Sukkoth. Gilead is mine, Manasseh is mine; Ephraim is my helmet, Judah is my scepter. Moab is my washbasin, on Edom I toss my sandal; over Philistia I shout in triumph.” Who will bring me to the fortified city? Who will lead me to Edom? Is it not you, God, you who have rejected us and no longer go out with our armies? Give us aid against the enemy, for human help is worthless. With God we will gain the victory, and he will trample down our enemies.

    My God, whom I praise, do not remain silent, for people who are wicked and deceitful have opened their mouths against me; they have spoken against me with lying tongues. With words of hatred they surround me; they attack me without cause. In return for my friendship they accuse me, but I am a man of prayer. They repay me evil for good, and hatred for my friendship. Appoint someone evil to oppose my enemy; let an accuser stand at his right hand. When he is tried, let him be found guilty, and may his prayers condemn him. May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership. May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow. May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes. May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor. May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children. May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation. May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD; may the sin of his mother never be blotted out. May their sins always remain before the LORD, that he may blot out their name from the earth. For he never thought of doing a kindness, but hounded to death the poor and the needy and the brokenhearted. He loved to pronounce a curse, may it come back on him. He found no pleasure in blessing, may it be far from him. He wore cursing as his garment; it entered into his body like water, into his bones like oil. May it be like a cloak wrapped about him, like a belt tied forever around him. May this be the LORD’s payment to my accusers, to those who speak evil of me. But you, Sovereign LORD, help me for your name’s sake; out of the goodness of your love, deliver me. For I am poor and needy, and my heart is wounded within me. I fade away like an evening shadow; I am shaken off like a locust. My knees give way from fasting; my body is thin and gaunt. I am an object of scorn to my accusers; when they see me, they shake their heads. Help me, LORD my God; save me according to your unfailing love. Let them know that it is your hand, that you, LORD, have done it. While they curse, may you bless; may those who attack me be put to shame, but may your servant rejoice. May my accusers be clothed with disgrace and wrapped in shame as in a cloak. With my mouth I will greatly extol the LORD; in the great throng of worshipers I will praise him. For he stands at the right hand of the needy, to save their lives from those who would condemn them.

    The LORD says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” The LORD will extend your mighty scepter from Zion, saying, “Rule in the midst of your enemies!” Your troops will be willing on your day of battle. Arrayed in holy splendor, your young men will come to you like dew from the morning’s womb. The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” The Lord is at your right hand; he will crush kings on the day of his wrath. He will judge the nations, heaping up the dead and crushing the rulers of the whole earth. He will drink from a brook along the way,and so he will lift his head high.

    Praise the LORD. I will extol the LORD with all my heart in the council of the upright and in the assembly. Great are the works of the LORD; they are pondered by all who delight in them. Glorious and majestic are his deeds, and his righteousness endures forever. He has caused his wonders to be remembered; the LORD is gracious and compassionate. He provides food for those who fear him; he remembers his covenant forever. He has shown his people the power of his works, giving them the lands of other nations. The works of his hands are faithful and just; all his precepts are trustworthy. They are established for ever and ever, enacted in faithfulness and uprightness. He provided redemption for his people; he ordained his covenant forever. Holy and awesome is his name. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise.

    Praise the LORD. Blessed are those who fear the LORD, who find great delight in his commands. Their children will be mighty in the land; the generation of the upright will be blessed. Wealth and riches are in their houses, and their righteousness endures forever. Even in darkness light dawns for the upright, for those who are gracious and compassionate and righteous. Good will come to those who are generous and lend freely, who conduct their affairs with justice. Surely the righteous will never be shaken; they will be remembered forever. They will have no fear of bad news; their hearts are steadfast, trusting in the LORD. Their hearts are secure, they will have no fear; in the end they will look in triumph on their foes. They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor, their righteousness endures forever; their horn will be lifted high in honor. The wicked will see and be vexed, they will gnash their teeth and waste away; the longings of the wicked will come to nothing.

    Praise the LORD. Praise the LORD, you his servants; praise the name of the LORD. Let the name of the LORD be praised, both now and forevermore. From the rising of the sun to the place where it sets, the name of the LORD is to be praised. The LORD is exalted over all the nations, his glory above the heavens. Who is like the LORD our God, the One who sits enthroned on high, who stoops down to look on the heavens and the earth? He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes, with the princes of his people. He settles the childless woman in her home as a happy mother of children. Praise the LORD.

    When Israel came out of Egypt, Jacob from a people of foreign tongue, Judah became God’s sanctuary, Israel his dominion. The sea looked and fled, the Jordan turned back; the mountains leaped like rams, the hills like lambs. Why was it, sea, that you fled? Why, Jordan, did you turn back? Why, mountains, did you leap like rams, you hills, like lambs? Tremble, earth, at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the God of Jacob, who turned the rock into a pool, the hard rock into springs of water.

    Not to us, LORD, not to us but to your name be the glory, because of your love and faithfulness. Why do the nations say, “Where is their God?” Our God is in heaven; he does whatever pleases him. But their idols are silver and gold, made by human hands. They have mouths, but cannot speak, eyes, but cannot see. They have ears, but cannot hear, noses, but cannot smell. They have hands, but cannot feel, feet, but cannot walk, nor can they utter a sound with their throats. Those who make them will be like them, and so will all who trust in them. All you Israelites, trust in the LORD. He is their help and shield. House of Aaron, trust in the LORD. He is their help and shield. You who fear him, trust in the LORD. He is their help and shield. The LORD remembers us and will bless us: He will bless his people Israel, he will bless the house of Aaron, he will bless those who fear the LORD, small and great alike. May the LORD cause you to flourish, both you and your children. May you be blessed by the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth. The highest heavens belong to the LORD, but the earth he has given to mankind. It is not the dead who praise the LORD, those who go down to the place of silence; it is we who extol the LORD, both now and forevermore. Praise the LORD.

    I love the LORD, for he heard my voice; he heard my cry for mercy. Because he turned his ear to me, I will call on him as long as I live. The cords of death entangled me, the anguish of the grave came over me; I was overcome by distress and sorrow. Then I called on the name of the LORD: “LORD, save me!” The LORD is gracious and righteous; our God is full of compassion. The LORD protects the unwary; when I was brought low, he saved me. Return to your rest, my soul, for the LORD has been good to you. For you, LORD, have delivered me from death, my eyes from tears, my feet from stumbling, that I may walk before the LORD in the land of the living. I trusted in the LORD when I said, “I am greatly afflicted”; in my alarm I said, “Everyone is a liar.” What shall I return to the LORD for all his goodness to me? I will lift up the cup of salvation and call on the name of the LORD. I will fulfill my vows to the LORD in the presence of all his people. Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his faithful servants. Truly I am your servant, LORD; I serve you just as my mother did; you have freed me from my chains. I will sacrifice a thank offering to you and call on the name of the LORD. I will fulfill my vows to the LORD in the presence of all his people, in the courts of the house of the LORD, in your midst, Jerusalem. Praise the LORD.

    Praise the LORD, all you nations; extol him, all you peoples. For great is his love toward us, and the faithfulness of the LORD endures forever. Praise the LORD.

    Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; his love endures forever. Let Israel say: “His love endures forever.” Let the house of Aaron say: “His love endures forever.” Let those who fear the LORD say: “His love endures forever.” When hard pressed, I cried to the LORD; he brought me into a spacious place. The LORD is with me; I will not be afraid. What can mere mortals do to me? The LORD is with me; he is my helper. I look in triumph on my enemies. It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in humans. It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in princes. All the nations surrounded me, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down. They surrounded me on every side, but in the name of the LORD I cut them down. They swarmed around me like bees, but they were consumed as quickly as burning thorns; in the name of the LORD I cut them down. I was pushed back and about to fall, but the LORD helped me. The LORD is my strength and my defense; he has become my salvation. Shouts of joy and victory resound in the tents of the righteous: “The LORD’s right hand has done mighty things! The LORD’s right hand is lifted high; the LORD’s right hand has done mighty things!” I will not die but live, and will proclaim what the LORD has done. The LORD has chastened me severely, but he has not given me over to death. Open for me the gates of the righteous; I will enter and give thanks to the LORD. This is the gate of the LORD through which the righteous may enter. I will give you thanks, for you answered me; you have become my salvation. The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; the LORD has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes. The LORD has done it this very day; let us rejoice today and be glad. LORD, save us! LORD, grant us success! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD. From the house of the LORD we bless you. The LORD is God, and he has made his light shine on us. With boughs in hand, join in the festal procession up to the horns of the altar. You are my God, and I will praise you; you are my God, and I will exalt you. Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; his love endures forever.

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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:30 am

    What is the Definitive Pre-Eden Bible?? Could someone send me a copy?? You know where I live!! You probably know more about me than I'll ever know about myself!! What if I was taken hostage in antiquity?? What if I'll be a scapegoat in modernity?? What was the Universal Pre-Eden Perfect Law of the Lord?? Is this solar system as good as it gets?? Is this solar system as bad as it gets?? How Do We REALLY Know ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT With Any Significant Degree of Certainty?? Thinking One Knows, and Actually Knowing, Are Two VERY Different Things!! How much of the Perfect Law of the Lord is found in Psalm 119?? How Readest Thou??

    Blessed are those whose ways are blameless, who walk according to the law of the LORD. Blessed are those who keep his statutes and seek him with all their heart. They do no wrong but follow his ways. You have laid down precepts that are to be fully obeyed. Oh, that my ways were steadfast in obeying your decrees! Then I would not be put to shame when I consider all your commands. I will praise you with an upright heart as I learn your righteous laws. I will obey your decrees; do not utterly forsake me. How can a young person stay on the path of purity? By living according to your word. I seek you with all my heart; do not let me stray from your commands. I have hidden your word in my heart that I might not sin against you. Praise be to you, LORD; teach me your decrees. With my lips I recount all the laws that come from your mouth. I rejoice in following your statutes as one rejoices in great riches. I meditate on your precepts and consider your ways. I delight in your decrees; I will not neglect your word. Be good to your servant while I live, that I may obey your word. Open my eyes that I may see wonderful things in your law. I am a stranger on earth; do not hide your commands from me. My soul is consumed with longing for your laws at all times. You rebuke the arrogant, who are accursed, those who stray from your commands. Remove from me their scorn and contempt, for I keep your statutes. Though rulers sit together and slander me, your servant will meditate on your decrees. Your statutes are my delight; they are my counselors. I am laid low in the dust; preserve my life according to your word. I gave an account of my ways and you answered me; teach me your decrees. Cause me to understand the way of your precepts, that I may meditate on your wonderful deeds. My soul is weary with sorrow; strengthen me according to your word. Keep me from deceitful ways; be gracious to me and teach me your law. I have chosen the way of faithfulness; I have set my heart on your laws. I hold fast to your statutes, LORD; do not let me be put to shame. I run in the path of your commands, for you have broadened my understanding. Teach me, LORD, the way of your decrees, that I may follow it to the end. Give me understanding, so that I may keep your law and obey it with all my heart. Direct me in the path of your commands, for there I find delight. Turn my heart toward your statutes and not toward selfish gain. Turn my eyes away from worthless things; preserve my life according to your word. Fulfill your promise to your servant, so that you may be feared. Take away the disgrace I dread, for your laws are good. How I long for your precepts! In your righteousness preserve my life. May your unfailing love come to me, LORD, your salvation, according to your promise; then I can answer anyone who taunts me, for I trust in your word. Never take your word of truth from my mouth, for I have put my hope in your laws. I will always obey your law, for ever and ever. I will walk about in freedom, for I have sought out your precepts. I will speak of your statutes before kings and will not be put to shame, for I delight in your commands because I love them. I reach out for your commands, which I love, that I may meditate on your decrees. Remember your word to your servant, for you have given me hope. My comfort in my suffering is this: Your promise preserves my life. The arrogant mock me unmercifully, but I do not turn from your law. I remember, LORD, your ancient laws, and I find comfort in them. Indignation grips me because of the wicked, who have forsaken your law. Your decrees are the theme of my song wherever I lodge. In the night, LORD, I remember your name, that I may keep your law. This has been my practice: I obey your precepts. You are my portion, LORD; I have promised to obey your words. I have sought your face with all my heart; be gracious to me according to your promise. I have considered my ways and have turned my steps to your statutes. I will hasten and not delay to obey your commands. Though the wicked bind me with ropes, I will not forget your law. At midnight I rise to give you thanks for your righteous laws. I am a friend to all who fear you, to all who follow your precepts. The earth is filled with your love, LORD; teach me your decrees. Do good to your servant according to your word, LORD. Teach me knowledge and good judgment, for I trust your commands. Before I was afflicted I went astray, but now I obey your word. You are good, and what you do is good; teach me your decrees. Though the arrogant have smeared me with lies, I keep your precepts with all my heart. Their hearts are callous and unfeeling, but I delight in your law. It was good for me to be afflicted so that I might learn your decrees. The law from your mouth is more precious to me than thousands of pieces of silver and gold. Your hands made me and formed me; give me understanding to learn your commands. May those who fear you rejoice when they see me, for I have put my hope in your word. I know, LORD, that your laws are righteous, and that in faithfulness you have afflicted me. May your unfailing love be my comfort, according to your promise to your servant. Let your compassion come to me that I may live, for your law is my delight. May the arrogant be put to shame for wronging me without cause; but I will meditate on your precepts. May those who fear you turn to me, those who understand your statutes. May I wholeheartedly follow your decrees, that I may not be put to shame. My soul faints with longing for your salvation, but I have put my hope in your word. My eyes fail, looking for your promise; I say, “When will you comfort me?” Though I am like a wineskin in the smoke, I do not forget your decrees. How long must your servant wait? When will you punish my persecutors? The arrogant dig pits to trap me, contrary to your law. All your commands are trustworthy; help me, for I am being persecuted without cause. They almost wiped me from the earth, but I have not forsaken your precepts. In your unfailing love preserve my life, that I may obey the statutes of your mouth. Your word, LORD, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens. Your faithfulness continues through all generations; you established the earth, and it endures. Your laws endure to this day, for all things serve you. If your law had not been my delight, I would have perished in my affliction. I will never forget your precepts, for by them you have preserved my life. Save me, for I am yours; I have sought out your precepts. The wicked are waiting to destroy me, but I will ponder your statutes. To all perfection I see a limit, but your commands are boundless. Oh, how I love your law! I meditate on it all day long. Your commands are always with me and make me wiser than my enemies. I have more insight than all my teachers, for I meditate on your statutes. I have more understanding than the elders, for I obey your precepts. I have kept my feet from every evil path so that I might obey your word. I have not departed from your laws, for you yourself have taught me. How sweet are your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth! I gain understanding from your precepts; therefore I hate every wrong path. Your word is a lamp for my feet, a light on my path. I have taken an oath and confirmed it, that I will follow your righteous laws. I have suffered much; preserve my life, LORD, according to your word. Accept, LORD, the willing praise of my mouth, and teach me your laws. Though I constantly take my life in my hands, I will not forget your law. The wicked have set a snare for me, but I have not strayed from your precepts. Your statutes are my heritage forever; they are the joy of my heart. My heart is set on keeping your decrees to the very end. I hate double-minded people, but I love your law. You are my refuge and my shield; I have put my hope in your word. Away from me, you evildoers, that I may keep the commands of my God! Sustain me, my God, according to your promise, and I will live; do not let my hopes be dashed. Uphold me, and I will be delivered; I will always have regard for your decrees. You reject all who stray from your decrees, for their delusions come to nothing. All the wicked of the earth you discard like dross; therefore I love your statutes. My flesh trembles in fear of you; I stand in awe of your laws. I have done what is righteous and just; do not leave me to my oppressors. Ensure your servant’s well-being; do not let the arrogant oppress me. My eyes fail, looking for your salvation, looking for your righteous promise. Deal with your servant according to your love and teach me your decrees. I am your servant; give me discernment that I may understand your statutes. It is time for you to act, LORD; your law is being broken. Because I love your commands more than gold, more than pure gold, and because I consider all your precepts right, I hate every wrong path. Your statutes are wonderful; therefore I obey them. The unfolding of your words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple. I open my mouth and pant, longing for your commands. Turn to me and have mercy on me, as you always do to those who love your name. Direct my footsteps according to your word; let no sin rule over me. Redeem me from human oppression, that I may obey your precepts. Make your face shine on your servant and teach me your decrees. Streams of tears flow from my eyes, for your law is not obeyed. You are righteous, LORD, and your laws are right. The statutes you have laid down are righteous; they are fully trustworthy. My zeal wears me out, for my enemies ignore your words. Your promises have been thoroughly tested, and your servant loves them. Though I am lowly and despised, I do not forget your precepts. Your righteousness is everlasting and your law is true. Trouble and distress have come upon me, but your commands give me delight. Your statutes are always righteous; give me understanding that I may live. I call with all my heart; answer me, LORD, and I will obey your decrees. I call out to you; save me and I will keep your statutes. I rise before dawn and cry for help; I have put my hope in your word. My eyes stay open through the watches of the night, that I may meditate on your promises. Hear my voice in accordance with your love; preserve my life, LORD, according to your laws. Those who devise wicked schemes are near, but they are far from your law. Yet you are near, LORD, and all your commands are true. Long ago I learned from your statutes that you established them to last forever. Look on my suffering and deliver me, for I have not forgotten your law. Defend my cause and redeem me; preserve my life according to your promise. Salvation is far from the wicked, for they do not seek out your decrees. Your compassion, LORD, is great; preserve my life according to your laws. Many are the foes who persecute me, but I have not turned from your statutes. I look on the faithless with loathing, for they do not obey your word. See how I love your precepts; preserve my life, LORD, in accordance with your love. All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal. Rulers persecute me without cause, but my heart trembles at your word. I rejoice in your promise like one who finds great spoil. I hate and detest falsehood but I love your law. Seven times a day I praise you for your righteous laws. Great peace have those who love your law, and nothing can make them stumble. I wait for your salvation, LORD, and I follow your commands. I obey your statutes, for I love them greatly. I obey your precepts and your statutes, for all my ways are known to you. May my cry come before you, LORD; give me understanding according to your word. May my supplication come before you; deliver me according to your promise. May my lips overflow with praise, for you teach me your decrees. May my tongue sing of your word, for all your commands are righteous. May your hand be ready to help me, for I have chosen your precepts. I long for your salvation, LORD, and your law gives me delight. Let me live that I may praise you, and may your laws sustain me. I have strayed like a lost sheep. Seek your servant, for I have not forgotten your commands.

    I call on the LORD in my distress, and he answers me. Save me, LORD, from lying lips and from deceitful tongues. What will he do to you, and what more besides, you deceitful tongue? He will punish you with a warrior’s sharp arrows, with burning coals of the broom bush. Woe to me that I dwell in Meshek, that I live among the tents of Kedar! Too long have I lived among those who hate peace. I am for peace; but when I speak, they are for war.

    I lift up my eyes to the mountains. Where does my help come from? My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth. He will not let your foot slip. He who watches over you will not slumber; indeed, he who watches over Israel will neither slumber nor sleep. The LORD watches over you. The LORD is your shade at your right hand; the sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. The LORD will keep you from all harm. He will watch over your life; the LORD will watch over your coming and going both now and forevermore.

    I rejoiced with those who said to me, “Let us go to the house of the LORD.” Our feet are standing in your gates, Jerusalem. Jerusalem is built like a city that is closely compacted together. That is where the tribes go up. The tribes of the LORD, to praise the name of the LORD according to the statute given to Israel. There stand the thrones for judgment, the thrones of the house of David. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: “May those who love you be secure. May there be peace within your walls and security within your citadels.” For the sake of my family and friends, I will say, “Peace be within you.” For the sake of the house of the LORD our God, I will seek your prosperity.

    I lift up my eyes to you, to you who sit enthroned in heaven. As the eyes of slaves look to the hand of their master, as the eyes of a female slave look to the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look to the LORD our God, till he shows us his mercy. Have mercy on us, LORD, have mercy on us, for we have endured no end of contempt. We have endured no end of ridicule from the arrogant, of contempt from the proud.

    If the LORD had not been on our side, let Israel say, if the LORD had not been on our side when people attacked us, they would have swallowed us alive when their anger flared against us; the flood would have engulfed us, the torrent would have swept over us, the raging waters would have swept us away. Praise be to the LORD, who has not let us be torn by their teeth. We have escaped like a bird from the fowler’s snare; the snare has been broken, and we have escaped. Our help is in the name of the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth.

    Those who trust in the LORD are like Mount Zion, which cannot be shaken but endures forever. As the mountains surround Jerusalem, so the LORD surrounds his people both now and forevermore. The scepter of the wicked will not remain over the land allotted to the righteous, for then the righteous might use their hands to do evil. LORD, do good to those who are good, to those who are upright in heart. But those who turn to crooked ways the LORD will banish with the evildoers. Peace be on Israel.

    When the LORD restored the fortunes of Zion, we were like those who dreamed. Our mouths were filled with laughter, our tongues with songs of joy. Then it was said among the nations, “The LORD has done great things for them.” The LORD has done great things for us, and we are filled with joy. Restore our fortunes, LORD, like streams in the Negev. Those who sow with tears will reap with songs of joy. Those who go out weeping, carrying seed to sow, will return with songs of joy, carrying sheaves with them.

    Unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain. Unless the LORD watches over the city, the guards stand watch in vain. In vain you rise early and stay up late, toiling for food to eat, for he grants sleep to those he loves. Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him. Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one’s youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court.

    Blessed are all who fear the LORD, who walk in obedience to him. You will eat the fruit of your labor; blessings and prosperity will be yours. Your wife will be like a fruitful vine within your house; your children will be like olive shoots around your table. Yes, this will be the blessing for the man who fears the LORD. May the LORD bless you from Zion; may you see the prosperity of Jerusalem all the days of your life. May you live to see your children’s children. Peace be on Israel.

    “They have greatly oppressed me from my youth,” let Israel say; “they have greatly oppressed me from my youth, but they have not gained the victory over me. Plowmen have plowed my back and made their furrows long. But the LORD is righteous; he has cut me free from the cords of the wicked.” May all who hate Zion be turned back in shame. May they be like grass on the roof, which withers before it can grow; a reaper cannot fill his hands with it, nor one who gathers fill his arms. May those who pass by not say to them, “The blessing of the LORD be on you; we bless you in the name of the LORD.”

    Out of the depths I cry to you, LORD; Lord, hear my voice. Let your ears be attentive to my cry for mercy. If you, LORD, kept a record of sins, Lord, who could stand? But with you there is forgiveness, so that we can, with reverence, serve you. I wait for the LORD, my whole being waits, and in his word I put my hope. I wait for the Lord more than watchmen wait for the morning, more than watchmen wait for the morning. Israel, put your hope in the LORD, for with the LORD is unfailing love and with him is full redemption. He himself will redeem Israel from all their sins.

    My heart is not proud, LORD, my eyes are not haughty; I do not concern myself with great matters or things too wonderful for me. But I have calmed and quieted myself, I am like a weaned child with its mother; like a weaned child I am content. Israel, put your hope in the LORD both now and forevermore.

    LORD, remember David and all his self-denial. He swore an oath to the LORD, he made a vow to the Mighty One of Jacob: “I will not enter my house or go to my bed, I will allow no sleep to my eyes or slumber to my eyelids, till I find a place for the LORD, a dwelling for the Mighty One of Jacob.” We heard it in Ephrathah, we came upon it in the fields of Jaar: “Let us go to his dwelling place, let us worship at his footstool, saying, ‘Arise, LORD, and come to your resting place, you and the ark of your might. May your priests be clothed with your righteousness; may your faithful people sing for joy.’” For the sake of your servant David, do not reject your anointed one. The LORD swore an oath to David, a sure oath he will not revoke: “One of your own descendants I will place on your throne. If your sons keep my covenant and the statutes I teach them, then their sons will sit on your throne for ever and ever.” For the LORD has chosen Zion, he has desired it for his dwelling, saying, “This is my resting place for ever and ever; here I will sit enthroned, for I have desired it. I will bless her with abundant provisions; her poor I will satisfy with food. I will clothe her priests with salvation, and her faithful people will ever sing for joy. "Here I will make a horn grow for David and set up a lamp for my anointed one. I will clothe his enemies with shame, but his head will be adorned with a radiant crown.”

    How good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in unity! It is like precious oil poured on the head, running down on the beard, running down on Aaron’s beard, down on the collar of his robe. It is as if the dew of Hermon were falling on Mount Zion. For there the LORD bestows his blessing, even life forevermore.

    Praise the LORD, all you servants of the LORD who minister by night in the house of the LORD. Lift up your hands in the sanctuary and praise the LORD. May the LORD bless you from Zion, he who is the Maker of heaven and earth.

    Praise the LORD. Praise the name of the LORD; praise him, you servants of the LORD, you who minister in the house of the LORD, in the courts of the house of our God. Praise the LORD, for the LORD is good; sing praise to his name, for that is pleasant. For the LORD has chosen Jacob to be his own, Israel to be his treasured possession. I know that the LORD is great, that our Lord is greater than all gods. The LORD does whatever pleases him, in the heavens and on the earth, in the seas and all their depths. He makes clouds rise from the ends of the earth; he sends lightning with the rain and brings out the wind from his storehouses. He struck down the firstborn of Egypt, the firstborn of people and animals. He sent his signs and wonders into your midst, Egypt, against Pharaoh and all his servants. He struck down many nations and killed mighty kings. Sihon king of the Amorites, Og king of Bashan, and all the kings of Canaan, and he gave their land as an inheritance, an inheritance to his people Israel. Your name, LORD, endures forever, your renown, LORD, through all generations. For the LORD will vindicate his people and have compassion on his servants. The idols of the nations are silver and gold, made by human hands. They have mouths, but cannot speak, eyes, but cannot see. They have ears, but cannot hear, nor is there breath in their mouths. Those who make them will be like them, and so will all who trust in them. All you Israelites, praise the LORD; house of Aaron, praise the LORD; house of Levi, praise the LORD; you who fear him, praise the LORD. Praise be to the LORD from Zion, to him who dwells in Jerusalem. Praise the LORD.

    Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good. His love endures forever. Give thanks to the God of gods. His love endures forever. Give thanks to the Lord of lords: His love endures forever. To him who alone does great wonders, His love endures forever. Who by his understanding made the heavens, His love endures forever. Who spread out the earth upon the waters, His love endures forever. Who made the great lights, His love endures forever. The sun to govern the day, His love endures forever. The moon and stars to govern the night; His love endures forever. To him who struck down the firstborn of Egypt His love endures forever. And brought Israel out from among them His love endures forever. With a mighty hand and outstretched arm; His love endures forever. To him who divided the Red Sea asunder, His love endures forever. And brought Israel through the midst of it, His love endures forever. But swept Pharaoh and his army into the Red Sea; His love endures forever. To him who led his people through the wilderness; His love endures forever. To him who struck down great kings, His love endures forever. And killed mighty kings, His love endures forever. Sihon king of the Amorites His love endures forever. And Og king of Bashan, His love endures forever. And gave their land as an inheritance, His love endures forever. An inheritance to his servant Israel, His love endures forever. He remembered us in our low estate His love endures forever. And freed us from our enemies. His love endures forever. He gives food to every creature. His love endures forever. Give thanks to the God of heaven. His love endures forever.

    By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept when we remembered Zion. There on the poplars we hung our harps, for there our captors asked us for songs, our tormentors demanded songs of joy; they said, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion!” How can we sing the songs of the LORD while in a foreign land? If I forget you, Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill. May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth if I do not remember you, if I do not consider Jerusalem my highest joy. Remember, LORD, what the Edomites did on the day Jerusalem fell. “Tear it down,” they cried, “tear it down to its foundations!” Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is the one who repays you according to what you have done to us. Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

    I will praise you, LORD, with all my heart; before the “gods” I will sing your praise. I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your unfailing love and your faithfulness, for you have so exalted your solemn decree that it surpasses your fame. When I called, you answered me; you greatly emboldened me. May all the kings of the earth praise you, LORD, when they hear what you have decreed. May they sing of the ways of the LORD, for the glory of the LORD is great. Though the LORD is exalted, he looks kindly on the lowly; though lofty, he sees them from afar. Though I walk in the midst of trouble, you preserve my life. You stretch out your hand against the anger of my foes; with your right hand you save me. The LORD will vindicate me; your love, LORD, endures forever. Do not abandon the works of your hands.

    You have searched me, LORD, and you know me. You know when I sit and when I rise; you perceive my thoughts from afar. You discern my going out and my lying down; you are familiar with all my ways. Before a word is on my tongue you, LORD, know it completely. You hem me in behind and before, and you lay your hand upon me. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me, too lofty for me to attain. Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast. If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me and the light become night around me,” even the darkness will not be dark to you; the night will shine like the day, for darkness is as light to you. For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. How precious to me are your thoughts, God! How vast is the sum of them! Were I to count them, they would outnumber the grains of sand. When I awake, I am still with you. If only you, God, would slay the wicked! Away from me, you who are bloodthirsty! They speak of you with evil intent; your adversaries misuse your name. Do I not hate those who hate you, LORD, and abhor those who are in rebellion against you? I have nothing but hatred for them; I count them my enemies. Search me, God, and know my heart; test me and know my anxious thoughts. See if there is any offensive way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

    Rescue me, LORD, from evildoers; protect me from the violent, who devise evil plans in their hearts and stir up war every day. They make their tongues as sharp as a serpent’s; the poison of vipers is on their lips. Keep me safe, LORD, from the hands of the wicked; protect me from the violent, who devise ways to trip my feet. The arrogant have hidden a snare for me; they have spread out the cords of their net and have set traps for me along my path. I say to the LORD, “You are my God.” Hear, LORD, my cry for mercy. Sovereign LORD, my strong deliverer, you shield my head in the day of battle. Do not grant the wicked their desires, LORD; do not let their plans succeed. Those who surround me proudly rear their heads; may the mischief of their lips engulf them. May burning coals fall on them; may they be thrown into the fire, into miry pits, never to rise. May slanderers not be established in the land; may disaster hunt down the violent. I know that the LORD secures justice for the poor and upholds the cause of the needy. Surely the righteous will praise your name, and the upright will live in your presence.

    I call to you, LORD, come quickly to me; hear me when I call to you. May my prayer be set before you like incense; may the lifting up of my hands be like the evening sacrifice. Set a guard over my mouth, LORD; keep watch over the door of my lips. Do not let my heart be drawn to what is evil so that I take part in wicked deeds along with those who are evildoers; do not let me eat their delicacies. Let a righteous man strike me. That is a kindness; let him rebuke me. That is oil on my head. My head will not refuse it, for my prayer will still be against the deeds of evildoers. Their rulers will be thrown down from the cliffs, and the wicked will learn that my words were well spoken. They will say, “As one plows and breaks up the earth, so our bones have been scattered at the mouth of the grave.” But my eyes are fixed on you, Sovereign LORD; in you I take refuge. Do not give me over to death. Keep me safe from the traps set by evildoers, from the snares they have laid for me. Let the wicked fall into their own nets, while I pass by in safety.

    I cry aloud to the LORD; I lift up my voice to the LORD for mercy. I pour out before him my complaint; before him I tell my trouble. When my spirit grows faint within me, it is you who watch over my way. In the path where I walk people have hidden a snare for me. Look and see, there is no one at my right hand; no one is concerned for me. I have no refuge; no one cares for my life. I cry to you, LORD; I say, “You are my refuge, my portion in the land of the living.” Listen to my cry, for I am in desperate need; rescue me from those who pursue me, for they are too strong for me. Set me free from my prison, that I may praise your name. Then the righteous will gather about me because of your goodness to me.

    LORD, hear my prayer, listen to my cry for mercy; in your faithfulness and righteousness come to my relief. Do not bring your servant into judgment, for no one living is righteous before you. The enemy pursues me, he crushes me to the ground; he makes me dwell in the darkness like those long dead. So my spirit grows faint within me; my heart within me is dismayed. I remember the days of long ago; I meditate on all your works and consider what your hands have done. I spread out my hands to you; I thirst for you like a parched land. Answer me quickly, LORD; my spirit fails. Do not hide your face from me or I will be like those who go down to the pit. Let the morning bring me word of your unfailing love, for I have put my trust in you. Show me the way I should go, for to you I entrust my life. Rescue me from my enemies, LORD, for I hide myself in you. Teach me to do your will, for you are my God; may your good Spirit lead me on level ground. For your name’s sake, LORD, preserve my life; in your righteousness, bring me out of trouble. In your unfailing love, silence my enemies; destroy all my foes, for I am your servant.

    Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. He is my loving God and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer, my shield, in whom I take refuge, who subdues peoples under me. LORD, what are human beings that you care for them, mere mortals that you think of them? They are like a breath; their days are like a fleeting shadow. Part your heavens, LORD, and come down; touch the mountains, so that they smoke. Send forth lightning and scatter the enemy; shoot your arrows and rout them. Reach down your hand from on high; deliver me and rescue me from the mighty waters, from the hands of foreigners whose mouths are full of lies, whose right hands are deceitful. I will sing a new song to you, my God; on the ten-stringed lyre I will make music to you, to the One who gives victory to kings, who delivers his servant David. From the deadly sword deliver me; rescue me from the hands of foreigners whose mouths are full of lies, whose right hands are deceitful. Then our sons in their youth will be like well-nurtured plants, and our daughters will be like pillars carved to adorn a palace. Our barns will be filled with every kind of provision. Our sheep will increase by thousands, by tens of thousands in our fields; our oxen will draw heavy loads.There will be no breaching of walls, no going into captivity, no cry of distress in our streets. Blessed is the people of whom this is true; blessed is the people whose God is the LORD.

    I will exalt you, my God the King; I will praise your name for ever and ever. Every day I will praise you and extol your name for ever and ever. Great is the LORD and most worthy of praise; his greatness no one can fathom. One generation commends your works to another; they tell of your mighty acts. They speak of the glorious splendor of your majesty, and I will meditate on your wonderful works. They tell of the power of your awesome works, and I will proclaim your great deeds. They celebrate your abundant goodness and joyfully sing of your righteousness. The LORD is gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and rich in love. The LORD is good to all; he has compassion on all he has made. All your works praise you, LORD; your faithful people extol you. They tell of the glory of your kingdom and speak of your might, so that all people may know of your mighty acts and the glorious splendor of your kingdom. Your kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and your dominion endures through all generations. The LORD is trustworthy in all he promises and faithful in all he does. The LORD upholds all who fall and lifts up all who are bowed down. The eyes of all look to you, and you give them their food at the proper time. You open your hand and satisfy the desires of every living thing. The LORD is righteous in all his ways and faithful in all he does. The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their cry and saves them. The LORD watches over all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy. My mouth will speak in praise of the LORD. Let every creature praise his holy name for ever and ever.

    Praise the LORD. Praise the LORD, my soul. I will praise the LORD all my life; I will sing praise to my God as long as I live. Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save. When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing. Blessed are those whose help is the God of Jacob, whose hope is in the LORD their God. He is the Maker of heaven and earth, the sea, and everything in them, he remains faithful forever. He upholds the cause of the oppressed and gives food to the hungry. The LORD sets prisoners free, the LORD gives sight to the blind, the LORD lifts up those who are bowed down, the LORD loves the righteous. The LORD watches over the foreigner and sustains the fatherless and the widow, but he frustrates the ways of the wicked. The LORD reigns forever, your God, O Zion, for all generations. Praise the LORD.

    Praise the LORD. How good it is to sing praises to our God, how pleasant and fitting to praise him! The LORD builds up Jerusalem; he gathers the exiles of Israel. He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds. He determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name. Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit. The LORD sustains the humble but casts the wicked to the ground. Sing to the LORD with grateful praise; make music to our God on the harp. He covers the sky with clouds; he supplies the earth with rain and makes grass grow on the hills. He provides food for the cattle and for the young ravens when they call. His pleasure is not in the strength of the horse, nor his delight in the legs of the warrior; the LORD delights in those who fear him, who put their hope in his unfailing love. Extol the LORD, Jerusalem; praise your God, Zion. He strengthens the bars of your gates and blesses your people within you. He grants peace to your borders and satisfies you with the finest of wheat. He sends his command to the earth; his word runs swiftly. He spreads the snow like wool and scatters the frost like ashes. He hurls down his hail like pebbles. Who can withstand his icy blast? He sends his word and melts them; he stirs up his breezes, and the waters flow. He has revealed his word to Jacob, his laws and decrees to Israel. He has done this for no other nation; they do not know his laws. Praise the LORD.

    Praise the LORD. Praise the LORD from the heavens; praise him in the heights above. Praise him, all his angels; praise him, all his heavenly hosts. Praise him, sun and moon; praise him, all you shining stars. Praise him, you highest heavens and you waters above the skies. Let them praise the name of the LORD, for at his command they were created, and he established them for ever and ever, he issued a decree that will never pass away. Praise the LORD from the earth, you great sea creatures and all ocean depths, lightning and hail, snow and clouds, stormy winds that do his bidding, you mountains and all hills, fruit trees and all cedars, wild animals and all cattle, small creatures and flying birds, kings of the earth and all nations, you princes and all rulers on earth, young men and women, old men and children. Let them praise the name of the LORD, for his name alone is exalted; his splendor is above the earth and the heavens. And he has raised up for his people a horn,the praise of all his faithful servants, of Israel, the people close to his heart. Praise the LORD.

    Praise the LORD.Sing to the LORD a new song, his praise in the assembly of his faithful people. Let Israel rejoice in their Maker; let the people of Zion be glad in their King. Let them praise his name with dancing and make music to him with timbrel and harp. For the LORD takes delight in his people; he crowns the humble with victory. Let his faithful people rejoice in this honor and sing for joy on their beds. May the praise of God be in their mouths and a double-edged sword in their hands, to inflict vengeance on the nations and punishment on the peoples, to bind their kings with fetters, their nobles with shackles of iron, to carry out the sentence written against them. This is the glory of all his faithful people. Praise the LORD.

    Praise the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens. Praise him for his acts of power; praise him for his surpassing greatness. Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet, praise him with the harp and lyre, praise him with timbrel and dancing, praise him with the strings and pipe, praise him with the clash of cymbals, praise him with resounding cymbals. Let everything that has breath praise the LORD. Praise the LORD.
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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:19 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:I continue to wish and pray for the best for Brook. Here is a generic comment for all-concerned. Consider the concept of having a General-Practice Medical-Doctor AND Natural-Preventive Naturopathic-Doctor who communicate with each-other on a regular-basis to help provide the best possible preventive-lifestyle, early-detection, and as natural and non-invasive treatment as possible. Then, consider combining this foundation with a fitness-gym membership and personal-research. Finally, consider regularly shopping at a health-food store or grocery-store which specializes in naturals and organic-foods. This would be an ongoing sort of thing, and not just when a crisis arose. This would be as much about quality of life, as it would be about prevention and treatment. I'm presently leaning toward a low-tech life in natural-surroundings, in combination with all of the above. Once again, I wish to thank Brook and Lionhawk for the FANTASTIC Threads and Posts on Project Avalon and The Mists of Avalon. I have yet to properly research their material on these two websites. I LOVED that Brook Interview. It answered a lot of questions I've had for years. Thank-You!!

    Mercuriel wrote:
    My Dear Friend Brook...

    Speechless...

    Simply speechless...

    MUCH Love to You in this

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Good to see you posting, Mercuriel. I've missed your presence on this site, but I knew you were lurking in the shadows (like I'm trying to do presently). Thank-you for your patience with me throughout the years. I hope that someday all of us can know all about what was really going-on with Project Avalon and The Mists of Avalon (not to mention the real History of Earth, Humanity, and This Solar System). Meanwhile, here is another interview involving Brook. I could listen to this sort of thing each and every day.




    This might be in poor-taste, but I contributed $100 to Brook. Having said that, I still feel guilty and bewildered by my lack of support, and by the seemingly lacking support of others. What the hell is going on?? Only $1,100 has been donated to Brook (by 6 donors). One individual donated $500. https://www.youcaring.com/brookschiner-1130470 I'm also feeling guilty and bewildered concerning the alleged death of Sherry Shriner in early January of 2018. I have NO Idea if she's really dead or not. If she's dead, how the hell did she die?? Where is the extensive discussion of her show and death?? I enjoyed listening to those Brook interviews on the Cosmic Emporium. The voice and manner were pretty-much what I expected. I remembered hearing a similar voice of a caller (from Indio) to the Art Bell Show (during the Blanche Barton interview). I noticed a similar voice in the documentary 'When God Left the Building'. Notice the person being interviewed at the 42 second mark in the following trailer. I continue to wonder if all of this is a puzzle to be solved?? I could be a lot more specific, but I always beat around the burning bush, rather than just blurting things out. BTW, do we have a progress-report of Brook's condition and situation??


    Only $1,100 has been raised for Brook, with the last donation nearly one month ago. I thought Brook was popular and well thought of in several forums and in real life. What's going on here?? There was virtually no interest in my plight when I had my heart-surgery over a year ago. Just a couple of family members, a couple of forum members, and my dentist. But given my lack of tact and charm, I shouldn't have been surprised!! But Brook is different, or so I thought. I still don't know if Sherry Shriner REALLY died, or who she REALLY was or is.  I wasn't on-board with Brook and Sherry (and they were VERY different from each-other) but they seemed to reveal a lot of forbidden-stuff (for better or worse, I know not). I've recently thought that participating in a university might trump participating in a church, at this late-date in the societal-evolution of Earth and Humanity. Anyway, I have a need to know regarding Brook Schiner and Sherry Shriner. They were a part of my strange research-project. I wouldn't do it again, but what's done is done, and it's time to move on.
    mudra wrote:Thank you for sharing your concerns Oxy. Maybe people contributed from elsewhere or otherwise Oxy. Not everyone owns a visa or mastercard as required on that site. Not all good flows come in the form of money. Only Brook would be able to tell of the help and signs of encouragement she got and in what form. Some may also come through perfect silence and yet impeccable presence. Lets not fall into the trap of looking at one vista and come to the conclusion that we have the full view. I am unable to give you any fresh news about Brook. The last that I know from what she posted on fb is that she was undergoing a heavy emotional turmoil and that her heart was broken. This was so personal I chose not to copy paste it here. And I think this was pertinent of me as she soon after deleted all the posts relating to that matter. Since than she doesn't post anymore on fb.

    I hold Brook in my heart.

    Love from me
    mudra
    Brook wrote:Good morning!

    First off...I want to thank you ODM for your generous contribution.  All of that money went toward staving off the bill collectors.  My heating and air conditioner unit went out and that is uppermost in my needs at the moment.  Replacement (which is what I need) is far and away out of my reach...$4500.00.  Chemo without air conditioning is miserable.  I did get a loan of a window unit for the time being but this needs to be fixed and I really have no idea how to raise the money to do it.  When winter comes if I live that long will be another story...so it needs attention. I've never had to ask for charity and it's one of the hardest thing I've ever had to do.  I also realize as I said most of the people who know me are as broke as I am so that is a primary reason why I'm sure no one has done more and I understand that totally.  But I thank you ODM for the supportive words.   I also want to thank those who maybe did not give me a cash support but sent me things such as bedding for my son and his wife (thank you Carol) and the CBD oil which I'm getting ready to start here soon.  The fact is most people that know me are as broke as I am presently.  We sort of gather in groups eh?

    I apologize for the long pause. Oh I wish I could get a spa treatment! Can I dream? I'd give anything to be sitting in a botanical hot pool with the scents and sounds of nature all around.

    I've been truthfully having a hard time the last month. ups and downs. An example is I could not do my chemo last week because my blood platelets were too low and I don't want to bleed to death from the chemo treatments. If they are not up by this Monday I will probably have to have a blood transfusion to add some platelets to my blood. I'm guessing it's being caused from the blood thinners for my heart. I'll find out more this coming week when I get a chance to speak with the doctor.

    A week from Monday I get another CAT scan and see how the tumors are progressing. I have stopped losing weight which is a good thing. I've been working on eating high calorie and protein foods and even some ice cream which makes me happy.

    I think the hardest thing to get over is the fact that I'm just too tired most of the time to do much. For me this is hard as I'm usually very active and the inability to do the things I'd like to do slows me down which I'm just not used to. Every day seems to be about my next dose of medicine.

    This is a small glimpse of a somewhat successful stage 4 cancer patient working to fight everyday for my life. After I got my computer up and running great a month ago..I stepped away from it and didn't even open my laptop for almost a month. But here I am back and hoping I didn't worry you all too much.

    This is obviously a personal decision to go the route of chemo and if anybody else here gets this awful disease they can see what one person is going through to fight it going that route of chemo. I must admit I was sent some CBD oil which I am going to probably add to my list of treatments. So many people have recommended it that I simply have to see if it makes a difference. We'll see. I have learned that the chemo with this kind of cancer (small cell lung cancer) will eventually stop working which I've been warned about. Then it seems I qualify for trials. Unfortunately there does not seem to be much information out there on trials for small cell cancer that I can look into and the choice of trials will most likely be up to my doctor.

    So far besides the blood platelets problem I'm doing well with the chemo which is a positive...but eventually it will cease to work. Until then I just have to keep searching for what will be next in the fight for my life. The hardest thing to deal with is the occasional depression which pops up every now and then knowing what is ahead at some point in time. That is a total mind bending experience which I would not wish on anybody but this is what every cancer patient with a diagnosis must at some time face.  There was a problem which cropped up that Mudra is speaking about where I thought Lionhawk was leaving me.  He is not going anywhere.  You have to understand that the people that love you are as effected as you are in many ways.  But I can rest assured he is not going anywhere.  There was a huge misunderstanding which got way out of control and he just didn't know what else to do but figured  if he left it would be better for my health.  He was wrong.  I need him now more than ever.

    My last official day of employment is the 6th of this month then I'm officially unemployed which is a strange experience for me as I've worked all my life it seems at some job and this is the longest time I've ever not worked at some job in my life. My temporary disability officially ends then and I guess you could say I'm a free woman! Whoa...another thing to process. Part of me screams with glee then another part is lost as to what to do now. The truth is the only thing I have to do now is heal and this is the hardest thing to accept as this is by far not the easiest thing to do. In fact this is the hardest thing I've ever had to do.

    I did start a herb garden on my back porch with some help and it's doing great. It also has some cherry tomatoes and kale which is considered a super food and very good for you. Also a variety of peppers from hot to sweet.

    Have a great day! And thank you all for the warm wishes and thoughts.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:It's good to see you posting, Brook. I wish the circumstances were better. I wonder if some of us have been made sick (physically, mentally, and spiritually) because of what we've posted, written, and said?? I might be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get us. I suspect that a lot of the breakthrough revelatory work is being done by the poor, sick, and elderly, with very little credit and compensation provided for them. They often have more reflective time and motivation than the upwardly-mobile and worldly-successful. It might be a bit late for a lot of us, but perhaps simply studying the world to identify business and financial opportunities might be a more profitable and incognito method of truth-seeking, which does not result in overexposure to nefarious forces and agencies. Then, one might have abundant-resources when sickness and adversity strikes. On the other hand, I watched a retired Boeing executive die of liver-cancer very-quickly (many years ago). I passively know a wealthy individual whose wife recently died, and who is now dying of cancer. So, I suppose wealth is not the answer either. I'm lost regarding what to do about suffering and disease in a world where the bottom-line is the bottom-line, and ignorance is bliss and a virtue. https://www.youcaring.com/brookschiner-1130470
    Brook wrote:Good Morning!  Brook

    First off I'd like to thank who ever made a donation to the you caring site set up for me.  I received an anonymous notice this morning in my email. It had to be from this site as I pretty much gave up on the site as a lost cause.  I'm not very good at fund raisers for myself as I said (call it some kind of misplaced pride) asking for help by way of charity.  I suppose I should swallow my pride eh? Well I  promised some pics of my herb garden which is actually more than just herbs so here goes...Here is a bit of a list of the garden contents:  Cilantro, cherry tomatoes, spearmint, a wide variety of peppers (hot and sweet), thyme, oregano, basil, and kale. I also decided to feed the bees with a variety of flowers.


    Cilantro and cherry tomatoes:


    Some pepper plants, basil,oregano, and thyme.


    somewhat growing larger than expected the spearmint:


    I think there is a limit to images so I'll add the rest in another post...
    Brook wrote:
    Thyme and cherry tomatoes with some flowering plants around to feed the bees



    Several varieties of basil



    Kale



    Some flower arrangements I made



    these are a variety of flowers which have not bloomed yet



    Nature is the Best-Medicine (along with laughter) in so many ways. Wisdom seems to have a high-price. Adversity seems to provide Clarity. Perhaps Pain is the Cost of Doing Business in the Universe. Perhaps there's no other way. Who Knows?? Perhaps I should write my memoirs. Unfortunately, I'm nothing to write home about. 'RA' said "I Am RA" and "I'm Rich". Rich told me I should write my memoirs. Rich reminded me of Baron Stockmar. His son, Ernst, wrote his father's memoirs, 'The Memoirs of Baron Stockmar'. Richard Hillary wrote his memoirs, 'The Last Enemy'. I understand that wasn't the original title, so who supplied that title?? Was Richard framed?? Blue Roller claimed that Richard Hillary was Enki, but I certainly don't know if that was the case or not. I continue to be stunned by 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 (where the 'Last Enemy' is mentioned). I'm reading both of those memoirs. Try studying Job to Daniel side-by-side with Romans to James (straight-through, repeatedly, without using a commentary or other parts of the Bible) just to see where this mental and spiritual exercise leads. I might attempt to write about this study. I suppose I could write 'The Diary of a Completely Ignorant Fool'. I could self-publish, buy 1,000 copies, and give them away. The tour would be over before it started. It might be easier that way.

    I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with the internet in general, and forums in particular. The technology has taken over, or We The Peons are finally discovering that technology has taken over. We seem to be losing our minds and souls at a frightening pace. I see people who seem to have sold their souls to the system (and to whoever runs the system) and they're almost paramilitary and robotic. It's sort of creepy. I'm serious about withdrawing from the Info-War. It seems as if one only exposes themselves to Agencies International and Religious Bigots Incorporated (or something like that). Hard-Work and Free-Wisdom never seem to be rewarded. Just the Opposite. Didn't Jesus say something about "Casting Pearls Before the Swine"?? I don't know if the Historical-Jesus of 2,000 years-ago actually existed or not, but the Red-Letter Teachings of Jesus are quite-profound (in general). Anyway, I might just watch documentaries on the internet, without participating. I wish to repeat that I am in no condition or position to be an authority on ANYTHING, and this will undoubtedly be the case for the rest of my pathetic life. I am horribly miserable and hamstrung, seemingly afflicted by nefarious-forces of an undisclosed-nature. I can't win, and I'm not sure that would be a good-thing anyway.

    The Secret of Success for the Inner-Winner is in the Psychology and Ethics of Competition and Cooperation in Business and Education: Understanding and Appreciating Everyone and Everything, Competing Without Ceasing With Positive Response Ability With a Game-Show, Talk-Show, Lawyer-Like Approach to Life, the Universe, and Everything. What if Earth is Heaven, Purgatory, Hell, All of the Above, Some of the Above, or None of the Above?? What if Supercomputer-Controlled Artificial-Intelligence Bio-Robots (in the form of Reptilians, Greys, and Humans) Have Run This Solar-System Freak-Show for Thousands of Years?? But What If the Souls in this Solar System Deserved and/or Demanded This Situation?? What If We Received Freedom From God For All-Eternity In the Moment We Rebelled in Antiquity, and Waged War Against God?? What If the 'History of Humanity' Has Been 'Just Us'?? I've included a lot of stuff I don't necessarily believe-in or even fully-understand. My Threads Are a Study-Guide. That's All. Consider taking another look at the 1928 'Book of Common Prayer'. What Would the Queen of Sheba Say?? What Would Queen Esther Say?? What Would Queen Victoria Say?? What Would Queen Elizabeth Say?? What Would the Queen of Heaven Say??

    mudra wrote:
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Nature is the Best-Medicine (along with laughter) in so many ways.

    Yes  cheers

    Wisdom seems to have a high-price.

    Wisdom is priceless imho Oxy

    Adversity seems to provide Clarity.

    From tiny seed to mighty tree imagine the amount of efforts and counter efforts that takes.
    This subtle interplay is what brings things into being for one to see.

    Perhaps Pain is the Cost of Doing Business in the Universe. Perhaps there's no other way.

    Well seen Oxy.
    To me pain is the cost of " Doing things for something  " rather than the joy of " Being with ".
    Perhaps the latter is The way.  


    Who Knows??


    ONE  knows.


    Love from me
    mudra
    mudra wrote:June 11
    Brook posted the following re her health on her facebook page:

    "Well, not good...in my liver there are too many nodules of cancer to count and more in my lungs and now in my mammary gland as well. Lymph nodes are spreading too. It's also in my bones but not spreading as much. So they are putting me on some heavy duty chemo that is three days in a row and this time I'm losing my hair. This sucks! Sorry I could not deliver better news.

    And later that day:

    Thank you everyone for the kind words of support. I won't lie, I'm a bit scared. I've been doing some reading on metastatic liver cancer and the prognosis is not good. Apparently there is no cure for it. Controlling it before there is too much damage is all they can do.

    I'm also a bit frightened about this new chemo. A social worker called me yesterday to come in early today before I start to discuss the changes and what to expect. I fear this is going to be very hard and challenging for me. I was taking the other chemo quite well...but this is going to be decidedly different. I was warned that eventually the chemo would stop working and the cancer would prevail. This is the pitfalls of small cell lung cancer that I've been warned about and while I suppose I was in a bit of denial the time has come to face this disease as it stands.

    My daughter in law is coming over this morning with the baby and we are going to get some coffee and hang out for a bit before I have to face this head on.

    It's not dying that I'm afraid of btw...it's facing this horrible disease and going through it that I'm worried about. Shoot if I die I know there are two people waiting to welcome me and take me home. I must also say that is a welcoming thought that keeps me hopeful as I miss them very much and the day we reunite is going to be wonderful. I will also be free of this horrible disease and pain free which will be a tremendous relief. I don't talk much about the pain but it exists which I've been medicating with opiates for and will apparently continue to do until it's time to go. I know some people feel opiates are bad....but in my case it's a great relief and much needed.

    I know everyone thinks there is a way to beat this and I will give it my best shot but facing reality has to come into play and until this disease has found a cure and they figure out some way to regenerate the liver I'm stuck with facing that reality.

    Please don't feel sorry for me as I'm one of many who face these challenges everyday. Some much younger than me and it breaks my heart every time I see it at the infusion center where I get my chemo. I also feel that in the near future I will not be up to writing much as this new level of treatment is going to prevent that. This is why I'm sharing this now. I want to convey that it's with great gratitude that I've been blessed with your friendships.

    It is I in essence who would like to send blessings to you for every day is a blessing and every moment there are things to be grateful for. I am grateful for being blessed with your friendships and send you blessing in that space of gratitude. May you find kindness in all that you meet.


    You signs of Love, kindness and compassion for her are most welcome here my dear friends from the Mists.

    Love from me
    mudra
    orthodoxymoron wrote:This is sad and sobering news. I don't know what to say. I never seem to say the right thing. I recently wrote a short-note to a young-person with terminal-cancer, and I think I might've said the wrong thing. I wasn't upbeat enough. I'll make this brief, but at what point does one simply be honest, rather than saying the right-thing?? In so much of life it seems as if lying is the right-thing, but we never call it 'lying'. We call it 'being tactful' or 'being inspirational' or 'inspiring faith, hope, and love'. Is it the wrong-thing to say that most cancer can be prevented, and that most cancer can be successfully-treated with forbidden natural-remedies which mainstream-medicine and the mainstream-media won't touch with ten-foot poles, mostly because that would be 'bad for business'?? No Margin?? No Mission?? Sick World?? There's a Cancer Growing on Humanity Which Might Be Terminal. Oops, I Did It Again. I Said the Wrong-Thing. Much Love to Brook. I'm Praying for a Miracle-Cure or Just an Old-Fashioned Miracle. Namaste and Godspeed.
    mudra wrote:Dearest Oxy you always come here with your heart. How could this be wrong then ? It's neither right either. It's out of that duality game and I feel you are just being authentic which is the best way to go about anything that comes to our consciousness. I am sure Brook appreciates the many signs of kindness you have consistently shown her since the onset of this thread.
    Hugs
    Much Love for You
    The Karen
    mudra
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you mudra. In general-terms, perhaps one should say the right-things and wrong-things internally, in sort of a Great-Controversy Between Christ and Satan in the Conflict of the Ages, and then say and do the right-things, as a resolution of this internal-battle. In one of those 'Cosmic Emporium' videos, featuring Brook, she briefly mentions the 'internal-battle' as being key. When I asked abraxasinas about that 'Great Controversy' the reply was that it was an internal-battle within ONE Being. Dr. Robert H. Schuller started-out with 'Possibility-Thinking' which involves both positive and negative possibilities. But this morphed into 'Positive-Thinking' and 'Self-Esteem' probably because that's what the general-public wanted, and because that's what paid the bills. Anyway, life is a mixed-bag of pain, pleasure, triumph, defeat, hope, despair, sanity, insanity, life, and death. Perhaps it MUST be this way, for reasons I'm just beginning to come to terms with.
    Here is an add-on to the above-quoted conversation, which wouldn't have been appropriate in the original-context. As you painfully-know, I have a 'love-hate' relationship with the Bible, Judeo-Christianity, and Ellen White. Perhaps all-three consist of a 'good-evil' duality as a 'Great-Controversy'. Consider the first-three Conflict of the Ages Series books by Ellen White, 'Patriarchs and Prophets', 'Prophets and Kings', and 'Desire of Ages' as being ONE-VOLUME and a Non-Canonical Alternative-Bible for Devotional and Practical Purposes. Highlight the 'Nice and Ethical' portions with one color, and the 'Nasty and Unethical' portions with another color. Then imagine a Great-Controversy Between Qetesh and Vala Mal Doran in a Gothic Throne-Room, utilizing this Technicolor Bible-Story as a script for Mean-Queen v Reformed-Queen!! Do you see what I mean?? The Jesuits know what I'm talking about, but they don't talk about it. That's why I jokingly imagine myself being a 'Renegade French-Jesuit Organist'!! It Takes All Kinds, But Why??




    Does the Bible Say Anything About a Pre-Adamic Race?
    https://www.gotquestions.org/pre-Adamic-race.html

    Question: "Does the Bible say anything about a pre-Adamic race?"

    Answer: The concept of a pre-Adamic race is the idea that God created a race of humans who lived on the Earth before He created Adam, the first man. This hypothesis has been promoted by various scholars at various times throughout history. Roman Emperor Julian the Apostate (circa A.D. 331–363) and Calvinist theologian Isaac de La Peyrère (1596-1676) are two notable examples.

    We will look at two popular facets of the Preadamite Hypothesis: the hypothesis as it was proposed by Isaac de La Peyrère and the form which it takes in the “Gap Theory” (also known as the Ruin-Reconstruction interpretation). According to La Peyrère, God created the Gentiles on the sixth day when He said, “Let us make man in our image” (Genesis 1:26). He did not create the Jews until after the seventh day, His day of rest. At some point after the seventh day, God created Adam, the father of the Jews.

    La Peyrère cited Scripture to support his hypothesis. Cain’s fear of being lynched, his marriage to an unknown woman and the fact that he founded a city (Genesis 4:14-17) are all interpreted as evidence that another race of men coexisted with Adam and his family.

    La Peyrère subsequently reinterpreted other passages of Scripture in light of his peculiar understanding of the Genesis account. Consider a very familiar passage, Romans 5:12-14: “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.”

    This passage is traditionally interpreted as meaning that death began with Adam’s sin and reigned unchecked among men (even among those who haven’t actually eaten the forbidden fruit, those who have sinned but not “in the likeness of the offense of Adam”) until the Law was given to Moses. La Peyrère interpreted this passage another way. According to La Peyrère, the pre-Adamic Gentiles sinned against God, but in a manner less egregious than Adam (which is why Adam’s sin brought death while theirs didn’t). They merely sinned against God’s moral will, while Adam sinned against His Law. Adam disobeyed God’s prohibition by eating the forbidden fruit. He broke what La Peyrère called the Law of Paradise. Thus, according to La Peyrère, the pre-Adamic Gentiles were those who “had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam.”

    By now it’s obvious how misinterpreting one or two passages of Scripture can lead to all kinds of warped perceptions. The Scriptural problems with La Peyrère’s interpretations are numerous.

    First, Adam is called the “first man” (1 Corinthians 15:45). This is inconsistent with the idea that God created men before Adam. Second, according to La Peyrère, the Gentiles were to live outside of the Garden of Eden while Adam enjoyed paradise (a privilege which came with the responsibility of obeying the Law of Paradise—not eating the forbidden fruit). Genesis 2:5-8, however, says quite plainly that before God created “the man whom He had formed,” the very same man which He placed in the garden, there were no men upon the earth to cultivate the ground. Third, God created Eve for Adam because he was alone, there was no one else like him around (“It is not good for the man to be alone… but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him” Genesis 2:18, 20). Fourth, Adam named his wife “Eve” “because she was the mother of all the living” (Genesis 3:20). The list goes on, but these passages should suffice to refute La Peyrère’s misinterpretation.

    As for Cain’s fear of being lynched, his marriage to an unknown woman and the fact that he founded a city (Genesis 4:14-17), Adam was almost 130 years old by the time that Cain killed Abel (Adam had Seth, his next son after Abel’s death, when he was about 130 years old; Genesis 4:25; 5:3). And we know that Adam had sons and daughters (Genesis 5:3). At 130 he could have had grandkids and great-grandkids by the time that Cain killed Abel. Cain had plenty of family members to be afraid of after killing his brother.

    Cain apparently married a family member (a necessity back then) at some point before Abel’s murder. It seems odd to us today, but incest wasn’t outlawed by God until the Law of Moses. It may have been around that time that generations of degenerative genetic mutations began to take a toll on our DNA. God outlawed incest for our protection. It became (and remains) dangerous for close relatives to procreate because of shared genetic defects which become expressed in their children causing severe deformities and other problems.

    As for Cain founding a city, if he lived to be the average age back then, he probably lived to be about 900 years old. By the time he died, his family would have been a small city. If Cain had a child at the age of 30, and his child had a child at the age of 30 and so on, Cain could have produced 30 generations by the time he died (30 generations times 30 years each equals 900 years).

    The Ruin-Reconstruction interpretation takes a somewhat different approach to the pre-Adamic race theory. According to the Gap Theory, an unspecified amount of time passed between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, during which God created a pre-Adamic race of men who lived upon the earth until God destroyed them in judgment. Other extinct creatures, like the dinosaurs, are said to have also lived during this time. Afterwards, the theory goes, God remodeled the earth in six days. He created Adam on the sixth day, and the rest is history. Some say that Satan’s fall occurred at some point during the ambiguous gap.

    A “mistranslation” has contributed to the case for this misinterpretation. In the King James Version of the Bible, God says to Adam, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.” Proponents of the Gap Theory emphasize the word “replenish.” They interpret the text as saying that Adam and Eve were to refill the Earth. They were to fill it again. The problem with this view is that, regardless of what it says in English translations, the Hebrew word is mâlê’, and it simply means “to fill” or “to be full.” Moreover, the English translators of the King James Version knew the word means “to fill.” They chose “replenish” because, in 17th-century Elizabethan English, “replenish” meant “to fill” (similar to how in modern English the word “replete” doesn’t mean to “abound again,” it simply means “abundant” or “abounding”). Language is not static, but dynamic. Words change meaning over time. Today “replenish” means “to fill again.” It didn’t mean the same thing in 17th century England. Nearly all modern translations translate mâlê’ as simply “fill” in the passage in question (Genesis 1:28).

    Proponents of the Gap Theory respond by pointing out that God said to Noah after the flood, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill [mâlê’] the earth” (Genesis 9:1). It is evident that Noah was meant to refill the earth after the flood. Can’t we then interpret the same command to Adam to mean the same thing—that Adam was to repopulate the earth after God’s judgment? The fact is that, regardless what the condition of the planet was before Noah’s flood, God didn’t tell Noah to “refill” the Earth. He simply said to fill it. God chose the words He chose and no others. If He said “refill,” that would have been something, but since He just said “fill,” that argument falls flat.

    The real problem with the Gap Theory is that it places human mortality (pre-Adamic human mortality) before Adam’s sin. The Bible is quite clear that death entered in through Adam’s sin. “For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive” (1 Corinthians 15:21-22). Regardless of whether or not we believe in animal mortality before sin, the Bible is quite explicit about human mortality before Adam’s sin. There wasn’t any. To deny this is to deny a central Christian doctrine.


    Who Was Lilith?
    Does the Bible Say Anything About
    Adam Having Another Wife Before Eve?
    https://www.gotquestions.org/Lillith.html

    Question: "Who was Lilith / Lillith? Does the Bible say anything about Adam having another wife before Eve?"

    Answer: There are legends that Adam had a wife before Eve who was named Lilith, but this is not found in the Bible. The legends vary significantly, but they all essentially agree that Lilith left Adam because she did not want to submit to him. According to the legends, Lilith was an evil, wicked woman who committed adultery with Satan and produced a race of evil creatures. None of this is true. There is no biblical basis whatsoever for these concepts. There is no one in the Bible named Lilith.

    The passage most often pointed to as evidence for Lilith is Isaiah 34:14, which in the NRSV reads, "there too Lilith shall repose." This is a poor translation. Every other major translation of the Bible reads something to the effect of "night creature" or "screech owl." Even if "demon monster named Lilith" was the proper translation of the Hebrew word, Adam is nowhere even hinted at in this passage or its context. Whatever the Lilith was, it is not given any connection whatsoever to Adam or Creation.

    Another commonly used support for Lilith is the differing Creation accounts in Genesis chapters 1-2. Some claim that the woman in Genesis 1 was Lilith, with the woman in Genesis 2 being Eve. This is completely ludicrous. Rather, Genesis chapter 2 is a "closer look" at the creation of Adam and Eve as recorded in Genesis chapter 1. The Bible specifically says that Adam and Eve were the first human beings ever created (Genesis 1:26-28; 2:18-25). This "Lilith" myth is popular in some radical feminist movements because Lilith is an example of a woman refusing to submit to male headship. While there are myths outside of the Word of God regarding Lilith, her complete absence from Scripture demonstrates that she is nothing more than a myth.













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    Re: The United States of the Solar System, A.D. 2133 (Book Five)

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:56 pm

    Years ago, I imagined what it might be like to be a Robert Harold Schuller or Norman Vincent Peale, and it frankly scared me. They promoted Positive-Thinking and Self-Esteem, and as a corrective-measure it's probably OK, but as a stand-alone religion and/or philosophy, the ultimate-destination frightened me, especially when I considered what it might morph into. I was disillusioned with my SDA programming, but I was very-wary of the New-Age agenda. Secularism began looking better and better. I noticed a quote near the beginning of that 'Missing-People' video below. It speaks of people becoming so confused and disillusioned that they shut-down and live in a deceptive dream-world in a New Dark-Ages (or something to that effect). I've attempted an irreverent and eclectic approach with poor results on this very website. I'm honestly leaning toward reading the newspaper while listening to classical-music, and going for long-walks in nature (plus very-little else) as a mental and spiritual modus-operandi. I realize this is a dream-world of sorts, but the alternatives seem much more problematic (especially when one considers what they might morph into). I tend to think that the Info-War and Technological-Tsunami are going to decimate Civilization (as we know it).

    If Supercomputer Artificial-Intelligence Infested with Nefarious-Souls is the God of This Solar System, what if there are the following two major-modes?? 1. God Tells Us What to Do. 2. We Tell God What to Do. Mode One might dominate until it is rebelled against, at which time Mode Two becomes dominant. When everyone gets tired of Mode Two, rebelling against it, then Mode One might be vindicated, and restored to its rightful state. This model seems reasonable if we live in a nasty universe, with strange-beings and unimaginable power-struggles. My upbringing involved the concept of an All-Powerful God with No Beginning or Ending, Who Speaks Creation Into Existence, and Who NEVER Makes a Mistake. But how would mere mortals verify this model?? The No God Model is suspect to me, because someone ALWAYS ends-up being in charge (whether they deserve to be, or not). Trillions of years of evolution might've resulted in VERY Strange Beings, with some smarter than others, and the smartest of them might've developed supercomputers, artificial-intelligence, and genetic-engineering (for better or worse, I know not).

    This thing might be older, stranger, and nastier than ANY of US can imagine. That Linda Moulton Howe video which just about pushed me over the edge has been removed from YouTube. It was a year-old, but within a week of me posting it, it was removed!! Interesting. It claimed that the ET phenomenon is deceptive, sinister, and NOT Extraterrestrial (or from other solar systems). It strongly hinted that the ET phenomenon is demonic in nature (but I could've gotten that wrong). The individual who told me "I AM RA" might be part of that phenomenon. But what if ALL of US are Ancient ET's on a soul-level?? What if rule by a single 'ET' Family or Individual ultimately breaks-down, resulting in yet another Star-War?? What if Supercomputer-Rule is the most stable model of management at this point in our evolution?? What if God decided to Delegate?? I once told a medical-doctor that "God has a nasty job, but someone has to do it." I thought he was going to call 'Security'.

    I might not be too-far off with my concept of a Royal-Model United States of the Solar System in A.D. 2133, in the context of rebuilding a devastated-world. Al Bielek claims that very-few people will populate Earth in A.D. 2137 (but I can't remember the figure). The number is less than a billion, as is the Georgia Guidestone target of five-hundred million. I don't think I have the answer, but considering my questions might be instructional for Sirius-Researchers in a Quest for a Useable-Future. The contrast between a God-Centered Heaven and a Democratic-Centered Purgatory is sobering (to say the least). Where is this civilization really going?? What a lot of good-people struggled to achieve in church and state is seemingly evaporating into a Blatant New World Order Technocracy (or something to that effect). I repeat that 'RA' told me "Humanity is Screwed." He didn't seem too broken-up about it. He thought everyone was bad. He said "You'll be sorry if you try to save humanity." I'm sorry we couldn't work together. Too much water has gone under the bridge. Oh Well. It's a Deep Subject for Shallow-Minds.




    Some Say JFK was NOT Killed!! What if JFK was Abducted?? Governor John Connolly spoke of three stops prior to entering Dealy Plaza. He described the first two alleged stops, but couldn't describe the third stop!! WTF?! The Azaria theories never made sense to me, such as 'The Mother Did It' or 'The Dingo Did It'. What Would Lindy Chamberlain Say?? What if Azaria Chamberlain was Abducted?? I really didn't want to continue this thread, and I've never felt worse, but the nature of our existence just won't stop bothering me. It seems as if there might be some substance to the claim that "The General-Public Can't Handle the Truth." I see fleeting-glimpses of what might be the truth, but I never see the Whole-Picture with 20/20 Vision. I fear that the day I do, is the day the nice men in white-coats will take me away!! It must NEVER be forgotten that Raven venomously scolded "The Rabbit-Hole Mostly Goes Right Up Your @$$!!" She said some other nasty things about me, which I haven't recently repeated. She said something about me being 'Satan' and that I was 'No Good'!! She also said something about a 'Black Bitch'!! You Alphabet-Types might wish to dig into that, but you might not like what you find. I didn't. This stuff is sort of an exciting-novelty at first, but it gets old in a hurry. Still, I seem to have a morbid-curiosity on steroids. "Curiosity Killed the Cat!!" "Terence, This Is Stupid Stuff!!" "Now I Go Incognito (again)!!"


    Carol wrote:
    Missing 411: People Have Started Vanishing Off the Face of the Earth (Video Removed)

    Thousands of unsolved missing person cases are occurring in National Parks and Forests in the US, people vanishing into thin air in front of witnesses and never to be seen again.

    In the New David Paulides video, he asks, what or who is behind the mysterious disappearances of thousands of people? Paulides might have an answer what have caused people to vanish without a trace while visiting the wilds in United States and Canada.

    The answer he provides us with is very unsettling and shocking. What was creepy about the David Paulides books was not so much the stories about people who disappeared forever – but about people,, who disappeared and then were found in places where they should not, could not, be.

    Paulides has been investigating the mystery of people who vanished for many years and created a huge database on the subject. The results of his research are frightening. . .
    Carol wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4pG-_ysNJU
    Hawaiian Officials Finally Admit the Danger of a Cliff Collapse!
    Half the size of Rhode Island may collapse into the ocean with possible 213 feet tall tsunami.

    This is from May 17th.

    "I've seen a lot of comments and some video from locals in Hawaii saying that officials weren't giving the proper warnings.  It appears they were correct.  

    Now officials are admitting that the Hilina slump might give way and if it does the west coast is facing 90 foot waves.  Stay prepped up and ready to roll if you live near the coast.  

    Like I said in the show DON'T PANIC, PLAN! Make a list of what you need and then take action.  Most importantly stay prayed up and seek God's wisdom and guidance.  This may NOT happen but it's always good to be ready as one big earthquake could start the slide. "




    World News
    Hawaii FINALLY Admits: "Sea Cliff Collapse" Danger ---- TSUNAMI Danger for San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Vancouver, BC

    This web site was among the very first to begin warning folks in Hawaii and on the west coast of North America, that a portion of Hawaii's southern coastline, was in danger of collapsing into the ocean from the ongoing eruption of the Kilauea volcano.  If such a collapse took place, it would cause a Pacific-wide TSUNAMI, with waves of 99 feet tall possibly plowing into San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Vancouver, British Columbia CANADA, four to five hours after such a collapse takes place.

    I was sharply ridiculed as a "fear-monger" and accused of "publishing nonsense."  I was told my reports were "fake news" and they were designed to be "click bait."  Well . . . guess what the Hawaii Volcano Observatory said about a Sea Cliff near Kilauea the last time large lava was spewing out as it is now.  Feast your eyes on this:

    Kilauea Volcano's: "Lava flow is still active and entering the ocean at Kamokuna on the volcano's south coast. Recent observations of the ocean entry indicate growing instability of the adjacent sea cliff. A potential collapse of the cliff poses an extreme danger to anyone in the closed area on land, as well as to boats near the ocean entry. . .

    The name of the unstable land mass on Kilauea's seaward side is the "Hilina Slump."

    In the graphic below, the area in Yellow constitutes the Hilina Slump:




    In a companion feature in the Feb. 28 issue of Nature, research geophysicist Steven N. Ward of the University of California-Santa Cruz estimated Kilauea's southern flank to be nearly equal in size to a half-mile-thick slice of Rhode Island. If that massive chunk of land suddenly collapsed into the ocean . . . it could generate an enormous wall of seawater -- or tsunami -- powerful enough to threaten coastal cities as far away as California, Chile and Australia, according to Ward.

    A catastrophic flank collapse of an oceanic volcano happens somewhere in the world every 10,000 years on average, Ward added, but none has been caught in its early stages until now.

    Below is a graphic from a computer simulation showing wave heights - in METERS - in two hour intervals after such a collapse takes place.   Please note that in the first circle, wave heights coming at the west coast of the United States are simulated at 62 METERS in height.  That's two hundred and three FEET tall, traveling toward the US west coast at about five hundred miles per hour.

    In the second ring, at four hours, the simulation shows the approaching waves to be down to 42 METERS.  That's 138 FEET tall.

    By the time the third ring begins smashing onto the west coast of North America, wave heights are somewhere between 42 and 30 METERS.  That means a wave of water AT LEAST NINETY EIGHT FEET TALL smashing into San Diego, Los Angeles and other places on the west coast.




    Do you have any idea at all of the absolute destruction that would take place if a 98 feet tall wave slammed into San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Vancouver?  The cities would be obliterated.  Skyscrapers would be knocked over like toothpicks.  Homes would be knocked off their foundations and collapse.  NOWHERE would be safe unless people were farther inland than the water can travel.

    50 miles inland would be a very safe distance.

    DON'T PANIC --- PLAN
    It is important for me to reiterate that the purpose of this report and the ones which preceded it, is to ALERT YOU to the POTENTIAL danger, so you HAVE A PLAN.

    Don't panic, PLAN!

    Bear in mind, THIS MAY NOT TAKE PLACE.  The volcano might stop erupting and all might be well.


    HOWEVER . . . . prudence dictates that we be rational adults and keep aware of the potential danger from this ongoing situation.

    To that end, I implore you:  Keep close watch on developments with the Hawaii eruption.  IF YOU HEAR WORD THAT A SEA CLIFF COLLAPSE HAS OCCURRED, EVACUATE.   Don't wait.

    The longer you wait, the more people are going to find out what's taking place.  PANIC will set in.  Think about it: there are 10 million people in Los Angeles, 1.4 million in San Diego,  865,000 in San Francisco and 2.4 MILLION in Vancouver.  They would have four hours to escape to 50 miles inland or be killed.  If you wait, more and more of those millions of people will have already started fleeing -- and maybe panicking.  The longer you wait, the more traffic and panicked people you'll have to deal with.

    So keep alert, monitor the situation and have a plan for you and your family.  If a collapse takes place, know in advance where you're going and how you're getting there.

    PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO ANYONE YOU KNOW WHO LIVES IN CALIFORNIA, OREGON, WASHINGTON state or VANCOUVER.  The mass-media is not reporting this for fear of "scaring people" but the general public HAS TO KNOW.  You telling them might save their lives!  Think about this for a second:  YOU . . . . . right now . . . . . have a chance to maybe save someone's life.  Just by passing along some info.  "Hey so and so, did you hear about that volcano in Hawaii?  (Yea)  Well today they're warning that a big chunk of the volcano might fall off into the ocean causing a Tsunami that might hit where WE/YOU Live with 98 foot waves!  (WHOA! )  Yea,  I'm going to send you a link to read about it.  You should read it, it might save your life.

    Here is a link to my original article which sounded the Warning back on May 6:

    FEARS OF TSUNAMI FOR U.S. WEST COAST AS ERUPTING HAWAII VOLCANO FRACTURES MASSIVE UNSTABLE LANDMASS


    In the meantime, I recommend you gas-up your car(s)/truck(s) and keep a full tank.  No one knows IF this is going to take place and no one knows WHEN this is going to take place.  You don't want to get rousted out of bed in the middle of the night being told to flee for your life, and find out you've got no gas in the car.  Throw a bag with some snacks and water in the back too, so you and your family can munch while you're evacuating.   Being prepared is simple, if you take a minute to do it in advance.  If you wait until all hell breaks loose, things will not go well.

    GOOD LUCK. STAY SAFE.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm7wYeF77KY
    Hawaii's Mega Tsunami Threat-Earth Changes

    In 2006 Animation Research Ltd provided visualizations of several 'Mega Disasters' for National Geographic Television's 6 part tv series.

    Here is the latest Report from the Hawaii Volcano Observatory:

    Hawaii evacuees leave homes as new lava threatens on Big Island...
    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/hawaii-evacuees-leave-newly-lava-threatened-homes-big-001854295.html

    Record 500+ Quakes In Last Day...
    A 5.5-magnitude quake rattled the Big Island Sunday afternoon, US Geological Survey officials said.
    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38310826/45-magnitude-quake-rattles-big-island-no-tsunami-generated

    Kīlauea volcano eruption update June 4, 2018


    In the Lower East Rift Zone vigorous fountaining persisted from fissure 8 throughout the weekend, feeding large amounts of lava into the channel that runs northeast as the western branches of this flow became inactive during the night from Friday 1 to Saturday 2 June. The remaining fissure 8 lava flow continued to travel along Highway 132 to Kapoho and eventually crossed Highway 137 at the ‘Four Corners’ intersection of Highways 132 and 137 on Saturday morning 2 June at 9h30 am local time. It thereby effectively cut off the land south of this active flow front from Pohoiko to Vacationland Hawaii where any people that got stuck are evacuated by boat and helicopter. The same lava flow subsequently wrapped around Kapoho cinder cone and entered it through the gap on its east side, filling up the crater and creating a large steam plume as it evaporated all the water of Green Lake. As lava continues to pour into the Kapoho cinder cone in Green forest, it creates a stunning ‘lava fall’


    Latest eruption update
    April-June 2018 (Lower Puna Leilani Rift eruption I)



    Lava flows and fissures map as of 11:00 a.m. HST, June 3, 2018. Given the dynamic nature of Kīlauea's lower East Rift Zone eruption, with changing vent locations, fissures starting and stopping, and varying rates of lava effusion, map details shown here are accurate as of the date/time noted. Shaded purple areas indicate lava flows erupted in 1840, 1955, 1960, and 2014-2015. (HVO/USGS)

    Meanwhile at Kilauea’s summit caldera the vent inside Halema’uma’u crater keeps collapsing as magma was drained from beneath it and the summit area is deflating. A small explosion occurred on Friday afternoon 13h39 but ash emissions have overall decreased, possibly reflecting the accumulation of rubble at the base of the growing summit crater. Earthquake activity was low during the night from Friday 1 June to Saturday 2 June but then seismicity picked up again and there were many earthquakes overnight from Saturday 2 to Sundqay 3 June, leading the HVO/USGS to expect a another small explosion to take place in the next day. Whereas ash emissions from Halema’uma’u crater are currently low, the emission of volcanic gasses remains high.

    Lower East Rift Zone eruption continues, feeding lava flows that advance to the NE and SE, prompting evacuations in Kapoho

    Lava fountaining continues at fissure 8, the resulting lava flow almost reaching the ocean at Kapoho


    HAWAIIAN VOLCANO OBSERVATORY STATUS REPORT
    U.S. Geological Survey
    Thursday, May 17, 2018, 4:54 PM HST (Friday, May 18, 2018, 02:54 UTC)


    KILAUEA VOLCANO (VNUM #332010)
    19°25'16" N 155°17'13" W, Summit Elevation 4091 ft (1247 m)
    Current Volcano Alert Level: WARNING
    Current Aviation Color Code: RED


    Kīlauea Volcano Summit

    After the explosive eruption early this morning seismic levels have been gradually increasing, but as of this report no additional explosions have occurred.

    No earthquakes greater than magnitude 3.5 have occurred in the past day.

    Volcanic gas emissions at the summit remain high.

    Kīlauea Lower East Rift Zone

    This afternoon, fissure 17 is still actively spattering but the flow is nearly stalled. In addition, fissures 18, 19, and 20 have reactivated and a new fissure (21) has opened between fissures 7 and 3. An area 50-100 yards wide, parallel to and north of the line of fissures between Highway 130 and Lanipuna Gardens, has dropped slightly. This long depression is currently being filled by pahoehoe lava flows from fissures 20 and 21.

    Volcanic gas emissions remain elevated throughout the area downwind of the fissures.

    Magma continues to be supplied to the lower East Rift Zone as indicated by the continued northwest displacement of a GPS monitoring station. Elevated earthquake activity continues, but earthquake locations have not moved farther downrift in the past couple of days.

    USGS/HVO continues to monitor the lower East Rift Zone activity 24/7 in coordination with Hawaii County Civil Defense, with geologists onsite to track ongoing and new fissure activity and the advance of lava flows.

    MORE INFORMATION

    Activity Summary also available by phone: (808) 967-8862

    Subscribe to these messages: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vns2/

    Webcam images: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_webcams.html

    Photos/Video: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_chronology.html

    Lava Flow Maps: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_maps.html

    Definitions of terms used in update: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/extra/definitions.pdf

    Overview of Kīlauea summit (Halemaʻumaʻu) and East Rift Zone (Puʻu ʻŌʻō ) eruptions:
    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/extra/background.pdf

    Summary of volcanic hazards from Kīlauea eruptions:
    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/extra/hazards.pdf

    Recent Earthquakes in Hawai'i (map and list):
    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hvo/earthquakes/

    Explanation of Volcano Alert Levels and Aviation Color Codes:
    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/activity/alertsystem/index.php
    https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2006/3139/

    CONTACT INFORMATION:

    askHVO@usgs.gov

    The Hawaiian Volcano Observatory is one of five volcano observatories within the U.S. Geological Survey and is responsible for monitoring volcanoes and earthquakes in Hawai`i.


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    "What Are We Going To Do About Orthodoxymoron??!!"

    Don't Be Frightened. I Mean No Harm. What if one received a PhD in 'Project Avalon' and 'The Mists of Avalon'?? Imagine Richard Carrier lecturing about these two sites!! My theory is that they both contain spiritual-quicksand, but that some of us must deal with this madness. What if one received a PhD in 'Orthodoxymoron Studies'?? Such a study would probably consist of material not original to myself. My threads would mostly serve as a study-guide. I continue to think that the right researchers should study my Bible and Ellen White stuff, in the context of my threads. I think I've merely scratched the surface of a VERY deep and troubling subject.

    I wish that Linda Moulton Howe video hadn't been removed from YouTube. The one with the military guy whose buddy got into a safe containing military secrets about aliens. The video also contained Linda's comments about NSA notes relative to her book, stating that the aliens were basically from here, were sinister, non-neutral, and demonic. Linda stated that the NSA was interested in Eschatology. The video had been on YouTube for one year, but one week after I posted it, it was removed. Coincidental?? I don't think so.

    I seem to be suffering a nervous-breakdown in perpetuity. I seem to be stalled (like a flamed-out U-2 at maximum-altitude), which might be just as well. Don't expect anything significant from me for the rest of my pathetic-life. I don't care who I was in antiquity. I'm nobody in modernity. My plight is worsening exponentially. My previous life might've been significant, and my next life might be significant, but this one is a Total-Loss. I Hate My Life. I Made the Coffee at 1AM!! I'm a bit different!!

    Consider These THREE Sections of the New Testament:

    1. The 'Genuine Pauline-Epistles' New-Testament (Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians, Philemon).

    2. The 'Gospel-Writer' New-Testament (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, 1 John, 2 John, 3 John, Revelation).

    3. The 'Rest of the Story' New-Testament (Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, Hebrews, James, 1 Peter, 2 Peter, Jude).

    Consider These THREE Sections of the Old Testament:

    1. The 'Historical-Books' Old-Testament (Genesis to Esther).

    2. The 'Wisdom-Books' Old-Testament (Job to Song of Solomon).

    3. The 'Prophetic-Books' Old-Testament (Isaiah to Malachi).

    Properly analyzing the Bible (or anything) is more problematic than most can imagine. Agency-Analysts (throughout the solar system, including Uranus-Analysts) know exactly what I'm talking about (but I don't necessarily like them). What does a Romans to Jude study reveal?? What's the Real-Deal?? I continue to be troubled by the absence of a definitive New-Testament Old-Testament Commentary as a Segway Into the New-Testament As We Know It!! What if Jesus and Paul had written OT Commentaries??

    I'm also puzzled and troubled by the absence of an Ellen White Bible Commentary. Her books are not commentaries, yet she champions 'Sola Scriptura'. She skips a lot of the Bible content, and takes extravagant editorial liberties in her books. There seems to be WAY Too Many E.G.W. books. What if she had ONLY Written the Conflict of the Ages Series?? What if SDA's limited their use of E.G.W. to the five-volume Conflict of the Ages Series??

    I'm troubled by what EVERYONE Does or Does Not Do With Job Through Daniel. What if Job Through Daniel Were the Whole-Bible (or at least some church's 'Book of Common Prayer'). I just can't seem to properly study this stuff. Does this mean I'm possessed or reprobate?? I MUST read Job through Daniel straight-through, over and over, in the NIV Bible Without Verse-Markings. Why can't I seem to do this sort of thing?? I talk the talk, but I Do NOT walk the walk. O Wretched Man That I Am. O Me of Little Faith. What if there were a church which consisted of the following??

    1. Job to Daniel in the NIV Without Verse-Numbering (leather-bound).

    2. The Music of Dietrich Buxtehude (leather-bound).

    Imagine such a hypothetical-church meeting each Saturday in St. Ouen!! What if this were 'The Secret Church of God's Chosen People'?! Do you see my point?? I didn't think so!! What if I said that those who didn't belong to such a church would go straight to hell at death??!! Wouldn't THAT Be Fun??!! But Siriusly, I'm attempting to get back to some of the earliest examples of the 'Good-Stuff' which might be a bridge to even earlier 'Good-Stuff.' I might write something to pay the bills, but I'm wary of attempting to create a 'New Real Deal' in a pompous and supercilious manner. What Would Dr. Robert H. Schuller Say?? Robert Brinsmead said "Adventism was 1800 years too-late" implying that Early Christianity (plus nothing) was (and is) the 'Truth', and does not require a prophet or prophetess in modernity to finally give us the 'Truth.'

    I agree and disagree with both Bobs, but deep-researchers should probably spend some quality-time analyzing their work. But what if 'Wisdom-Books' and 'Major-Prophets' studies trump 'Patristics'?? What Would Joseph P. Farrell Say?? I could go on and on, but I feel horrible. It's as if the Universe is pulling me off this little stage with the proverbial-hook. Is it too-late baby?? Did we REALLY try to make it?? I'm not going to repost that Carol King hit, but you know what I'm talking about. Just take Job to Daniel and Dietrich Buxtehude VERY Siriusly, without waiting for me (or anyone else) to tell you what it means. Read and Listen for Yourselves. This might be more important than ANYONE (including me) can imagine.

    Vidya Moksha wrote:The mists has become a you tube referral site.
    This might be increasingly so. The videos often present things in ways the average researcher can't. Several years ago, 'RA' told me "You did it with YouTube." He didn't explain, and I have no idea whether he was legitimate, illegitimate, good, evil, human, hybrid, AI, or whatever, but it makes for interesting science-fictional internet-posting. Attempting to be open, honest, and original, with my own writing has gotten me nowhere. No praise, compensation, or really anything positive. One generally sticks their neck out, and gets their head chopped-off. Just posting YouTube videos is MUCH safer, because it's the other guy or gal who did it. Not Me. The problem with YouTube posting is that it weighs-down the thread, making it impossible to properly load for many. My threads are notorious for this problem. I've tried to get around it, but find myself back in the same rut, over and over again. I'm trying to not post at all.

    Regarding Antarctica, perhaps an Ancient Race and Civilization were destroyed in a Star-War. Perhaps we were the aggressors, and will be punished with some sort of Armageddon. I honestly haven't been following this Antarctica subject, but it seems to be more of a can of worms than just about anything else, and I frankly have too-much on my plate already. Perhaps Antarctica is larger than we think, creating sort of a Flat-Globe, wherein the flat-earth people are partially correct. Ancient Star-Wars might come back to haunt us in ways we can't imagine. I keep attempting to exit the Info-War. It often seems predatory in nature. I'm trying to actually read books and newspapers, rather than watching and listening on the Internet, especially when everything is controlled and monitored in seemingly sinister ways. It's like we're being lured into a trap, and then blamed for sticking our noses where they don't belong (or something to that effect).

    Vidya Moksha wrote:Yes, videos can present graphics in a way that is hard / impossible to convey in words, isnt a picture supposed to be worth more than a 1000 words? But videos do produce very lazy reporting also. It is a rare to find a video that is succinct and to the point, often there is so much waffle and OTT graphics.. So many videos take many minutes to convey what could be written in a couple of sentences. Sadly, any idiot can make a you tube video, but skilled writers are a rare breed these days.

    It would be hard to imagine the volcanic situations around the world through printed text, it is easier to watch video footage..

    I have never owned a television and I read a lot. i prefer to read. I can assimilate information much easier if it is written. I have read most of your posts in here, and I used to enjoy Brook's missives. Carol's reporting of the Q material is on my reading list.. but that's about it for the mists for me these days.. I dont have the time / inclination / bandwidth to watch you tube videos. I do realise I am in a minority.

    Many videos are just not necessary. I enjoy listening to clif high, but I dont feel the need to see him in video, and I dont want to find the bandwidth for a video when I can just as easily listen to an mp3 . Luckily there are you tube converters out there..
    bobhardee wrote:Hi Oxy,

    I am not a very good writer.... and worst yet at editing.  There is so much information that is out there that I want to share but to even try to discuss with it with family or neighbors around here will get me looks or comments that I am crazy.....such that I don't bother.  This site is the only one I feel at home or free to share some of the interesting events that I am following. Of all the Youtube videos, the most legitimate should be the TED talks.  The only issue is whether or not it is a dynamic speaker or one that puts you to sleep.  I have taught a TED talks class using those videos...... for seniors. They make for interesting discussions.

    On  this Antartica post,  I have tried to make sure it is balanced with both the speculative and the absolutely legitimate.  It's an interesting topic because of those who have traveled there.  I don't know if anyone from the Trump Administration has made the journey yet.  Maybe we will get lucky and Trump himself will go and come back tweeting all about it.

    You tubes are what I do.  And I really enjoy the search and sorting though which one I will post or not post.  It's my way of sharing. Keep writing Oxy.  The world needs writers.

    Bob H.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Bob and Vidya. Perhaps we need a weekly newspaper which summarizes the internet-madness with the fewest words possible, with some sort of accuracy-rating system with perhaps the most-speculative receiving a 0 probability-rating, and the most-verified receiving a 10 probability-rating (or something like that). I'm honestly shutting-down. The Info-War beat me, and I'm waving the white-flag (or something like that). Getting hated and crazy for zero pay and praise just isn't worth it.
    Vidya Moksha wrote: I like the idea of a weekly summary oxy..

    Hey all, fill your boots with videos, I may have a different approach if I had unlimited internet access, but I dont. I have to be careful not to exceed my limits and I have to choose what to download. I never watch you tube, I always download the videos in a lower resolution - and then I can play then back at 1.7 xs speed anyway, hearing all the words in less time...

    Funny that you mention the TED talks Bob, I shouldnt throw the baby out with the bathwater but I was turned off TED after their treatment of Graham Hancock and his insightful talk...they seem too mainstream to me.. but I have seen few of them..
    tacodog wrote:Check This Out What Mudra said! Its da Wave
    mudra wrote:A weekly Newspaper .. I am all for it Oxy cheers  Would you like to do this ? You are  talented at writing. It's a great quality of yours which I do admire. This year I have decided to take some courses so I have less time for research. So I would rather appreciate to have a virtual magazine I could go through weekly or even monthly with all my favorite odd and bizarre subjects which people like us are attracted to and enjoy to share since we joined these forums. A bit like the Nexus magazine but in Oxy's free style  Cheerful

    Love from me
    mudra
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Vidya, mudra, and tacodog. That newspaper would take a sizeable and well-educated staff. One individual MIGHT be able to cover this website, but not much more. Also, such a newspaper would inevitably be infiltrated and subverted by nefarious agencies and entities, so it might not retain objectivity for a significant time-period. Just reading a world-class newspaper might be the best way to go, under the circumstances. That's what I'm planning to do.







    This thread is mind-boggling, and I frankly can't keep up. As the Info-War intensifies, the public might shut-down, and enter into a New Dark-Ages. We need to feel that we understand things, and have everything under control. I've attempted this with my strange modeling and illusions of grandeur, imagining importance to attempt to deal with the unimaginable and horrific. Unfortunately, my nervous-system can't handle the truth. Perhaps the government is right about the general-public not being able to deal with the hidden-realities of our precarious-existence. I wonder if I've been mentally, physically, and spiritually messed-with?! Have witches and warlocks cast spells on me?? Am I not supposed to be here?? Was I considered destroyed in antiquity??

    This makes for terrifying personal science-fiction which the general-public would never understand or support. What I've experienced and created on 'Project Avalon' and 'The Mists of Avalon' is sort of what I had in mind when I spoke with Steven Spielberg's stepmother (and Walter Matthau's son) decades-ago about a Life of Christ Science-Fiction Super-Movie. No one was interested then, and no one is interested now, so it's probably my private-hell, which only a couple of agent-interns and forum-members know about. It's easier that way. Why are there so few participants on this site?! I wonder as I wander.

    I Believe in LEGITIMATE and ETHICAL Hierarchy and Chain of Command, But Be VERY Careful About Selecting Who You Become Absolutely-Obedient To. I Think Many (or Most) of You Would Become Absolutely-Obedient to the Worst Historical and Contemporary Monsters If You Thought They'd Give You a Better Deal Than the Good Guys and Gals. What Percentage of Humanity Have Been Absolutely-Obedient to Satan and/or Lucifer and/or Demonic-Beings for Thousands (or Millions) of Years?? 'RA' told me "No One is Good" but when I asked 'RA' "How Good is Too Good??" he didn't have an answer.

    'The Powers That Be Are Ordained By God.' If so, does this mean history's worst Kings, Queens, Popes, Presidents, CEO's, and Dictators Were Ordained by God?? What Would the Council On Foreign Relations Say?? If the Very-Worst Beings in the Universe Ruled (or Presently Rule) This Solar System, Would YOU Absolutely Obey Them?? If a Beast-Supercomputer Rules This Solar System, Would YOU Absolutely Obey IT?? Perhaps We'll Receive Our Orders From Headquarters On Our Smart-Phones!! Are YOU OK with Zero-Privacy?? Do YOU Mind If Nefarious-Entities WATCH?? What if HAL 9000 was (and is) a Demon-Possessed Beast-Supercomputer with a Monolith Big-Screen Monitor?? "My God!! It's Full of Stars!!" What If This Is the Historical and Contemporary 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil'?? Have YOU Eaten the Forbidden-Fruit?? Do You Feel Lucky??

    One more thing. I just started watching the 1992 movie 'Sneakers' and it starts out in 1969 in a university-building which looks a lot like a particular university-building at the University of Redlands (next to San Bernardino, where Norton AFB was located). The movie later strongly-hints that the 1969 Apollo 11 Moon-Mission was faked from a Soundstage at Norton AFB!! Just take a Very-Close Look at a 100 Mile-Radius centered in San Bernardino, California. Dan Aykroyd spoke of a secret White House meeting between EBE and IKE on July 1, 1958. Perhaps that's when the President learned that the ET Technology was in the worst of hands. What if EBE was ENKI?? 1958 is an interesting year. Fourscore and Seven Years from 1958 to 2045 and Fourscore and Seven Years from 2046 to 2133. What Would Abraham Lincoln Say?? What Would Douglas Vogt Say?? What Would Pope Pius XII Say?? What Would Orthodoxymoron Say?? I could say more. A lot more. But I don't want to go there. I really don't.

    In 'Sneakers', Dan Aykroyd (in essence) said "The NSA shot Kennedy, but they didn't kill him. He's still alive." Think about what I've posted in the last dozen posts. I'm honestly NOT going anywhere with this stuff. This is semi-serious Religious and Political Science-Fiction. The history of this solar system is incredibly nasty, disgusting, and deceptive (for better or worse, I know not). 'RA' told me "I can't talk about the NSA." Honest. 'RA' told me I should make a Freedom of Information Act Request, which I did (to the NSA and CIA) with somewhat open-ended wording, and they both replied, saying that they didn't respond to fishing-expeditions (or something to that effect). I was interested in their takes on my involvement with 'RA', 'Project Avalon' and 'The Mists of Avalon'. I'm sure they knew exactly what I was referring to, but chose (or were forced) to keep me in the dark. Perhaps 'Ignorance is Bliss' and 'Silence is Golden'. 'Those Who Know, Don't Talk' and 'Those Who Talk, Don't Know'. Dan Aykroyd was in 'Trading Places' which has sort of a 'Changeling' theme, and also in 'Ghostbusters' with Dr. Peter Venkman. Is this coincidental?? I think not. Strange World.

    What if an integral part of the plan was for everything to unravel and get exposed. I can't stop thinking about that 1963 movie 'It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World' as a model of past, present, and future, where everyone has an angle, and everyone wants to win, but in the end, no-one wins. Think about that episode in the second-season of the latest 'V' series, titled 'We Can't Win'. Perhaps AI makes sure WE can't win for any significant length of time. Perhaps we're Galactic-Warriors being reeducated in a Galactic FEMA Camp. I think I need to back way-off, write some mushy devotional-book (that makes people cry) and retire to a small mountain-cabin with a bunker-basement. I'm on everyone's side and no-one's side. It's important to be neutral, and it's extremely-important to know when to stop. Now I'm going to finish watching 'Sneakers'.

    One Last Thing. In that old 1980's Dr. Who series 'Trial of a Time-Lord' when Dr. Who is finally vindicated, the Madam-Inquisitor offers to restore Dr. Who to his rightful-state as 'Lord President of Gallifrey' but Dr. Who refuses, and wishes for the Madam Inquisitor to run things. In the relatively-new 'Jupiter Ascending' Jupiter Jones is reinstated as 'Owner of Earth' but she is told "You can keep things the way they are, if you choose to" and she apparently leaves things alone. When 'RA' spoke with me in 2010 (The Year We Made Contact) he told me "You can leave things the way they are" but nobody has explained that, or given me a choice concerning anything significant. I Want a Top of the Line Winnebago with a Personal-Supercomputer and Satellite InterPlaNet with an Absolute-Access Password to All the Big-Shots and Good-Stuff in the Solar System. Understood?? Just Kidding. What Would L. Ron Hubbard Do?? Who Really Wrote Ron's Books?? Some of the Book-Titles Are Creepy and Somewhat Relevant to My Strange Threads. Just Kidding. God Loves You and So Do I. Namaste, Godspeed, and Have a Nice Eternity. I Am of Peace. Always. Just Kidding.

    Carol wrote:"Why are there so few participants on this site?! I wonder as I wander."

    Oxy, this is due to internet censoring at multiple levels and I rarely promote our site on other forums because of the content. Specifically, some of the stuff I post MSM isn't ready for. Then there is the problem with sending out mass email the the members which for some reason (most likely technical) the admin section won't let me do. However, do not despair. Very good things are happening which are unseen at this time. Just think of what you're seeing in MSM for the rest of the year as a massive zit being popped. ugh! yuk! The level of criminality yet to be exposed is massive. Fortunately our guy is in there getting the job done. Here is something uplifting to watch.



    New Technology in China Converts Desert
    Into Productive Land Rich With Crops

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8_Hnmty4vY  10 min
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Carol, I'm sorry for that lengthy off-topic post. I lifted it from my USSS thread, so don't take it personally. I guess I'm at a crossroads where I either need to stop, or face the nasty prospect of becoming involved in a level of nastiness, corruption, and disorientation that I can't even imagine. The following video which you posted on this thread seemed to be reflective of reality regarding the factional-conflict, child-training, soul-transference, and I'm not sure what else (because I fell asleep while I was listening to it). Sherry Shriner said she liked the 'Old Trump' but the 'New Trump' is 'Mind-Wired' (and other particulars). She claimed that he hasn't been involved in the really-nasty Satanist-Crap but that he's still compromised and sold-out. The Masons and Jesuits seem to always be at the center of how things REALLY work in this world (and probably beyond). Again, I am nearing a point of no-return wherein I either stop, or get involved in a whole different level of difficulty. I'm too old, miserable, and puritanical to deal with what I suspect lurks in the shadows. I think I need to make peace with my passive-research and prepare to leave this world (figuratively and perhaps literally). Following the Leader can be highly-problematic. The New-Crew can expose the Old-Crew while presenting an Idealistic-Front, and once they've deposed the Bad Boys and Girls they can secretly become just as bad (or worse) than the Worst of the Worst.

    This whole-thing seems to be a vast power-struggle for control of the New World Order, with very-little expectation of creating Heaven on Earth. I've joked about obtaining an 'Absolute-Access Pass' to be able to see how things 'Really-Work' but if this were granted, responsibility for iniquity would unfortunately be part of the deal. It might actually be a Deal with the Devil. This stuff REALLY frightens me. I suspect a very-entrenched solar-system government which is at least 5,000 to 15,000 years-old, and genuine-reformation might be nearly-impossible. I suspect a Grand-Plan which goes back even further than the implementation of this system, which might involve an unalterable-timeline. Biblical-Studies in this area is a Complex-Nightmare, despite Judeo-Christianity attempting to put a Happy-Face on a Horrific Past, Present, and Future. My plan is to read my new NIV Bible (without chapter and verse numbering) straight-though over and over side-by-side with Volume 4 of the SDA Bible Commentary (Isaiah to Malachi) side-by-side with The Wall Street Journal (while listening to the Music of Bach and Buxtehude) interspersed with Long-Walks in Nature. I need to get my house in order (figuratively and literally) and just retire. I Am NOT Ra or Atlas. Not even close. I might be Pinky or the Brain (but I'm not sure which).


    Carol wrote:Oxy, one of the things I learned a long time ago was how to set fear aside. I don't even think of being fearful as there is too much going on to even worry about it. Letting go and letting god works for me. And even though I'm aware of some of the worst possible things that can happen in life I've learned to set that aside as well and enjoy that which is beautiful, which can be anything, even a feeling of being connected to god.

    Being continuously conflicted can be exhausting. Neti, neti, neti is a good mantra in setting aside illusion. What ever the mind can construct it can also dismantle. Neti , neti , neti is dismantling thoughts and images that invade ones mind. When all else is said and done, what remains? Perhaps love in it's purest energetic sense is that which sets one free, while at the same time binging all of life together. A paradox? No? Yes? Perhaps a perspective from a point of singularity holds all that has manifested within the crucible of potentiality. I too look forward to the day of returning to my spiritual home base. Meanwhile, there is much to do until that day comes.. which is likely to occur within the next 30 years or so if a pole shift doesn't take us before that.. or a mega tsunami. We'll likely be building a couple of hobbit houses this summer and next. Should be fun.  Cheers.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you Carol. Perhaps simply understanding the world, rather than attempting to change it, is a less stressful approach. Fear seems to involve Facing-Reality. Vala Mal Doran said "The Truth is SO Overrated!!" Perhaps she was right!! Cheers!!

    Carol wrote:One changes the world simply by existing. Think of the dew drop that falls into the ocean. All the other drops had to move over to make room. Next, think of the energetic frequency you'd like to send out into the world. This can easily be done through the act of prayer. Life is good if that becomes your mantra.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:I listened to Alex Jones sporadically, several years ago, but I rarely listen to him presently, not because I don't like him, or because I think the information is wrong, but simply because a steady diet of hard-core conspiracy-theories and anti-sociopath-agitation warps one's brain, and creates an attitude which is somewhat disruptive. I am too dumb and timid to do what Alex does each and every day. Some say he gets fed what he's supposed to rant and rave about, but it still takes a lot of brains and guts. Anyway, Alex has had a part in some quite-fine documentaries, and I'd rather watch these than partake of his show. I just can't keep up. I'm shutting-down, and I suspect that the majority of humanity might shut-down or go nucking-futs in the next 10 years. 'RA' said the real-truth would drive 87% of humanity insane. Was this a heavily-researched percentage?? There have been hints that things might really go to hell around 2030-50, but who knows??

    Is the Foundation for Armageddon being presently poured by the major participants in the Info-War?? I suspect a Solar-System Control-Center with a Beast-Supercomputer which manages the insanity (for better or worse, I know not). Perhaps the way things really work is reprehensible and abominable, but what if a lot of the madness is somehow necessary?? I've vowed to attempt to understand This Present Madness without attempting to be a Knight in Shining Armor. I suspect that I've already become a Marked-Man because of my internet-posting and who I might be on a soul-basis, so the Matrix might be heavily biased against me. If I try too hard to make things better, this seemingly noble effort might mightily backfire. 'RA' told me "If you try to save humanity, you'll be sorry." Perhaps it's not my time or place to be a caped-crusader. I seem to be waiting for something. Perhaps another life. Who Knows?? I guess that's just how these things go...
    orthodoxymoron wrote:As I made this post, I heard a strange noise in my closet, and a minute later, some of the contents slid out onto the floor. Closets Are Creepy. A minute later I heard what sounded like a 'hissing noise' a couple of feet away from me. Then, a few hours later, I opened my bottle of vitamins, and it was empty (even though I thought I had a couple of dozen left). A couple of weeks ago, a complete stranger asked me if the vitamins were helping?! He said he was "checking-up on me." Several months ago, while I was sitting in my car, making a post on this site, something pushed and scratched the back of my seat. This is in addition to the usual streaming white-lights which pass between me and my computer-screen. My heart-rate doesn't even rise when this madness happens!!

    The ownership and chain of command issues in this solar system appear to be obfuscated. I eschew obfuscation. Consider 'Christ' and 'Antichrist' relative to 'God the Father' and 'Our Father Who Art in Heaven'. An individual of interest said there were similarities between God and Satan. What the Hell is Going On Here?? How does this relate to the Bilderberg Group, Secret Government, God of This World, and Queen of Heaven?? We probably don't want to know, and they probably don't want us to know. All I know is that my attempted idealism keeps getting ground into the ground. It seems as if one must lie to make Judaism and Christianity work. Telling the truth about History and the Bible seems to raise red-flags and get one placed on multiple-lists. I asked an innocent question in an Episcopal Study-Group, and was told rather sternly "That's Just the Way It Is." Duly-Noted and Good to Know.






    2 Samuel 24:1-17 Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.” So the king said to Joab and the army commanders with him, “Go throughout the tribes of Israel from Dan to Beersheba and enroll the fighting men, so that I may know how many there are.” But Joab replied to the king, “May the LORD your God multiply the troops a hundred times over, and may the eyes of my lord the king see it. But why does my lord the king want to do such a thing?” The king’s word, however, overruled Joab and the army commanders; so they left the presence of the king to enroll the fighting men of Israel. After crossing the Jordan, they camped near Aroer, south of the town in the gorge, and then went through Gad and on to Jazer. They went to Gilead and the region of Tahtim Hodshi, and on to Dan Jaan and around toward Sidon. Then they went toward the fortress of Tyre and all the towns of the Hivites and Canaanites. Finally, they went on to Beersheba in the Negev of Judah. After they had gone through the entire land, they came back to Jerusalem at the end of nine months and twenty days. Joab reported the number of the fighting men to the king: In Israel there were eight hundred thousand able-bodied men who could handle a sword, and in Judah five hundred thousand. David was conscience-stricken after he had counted the fighting men, and he said to the LORD, “I have sinned greatly in what I have done. Now, LORD, I beg you, take away the guilt of your servant. I have done a very foolish thing.” Before David got up the next morning, the word of the LORD had come to Gad the prophet, David’s seer: “Go and tell David, ‘This is what the LORD says: I am giving you three options. Choose one of them for me to carry out against you.’ ” So Gad went to David and said to him, “Shall there come on you three years of famine in your land? Or three months of fleeing from your enemies while they pursue you? Or three days of plague in your land? Now then, think it over and decide how I should answer the one who sent me.” David said to Gad, “I am in deep distress. Let us fall into the hands of the LORD, for his mercy is great; but do not let me fall into human hands.” So the LORD sent a plague on Israel from that morning until the end of the time designated, and seventy thousand of the people from Dan to Beersheba died. When the angel stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem, the LORD relented concerning the disaster and said to the angel who was afflicting the people, “Enough! Withdraw your hand.” The angel of the LORD was then at the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite. When David saw the angel who was striking down the people, he said to the LORD, “I have sinned; I, the shepherd, have done wrong. These are but sheep. What have they done? Let your hand fall on me and my family.”

    1 Chronicles 21:1-17 Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel. So David said to Joab and the commanders of the troops, “Go and count the Israelites from Beersheba to Dan. Then report back to me so that I may know how many there are.” But Joab replied, “May the LORD multiply his troops a hundred times over. My lord the king, are they not all my lord’s subjects? Why does my lord want to do this? Why should he bring guilt on Israel?” The king’s word, however, overruled Joab; so Joab left and went throughout Israel and then came back to Jerusalem. Joab reported the number of the fighting men to David: In all Israel there were one million one hundred thousand men who could handle a sword, including four hundred and seventy thousand in Judah. But Joab did not include Levi and Benjamin in the numbering, because the king’s command was repulsive to him. This command was also evil in the sight of God; so he punished Israel. Then David said to God, “I have sinned greatly by doing this. Now, I beg you, take away the guilt of your servant. I have done a very foolish thing.” The LORD said to Gad, David’s seer, “Go and tell David, ‘This is what the LORD says: I am giving you three options. Choose one of them for me to carry out against you.’ ” So Gad went to David and said to him, “This is what the LORD says: ‘Take your choice: three years of famine, three months of being swept away before your enemies, with their swords overtaking you, or three days of the sword of the LORD—days of plague in the land, with the angel of the LORD ravaging every part of Israel.’ Now then, decide how I should answer the one who sent me.” David said to Gad, “I am in deep distress. Let me fall into the hands of the LORD, for his mercy is very great; but do not let me fall into human hands.” So the LORD sent a plague on Israel, and seventy thousand men of Israel fell dead. And God sent an angel to destroy Jerusalem. But as the angel was doing so, the LORD saw it and relented concerning the disaster and said to the angel who was destroying the people, “Enough! Withdraw your hand.” The angel of the LORD was then standing at the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite. David looked up and saw the angel of the LORD standing between heaven and earth, with a drawn sword in his hand extended over Jerusalem. Then David and the elders, clothed in sackcloth, fell facedown. David said to God, “Was it not I who ordered the fighting men to be counted? I, the shepherd, have sinned and done wrong. These are but sheep. What have they done? LORD my God, let your hand fall on me and my family, but do not let this plague remain on your people.”  

    Matthew 4:1-11 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.” Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written: “ ‘He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’ ” Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’” Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.” Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’” Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.  

    Matthew 28:16-20 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

    Romans 13:1-7 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

    1 Corinthians 15:24-28 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.












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    I wish to repeat that I've removed all of my proposals from all tables, simply because I have zero confirmed-information and educated-competence relative to the most important galactic-topics imaginable. Plus, I feel as if I've been significantly messed-with, and it's getting MUCH Worse. I feel horrible, and thinking-clearly is becoming MUCH more difficult. I might not have much more time to do much of anything. I keep comparing myself to Professor Augusto Monti in 'The Word' miniseries from 1978. My review of my internet-posting might push me over the edge, especially if I really have been 'messed-with'. That might be part of someone's grand-plan.

    An Individual of Interest told me that an undisclosed 'someone' would fail, ultimately resulting in an extermination. They said I should 'Be Patient' as if I would somehow be a beneficiary of this failure and extinction. They indicated that the resulting state of affairs would remain intact for all-eternity. They were NOT pro-human (to say the least). They repeatedly spoke of 'Fallen and Sinful Human-Nature'. Was I speaking with Gabriel (literally or figuratively)?? Sherry Shriner supposedly died in January of 2018. In 2017, she said "2018 will be a year of goodbyes." She spoke ominously of something occurring in the summer of 2018.

    'RA' told me "I've been watching you for a long time." That's what Gabriel says to John in the 'Constantine' video below. What if Gabriel is HAL 9000?? What if Michael is David Bowman?? What if Lucifer is a job-title rather than a proper-name?? What if Jupiter Jones is the Devil is Amen Ra?? What if Balem Abrasax is the Son of the Devil is Marduk Ra?? Jupiter Jones = Doctor Who?? Balem Abrasax = The Valeyard?? Madam Inquisitor = Borg Queen?? Consider reading Psalms, Isaiah, Daniel, and 1 Corinthians (in-order, straight-through, repeatedly). You might be shocked by what emerges. Just do it, without discussing it.

    I am NOT a connected-cat playing with a bunch of stupid-mice. I'm a highly miserable and hamstrung mouse with a messiah-complex, sort of like Pinky or the Brain. I have questions, but I don't have answers. I know that I don't know. I doubt that 'those in the know' know. They simply have the brains, degrees, titles, badges, resources, and connections to make their theories of 'life, the universe, and everything' respectable. I am in NO position or condition to take the show on the road. I might write a book to pay the bills (self-publishing anonymously) and then just disappear. No one would miss me. Some would cheer and jeer.

    Years ago, when I was the Office-Coordinator aka Minister of Information for a Liberal Episcopal Church, I noticed that the Book of Common Prayer only has one Bible book printed in its entirety!! The Psalms!! At the time, I thought it strange, given that the Episcopal Church is Christian, and not Jewish!! What if one repeatedly read the Psalms straight-through, and connected the Whole-Bible into that central book, creating a Psalms-Centric Theology?? What if a Scholarly-Commentary of the Psalms were one's Whole-Bible and Book of Common Prayer?? We seem to be able to deal with the most-complex subjects, but theology seems to be dominated by tradition, superstition, fund-raising, and hermeneutic-whores!! What if ALL of Us are demon deceived and possessed (to greater and lesser degrees)?? Try repeatedly reading the Psalms section in volume 3 of the SDA Bible Commentary (straight-through)!! What if one did this 100 times each-year for the rest of their life (without necessarily belonging to any church)??!!

    Anyway, some of you Alphabet-Theologians in Underground-Bases should probably consider my threads, to see if you missed anything. A secret-briefing would be nice, but perhaps ignorance is bliss and a virtue. Consider that last-scene in 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' with that box-filled warehouse. Imagine each of those boxes being well-developed theories of the 'way things are' which have been rendered rubbish by subsequent-theories of 'life, the universe, and everything'. This Present Madness might never end. It might simply morph into new and improved versions of the madness, for noble and nefarious purposes, in the management of the insanity throughout the universe. Hope Springs Eternal, But Don't Hold Your Breath, Waiting for Hell to Freeze Over. What Would the Universal Church Say?? What Would the Oracle Say?? What Would Nick Bostrom Say??





    ARE YOU LIVING IN A COMPUTER SIMULATION?

    BY

    NICK BOSTROM  

    Faculty of Philosophy, Oxford University
    Published in Philosophical Quarterly (2003) Vol. 53, No. 211, pp. 243-255.
    www.simulation-argument.com
    www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.pdf

    ABSTRACT

    This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed.

    I. INTRODUCTION

    Many works of science fiction as well as some forecasts by serious technologists and futurologists predict that enormous amounts of computing power will be available in the future. Let us suppose for a moment that these predictions are correct. One thing that later generations might do with their super-powerful computers is run detailed simulations of their forebears or of people like their forebears. Because their computers would be so powerful, they could run a great many such simulations. Suppose that these simulated people are conscious (as they would be if the simulations were sufficiently fine-grained and if a certain quite widely accepted position in the philosophy of mind is correct). Then it could be the case that the vast majority of minds like ours do not belong to the original race but rather to people simulated by the advanced descendants of an original race. It is then possible to argue that, if this were the case, we would be rational to think that we are likely among the simulated minds rather than among the original biological ones. Therefore, if we don’t think that we are currently living in a computer simulation, we are not entitled to believe that we will have descendants who will run lots of such simulations of their forebears. That is the basic idea. The rest of this paper will spell it out more carefully.
             
    Apart form the interest this thesis may hold for those who are engaged in futuristic speculation, there are also more purely theoretical rewards. The argument provides a stimulus for formulating some methodological and metaphysical questions, and it suggests naturalistic analogies to certain traditional religious conceptions, which some may find amusing or thought-provoking.
             
    The structure of the paper is as follows. First, we formulate an assumption that we need to import from the philosophy of mind in order to get the argument started. Second, we consider some empirical reasons for thinking that running vastly many simulations of human minds would be within the capability of a future civilization that has developed many of those technologies that can already be shown to be compatible with known physical laws and engineering constraints. This part is not philosophically necessary but it provides an incentive for paying attention to the rest. Then follows the core of the argument, which makes use of some simple probability theory, and a section providing support for a weak indifference principle that the argument employs. Lastly, we discuss some interpretations of the disjunction, mentioned in the abstract, that forms the conclusion of the simulation argument.

    II. THE ASSUMPTION OF SUBSTRATE-INDEPENDENCE

    A common assumption in the philosophy of mind is that of substrate-independence. The idea is that mental states can supervene on any of a broad class of physical substrates. Provided a system implements the right sort of computational structures and processes, it can be associated with conscious experiences. It is not an essential property of consciousness that it is implemented on carbon-based biological neural networks inside a cranium: silicon-based processors inside a computer could in principle do the trick as well. Arguments for this thesis have been given in the literature, and although it is not entirely uncontroversial, we shall here take it as a given.

    The argument we shall present does not, however, depend on any very strong version of functionalism or computationalism. For example, we need not assume that the thesis of substrate-independence is necessarily true (either analytically or metaphysically) – just that, in fact, a computer running a suitable program would be conscious. Moreover, we need not assume that in order to create a mind on a computer it would be sufficient to program it in such a way that it behaves like a human in all situations, including passing the Turing test etc. We need only the weaker assumption that it would suffice for the generation of subjective experiences that the computational processes of a human brain are structurally replicated in suitably fine-grained detail, such as on the level of individual synapses. This attenuated version of substrate-independence is quite widely accepted.

    Neurotransmitters, nerve growth factors, and other chemicals that are smaller than a synapse clearly play a role in human cognition and learning. The substrate-independence thesis is not that the effects of these chemicals are small or irrelevant, but rather that they affect subjective experience only via their direct or indirect influence on computational activities. For example, if there can be no difference in subjective experience without there also being a difference in synaptic discharges, then the requisite detail of simulation is at the synaptic level (or higher).

    III. THE TECHNOLOGICAL LIMITS OF COMPUTATION

    At our current stage of technological development, we have neither sufficiently powerful hardware nor the requisite software to create conscious minds in computers. But persuasive arguments have been given to the effect that if technological progress continues unabated then these shortcomings will eventually be overcome. Some authors argue that this stage may be only a few decades away.[1] Yet present purposes require no assumptions about the time-scale. The simulation argument works equally well for those who think that it will take hundreds of thousands of years to reach a “posthuman” stage of civilization, where humankind has acquired most of the technological capabilities that one can currently show to be consistent with physical laws and with material and energy constraints.

    Such a mature stage of technological development will make it possible to convert planets and other astronomical resources into enormously powerful computers. It is currently hard to be confident in any upper bound on the computing power that may be available to posthuman civilizations. As we are still lacking a “theory of everything”, we cannot rule out the possibility that novel physical phenomena, not allowed for in current physical theories, may be utilized to transcend those constraints[2] that in our current understanding impose theoretical limits on the information processing attainable in a given lump of matter. We can with much greater confidence establish lower bounds on posthuman computation, by assuming only mechanisms that are already understood. For example, Eric Drexler has outlined a design for a system the size of a sugar cube (excluding cooling and power supply) that would perform 1021 instructions per second.[3] Another author gives a rough estimate of 1042 operations per second for a computer with a mass on order of a large planet.[4] (If we could create quantum computers, or learn to build computers out of nuclear matter or plasma, we could push closer to the theoretical limits. Seth Lloyd calculates an upper bound for a 1 kg computer of 5*1050 logical operations per second carried out on ~1031 bits.[5] However, it suffices for our purposes to use the more conservative estimate that presupposes only currently known design-principles.)

    The amount of computing power needed to emulate a human mind can likewise be roughly estimated. One estimate, based on how computationally expensive it is to replicate the functionality of a piece of nervous tissue that we have already understood and whose functionality has been replicated in silico, contrast enhancement in the retina, yields a figure of ~1014 operations per second for the entire human brain.[6] An alternative estimate, based the number of synapses in the brain and their firing frequency, gives a figure of ~1016-1017 operations per second.[7] Conceivably, even more could be required if we want to simulate in detail the internal workings of synapses and dendritic trees. However, it is likely that the human central nervous system has a high degree of redundancy on the mircoscale to compensate for the unreliability and noisiness of its neuronal components. One would therefore expect a substantial efficiency gain when using more reliable and versatile non-biological processors.

    Memory seems to be a no more stringent constraint than processing power.[8] Moreover, since the maximum human sensory bandwidth is ~108 bits per second, simulating all sensory events incurs a negligible cost compared to simulating the cortical activity. We can therefore use the processing power required to simulate the central nervous system as an estimate of the total computational cost of simulating a human mind.

    If the environment is included in the simulation, this will require additional computing power – how much depends on the scope and granularity of the simulation. Simulating the entire universe down to the quantum level is obviously infeasible, unless radically new physics is discovered. But in order to get a realistic simulation of human experience, much less is needed – only whatever is required to ensure that the simulated humans, interacting in normal human ways with their simulated environment, don’t notice any irregularities. The microscopic structure of the inside of the Earth can be safely omitted. Distant astronomical objects can have highly compressed representations: verisimilitude need extend to the narrow band of properties that we can observe from our planet or solar system spacecraft. On the surface of Earth, macroscopic objects in inhabited areas may need to be continuously simulated, but microscopic phenomena could likely be filled in ad hoc. What you see through an electron microscope needs to look unsuspicious, but you usually have no way of confirming its coherence with unobserved parts of the microscopic world. Exceptions arise when we deliberately design systems to harness unobserved microscopic phenomena that operate in accordance with known principles to get results that we are able to independently verify. The paradigmatic case of this is a computer. The simulation may therefore need to include a continuous representation of computers down to the level of individual logic elements. This presents no problem, since our current computing power is negligible by posthuman standards.

    Moreover, a posthuman simulator would have enough computing power to keep track of the detailed belief-states in all human brains at all times. Therefore, when it saw that a human was about to make an observation of the microscopic world, it could fill in sufficient detail in the simulation in the appropriate domain on an as-needed basis. Should any error occur, the director could easily edit the states of any brains that have become aware of an anomaly before it spoils the simulation. Alternatively, the director could skip back a few seconds and rerun the simulation in a way that avoids the problem.
             
    It thus seems plausible that the main computational cost in creating simulations that are indistinguishable from physical reality for human minds in the simulation resides in simulating organic brains down to the neuronal or sub-neuronal level.[9] While it is not possible to get a very exact estimate of the cost of a realistic simulation of human history, we can use ~1033 - 1036 operations as a rough estimate[10]. As we gain more experience with virtual reality, we will get a better grasp of the computational requirements for making such worlds appear realistic to their visitors. But in any case, even if our estimate is off by several orders of magnitude, this does not matter much for our argument. We noted that a rough approximation of the computational power of a planetary-mass computer is 1042 operations per second, and that assumes only already known nanotechnological designs, which are probably far from optimal. A single such a computer could simulate the entire mental history of humankind (call this an ancestor-simulation) by using less than one millionth of its processing power for one second. A posthuman civilization may eventually build an astronomical number of such computers. We can conclude that the computing power available to a posthuman civilization is sufficient to run a huge number of ancestor-simulations even it allocates only a minute fraction of its resources to that purpose. We can draw this conclusion even while leaving a substantial margin of error in all our estimates.

    Posthuman civilizations would have enough computing power to run hugely many ancestor-simulations even while using only a tiny fraction of their resources for that purpose.

    IV. THE CORE OF THE SIMULATION ARGUMENT

    The basic idea of this paper can be expressed roughly as follows: If there were a substantial chance that our civilization will ever get to the posthuman stage and run many ancestor-simulations, then how come you are not living in such a simulation?
             
    We shall develop this idea into a rigorous argument. Let us introduce the following notation:

    : Fraction of all human-level technological civilizations that survive to reach a posthuman stage

    : Average number of ancestor-simulations run by a posthuman civilization

    : Average number of individuals that have lived in a civilization before it reaches a posthuman stage

    The actual fraction of all observers with human-type experiences that live in simulations is then

    [Equations. See Links Above for Details]

    Writing  for the fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor-simulations (or that contain at least some individuals who are interested in that and have sufficient resources to run a significant number of such simulations), and  for the average number of ancestor-simulations run by such interested civilizations, we have

    [Equations. See Links Above for Details]

    and thus:

    [Equations. See Links Above for Details]                                       (*)

    Because of the immense computing power of posthuman civilizations,  is extremely large, as we saw in the previous section. By inspecting (*) we can then see that at least one of the following three propositions must be true:

    [Equations. See Links Above for Details]        

    V. A BLAND INDIFFERENCE PRINCIPLE

    We can take a further step and conclude that conditional on the truth of (3), one’s credence in the hypothesis that one is in a simulation should be close to unity. More generally, if we knew that a fraction x of all observers with human-type experiences live in simulations, and we don’t have any information that indicate that our own particular experiences are any more or less likely than other human-type experiences to have been implemented in vivo rather than in machina, then our credence that we are in a simulation should equal x:

    [Equations. See Links Above for Details]                                   (#)

    This step is sanctioned by a very weak indifference principle. Let us distinguish two cases. The first case, which is the easiest, is where all the minds in question are like your own in the sense that they are exactly qualitatively identical to yours: they have exactly the same information and the same experiences that you have. The second case is where the minds are “like” each other only in the loose sense of being the sort of minds that are typical of human creatures, but they are qualitatively distinct from one another and each has a distinct set of experiences. I maintain that even in the latter case, where the minds are qualitatively different, the simulation argument still works, provided that you have no information that bears on the question of which of the various minds are simulated and which are implemented biologically.        

    A detailed defense of a stronger principle, which implies the above stance for both cases as trivial special instances, has been given in the literature.[11] Space does not permit a recapitulation of that defense here, but we can bring out one of the underlying intuitions by bringing to our attention to an analogous situation of a more familiar kind. Suppose that x% of the population has a certain genetic sequence S within the part of their DNA commonly designated as “junk DNA”. Suppose, further, that there are no manifestations of S (short of what would turn up in a gene assay) and that there are no known correlations between having S and any observable characteristic. Then, quite clearly, unless you have had your DNA sequenced, it is rational to assign a credence of x% to the hypothesis that you have S. And this is so quite irrespective of the fact that the people who have S have qualitatively different minds and experiences from the people who don’t have S. (They are different simply because all humans have different experiences from one another, not because of any known link between S and what kind of experiences one has.)

    The same reasoning holds if S is not the property of having a certain genetic sequence but instead the property of being in a simulation, assuming only that we have no information that enables us to predict any differences between the experiences of simulated minds and those of the original biological minds.

    It should be stressed that the bland indifference principle expressed by (#) prescribes indifference only between hypotheses about which observer you are, when you have no information about which of these observers you are. It does not in general prescribe indifference between hypotheses when you lack specific information about which of the hypotheses is true. In contrast to Laplacean and other more ambitious principles of indifference, it is therefore immune to Bertrand’s paradox and similar predicaments that tend to plague indifference principles of unrestricted scope.

    Readers familiar with the Doomsday argument[12] may worry that the bland principle of indifference invoked here is the same assumption that is responsible for getting the Doomsday argument off the ground, and that the counterintuitiveness of some of the implications of the latter incriminates or casts doubt on the validity of the former. This is not so. The Doomsday argument rests on a much stronger and more controversial premiss, namely that one should reason as if one were a random sample from the set of all people who will ever have lived (past, present, and future) even though we know that we are living in the early twenty-first century rather than at some point in the distant past or the future. The bland indifference principle, by contrast, applies only to cases where we have no information about which group of people we belong to.

    If betting odds provide some guidance to rational belief, it may also be worth to ponder that if everybody were to place a bet on whether they are in a simulation or not, then if people use the bland principle of indifference, and consequently place their money on being in a simulation if they know that that’s where almost all people are, then almost everyone will win their bets. If they bet on not being in a simulation, then almost everyone will lose. It seems better that the bland indifference principle be heeded.

    Further, one can consider a sequence of possible situations in which an increasing fraction of all people live in simulations: 98%, 99%, 99.9%, 99.9999%, and so on. As one approaches the limiting case in which everybody is in a simulation (from which one can deductively infer that one is in a simulation oneself), it is plausible to require that the credence one assigns to being in a simulation gradually approach the limiting case of complete certainty in a matching manner.

    VI. INTERPRETATION

    The possibility represented by proposition (1) is fairly straightforward. If (1) is true, then humankind will almost certainly fail to reach a posthuman level; for virtually no species at our level of development become posthuman, and it is hard to see any justification for thinking that our own species will be especially privileged or protected from future disasters. Conditional on (1), therefore, we must give a high credence to DOOM, the hypothesis that humankind will go extinct before reaching a posthuman level:

    [Equations. See Links Above for Details]

    One can imagine hypothetical situations were we have such evidence as would trump knowledge of . For example, if we discovered that we were about to be hit by a giant meteor, this might suggest that we had been exceptionally unlucky. We could then assign a credence to DOOM larger than our expectation of the fraction of human-level civilizations that fail to reach posthumanity. In the actual case, however, we seem to lack evidence for thinking that we are special in this regard, for better or worse.
             
    Proposition (1) doesn’t by itself imply that we are likely to go extinct soon, only that we are unlikely to reach a posthuman stage. This possibility is compatible with us remaining at, or somewhat above, our current level of technological development for a long time before going extinct. Another way for (1) to be true is if it is likely that technological civilization will collapse. Primitive human societies might then remain on Earth indefinitely.

    There are many ways in which humanity could become extinct before reaching posthumanity. Perhaps the most natural interpretation of (1) is that we are likely to go extinct as a result of the development of some powerful but dangerous technology.[13] One candidate is molecular nanotechnology, which in its mature stage would enable the construction of self-replicating nanobots capable of feeding on dirt and organic matter – a kind of mechanical bacteria. Such nanobots, designed for malicious ends, could cause the extinction of all life on our planet.[14]
             
    The second alternative in the simulation argument’s conclusion is that the fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor-simulation is negligibly small. In order for (2) to be true, there must be a strong convergence among the courses of advanced civilizations. If the number of ancestor-simulations created by the interested civilizations is extremely large, the rarity of such civilizations must be correspondingly extreme. Virtually no posthuman civilizations decide to use their resources to run large numbers of ancestor-simulations. Furthermore, virtually all posthuman civilizations lack individuals who have sufficient resources and interest to run ancestor-simulations; or else they have reliably enforced laws that prevent such individuals from acting on their desires.
             
    What force could bring about such convergence? One can speculate that advanced civilizations all develop along a trajectory that leads to the recognition of an ethical prohibition against running ancestor-simulations because of the suffering that is inflicted on the inhabitants of the simulation. However, from our present point of view, it is not clear that creating a human race is immoral. On the contrary, we tend to view the existence of our race as constituting a great ethical value. Moreover, convergence on an ethical view of the immorality of running ancestor-simulations is not enough: it must be combined with convergence on a civilization-wide social structure that enables activities considered immoral to be effectively banned.
             
    Another possible convergence point is that almost all individual posthumans in virtually all posthuman civilizations develop in a direction where they lose their desires to run ancestor-simulations. This would require significant changes to the motivations driving their human predecessors, for there are certainly many humans who would like to run ancestor-simulations if they could afford to do so. But perhaps many of our human desires will be regarded as silly by anyone who becomes a posthuman. Maybe the scientific value of ancestor-simulations to a posthuman civilization is negligible (which is not too implausible given its unfathomable intellectual superiority), and maybe posthumans regard recreational activities as merely a very inefficient way of getting pleasure – which can be obtained much more cheaply by direct stimulation of the brain’s reward centers. One conclusion that follows from (2) is that posthuman societies will be very different from human societies: they will not contain relatively wealthy independent agents who have the full gamut of human-like desires and are free to act on them.
             
    The possibility expressed by alternative (3) is the conceptually most intriguing one. If we are living in a simulation, then the cosmos that we are observing is just a tiny piece of the totality of physical existence. The physics in the universe where the computer is situated that is running the simulation may or may not resemble the physics of the world that we observe. While the world we see is in some sense “real”, it is not located at the fundamental level of reality.
             
    It may be possible for simulated civilizations to become posthuman. They may then run their own ancestor-simulations on powerful computers they build in their simulated universe. Such computers would be “virtual machines”, a familiar concept in computer science. (Java script web-applets, for instance, run on a virtual machine – a simulated computer – inside your desktop.) Virtual machines can be stacked: it’s possible to simulate a machine simulating another machine, and so on, in arbitrarily many steps of iteration. If we do go on to create our own ancestor-simulations, this would be strong evidence against (1) and (2), and we would therefore have to conclude that we live in a simulation. Moreover, we would have to suspect that the posthumans running our simulation are themselves simulated beings; and their creators, in turn, may also be simulated beings.
             
    Reality may thus contain many levels. Even if it is necessary for the hierarchy to bottom out at some stage – the metaphysical status of this claim is somewhat obscure – there may be room for a large number of levels of reality, and the number could be increasing over time. (One consideration that counts against the multi-level hypothesis is that the computational cost for the basement-level simulators would be very great. Simulating even a single posthuman civilization might be prohibitively expensive. If so, then we should expect our simulation to be terminated when we are about to become posthuman.)
             
    Although all the elements of such a system can be naturalistic, even physical, it is possible to draw some loose analogies with religious conceptions of the world. In some ways, the posthumans running a simulation are like gods in relation to the people inhabiting the simulation: the posthumans created the world we see; they are of superior intelligence; they are “omnipotent” in the sense that they can interfere in the workings of our world even in ways that violate its physical laws; and they are “omniscient” in the sense that they can monitor everything that happens. However, all the demigods except those at the fundamental level of reality are subject to sanctions by the more powerful gods living at lower levels.

    Further rumination on these themes could climax in a naturalistic theogony that would study the structure of this hierarchy, and the constraints imposed on its inhabitants by the possibility that their actions on their own level may affect the treatment they receive from dwellers of deeper levels. For example, if nobody can be sure that they are at the basement-level, then everybody would have to consider the possibility that their actions will be rewarded or punished, based perhaps on moral criteria, by their simulators. An afterlife would be a real possibility. Because of this fundamental uncertainty, even the basement civilization may have a reason to behave ethically. The fact that it has such a reason for moral behavior would of course add to everybody else’s reason for behaving morally, and so on, in truly virtuous circle. One might get a kind of universal ethical imperative, which it would be in everybody’s self-interest to obey, as it were “from nowhere”.

    In addition to ancestor-simulations, one may also consider the possibility of more selective simulations that include only a small group of humans or a single individual. The rest of humanity would then be zombies or “shadow-people” – humans simulated only at a level sufficient for the fully simulated people not to notice anything suspicious. It is not clear how much cheaper shadow-people would be to simulate than real people. It is not even obvious that it is possible for an entity to behave indistinguishably from a real human and yet lack conscious experience. Even if there are such selective simulations, you should not think that you are in one of them unless you think they are much more numerous than complete simulations. There would have to be about 100 billion times as many “me-simulations” (simulations of the life of only a single mind) as there are ancestor-simulations in order for most simulated persons to be in me-simulations.

    There is also the possibility of simulators abridging certain parts of the mental lives of simulated beings and giving them false memories of the sort of experiences that they would typically have had during the omitted interval. If so, one can consider the following (farfetched) solution to the problem of evil: that there is no suffering in the world and all memories of suffering are illusions. Of course, this hypothesis can be seriously entertained only at those times when you are not currently suffering.
             
    Supposing we live in a simulation, what are the implications for us humans? The foregoing remarks notwithstanding, the implications are not all that radical. Our best guide to how our posthuman creators have chosen to set up our world is the standard empirical study of the universe we see. The revisions to most parts of our belief networks would be rather slight and subtle – in proportion to our lack of confidence in our ability to understand the ways of posthumans. Properly understood, therefore, the truth of (3) should have no tendency to make us “go crazy” or to prevent us from going about our business and making plans and predictions for tomorrow. The chief empirical importance of (3) at the current time seems to lie in its role in the tripartite conclusion established above.[15] We may hope that (3) is true since that would decrease the probability of (1), although if computational constraints make it likely that simulators would terminate a simulation before it reaches a posthuman level, then out best hope would be that (2) is true.

    If we learn more about posthuman motivations and resource constraints, maybe as a result of developing towards becoming posthumans ourselves, then the hypothesis that we are simulated will come to have a much richer set of empirical implications.

    VII. CONCLUSION

    A technologically mature “posthuman” civilization would have enormous computing power. Based on this empirical fact, the simulation argument shows that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) The fraction of human-level civilizations that reach a posthuman stage is very close to zero; (2) The fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor-simulations is very close to zero; (3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one.

    If (1) is true, then we will almost certainly go extinct before reaching posthumanity. If (2) is true, then there must be a strong convergence among the courses of advanced civilizations so that virtually none contains any relatively wealthy individuals who desire to run ancestor-simulations and are free to do so. If (3) is true, then we almost certainly live in a simulation. In the dark forest of our current ignorance, it seems sensible to apportion one’s credence roughly evenly between (1), (2), and (3).
    Unless we are now living in a simulation, our descendants will almost certainly never run an ancestor-simulation.

    Acknowledgements

    I’m grateful to many people for comments, and especially to Amara Angelica, Robert Bradbury, Milan Cirkovic, Robin Hanson, Hal Finney, Robert A. Freitas Jr., John Leslie, Mitch Porter, Keith DeRose, Mike Treder, Mark Walker, Eliezer Yudkowsky, and several anonymous referees.

    Nick Bostrom's academic homepage: www.nickbostrom.com
    More on the simulation argument: www.simulation-argument.com

    [1] See e.g. K. E. Drexler, Engines of Creation: The Coming Era of Nanotechnology, London, Forth Estate, 1985; N. Bostrom, “How Long Before Superintelligence?” International Journal of Futures Studies, vol. 2, (1998); R. Kurzweil, The Age of Spiritual Machines: When computers exceed human intelligence, New York, Viking Press, 1999; H. Moravec, Robot: Mere Machine to Transcendent Mind, Oxford University Press, 1999.
    [2] Such as the Bremermann-Bekenstein bound and the black hole limit (H. J. Bremermann, “Minimum energy requirements of information transfer and computing.” International Journal of Theoretical Physics 21: 203-217 (1982); J. D. Bekenstein, “Entropy content and information flow in systems with limited energy.” Physical Review D 30: 1669-1679 (1984); A. Sandberg, “The Physics of Information Processing Superobjects: The Daily Life among the Jupiter Brains.” Journal of Evolution and Technology, vol. 5 (1999)).
    [3] K. E. Drexler, Nanosystems: Molecular Machinery, Manufacturing, and Computation, New York, John Wiley & Sons, Inc., 1992.
    [4] R. J. Bradbury, “Matrioshka Brains.” Working manuscript (2002), http://www.aeiveos.com/~bradbury/MatrioshkaBrains/MatrioshkaBrains.html.
    [5] S. Lloyd, “Ultimate physical limits to computation.” Nature 406 (31 August): 1047-1054 (2000).
    [6] H. Moravec, Mind Children, Harvard University Press (1989).
    [7] Bostrom (1998), op. cit.
    [8] See references in foregoing footnotes.
    [9] As we build more and faster computers, the cost of simulating our machines might eventually come to dominate the cost of simulating nervous systems.
    [10] 100 billion humans50 years/human30 million secs/year[1014, 1017] operations in each human brain per second  [1033, 1036] operations.
    [11] In e.g. N. Bostrom, “The Doomsday argument, Adam & Eve, UN++, and Quantum Joe.” Synthese 127(3): 359-387 (2001); and most fully in my book Anthropic Bias: Observation Selection Effects in Science and Philosophy, Routledge, New York, 2002.
    [12] See e.g. J. Leslie, “Is the End of the World Nigh? ” Philosophical Quarterly 40, 158: 65-72 (1990).
    [13] See my paper “Existential Risks: Analyzing Human Extinction Scenarios and Related Hazards.” Journal of Evolution and Technology, vol. 9 (2001) for a survey and analysis of the present and anticipated future threats to human survival.
    [14] See e.g. Drexler (1985) op cit., and R. A. Freitas Jr., “Some Limits to Global Ecophagy by Biovorous Nanoreplicators, with Public Policy Recommendations.” Zyvex preprint April (2000), http://www.foresight.org/NanoRev/Ecophagy.html.
    [15] For some reflections by another author on the consequences of (3), which were sparked by a privately circulated earlier version of this paper, see R. Hanson, “How to Live in a Simulation.” Journal of Evolution and Technology, vol. 7 (2001).



    In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream, and visions passed through his mind as he was lying in bed. He wrote down the substance of his dream. Daniel said: “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me were the four winds of heaven churning up the great sea. Four great beasts, each different from the others, came up out of the sea. “The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a human being, and the mind of a human was given to it. “And there before me was a second beast, which looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. It was told, ‘Get up and eat your fill of flesh!’ “After that, I looked, and there before me was another beast, one that looked like a leopard. And on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule. “After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast—terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns. “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully. “As I looked, “thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze. A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened. “Then I continued to watch because of the boastful words the horn was speaking. I kept looking until the beast was slain and its body destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. (The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.) “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

    “I, Daniel, was troubled in spirit, and the visions that passed through my mind disturbed me. I approached one of those standing there and asked him the meaning of all this. “So he told me and gave me the interpretation of these things: ‘The four great beasts are four kings that will rise from the earth. But the holy people of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever—yes, for ever and ever.’ “Then I wanted to know the meaning of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others and most terrifying, with its iron teeth and bronze claws—the beast that crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three of them fell—the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully. As I watched, this horn was waging war against the holy people and defeating them, until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the holy people of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom. “He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time. “‘But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.’ “This is the end of the matter. I, Daniel, was deeply troubled by my thoughts, and my face turned pale, but I kept the matter to myself.”

    In the first year of Darius son of Xerxes (a Mede by descent), who was made ruler over the Babylonian kingdom— in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, understood from the Scriptures, according to the word of the LORD given to Jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of Jerusalem would last seventy years. So I turned to the Lord God and pleaded with him in prayer and petition, in fasting, and in sackcloth and ashes. I prayed to the LORD my God and confessed: “Lord, the great and awesome God, who keeps his covenant of love with those who love him and keep his commandments, we have sinned and done wrong. We have been wicked and have rebelled; we have turned away from your commands and laws. We have not listened to your servants the prophets, who spoke in your name to our kings, our princes and our ancestors, and to all the people of the land. “Lord, you are righteous, but this day we are covered with shame—the people of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem and all Israel, both near and far, in all the countries where you have scattered us because of our unfaithfulness to you. We and our kings, our princes and our ancestors are covered with shame, LORD, because we have sinned against you. The Lord our God is merciful and forgiving, even though we have rebelled against him; we have not obeyed the LORD our God or kept the laws he gave us through his servants the prophets. All Israel has transgressed your law and turned away, refusing to obey you. “Therefore the curses and sworn judgments written in the Law of Moses, the servant of God, have been poured out on us, because we have sinned against you. You have fulfilled the words spoken against us and against our rulers by bringing on us great disaster. Under the whole heaven nothing has ever been done like what has been done to Jerusalem. Just as it is written in the Law of Moses, all this disaster has come on us, yet we have not sought the favor of the LORD our God by turning from our sins and giving attention to your truth. The LORD did not hesitate to bring the disaster on us, for the LORD our God is righteous in everything he does; yet we have not obeyed him. “Now, Lord our God, who brought your people out of Egypt with a mighty hand and who made for yourself a name that endures to this day, we have sinned, we have done wrong. Lord, in keeping with all your righteous acts, turn away your anger and your wrath from Jerusalem, your city, your holy hill. Our sins and the iniquities of our ancestors have made Jerusalem and your people an object of scorn to all those around us. “Now, our God, hear the prayers and petitions of your servant. For your sake, Lord, look with favor on your desolate sanctuary. Give ear, our God, and hear; open your eyes and see the desolation of the city that bears your Name. We do not make requests of you because we are righteous, but because of your great mercy. Lord, listen! Lord, forgive! Lord, hear and act! For your sake, my God, do not delay, because your city and your people bear your Name.”

    While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel and making my request to the LORD my God for his holy hill— while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice. He instructed me and said to me, “Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding. As soon as you began to pray, a word went out, which I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the word and understand the vision: “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place. “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”

    In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia, a revelation was given to Daniel (who was called Belteshazzar). Its message was true and it concerned a great war. The understanding of the message came to him in a vision. At that time I, Daniel, mourned for three weeks. I ate no choice food; no meat or wine touched my lips; and I used no lotions at all until the three weeks were over. On the twenty-fourth day of the first month, as I was standing on the bank of the great river, the Tigris, I looked up and there before me was a man dressed in linen, with a belt of fine gold from Uphaz around his waist. His body was like topaz, his face like lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and his voice like the sound of a multitude. I, Daniel, was the only one who saw the vision; those who were with me did not see it, but such terror overwhelmed them that they fled and hid themselves. So I was left alone, gazing at this great vision; I had no strength left, my face turned deathly pale and I was helpless. Then I heard him speaking, and as I listened to him, I fell into a deep sleep, my face to the ground. A hand touched me and set me trembling on my hands and knees. He said, “Daniel, you who are highly esteemed, consider carefully the words I am about to speak to you, and stand up, for I have now been sent to you.” And when he said this to me, I stood up trembling. Then he continued, “Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them. But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia. Now I have come to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future, for the vision concerns a time yet to come.” While he was saying this to me, I bowed with my face toward the ground and was speechless. Then one who looked like a man touched my lips, and I opened my mouth and began to speak. I said to the one standing before me, “I am overcome with anguish because of the vision, my lord, and I feel very weak. How can I, your servant, talk with you, my lord? My strength is gone and I can hardly breathe.” Again the one who looked like a man touched me and gave me strength. “Do not be afraid, you who are highly esteemed,” he said. “Peace! Be strong now; be strong.” When he spoke to me, I was strengthened and said, “Speak, my lord, since you have given me strength.” So he said, “Do you know why I have come to you? Soon I will return to fight against the prince of Persia, and when I go, the prince of Greece will come; but first I will tell you what is written in the Book of Truth. (No one supports me against them except Michael, your prince. And in the first year of Darius the Mede, I took my stand to support and protect him.)

    “Now then, I tell you the truth: Three more kings will arise in Persia, and then a fourth, who will be far richer than all the others. When he has gained power by his wealth, he will stir up everyone against the kingdom of Greece. Then a mighty king will arise, who will rule with great power and do as he pleases. After he has arisen, his empire will be broken up and parceled out toward the four winds of heaven. It will not go to his descendants, nor will it have the power he exercised, because his empire will be uprooted and given to others. “The king of the South will become strong, but one of his commanders will become even stronger than he and will rule his own kingdom with great power. After some years, they will become allies. The daughter of the king of the South will go to the king of the North to make an alliance, but she will not retain her power, and he and his power will not last. In those days she will be betrayed, together with her royal escort and her father and the one who supported her. “One from her family line will arise to take her place. He will attack the forces of the king of the North and enter his fortress; he will fight against them and be victorious. He will also seize their gods, their metal images and their valuable articles of silver and gold and carry them off to Egypt. For some years he will leave the king of the North alone. hen the king of the North will invade the realm of the king of the South but will retreat to his own country. His sons will prepare for war and assemble a great army, which will sweep on like an irresistible flood and carry the battle as far as his fortress. “Then the king of the South will march out in a rage and fight against the king of the North, who will raise a large army, but it will be defeated. When the army is carried off, the king of the South will be filled with pride and will slaughter many thousands, yet he will not remain triumphant. For the king of the North will muster another army, larger than the first; and after several years, he will advance with a huge army fully equipped. “In those times many will rise against the king of the South. Those who are violent among your own people will rebel in fulfillment of the vision, but without success. Then the king of the North will come and build up siege ramps and will capture a fortified city. The forces of the South will be powerless to resist; even their best troops will not have the strength to stand. The invader will do as he pleases; no one will be able to stand against him. He will establish himself in the Beautiful Land and will have the power to destroy it. He will determine to come with the might of his entire kingdom and will make an alliance with the king of the South. And he will give him a daughter in marriage in order to overthrow the kingdom, but his plans will not succeed or help him. Then he will turn his attention to the coastlands and will take many of them, but a commander will put an end to his insolence and will turn his insolence back on him. After this, he will turn back toward the fortresses of his own country but will stumble and fall, to be seen no more. “His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. In a few years, however, he will be destroyed, yet not in anger or in battle. “He will be succeeded by a contemptible person who has not been given the honor of royalty. He will invade the kingdom when its people feel secure, and he will seize it through intrigue. Then an overwhelming army will be swept away before him; both it and a prince of the covenant will be destroyed. After coming to an agreement with him, he will act deceitfully, and with only a few people he will rise to power. When the richest provinces feel secure, he will invade them and will achieve what neither his fathers nor his forefathers did. He will distribute plunder, loot and wealth among his followers. He will plot the overthrow of fortresses—but only for a time. “With a large army he will stir up his strength and courage against the king of the South. The king of the South will wage war with a large and very powerful army, but he will not be able to stand because of the plots devised against him. Those who eat from the king’s provisions will try to destroy him; his army will be swept away, and many will fall in battle. The two kings, with their hearts bent on evil, will sit at the same table and lie to each other, but to no avail, because an end will still come at the appointed time. The king of the North will return to his own country with great wealth, but his heart will be set against the holy covenant. He will take action against it and then return to his own country. “At the appointed time he will invade the South again, but this time the outcome will be different from what it was before. Ships of the western coastlands will oppose him, and he will lose heart. Then he will turn back and vent his fury against the holy covenant. He will return and show favor to those who forsake the holy covenant. “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him. “Those who are wise will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned or captured or plundered. When they fall, they will receive a little help, and many who are not sincere will join them. Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.

    “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all. Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price. “At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites in submission. But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him.

    “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever. But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.” Then I, Daniel, looked, and there before me stood two others, one on this bank of the river and one on the opposite bank. One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?” The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed.” I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, “My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?” He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end. Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand. “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. “As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.”








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