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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:37 pm

    6/2/2018
    This is depressing look at nuclear war 2018 and it consequences to the world. it's well done and not politically based.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80pPcCN0-g
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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:38 pm

    6/13/2018
    Trump went into the G7 summit with the request (demands) that Russia be re-admitted into that group.  Russia was kicked out of the G8 when they invaded Crimea and thus it became the G7. In this video we have a professional that Trump's policies could lead to an economic depression.  When economies are bad, countries are more like to go to war because it helps improve the economy.
    Watch and you decide.


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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:44 pm

    6/23/2018
    From CNBC
    Increased threat of a trade war is ramping up fears of a 'full-blown recession'
    Some economists worry that the escalation of trade tensions could tip the U.S. economy into recession.
    A pullback would come just as GDP appears set to pull out of its post-financial crisis malaise, with the Federal Reserve projecting growth of 2.8 percent this year.
    Looking at the current data, it would take a heavy shock to send the U.S. into recession, as consumer and business confidence is near record highs and the unemployment rate is at a generational low.

    Earlier CNBC reported that.
    China has already been lining up other nations that will help back them in the forth coming trade war. Most of those are from Europe.

    Needless to say is that this trade war will be world wide. To think that we will not be economically affected would be stupid. Will this lead to war? It's one of the the ways wars start.
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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:50 pm

    7/23/2018



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    This was aired a few days ago but I think by watching former Secretary Albright, you can better understand the above video.
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    Post  bobhardee on Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:58 am

    7/26/2018
    Nationalism vs. Patriotism.
    There are many things that concern me about our current administration but many if not most of the Trump supporters, are Nationalist, who think of themselves as patriots.The Difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility while the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to a war. In many circles, Nationalism is fed by racism. In the last two years, we have seen white nationalist boldly attack people of color. The nationalist agenda is advanced through fear. Our current Administration has repeatedly voiced stories of rape and murder that results from those illegally crossing our southern border. Most of those coming are simply trying to seek a new life for their family.  When the message is one of hate and based on falsehoods, those that don't know better are drawn believing many bizarre things.  I personally do not believe that Trump was elected so that he could route out all cabal.  It seems to me that the evidence is clear that Russia, using the ploy of Nationalism to many who didn't know better, tainted the election in favor of Trump.  
    If Trump were here to save the world, why is he so bent on destroying the environment?
    If Trump is here to reach out to the middle class and poor, why is he bent on cutting Medicare and SSI and opposed to a living wage?
    If Trump is not bending over backwards to start a war, why is it that he threatened so many other nations?
    If Trump is here to bring economic stability to the USA, why impose economic sanctions on our allies and others?
    If Trump cared about any sort of patriotic duty, why didn't he serve his country in his youth?

    I want to believe but his lies, his bullying, his arrogance, his actions towards the press (fake news), his open history of covering up affairs, and long standing history of running his business into bankruptcy, and on an on: however, I find that I cannot and will not.  And the closer we come to cornering this charlaton, the more likely he will start a war to keep the public image off of him.


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    Post  bobhardee on Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:26 pm

    8/28/2018
    Check out these man made islands China has created in the South China Sea.  Unbelievable.

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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:54 am

    8/31/2018
    The three primary American industries that wanted Trump to win the election were the oil/gas industries, the military industrial complex, and big pharma.  Day after day, we have seen a steady assault on the environment, all sorts of trade wars,  and an increase in the cost of medications. Trump's  distain for environmental protections and for health care is unforgivable. However, if he unleashes a war to keep the country's attention away from the Mueller investigation, it is nothing short of treason and murder.  Putin is happier with Trump because he knows something that Trump is not revealing. The leadership in Russia and China are opportunistic countries that see how weak a President we have. This video shows the largest military operation that is a joint Russia China training that has happened in the past in 35 years.  Let that sink in.  35 years. Trump has done everything possible to repay oil/gas and big pharma for their election support. Let's hope it not time that he repays the military industrial complex.

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    Post  Vidya Moksha on Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:12 am

    There is no path to war, war is the path

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    Year-by-year Timeline of America’s Major Wars (1776-2015)
    1776 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamagua Wars, Second Cherokee War, Pennamite-Yankee War
    1777 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Second Cherokee War, Pennamite-Yankee War
    1778 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
    1779 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
    1780 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
    1781 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
    1782 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
    1783 – American Revolutionary War, Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War
    1784 – Chickamauga Wars, Pennamite-Yankee War, Oconee War
    1785 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1786 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1787 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1788 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1789 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1790 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1791 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1792 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1793 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1794 – Chickamauga Wars, Northwest Indian War
    1795 – Northwest Indian War
    1796 – No major war
    1797 – No major war
    1798 – Quasi-War
    1799 – Quasi-War
    1800 – Quasi-War
    1801 – First Barbary War
    1802 – First Barbary War
    1803 – First Barbary War
    1804 – First Barbary War
    1805 – First Barbary War
    1806 – Sabine Expedition
    1807 – No major war
    1808 – No major war
    1809 – No major war
    1810 – U.S. occupies Spanish-held West Florida
    1811 – Tecumseh’s War
    1812 – War of 1812, Tecumseh’s War, Seminole Wars, U.S. occupies Spanish-held Amelia Island and other parts of East Florida
    1813 – War of 1812, Tecumseh’s War, Peoria War, Creek War, U.S. expands its territory in West Florida
    1814 – War of 1812, Creek War, U.S. expands its territory in Florida, Anti-piracy war
    1815 – War of 1812, Second Barbary War, Anti-piracy war
    1816 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war
    1817 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war
    1818 – First Seminole War, Anti-piracy war
    1819 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war
    1820 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war
    1821 – Anti-piracy war (see note above)
    1822 – Anti-piracy war (see note above)
    1823 – Anti-piracy war, Arikara War
    1824 – Anti-piracy war
    1825 – Yellowstone Expedition, Anti-piracy war
    1826 – No major war
    1827 – Winnebago War
    1828 – No major war
    1829 – No major war
    1830 – No major war
    1831 – Sac and Fox Indian War
    1832 – Black Hawk War
    1833 – Cherokee Indian War
    1834 – Cherokee Indian War, Pawnee Indian Territory Campaign
    1835 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War
    1836 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War, Missouri-Iowa Border War
    1837 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Second Creek War, Osage Indian War, Buckshot War
    1838 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars, Buckshot War, Heatherly Indian War
    1839 – Cherokee Indian War, Seminole Wars
    1840 – Seminole Wars, U.S. naval forces invade Fiji Islands
    1841 – Seminole Wars, U.S. naval forces invade McKean Island, Gilbert Islands, and Samoa
    1842 – Seminole Wars
    1843 – U.S. forces clash with Chinese, U.S. troops invade African coast
    1844 – Texas-Indian Wars
    1845 – Texas-Indian Wars
    1846 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars
    1847 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars
    1848 – Mexican-American War, Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War
    1849 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians
    1850 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, California Indian Wars, Pitt River Expedition
    1851 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, California Indian Wars
    1852 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, California Indian Wars
    1853 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Yuma War, Utah Indian Wars, Walker War, California Indian Wars
    1854 – Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians
    1855 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Cayuse War, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Yakima War, Winnas Expedition, Klickitat War, Puget Sound War, Rogue River Wars, U.S. forces invade Fiji Islands and Uruguay
    1856 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Puget Sound War, Rogue River Wars, Tintic War
    1857 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Utah War, Conflict in Nicaragua
    1858 – Seminole Wars, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Mohave War, California Indian Wars, Spokane-Coeur d’Alene-Paloos War, Utah War, U.S. forces invade Fiji Islands and Uruguay
    1859 Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, California Indian Wars, Pecos Expedition, Antelope Hills Expedition, Bear River Expedition, John Brown’s raid, U.S. forces launch attack against Paraguay, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1860 – Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Paiute War, Kiowa-Comanche War
    1861 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign
    1862 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Dakota War of 1862,
    1863 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Southwest Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Colorado War, Goshute War
    1864 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Cheyenne Campaign, Colorado War, Snake War
    1865 – American Civil War, Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Colorado War, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War
    1866 – Texas-Indian Wars, Navajo Wars, Apache Wars, California Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Franklin County War, U.S. invades Mexico, Conflict with China
    1867 – Texas-Indian Wars, Long Walk of the Navajo, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War, U.S. troops occupy Nicaragua and attack Taiwan
    1868 – Texas-Indian Wars, Long Walk of the Navajo, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Snake War, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Red Cloud’s War, Comanche Wars, Battle of Washita River, Franklin County War
    1869 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War
    1870 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War
    1871 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Franklin County War, Kingsley Cave Massacre, U.S. forces invade Korea
    1872 – Texas-Indian Wars, Apache Wars, Utah’s Black Hawk War, Comanche Wars, Modoc War, Franklin County War
    1873 – Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Modoc War, Apache Wars, Cypress Hills Massacre, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1874 – Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Red River War, Mason County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1875 – Conflict in Mexico, Texas-Indian Wars, Comanche Wars, Eastern Nevada, Mason County War, Colfax County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1876 – Texas-Indian Wars, Black Hills War, Mason County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1877 – Texas-Indian Wars, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Black Hills War, Nez Perce War, Mason County War, Lincoln County War, San Elizario Salt War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1878 – Paiute Indian conflict, Bannock War, Cheyenne War, Lincoln County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1879 – Cheyenne War, Sheepeater Indian War, White River War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1880 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1881 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1882 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1883 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1884 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1885 – Apache Wars, Eastern Nevada Expedition, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1886 – Apache Wars, Pleasant Valley War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1887 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1888 – U.S. show of force against Haiti, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1889 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1890 – Sioux Indian War, Skirmish between 1st Cavalry and Indians, Ghost Dance War, Wounded Knee, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1891 – Sioux Indian War, Ghost Dance War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1892 – Johnson County War, U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1893 – U.S. forces invade Mexico and Hawaii
    1894 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1895 – U.S. forces invade Mexico, Bannock Indian Disturbances
    1896 – U.S. forces invade Mexico
    1897 – No major war
    1898 – Spanish-American War, Battle of Leech Lake, Chippewa Indian Disturbances
    1899 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1900 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1901 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1902 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1903 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1904 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1905 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1906 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1907 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1908 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1909 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1910 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1911 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1912 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars
    1913 – Philippine-American War, Banana Wars, New Mexico Navajo War
    1914 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico
    1915 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico, Colorado Paiute War
    1916 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico
    1917 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S. invades Mexico
    1918 – Banana Wars, World War I, U.S invades Mexico
    1919 – Banana Wars, U.S. invades Mexico
    1920 – Banana Wars
    1921 – Banana Wars
    1922 – Banana Wars
    1923 – Banana Wars, Posey War
    1924 – Banana Wars
    1925 – Banana Wars
    1926 – Banana Wars
    1927 – Banana Wars
    1928 – Banana Wars
    1930 – Banana Wars
    1931 – Banana Wars
    1932 – Banana Wars
    1933 – Banana Wars
    1934 – Banana Wars
    1935 – No major war
    1936 – No major war
    1937 – No major war
    1938 – No major war
    1939 – No major war
    1940 – No major war
    1941 – World War II
    1942 – World War II
    1943 – Wold War II
    1944 – World War II
    1945 – World War II
    1946 – Cold War (U.S. occupies the Philippines and South Korea)
    1947 – Cold War (U.S. occupies South Korea, U.S. forces land in Greece to fight Communists)
    1948 – Cold War (U.S. forces aid Chinese Nationalist Party against Communists)
    1949 – Cold War (U.S. forces aid Chinese Nationalist Party against Communists)
    1950 – Korean War, Jayuga Uprising
    1951 – Korean War
    1952 – Korean War
    1953 – Korean War
    1954 – Covert War in Guatemala
    1955 – Vietnam War
    1956 – Vietnam War
    1957 – Vietnam War
    1958 – Vietnam War
    1959 – Vietnam War, Conflict in Haiti
    1960 – Vietnam War
    1961 – Vietnam War
    1962 – Vietnam War, Cold War (Cuban Missile Crisis; U.S. marines fight Communists in Thailand)
    1963 – Vietnam War
    1964 – Vietnam War
    1965 – Vietnam War, U.S. occupation of Dominican Republic
    1966 – Vietnam War, U.S. occupation of Dominican Republic
    1967 – Vietnam War
    1968 – Vietnam War
    1969 – Vietnam War
    1970 – Vietnam War
    1971 – Vietnam War
    1972 – Vietnam War
    1973 – Vietnam War, U.S. aids Israel in Yom Kippur War
    1974 – Vietnam War
    1975 – Vietnam War
    1976 – No major war
    1977 – No major war
    1978 – No major war
    1979 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan)
    1980 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan)
    1981 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), First Gulf of Sidra Incident
    1982 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Lebanon
    1983 – Cold War (Invasion of Grenada, CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Lebanon
    1984 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua), Conflict in Persian Gulf
    1985 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua)
    1986 – Cold War (CIA proxy war in Afghanistan and Nicaragua)
    1987 – Conflict in Persian Gulf
    1988 – Conflict in Persian Gulf, U.S. occupation of Panama
    1989 – Second Gulf of Sidra Incident, U.S. occupation of Panama, Conflict in Philippines
    1990 – First Gulf War, U.S. occupation of Panama
    1991 – First Gulf War
    1992 – Conflict in Iraq
    1993 – Conflict in Iraq
    1994 – Conflict in Iraq, U.S. invades Haiti
    1995 – Conflict in Iraq, U.S. invades Haiti, NATO bombing of Bosnia and Herzegovina
    1996 – Conflict in Iraq
    1997 – No major war
    1998 – Bombing of Iraq, Missile strikes against Afghanistan and Sudan
    1999 – Kosovo War
    2000 – No major war
    2001 – War on Terror in Afghanistan
    2002 – War on Terror in Afghanistan and Yemen
    2003 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, and Iraq
    2004 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
    2005 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
    2006 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
    2007 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen
    2008 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
    2009 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
    2010 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Yemen
    2011 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen; Conflict in Libya (Libyan Civil War)
    2012 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen
    2013 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen
    2014 – War on Terror in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria and Yemen; Civil War in Ukraine
    2015 – War on Terror in Somalia, Somalia, Syria and Yemen; Civil War in Ukraine
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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:07 pm

    9/4/2018
    My personal opinion is that if you voted for Trump, you should be first to volunteer for the coming war.



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    Re: The road to war

    Post  Carol on Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:34 pm

    Well Bob. The same could be said of a vote for Hillary as well. Trump is for world peace and those who understand him realize he tends to put on a show while working for peace in the background like he did with N.Korea. The only real war occurring right now is the patriots against the traitorous deep state. 50,000 sealed indictments now. That's a lot of people going to jail in the next 12 months. It will take years to prosecute all of these pedophiles, drug runners, traitors and gang members.



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    X22Report - Infiltration Runs Deep, Operation Counter Clowns, Congress Is In Session[s] - Episode 1655b

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    The MSM continues to distract from the real issue, FISA abuse and spying on American citizens. Wikileaks associate has disappeared. Rockets rain down on Libya. US getting ready to remove the deep state bases in Syria, false flag coming soon. Q drops more breadcrumbs, the CIA infiltration runs deep, congress is back in session and Sessions is ready to prosecute. Operation Specialist on a mission to stop an event, Q warns that an event might be on the horizon.


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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:35 am

    Maybe we will avoid a war and that will be a good thing for the planet and humanity. I was not meaning to be offensive. I will say that....having seen the insanity of war, I am not a fan. I am sorry that I do not have very much confidence in Mr. Trump as so many of you have. There were a number of good candidates in the GOP runoff for the election. I even voted in the Republican primary in hopes that it would help....but to no avail.
    It's been a good thing to see the offending pedophiles in the Catholic church being brought to justice. Maybe the deep state is being brought to justice as well. Let's hope that Mr. Trump has Mother Earth and the people who depend on her held close to his heart in the months to come.
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    Re: The road to war

    Post  Vidya Moksha on Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:29 am

    Surely, surely, even if you ignore everything that Q has posted, Trump was the only option at the last election. Clinton would have started a war immediately, didnt she set up Russia with her Uranium plotting? I do count my blessings that I dont live in the USA but from the outside looking in, I did issue a huge sigh of relief when she wasnt elected president. Trump was by far the better option for the world.. which is saying a lot, I mean... trump? wtf, Im no fan, but much relieved it wasnt Hillary.

    And if you believe Q, and even half of it comes to pass, then he will go down as a great president, whatever you think of the crass man that he is.
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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:28 am

    No I do not think that Clinton would have started a war.  I think she did an excellent job as Secretary of State with her record to prove it. Between the two candidates, Clinton seemed more qualified.  That said... there are Trump supporters who will follow him and believe that he is some kind of savior to the world.  I do not share that opinion.  If ever there was fake news, it would be that.

    Bob Woodward is coming out with a new book in September.  Here is the Washington Post review of that book.  It reveals the true Trump.

    Politics
    Bob Woodward’s new book reveals a ‘nervous breakdown’ of Trump’s presidency

    President Trump and Bob Woodward discuss Woodward’s new book, “Fear,” before its publication. (The Washington Post)
    By Philip Rucker and
    Robert Costa
    September 4 at 11:08 AM
    John Dowd was convinced that President Trump would commit perjury if he talked to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. So, on Jan. 27, the president’s then-personal attorney staged a practice session to try to make his point.

    In the White House residence, Dowd peppered Trump with questions about the Russia investigation, provoking stumbles, contradictions and lies until the president eventually lost his cool.

    “This thing’s a goddamn hoax,” Trump erupted at the start of a 30-minute rant that finished with him saying, “I don’t really want to testify.”

    The dramatic and previously untold scene is recounted in “Fear,” a forthcoming book by Bob Woodward that paints a harrowing portrait of the Trump presidency, based on in-depth interviews with administration officials and other principals.

    Woodward writes that his book is drawn from hundreds of hours of interviews with firsthand participants and witnesses that were conducted on “deep background,” meaning the information could be used but he would not reveal who provided it. His account is also drawn from meeting notes, personal diaries and government documents.

    Woodward depicts Trump’s anger and paranoia about the Russia inquiry as unrelenting, at times paralyzing the West Wing for entire days. Learning of the appointment of Mueller in May 2017, Trump groused, “Everybody’s trying to get me”— part of a venting period that shellshocked aides compared to Richard Nixon’s final days as president.

    The 448-page book was obtained by The Washington Post. Woodward, an associate editor at The Post, sought an interview with Trump through several intermediaries to no avail. The president called Woodward in early August, after the manuscript had been completed, to say he wanted to participate. The president complained that it would be a “bad book,” according to an audio recording of the conversation. Woodward replied that his work would be “tough” but factual and based on his reporting.

    [Exclusive audio: Phone call between President Trump and Bob Woodward]

    The book’s title is derived from a remark that then-candidate Trump made in an interview with Woodward and Post political reporter Robert Costa in 2016. Trump said, “Real power is, I don’t even want to use the word, ‘Fear.’ ”

    A central theme of the book is the stealthy machinations used by those in Trump’s inner sanctum to try to control his impulses and prevent disasters, both for the president personally and for the nation he was elected to lead.

    Woodward describes “an administrative coup d’etat” and a “nervous breakdown” of the executive branch, with senior aides conspiring to pluck official papers from the president’s desk so he couldn’t see or sign them.

    Again and again, Woodward recounts at length how Trump’s national security team was shaken by his lack of curiosity and knowledge about world affairs and his contempt for the mainstream perspectives of military and intelligence leaders.

    At a National Security Council meeting on Jan. 19, Trump disregarded the significance of the massive U.S. military presence on the Korean Peninsula, including a special intelligence operation that allows the United States to detect a North Korean missile launch in seven seconds vs. 15 minutes from Alaska, according to Woodward. Trump questioned why the government was spending resources in the region at all.

    “We’re doing this in order to prevent World War III,” Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told him.

    After Trump left the meeting, Woodward recounts, “Mattis was particularly exasperated and alarmed, telling close associates that the president acted like — and had the understanding of — ‘a fifth- or sixth-grader.’ ”

    In Woodward’s telling, many top advisers were repeatedly unnerved by Trump’s actions and expressed dim views of him. “Secretaries of defense don’t always get to choose the president they work for,” Mattis told friends at one point, prompting laughter as he explained Trump’s tendency to go off on tangents about subjects such as immigration and the news media.

    Inside the White House, Woodward portrays an unsteady executive detached from the conventions of governing and prone to snapping at high-ranking staff members, whom he unsettled and belittled on a daily basis.


    Chief of Staff John F. Kelly in the Oval Office in February. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
    White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly frequently lost his temper and told colleagues that he thought the president was “unhinged,” Woodward writes. In one small group meeting, Kelly said of Trump: “He’s an idiot. It’s pointless to try to convince him of anything. He’s gone off the rails. We’re in Crazytown. I don’t even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I’ve ever had.”

    Reince Priebus, Kelly’s predecessor, fretted that he could do little to constrain Trump from sparking chaos. Woodward writes that Priebus dubbed the presidential bedroom, where Trump obsessively watched cable news and tweeted, “the devil’s workshop” and said early mornings and Sunday evenings, when the president often set off tweetstorms, were “the witching hour.”

    Trump apparently had little regard for Priebus. He once instructed then-staff secretary Rob Porter to ignore Priebus, even though Porter reported to the chief of staff, saying that Priebus was “‘like a little rat. He just scurries around.’ ”

    Few in Trump’s orbit were protected from the president’s insults. He often mocked then-national security adviser H.R. McMaster behind his back, puffing up his chest and exaggerating his breathing as he impersonated the retired Army general, and once said McMaster dresses in cheap suits, “like a beer salesman.”

    Trump told Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, a wealthy investor eight years his senior: “I don’t trust you. I don’t want you doing any more negotiations. . . . You’re past your prime.”


    Attorney General Jeff Sessions at the White House in March. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
    A near-constant subject of withering presidential attacks was Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Trump told Porter that Sessions was a “traitor” for recusing himself from overseeing the Russia investigation, Woodward writes. Mocking Sessions’s accent, Trump added: “This guy is mentally retarded. He’s this dumb Southerner. . . . He couldn’t even be a one-person country lawyer down in Alabama.”

    At a dinner with Mattis and Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, among others, Trump lashed out at a vocal critic, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). He painted the former Navy pilot as cowardly, falsely suggesting he took an early release from a prisoner-of-war camp in Vietnam because of his father’s military rank and left others behind.

    Mattis swiftly corrected his boss: “No, Mr. President, I think you’ve got it reversed.” The defense secretary explained that McCain, who died Aug. 25, had in fact turned down early release and was brutally tortured during his five years at the “Hanoi Hilton.”

    “Oh, okay,” Trump replied, according to Woodward’s account.

    With Trump’s rage and defiance impossible to contain, Cabinet members and other senior officials learned to act discreetly. Woodward describes an alliance among Trump’s traditionalists — including Mattis and Gary Cohn, the president’s former top economic adviser — to stymie what they considered dangerous acts.

    “It felt like we were walking along the edge of the cliff perpetually,” Porter is quoted as saying. “Other times, we would fall over the edge, and an action would be taken.”

    After Syrian President Bashar al-Assad launched a chemical attack on civilians in April 2017, Trump called Mattis and said he wanted to assassinate the dictator. “Let’s Xxxxxxxx kill him! Let’s go in. Let’s kill the Xxxxxxxx lot of them,” Trump said, according to Woodward.

    Mattis told the president that he would get right on it. But after hanging up the phone, he told a senior aide: “We’re not going to do any of that. We’re going to be much more measured.” The national security team developed options for the more conventional airstrike that Trump ultimately ordered.


    Then-White House chief economic adviser Gary Cohn in September 2017. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
    Cohn, a Wall Street veteran, tried to tamp down Trump’s strident nationalism regarding trade. According to Woodward, Cohn “stole a letter off Trump’s desk” that the president was intending to sign to formally withdraw the United States from a trade agreement with South Korea. Cohn later told an associate that he removed the letter to protect national security and that Trump did not notice that it was missing.

    Cohn made a similar play to prevent Trump from pulling the United States out of the North American Free Trade Agreement, something the president has long threatened to do. In spring 2017, Trump was eager to withdraw from NAFTA and told Porter: “Why aren’t we getting this done? Do your job. It’s tap, tap, tap. You’re just tapping me along. I want to do this.”

    Under orders from the president, Porter drafted a notification letter withdrawing from NAFTA. But he and other advisers worried that it could trigger an economic and foreign relations crisis. So Porter consulted Cohn, who told him, according to Woodward: “I can stop this. I’ll just take the paper off his desk.”

    Despite repeated threats by Trump, the United States has remained in both pacts. The administration continues to negotiate new terms with South Korea as well as with its NAFTA partners, Canada and Mexico.

    Cohn came to regard the president as “a professional liar” and threatened to resign in August 2017 over Trump’s handling of a deadly white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville. Cohn, who is Jewish, was especially shaken when one of his daughters found a swastika on her college dorm room.

    Trump was sharply criticized for initially saying that “both sides” were to blame. At the urging of advisers, he then condemned white supremacists and neo-Nazis but almost immediately told aides, “That was the biggest Xxxxxxxx mistake I’ve made” and the “worst speech I’ve ever given,” according to Woodward’s account.

    When Cohn met with Trump to deliver his resignation letter after Charlottesville, the president told him, “This is treason,” and persuaded his economic adviser to stay on. Kelly then confided to Cohn that he shared Cohn’s horror at Trump’s handling of the tragedy — and shared Cohn’s fury with Trump.

    “I would have taken that resignation letter and shoved it up his ass six different times,” Kelly told Cohn, according to Woodward. Kelly himself has threatened to quit several times but has not done so.

    Woodward illustrates how the dread in Trump’s orbit became all-encompassing over the course of Trump’s first year in office, leaving some staff members and Cabinet members confounded by the president’s lack of understanding about how government functions and his inability and unwillingness to learn.

    At one point, Porter, who departed in February amid domestic abuse allegations, is quoted as saying, “This was no longer a presidency. This is no longer a White House. This is a man being who he is.”

    Such moments of panic are a routine feature but not the thrust of Woodward’s book, which mostly focuses on substantive decisions and internal disagreements, including tensions with North Korea as well as the future of U.S. policy in Afghanistan.

    Woodward recounts repeated episodes of anxiety inside the government over Trump’s handling of the North Korean nuclear threat. One month into his presidency, Trump asked Dunford for a plan for a preemptive military strike on North Korea, which rattled the combat veteran.

    In the fall of 2017, as Trump intensified a war of words with Kim Jong Un, nicknaming North Korea’s dictator “Little Rocket Man” in a speech at the United Nations, aides worried the president might be provoking Kim. But, Woodward writes, Trump told Porter that he saw the situation as a contest of wills: “This is all about leader versus leader. Man versus man. Me versus Kim.”

    The book also details Trump’s impatience with the war in Afghanistan, which had become the United States’ longest conflict. At a July 2017 National Security Council meeting, Trump dressed down his generals and other advisers for 25 minutes, complaining that the United States was losing, according to Woodward.

    “The soldiers on the ground could run things much better than you,” Trump told them. “They could do a much better job. I don’t know what the hell we’re doing.” He went on to ask: “How many more deaths? How many more lost limbs? How much longer are we going to be there?”

    The president’s family members, while sometimes touted as his key advisers by other Trump chroniclers, are minor players in Woodward’s account, popping up occasionally in the West Wing and vexing adversaries.


    Ivanka Trump and her husband, White House senior adviser Jared Kushner in March. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

    White House senior adviser Stephen K. Bannon, second from left, national security adviser H.R. McMaster and Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, right, in 2017. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
    Woodward recounts an expletive-laden altercation between Ivanka Trump, the president’s eldest daughter and senior adviser, and Stephen K. Bannon, then the chief White House strategist.

    “You’re a goddamn staffer!” Bannon screamed at her, telling her that she had to work through Priebus like other aides. “You walk around this place and act like you’re in charge, and you’re not. You’re on staff!”

    Ivanka Trump, who had special access to the president and worked around Priebus, replied: “I’m not a staffer! I’ll never be a staffer. I’m the first daughter.”

    Such tensions boiled among many of Trump’s core advisers. Priebus is quoted as describing Trump officials not as rivals but as “natural predators.”

    “When you put a snake and a rat and a falcon and a rabbit and a shark and a seal in a zoo without walls, things start getting nasty and bloody,” Priebus says.

    Hovering over the White House was Mueller’s inquiry, which deeply embarrassed the president. Woodward describes Trump calling his Egyptian counterpart to secure the release of an imprisoned charity worker and President Abdel Fatah al-Sissi saying: “Donald, I’m worried about this investigation. Are you going to be around?”

    Trump relayed the conversation to Dowd and said it was “like a kick in the nuts,” according to Woodward.

    The book vividly recounts the ongoing debate between Trump and his attorneys about whether the president would sit for an interview with Mueller. On March 5, Dowd and Trump attorney Jay Sekulow met in Mueller’s office with the special counsel and his deputy, James Quarles, where Dowd and Sekulow reenacted Trump’s January practice session.


    Woodward’s book recounts the debate between Trump and his lawyers, including John Dowd, regarding whether the president will sit for an interview with special counsel Robert. S. Mueller III. (Richard Drew/AP)
    Dowd then explained to Mueller and Quarles why he was trying to keep the president from testifying: “I’m not going to sit there and let him look like an idiot. And you publish that transcript, because everything leaks in Washington, and the guys overseas are going to say, ‘I told you he was an idiot. I told you he was a goddamn dumbbell. What are we dealing with this idiot for?’ ”

    “John, I understand,” Mueller replied, according to Woodward.

    Later that month, Dowd told Trump: “Don’t testify. It’s either that or an orange jumpsuit.”

    But Trump, concerned about the optics of a president refusing to testify and convinced that he could handle Mueller’s questions, had by then decided otherwise.

    “I’ll be a real good witness,” Trump told Dowd, according to Woodward.

    “You are not a good witness,” Dowd replied. “Mr. President, I’m afraid I just can’t help you.”

    The next morning, Dowd resigned.
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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:42 pm

    9/10/2018
    Neocons. Remember that word? It is one of the think tank groups that figured out how to control America. Watch this and see if you agree.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=605G8FMeO6Y
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    Re: The road to war

    Post  Carol on Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:32 am

    Bob, in 2004 we disconnected from the rogue CIA Mockingbird MSM, TV, newspapers and controlled radio programs. All out news is from multiple news sources (international), actual documents, government reports, whistle blowers military insiders and those who were not afraid to step forward and share the truth about what is going on behind the Wizard of Oz (the Satanic illuminati cabal). Having worked in the field of violence and abuse, my area of expertise back in the 80's I can share that Satanic influence, abuse, human sex trafficking, child abduction, pedophilia, torture and murder, including canabilism occurs on a regular basis throughout the world and HRC was/is in the middle of it all. When I discovered who the high level Satanist were in the San Francisco Bay Area and beyond, it scared the bejesus out of me. I was also a family counselor and heard first hand stories of this type of abuse. One cannot even begin to imagine how throughly horrible, disgusting, sickening it was that these Satanists did to innocent children. The sexual abuse, torture and murder was rampant. I also trained professions (law enforcement, medical community, social services. educators/teachers and general public) in the recognition of abuse and what to do about it. I can also add there there is no such thing as a cure for a pedophile and they are known to sexually abuse 200-500 children in their life time. When I share that HRC is a child sex abuser this is also based on direct evidence from actual victims and recorded videos also found on Anthony Wiener's laptop. If you think HRC is your cup of tea.. I'm sorry. Because I think she is one of the most vile individuals who is still living on the planet. She is a traitor and was directly involved in child human trafficking. She is reportedly a Satanist and wears jewelry that indicates as such. The facts are irrefutable and many who have gone after her, who were ready to testify against her, tends to end up dead. This also includes people who worked for our government, who died as a result of her selling US intel to China and other foreign countries.

    Since I refuse to believe anything on CNN, PBS, ABC, NBC and most printed media the only recourse was to go to original sources for information and find out the truth from them first hand or within their books or reports. This is also to say I was privy to reading actual word-for-word interviews from many of these high up military insiders. So my world view has not been shaped my MSM and is instead based on actual facts as they are revealed. I share less then 1% of the total sum of what I know about. There's just too much data and it's too overwhelming for the average person to take in. Since I've had actual conversations with numerous people who were both abductees and contactee there is that info also. Many of these people have written books but the best parts of their personal experiences were shared over lunch with them one-on-one.

    There is a lot of very scary stuff going on and there is a lot of good stuff going on. This involves a huge spiritual battle as well as this fight is also multi-dimensional and even involves, yes, time travelers from the future who are here on the planet now assisting. My friend, personally met one and shared with me what transpired.

    The US patriots and good ETs are stepping forward to take out the cable and re-establish harmony on this planet. Keep in mind that if Trump is assassinated, that the military patriots will step in and take over the government from the traitors that exist within. Marshal law would be a given and HRC along with Obama and crew get a one way ticket to GITMO along with a personal military tribunal.

    So, irrespective of the intense negativity that the Fake news puts out daily in the MSM, I tend to remain optimistic. IMPO, the real threat to humanity is AI, earth changes brought about by the solar minimum, quakes, intense weather changes, Nibiru, along with some type of future biological disease. I'd still put AI at the top of the list as Col Corso said that he personally saw a chip taken from the brain of a ET clones back in 1947 during the Roswell incident. You may want to read his book Conversations with Colonel Corso available at Amazon. AI chip in human is dangerous on multiple levels. Transhumanism is exceptionally dangerous to the human race.

    Corso also shared that the the US military has had time travel since the 40's. In fact Bush Sr. was involved in the program in the 60's which explains a lot.

    So my friend, I'm more concerned about self-sufficieny given the upcoming financial take down and restructuring along with a very cold winter than I am with any supposed threat of war. These days war threats are more smoke and mirrors and used as a diversion from what is going on behind the scenes, a take down of the globalist war mongers.

    Being a person of faith, I know that we are spiritual beings on a human journey to learn and experience much to help us become compassionate. Humanity has a long way to go but as Simon Parks has expressed, we're also going to get assistance from multiple sources including a galactic energy wave that will help raise consciousness. Meanwhile, we'll enjoy the beauty the world has to offer and drink in the energy from our forest environment.


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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:42 pm

    9/14/2018
    The goal of the Neocons is continuous war.  However, the idea was not original and goes back many years before that.  This is not mainstream news so I hope that all will find this educational and rewarding.             Inviisiblehistory.com was the web site noted for more information



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO3OvtcZPo8
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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:37 pm

    9/23/2018
    If I were to ask what are you afraid of, some of you might say snakes and others may say rats.  Most all of us are afraid of something.   I am afraid of war.  I have seen how it severely destroys countries and everyone who lives there.  On Monday Trump will increase the number of traffics on China.  So China and Russia have decided to post the following.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNWkuZHG9R4&t=169s
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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:57 am

    10/9/2018
    This video points out that the US and China are playing chicken in the South China Sea.

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    Re: The road to war

    Post  bobhardee on Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:19 pm


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