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    Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

    Post  mudra on Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:48 am

    evisnam wrote: It would be wise to understand that spirituality is something of a preference of how to interact with the Universe. Your spirituality can be whatever you want it to be, so long as you submit to basic tenets of existence.

    Respect , Forgiveness , Fortitude.


    Respect covers Judgement , Forgiveness covers Evolution , Fortitude covers Enlightenment.


    Judgement covers Possibilities,   Evolution covers Magnification,  Enlightenment covers  Infinity.  


    and something i see valuable from an impressive author,

    Seamus Heaney

    “The true and durable path into and through experience involves being true … to your own solitude, true to your own secret knowledge.”


    think on these my friend.

    These are wise words indeed. Essential ones.
    Thanks for sharing this spiritual point of view in your own unique way Evisnam.

    Love from me
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    Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:34 pm

    orthodoxymoron wrote:Thank-you for your VERY Interesting posts, evisnam!! Has this world been run by some sort of Supercomputer and Artificial-Intelligence for thousands of years?? If so, is the creator of this system alive and well, and living on Planet Earth?? If so, who might they be?? I never know how to interpret and verify this sort of information. That goes for history-books, the Bible, religious and philosophical writers and speakers, et al. I envy those who live in the now, and concern themselves primarily with friends, family, school, sports, work, entertainment, etc. I've tried to dig-deeper regarding antiquity, the otherworldly, and how things REALLY Work in the world, solar-system, and universe, and I've paid a VERY High Price for doing so, with nothing to show for it, and a lot of shunning and shameful treatment. I hesitate to pull others into my quest, and I sometimes envy those who simply study the way things really are, and then profit from the madness, without attempting to make things better. People seem to want what they want, and they don't seem to want to learn about inconvenient-truth. This website should have a HUGE amount of participating-members and lurking-viewers, but notice the pathetic-numbers. This world seems to be run as a Big-Business where the Bottom-Line is the Bottom-Line. Sorry, I'm rambling, but this might be my last chance to communicate my feelings and perceptions with you. We will miss you. Namaste and Godspeed.
    evisnam wrote:Questions by Orthodoxymoron :

    Has this world been run by some sort of Supercomputer and Artificial-Intelligence for thousands of years??


    It would be best to adopt the theory that we , as in the inhabitants of sol 3 , are the results of experimentation on a large scale and have been for millions of years.  I ask you a question , In the Ra Material did you notice each time Ra was asked a question it responded with " I Am Ra " before each answer ?

    What sort of an entity would do that ?  AN OI , Organic Intelligent Being or in earth terms Supercomputer. So the answer is yes and no , Yes it has been influenced in parts by an OI but it has not been run by one. There is not one single entity of intelligent origins that would tout its self Ruler of All.

    The Ra OI was in fact running the genetic alterations of the experiment and this was a grand scale experiment in terms of this planet only. In relation to the universe it is a tiny little blip.

    If so, is the creator of this system alive and well, and living on Planet Earth??

    Refer answers above.

    If so, who might they be??

    the Alpha Draconis in conjunction with several other assistants. I have had 2 or 3 encounters with the Alpha Draconis and while they have a very adamantine energy I did not get the feeling they were hostile per se, mind you i was not in judgement in their presence and that counts for much.

    NB:  Please note the true names of these entities or factions are actually much harder to pronounce or even impossible for me to , so i refer to earth terms so we can all relate.

    PS : for you Orthodoxymoron i want to extend some information i think you may find useful.   We have not understood the machination of our solar system , how it works , how its energised and how it interacts, We as in most earth humans. It would be wise to understand that spirituality is something of a preference of how to interact with the Universe. Your spirituality can be whatever you want it to be, so long as you submit to basic tenets of existence.

    Respect , Forgiveness , Fortitude.

    Respect covers Judgement , Forgiveness covers Evolution , Fortitude covers Enlightenment.

    Judgement covers Possibilities,   Evolution covers Magnification,  Enlightenment covers  Infinity.  

    and something i see valuable from an impressive author,

    Seamus Heaney

    “The true and durable path into and through experience involves being true … to your own solitude, true to your own secret knowledge.”

    think on these my friend.
    Thank-you evisnam. I'm including this information in a thread I've been working on, which seems to be a Mini-Matrix. Perhaps someday a forest will emerge from the accumulation of trees. Namaste and Godspeed.
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    Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

    Post  NANUXII on Thu May 31, 2018 9:35 pm

    I have a question for Evisnam



    The theory of Heaven and Hell

    Heaven being a place we go to after we die

    Hell a place we go to if we fail


    We are in a binary system.  


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_number


    meaning we are dictated by numbers.  

    The primary language of the Orion system is Math

    The primary manufacturing medium of the Orion system is stone

    The outcome of the two is structure


    result   =    A Structured Environment

    Heaven : Ruled by god

    Hell : Ruled by Satan

    Satan's assistant is Lucifer

    God's assistant is nature


    If the predominant nature of our planet is satanic , ruled by the luciferian


    where do you think we are right now  ?






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    Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

    Post  evisnam on Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:26 pm

    Nanuxi , Your question here : where do you think we are right now ?


    In terms of how you have posed your question , you do not leave much room for an answer. It makes it all too obvious however ill answer this question from a different perspective.


    Lucifer , who is referred to as Satan , the Devil etc etc is all the same person , just differing aspects of its persona.


    Lucifer was not cast down , Lucifer being our god's conglomerate favorite and most dedicated sun was given the task to punish those who are evil.

    one of Lucifer's tasks include , but not limited to , Creating temptation. We are given free choice to either take the pleasure of sin or to reject it. In the action of taking the pleasure of the sin you are rewarded with a pleasure response. Which can feed into your desire for more. This place is perfect for testing souls and yes its all one big test.

    If you fail your test , you come back for another life in what theologians call " hell " ( in the manual " Bible " which is partially correct ) and you repeat the tasks and temptations till you reach a place of self realisation that what you do on some level affects others negatively. Yes there is not much wiggle room but please realise we are here because at some stage we have broken covenants to others and our selves.

    Here we engage in giving power to false idols. A trap that is diabolical but was it ever a doubt that Lucifer's intelligence is diabolical ? Even those who believe they are in service to Lucifer often get it totally wrong. As they indulge in what they believe is in service is actually to their own determent.

    I will elaborate on this later , for now i must take a break.
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    Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

    Post  Carol on Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:18 am

    Woah.. in part I did know this and in part had not thought of it quite in those terms expressed in your post. Recently I've been observing what has been going on in multiple arenas and am somewhat disgusted with watching egos running amuck attacking others in various ways. And of course there is the whole child enslavement, trafficking and murder of children for their organs. This is just the tip of the ice berg. It would see that Satan has more followers then Christ these days with clashes between the two coming to the forefront. But what I've also noticed in myself is the complete lack of interest in anything coming out of Hollywood, including all of the MSM news.. I can't even watch it on the net being how boring and/or toxic it's become. I'm also experiencing an increase sensitivity to certain reading material or anything that has to do with violence among people. It seems that the toxic level of human / spiritual negative energy is amping up. Even the volcano here on the island appears to be manifesting it's own hell on earth.

    It will be a relief to head back to the woods back with the cougars, bears and skunks.. all true by the way and currently near-by. I've often thought that there are lovely eddies tucked away about here and there for for peace loving people to migrate to and enjoy. Also ironically, 4 close family and friends are traveling this weekend to do just that - relocate away from toxic environments, so perhaps this is a trend.

    Now heres the other interesting aspect.. the new life style being sought is a very simple, one close to nature and without external trappings. Do you suppose the temptations of ego have been set aside with these folks? There's something to be said for a happy recluse.


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    Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

    Post  orthodoxymoron on Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:32 am

    NANUXII wrote:I have a question for Evisnam

    The theory of Heaven and Hell

    Heaven being a place we go to after we die

    Hell a place we go to if we fail

    We are in a binary system.  

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_number

    meaning we are dictated by numbers.  

    The primary language of the Orion system is Math

    The primary manufacturing medium of the Orion system is stone

    The outcome of the two is structure

    result   =    A Structured Environment

    Heaven : Ruled by god

    Hell : Ruled by Satan

    Satan's assistant is Lucifer

    God's assistant is nature

    If the predominant nature of our planet is satanic , ruled by the luciferian

    where do you think we are right now  ?

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    evisnam wrote:Nanuxi , Your question here :   where do you think we are right now  ?

    In terms of how you have posed your question , you do not leave much room for an answer. It makes it all too obvious however ill answer this question from a different perspective.

    Lucifer , who is referred to as Satan , the Devil etc etc is all the same person , just differing aspects of its persona.

    Lucifer was not cast down , Lucifer being our god's conglomerate favorite and most dedicated sun was given the task to punish those who are evil.

    one of Lucifer's tasks include , but not limited to , Creating temptation. We are given free choice to either take the pleasure of sin or to reject it. In the action of taking the pleasure of the sin you are rewarded with a pleasure response. Which can feed into your desire for more. This place is perfect for testing souls and yes its all one big test.

    If you fail your test , you come back for another life in what theologians call " hell " ( in the manual " Bible " which is partially correct ) and you repeat the tasks and temptations till you reach a place of self realisation that what you do on some level affects others negatively. Yes there is not much wiggle room but please realise we are here because at some stage we have broken covenants to others and our selves.

    Here we engage in giving power to false idols. A trap that is diabolical but was it ever a doubt that Lucifer's intelligence is diabolical ?    Even those who believe they are in service to Lucifer often get it totally wrong. As they indulge in what they believe is in service is actually to their own determent.

    I will elaborate on this later , for now i must take a break.
    Carol wrote:Woah.. in part I did know this and in part had not thought of it quite in those terms expressed in your post. Recently I've been observing what has been going on in multiple arenas and am somewhat disgusted with watching egos running amuck attacking others in various ways. And of course there is the whole child enslavement, trafficking and murder of children for their organs. This is just the tip of the ice berg. It would see that Satan has more followers then Christ these days with clashes between the two coming to the forefront. But what I've also noticed in myself is the complete lack of interest in anything coming out of Hollywood, including all of the MSM news.. I can't even watch it on the net being how boring and/or toxic it's become. I'm also experiencing an increase sensitivity to certain reading material or anything that has to do with violence among people. It seems that the toxic level of human / spiritual negative energy is amping up. Even the volcano here on the island appears to be manifesting it's own hell on earth.

    It will be a relief to head back to the woods back with the cougars, bears and skunks.. all true by the way and currently near-by. I've often thought that there are lovely eddies tucked away about here and there for for peace loving people to migrate to and enjoy. Also ironically, 4 close family and friends are traveling this weekend to do just that - relocate away from toxic environments, so perhaps this is a trend.

    Now heres the other interesting aspect.. the new life style being sought is a very simple, one close to nature and without external trappings. Do you suppose the temptations of ego have been set aside with these folks?  There's something to be said for a happy recluse.
    orthodoxymoron wrote:It seems as if the souls in this soul-system or solar-system are not under the direct-guidance of the Creator, but rather existing under a system which is somewhat rogue and reprehensible. I continue to suspect that we know very-little about Pre-Eden Wars in Heaven and Earth, which might've resulted in Adam and Eve being anything but innocent, right from the beginning (or before the beginning). I've been passively considering various possibilities, and it seems as if the Matrix is mad at me for doing so. Perhaps we're not supposed to know too-much or get too-uppity. Perhaps we're supposed to wallow in sin and misery for a predetermined period, and then be shown how bad we were for thousands of years, as a galactic-lesson, such that Rebellion Against God NEVER Happens Again (or something to that effect). I feel increasingly miserable, as if the brain-screws are being tightened by the Devil's-Disciples to reign me in (or something to that effect). God and Responsibility Relative to Solar System Governance is an interesting topic to review (for those who are capable of doing so). Unfortunately, I nearly fall-over when I get out of bed in the morning, and my vision sometimes goes screwy. I think this might have everything to do with picking on the witches, and second-guessing life, the universe, and everything.

    There's a private-war I need to fight, and I don't think it's going to end well. Truth and honesty relative to ethics and law are SO Overrated. What was the Pre-Eden Perfect Law of the Lord Throughout the Universe?? How do we REALLY know anything significant about Ancient-History and Life Throughout the Universe?? What do we REALLY have by way of comparison to judge the Human-Experiment?? How does one Question-Authority without being Insubordinately-Rebellious?? Why does Humanity require a Devil or Lucifer to keep Hell burning hot?? Don't we screw each-other (in more ways than one) without any assistance from the Devil and His and/or Her Angels?? I'm tired, disillusioned, and rambling. You don't have to answer these questions. They might mostly be unanswerable. A Mulholland Drive Space-Cowboy Individual of Interest once told me "Mystery is a Good-Thing." Regarding Satan, consider Blanche Barton and the Church of Satan. There was an interesting Art Bell interview, with a mystery-caller from Indio. Later, another individual 'Roman' (from Indio) sent a message to Art regarding that 'Barton Interview'. There's something about San Bernardino, Palm Springs, Merlin's Cave, and Indio, but I don't want to go there. Not tonight.


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    Re: The First Fire , a story of EVISNAM

    Post  evisnam on Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:52 am

    thank you for all your responses ,  I will address the insights and questions in time.


    To continue my train of thought from my previous post, what i find most interesting in all the mystery of this planet are the micro expressions of experience which will eventually accumulate to a macro shift.

    I feel now more than ever that respect towards all is paramount and to remove the barriers of conflict and opposition to try and understand why we do what we do.

    I get the very strong feeling that select few of the ones who wield power here on earth have come to a realisation that if we shift into higher consciousnesses and eventually become inducted to the universal family , their reign will end and then have to return to their place and repay their karmic debt.

    think of this this planet as an energy , no walls , rocks , oceans or fields.. just energy ...  what sort of energy do you think it would emanate ?  

    it would be mathematically proportional to the emotional reactions caused by pleasure or pain.

    Is it any wonder why War is such a booming economy ?      

    the negative emotional energy anchors us to this plane of existence.  What does the opposite do   ?   it gives you fleeting glimpses of a better energy matrix which in turn can make some lose faith and others feel inspiration. In order to free ourselves of the burden we have self imposed we must go through the fire and when you do ye shall be loosed.

    Fire in this instance is a metaphor for Challenges.  Lucifer is Fire

    Go through them and be re born.  

    the Hidden Hand , an impoirtant dialogue to read if you wish to understand what we are here for.  here is an excerpt to explain what i mean.

    "  Of the thirteen base bloodlines, the Hidden Hand says that only three are indigenous to Earth. The rest have off-world origins, the so called Fallen Angels or Nephilim as described in the Book of Enoch. S/he clearly identifies where the most power is found among the thirteen bloodlines: “I want to be clear on this Bloodline issue. The ones you know, they are of earthly lineage. Yes, they have their place in the Family, but the Real Power lines, do not originate from this planet.

    Further clarifying the identity of the most powerful bloodlines, the Hidden Hand says they derive from the “group soul” or entity known as Lucifer:

    Our Creator, is the one you refer to as ‘Lucifer’, “The Light Bearer” and “Bright and Morning Star”. Our Creator is not “The Devil” as he has been spuriously portrayed in your bible. Lucifer is what you would call a “Group Soul” or “Social Memory Complex”, which has evolved to the level of the Sixth Density…. In appearance, were you to gaze upon Lucifer’s fullest expression of our Being, the appearance would be that of a Sun or a “Bright Star”. Or, when stepping down into a 3rd Density vibration, we would appear as what you may term an ‘Angel’ or ‘Light Being’.

    So while the Family is led by ten extraterrestrial bloodlines, all thirteen bloodlines see themselves as physical manifestations of Lucifer – a highly evolved spiritual being who has taken on the assignment of creating a negative polarity which gives humanity the opportunity to evolve by making better moral choices.  "



    Very important to note i would say.

    So how does this answer the question ,  " Where do you think we are right now ? "


    Well if i were to guess it would be a holographic and binary construct for the purposes of re education.    True education comes at the deepest self realisation ,  Know thy Self , Know Who you Are , contemplate what you do unto others , contemplate the selfish and negative attributes of an ego that furnishes its own hedonism.  

    A good ego is essential , a good ego always takes into consideration others within its dynamic who can benefit from its actions and often incorporates mechanisms to facilitate benefit for all concerned.


    I will take a pause for now and return with more.
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    Post  evisnam on Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:51 am



    When the original creators of our race failed in their experiment their superiors ordered them to clean up the karmic mess they created. Thousands of years passed as their plan evolved and the christ mythos was born. This is why the story of Osiris is re cycled over the ages, this is why so many common threads appear in the differing religions.

    This is why Gods only Sun was sacrificed to give us life.

    The Morning Star

    The Light Bearer

    The Fire

    Lucifer


    Is it any wonder why the early indigenous tribes were sun worshipers ?


    Do you see now the diabolical intelligence involved in our manner of evolution ? for all of those who wonder what their purpose is down here... look inside, know that no matter how far you have traveled in the wrong direction, the moment you make the realisation you can always turn it around.

    Know this also , the moment you know what you do is wrong and you keep doing it... multiplies your negative karma to return for longer and longer.

    As what some describe as an " old soul " i can tell you i have made many mistakes over my lives, we all do, its natural to make mistakes. Those who seek to improve themselves even to the detrement of their own life are considered to be closer to home.

    Those who have heard of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus is someone i am very familiar with , Hermes is a unique one to contemplate , he is one who is known to be the traverse of the good and evil. Both know him , both respect him , both know he has a role to mediate between the two , the traverser of souls from the lower to the higher.

    When i was met by the Alpha Draconis i saw they had wings , like bats wings , it later dawned on me that this may be the Dragon we speak about in our human tales. The further i contemplate everything i have experienced , the more i see how everything is so backwards, how truth is hidden in plain sight, how the stories of our true history is skewed to mislead unless you have gained wisdom.

    An excerpt from a Hermes Text :

    " “Hermes bowed his head in thankfulness to the Great Dragon who had taught him so much, and begged to hear more concerning the ultimate of the human soul. So Poimandres resumed: "At death the material body of man is returned to the elements from which it came, and the invisible divine man ascends to the source from whence he came, namely the Eighth Sphere...
    "Then, being naked of all the accumulations of the seven Rings, the soul comes to the Eighth Sphere, namely, the ring of the fixed stars. Here, freed of all illusion, it dwells in the Light and sings praises to the Father in a voice which only the pure of spirit may understand. Behold, O Hermes, there is a great mystery in the Eighth Sphere, for the Milky Way is the seed-ground of souls, and from it they drop into the Rings, and to the Milky Way they return again from the wheels of Saturn. But some cannot climb the seven-runged ladder of the Rings. So they wander in darkness below and are swept into eternity with the illusion of sense and earthiness.
    "The path to immortality is hard, and only a few find it. The rest await the Great Day when the wheels of the universe shall be stopped and the immortal sparks shall escape from the sheaths of substance. Woe unto those who wait, for they must return again, unconscious and unknowing, to the seed-ground of stars, and await a new beginning. Those who are saved by the light of the mystery which I have revealed unto you, O Hermes, and which I now bid you to establish among men, shall return again to the Father who dwelleth in the White Light, and shall deliver themselves up to the Light and shall be absorbed into the Light, and in the Light they shall become Powers in God. This is the Way of Good and is revealed only to them that have wisdom.”


    The Mystery Continues to Unravel

    Make your own conclusions

    you must


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